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Turkey, Saudis Form Alliance To Topple Syria's Assad As US Starts Training Syrian Rebels
Ever since the mysterious, unexpected bursting of ISIS on the global stage one year ago with much fanfare and even more carefully produced with just the right amount of lighting beheading video clip, we said from the very beginning that when stripped of its "made in Hollywood" YouTube clip veneer and the media's clear agenda to cast the organization as a new, more evil, more aggressive al-Qaeda, the entire rehashed sequence of events in the middle east is about one thing: removing Syria's Assad from power just so the energy infrastructure from Qatar and Saudi Arabia can traverse the territory and enter Europe, eliminating Russia's energy dominance over the continent.
Today we got the latest confirmation of this in an AP report according to which "Turkey and Saudi Arabia have converged on an aggressive new strategy to bring down Syrian President Bashar Assad."
Why take the unprecedented step of tipping their cards and revealing what the real motive behind all the constant commotion in the middle east is? Because "mutual frustration with what they consider American indecision has brought the two together in a strategic alliance that is driving recent rebel gains in northern Syria, and has helped strengthen a new coalition of anti-Assad insurgents, Turkish officials say."
According to the AP, this puts the US in a paradoxical position:
That is provoking concern in the United States, which does not want rebel groups, including the al-Qaida linked Nusra Front, uniting to topple Assad. The Obama administration worries that the revived rebel alliance could potentially put a more dangerous radical Islamist regime in Assad's place, just as the U.S. is focused on bring down the Islamic State group. A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issues, said the administration is concerned that the new alliance is helping Nusra gain territory in Syria.
Well, no, for the simple reason that Al Nusra was there in 2013 when the US nearly launched a proxy war against Russia in Syria, where just miles from shore one could find both US and Russian warships armed and ready to fire at each other.
And it certainly has nothing to do with concerns about "extremists" taking over: after all, there have been countless documented reports that CIA if not created, then certainly facilitated and funded the ascent of the Islamic State, just like it did with al-Qaeda. It would be naive to assume that said historic relations have been severed.
So where does the AP narrative go with this:
Turkish officials say the Obama administration has disengaged from Syria as it focuses on rapprochement with Iran. While the U.S. administration is focused on degrading the Islamic State group in Syria and Iraq, they say it has no coherent strategy for ending the rule of Assad, Iran's key ally in the region.
Now that too is ironic, because as we reported just yesterday, Obama's entire "strategy" behind the so-called Iran rapproachement is to provide a media-friendly way of arming Saudi Arabia. In fact, any minute now John Kerry who is currently in Riyadh, should announce the terms of the arms delivery agreement that has been ironed out between the sharehodlers of the US military-industrial complex and Saudi Arabia.
Under Turkish and Saudi patronage, the rebel advance has undermined a sense that the Assad government is winning the civil war — and demonstrated how the new alliance can yield immediate results. The pact was sealed in early March when Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan flew to Riyadh to meet Saudi's recently crowned King Salman. Relations had been tense between Erdogan and the late King Abdullah, in great part over Erdogan's support of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Turkish officials say that the U.S. has no strategy for stabilizing Syria. One Turkish official said that the CIA has even lately halted its support for anti-Assad groups in northern Iraq. U.S. trainers are now in Turkey on a train-and-equip program aimed at adding fighters to counter the Islamic State group and bolster moderate forces in Syria, but Turkish officials are skeptical that it will amount to much.
Wait, you mean to say that the CIA is involved? And, even funnier, what they are doing there is unknown to anyone... except for Turkish officials who explicitly know what the CIA is doing on any given day.
So-called experts chime in: "It's a different world now in Syria, because the Saudi pocketbook has opened and the Americans can't tell them not to do it," said Joshua Landis, the director of the Center for Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma. "It's quite clear that Salman has prioritized efforts against Iran over those against the Muslim Brotherhood."
Meanwhile, avoiding "expert" commentary, what is going on
The Turkish-Saudi agreement has led to a new joint command center in the northeastern Syrian province of Idlib. There, a coalition of groups — including Nusra and other Islamist brigades such as Ahrar al-Sham that Washington views as extremist — are progressively eroding Assad's front. The rebel coalition also includes more moderate elements of the Free Syrian Army that have received U.S. support in the past.
In other words the country that the US is about to deliver an arsenal of ultra-modern weapons and warplanes to, just so it can "defend" itself from a potentially violent Iran, the same Iran that Obama has spent the past 2 years supposedly eager to put in the western sphere of influence, is actively supporting the same terrorist organizations that the US media, if only for popular consumption, blasts each day as the terrorist bogeyman the US government must urgently protect Americans from. One wonders how many of the weapons that are about to be sent to Saudi Arabia will end up in Al Nusra and ISIS hands...
But the one piece that puts everything in its place, is one small admission that it is, indeed, all about the natural gas.
Usama Abu Zeid, a legal adviser to the Free Syrian Army, confirmed that the new coordination between Turkey and Saudi Arabia — as well as Qatar — had facilitated the rebel advance, but said that it not yet led to a new flow of arms. He said rather that the fighters had seized large caches of arms from Syrian government facilities.
Ah Qatar...the country which we revealed two years ago as the "Mystery Sponsor Of Weapons And Money To Syrian Mercenary "Rebels." The same Qatar for which only one thing matters. Recall further from our 2012 article:
Why would Qatar want to become involved in Syria where they have little invested? A map reveals that the kingdom is a geographic prisoner in a small enclave on the Persian Gulf coast.
It relies upon the export of LNG, because it is restricted by Saudi Arabia from building pipelines to distant markets. In 2009, the proposal of a pipeline to Europe through Saudi Arabia and Turkey to the Nabucco pipeline was considered, but Saudi Arabia that is angered by its smaller and much louder brother has blocked any overland expansion.
Already the largest LNG producer, Qatar will not increase the production of LNG. The market is becoming glutted with eight new facilities in Australia coming online between 2014 and 2020.
A saturated North American gas market and a far more competitive Asian market leaves only Europe. The discovery in 2009 of a new gas field near Israel, Lebanon, Cyprus, and Syria opened new possibilities to bypass the Saudi Barrier and to secure a new source of income. Pipelines are in place already in Turkey to receive the gas. Only Al-Assad is in the way.
Oh, and remember that whole part in the narrative where the US did not want to support Syrian rebel groups? Well, here is what Reuters reported moments ago.
Defense Secretary Ash Carter said on Thursday that U.S. military troops have begun training a small, company-sized group of Syrian fighters to battle Islamic State militants who have overrun parts of Syria and Iraq. Carter told a news conference a second company-sized group of Syrian fighters would begin training soon. The Pentagon chief said the company-sized unit that already has started training has about 90 personnel.
In other words, the vast majority of the carefully framed AP narrative was BS, except for one thing: the underlying fact - there is now an alliance between Turkey and Saudi Arabia to topple Assad, and the US is once again back and actively supporting anti-regime forces.
Which means that a rerun of the summer of 2013, when it was the entire world against the Syrian leader is about to be rerun. The entire world, that is, except for one person: Russia's Vladimir Putin.
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Here we go, another mad USA plan...
REPEAT AFTER US: WE SAID WE WANTED THE FUCKING PIPELINE
we said we wanted the fucking pipeline.
But it is a Qatar plan...
I thought Oblubber hated pipelines.
In any case, this has nothing to do with Israel.
Riiiiiiiight.
Iran to send 200,000 volunteers to Syria.
Where did you hear that, that is significant? Also we all know there is no plan for stabilization the US has not stabilized any country since.....Japan?
Seriously, US wanted the Arab Spring and SPRUNG loose all of the radicals since there was no longer a dictator lid on their regimes.
Now, Oblamo, Hitlery Kerry want Assaud to go also - for what? lay the groundwork for Armagedon?
NoVa
ISIS = ISRAELI SECRET INTELLIGENCE SERVICE
Such open, brazen dis-respect for any form of international law, sovereignity, people's right to choose their way of life...self-determination...
The Corporations have really let fly here. Afghanistan, Iraq, Lybia, Syria, Yemen.....Al Saud?
Saw some sad pictures from Alleppo and Aden...
Balance is inevitable.
MEanwhile, Sequence 16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKrzijChaYM
mumbo
Just as McCain said I know those al Qaeda rebels intimately.
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=33235
uhm, this is not new. They have been doing this for years.
HBO VICE program did a segment on it.
Went over there and interviewed the guys. Talked about their initial interviews by CIA agents and then how they traveled to Jordan and Qatar and got nice new boots and uniforms and formal military tactical training from American Spec Ops.
The entire world, that is, except for one person: Russia's Vladimir Putin.
Don't forget Iran and Hezbollah too. Those Hez boys know how to fight.
Poor Syria. NeoCon and NeoLibs all for killing Syrians including Syrian Christians. Stupid fux. Evangelicals will kill other Christians for their hero and idol Bibi.
Christianity supposedly opposes idols - odd how the Eveangelicals are all Jonathan Pollards on the indside. Jesus threw this money changing scum out of the temples. Even Jesus (and Bobby Fischer - a jew) disliked these people.
good post
Syria has gotten the same treatment from Russia/Putin as Iraq, Libya, Serbia, EUk and others. They have been set up and their lives used as sacrifices at best or Russia is/was fully on board with their destruction but pretends to be the opposition to the west (while trying to negotiate a better piece of the pie).
Putin cancelled a contract to sell anti air missiles to Syria. Putin voted for the removal of chemical weapons from Syria just as Russia did to Iraq (the chemical weapons were the only tool that concerned the west should they invade directly). Putin/Russia voted for the sanctions against Iran, sanctions that included a ban on Iran giving weapons to Syria.
Putin has given special deals to Turkey, a country that has participated in the destruction of Syria. Putin also has given special deals/discounts to WUke, a country commiting war crimes against EUke.
Russia still has not delivered any anti air missiles to Iran. Russia has never stood up to the west/NATO/Israel when directly confronted and has not even supplied air power or missile retaliation when Russia's allies have been attacked. Russia is even afraid to directly confront the proxy armies of the west, even by air.
Or maybe Russia sits at the same table as the west/Israel and this is simply about sparing for bigger shares.
If you believe Putin is really against this then this shows the ZH articles claiming Turkey and gone to Russia and that Putin was expanding influence are trashed. More like Putin will try to deliver gas to the EU nations by going through a country that is aligned with NATO and will be subjected to the same games as before.
this will be difficult for Putin. he needs Turkey, and he'd like not to aggravate SA anymore than he already has. then there's China. they need SA much more than Russia, and might not appreciate any Russian moves on them. Oh, and how about Iran? Assad might be forced to seek asylum with them, while Damascus is made into more of a wastland than it already is.
Once the fighting gets hot and Iran is distracted, what a great chance for Israel to pursue her ends.
what a freakin' mess.
can't we all just get along?
But... but.. I thought Turkey and Russia were now BFF's.
This needs a WB7 score card;)
It's all a flaming mess and anybody with a bit of sense would stay far away from it, but I expect Obozo and SoS Ketchup to jump right in and do the worst possible thing in the worst possible way.......
"Stay far away"?
Israel was the one shoving USA's head up the ass of the Saudis, while the head of the saudis was up Israel's ass, and USA loves the sodomising triangle.
I think staying far away is neither welcomed nor possible.
Sooooooo....... Isis isn't part of the plan to topple Assad? I'm so confused. Hey all you moderate terrorists, we have some weapons for you that we will finance for you at the low low rate of 10% compounded annually to help your cause.
Then..who's gonna topple China's Mao?
We keep changing sides and teams more often than a has-been pro athlete.
"It's not personal... It's just bithness".
Don't talk about Rickey Henderson that way. And please remind me, which side are we on? Other than Valerie Jarrett, who does Obama have to talk to at night, under the covers and scared shitless?
Sure, we can't trust Vlad and Erdogan. But we can always count on them behaving like Vlad and Erdogan. Kerry reminds me of a gerbil in lab cage, "pivoting" to whatever corner to avoid the electrical shock.
It must get tiring beating the fuck out of anyone who doesn't see you for the good guy that you are.
'Merka, Fuck Yeah!
pods
No, it's not tiring at all when you're throwing other people's children into the meat grinder. Let someone else's kids get their limbs blown off, it's for the greater good. Plus it make good patriotic stories to share on Farcebook.
As our empire erodes, our facism and fanaticism becomes more and more evident.
One day we'll go one step too far....uh...Qatar?
This is pretty bad for Assad. I think he's a goner in the next 24 months. What happens after that? Maybe a bigger ISIS. What do you guys think?
USA need more bad guys to slower Iran from taking lands.
Im pretty sure this is bad for more than just Assad. But hey what do I know. War is a racket.
Israel is behind it all and as soon as Assad is gone they will make their move on Iran.
Israel fears another loss against Hezbollah, so they saw it best to unleash Jihadi Apes on them (ISIS / Al Qaeda / Al Nusra / Al What Not ).
To face Iran, Hezbollah must first go, for Hezbollah to go, Syria must first go.
The bonus is a landgrab of Syria, where they can eventually drive the Palestinians, as they annex the West Bank (they can't do that while palestinians are plenty, because unless they risk being sanctioned for being an apartheid state in the future, they need to get rid of the Arab electorate - who doesn't have the right to vote)
Yes, unless Russia and China intervene it does not look good for Assad, or MENA. So, if Iran (supporter of fellow Shia, Assad) can get a nuke, why can't Assad buy one second hand from Russia as counter threat?
It looks to me more and more like the West knows it is going to have to withdraw and be bit players in the ME from now on. Plan B seems to be to leave it a hell hole run by hardline ISIS types so that Russian and China will have fun dealing with the medieval mess for the next 100 years.
I think Russia AND CHINA will be throwing a nuclear monkey wrench into those plans. I find it amusing that Assad is considered a villan by the "west", yet Turkey, with it's lawless dictatorial leader, is a member in good standing with NATO. Erdogan better wise up. He is on the wrong team. The "west" has a historical habit of turning on it's allies in a spectacular fashion. Especially if they are of the brown persuasion. So, this summer I think we will see either the start of WWIII or more humiliation of the "west" by the "non-west". Maybe both.
Well, he was pronounced a goner 24 times or more over the last 24 months or so. So, what I think is whether he is a goner or not, is entirely irrelevant, Syria and its people is completely and utterly fucked just like any other country fortunate enough to have something many want and no means to protect it. Bigger ISIS? Sure, as well as a friendly merger with Al Nusra front and a host of other radical Islamic armies.
Problem is they can't topple Assad (a Shia) without the help of ISIS (Sunnis) and they will demand hardline Shariah law with an eye to a greater caliphate to replace Assad. At least under Assad multiculturalism is allowed and the Christians and other non-muslims are allowed to live in peace.
When Chuck Norris finishes with ISIS, it'll be called WASWAS.
LOLOL
I respect Assad, Syria and the Syrian army. More than I can say for the corrupt feral scum in the USSA anymore.
Evil dishonest govt and feral rioting shit buy more corn syrup GMO "food" down at Wal Mart with the EBT.
And a military that takes an oath to uphold the defense contractors and their benefits versus upholding The Constitution.
Assad is an Alawite, not a Shi'ite.
Other than that, I agree with you.
Mysterious - The Magic Unterberg bleeds! On the day of the great earthquake in Nepal broke up under the "Schellenberger ice cave" a huge mass of rock and plunged into the valley. The scar on the mountain looks like a heart. Since then pours from there a blood-red stream in the Königseer Ache. Natural spectacle or Omen? Once before, on the eve of the 2nd World War the Unterberg has given a clear signal. At that time appeared a blood-red aurora borealis as it has never before seen on the lower mountain. Coincidence?
http://lupocattivoblog.com/2015/05/07/mysterios-der-magische-untersberg-...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nigssee
Put down the pipe.
"...as US starts training Syrian rebels."
They have been training "rebels" and supporting them for, what, 3 or 4 years now. Where do you think these simple "rebels" get their BGM-71 TOW Missiles from? This was never a spontaneous uprising against the Assad regime.
Just look up "Syria Tow Missile" to see American CIA, etc. has been training and equipping this murderous bunch.
This is just another proxy war created by the real terrorists in D.C., London, Jerusalem, etc. The disconnect from what people are told about what is going on in the world and what IS going on in the world is as different as night and day. Reality is just an abstraction for most, assuming they even dwell upon it for a moment.
russia tried to place sanctions on isis via united nation but west vetoed . now usa has decided to train 1200 more terrorists and send them via turkey in syria to never end this usa led chaos in syria . Russian response is yet to be seen .
http://www.debka.com/article/24578/Assad-loses-battles-as-US-Israel-Turkey-Jordan-Qatar-and-UAE-arm-Al-Qaeda’s-Syrian-branches
IOW we and our friends the Saudis are arming ISIS and Al Qaeda. The Iranians must be laughing their asses off. That is, if Iranians have asses, and are allowed to laugh.
The goal of course is the Zionazis of Israel to pick up the pieces. They will laugh their asses off as they kill women and children for fun and Americans will support them.
operation oded yinon plan saturn tick tocking
egypt sisi
turk pimp dog erdogan
house of saud
qatar
usa usa
city of london mi6
all jews or slaves to the zionist rabbi
blood and cern saturn satanic energy flow.
it written in der tora bora and talmoo
so it must be so
Assad took in lots of Iraqi Christians who fled when the USA invaded Iraq. And Assad is married to blond haired Brit Christian .
I guess that never makes the news in the USA.
Never. People have no clue about that aspect. The perception is just muslim on muslim fighting. In Libya the blacks were massacred along with Christians, but hey rock flag and eagle.
I think its more about *preventing* the Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline than toppling Assad on the theory doing so means they can run a pipeline through from Qatar.
How easy was running pipeline through Afghanistan?
You don't flood a place like Syria with arms to topple a government expecting that the aftermath will be conducive to building a pipeline and helping it not get blown up....
Israel's Leviathan gas field, however, to include the bits that legally belong to Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria...
*would not have to go through that unfortunate war torn land *
and it would still hurt Russia in the wallet.
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Israel Fuels The Syrian Crisis With Aid To Al-Qaida Rebels
http://www.mintpressnews.com/israel-fuels-the-syrian-crisis-with-aid-to-...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-secret-stupid-saudi-us-deal-on-syria/54...
http://www.voltairenet.org/article186019.html
Climbing into Bed with Al-Qaeda:
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/05/02/climbing-into-bed-with-al-qaeda/
Israeli jets bomb Syria, always with a typical excuse, and have bombed the Yemeni resistance.
If the US or House of Fraud is involved, so are the Ziopaths.
uh they have bombed yemen? oh really? typical counterpunch bullshit. where is your evidence?
or is everything that happens in the world that you see as 'evil' just simply attributed to isreal. please. thank you for answering my question before i even asked it. you hate isreal. gotcha.
you can spread your hate all you want and make up lies based on fabrication , which is what you are doing here, outright and openly telling people you are lying in your accusations..you represent nothing more than the supposed hatreds you attack. go fuck yourself and enjoy it.
US Media Shields Saudi War on Yemen:
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/05/05/us-media-shields-saudi-war-on-yemen/
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Wxn37Tt1Y
I have looked at this from every conceivable angle and I just don’t see how anything can go wrong!
Am I missing something?
/sarc/
It is most inspiring to see the restraint again shown by the USA and its allies such as Saudi Arabia and Israel.
Both toward Yemen and Syria they might have violated sovereign borders, attacked, invaded, or practiced other military aggressions, but few will dare accuse them of that.
On ther other hand, we have been given a new meaning to the label of aggression with the popular and official depictions of the bloodless referendum and subsequent annexation of separatist Crimea. Repeatedly we are informed that that is the proper type of aggression which the US and its dependencies (aka allies) can never tolerate.
USA SHOULD MIND ITS OWN BUSINESS
Maybe he thought Americans that respect the sovereignty of nations would help him out a bit. What a doofus!
In the past two months or so, Syrian rebels in the North suddenly started to get surprising victories. They conquered Idlib, gained more ground in Aleppo, even managed to expand close to Latakia, that is an Alawite territory.
In my opinion, many of these "rebels" are Turkish elite soldiers disguised as rebels. I cannot find another explanation, and the reported news further support my thesis.
Now, let us wait for the moves of Iran (and Russia).
Give Assad credit for hanging on. What many leaders (like old Adolph Hitler) do is expand their control over vast territory, then try to hold it. Assad knows he cannot hold the entire country, so he has pulled back into only those areas that he needs to control -- and basically has turned the rest of the country (mostly desert and bombed out cities) over to local warlords and terrorists. In addition to concentrating what remains of his army and air force into a more defensible position, Assad no longer has to provide any aid or money to the areas he does not control. (Think of this as 'we will defend New York but not Balitmore, so Baltimore, you are on your own!).
I don't see this move by Turkey and Saudi Arabia doing all that much to overthrow Assad. I suspect that if they make too much progress against Assad that you will see more Russian artillery and airpower given to Assad. And as for the rebels they are arming -- they may not like Assad, but they like the USA a LOT less.
The objectivity of the AP and Reuters cannot be relied upon, since they are controlled by entities with their own agenda. The role of Turkey is hard to decipher, or perhaps it is also as confused as the US is. But I doubt that since Turkey has always had a reputation for astuteness in foreign policy. The only thing that can be said with certainty is that Washington policy is fully controlled by Netanyahu and Oren, who have clearly stated that they would gladly ally themselves with any fanatical faction that is working to overthrow al Assad.
Please explain why Israel will be better off without Assad. No sarcasm here. It's not at all obvious, at least to me.
For the same reason Israel is better off without Saddam Hussein. Iraq, once an enemy state, is totally destabilized by inward fighting.
My personal view is that Israel will NOT be better off without al Assad, since he provides a stable, secular government on its border to the north. But Israel is not satisfied with that. They want to overthrow any government that is potentially able to restrict Israel's ambitions. Syria has always enjoyed support from Russia and blocked pipeline projects that may have benefitted Israel. Zionist fanaticism knows no limits. They are even willing to ally themselves with Saudi Arabia, with its polygamous medieval monarchy and the cradle of Islamic fanaticism.
Like toppling governments has worked so WELL in the recent past...Do any of these clowns have a full deck or is it just me?...
Well congress is doing what it is paid to do...
Senate Easily Passes Iran Nuclear Bill
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/08/us/politics/iran-bill-republicans.html
So...
I am sure that the USA must have ordered Turkey and Saudi Arabia to make such an alliance? They could not have decided to do this in their own interests? Because they are JUST THAT OBEDIENT?
From out of nowhere, begining about 45 days ago, there has been persistent messaging in western media that the Syrian government has been close to falling. Despite claims of sourcing with the intelligence community and thinktank set, that messaging seems more in service of prepping western public opinion for a stepped-up attack.
Seems like if you can't get the cats and dogs to live together, some people want to make them fight, instead, until one is dominant an rules the roost to their content.
So...is that Turkey and Saudi Arabia asking the US to intervene in return for favors?
Or is it the other way around?
I guess the pipeline to Turkey is cancelled. Things are looking ripe for what started WW1. Don't go driving in an open car Turkeyman
The timing is impeccable.
Russia and China's Navies will be together in the Mediterranean!
http://rt.com/news/254613-china-russia-mediterranean-navy/
Good.
Fantastic rap on Syria:
Omar Offendum “Crying Shame” — Rap on Syriahttp://thenewsdoctors.com/omar-offendum-crying-shame-rap-on-syria/
USA is a corporation, so minding it's own buisness is OUT.
This is the NWO world attacking Syria. In June they will be attacking the land mass formerly known as the United States of America.
How many people here think that Assad is Muslim? I bet LOTS.
He is. He's an Alawite and that's a branch of Islam although many extremists see them as apostates.
FOXCNNABCCBSNBC and BBC are the biggest LIARS on the planet and are controlled by the CIA/ Zionists).
What US is training Syrian fighters? So now we have Syrian Regime fighters, Syrian Islamic Extremist rebels, and Syrian (US trained) Moderate fighters...
An army guy I know, worked for the UN in Lebanon, says the whole ISIS thing stinks to high heaven. Pointed out that they attacked cities with huge columns of armored cars, tanks etc. spread out along the road. Sitting ducks for the USAF and/or drones had they wanted to destroy them. Clearly they did not.
Remember the bullshit they fed Americans about Saddam? Rape rooms. incubators etc (debunked years later). I remember some people were making urinal blocks with Saddams picture on them.
Its so easy to get Americans to hate someone.
But when I was flying freight into Baghdad in 1998-99, you could drink a cold beer , dance in a disco with women who dressed in normal western clothing. The schools in Iraq were some of the best in the region and Saddam had women and Christians in the govt. Saddam HATED Islamists, and terrorists.
Fastforward to March 2003 and the pack of LIES fed the Americans (even saying Iraq was behind 911). 4000 dumb fucks who swallowed the lies are DEAD. Actually that is small figure compared to the 58,000 that died in Vietnam based on another BIG LIE (Gulf of Tonkin incident).
I still remember the wankers screaming about how ''great' the USA was in Desert Storm. Even today I read comments from clowns who think they were so GREAT and GOOD in that war. Ask them about Kuwait slant drilling into Iraq and you get blank stares.
Is DutchBoy living in Holland or expat ? Greets from Ghent.
Both but no longer expat. Renounced last year. So back to my original citizen ship (born in Holland).
I watched 'Blokken'' tonight on Een and someone from Ghent was on LOL
Greetings from ''A Bridge too Far''.
And Iraq totally destroyed. FUBAR.
Because the last few tyrannical dictators deposed has worked out so well.
Yes, in the 80's Baghdad was known as the Paris of the Mideast; some friends of mine visited Baghdad and had nothing but good things to say about it. NOW, look what the fucking US has done to Iraq. Bush, Cheney and the Neocons need to be strung up from lightposts....
Yes, the leaders are to blame but then again, the troops that took part were brainwashed which says a lot about the intelligence of the troops. I have NO sympathy for them.
The Desert Storm bullshit in 1990 was to get the USA public to become military minded again., After Vietnam , many people woke up to the MIC.
See how easy it was to sway them with big parades and General Swartzkopf as some kind of fucking hero?
Everytime some jackoff says ''Thank you for your service'' I want to punch their lights out.
Nothing [k]new hear?,... the Saud's and GCC are all Sunni, and Turkey makes it [w]hole!
Sad though, that the USSA has to get involved in another 'Genocide Mission'[!] for 'God's Chosen'!?!
The 'Evolution of Religion' seem's to be morphing into a 'Faustian Triumph' where the agnostics are splitting the religious tree of life... severing deep-rooted dogmas by atheistic pruning via satan's cadres spreading the truncated good word[ing] of Allah!?!
Shame on the World!!!
All the NON Jews will be doing the fighting and dying. They are mere cattle according to the Talmud. You won't see IDF invading Iran, they will call upon the dumb cattle goyim of American forces to do the dying for them.
The most famous [WW 2 soldiers songs]was that of the so-called “First Man”:
First man to sink an enemy battleship – Colin Kelly
First man to set foot on enemy territory – Robert O’Hara
First woman to lose five sons – Mrs. Sullivan
First son of a bitch to get four new tires from the rationing board – Nathan Goldstein
Professor at City College famously quipped that “The battle hymn of the Jews is ‘Onward Christian Soldiers, We’ll sell you the uniforms.”
Wait? I thought Turkey and Russia had a gas deal already? Why would Turkey be helping SA? Something doesn't add up here...
Did you see the article about ISIS commanders now have a 5 star hotel?
I guess Americas' cruise missiles can't hit that. UNLESS Isis is actually CIA/Mossad front.
What do you think?
USSA is responsible for ISIS. It didn't just spring out of the sand. They got their weapons and training from the CIA via Benghazi. They are well connected and that is what MUST be burried and why nothing will ever happen to Cuntlery...
Yes, not only are the ZioNazis of Israel playing Divide and Conquer in the USSA but also in the Middle East and Eastern Europe.
Its their M.O. 'By Deception we will wage war''.
Here is another nice tidbit of PROPAGANDA that was used to get the Americans foaming at the mouth about Saddam
''Saddam paid 25,000 to families of suicide bombers in Israel''.
Fuck Saudi Arabian desert pedophile apes. Fuck their backstabbing two-faced Turkish allies, these miserable dogshit israelis, and most of all, fuck the AmeriKan govt sellouts who can't stop sucking Saudiisraelian cock and want to make us look like the biggest shitbags on the planet.
Take a look at these pictures - what was so wrong with Syria that it should be destroyed like this?
https://medium.com/@BradRHoff/a-marine-in-syria-d06ff67c203c
"On May 28, at the Third Annual Champions of Jewish Values International Awards Gala in York City, Cruz will receive the ‘Defender of Israel’ award from Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, the so-called “Most Famous Rabbi in America” and founder of The World Values Network, an organization “dedicated to disseminating the light of the Jewish people and promoting and defending the State of Israel as the supreme embodiment of a nation founded on these principles.” "
http://tabletmag.com/scroll/190671/ted-cruz-deemed-defender-of-israel-by...
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http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/israeli-nuclear-arsenal-prohibit...
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2012/07/21/fbi-documents-confirm-invol...
So that's settled then, Cruz gets the Nomination.
I don't get this and never did. Why do they need Syria? They could route any pipeline they want through Iraq and into Turkey that way.
Nothing to do with pipelines., its about geopolitics and eventually moving into Iran and regime change there. Any nation that doesn't have Rothschild central bank.
As I said above, that's my point. The whole idea is to destroy Syria's infrastrure and break it up into warring ethnic factions. Just like has been done in Iraq. All directly in line with the Yinon Plan.
The bullshit about nukes and pipelines are actually smoke screens.
Syria is an ally of Iran and Hezbollah.
Who hates Iran and Hezbollah more than the devil?
You answered correctly.
Now go and search for an article called "A new strategy for Israel" written in 1982-83 by Oded Yinon, security advisor to the Israeli government - In there, is a carbon copy of what is taking place in Syria - In fact, the article proposes a War in Syria to break it up into ethnic minorities, a model for all of its arab neighbours in the Middle East and beyond.
Actually this is my point. I'm familiar with the Yinon Plan and the Syrian atrocity is right in line with its playbook. Good to know that others are noticing...
Turkey of Erdogan now neo-Ottoman and neo-Sunni to the hilt. The war with the neo-Safavids will now rage full blast.
To think that these Sunni obscurantists have taken us back to 1533...when Soleiman invaded Azerbaidjan and threatened and took Baghdad before losing it again.
Uncle Sam plays Charles V, but China is Genghis khan's blood line with his Ilkhanate in the making (some awesome compression of 13 and 16 th centuries rolled up in one). Lets see if EU can play at Francis I.
Those Assad clique are more like the Mamlukes who were allied to Golden horde against the Crusaders.
Haha! Guess who wins and who loses. Oil route replaces the old silk, lapiz and spice routes.
FDR must be turning in his grave. From Yalta to Middle Ages in 70 years!
That erDOGan is a 3 faced CUNT.
Lebensraum for Israel or die (Zion kills you.).
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
"Which means that a rerun of the summer of 2013, when it was the entire world against the Syrian leader is about to be rerun."
"Entire world?" Really?! Muricans do not represent an entire world, nor do slaves of City in Europa. World is a much bigger place than USA and EU. Out of 7 billion people on Earth, EU, Murica and other English speaking colonies of the City of London combined do not have a billion souls. Not even 1/7, or 14% of an "entire world" ffs!
You missed the point.
Don't swallow an elephant and
gag on a gnat.