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Police Abduct 10 Children From A Family In Kentucky Because Of Their "Off The Grid" Lifestyle
Submitted by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,
If the government does not like the way that you are raising your kids, they will come in and grab them at any time without giving any warning whatsoever. Of course this is completely and totally unlawful, but it has been happening all over America. The most recent example of this that has made national headlines is particularly egregious. Joe and Nicole Naugler of Breckinridge County, Kentucky just had their 10 children brutally ripped away from them just because the government does not approve of how they are living their lives and how they are educating their young ones.
Let’s be very clear about this – Joe and Nicole had done nothing to violate the law whatsoever. All of their kids were happy, healthy and very intelligent. But because the control freaks running things in Kentucky got wind of their “off the grid lifestyle”, they have now had all of their children unlawfully abducted from them.
A lot of readers also lead “off the grid” lifestyles similar to what the Nauglers had been enjoying. The Nauglers own 26 acres in a remote area of Breckinridge County, and their family has been described as “extremely happy”. But despite never giving them a single warning or a single indication that anything was ever wrong, Kentucky police raided their home on May 6th. The following is how the raid was described on a website dedicated to this case…
On May 6th, 2015, Breckinridge Co. Sheriff’s officers came to their home, acting on an anonymous tip, and entered their property and home without a warrant and without probable cause. Nicole was at home with the two oldest children, while Joe was away with the others. When the officers left the home, they attempted to block the access road to the family property. Nicole and the two boys got in their car to leave the family property. The got only a short way down the road before the officers pulled Nicole over.
During this stop, sheriffs deputies took their two oldest boys from Nicole’s custody, providing her no justification or documentation to support their action. Nicole was able to contact Joe briefly by telephone, but only for a short period of time, because she needed to use her phone to record the events.
At that point, Nicole had been taken into custody for disorderly conduct (for not passively allowing the Sheriff to take her boys) and resisting arrest. Even though she is 5 months pregnant, she was slammed belly first into the cop car and bruised and scraped on both arms.
And people wonder why there is such an uproar about police brutality in this country…
How in the world can a police officer ever justify treating a pregnant woman like that? The police officer that treated Nicole like that should immediately resign. Talk about an utter disgrace. You do not ever treat a pregnant woman like that.
But this is America, where we are turning a little bit more into Nazi Germany every single day.
You can listen to audio of Nicole’s shocking arrest right here.
When Joe arrived on the scene, the police continued to act like Gestapo thugs…
Joe was able to arrange transportation to meet his wife where the stop had taken place. Joe attempted to get out of the car to speak with the officers and his wife, and to recover the vehicle Nicole had been driving. The Sheriff, with his hand on his sidearm, ordered Joe back into the car. Joe complied with that request. The sheriff informed Joe that he had every intention of making this as difficult as possible for them and that their car would be impounded, despite the fact that Joe was there onsite to recover it.
A friend, who had driven Joe to the location, got out of the car to speak with the Sheriff. She was able to convince the Sheriff to let Joe recover the vehicle. Joe also recovered Nicole’s cell phone, which had been recording audio the entire time.
The Sheriff ordered Joe to turn the remaining eight children over to Breckinridge County Sheriff’s deputies by 10:00 a.m., and threatened him with felony charges if he does not comply.
Joe did comply with the Sheriff’s order, and now their kids have been scattered by CPS among families in four separate counties…
As of now, officials have placed the children with four families in four different counties, and as of Friday morning, the parents had not spoken with them. The four families are families that CPS chose – families the Nauglers don’t know.
Shame on you Kentucky. You are supposed to be better than this.
One of the most disturbing elements of this entire incident is that Child Protective Services never visited the Nauglers a single time and never gave them any indication that anything was wrong. The following comes from Off The Grid News…
Child Protective Services never visited the home, said Ellsworth, who believes the arrests took place because of the parents’ choice of “unschooling” for their children, and because of their simple way of life that some would call backwards. The family’s Facebook page calls it a “back to basics life.” They have a garden and raise animals. Deputies apparently were concerned about whether the children’s needs were being met, but friends say they personally have no concerns — and that the children are blessed to have Joe and Nicole as their parents.
How would you like it if government thugs raided your home and took your children away because they considered your lifestyle to be “backwards”?
What in the world is happening to this country?
Like I said earlier, what happened to the Nauglers is not an isolated incident. These kinds of things are happening all over the nation. For example, just consider the abuse that one homeschooling family received in New Jersey…
Meanwhile, in New Jersey, a WND report highlights how parents were interrogated by a CPS caseworker who questioned Christopher Zimmer and his wife Nicole, “on everything from their son’s homeschool education to questions about vaccines and guns in the house.”
Michelle Marchese aggressively demanded to enter the property after asserting Christopher Zimmer Jr. was not getting a “proper education.” Police subsequently arrived and allowed Marchese to enter the home before conducting a warrantless search.
The Zimmers are now suing the CPS for $60 million in a case before the U.S. District Court in Trenton.
I very much hope that the Zimmers win that case and collect a huge monetary award.
All over the nation, CPS officials are running around acting like little dictators and trampling the law. They need the courts to send them a clear message that this is a nation where the rule of law still applies.
If we do not stand with families like the Nauglers, control freak bureaucrats will continue to harass families that have chosen to live a “basic” lifestyle all over the nation. So let’s stand with them and make this case viral all over the Internet.
And Kentucky, get your act together and send those kids back home. You are supposed to be so much better than this.
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State CPS agencies are eventually going to encounter their own "Waco" moments. It's only a matter of time.
Not to defend Kentucky or anything, but this is one of those stories that sets off multiple 'bullshit' alarms and turns out it probably is a bunch of bullshit. And 10 kids? wtf?
https://homeschoolersanonymous.wordpress.com/2015/05/08/a-brief-word-of-...
http://kathrynbrightbill.com/post/118481565656/here-are-7-surprising-thi...
Pretty sure if they started shooting these cops, stuff like this, would stop almost instantly.
.Theyre coming after you. .
Truly pathetic this site is still pumping gold & talking about the Fed as if it's some sort of government intervention.
Retards, the banks own the Fed. They decide everything it does to enrich themselves and rape you. This stupid website and its blog roll have been telling you to sell them your stocks, buy their gold , & gold mining stocks since the crisis and it still doesn't compute. None of these sites would ever suggest maybe we let anyone EXCEPT the banks control our money.
They won't talk about North Dakota's state bank either. They wouldn't dare. Why is that? It's much more stable. It pays more taxes. It earns more. It causes less inflation than letting Bank of America print 1 trillion for a currency trade.
If the rich do get a gold currency like they want they will confiscate your gold. AGAIN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey20x-VlDYQ
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Having 10 kids without ability to take care of them is just evil.
This is not your well planned off-grid living. This is 3rd world shanty town living.....it is literally a free RANGE....chickens live better than this. I bet parents make oldest 5 kids take care of the other half. Just pure neglect. No schooling.
See for yourselves
http://40.media.tumblr.com/7f6c311d203cb64cf3b4234c6432dd6f/tumblr_inlin...
http://36.media.tumblr.com/6079d003ba5df789cbdf75032ae84c61/tumblr_inlin...
http://40.media.tumblr.com/11eb314ab9d63f1437aec7f3aed3d5d7/tumblr_inlin...
Government (your taxes) are paying for these kids so parents need to be stopped in their welfare scam.
Who are you to decide what is good for their children? They could live with no refuge at all, like humans have done for HUNDREDS OF MILLENIA before, thriving in their environments. People still do, and there are tents more comfortable than houses (yurts). Regardless, you're a pathetic slave if you think the govt has a right to tell you in which environment you can or cannot raise your kids.
You are an ignorant fascist piece of shit Huxley! Who the fuck are you to decide?
We are all wards of the state.
I also notice that all the mothers are named "Nicole". Hmm.....War against Nicole perhaps.
Cole and Huxley, who the hell are you to decide how many kids someone should have? My wife and I stopped at five. We have several assholes ask us why we had five. My standard responses are either:
1. If my kids were as ugly as yours, I would have stopped at one.
2. If my kids were like your kids, I wouldn't want any more.
Keep your nose out of my decisions. I don't give a flying fuck what you decide. Your life.
Cole and Huxley, who the hell are you to decide how many kids someone should have?
Last I checked I have never decided how many kids someone else should have. As far as calling out people who have too many kids, I (like most of society) do this frequently when it comes to attention. The number is less a factor than the ability to provide for, except in cases where the number is completely egregious. Ten falls into this latter category.
The world is overpopulated already and the dregs of society are reproducing like rabbits, recipe for disaster.
The world is overpopulated already,...
Yeah if you mean that fitting the entire world into Texas is overpopulation.
Dumbass.
And these people are NOT the dregs of society, they are creating the only bulwark we have AGAINST THE DREGS OF SOCIETY.
Freedom club needs to breed harder and faster.
I commend them.
Mr. Cole, you are the only James I am embarrassed to share a name with.
Kentucky. Beautiful state.
Did the police carry banjos and make them squeal like pigs? Or was that West Virginia?
I don't know, but.... it is mitch mcconnells home state... Hmmmmmmm?????
I'd bet big money on these 10 kids vs 10 random from the inner city any day.
Furthermore, I bet these kids grow up (or would have grown up) believing in self-reliance... i.e. not thinking they can vote themselves prosperity.
Just another example of the upside down world we few remaining sensible people find ourselves in.
Rubeeeee Ridge, it happened and no one said anything.
Waco happened......same same.
TPB know and understand that for most human beings, their neighbour can be gutted/raped/pillaged/burned but will not lift a finger if they are promosed safetly.
I think with Waco and Ruby Ridge (as far back as then) they knew that the USSA population is now one giant collective lamb.
Gentler stuff:
Sequence 19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzESrhRrkTI
I appreciate your music in sequence 19 -what is that instrument called?
My comment on the rest of your post is that it is only morally justified to defend oneself, not to go on the offense against an enemy- that is God's work.
We all would probably agree on what constitutes offense.
The question, then, is what constitutes defense?
Thanks Seek, it's the Indian Flute, 7 hole, side blown.
And I agree/disagree with you. This part in Christianity about turning the other cheek is not to be take at face value at all.
But that is too deep/long a topic to discuss here.
I like this from Lao Tzu:
“The world belongs to those who let go.”
? Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching
We should just kill 10s of millions like Stalin and Mao, and these things will cease to be.
Hopefully this will be done in a Happy Camp.
If you really want to help a child, go here, this was just forwarded to me.
http://www.gofundme.com/4Laila
FLASHBACK: MSNBC commercial "Your kids do not belong to you. They belong to the collective/community"
1) You aren't entitles to have an opinion about anyone's rights, they are non-negotiable.
2) This isn't about just one man's struggle with the gov., that man's struggle will become REALITY FOR ALL
3) When conformity becomes mandatory, revolution becomes inevitable.
Wasn't this from that dumb twat that wore tampons as earrings and now owes a lot of back taxes?
Melissa Harris-Perry, yes, thought so...
When the other side starts separating Christians from their heads here, I am selling my cloak. I can be forgiven.. Peter was for the ear..
An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. - Mohandas Gandhi
Looks like the cops are the descendants of the "Deliverance" crew!
Ten is egregious? Look, I'm a prof at one of the top engineering schools in the country, whether you ask US News & World Report, Brookings, whatever the ratings are. Colleagues of mine have a dozen kids, ten, eight, eleven. In my department I'm the odd case with getting up to five. Others have one or two. All of them provide fine for their children. Several of them have children who are now profs at other schools. Who am I to tell them they were wrong?
It's not just the dregs of society reproducing. And sometimes the dregs don't reproduce. We are all praying you haven't reproduced because the world is better off with fewer statistis.
As a prof you should know better then. Not to say income means everything, but this paints a pretty clear picture of who is and isn't having kids in the US (And also the world):
http://www.statista.com/statistics/241530/birth-rate-by-family-income-in...
Fertility was highest among women with household income under 10,000 U.S. dollars annually. It was lowest, at 54.80 births per 1,000 women, for women with household incomes over 75,000 U.S. dollars annually.
A woman in a lower income country had four children as of 2011, and a woman in a high income country had 1.8 children as of 2011.
Why don't you do yourself a favor and just shut the fuck up for once?
I keep posting in the hope that one day you will respond with something vaguely interesing. Hope springs eternal.
While with you JC, we pretty much know that you will never respond with anything vaguely interesting. (Or spelled correctly, for that matter.)
I do know better. And that is why I have children. I believe the children are the future. Set them free and let them lead the way.
I also believe people should decide for themselves. Not a single faculty member I know with lots of kids makes less than $75k per year. None of their kids have lacked for anything. Larger families have to do with a little less, maybe one less iPhone or something, but we all make do.
Better to not comment and be thought a fool than to comment and remove all doubt!
You've removed any doubt again and again.
you keep working because your a goobermint paid shill
Head on over to HuffPo, I'm sure you'll find someone to fap over your establishment, pseudo-academic musings.
It would be doing us the favor.
But...hope springs eternal.
In modern developed nations kids are on the liability side of the sheet. Back in the farming days they were assets I think. I don't think anyone should tell anyone how many kids to have but they better be able to take care of them which is no small feat.
I dont think anyone should tell a ceo or professional athelte how much they make but it doesn't mean I think it's an ethical decision to make 1000 times their lowest paid employee.
Good book right here by the way.
http://www.amazon.com/Adam-Smith-Change-Your-Life/dp/1591846846/ref=sr_1...
So shoot yourself.
"Dregs of society"
You mean, like attorneys?:
https://www.boston.com/community/moms/articles/2011/09/15/sperm_donor_ha...
THAT is fucking sick and evil shit. Sperm banks should be required to screen for sociopaths.
The whole notion that "society" (whom I would not in most cases trust to breathe on their own) has any legitimate say in what I or anyone else does (as long as it is consensual and no human is being harmed) is specious.
I have a very strict policy of not allowing anyone stupider than myself to have any sort of influence on my behavior, decisions, or actions.
Or, as I like to lead with...if you get to have a say in an aspect of my life, what do I get to decide on in your life? It's only fair, a "compromise" if you will.
ETA: It's funny, the overpopulation meme comes from the same think tanks that came up with the "Climate Change" meme. When Gates, Soros, Murdoch, Kissinger, Turner or any of the other "compassionate fuckheads" volunteer to euthanize themselves for the greater good, I will believe their sincerity.
"When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!"
The only reason the world is overpopulated is because:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkCEOSgLRt4
If the world is overpopulated then STFU and go kill your family and yourself.
"Last I checked I have never decided how many kids someone else should have...except in cases where the number is completely egregious. Ten falls into this latter category."
James_Cole, your comments are those of a confused, beat-down fuckstick. LOL. I forgive you, but you really need to shut the fuck up until you pull it together.
Children belong to their parents, but in this version of ZWO "freedum" they belong to the totalitarian police state and the pedophiles at the CPS.
Go figure
My brother had a kid with a chick named Nicole in high school. 18 years later he was finally free.
"Nicole" had a couple more kids with a couple more dudes and lived pretty well on the child support until she was in her early 40's and the child support dried up. Never did hear anything after that...
Parents make the final decision for their own children, not the Government. If the parents cannot decide, the Father makes the final decision. This is a the law of GOD himself, that humanity followed for thousands of years until liberal Judges started disobeying this in the 1960's.
Those days are gone dude. Soon, the government will tell you whom you have to marry, a woman or a man, how you have to live your life and what job you are capable of doing (in their opinion), how many kids you can have or whether you need to have your dick chopped off because the government decided your life will be better if you are a transgender.
When you register birth, you sign over your right to the kids over to government. That's how they're able to take them away. Remember, you're slaves and slaves can't own property. That's why you can have a house but not the land it stands on. You can have a car, but not be allowed to drive it without papers, you need to be be permitted to marry, permitted to have the privilege of raising cannon fodder for the corporations, but only as long as you comply with the slave masters fully.
But this is the land of the free, and I can still choose what color iFruit gadget I want.
Moar freedom!
Freedom to be able to afford any trendy gadget through product tiering! Yaaaah!
Here's your freedom...
https://plus.google.com/116531699502898050740/posts/hh2dMtySZQb
Seems now you have to find a midwife that can shut the fuck up. Never register your newborn or get a SSN. Homeschool. Raise a real human.
"Parents make the final decision for their own children, not the Government. If the parents cannot decide, the Father makes the final decision. This is a the law of GOD himself,"
Do not blaspheme. What if the father is incestuous? Is it still "God's law" that he should make the final decision?
Revolting.
"incestuous" Like pedophile Bill Clinton or homosexual Obama ? Fuck you feminist idiot.
That is indeed what the Bible says. Doesn't mean it's not bullshit.
God Almighty Himself raped Mary, resulting in an un-wanted pregnancy and in her having a bastard son named Jesus H Christ. A moron named Joseph, came along later and married her(fucking idiot)...BTW , Joseph and Mary are common middle eastern names, as well as Matthew, Mark, Luke and John...not.
"Parents make the final decision for their own children, not the Government. If the parents cannot decide, the Father makes the final decision."
Who made the final decision for Andrea Yates' children, Andrea or God? Just curious.
If they are happy, well fed and have a roof over their heads they are doing better than most under government 'protection'.
You can only be OK with this if you trust your government. ?????
The roof over their heads is several blue traps strung together. The walls are small sapling sticks about 6" apart. I am not sure how long the family has lived there, but I highly doubt they lived there during the past Kentucky winter without freezing to death. The first thing the mom did after her arrest was start a Go Fund Me.
I believe in a parents right to raise their children as they see fit, but I am calling BS on this one. It seems like a stunt to raise money.
How many kids living with parents in their cars or under bridges because they are homeless have the government stolen?
Crickets....
Now THIS adds some much needed perspective. Wow. Yea, WTH!!!!
+1000
huxley is right on that.
see pictures, childs to get ebts and so long. living like niggers in africa.
not single familly on earth should make more than 3 kids anyway.
end of discuss.
Who are you to decide what is good for their children? They could live with no refuge at all, like humans have done for HUNDREDS OF MILLENIA before, thriving in their environments.
...because how people lived thousands of years in the past and how people live now is directly comparable.
https://www.allianz.com/v_1339500579000/media/press/photo/things/weltbev...
Cole, as well as being assholes, you and Huxley are way wrong on this. Land of the free? Home of the brave? You are a pair of authoritarian fascist fuckwits.
Then we better go to Africa, Asia, and South America and stealing all their children.
You're a stupid fucking piece of dogshit
Africa is an awesome place to be, can't wait to go back!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwouxaGXn5s
And that chart looks sustainable to you? When does it stop? What stops it if all of the natural controls are removed?
No chart that looks like that, stays that way. The other side of the curve is going to be rough.
Plus 1000 Ayreos, I suspect this facist has no children of his own. If he does, they probably don't have any mind of their own.
Okay, so where do you draw the line?
Or do you not draw any line and is a kids life entirely at the mercy and whim of the parents?
Regardless of where the line is drawn, everyone will always be at the mercy and whim of others (their parents, neighbors, the government, etc). The question here is whether children should be more at the mercy of their parents or of the government. The question is basically the same as the question of whether power should be more or less centralized in government vs. decentralized in individuals.
Personally, I opt with children being at the mercy of their parents to the greatest degree possible, and minimal government control. Of course it's impossible for parents to ever have full control over their children just as nobody is ever in full control over themselves or anything in life.
The reason I side with this position is quite simple. I am an individual, not part of the government, and don't want to be controlled by them. I want to be able to raise my own kids how I want without the government stealing them, and I feel threatened by the fact that the government promotes some things I disagree with and dislikes some things I believe in.
There are at least two positions in opposition to mine:
1) That of those in power/control/government who want to retain and increase their power over subjects like me.
2) Other subjects like me who don't value their freedom (because they don't happen to need it, they don't feel oppressed under existing rules) who have been indoctrinated to believe things like "human life is special", "child abuse is wrong", "we/the government should step in to save children", "we're eliminating abuse and making the world a better place", etc.
Those in group #1 above like those in group #2 as they give them more power. Those in group #2 occasionally slip out into the freedom camp when they have a personal run in with the state and feel the oppression first hand.
I can sympathize with group #1, but I loathe group #2. These are the sheeple, the unthinking herd, the mob mentality, the moralizers, the totalitarian wannabes, the old ladies with nothing better to do in life but to complain about how their neighbors are raising their children and try to get them taken away.
Many of the North American Indians live in probably worse circumstances.
Looks like the Tylers dropped the ball royally here. Looks like they're some backwoods scumbags treating their kids like shit and living in filth. No sympathy from me at all.
City boy huh.
Read the linked articles. They lived in squalor and were robbing their neighbors. Fuckheads to busy looking for heroes to verify shit...
Fuckhead TOO busy TO spell correctly
but right still about subject...
I read the linked pages. You are a lying sack of shit.
I read the linked articles. The parent's "crime" seems to be be not having an opulent enough lifestyle, and not having a Social Security mark of the beast assigned to the children. Fascists and collectivists can fuck off and die.
Read better, asshole. They have LAKES on their enormous property. And they were accused by one neighbor to be "stealing water". How does that work? They live off grid, and there are a dozen ways to procure water on such a large acreage. It's clearly a neighbor dispute of some sort. That said, it has nothing to do with their ability to raise their kids, which no one else should concern themselves with. They have 10 children and 2 of them are almost adults. They know how to take care of them.
"Read better, asshole. They have LAKES on their enormous property."
I read 26 acres with a pond. 26 acres is not enormous. Maybe we're reading two different things.
You are so credulous. What a dimwit.
And it looks like your parents dropped the ball when they raised you too.
Read the linked articles. They lived in squalor and were robbing their neighbors. Fuckheads to busy looking for heroes to verify shit...
If the linked articles are correct then yes:
The said "cabin" is squalor
They were stealing from, and threatening their neighbor with guns
They have no water of their own
IMHO there is no such thing as off grid living without your own water, if this is true, fuck those people, they are too stupid to have kids.
If not true then a gross miscarriage of justice happened and heads should roll. I am not there and I do not believe everything I read and jump to a knee jerk reaction based on what I read on a blog (even ZH these days)
Who the fuck knows except those around them. Folks here need to calm the fuck down. The bottom line is, unless you are there, you don't know the details.
But that being said, I always trust the government version the least.
Nihlist read it in the papers, and the papers are an unbiased and professional source of neutral information that serve the public interest so it must be true. right? /sarc
Look, when the Big Flush occurs, remember that sociopaths will ALWAYS seek the levers of power. They are as much a fact of life as bacteria and viruses are.
It's the simpletons like Nihlist, when their population gets out of control with respect to the general population, that act like the growth agar for these fucktards.
Maybe people here are talking about addressing the wrong problem during the Big Flush? Maybe we should start salting away tar and feathers for the big event.
The way things are trumped up and the way CPS profits from ripping apart families, it's really hard to take any of this seriously.
"Son, go get my gun" isn't a threat, it's a warning, more of a fuck off than anything else. Was a gun gotten? Was a gun pointed at anyone? Was anyone shot? No blood no foul. And "stealing water" when everyone is on wells is pretty bullshit as well. Might as well scream at you for breathing my air.
Now what I have seen is accounts from those around them of how they basically beg for a living. How they had a 300 some off sqft toolshed they used as a "cabin" until they returned it and wintered in a van. The pics of current housing claim to be in-progress.
Are the kids sick? Are they malnourished? Are they suffering from serious injuries? Nope, not from what I can tell. They have a fish pond but don't eat from it and they have a well but don't drink from it because it needs to be tested and they don't have the funds to do that. They haul water, who cares if it's not running water? They have trash... so the fuck what? This wasn't pristine land to begin with and they've only been there a short time.
From what I understand, this project of theirs is an attempt to escape renting and stupidity that is an extreme burden with all those damned kids. These are not rich people, they are basically starting with nothing. This land is a whopping 60k or so, and they are looking at paying it off in 10 years. for fucks sake, just leave them alone
""Son, go get my gun" isn't a threat"
It is if he's trespassing on someone else's property when he says that, which may be the case. I couldn't figure out who was trespassing when that happened.
Man, you're right. The media would never impugn the character of an individual or group to appeal to those riding the moral hobby horse cavalry.
What were we thinking.
Moral Hobby horse!!! Classic and well said....
Looks like you don't possess enough intelligence to successfully camp one night in the middle of nowhere let alone live off the grid
Read the linked articles. They lived in squalor and were robbing their neighbors. Fuckheads to busy looking for heroes to verify shit...
NZ, I am with you. Although I don't know because I am not there. If reports are true that they did not have a water source of their own, then all the fucking grandstanding about liberty, camping and off grid living is bullshit. Water first, everything else second.
As I sit on my porch with no neighbors for miles and can hear my own running spring just 20 feet away. Fuck those people if they did not have a water source and ten kids. If they did and I am wrong then I appologize now.
Do the Amish get the same treatment? No, not by a long shot. I rest my case.
About that "3rd world shanty town living...."
Two words: Obamaville Tent (the one word version get you Eric Schmidt BS propaganda)
https://www.google.com/search?q=obamaville+tent&hl=en&sa=X&oi=image_resu...
If CPS wanted to actually "help" children, there is no shortage of children that need help now, if they're really lazy they could always just drive to the nearest Wally World parking lot.
Exactly. CPS = satanist pedophiles
You have no evidence or proof that the photographs are of a living quarters. In fact it looks like an empty storage shed.
Likely ass covering by the sherrif who should have sent one deputy to hang out with them for a day and just observe the routine.
...but if it was a living space?
but, but , but, but...!
Annonymous complaint.
No warrant.
Illeagal confinement.
Children seized and transported.
Absolutely no evidence of the potential for immediate harm to the children. This smacks of the genocidal treatment of indigenous peoples when in cultural conflict with their more "progressive and enlightened" political masters. The kidnapping of generations of native children in North America to "properly educate them", the removal of "mixed children" in Australia to breed out the impurities, yeah, the seeds of statist tyranny have taken root everywhere.
We have a very long row to hoe.
Proof:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3074746/Surrounded-garbage-kept-...
Be sure to watch the video the mom made of their outdoor "kitchen".
These people weren't living off the grid like the Amish. The parents had gone full Mosquito Coast.
There's also an article about the initial police incident (posted below as well) shows why this all happened to begin with.
http://www.kmov.com/story/29019229/off-grid-couple-faces-hearing-to-rega...
The Nauglers have depended upon neighbors' private wells or municipal hookups for their drinking water, but a confrontation on Sunday prompted a criminal summons for Joe Naugler on a charge of menacing.
“(Naugler) was turned down for the water request and asked to leave the property,” the summons read. “He then said to his son ‘get the pistol out of the glove compartment box.'”
There you go folks, your freedom fighter 'back to the land' hero in action.
Sure you might disagree with some of James Coles previous statements (I agree with him for the most part) you can not disagree with this. The fucking parents do not even have a well or spring, they mooch water off their neighbors. This is not self sufficient living. This is white trash mooching. I know folks who live this same lifestyle and respect them, but they built a cabin with solar, carry water from a sping on their property and have 3 kids who they do not ask for handouts for.
If true, this is amateur mooching.
Serious mooching is everyone in, or associated with, government.
I'm pretty sure hell has frozen over, we have divided by zero successfully and pigs are now flying because I agree, for the first time in recorded history, with James Cole on this one.
I provide my family's meat supply by trapping. Putting meat on the table for a family of three for a year is HARD WORK. Add in vegetables, sugaring and breads - and its a full time, year round job.
10 kids? Get real.
The man was a check forger and could not even provide his family with their own water.
I hate the government, but a man needs to be a man. He needs to be a provider. In my book, if you can't put water on the table - you aren't much of a man.
Go ahead - downvote a man who kills and prepares his family's meat by hsis own hand, and has done so for years.
The fact of the matter is that things are rarely, if ever, black and white.
You do well for your family by trapping and feeding them.
If we are to believe the things written about him, this man still does provide for his family- although we all have differing opinions as to the efficacy of his methods.
People learn by doing, and I think it is likely that this guy is trying his best to improve his family's lot in life.
A man does his best with what the good lord gave him.
I'm sorry, but I just can't bring it to myself to downvote a man that kills and prepares his family's meat with his own hands and has done so for years.
That said, I don't think anyone here considers these people to academic scholars. But true principals demands that we address the issue at hand, regardless of whether or not we think the victims are morons.
+1
Then tell us all, wise one, who (or what entity) gets to decide how these children should be raised?? You?? U.S. gubmint??
Who told your parents how to raise you, genius?
MeatTrapper never said anything about who should raise the kids. The fucking Pinot is WATER. If you city folks do not understand that, I don't know what to tell you. They could not provide for their families most basic needs without mooching. Do you want them as neighbors.
I'll agree with this. If the man can't keep it in his pants, then he should at least be able to provide the basic essentials for his children.
That said, this WILL be used as a stepping stone for the Party to come into other homes, and in series of very gentle gradations, lower the bar on the definition of "providing" until we wake up one day and our children truly are state property, loaned out to the biological parents with the precondition that they "never rock the boat".
In fact, I am afraid that we are already there.
The parents get to decide how they are raised. The parents do not get to steal water from others to do it.
Taking water from other peoples wells is no different than buying it with EBT cards.
Providing for yourself does not involve other peoples property.
F'A right MT. What fucking moron tries to raise ten kids without water? I had to take a break for second just now to kill a raccoon in the chicken coop. That's how I live. But I don't beg/steal water from people. If you live in an urban/suburban situation you really don't get it. My home has been added onto for over 200 years from the original log cabin. Now it has a sauna, 3 baths, etc... But it was built just feet from a spring that runs 24/7/365. The well I only dug to ifrigate the crops. All the water my family consumes comes from that spring, thankfully now electricity pumps it throughout my home, if if didn't... I have plenty of buckets and a kickass spring house for cooling. Urbanites don't get this, without water you have nothing.
"Urbanites don't get this, without water you have nothing."
That my friend, is a lesson that must be learned the hard way. I fear many will learn it when it's too late. You can do without electricity, without food - but doing without water is like doing without air. Water is essential to life on so many levels.
Providing water is step #1.
All people need to do is take a look at California. Water is the most scarce resource. People will one day kill over water. To bring 10 children into the world and not be able to put a drink of water in their mouths is criminal.
All I know is that sending the kids off to foster homes to be molested/raped is not going to improve their lot in life.
Nope, but think of all the money it will provide for the psychological industry!
Broken chi...windows, anyone?
Another retard using one murky detail to profess judgement. Which part of "they have lakes on their property" did you not get? Let me guess, perhaps you didn't read the whole information and professed judgement the second you found someone complaining about something in this case. Great job. If they can raise and feed 10 kids, some to almost adulthood, they can easily spend the few hundred bucks for a static filtration device for their own water. Even if they somehow couldn't at the moment, and also couldn't catch rain water, and none of the multiple water sources on their terrain were drinkable (yeah, right), even then the situation could be temporal and the neighbor is an asshole for complaining about "stolen" water. They are NOT living in a desert and the guy wasn't syphoning off a river with a dozen cistern trucks.
"the neighbor is an asshole for complaining about "stolen" water."
wtf?
Whatever the case, those look like 10 very healthy and happy kids.
That's what all kids would look like if the govt minded its own fucking business.
Those kids would be dead of dehydration if the father wasn't threatening neighbors to get water.
As yet an unproven allegation.
One story says gun, another says knife.
Unproven allegations. Children seized.
Investigation (PR Campaign) to follow.
This is the pattern of statist tryanny; the process is what garantees our Liberties or cements our subjugation.
Anyone who knows anything about rural living can tell that these are animal enclosures and a storage barn. You're full retard.
Your argument is against welfare, not the parents. How many kids would they have had wihtout the economic imbalances created by The State and it's ritualistic theft for vote buying program (READ:welfare?)
Similarly, how many banks would have levered up without the various corporate welfare vehicles such as the FHA, Fanron, The Fed, and FDIC, to name a few?
There it is for you in bright living color, AldousHuxley, the face of pure evil. You see tyrants like this psychopath AldousHuxley always see themselves as trying to "help" people. But in reality they are evil control freaks who would impose their will on everyone "for their own good" of course. Fortunately there is a God who will reveal the secrets of men's heart and then dispatch of the AldousHuxley's of the world to the lake of fire forever!
Fifty, the proper term for this is:
"Protecting them to death."
It was a popular form of expiration last century, and looks like this century will exceed those numbers.
Remember, it's a privilege to have your head beat in, your children stolen, your dog/kitten stomped. You should be grateful they care so much!
/s just in case it's not evident.
They didn't provide a nintendo Wii for the kids, child abuse!
we debate for years the economic and ecologic impact of an oil pipeline..abduct children with force from a family only takes a phone call, or so it seems..no prior investigation of this family or what impact taking children has on the population of this state..if they were same sex partners could this have happened???
You are an idiot, anyone who lives on a farm can clearly see that these are their animal enclosures and barns. If this was there house they all would have frozen to death last year.
Having even ONE kid and plugging him into the EVIL SYSTEM is just EVIL.
To all you Lefties criticizing this family: I thought you wanted a sustainable, low carbon footprint world- this family exemplifies that utopia you want. They probably grow their own food, raise their own animals, don't use up shitloads of gas on their yuppy vacations or doing the soccer mom thing with their kids in every activity available. What is it Lefties with your hate of independent-minded people? Penis envy maybe - like what your icon Mayor Bloomberg obviously suffers greatly from.
I have 5 kids and evey day I am sad I didnt start earlier and have more. I could go on and on about why each of my kids is awesome (1: my 9th grader 4.0 GPA student is prepping for his AP exams). Huxley, you make me sick.
There are limited resources on the earth. You are a moron.
Another noob genius who brags about inventing the wheel.
I would suggest you go back to watching CNBC and GMA. You will not find any of us loony types there (hahaha).
CPS abducting and 'disappearing' the children.........:
http://newsok.com/missing-78-children-from-oklahoma-department-of-human-...
Living on Jeffrey Epstein's Pedophile Fantasy Island, or some similar hell I reckon.
This guy has left this same comment all over zerohedge, almost verbatium. He is a troll and paid hack. Martin Armstrong; is that you?
it does indeed seem that many of the articles on this site take a false premise and run with it...
<<< Truly pathetic this site is still pumping gold & talking about the Fed as if it's some sort of government intervention.>>>
The .gov is the enabler of the banks and the fed. How about that genious?
Umm excuse me dumb cunt, this story is about the kidnapping of 10 children by government hacks not gold or mining ... I repeat dumb cumt .
This is the same thread you posted on another article. What a lazy fuck
YOU FUCKING MORON....
Who pimps for "the banks" asshole?
IT'S THE 'STATE' shitferbrains.
HOW EXACTLY DID "The banks" manage to pull this off?
IT'S THE STATE YOU PATHETIC POS.
F OFF.
All these children have birth cert so why are they getting upset when the owners of the children come and get them , if you sell them to the state , you do not own them its called a contract read it.
@ Albitdodgie'
Spot on. The Bankrputcy of & Banking Emergency Act of 1933 by the Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC made sure to that.
You own nothing & are all Slaves. The birth certificates / souls are securitized Bonds traded on the world makets & used as collateral to pay back the debt from the Bankruptcy of 1933. American do not own & have absolutely no Allodoial Title.
I'm not so sure. I suspect that whoever put the sheriff up to this kidnapping would love to have seen a firefight. The media would spin it as an excuse to conduct mass gun confiscation.
We can't have slaves going off plantation.
This story smells funny but, if this is happening, they should not be surprised when they do take a few bullets to the face....
The revolt has to be in mass to stop these sociopaths
Kentucky is a corney hole dump where Mitch McConnell is Obola best buddy and Rand Paul spends more time at the wailing wall then protecting our border. F them and Kentucky. The state morons care mre about basketball than liberty. Retards.
even the southerns know Kentucky is a backward state.
Seriously, go fuck yourself.
Q: Hows your mother and your sister?
A: She's fine.
My bad, I was thinking Louisiana.