
BEIJING — When a Chinese honor guard joins a military parade in Russia’s capital this weekend, watched by China’s President Xi Jinping, it will mark more than just a symbolic recognition of the two countries’ contributions to the Allied victory in 1945.
China’s participation also reflects an upgrade of its military ties with Russia, including joint naval exercises and a revival of arms purchases, that could complicate U.S.-led efforts to counter both nations’ expanding military activities, analysts and diplomats say.
They’ve basically come to a consensus that despite their differences over some national interests, they really face the same common enemy,” said Gilbert Rozman, an expert on China-Russia relations at Princeton University.
– From the Wall Street Journal article: China Parades Closer Ties in Moscow
One of the key themes here has been the carelessness and ineptitude of those in charge of crafting U.S. foreign policy. I’m not naive, and I fully understand that the world is a dangerous place. Just as I believe individuals should have the right to defend themselves and their families with the right to bear arms, I also understand the importance of strong national defense.
The problem with current U.S. foreign policy is that it is not defensive in nature. Rather, all indications are that the U.S. government is acting offensively; primarily driven by ego and the will to dominate. Much of the world has come to see the U.S. not as a powerful partner, but as a narcissistic master. What American leadership fails to understand, is that by taking such a posture it is simply making others overseas feel paranoid and threatened, thus drawing them closer to each other and farther from the U.S.
The examples of U.S. foreign policy disaster since 9/11 are many, and I have listed several of them at the end of the post. However, the one I want to highlight today is the ongoing slow motion train wreck with regard to Russia.
As readers will be well aware, the U.S government has been attempting to apply severe pressure on the Russian economy in an attempt to weaken Vladimir Putin’s position at home, and ultimately topple his government. It is now clear that this strategy has completely failed. To make matters worse, the “strategy” has merely solidified the view amongst emerging powers of the need for a counter to U.S. aggression. Nowhere can this be seen more clearly than with the increasingly close relationship between Russia and China.
To summarize, not only did the U.S. foreign policy clowns’ strategy fail, it has actually served to weaken the American position considerably by bringing potentially dangerous geopolitical rivals closer together.
We learn of the following from the Wall Street Journal:
BEIJING — When a Chinese honor guard joins a military parade in Russia’s capital this weekend, watched by China’s President Xi Jinping, it will mark more than just a symbolic recognition of the two countries’ contributions to the Allied victory in 1945.
China’s participation also reflects an upgrade of its military ties with Russia, including joint naval exercises and a revival of arms purchases, that could complicate U.S.-led efforts to counter both nations’ expanding military activities, analysts and diplomats say.
The 102 Chinese troops who will join the Victory Day parade in Moscow on Saturday were seen during a rehearsal this week marching through streets near Red Square singing the Russian wartime ballad “Katyusha”, according to video footage posted online.
The only other foreign countries with troops in the parade are India, Mongolia, Serbia and six former Soviet states.
Yeah, just Russia, China and India. No big deal. Without France, they’re nobody.
Three Chinese navy ships also made a rare foray into the Black Sea on their way to join commemorations in Russia’s southern port of Novorossiysk on Saturday.
The Chinese ships—two missile destroyers and a supply vessel — will then take part in joint exercises with the Russian navy in the Mediterranean Sea for the first time, according to Chinese and Russian authorities.
Both sides say the drills aren’t directed at other countries, but the timing, after Russia’s 2014 annexation of Crimea, and the location, on NATO’s southern flank, have compounded Western concerns about an emerging Moscow-Beijing axis.
Gotta love that, “compounded Western concerns about an emerging Moscow-Beijing axis.” An axis that is happening precisely due to the aggressive and inept U.S. foreign policy to begin with.
On Wednesday, Russia’s government unveiled a draft cybersecurity deal with China under which both countries agree not to conduct cyberattacks against each other and to counteract technology that might disrupt their internal politics.
Mr. Xi also appears to share a personal affinity with Russian President Vladimir Putin who is seen by many in China as a strong, patriotic leader.
Last year, Moscow and Beijing staged joint naval exercises for the first time in the East China Sea, where China is embroiled in a territorial dispute with Japan. In September, Mr. Putin and some of his troops will join a military parade in China to mark the anniversary of Japan’s defeat in 1945.
The Pentagon says China is also now pursuing a new joint design and production program with Russia for diesel-electric submarines, which could be used to try to prevent U.S. ships from intervening in a conflict in Asia.
“They’ve basically come to a consensus that despite their differences over some national interests, they really face the same common enemy,” said Gilbert Rozman, an expert on China-Russia relations at Princeton University.
“I think they’re both sending a message that their relationship is stronger than outsiders generally expect and if others put pressure on either in their own arenas, the two will stand together.”
You can thank the idiotic neocons in both the Republican and Democratic parties for this outcome.
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Furthermore, here is how Chinese media portrays Obama's absence...
Chinese media: Obama prefers going to play golf rather than joining #RussiaVictoryDayParade. Xi is more responsible! pic.twitter.com/EVSAgqJUTE
— George Chen (@george_chen) May 9, 2015





none of which actually matters to making your daily life as a 99 percenter any better, other than to distract you if you think any of this posturing is actually relevant
china using nationalism for the same way russia or usa do, to distract the serfs when the ecnomy slows. china has never and continues to have very little interest outside of regional soft power. china basically has NO real investment in RU... RU, economically, is on par with barely 3 Tier 3 cities. on the other hand, basically EVERY single Chinese with any real political or business power has their billions invested in the US... what do you think is going to determine their real actions? their nationalistic posturing? or how they actually invest their money? china has no real interest in conflict with the US.
if you believe otherwise... well... good job 1 percenters lol
Your comments are nothing but a distraction from any attempt at truth. If you think economy matters more than war?
World War 3 will once again be the World vs Fascism.
The World alliance is forming before our eyes.
In the Treaty of Paris of 1783, the said United States never gained a full independent status per se, nor did the British Monarchy grant those colonies such privilege:
Transcript of Treaty of Paris (1783)
The Definitive Treaty of Peace 1783
In the Name of the most Holy & undivided Trinity.
It having pleased the Divine Providence to dispose the Hearts of the most Serene and most Potent Prince George the Third, by the Grace of God, King of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, Duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, Arch- Treasurer and Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire etc.. and of the United States of America...
Article 1st:
His Brittanic Majesty acknowledges the said United States, viz., New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia, to be free sovereign and Independent States; that he treats with them as such, and for himself his Heirs & Successors, relinquishes all claims to the Government, Propriety, and Territorial Rights of the same and every Part thereof.
http://www.ourdocuments.gov/print_friendly.php?page=transcript&doc=6&tit...
Additionally, the United States of America hasn't abrogated Inter Caetera nor do they have such powers.
Coincidence that Benjamin Franklin negotiated on behalf of the United States the Treaty of Paris and acted as liaison with His Holiness Pope Pius VI?
One would think the Western Jew (run) Governments would show up and pay their respects for the people who liberated them from the "Holocaust"...unless, I mean unless the Holocaust wasn't really what we have been told and there is some sort of other plan in action we don't (or maybe do) see. All in all, disgusting and proof that we have been lied to in some large way all of our lives.
I'm sure there must have been a ZH brigade, meeting at the Timeline pub every Thursday in 1936 and sounding just like this board.
So many of these TLDR pieces, anal sys heaped on anal sys....bit this is so obviously pre-programmed, long term....even a fool can see the patttern rolling out....
Interesting though, India can be a key pivot, if they could call their own destiny of course...
Meanwhile, soothe:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzESrhRrkTI
It seems to me that the Mainland Chinese were much like the French.
There were not enough Japanese troops to maintain control of the entire Chinese mainland.
There were not enough Japanese troops to maintain control of the entire Chinese mainland.
The entire idea of an occupying army has been rendered ridiculous, as long as the common man has the will and the means to resist. Large organizations and "leaders" are not required. As I have stated many times here at ZH, the mighty US military couldn't control an area the size of Texas. "God created man, and Sam Colt made them all equal" as the saying goes. When you piss me off enough, and I cross the Rubicon of caring about my liberty more than my life, all things are possible.
I think Hunger Games must be like some kind of corporate porn movie, and corprate boards sit around in board meetings jerking off while watching it. It is obvious they mean to empoverish all of us into some kind of neofeudal subsitence-based existence. It is extremely obvious that they hate us for our "freedom". You exist to pay taxes or to maintain the systems of revenue.
The problem with the middle class is that trust is a necessary feature of a middle class existence. The working middle class has been trained through television to consumerism, and has turned its back on the nature of government by trusting it to have its best interests at heart while they pursue their consumerist lifestyles. These are the fence-sitters I have sometimes referred to, who cannot or do not wish to believe the words of the Framers regarding the nature of government, and whom cannot believe even modern warnings like Eisenhower's, or Ron Paul.
We mostly already live in the world of Hunger Games you describe, except that presently, given your wealth and status, you're one of the henchmen / monitors who sits in the Districts making sure the really exploited souls don't have the chance to rise up and overpower the City which is just the .0001% and their sychophants.
The BRICS are the resistance. They are the breakaway Districts, and China and Russia are the alliance, the lead nations (districts). Reason the BRICS are all over the world, is because they needed a presence all over the world. It might have been more opportune to have all of BRICS in the same continent, but as it turns out, they are well dsitributed, to be a threat that cannot just be carpet bombed to oblivion by forsaking 1 continent. Funny thing is, who is modifying California's weather and thereby the weather of the whole country... US or someone else?
The reason the Middle Class does nothing is because they are paind NOT TO THINK, and they know this, so they oblige... Zappos' experiment in Socialism will eventually work, if we wait long enough for people to recover their mental faculties, but it will fail if that is expected to occur within a single year. But back to the Global theme... China and Russia don't need the US, they just don't want the people of the US to suffer needlessly. That is why the World did not just place Sanctions against the US... because SANCTIONS ARE TERRORISM, same as indiscrimate bombing, because you're punishing innocent people to achieve a political or economic change.
The US cannot practice the rule of law, by pursuing pre-crime, perceived intentions, speculation, wild fucking guess. That is what they are doing, per their rhethoric. On the other hand, what they're really doing, which is stealing the wealth from everyone in the world, the World has finally said NO MORE. I think the ending to the Hunger Games franchise will be very interesting, but ironically, the Middle Class will resist their saviors. How ironic.
I think it is a mistake to think the US will not be in a position of power during the inevitable upcoming monetary shift.
They certainly may lose some power but the hope they will not be sitting at the table helping make the decisions is probably inaccurate.
The US is welcome to sit at the table, and invited, but not as the bully and not bringing threats. As equals, in a global world of prosperity, instead of a single caste of thieves. (caste being the .0001% globally, many of whom use US foreign policy to achieve their wealth)
Funny thing is, who is modifying California's weather and thereby the weather of the whole country... US or someone else?
I saw somewhere (maybe ZH) that the US is seeding rainclouds over the Pacific so they'll dump their water before reaching California, the reason being that the rain carries high levels of Fukushima radiation.
When I first read this I thought "nah, this is too much". The problem is that, like other things these days, is that you can't force yourself to dis-believe when stranger stuff has turned out to be true.
That is an interesting possibility, but given that, perhaps they could have invested more in getting water to the people who need it?
That would only make sense if they thought they could make a buck somehow.
"...the reason being that the rain carries high levels of Fukushima radiation..."
Perhaps first you would like to consider if it is possible for the radiation to get into the rain?
Remember distilled water is formed by boiling water then condensing it.
Put simply water vapour evaporates from the sea to form clouds then condenses to form rain.
"Meanwhile, soothe:"
No thanks, I prefer to remain tense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4agXcHLySs
Weird and interesting...
Downvoted for confusing Judaism with Zionism. This is a Zionist tactic, to appropriate a religion's symbols (e.g., the Israeli flag) for secular power, and to use that religion as a shield from criticism.
OK. How about pre-zionist, pre-neocons, bolsheviks, talmudists?
Current Jews are treated as human shields, they have even been trained to remain in the line of fire for the Zionists.
Most Jews I meet will claim they are Zionists, while real Zionists laugh behind curtains.
I don't pick religious sides, in business I see Jews that act like grubbing Zionists..and Jews that are good hearted people.
One thing is for sure. Jews were the minority killed in WW2. Why do they get ALL the reparations:? Were Germans, Americans, Europeans, Indians, Chinese, Japanese and Russians expendable...to someone?
RIPS
The Israeli flag includes a symbol of Zionism- the star of Remphan, Chiun, Moloch:
http://watch.pair.com/mark2.html
Modern day Israel is a Zionist creation- at the behest of Walter Rothschild.
Yup.
Religion is a ploy to strengthen ingroup morality and therefore the control by the psychopaths in charge.
When the city-state was the pinnacle of governmental organization practically every city had their own personal god.
City-states gone = City Gods gone.
...."confusing Judaism with Zionism. This is a Zionist tactic, to appropriate a religion's symbols (e.g., the Israeli flag) for secular power, and to use that religion as a shield from criticism."
I think this cannot be emphasized enough. I KNOW there are plenty of decent jewish folks who are as disgusted with the zionists and Israel as we all are, who are sidelined by the msm and attacked by "their own" for their conscience. I've spent a lot of time trying to encourage these folks to speak out against the zionists hiding in plain sight in their midst and this commingling of judaism with zionism only serves the hateful zionists.
Unless you are deaf, dumb and blind you cannot help noticing that the zionists are found at the epicentre of almost all the most serious crimes against humanity and inciting everyone else to hatred. From fomenting wars and supporting terrorists (Israel treating ISIS terrorists in their hospitals is a big fucking clue) to foreign policy lobbyists and economic/banking drivers. In the West, they control our politicians, our media, our civil services, and now the hearts and minds of ordinary people who are swayed by the constant bombardment of lies. It is Zionism and Israel that should be at the foreforont of our vigilence, not ordinary jewish people.
In the coming war, the US will NOT escape the deaths and destruction experienced by China and the former Soviet Union.
Finally, will come the end of that stupid rap shit, the Kardashians, dumb black professional athletes, the Clintons et al.
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall,
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again.
Sometimes I think every day in Wahington some guy wakes up and asks: "Which country can I piss off today?"
Sometimes I think every day in Russia and China do the same, but no actions needed now until they'll win 100 year marathon(as Dr. Pillsbury wrote in his book) . It's just a politics.
I was wondering how effective the US navy will be in any future war with Russia and China, the two of them could easily march into the middle East; and that would be that. Have the US carrieirs become obsolete like the battleships during WW11?
Yup, a nuclear warhead anti ship ballistic missile can sink an entire carrier group in 1 shot, it can be fired from anywhere as well.
Your comments are nothing but a distraction from any attempt at truth. If you think economy matters more than war?
The two are linked. Empires are generally war-conquest economies, which collapse when they run out of exploitable victims (e.g., Rome, European colonials, and now the US).
As far as the poster goes, distraction from truth is the purpose of trolls, whether paid or volunteer. Pretend you care about the 99%, then say that basically the US is the only game in town because the corrupt oligarchs of the world put their money there.
Homo's not welcome.
Logged in just to upvote your comment.
Sad to see so many down votes to what was the most coherent post on this thread. Just goes to show you cant teach the tin foil pot heads a damn thing
I just logged in to support your claim. I agree 100% what you say (no sarc)......The communist elite of china is too busy thinking how to steal money from the masses, send their kids to the US colleges, buy a supercar for their kids, buy a home over there & eventually defect one day.
This is a real story of what happened in a Japanese factory in china. A chinese manager was exorting the workers to work hard & make china a strong country again....Then he approaches the Japanese company owner & asks him how to defect to the West.....some hypocrite.
In addition, the relationship between china & south korea is even more interesting. China is a gangster supersized like Al Capone & korea is its henchman or more like a small time punk. Together, they gang up to bash Japan, steal islands from the Philippines, throw the US out of the Pacific & take control of Hawaii and everything to the West to create a modern version of Asain Co-prosperity Sphere of Imperial Japan of WWII. China just wants more living space & resources for its industry....that's all.
ZH is too boring to read...best place to get info about chinese & korean mindset is from Japanese sites. See link below. It's in Japanese but u can get auto translator. The quality is much better.
http://newsnavi.2ch.net/news4plus/
go away then...
"ZH is too boring to read..."
...and yet, here you are.
"china has never and continues to have very little interest outside of regional soft power."
"basically EVERY single Chinese with any real political or business power has their billions invested in the US... what do you think is going to determine their real actions?"
You do realize that you contradicted yourself right, therefore nullifying your arguement.
I'm a big fan of Putin and Russia, but upvoted you anyway because the comment is valid as far as it goes. All such public rituals are scripted and intended to reinforce whatever message the organizers want to convey.
As for Russian and Chinese kleptocrats investing their money, maybe so. All those dollars have to come back somehow. But they must know in the back of their minds that their purchased assets could be seized one day based on their national origin, and the value of their dollar-based assets could vaporize. I also have read that China (as a country, not rich individuals) is buying up commodity sources all over the non-West, so it doesn't all go to the US, does it?
Do you think that China and Russia might be buying gold? Just sayin'
India was there, with a contingent of troops, along with Serbia, Belarus, and a load of 'stans.
..."very little real interest outside of regional soft power..."
Really, China pretty well owns sub Saharan Africa.
Your analyais is pure crap along with your grammer.
The stage is being set.
Wheel out the Fat Lady and lets get this party started........
I think the Russians left the families that funded WWII on our side so all they would have to do to defeat us is wait.
Precisely. The parasite is still sucking on us, only harder.
Lt. Colonel Givi leading tanks in Donestsk (DPR). The guy is a legend.
https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/t31.0-8/p480x480/11038871...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LXNQkuLBhQ
I bet Givi is saying - come one Kiev shit stain dual shit-i-zens Yats and Porky - start the shit up again and we will put you into another f**king cauldron.
http://thesaker.is/something-truly-amazing-happened-today/
Russian Defense Minister Shoigu made the sign of the Cross before the beginning of the celebrations:
Meanwhile - US military, Pentagon, intel and us defense minister make demonic sign as they serve MIC and the dual shit-i-Zens. US Military - serving the red shield banksters since 1861.
The Nazi Azov battalion is obsessed by Shirokino. Nice place for a pincer movement as it and nearby Mariupol are on the coast.
" Russian Defense Minister Shoigu made the sign of the Cross before the beginning of the celebrations "
i was more interested in his salute to Xi Jinping.
dup
But where was Luka? I thought he was coming...
He stays in Minsk, but see the ribbon
http://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_original/9/8/9/5408989.jpg
long video of march
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VoTpAq5LPg&hd=1
Steven Segal comes to Moskva in his place :-)
http://www.yaplakal.com/forum2/topic1107839.html
This is the guy who didn't flinch when a mortar round was fired at him. Stonewall Givi! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9brROdvAHY
UN security general Ban Ki Moon & Presidents of India, South Africa and Eqypt along with their marching bands were also participating. About 16 countries were present inspite of boycott from NATO.
This celebration is a pretty big deal for Russians, as they lost about 15% of their population at that time in WWII. Maybe it was for the better this way... characters like Obozo or Holland would have diminished the solemnity of the moment. Besides, nobody missed them much over there. The leaders of the countries that will matter tomorrow, were there to be seen. We are quickly becoming irrelevant: economically, militarily and (worst of all) culturally... a spent force with a big, annoying mouth !
“The Secretary-General and the President also exchanged views on climate change ahead of the United Nations Climate Change Conference to be held in Paris, France in December 2015.”
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=50812&Cr=Russia%20&Cr1=#.VV...
"Russian President Vladimir Putin who is seen by many in China as a strong, patriotic leader."
God it makes me sad that we don't have one of those.
You mean a leader admired by the corrupt Chicoms??? Why would you want one of those? ;-)
Hey Nihilist. America has a 'leader' who's admired by the worthless douchbags of the country. I never knew how many of those douchbags had accumulated in 'merica and how much jew-confetti that they have accumulated.
In the old days women, negros, and jews couldn't vote. Do you think there was a reason for this?
Well, now you made you bed and you don't want to sleep in it? Good night 'merica. Sleep tight.
As long as Wall St & Corporatocracy own US Gov't you will not see a strong leader as US President - only puppets.
more depress is no hope in future....
its always the same, only worse
The US is lead by the dumbest pygmy in the forest.
How did that happen?
It was the politically correct thing to do. As always, ideology kills everything else...
Hit the nail on the head. Unlike Western 'leaders' (haha love it), at least Putin looks and acts as if he might be in charge. He also seems unaware of the concept of being politically correct.
one of the biggest overlooked lessons of ww2---on an objective basis ----
is that japan and germany lost tremendous strategic value because of lack of cooperation.
biggest overlooked problems of cold war-----stalin and mao were at best uneasy with one another and did not really cooperate very much if at all . and they did have border skirmishes. this was a major advantage for the western world in general.
----lack of cooperation between major strategic powerhouses for no real good reasons has been a historical reality--and is a huge fumble.
and right now---the u.s. is doing it's best TO ALIENATE EUROPE AND THE U.K.
the problem is not that the u.s. is pushing russia and china together. in fact, that is just russia and china having good capable leadership for the first time in a long time. the problem is the u.s. is now putting a wedge needlessly between her and her allies , why? because the u.s. doesn't want allies it wants followers. the u.k. and european nations are no longer the vassals of ww2. and the u.s. itself is beginning to suffer under the weight of its own success.
that is the real major problem of the u.s and it is ONLY just starting. the chinese, indians and russians are well aware of this and doing their best to pull turkey and germany into her orbit. away from nato atlanticist influence. it will work against the u.s. overtime.
The biggest overlooked lessons of all major wars are that all wars are bankers wars.
vlad will rub our nose in it.
vlad is not correct diminutive of Vladmir
Obama is an idiot who has sex with other men. What the fuck is wrong with stupid merikans ?
Pretty much everything !
what do you expect from pro-zionist jew-run goverment
To summarize, not only did the U.S. foreign policy clowns’ strategy fail, it has actually served to weaken the American position considerably by bringing potentially dangerous geopolitical rivals closer together.
or as the current administration would say, SUCCESS!!!!
This might have been an opportunity to set aside, temporarily, the differences between Russia and the West. Remembering WWII, and the cost in blood for defeating the NAZIs (far more for the Soviets than the U.S.), should be a lesson to be learned and re-learned. There is a lack of real statesman among those running this country. Embarrassing and troublling.
The people who run USSA and EU-SSR are the same dual citizens who were Bolsheviks who took over Russia in 1918. Many were from NY City, Europe and backed by Wall Street, London and Frankfurt bankster family money. They murdered 25 million Russian Christians even before WW2.
They lost control of Russia with Putin and they want it back.
http://thesaker.is/todays-victory-day-celebrations-in-moscow-mark-a-turn...
Today’s Victory Day celebrations in Moscow mark a turning point in Russian historyIt is plainly obvious history that the international bankers were able to kick the shit out of Russia and China during the 20th Century.
Tragically, I think that the human species now faces worse problems than being controlled by the banksters. Although the banksters' control greatly contributed to those problems being aggravated, the banksters did NOT create those problems, but only developed expedient sets of solutions which benefited them.
I do NOT believe that the countries who are now attempting to resist the bankster dominated NATO countries are going to succeed, because I believe that the entire human species is going to fail. That Russia and China have learned to adopt enough of the methods of the banksters to be able to more effectively resist does NOT mean that the world overall is a better place. Rather, in a perverse way, things are even worse.
Globalized electronic monkey money frauds, backed by the threat of force from apes with atomic bombs, does NOT have any apparent realistic solutions. The primarily Western international banksters were the best at being dishonest and backing that up with violence, and were able to apply the methods of organized crime to capture control overall the governments of NATO countries. However, those countries which are now somewhat organizing to be able to resist them are still NECESSARILY STUCK in the same ruts.
The overall runaway criminal insanities of the human species continue, although who may be the most criminally insane changes. What is NOT happening in any publicly significant ways are changes in how enough people think and behave. The same old lies backed by violence methods are AMPLIFIED by technologies which are trillions of times more capable and powerful ... BUT, the basic politics of social pyramid systems based on being able to control civilization through backing up lies with violence (primarily because nothing else is able to work as well in the short-term) continues to automatically get worse, faster ...
Political processes would have to go through more profound paradigm shifts than physical science has already gone through, in order that human beings MIGHT survive the development of technologies which have become trillions of times more powerful, and are headed towards becoming quadrillions of times so, IF civilization could survive the growing contradictions:
Human ecology is controlled by murder systems based on the maximum possible deceits about themselves, because those were historically the most successful strategies, and those became the basis for political economy to be dominated by a financial system based on the maximum possible frauds, which was made and maintained by the international bankers. Given that history, developing better integrated human, industrial and natural ecologies is practically impossible. The countries which are attempting to resist the international bankers are only able to do by adopting the same methods. The short-term social successfulness of being able to back up deceits with destruction and enforce frauds continues to be locked into human systems, by each short-term increment of that working ... while the longer term consequences of doing that automatically accumulate as being even worse, even faster.
If one looks at the charts in the article above, one will recognize that while most of that is correct, the Russian Chinese developments are those of reactionary revolutionaries, who are not making quantum leaps forward, but rather belatedly responding to how the international banksters were able to kick the shit out of them.
Of course, as the pattern of comments and votes on Zero Hedge demonstrate, most of the more educated readers here, who have studied enough history, applaud that, since they too are aware of the degree to which America and other NATO countries are now having the shit kicked out of them by the results of being dominated by the international banksters. However, just as most of those who make relatively well-informed comments on Zero Hedge tend to be reactionary revolutionaries, so too, on a larger scale, that is what Russia and China, and the rest of other emerging resistance to the banksters dominate Western systems, which are symbolized by the dominance of the USA, along with other NATO countries, are actually implementing.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-02/what-does-putin-want
What Does Putin Want?
The view that nuclear powers will not confront each other directly is way too confident that the rulings classes are still rational, rather than manifesting runaway criminal insanities. In my view, the international banksters that dominate the USA and other NATO countries are too criminally insane to be able to fully comprehend. In my view, most people do not like to consider that ...
Overall, the human species continues to manifest the probably fatal contradictions of monkeys whose money is electronic frauds, that is backed up by apes with atomic bombs. The ways that the human species should be transformed to cope with the development of physical science ought to be similar developments in political science. However, NOTHING like that is possible, because the existing systems are based on backing up lies with violence, and ONLY alternative ways of backing up lies with violence can compete with the established systems of backing up lies with violence.
Russia and China, et alia, are still social pyramid systems, which are attempting to resist the dominance of the worst globalized social pyramid systems. The human species continues to have civilizations controlled by backing up lies with violence. DESPITE the development of physical science through a profound series of paradigm shifts, to develop technologies which became orders of magnitude greater than ever before in human history, politics continues to be controlled by old-fashioned religions and ideologies.
In particular, Russia and China are not that different. The only thing that they have done is assimilate and adopt the same methods developed by the Western Imperialists, while countries like Russia and China are attempting to resist being as dominated as they used to be by that Western Imperialism. However, that mostly means that those attempts at resistance are manifestations of reactionary revolutions, that are endeavouring to go backwards, or to preserve or maintain their own favourite old-fashioned traditions.
Obviously, I do not like the Anglo-American (Zionist) international banksters and the governments that they control. However, neither to I like those who are resisting them by adopting the same methods. The tragedies are that nothing else works in the short-term than backing up lies with violence. Those who are the best at that dominate civilization, and those were primarily the international banksters, through them being able to control governments to enforce those banksters' frauds.
I WISH that there was some other way out of that situation than attempts at reactionary revolutions to resist the banksters. However, I am not aware of any publicly significant manifestations of that, and neither am I aware of any theoretically possible ways that could be done. The human species appears to be doomed to destroy itself. The progress in physical science is not matched by progress in political science. Rather, the same chronic problems of the social successfulness of being able to back up lies with violence, or enforce frauds, continue to automatically get worse, faster, the more that physical science progresses, while political science goes nowhere, since politics is still dominated by old-fashioned religions and ideologies, which deliberately do not want to change the ways that they think. At the present time, I am still unable to believe in any other realistic outcome to the current escalating conflicts than that everyone loses. There is nothing remotely close to human beings thinking differently enough about their chronic political problems to resolve those in sufficiently better ways.
By and large, most better informed people who post comments on Zero Hedge approve of those other countries who are attempting to resist the international banksters, and wish that the USA and other NATO countries could do that too. However, those resisting countries, as well as those within NATO countries that wish they too could somehow effectively resist, tend to all be reactionary revolutionaries, promoting old-fashioned ideas, rather than promoting the kinds of radical ideas which would theoretically be necessary for globalized systems of electronic monkey money, backed by apes with atomic bombs, to survive the contradictions of that being the actual situation.
We are on runaway paths towards developing computer/machine entities which are even more psychotic than we already are. Those computer/machine entities are not being developed in any ways that would go beyond manifesting many orders of magnitude worse forms of GI/GO. Human beings control their civilizations through the Garbage In of lies, and the Garbage Out of violence, as the history of civilizations built on being able to back up deceits with destruction, which morphed into enforcing frauds.
While the international banksters' systems are based upon enforcing frauds, doing that has been developed to become globalized applications of electronics and atomic energy, etc ... In that context, nobody else can effectively resist them, except by doing the same things. Since human beings collectively tend to almost completely take for granted living inside of systems based on backing up lies with violence, there are practically no ways for them to get out of those vicious ruts, automatically getting worse, faster.
In theory, human beings would have to understand THEMSELVES better as general energy systems, so that they could develop integrated systems of human, industrial and natural ecologies. However, the actual history of having done that was most socially successful through those who were the best at being dishonest and backing that up with violence controlling civilization, in ways which have resulted in that civilization become manifestations of runaway criminal insanities. While the USA and other NATO countries, as currently controlled by the international banksters are the MOST criminally insane, the emerging attempts that are being made by some other countries to resist them are still ALSO criminal insanities, that follow the same basic patterns. Since each short-term increment is controlled by being able to back up lies with violence, the tragic trajectory of human civilization is to automatically become more psychotically insane.
The great paradox continues to be final failure from too much "success." I do not see any resistance to the international banksters being able to get out of that vicious spiral rut. I would like to believe that the new levels of resistance being manifested by some countries were good developments. However, I continue to be forced to conclude those are only reactionary revolutions. (Which is similarly the conclusions I have come to regarding the vast majority of the content of Zero Hedge, as being, so far, the overall final result of the discussions of these issues presented by the more well-informed writers.)
At three minutes to midnight it's easy to agree with you Rad. Using your 'stuck in the rut' analogy, it's a horrible feeling when your tractor sinks into the mud during spring planting. Not only have you created big ruts in your nicely cultivated field but you know by the time you get the tractor out the field will be a huge mess, the tractors caked in mud, and precious time and energy will have been wasted. I once saw a cartoon: the first approach is to call in a bigger four-wheel drive tractor and a big-ass steel chain (think quantatative easing). Despair set in when it too sank into the mud. Finally the neighbours show up with a six-hitch team of draft horses and salvage the machines.
We could say that Russia and China et al are the mocked old timers with the horses but suddenly they have the power to negotiate a deal with the mighty machine owners who have been kicking the shit out of them financially for a century. They are wise to their game, prepared to have their horses stolen or run off by the salvaged machines. THIS TIME IT IS DIFFERENT. Why? Because they no longer know how to be a teamster. The reaction next time the machine get stuck in a rut will be different.
While that may be called reactionary, it is the pre-requisite to the radical. It forces everyone to question their politics because the controlled opposition just announced they finally realize they are being controlled and they refuse to play that part any longer.
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I was watching the video of Putin's Victory Europe speech on the other thread and thought I saw Ban Ki Moon but figured I was mistaken because there was no mention of him being there in the article or the comments. That's interesting because Putin mentions the United Nations, international law, and modern threats in his speech. To me this was the core message. The UN is on the verge of it's final failure. The UN can no longer be used as a tool to control opposition. De-stabilization, while scary, is at least sane, or, less insane.
I was beginning reading the draft of the Paris Protocol that was released recently in Geneva and through all the blahblahblah one thing stuck out: the wording in the draft has options and one section regarding the reduction of emissions ( the last option BTW) was for 70-95% reduction from 2010 levels by 2050 and negative emissions from 2050 through the end of the century. The fact that is even in the draft indicates there is a more radical voice emerging. As you like to point out, things are moving faster and faster. Putin used to joke about global warming but he also went along with the no-fly zone in Lybia right? Again, there's Evo Morales speaking on behalf of China+77...
Paris Draft
p.s. you are sooo right about whiners opening their yaps to insist you edit yourself into mean-ing-less-ness. Fendt Trisix FTW ; )
For sure, MEAN BUSINESS, that was a great cartoon metaphor about how a tractor gets stuck in the mud, then each of the series of bigger tractors that try to pull the previous ones out of the mud get stuck in the mud too!
However, there are no longer any realistic ways for the human species as a whole to return to using horses, without the majority of us probably not being able to survive that kind of forced collapse of civilization ... Collectively, we "no longer know how to be a teamster."
Big ass tractors of Neolithic Civilization should be retrofitted with adaptations that make them effectively become more like horses, in the senses of being more ecologically integrated ... However, that seems politically impossible at the present time, since the established systems operate through way too fraudulent financial accounting systems to be able to reconcile themselves with the natural environmental systems.
More radical opinions may be expressed by more people. However, the current systems dominated by the banksters keep on driving everything to get overall more insane, while those established system keep of suppressing alternatives, as much as they are still able to do so. The hyper-complex situation is that the only ways that any genuine alternatives are going to maybe emerge is despite the established systems attempting to continue to suppress those.
It ain't going to be linear progress! Maybe there will come some future point where some surprising breakthroughs occur ... I hope so ...
Who saved their asses from the Japanese and Germans?
Many attaboys can be fucked up by one screwup, and that screwup is Barak Obama.
I hope the day comes where we see his head on a pike.
Read this to answer your question, "Who saved their asses from the Japanese and the Germans?" https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/05/eric-margolis/who-really-won-world-w...
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/05/eric-margolis/who-really-won-world-w...
"This money flood is eroding the value of the dollar, the world's premier medium of exchange. In the past two months, the US dollar has dropped 6% against other major currencies. Frightened investors are piling into gold, now up 17% in 60 days."
Did you buy that one, too?
Russia and China both put it together in WWII. They did not sit and do nothing while we won the war for them. Russia crushed the German offensive moving into their country, surrendering land for time until it got its war manufacturing machine in order. They did a splendid job with the design of their tanks, which were way better than the crap we put out there that killed scores and scores of our tank crews. Russia crushed Japan in China. The Chinese went from farmers to very effective fighters. Don't make the mistake of underestimating either Russia or China. Name the wars we "won" since the end of WWII. China now builds all of our state of the art consumer electronics. In fact, they build nearly everything for us. Who is in the best shape now to put a war machine together? We can't even build a car without their parts. Yep, blindly yell hooray for the US! We don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. We are in more debt than the rest of the planet combined. We can't even have a war with China unless they supply us with half the parts for the war machine. What a joke the US has become, all because of greedy, self-centered, self aggrandizing elitists, as a population that once owned their country has handed all decisions to them, and sits and watches and does nothing. It will, as it always has throughout history where the population surrenders its will to its leaders, come to an end here. The "mighty" US population will sit and watch it all fall apart on the TV they bought with their credit card.
Were there any military parades or celebrations in NY, LA or Washington?
I haven't heard of any. That was the last war when the USA was on the defensive side.
What about those 406,000 Americans who died in that war?
I guess it's no longer "fashionable" to honor our fallen. Just remember what will happen to YOU and how YOU will be remembered when the US government calls YOU or your kids up to fight for "THEIR" empire. Think you'll want to fight with unbridled enthusiasm, when you don't own a single thing you have: Not your car, not your home, not even your college degree until it's paid off. You don't even own your own KIDS anymore, if the government doesn't approve of your "methods" of raising your family. Feel like you want to fight hard, and sacrifice at any cost for the nice folks running your country? How willing are you to run towards a machine gun so Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush can be elected for her/his fourth term as president?
Since Washington would not come to us, We came to you @Lvl90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqYTaKfMlbU
The traitors who have been ceding the United States of America to foreigners do not wish to Remind people that the US Only seventy years ago was 90% white and Christian. As the sayin goes, there ain't no atheists in the trenches. For those of you who've been suckled on the multicultural swill, 92% of those who fought in WWII (Americans) were white. Were they to see what has been done to this country today, they would spit on you for allowing it. In England, the Queen and David Cameron attended service at Westminister Abbey. The Oboma's plot incendiary racism: you dang dirty whites!
The Sting Theme (Joplin - The Entertainer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WxfjWnuEno (3:43)
Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union also held military parades together... In conquered Poland. Russia is walking on a thin rope. Should it fail to contain the west I see China eagerly stabbing them in the back.
I expect a new war in Afghanistan when the US troops leave it.
Afghanistan is close to China, Russia and ex-Soviet republics.
When the US leaves Afghanistan? They wont ever leave as it would mean giving up all that income from opium poppies.
Maybe you've noticed the Russians withdrew their occupation army from Europe twenty-five years ago; the American occupation army is still there. Same story in Japan and Korea.
They did not withdraw. They were kicked out. Neither did they apologize for the destruction of their repression. Withdrawal implies a voluntary act. It wasn't. Once the Poles rose up in force against their Russian masters they were forced out by world public opinion that wasn't going to stand for another repetition of Hungary in 1956 or Czechoslovakia in 1968. Hell they couldn't even pull off a successful coup inside Russia itself!
New tanks breaking down and missile systems catching fire on public display. To bad Pooty boy but "Potemkin's Village" is still a part of the world political lexicon no matter how much you wish it weren't. But then maybe they had to put up all those Stalin posters. No matter how many layers of paint you put on the façade the bloodstains of the past keep seeping through. Is there a 12 step program for fascism addiction??? Maybe you could start by finally burying Lenin's rotted corpse and stop using his mausoleum as a platform for the kind of military parades that only serve as ugly reminders to the rest of the world of blood soaked Russian imperialism.
better worry about your own country
You have a point. The Russians withdrew from many areas they once occupied. Doesn't fit the US storyline, does it? Once the US gets in it NEVER leaves. Reminds me of the old Saturday Night Live skit "The Thing That Wouldn't Leave". It's ugly, it really is.
And Vlad would never have thought of that, right?
Squid
Yeah, there was some celebration of victory day here with Mrs. M showing our daughter some videos and I thought that was pretty cool. I have seen most all of the WWII/Great Patriotic War footage so I went on Craiglist to check for free shit and low and behold I found the remnants of a garage sale for free. They had a file drawer in the pic and I need another file drawer and this was only three blocks away so I fired up the truck and went over to check it out.
Hell, that file drawer was in great shape so I was happy to load that up. Then I started looking for other stuff and I saw a pile of books and I love books so I started looking though the books. I am a numismatist but have dabbled in philatelics. I came across a book that said 1996 Commemmorative Stamp Collection. OK, that might be cool so I opened it up and guess what I found?... Yep, the actual mint set of stamps in the original packaging and nothing was wrong with them. The face value of the postage is $30.12 alone. Are you fucking kidding me?
I'm guessing this post was meant for your FaceBook page because it sure doesn't belong here. BTW - get rid of FB
Agree, SB, I got off 4 -5 yrs ago. BTW - great name!
Obviously you don't know about Mrs. M.
But Mr. M wrote fuck all about face book.
So there's your reddy.
Hey let the guy give us those insiders tips to the 'new' America. Next up he's going to tell us how he cruzed on over to the 'Barter' page of Craigslist and traded those newly discovered stamps for 2 bags of rice which totally alleviated his families hunger pangs.
The 'new' America, so reminiscent of the beginning stages of the Chairmans Cultural Revolution. Hunger, the motivational state of, coupled with lack of employment is exercising the peoples creative right-brain dominance. But the jack-boots are lying in wait.... Stay tuned.
I wish I could spend the day and share comments but I have some actionable 'Curb Alerts' that I MUST respond to after I fix the hole in the basket on my tri-wheeled bicycle.
Before writing lemon posts, you should do well to learn spelling, Manipuflation.
High and behold: "Low and behold" is spelled "Lo and behold" (no W).
Thank you. You can go back to tell us what new crazy discovery you made at Craiglist. Maybe a good-as-new pair of Nike shoes?
muslims did not participate in World War II...and did not affect the outcome of that war...why attend celebrations?
Muslims did indeed serve with entire divisions in WWII on the side of the NAZIs. The last troops defending the Chancellory were Muslims.
ignorant post
Actually, muslims did fight in WWII. There were Waffen-SS units composed of Muslims from Yugoslavia & Indonesia....but not many.
If I recall correctly, the men who defended the Chancellory were crack (meaning elite) SS volunteers from the Baltic States. They were vehemently opposed to the Soviets to the very end. They all fought to their death.
I think that the old Soviet Union had quite a few moslems, but virtue of all those central asian republics. So it's a memory for them in the particular case of this celebration.
The colonial powers (esp. France and UK) had quite a few colonial units fighting.
But your point is broadly correct.
No shit Muslims didnt participate. What good is fuckig camel agains a tank?
Obama's EBT card was denied.
Former US governments pre-2000, were abundantly aware of the dangers to the West of any kind of Russo-Chinese alliance. This was a big factor in Nixon's China approach and much other US policy over the years.
These current bozos are so full of hubris they've overlooked this. They obviously lack a world view and a clear picture of Amerika's current image overseas.
One country with the world's largest land mass, richest natural resources AND the most advanced technology + one country with the world's largest population, largest producer and exporter of manufactured goods = loads of trouble for anyone else to compete with, much less fuck with.
Obama thinks the facsistic TPPA is a method of counterbalancing this. What a pathetic lack of foreign policy strategy! He plays checkers not chess and badly at that.
I thought yesterday's Ray McGovern piece on this issue was good:
Obama’s Petulant WWII Snub of Russiahttp://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/05/08/obamas-petulant-wwii-snub-r...
Yesterday in Moscow, Putin showed Ukrainian fascists what Russian troops and tanks look like since they seem to confuse that them with rebel T72 manned by soviet veterans of Afghanistan war, because when the come down on them they would be dead before they see anything.
For example this new tank "Armata" T-14 i addition to variety of shells, shooting guided missiles through the barrel ranging up to 60 miles, attacking enemy artillery positions. AA missiles, faster (steady 60 miles per hour more in bursts), lighter and even floating in some configurations. All composite materials. Also they have active defense shield against anti-tank weapons not to mention own drones, radar and all electronic bells and whistles.
If they enter Kiev everybody would know its them and not this BS about never ending invasion of green AARP members.
Generals At War Stalingrad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TRgZ2x_MuY
Generals at War The Battle of Kursk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP-RcOkNto8
MOVIE TIP: Stalingrad (1993) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108211/?ref_=fn_al_tt_3
IMPRESSIVE SPOILERS:
Stalingrad : Battle Outside The Factory (HQ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqHzs4PtqIE
Stalingrad : Battle Inside The Factory (HQ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH2LIjAW8tw
National Geographic? That's no good. Hardly any better than BBC or CNN. They are spewing propaganda and lies in those documentaries of theirs just as BBC and CNN are doing so in their "reporting." They are painting Hitler as a total idiot and his Joint Staff as a group of extremely competent, very cleaver and unbelivably obedient servants ffs! Either they are very smart and competent and thus disobidient to the orders of the fool, or they are not. It's mutually exclusive arrangement. And from the history we know that his Joint Staff was not so obedient that would fall on a sword if Hitler told them to, that some even tried to kill him (Beck, von Stauffenberg, Tresckow, the Stülpnagels, etc.). Then some on the very highest levels of Nazi establishment were British spies like the chief of Abwehr Canaris for example.
Corporate Anglo media is spewing lies and propaganda even in their documentaries which they paint and sell as something describing "historical facts."
I know that National Geographic is a CIA propaganda machine but I think the two docu's did a fairly good job pointing out the essential factors in those massive WWII battles. It's a quick way to get acquainted with those battles but if you really want to study the subject in depth you have to go trough a lot of literature, which I did, so I am not talking as layman here. This German made Stalingrad movie from 1993 is the best Stalingrad war movie made to date so very worthwhile checking out.
Yea, you are definitely right about NT propaganda purpose, and you might be right regarding how good a job pointing out essential factors those documentaries did -- I had only opened them and saw who made them; haven't gone past that (and don't want to). But I did watch some of those Natonal Geographic documentaries regarding the subject before and did notice the lies and propaganda there -- done in an indirect and subtle way, but even more dangerous because of that. National Geographic is a corporate media arm, and whenever they can twist or spin the stories about every possible subject they can exploit for their gains (doesn't have to be about history events; natural events are susceptible to public opinion manipulations too), rest assured they will.
G. Fuck. Who didn't see this coming. Its good. Less government, more freedom. Good.
LMAO. But the point about US actually bringing together their primary geopolitical adversaries is a good one. US foreign policy since 9/11 has been a complete disaster. Don't forget the spying thing, I'm pretty sure the Chinese and the Russians along with a number of other countries have been very busy replacing and upgrading their systems to make it much more difficult to penetrate.
I envy the honor felt by Russian military troops maintaining a defensive posture against a real aggressor NATO.
Joint Mil drills w/China is an admirable checkmate move.
What took them so long?
In the miltary arena Russia is the enemy and in the trade arena China is the enemy.
Not surprising they are getting together and what a dream team they make:
Russia - Military might with second largest nuclear arsenal on the plant plus huge reserves of natural resources
China - Manufacturing and technology
One may note how super power status follows the world's manufacturing centre - UK, US and next China
I am curious why you refer to Russia and China as "the enemy".
This is the way they are treated, as enemies of the US.
Russia is obvious and the new US trade agreements are being designed to curb Chinese trade and influence.
Russia is the largest nuclear power on Earth! US is second.
http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2014/10/03/russian-nuke-sto...
"...basically come to a consensus that despite their differences over some national interests ..."
National interests differences lilke Russia having stolen 1/3 of China's territory over its history.
blah blah isolated blah blah checkmate blah blah fuckin' blah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_China
I don't see Russia on that list... more heat and noise from the rooskies and the chicoms, signifying nothing...
Obama has been a fool. His absence, joined to the lack of official commemorations in the USA (where was he?) is like saying the USA had nothing to do with winning WW2, that victory was entirely a Russian business. Which is not far off, given that the Red Army singlehandedly wiped out 80% of Hitler's troops.
Yet, the U.S lack of remembrance must be a bitter disappointment to the American vets who fought that war, some of whom were in Moscow yesterday with their old Russians pals. Thankfully, Russia did remember and welcome them.
By his absense the US was spared a greater embarrassment.
USSA greatly overrates it's accomplishments in WWII. The Eastern Front is where the war was won for Communism and Zionism and lost for European man. If there had been no Eastern Front the Anglo Americans would have easily been made the proverbial "chopped liver" .
"What American leadership fails to understand, is that by taking such a posture it is simply making others overseas feel paranoid and threatened, thus drawing them closer to each other and farther from the U.S."
I disagree. American representatives (you are showing yourself to be a disinfo agent, whether you know it or not) are likely to understand what is being accomplished and succeeding in full capacity.
By appearing incompetent, the representatives are achieving the goal of demoralizing the symbol of free enterprise.
they have seen the enemy, and he is US.
i wonder how much of "the farm" 0bamao isplanning to give away with the TPP?
Bath House could not attend the parade. He would be in violation of the no homo laws and get locked up.
Their enemy is Zionism.
No matter how far the Zionist extends his ass into the air.
Russians and Chinese aren't interested in going to bed with them.
They know Zionism is a viral disease.
They also know the Zionist don't have the guts to start a war.
So, they will watch Zionist consume Zionist with delight.
Good strategy for a bunch of goy nationalists, don't you know?
LOLOLOL>>>>>>>>>>>>.
Future 'Day=V Parades' Russian and Asian allies commemorate the defeat of American and European Nazis.
You really mean American and European Zionist don't you ?
Yeah!
The usa doesn't do the remember Pearl Harbor (December 7th) thing any longer. The usa now happily helps Japan Re-arm while sending arms and supplies to the Nazi's in Ukraine.
Now that the WWII vets are gone and as the usa becomes more Fascist by the day they want the atrocities and horrors the Fascists did during that time forgotten.
Fascism 2.0.
The United States of America is a sociopathic bully that is no longer welcome, or accepted, on the World stage. Russia, China, and India, are on the right track to disavow American Hegemony, and replace it. Once the United States of America is cornered like the rabid dog that it truly is, I hope the alliance opts to put it out of it's misery forever. Nothing in this World would please me more than to see the USA euthanized, autopsied, and placed in a jar of formaldehyde like the 'Abby Normal' brain in Young Frankenstein. The unthinking Council on Foreign Relations got America to this juncture based on their uniformed, uneducated, lack of foresight. Clearly, if the CFR had not opted for the Wolfowitz doctrine, and Americans were not led astray via CFR propaganda since the inception of the Wolfowitz doctrine, we would not be in this fine mess. Unfortunately, neocons are NOT benevolent, and Russians en masse are well aware of that.
Up your nose with a rubber hose, America!
I don't see the "..Glorious Union.." feminzed, BRA led, homo friendly armed forces being any sort of a challange to either Russia or China. The US thinks the next war will be all about its high tech and air superiority - something I think will not be the case in WWIII (which appears to be appraching sooner than expected). Russian and Chinese AF/tech are probalby at least as good as USSA's.
Good comment, but one must see Zion to really see the big picture.
The Ukraine/Syria situation, I think, provides a really clear picture of how the west has been infiltrated, and is now lead around by the short-hairs by Zion's Amongst amongst us.
I.e. the nations of the west don't compete, they are manipulated and used; The DC US especially as Zion's war dog. Though that "privilege" is passing to Europe now.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
The west is like a pizza, with each nation as a slice, the sauce as Zion and their banksters the cheese..
I agree that the Zionists are behind all this hegemony, but I have to be careful about being labelled an 'anti-semite' when I articulate that fact. In CANADA, our Gubberment is now under their thumb until we kick Steven Harper out of office entirely. Harper is a Zionist too, and I have been publically attacking Harper since 2000. Frankly, the Zionists did not like my academic research on Freud's and Breuer's _Hysteria_ thesis and I was tracked out of academia for attempting to reveal the truth about Freud & Breuer, and their historiography. What is now certain is that I will eventually beat the Zionists at their own game because I was educated by them, and they made the mistake of pissing me off in ways that I cannot disclose here on Internet. Suffice to say that when World War Three breaks out Israel will be the primary target of all out destruction while the Zionists scream racism/anti-semetic bias.
As if they ain't biased, eh.
:|
The celebrations in Moscow on the 70th anniversary of the surrender of Germany is notable for both the absence of any American presence (or even our own separate celebrations) but also for Russia's and China's failure to acknowledge the US logistical contributions in becoming the arsenal to the world without which the Red Army would have been forced back to the Urals or beyond.
Neither is their any mention that after the war, even as the Soviets and the Chinese became our implacable enemies, the US forgave the world over 90% of the debts owed us for all those ships and planes and tanks and trucks and tires and bullets and bombs they fought with, even though we could have easily used those debts as economic and political weapons that would have crushed their ability to trade with the rest of the world.
I'd suggest they pay us now with those stashes of gold they have accumulated but the assholes in Washington would just squander it bailing out the banks again. But hey if Germany has only just recently finished paying of the reparations from WWI and Greece is clamoring for WWII German reparations to cover for their decades of wasteful spending, why shouldn't we make our claims against all we provided the world by simply declaring a specific amount of the US debt paper they hold null and void?
Bottom line is Russians can't eat or make vodka out of oil and natural gas and the Chinese can't eat happy meal toys either. We can live without either but the Chinese can't keep their billion or so locked up in factories forever when we stop buying plastic junk and cheap tools at Harbor Freight.
Just as our militarized police and National Guard would be stretched thin by inner city riots, so would the Russians and even more so the Chinese. The Russian's problem is that that billion or so Chinese are right next door.
So in the meantime the world gets bombarded with propaganda about how the Russians defeated the Germans all by themselves and without China we could not have defeated Japan. Both notions are absurd on their face.
Putin had to put up the Stalin posters because the bloodstains of the past are beginning to leak through the layers of paint. Poor Putin, seeing all those red communist Chinese flags must have made his nostalgic for the hammer and sickle of the Soviet Union.
You claim "The celebrations in Moscow on the 70th anniversary of the surrender of Germany is notable for ... Russia's and China's failure to acknowledge the US logistical contributions". The transcript of Putin's speech on the Kremlin web site says otherwise:
The Great Victory will always remain a heroic pinnacle in the history of our country. But we also pay tribute to our allies in the anti-Hitler coalition.
We are grateful to the peoples of Great Britain, France and the United States of America for their contribution to the Victory. We are thankful to the anti-fascists of various countries who selflessly fought the enemy as guerrillas and members of the underground resistance, including in Germany itself.
Nazims didn't die just moved from Germany to Washington DC. They are the one behind the 'shadow government'. It's up to the American poeple to take down the traitors in Washington DC and bring back the respect and admiration US once had.
washington run by "nazis" are you that stupid ...don't answer no more incrimination needed
watch morons http://www.hellstormdocumentary.com/ and then watch this http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/
Well your cred was just shot to hell! Oh wait this is ZH lots of other irrational Jew haters in here. You'll be right at home.
Questions for those intellectually lazy and/or Lubyanka cubicle trolls on ZeroHedge.
Don't worry I'm not goint wait for or expect any serious answers. I know it's much easier for you to call names and hit the down arrow in multiple accounts.
You people need to get your heads out of your butts. At best You are exactly the same kind of people who said that Hitler sought nothing more than to restore German dignity. At worst you would behave like Hitler's SA or Dzerzhinsky's Cheka.
Sadly the West is thoroughly under the sway of its own batch of globalist tyrants, but that doesn't mean that the likes of Russia and China aren't still determined to carve out their own global empires, and they have a proven track record for ruthlessness even more brutal than the Nazis.
What? No comments or answers from Lubyanka? LOL What a shock.
Putin is a jew conspirator like the rest just because he opposes the west means nothing research the Holodomor you f***ng fascist marxist morons
Saw this on the news last night, every station had the same 1940's style propaganda spin - 'evil Russia', 'dangerous Putin' etc.
This is not journalism as I remember it, the reporters openly mocked the pride of the nation and used this comemoration to demonise the very people that fought and died for the free world.
Obama and the rest of our 'leaders' did the same by not attending, their appearance would have been an opportunity to ease tensions - clearly this is not their intent.
Putin is actual good. He's a better leader than Yeltsin. Everyone who can read and understand basic math can't deny that.
Maybe western media make Putin look like Satan, he is truelly not to Russian. As long as he helps create protection and safty to Russian, he's a good leader to them.
In the meantime, the one whom brought chaos and war to Iraq, Syria, Libya and destablized Ukraine are more like in the businesses as Satan.
Russia and China are the founding member states of The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) an intergovernmental economic and military alliance of mutual security.
Shanghai Cooperation Organization Forces:
Active personnel 5,325,000
Reserve personnel 7,675,000
Available personnel for immediate activation and Conscription 192,039,958
Total of personnel 205,039,958
The economic and numerical might of China, together with the military prowess and vast nuclear arsenal of Russia.