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Police Abduct 10 Children From A Family In Kentucky Because Of Their "Off The Grid" Lifestyle
Submitted by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,
If the government does not like the way that you are raising your kids, they will come in and grab them at any time without giving any warning whatsoever. Of course this is completely and totally unlawful, but it has been happening all over America. The most recent example of this that has made national headlines is particularly egregious. Joe and Nicole Naugler of Breckinridge County, Kentucky just had their 10 children brutally ripped away from them just because the government does not approve of how they are living their lives and how they are educating their young ones.
Let’s be very clear about this – Joe and Nicole had done nothing to violate the law whatsoever. All of their kids were happy, healthy and very intelligent. But because the control freaks running things in Kentucky got wind of their “off the grid lifestyle”, they have now had all of their children unlawfully abducted from them.
A lot of readers also lead “off the grid” lifestyles similar to what the Nauglers had been enjoying. The Nauglers own 26 acres in a remote area of Breckinridge County, and their family has been described as “extremely happy”. But despite never giving them a single warning or a single indication that anything was ever wrong, Kentucky police raided their home on May 6th. The following is how the raid was described on a website dedicated to this case…
On May 6th, 2015, Breckinridge Co. Sheriff’s officers came to their home, acting on an anonymous tip, and entered their property and home without a warrant and without probable cause. Nicole was at home with the two oldest children, while Joe was away with the others. When the officers left the home, they attempted to block the access road to the family property. Nicole and the two boys got in their car to leave the family property. The got only a short way down the road before the officers pulled Nicole over.
During this stop, sheriffs deputies took their two oldest boys from Nicole’s custody, providing her no justification or documentation to support their action. Nicole was able to contact Joe briefly by telephone, but only for a short period of time, because she needed to use her phone to record the events.
At that point, Nicole had been taken into custody for disorderly conduct (for not passively allowing the Sheriff to take her boys) and resisting arrest. Even though she is 5 months pregnant, she was slammed belly first into the cop car and bruised and scraped on both arms.
And people wonder why there is such an uproar about police brutality in this country…
How in the world can a police officer ever justify treating a pregnant woman like that? The police officer that treated Nicole like that should immediately resign. Talk about an utter disgrace. You do not ever treat a pregnant woman like that.
But this is America, where we are turning a little bit more into Nazi Germany every single day.
You can listen to audio of Nicole’s shocking arrest right here.
When Joe arrived on the scene, the police continued to act like Gestapo thugs…
Joe was able to arrange transportation to meet his wife where the stop had taken place. Joe attempted to get out of the car to speak with the officers and his wife, and to recover the vehicle Nicole had been driving. The Sheriff, with his hand on his sidearm, ordered Joe back into the car. Joe complied with that request. The sheriff informed Joe that he had every intention of making this as difficult as possible for them and that their car would be impounded, despite the fact that Joe was there onsite to recover it.
A friend, who had driven Joe to the location, got out of the car to speak with the Sheriff. She was able to convince the Sheriff to let Joe recover the vehicle. Joe also recovered Nicole’s cell phone, which had been recording audio the entire time.
The Sheriff ordered Joe to turn the remaining eight children over to Breckinridge County Sheriff’s deputies by 10:00 a.m., and threatened him with felony charges if he does not comply.
Joe did comply with the Sheriff’s order, and now their kids have been scattered by CPS among families in four separate counties…
As of now, officials have placed the children with four families in four different counties, and as of Friday morning, the parents had not spoken with them. The four families are families that CPS chose – families the Nauglers don’t know.
Shame on you Kentucky. You are supposed to be better than this.
One of the most disturbing elements of this entire incident is that Child Protective Services never visited the Nauglers a single time and never gave them any indication that anything was wrong. The following comes from Off The Grid News…
Child Protective Services never visited the home, said Ellsworth, who believes the arrests took place because of the parents’ choice of “unschooling” for their children, and because of their simple way of life that some would call backwards. The family’s Facebook page calls it a “back to basics life.” They have a garden and raise animals. Deputies apparently were concerned about whether the children’s needs were being met, but friends say they personally have no concerns — and that the children are blessed to have Joe and Nicole as their parents.
How would you like it if government thugs raided your home and took your children away because they considered your lifestyle to be “backwards”?
What in the world is happening to this country?
Like I said earlier, what happened to the Nauglers is not an isolated incident. These kinds of things are happening all over the nation. For example, just consider the abuse that one homeschooling family received in New Jersey…
Meanwhile, in New Jersey, a WND report highlights how parents were interrogated by a CPS caseworker who questioned Christopher Zimmer and his wife Nicole, “on everything from their son’s homeschool education to questions about vaccines and guns in the house.”
Michelle Marchese aggressively demanded to enter the property after asserting Christopher Zimmer Jr. was not getting a “proper education.” Police subsequently arrived and allowed Marchese to enter the home before conducting a warrantless search.
The Zimmers are now suing the CPS for $60 million in a case before the U.S. District Court in Trenton.
I very much hope that the Zimmers win that case and collect a huge monetary award.
All over the nation, CPS officials are running around acting like little dictators and trampling the law. They need the courts to send them a clear message that this is a nation where the rule of law still applies.
If we do not stand with families like the Nauglers, control freak bureaucrats will continue to harass families that have chosen to live a “basic” lifestyle all over the nation. So let’s stand with them and make this case viral all over the Internet.
And Kentucky, get your act together and send those kids back home. You are supposed to be so much better than this.
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The Punks That Bully.
Where is Rand, you know, the Libertarian-ish Senator from Kentucky running for President, on this story?
There is one - and only one - cure for this.
There is one - and only one - cure for this.
"7.62 Full Metal Jacket . . ."
2800 fps is too fast.
My preference would be 0-850rpm. Milwaukee Magnum Hole Shooter.
"There is one - and only one - cure for this."
Yep. Stop patronizing your natural predators.
Every other animal on the planet knows enough to avoid that which seeks to harm them.
Humans? We erect statues and monuments to ours. Worship and mythologize them. And they keep cheerfully killing and feeding on us.
So it goes.
Civil trial by Common Man and, um, Mousolini Tightrope?
To give all Parties time to ponder The End.
breedtards
Frontrunners.
But do they deserve this? I don't believe you believe that.
Some or all of those kids could be getting beaten and/or molested as we type. Or brianwashed.
Families with 10 children living off grid is pure shit, as we speak. But in our ZH (near) future dimension they are frontrunners. Do they know that? No, of course not. But when God is dead, and people playing God in our daily life, any suggestion is welcome.
This whole article is a mess. Both sides are fucked. Statist pigs breaking up a family without legal authority (not a lawyer but I assume that falls under the 'no warrant' bit) on one side. Controlling parents and idiot kentucky valley breeders on the other (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1005296119482265.1073741859.47... is where theyre raising 10 kids).
And then the article just compounds everything as it reads like it was written by a family friend. Seriously, whats with the freakout focused on how they treated a pregnant woman? Its ok to treat other people like that but just not pregnant women?? If a cop actually has a reason to treat a human like that (ie they are putting other people at risk in the immediate term), he has the same right to treat a woman like that. Clearly in this case he should not be man handling any person like that.
Jed Clampett, Jethro, Elly Mae and Daisy Mae wouldn't make it in this Big Brudder day and age. They'd be locked up as terrists, failure to Obey the Messiah.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beverly_Hillbillies
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3074746/Surrounded-garbage-kept-...
Thanks for sharing that, sheep.
Daily Mail is a good case study of how the corporate media frames debates, poisons public opinion with preferential bias to a targeted viewpoint. Then this method is used to manufacture consent for all sorts of noxious laws that normal humans would be repulsed by.
It's a great case study of manufactured opinion and you are a great case study of a simpleton who falls for it hook, line, and sinker.
I had to come back to add that I sure hope they get this resolved quickly. Best wishes for the family.
"All over the nation, CPS officials are running around acting like little dictators and trampling the law. They need the courts to send them a clear message that this is a nation where the rule of law still applies."
To quote Roy Batty:
"I had in mind something a bit more - radical..."
Not that I am condoning the police action one bit, but seriously, for a 'back to basics' family $60million???
Not that I am condoning the police action one bit, but seriously, for a 'back to basics' family $60million???
Are you serious! For what those PIGS did (and I mean that in every sense of the word) that family deserves $120 million!
I don't think you get my reasoning.... they want a back to basics lifestyle as in IMO what they are implying is that money or not that much is needed for the lifestyle they want to teach their numerous children, yet they seek a massive and yes in my view it is massive payment for terrorists abducting their children allegedly without reason.
Why if they are so 'back to basics' do they want this massive payout, surely money is not needed in the lifestyle they are teaching their children
The principle of the matter should be all that is required to demand restitution from the police department and NOT a huge payout
That PRINCIPLE is more likely to get things done than asking for millions of dollars and fail
Read the article again. Or actually, for the first time.
The KY family isn't suing CPS. The NJ family is.
You lack foresight Racer.
Consider this scenario. This is what I would do.
I would take my 60 million, with about a third left after taxes and atty fees and I would buy 10 million in gold coins and 10 million in silver coins.
At market prices that would be 8000 gold coins, and about 550,000 silver coins.
Then bury them, and wait.
Wait for the Big Enema.
That shack and lifestyle will do them well and they should survive it just fine.
Then I would take some of that coinage and buy up ALL of the land around for miles, and hire starving consumers as labor to build my manor house, out of stone, with a moat. And I would have hundreds of consumers in servitude, building my post-energy, post-dollar fuedal empire.
And become a lord in post-modern America.
About as back to basics as it gets.
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In my little home town, just the other day, I ran into a gal who was building a house with her husband, so while it was being built, they were living in a trailer/motorhome, on their own property.
I immediately thought that must be a blast for the kids!
Not so much for the parents, as according to our bylaws in our town, CAS came around to make sure they 3 or less kids in the trailer.
I said, "Pardon?"
This shit is happening all over.
When is it going to be the time, to start thinking about the time, that it'll be the time to start pushing back, hard?
And how hard will you push back?
•?•
V-V
Two step approach
Fire gun rounds in the air, watch them flock off your property for trespassing.
Abduct their children and sell them for child labor abroad. Watch how the tables turn 180 degrees.
Ah turn the Tables. I hadn't thought of that.
I've met some military people and yeah I think they are trained and bad-asses. And in general I think they have conservative values or they would never last. And they have this rule about not interfering with Bank Leaders, Lobbyist in Washington DC, or Politicians in VICHY DC.
But there is this other side that travels to exotic lands, meets exotic people, and kills them.
The Black side where they enjoy the job, get addicted to adventure....
Aside from Bankers Jumping from Buildings or committing, Seputku....
There is no indication that Bad-ass Trained Americans take their country seriously. One guy actually told me his younger brother was a bad ass and if it came down to it he could make someone disappear.
Well Fine. What are they all waiting for? Retirement?? No, they are caught in a Relationship with Powerful People they never meet. Somehow they respect Power.
We have too many Lobbyist, Lawyers, Bankers, Free Trade Negotiators, People that act like they are Royalty and can pass laws to tell us how to live and think.
Anyway maybe falling off roofs is a good clean accident.
Get used to it.
The Nazis are kidnapping all the children once again? I hate it when they do that, but it's what Nazis do, along with jailing grannies, killing and eating puppies and other family pets, and smashing all known pretty flowers and flora. Hell, they even outlawed apple pie and hated baseball for God sake.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
http://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-first-soviet-government-was-mostly-je...
http://forward.com/the-assimilator/159051/a-jew-in-maos-china/
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=160
WTF does any of the Jew bashing have to do with PIGS taking a family's kids? Get a life . . . .
It's calld Marxism or Statism... Jewism!
It's calld Marxism or Statism... Jewism!
Yeah, well maybe it's also just power hungry cops/CPS with fucked up moral compasses . . . . and I'll be the first to put blame on Zionists and Talmudist Jews when it's deserved. Not all Jews are Zionists or Talmudists and the entire group shouldn't be branded with the same iron. That's like saying all Christians are the same as the crazy evangelical Zionist tools (e.g. John Hagee and friends).
Not quite dickweed wang.
The depth of degeneracy known to Jews is pretty much inconceivable by most. Anything that reeks of Globalism or Statism I lay at the feet of the International tribe.
Anything that reeks of Globalism or Statism I lay at the feet of the International tribe.
I would not disagree with your statement. My point was/is with any group there are some who don't go along with the BS promulgated by the rest of the group so it is unfair to paint an entire group with one brush.
I am not a defender of the negative activities of the Jews, I'm just pointing out that they seem to be dragged into every problem that pops up and sometimes it is not correct to tag the entire group for the activities of a part of that group, even if it is a substantial part (e.g. not all are participating or condoning those activities).
The same kind of thing is happening with Muslims in that there are some crazy's out there that adhere to that religion and with some (many?) people in the "west" the entire religion is perceived in a negative light because of the activities of that crazy minority.
To support your argument a lot of the ongoing negative perception of Muslims is promoted/facilitated by the Zionists to further their own nefarious ends.
Why the German bashing? It promotes alienation and self-hate in whites
Baseball attendence is only outlawed in Baltimore. At the moment.
I don't think there was electricity when the Constitution was signed? So where 's the Jurisdiction denying this family of their Constitutional Rights?
How much more of this shit are we going to take in this country? We need to stand up en mas and say "Enough, We're not going to take this anymore!!!"
Downvoters - What exactly do you disagree with in my statement? Don't have the balls to explain?
Standing up and saying "Enough, We're not going to take this anymore!!!" won't change a thing.
Execution of all guilty parties is the only way to effect change at this point.
I woouldn't exactly call it being off the grid, when you have a cell phone and an assface page
Is snail mail okay?
How about carrier pigeons?
Keeping abreast of what is going on in the world is especially important when one goes off the grid.
Cell phones and internet provide just that.
Fuckin Jews!
Hold on a minute, this was a WHITE family? Oh, right, we are all niggers now. That fact escapes most folks...
Plutocracy/Oligarchy 2016! 2+2=5! War is Peace!
nope, we are all palestinians now
correct
Shocking.
Not far away now from being told what work we have to do and where we have to live.
Despite the emotion these stories evoke, I have just two comments:
Let's wait for an impartial assessment by experts from both government and the family.
Secondly, regardless of whether the children are in danger they should have been kept in close prximity and allowed contact with both their siblings and their parents.
Why do you think the State owns children? Seriously asking. "Experts from the government" - quote of the week, champ.
Because, sadly, in 99.99% of the cases, they do. Legally.
The marriage contract you sign when you Marry the State, and the Birth Cert when you sign over your child to the State.
All nice and legal.
And horrible beyond belief.
Otherwise known as guilty until proven innocent. Nice.
SMH.
I agree that, based on what's in this story, this situation is an outrage.
However, I Googled the parents' names and it seems there's a lot not in this story. Unfortunately, I suspected as much, which is why I bothered to Google it. The dad has a record for various minor offences, like bad checks, not registering cars or having a drivers license. There was a prior CPS contact. There were reported incidents with neighbors. The family had a pretty extensive FaceBook page with pictures of their residence, which by the pictures was clearly inadequate. Some homeschooler websites are saying these people had serious problems.
That's not to say the family should be broken up, by any means. That's a pretty blunt instrument. But you get into Appalachia, and things are more than a little weird. The officials are weird too.
I can't state an opinion, based on what I know from this article and the other stuff. But it's not the clear-cut situation it's being made out to be.
Did you actually find original records of those things or someone's assertions? Very easy to smear a target individual through the press, internet and social media if you want to discredit someone you are attacking.
Of course I didn't go to the courthouse in bumfuck Kentucky and sort that. And yes, very much I understand how easy it is to smear people. I grew up in a family with "alternative views," so I've seen it at first, second, and third hand.
On the other hand, I know people pretty well, including people who work in CPS, and people who have been victimized by them. I know homeschoolers, and people who can and can't function in society.
I said that from what I've seen in this article and elsewhere, I can't form an opinion I'd strongly defend. I stand by that statement. There are some raving loonies getting a lot of support via the internet these days. Believe it or not, there are some bad or loony (or both) people who get in trouble with the government. That tells me nothing. That the government would react in a heavy-handed manner tells me nothing either; when doesn't the government do that? That's what governments, and particularly Empires, do.
We have close friends who are anti-vaccine. OK, my younger siblings (there are a lot of them) had some very severe reactions to the Pertussis vaccine, in whatever formulation. Through the '70s and '80s, my family was told that there were no reactions to that vaccine so it was either my mother lying, or some other cause. Well, after one sibling had febrile convulsions, a sympathetic pediatrician arranged to get "experimental," partially-killed vaccines for my youngest sister. She was the only one who didn't have a reaction. Today, that's the only vaccine in use. So I get it when it comes to vaccines. But this family I know who refused to vaccinate their kids? All 4 of them get whooping cough every fucking winter. One of them now has permanent lung damage. Shitty thing to do to a kid; he's 8 years old and has asthma, chronic infections, pneumonia, whooping cough; he can't exert himself or go outside in cold weather (we live in Minnesota--Hello!). And his mom is very condescending to us that we vaccinated our (robustly healthy) children, and was very put out when I wouldn't let her drop her kids, sick with whooping cough, at our house for a few hours last winter while she did necessary errands.
See what I mean? The internet loves the anti-vaxxers, and I myself sympathize. But on that topic, that couple is nucking futs and has hurt their kids. Their kids miss 25-40 days of school per year, no kidding, due to illness and general disorganization. If CPS got them on the radar, and asked me about it, I'd have me a fine moral dilemma.
I'd say let's wait for this story to develop before we frame strong opinions. No nutjob ever went on the internet to discourage sympathy for their cause.
NOT condoning anything but do people really have to wonder by cops are taken out. I know I'm not the only person who understands that when people have lost everything...they have absolutely nothing to lose.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
the myth of 'this is a free country' couldn't be more apparent.
"...the land of tyranny, and the home of the depraved..."
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
Seems like Southern Folks would go after Police or Sheriffs for something like this. Maybe the South Has Changed or this is just one county among many variation of Principal and thought...
- Code of Federal Regulations Over 175,000 Pages...
- Number of crimes you can commit up 50% since 1980...
- 75,000 Pages of Income Tax Code
- HALF OF STATES EXPECT TO CONFRONT BIG BUDGET GAPS...
- 93 Million Don't work, but Federal Transfer of Tax Dollars to Corporations grows Exponentially
I thought Free Trade was going to Stop the Next World War, but it is obviously not True when NATO Goes Along With US NEOCONs, and a New Cold War, War with Russia, or a War with China ARE Possible and we see a New Arms Race, clear intention of war, Militarization of USA, 17 Intelligence Agencies, World Record Spending on Spying, World Record Spending on MIC
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-25/caught-tape-florida-parents-tre... (You WON'T Believe this Video)
Kentucky & USA & UK Maybe Patriarch, Matriarchy, Lords who think they have special Authority, State that wants all Authority over all like the Prussian Educational Model is the Problem:
- Porn and video game addiction leading to 'masculinity crisis'...
- Meme is We are in Power, you listen to us & Obey our Rules
- The State is the Ultimate Authority NOT God, and NOT the Individual or Individualism
- BTW The State has Sovereign Immunity for it's Supervisors & Leaders who are just doing their Jobs after all...
The mantra of TPTB is: "Arguments and Laws are irrelevant. Resistance is futile. Prepare to be assimilated."
You're not allowed to bring up kids nowadays who risk having that unacceptable trait: an independent mind capable of thinking for him/herself. These kids may become a threat to The State.
Looks like a serious error of judgment but at the same time, social services are important to ensure children are not seriously I'll treated.
I fear it is not an error of judgement. Similar things happen in other countries too, eg: Scandinavia. It's driven by people in SS and The State who have nothing better to do but interfere in the lives of other people and their misguided belief that kids have to be brought up in a prescribed manner.
First they came for Blacks . . . . .
First they came for the Blacks and Poor Whites like Rambo.
Then they came for the Activists & Protestors
Then they came for the Veterans
Then they came for those with Pensions, Retirements
Then they Sold out Industry after Industry in Free Trade Agreements While Expanding Government Contracting and Privatization of Federal Assets and Functions
Then the Free Trade Agreements gave away Sovereignty of Cities, States, and Counties and Agreed to Open up all kinds of Immigration, Bring in Foreign Workers for Foreign Companies, gave up all protection for National Industries, and Forced Citizens in our Country to compete against Slave Labor
Then they came for my Neighbor, the people that home school, and those that wanted to live independently without Debt, expensive bills, and eat questionable food.
Then they told us we had to move to authorized communities with established water, energy and food distribution networks... where we would be educated by the state and have to recognize state authority and control over us.
They need to...........
FACEBOOK! You can choose to live off-grid, but you CANNOT post it on Facebook! Wanna bet the 'anonymous tip' originated when someone read the Facebook page? They may even have been jealous, but eventually someone told someone else - and now the family is paying the price. Homeschoolers and off-grid families need to add a new lesson called 'op sec'.
And don't think for a moment that the NSA doesn't pass along intercepts on all communications and social media to the FBI and local cops. Supposedly something got passed on to the local cops in that Texas shooting.
4 Major Websites Report on You from profiles developed on Social Media. I saw that last week. They are all different products based on different kinds of things like pictures, comments and I don't remember what else.
This is the Privatization of Spying or Intelligence Operations. Clearly all these social website spying aps have a market to sell to government as well as consumers.
Private Security & Intelligence Firms.
I came for this. How is the family "off grid" when they have a Facebook page?
They'd be sitting ducks if they went back to snail mail.
I don't have a problem with keeping abreast of what's going on in the world.
For that, you need cellphones and internet.
"Stupid is as stupid does" comes to mind.
Being off the grid and living the 'simple life' does not offer the luxury of being naive or simple-minded, when it comes to the Gov or its proxies and snitches.
FB? Really? Are they 'simple'?
I lived in Breckenridge county for some time and when I live there it was still a "dry" county. No alcohol, including beer was sold. It's one of those places where you wouldn't want to break down on a Saturday night. Backwards ain't the word for it. It's further isolated by the Ohio River has a barrier to the North; aren't that many bridges across the might Ohio in that next of the woods.
And I image the ACLU will have a field day with this one, 'cause Breckenridge county is still probably one of those places where they still make it up as they go along. In other words, things like due process and warrants are optional depending on who they're after. I'm sure the family will soon be reunited.
Or this could be implementation of some educational Project that was passed in committee without a new State Law or anything.
There were Rumors about Rumors and Rumors of War on the Intellect.
Maybe one of our 17 Spy Agencies called in the Phone Tip?
Social Engineering is a messy business, but should not include arresting people and taking their kids.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-25/caught-tape-florida-parents-tre...
and you are not a neoslave?
Well from England to Canada to the USSA children have been taken from parents because of their political viewpoints.
In this case from England the father had no record of violent convictions in court but had neo-Nazi views and did make statements such as, 'The country’s top judges were told he had threatened to “mobilise an army of 200 skinheads” to kidnap the child if he was taken into care.'
I would wager that even a few ZHers might make an inappropriate remark if their child was going to be taken because they gave an uprate to Tyler...and if you think that COULD NOT HAPPEN you haven't been reading ZH long enough because the TPTB HATE ZH, why? Because ZH tells the truth, ABOUT EVERYTHING, the economy, societal issues, radiation dangers etc. ALL THINGS the MSM ignores ON PURPOSE.
This case was another blatant abuse of power by .gov
Somebody at Wal-Mart ratted them out to the police:
"The Campbell’s three small children were removed from their Holland Township home by the state in January 2009 after they asked a grocery store in Greenwich, N.J., to write “Adolf Hitler” on their son’s birthday cake.
Though a local Wal-Mart honored the birthday cake request, Adolf Hitler Campbell and siblings JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell were put into foster care."
Canada:
Parents in racism-related child battle lose custody
The boy and girl were apprehended by CFS in March 2008, after teachers at the girl's school noticed white supremacist drawings on her skin. The words "Hail Victory" and "Aryan Pride" were written on her arms and one leg in permanent maker.
A Manitoba court has ruled that a couple won't be able to keep their two children because of racist beliefs that were taught in their household.
Court of Queen's Bench Justice Marianne Rivoalen decided that both children will become permanent wards of Manitoba Child and Family Services. The children are currently in foster care
Rivoalen made the ruling after the court was told that the couple taught racist beliefs to their children, and that the daughter showed up at school with Nazi slogans written on her skin.
Take an Oath to Protect the Constitutional Rights of Yourself and Your Neighbors . . .
. . . and, in New Hampshire, the laughingly named “child protective services” will show up in your house, hold you hostage at gunpoint, and take your children from you. That’s what happened to the former Ron Paul staffer/retired paratrooper as described in the article.
Mr Snyder is one of those "Judeo-Christians" who think the Js are the bestest... As far as my reading on NS Germany I have never come across such an action taken by the government.
"But this is America, where we are turning a little bit more into Nazi Germany every single day.
You can listen to audio of Nicole’s shocking arrest right here.
When Joe arrived on the scene, the police continued to act like Gestapo thugs…"
Actions like this and the war on drugs (war on freedom) are things the Oath Keepers seem to tolerate and actively participate in.
Sure, the Oath Keepers swear to not confiscate your guns during a SHTF event (which would be a suicide mission), but the active duty Law Enforcement Oath Keepers seem awfully silent on every other constitutional abuse.
After all, they are only following orders.
The sheriff should have been shot onsite.
There are many things I have made up my mind I will "let the court sort out," but possession of my children is not one of them. If you come for my kids, then understand we are going to "sort it out" on the porch and the decision will be with extreme prejudice.
As long as you understand that you and your family will be taken out with extreme prejudice.
Exhibit A: Randy Weaver.
Exhibit B: David Koresh.
Perhaps it's better to learn from Sun Tzu:
“Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate.”
We all have to chose our own path. As long as the decision isn't made out of ignorance... One could arrive at either choice by virtue of either love or fear (hatred).
No duh.
"Better Call Saul"
And sue for millions. Or was that the plan all along? Just for grins... suppose, just suppose... that a bunch of people decided to make this happen, just so they could sue and be awarded tens of millions, which are then split by this "Oceans's Eleven".
Nothing would surprise me anymore in 'Merica.
Welcome to the reservation, Russel Means spoke about it years ago.
They really are coming for you guys, wake up please! I lived in the USA for five years and I did love this country, I did come from former Soviet Union it was a big difference for me. However, times have changed and about three years ago I decided never to go to the USA again - it is turning rapidly into police state...I see trouble on horizon, wake up guys there may not be much time left.
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Martin Niemöller
If you have 10 chirrun they better abduct yo balls yo
It's always funny when a total propaganda piece accuses someone (usually the government) of turning into "Nazi Germany".
I'd chose Nazi Germany over Bolshevik Russia 100% of the time.
No kidding. The Germans loved Hitler. Yes, he took a lot of Jews out of positions of power, especially the media, finance and government. Yes he conspired with the zionists to relocate jews to Madagascar or some other homeland -yes some of his followers persecuted some Jews in incidents like Krystallnaucht - -but remember in 1933 International Jewry really hurt Germany economically after they declared war on Germany with International boycotts - and yes he put German Jews in concentration work camps -like we did with the Japanese. And yes, Operation Barbarosa resulted in hundreds of thousands of Russian jews being executed , as they were considered the leaders and controllers of the opposition of Jewish dominated Bolshevik Russia - but how many Jews were executed in Germany? By gas chambers or otherwise? Very few. None by gas chambers if you look at the totality of the evidence -even in Poland. A lot of this Holocaust baloney is laregely a myth. The allies incinerated and murdered far more innocent civilians in firestorm bombing of German cities, Tokyo and the atom bomb attacks -than Hitler ever did. Under Stalin (or Mao) there was a tremendous terrorism and murder of tens of millions of their own citizens -up to a hundred million- for no reason at all -other than to exterminate potential opponents to a totlalitarian state. The victor writes history -WW2 is a classic illustration of this.
You are an idiot
Wayne Martin drank the Kool-Aid.
When it's true, it's not funny.
Haha, you think it's true? Try reading up on this family before swallowing up this drivel like some sheep watching CNN. This family is run by 2 psychos. They are absolute wrong family to get behind for any sort of off the grid cause. They are an embarrassment to the off-the-gird lifestyle.
The horrifying scandal in Rotherham (previous versions covered copiously for TOO by Tobias Langdon) continues to unfold. A report commissioned by the city council stated that at least 1400 children were sexually abused over 16 years.
It is hard to describe the appalling nature of the abuse that child victims suffered. They were raped by multiple perpetrators, trafficked to other towns and cities in the north of England, abducted, beaten, and intimidated. There were examples of children who had been doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, threatened with guns, made to witness brutally violent rapes and threatened they would be next if they told anyone. Girls as young as 11 were raped by large numbers of male perpetrators. This abuse is not confined to the past but continues to this day. … One young person told us that ‘gang rape’ was a usual part of growing up in the area of Rotherham in which she lived. …
Within social care, the scale and seriousness of the problem was underplayed by senior managers. At an operational level, the Police gave no priority to CSE, regarding many child victims with contempt and failing to act on their abuse as a crime. Further stark evidence came in 2002, 2003 and 2006 with three reports known to the Police and the Council, which could not have been clearer in their description of the situation in Rotherham. The first of these reports was effectively suppressed because some senior officers disbelieved the data it contained. This had led to suggestions of cover- up. The other two reports set out the links between child sexual exploitation and drugs, guns and criminality in the Borough. These reports were ignored and no action was taken to deal with the issues that were identified in them.
The authorities knew about it but did not act because of fear of being labeled “racists”:
By far the majority of perpetrators were described as ‘Asian’ by victims, yet throughout the entire period, councillors did not engage directly with the Pakistani-heritage community to discuss how best they could jointly address the issue. Some councillors seemed to think it was a one-off problem, which they hoped would go away. Several staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others remembered clear direction from their managers not to do .
The perps were muslem immigrants who believed themselves to entiteled to rape non muslems with impunity.
As the Federal government comes after you.
One family at a time.
No one will notice.
Good strategy.
This is what happens when you keep to yourself.
Do you really think the government is going to leave you alone?
It is a fascist state that would remove children without warning from their parents because of life style. It is a criminal act by the state, kidnapping x10. It is ugly hubris for anyone to suggest that a family with 10 kids who make a living by subsistence farming is wrong or bad. It is a criminal act by the state to not provide a reason in writing and allow the family a proper defence.
Its a big club folks, and YOU AIN'T IN IT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ4SSvVbhLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu3hy4OMX38
"Questions about vaccines"
FUCK these people. FUCK THEM ALL.
The herd immunity meme is herd mentality.
http://guardianlv.com/2015/02/vaccines-and-the-violation-of-basic-human-rights/#Qsemw2G7ODIxlJSf.01
https://medium.com/@therebootedbody/bringing-much-needed-sanity-to-the-vaccine-debate-e143f089bfd1
http://churnyourown.com/2015/02/20/vaccine-censorship/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10648110
The family's facebook page? That's not OFF THE GRID. Get rid of Face Fuck you half ass retards.
People feel the need to receive accolades from others, so hence, social media. But it's a bit like announcing that you are prepper with a big stockpile of food. That's fine but instead of feeding a family of 4 for a thousand days, by broadcasting it on social media you may end up feeding a thousand people for only four days!
when the social contract is null and void................well
If your halfwit armored down monkeys run an errand with out even one of them raising his hand like
"Hey guys, why are we doing this?"
"There has been 6 years plus of facts pounding us in the face that were expendable lackies, ummmmmm. "
Like I said "When the social contract is null and void" what is the general public honestly supposed to treat this?
Air em out on the spot? Armor isnt that good, you can peddle that shit all day, but cmon....7.62 x 39, 3 to the chest, that sternum is pudding.
Please will the copper guys with a spine stand up, surely you must know that pension isnt going to happen.
Holy smokes, i almost forgot, a guy I sell this or that to said a dude at his work was part of that bundy ranch stalemate, and they flashbanged his floors and tore every single scrap of furniture of anything, confiscated anything electronic and said he was a computer terrorist, of course no proof and his life is in a holding pattern of ruined.
So anyone in tv land, when you but heads with globalists, expect it to be to the death, or you will wish you were. This is a psa from a guy playing david bowie. Good luck fuckers
I'll be sure to play DeGuello.
The neocons learned from the likes of Leo Strauss and other fascist pricks who believe that the there is no greater power than the power of the state.
i tell you Hillary Clinton is NOW president of the United States, and the war on middle America - Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc will resume.
She kind of acts like it for sure. You can make that case. I wonder if the history of a Republican for 8 Years, then a Democrat for 8 Years, sets up an expectation for which she can't upset.
But Republicans do well to use Democrats to implement heavy handed Corporate Banking and Trade Policies as witnessed under Bill Clinton.
I have to admit, the damage of Bill Clinton was not written by me or known by me till we were into G.W.B. That means we may not really know the exponential damage to the USA of the Obama Admin till much later.
Anyway GOP may prefer a Democrat take the helm in these perilous times to weather the tough Revelations to come... thus setting the GOP up as a White Knight in 2020 or 2024.
I don't like this at all based on what I see today in 2015.
I see:
A. Government Capture
B. Regulation Capture
C. Revolving Door to Industry
D. Elected Congress preferring the company of Thieves and lusting after Bribes for Self-Promotion
E. Predatory Free Trade Agreements Signed by our Highest Officials
F. Trade Off of Bread & Butter Jobs for Slave Trade in Foreign Lands
G. Total Control of US Congress and a Wild Wild West of Banking, Accounting Control Fraud, a Collapse of US Ethos, and a Total Break Down of US Military & Government Principals
H. Common people working within a Trap of Debt, being loyal to a Corrupt System of Career Advancement to keep family Security and stay in a progressing financial state
But Nothing to see here. S/
we came, we saw, children got kidnapped
Liberal facism. Punishing parents for having 10 kids in the first place.
The parents could have at least learned how to build sidwallls using wattle and daub instead of poorly spaced tree branch stakes.
whatever happened to sod housing?
They're Mormons, that explains the kids... But doesn't really explain off the grid living if they Facebook, have a blog site and a grooming business site that's in the process of renovation!
http://blessedlittlehomestead.org/blog/
http://blessedlittlegroomingcompany.com/
From their own personal website, she has mentioned owning a camera then upgrading to a DSLR and having an iPhone 4. They have the money to lease a store front and pay for renovations.
It is fucked to put your family in shanty outhouse built by Homer Simpson while owning those extravagance. I can overlook them shitting behind a bush and no heat but not being able to provide water to your children to where you resort to stealing and threatening violence when the neighbor refuses is a big problem.
It is definitely not a simple as this article mentions about "living off grid".
Police Abduct 10 Children From A Family In Kentucky Because Of Their Gift.
Shit. That is hella Frustrating.
Good thing the po-po and CPS don't run around much in NE Wa. I've seen whole clans live in cars, vans and trucks spread around the property. With wood stoves for heat no less. The pack of Cujo looking dogs would put up a fair fight for a few. I down shift and wood it when I pass these enclaves. Good people, just don't ask questions or come uninvited.
U live in communist WA?
Nicoles mouth sure is purdy...maybe if she used dem mouth a hers a bit more she wouldnit have ten runts to treat like pig shit in squalor...
Billy!! get me mah shotgun n me banjo...daddy's horny...i needs me a womin..
This wont stop until the pigthugs get 'corrected'. Guess what, pigthugs? When you commit an unlawful act, you make yourself a target.
"I corrected them, sir, and when my wife tried to prevent me from doing my duty, I corrected her"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjdgXqKjHvY
"America, where we are turning a little bit more into Nazi Germany every single day" - Amen Tyler! Disgusting beyond words. Sheer, cold-blooded tyranny!
In another story, 1553 Americans paid 2400 dollars to renounce citizenship and escape. Thats just for the first quarter.,
1553 productive Americans bailed out.
$2400 to bail out out of the FSA? They also had to declare and pay capital gains taxes on everything they own. Most people that bail probably have a fair bit of gains, if only in their homes.
Take back the Earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2WEVdNQAxE&hd=1
This speech is from 1980. It's like hes talking in 2015.
its always some piece of shit neighbor or annonymous tip too afriad to show thier cowardly face while people suffer. they were probably envious of their property, happiness and the rest. and God forbid anyone should be happy right?
quote from H.L. Mencken
'Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.'
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/05/06/32141/
Cops are Aristocrats. They have their own law.
America hates off the grid living; hell, they bombard whole countries full of people living off the grid. Just sayin'.....Afghanistan, Iraq....
Hey look a story has two sides
http://kathrynbrightbill.com/post/118481565656/here-are-7-surprising-thi...
Thanks for posting that. I hope Michael will update his story. Seems this sort of research should have been done before publishing the story...
Hey look... someone skipped half the comments
(Although there are certainly more than two sides here, the one I'm least concerned about are the home schoolers trying to protect their "industry" from undesirables. They actually have moar of an incentive than the popo to portray this admittedly "weird" family in negative light because they face actual consequences, unlike the popo.)
He said, she said crap. I really liked this one:
"Joseph Naugler has multiple arrests, including for passing bad checks and for driving without registration or proof of insurance, and for failure to appear in court on those charges"
And threatening shooting someone for trespassing. Go trespass on government lands or buildings..... You will be shot.
WOW! What a horrible criminal he was. I mean Failure to Appear! DEATH SENTENCE!
Mister, I've seen children raised in worse ratholes than that in the middle of Suburbia called government housing,,,slums for short.
And finally as to edumacation. Apparently you haven't had any dealings with recent graduates of a government school system whom can neither read nor write or do rithmetic.
But hey! They can don a rubber on a banana in less than three seconds.
I only hope that the Bundy supporters get thier guns and ammo and hit the road
If the cops caught them at home they were 1. not in a militia or 2. their neighbors thought they were doing the kids harm. 3. federal jump 4. false flag. The only question is, what will Lezzies butt pirates do to these children? Better off raising themselves in the bush than be programmed by a foreign racist dyke with a napolean complex.
When I think about the entire Earth's flora and fauna, not even one single living species come to my mind that would not sign a petition for exclusion of men from belonging to this world. Although human beings are capable of questioning everything, this rarely happens. Mainly because the answers often bring with them the need for changes, and thereupon fear of change almost regularly wins over a desire for change. Times are unfortunately such that the implementation of the idea of the farm as a way to be your own boss, regardless of this sounding reasonable and attractive, remains accessible only to a few...
Designer/builder wanted for agritourism farm
You're wrong. Explain that to my rooted, winged and four legged friends. We have an ecosystem. I keep them going when its too cold or dry, even (rare) too hot. They keep me going all the time. Get out of your city and this is what you'll discover.
Good grief. When I think of all the Looney Tunes posts I read here lately I question why the math captcha was ever removed.
I don't mind them having 10 kids at all I just think it's funny how protective everyone gets in this forum when a family decides to have 10 children but when talking about gay rights and "other" minorities of society then the lashing out begins. In the end it's minorities and the state should accept all of them equally. And yes there are cases where parents neglect their children but there are also plenty of cases where the state does more harm than good by sending the children away. I'm really not in a position to judge because both articles are subjective...as for the brutality of the police that's unjustifiable in any case and as a European I am always shocked to see videos how police officers behave in the US.
Get it right. Mentally ill is not a minority. Homosexuality is aberrant behavior, monkey.
wait so are you behaviourist, religious, or latent homosexual?
Because there are gay lions and other animals, and there is no such word as aberration in nature. Nature just is.
No you animal, I AM THE BEST. Didn't cost you at all. FUCK OFF
You are the best closet cocksucker I have ever seen.
Welll, I killed. Alot. All for you. I'm not happy with you either. I crafted this world with hard work. You are going to tell me you don"t like it? I did my best. Fix it yourself.
There was a war. Be it as it was, I stood for you.
As long as you want to go...
Haha, well I won't start a discussion on this here. But it underlines what I meant in my last post.
Before you jump to that conculsion you might want to check your English grammar, particularly your use of quantifiers (e.g. everyone, all, most, many, some, few, any et al.). The previous post might offend moar than just the local grammar nazis. just sayin...
Make sure you understand this my children:
I am a veteran. They didn't expect me to hold up so long. Or you. I never asked anyone for help. My veteran brothers lived on the road and worse for decades, on VA welfare check. Homeless and in caves, in plain view. So fuck you to death, Warren. Your karma stinks.
The biker vets didn't take the welfare. You witness what they did to us.
I STAND FOR JUSTICE
Do your best kids. Don't look back.
Easy deterent to this type of thing: Find the judge and other authorities responsible, and their families, and take them off the grid.
You mean ''disappear'' them? The old Chris Kyle treatment???
Joe is a freaking moron! Seriously. Based upon their independent lifestyle, he must have known what would happen if he did not take his other 8 kids and vanish! This is what worries me. Even people who seem to understand the so-called "government" is just a pack of human predators behave in the most stupidly submissive ways possible. He freaking turned them over on demand! How insane!
Having said all that, I don't want to make the mistake of dumping on victims. We all know who the predators are, and what they deserve.
And to the author of this article. Just like Joe, you need to grow up! You need to stop living in fairy-tale land! That's where your brain is when you pretend the solution to this atrocity is "the court systems". You become part of the problem when you advocate the problem of egregious human predators be solved by egregious human predators. Probably you know, but refuse to write this. Grow up and smell reality. All the reality. Then pull no punches.
Since police can't shoot black people anymore they had to find another way to entertain themselves I guess.
Dealing with black crime was a job decent people were perfectly capable of taking care of on their own, and did for a long time.
The job of the police is to defend the scum of the earth from the decent, law-abiding and God-fearing, and keep the decent in their place.
If this family were black or Muslim, the cops would have seen to it nobody laid a finger on them no matter how much trouble they caused.
Notice to ALL parents - YOU DON'T OWN YOUR CHILDREN. You signed them over to the "state" when you obtained a birth certificate and social security number for them. Everything starts to make more sense when you understand this.
Thats pretty much the way it is all over the developed world.
You are more than willing to have them get sent to far off lands to kill anyone who doesn't kiss Uncle Sams' ass.
So don't get them a social security number and make them cut wood for a living to keep you warm. Also do NOT open any mail from the govt telling him/her to sign up for the draft.