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Despite Biggest Spike In Job Cuts Since 2011, Jobless Claims Hover At 15-Year Lows

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Initial jobless claims rose very modestly from last week's 15-year low levels and hovers at a stunning 262k - indicating everything is as awesome as it can possibly be. Which is odd... because as Challenger-Gray notes, April saw the biggest rise in job cuts since 2011 (and the worst YoY increase for April in at least a decade). Job cuts were concentrated in the energy sector on an unprecedented scale.

 

Initial Jobless Claims are as low as they have ever been... (remember the last time they were this low, stocks crashed in the next few months)

 

But Job Cuts in April were the largest since 2011...

 

With job losses led by the Energy sector... on a scale not seen during the last oil price selloff

 

It's different this time.

 

Charts: Bloomberg

 

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Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:38 | 6068670 firewolfsblog
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SNAFU

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:42 | 6068674 SmallerGovNow2
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Bald, in-your-face, propaganda, lies, whatever you wish to call it.  Anything but the truth "you can't handle the truth"...

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:53 | 6068703 SheepDog-One
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And if you're one who knows the truth and talks about it, you're one of them 'ISIS' guys.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:59 | 6068717 El Oregonian
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"You can take this job and Covet"

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:02 | 6068722 overmedicatedun...
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robots will help the Un employed: google to the rescue, er wait:

Mock-ups of the so-called ‘crabots’ are featured in lengthy planning documents submitted to the City of Mountain View Council in Silicon Valley and seen by AJ this week.

As revealed last July, the tech firm has commissioned Thomas Heatherwick, BIG and engineers AKTII to design its extended HQ, which will house 20,000 Google staff.

The ‘crabots’ are described in the documents as a mash-up of flexible crane and robotic machine.

Much of the internal design of Google’s new HQ will depend on the success of the robots which will roam under the gigantic canopies of the sprawling site and lift and shift pre-fabricated components, furniture and services

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:18 | 6068772 BeaverCream
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I was watching that show "Top Gear" on Netflix and there was a big propaganda piece about how much mechanical equipment the Brits still produce.  The goal of the piece was to make it look like everything was awesome but they were standing inside an massive auto manufacturing (assembly) plant that had a grand total of one human workman, he was driving a hi-lo.  Everything in the plant was being done by machines and I would guess the hi-lo guy's bosses were in the conference planning on how to get rid of him soon as well.

 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:04 | 6068729 Occams_Chainsaw
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The Feds like ISIS.  If you tell the truth you are a Tea Party terrorist.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:17 | 6068769 JRobby
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Not really, if you have not worked with withholding tax for a number of months you can't file a UI claim. The big bulge of claims was exhauseted long ago.

The number not talked about is how many have dropped out of the trackable work force.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:42 | 6068676 VinceFostersGhost
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Jobless Claims Hover At 15-Year Lows

 

98 million jobless Americans look on that statement in shock.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:00 | 6068721 ebworthen
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And mad as hell.  Once you are jobless, they never ever count you again!

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:10 | 6068751 onewayticket2
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BUT ~30mm are fully capable of working and instead are receiving several thousand per month NOT to work.....UI, SNAP, Disability, etc, etc.

 

they are laughing at those working for low wages.....

 

 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:14 | 6068766 forwardho
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Having trouble with the math.

320 million Americans.

98 million are jobless.

Unemployment 5.4%?

5.4% of 320 million = 17.280000

30.7% of 320 million = 98.240000

Perhaps a decimal point was misplaced and no one caught the error.

 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:18 | 6068773 JRobby
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Retirees 120 to 130 mil and growing........

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:52 | 6068867 VinceFostersGhost
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Cut me a break, I'm a blonde, and math is hard.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:19 | 6068779 BeaverCream
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Cuz you're doing common core math wrong, the answer to the math is whatever they say it is.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:24 | 6068791 onewayticket2
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the 5.4% is of working age people.  strip out infants, retirees, 4th graders, 'disabled', etc, etc....oh, and those millions of working age who have "dropped out" of the calculation after giving up looking.

 

ps....does your 320MM include the 15MM+ illegals obama has let in...?

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:45 | 6068841 smlbizman
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15mil illegals probably isnt close.....when u here  11 mil for years they will assume you think t is 11 mil........i bet its closer to 25..40 mil...

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:55 | 6068710 TheFourthStoog-ing
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Ready for another day of gold getting smashed and stocks rising?

Me too!

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:19 | 6068775 ZH Snob
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well, by now those who lost work permanently back in '08 have fallen off the govt statiscal charts for good.   officially, they no longer exist.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:39 | 6068672 101 years and c...
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when ALL the fat has already been trimmed, you dont want to trim the meat.  its why layoffs are so "low".

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:40 | 6068673 BeaverCream
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Worst since....

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:42 | 6068678 Last of the Mid...
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Everybody knows they're not really job cuts if they don't affect jobless claims! Jeezzz where have you guys been. The recovery is really beginning to take shape now. The shape of an uncontrolled mob which is exactly the intent of our rabble rouser in cheif.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:45 | 6068682 Bill of Rights
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Congressman Louie Gohmert (R-TX) says he understands why people are cautiously suspicious.

Gohmert issued a statement yesterday regarding Jade Helm which says, in part:

Over the past few weeks, my office has been inundated with calls referring to the Jade Helm 15 military exercise scheduled to take place between July 15 and September 15, 2015. This military practice has some concerned that the U.S. Army is preparing for modern-day martial law. 

Certainly, I can understand these concerns. When leaders within the current administration believe that major threats to the country include those who support the Constitution, are military veterans, or even ‘cling to guns or religion,’ patriotic Americans have reason to be concerned. We have seen people working in this administration use their government positions to persecute people with conservative beliefs in God, country, and notions such as honor and self-reliance. Because of the contempt and antipathy for the true patriots or even Christian saints persecuted for their Christian beliefs, it is no surprise that those who have experienced or noticed such persecution are legitimately suspicious.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:53 | 6068702 VinceFostersGhost
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I'm not doing anything wrong, why should I worry about the government?

 

Now what did I do with that /sarc?

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:54 | 6068705 SoilMyselfRotten
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You could quote a sane Congressman(if it weren't an oxymoron)

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:45 | 6068688 Goldbugger
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Meanwhile 48 Million Americans collecting food stamps.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:57 | 6068708 VinceFostersGhost
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Hell yes, it's a new record!

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:46 | 6068689 TheFourthStoog-ing
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Get it through your thick heads, Zeroes, it's a mother fucking conspiracy!

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:01 | 6068723 NoDebt
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Get this through your thick head, it's a mother fucking recovery!  This is it, OK?  This is as good as it gets or is likely to get for a very long time.  So we might as well call it a recovery and start liking it.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:21 | 6068784 JRobby
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What? I just can't believe that!

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:46 | 6068690 papaswamp
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Remember kids, unemployment only works for those jobs that qualify for benefits. The 'shadow' job sector isnt counted. Begs the question, what percentage of all jobs qualify for unemployment benefits? Has that structure changed since the last recession?

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:40 | 6068820 Dollarmedes
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I'm betting this is the answer. They've rigged every other system, why not jobless claims too? Make it really hard to qualify, and then make you do a mountain of paperwork to stay on. The government is a fraud from top to bottom.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:48 | 6068694 Testiclese
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A classic "all is well" move....

Important electronic market breaks....

smash gold, lift bonds and stocks....

brilliant and comical all at same time....

GLTA

 

 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:51 | 6068698 Testiclese
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The Greatest Trade that will ever be told....

Short paper gold, long physical gold...

same play as TPTB are putting on

 

GLTA 

 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:52 | 6068699 Monty Burns
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Maybe they were so busy looting in Baltimore they forgot to claim their free shit?  

I'm just trying to be helpful here.....

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:53 | 6068701 overmedicatedun...
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more money for baltimore, every other citizen a welfare doo gooder, a cop or lawyer or judge or god forbid a politician and lastly the finance investing industry. t rowe price .we got a service economy after all...which feeds on the remaining poor..thats why we import poverty(migrants) to keep our service econ going. schools which train the kids to be happy as serfs..

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:54 | 6068706 MFL8240
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Of course, just waht was needed to knock Gold and Silver!

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 08:56 | 6068713 VinceFostersGhost
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It's a pretty simple playbook, it's just the one play.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:08 | 6068746 foxmuldar
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Dont those working in Oil Industry and were laid off eligible for unemployment benefits or is the government fudging the numbers again?

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:13 | 6068757 holdbuysell
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The schrodinger employment market in full view.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:15 | 6068767 dizzyfingers
Thu, 05/07/2015 - 09:23 | 6068786 Hal n back
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Independent Contractors

cannot file for claims, but are part of the  birth death model.

 

ie--most of the outsourced software companies are overweighted to independent contractors--so when the big companies stop doing projects,, there is no problem in telling the contractors go home and wait for a call.

 

 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 10:54 | 6069112 Jameson18
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The labor dept. seasonally adjusted 230000 jobs for the month. So make sure you factor those out.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 11:21 | 6069213 Rubbish
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The more EBTers the more trash on the ground. I grow 8-10% per year in service. Please more graffiti too, $40 a tag. A man can't live on pennies alone.

 

Gold Bitchez.....I pick up pennies

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 11:27 | 6069244 homebody
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The only number that counts is the participation rate - both official and under the table!

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 12:15 | 6069421 ajkreider
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 . . . .  and no mention of the collapse in continuing claims as well. As long as the economy is adding net jobs, and the initial claims number stays here, everyone should be happy.  Why are you not happy?

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