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White House Denies It Fabricated bin Laden Killing, Says Hersh Report "Riddled With Inaccuracies And Falsehoods"
If anyone expected the Obama administration to admit that, as Seymour Hersch alleged last night, it had openly lied and fabricated the entire account of Osama bin Laden killing - perhaps the most defining narrative of Obama's entire first term, we have some bad news: it won't.
Instead, as AP reports, the White House has decided to continue its reality challenged ways and has dismissed as "untrue" Hersh's entire 10K plus word report on what really happened in Abbattobad.
It gets better: according to that paragon of honesty, White House spokesman, Josh Earnest, Hersh's piece in the London Review of Books is "riddled with inaccuracies and outright falsehoods."
It was not immediately clear if Earnest referred the press corp to some fabricated YouTube clip as evidence it wasn't lying about lying.
Earnest noted former CIA deputy director Michael Morell's reaction to the article — that he stopped reading because every sentence was wrong.
As previously reported, Hersh attributed his information to a retired general of the Pakistani intelligence service and several unidentified sources in the U.S. and Pakistan. He says bin Laden was secretly kept as a prisoner by the Pakistanis and that they helped the U.S. stage the raid on his compound.
Among the many allegations of Hersh's report are that:
- bin Laden had been a prisoner of the Pakistan intelligence at the Abbottabad compound since 2006 (something revealed previously in "Osama bin Laden 'protected by Pakistan in return for Saudi cash")
- that the two most senior Pakistani military leaders knew of the raid in advance and had made sure that the two helicopters delivering the Seals to Abbottabad could cross Pakistani airspace without triggering any alarms;
- that the CIA did not learn of bin Laden’s whereabouts by tracking his couriers, as the White House has claimed since May 2011, but from a former senior Pakistani intelligence officer who betrayed the secret in return for much of the $25 million reward offered by the US,
- and that, while Obama did order the raid and the Seal team did carry it out, many other aspects of the administration’s account were false.
The Obama administration says the Pakistanis didn't know about the raid in advance. It wasn't immediately clear if it had rejected all the other claims.
For those who missed it, the full Hersh report can be found here.
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They're all liars. Whatever they say, the opposite is true.
http://sofrep.com/41269/hersh-bin-laden-anatomy-cover/
Too bad he died many years earlier.
Yeah, we killed his twin brother Bob
Make that Shish Ka Bob
PCR calls bullshit on Uncle Seymour:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/05/11/seymour-hersh-succumbs-disinf...
Whatever, lets see the Obama Administration prove THEIR 'narrative'. Pics or it didn't happen .. Go ahead 'Joshy' boy, where's the pics? The Photoshop experts are ready to tear it to shreads.
Its not official truth until its officially denied
Benazir Bhutto told David Frost that Osama bin laden was dead before her own murder in 2007:
http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/15-01-2008/103426-benazir_bhutto_osama-0/
Yep. Don't believe Hersch either. I think he's been dead a long time before that raid ever happened. I think the us govt knows that, but couldn't allow him to 'die' without some feckless politician getting credit for it. Plus, having a face of the 'war on terror 'known by everyone to keep them scared is too useful to give up easily. If he had been there since 2006, way too many people would have given him up for a tiny fraction of that 25 mil offered long before those paki generals. 6'4" Saudis are hard to hide, especially in Pakistan. They may all look the sme to us, but they don't to the natives of those countries.
Reading from a prepared statement, Earnest, quoting, said:
"This statement is a lie. We will not comment further. Anyone familiar with the facts knows that when the President states: "This statement is a Lie.", he means it."
"We will not take any further questions - in case of doubt, please refer to the previous statement."
Osama (most wanted man in the world at that point) chooses to set up his operations 1 kilometre (americans not used to metric system, 1km = 0.6miles) from pakistans 'west point' and operates there for several years without raising suspicions. Seals fly in on two helicopters crashing one (on fire). Perform raid then are picked up by chinooks (at least 20mins later) and flown out, all without anyone from the academy popping over to see whats up?
Osamas body is flown out to an aircraft carrier (something like 300miles away) and dumped in the sea without any public documentation, including logs.
WH changes the official story multiple times...
All sounds legit. As peter bergen, who has no vested interest in this, is saying on CNN "administration has been 100% transparent" Ohhhk..
The comments I've come across range from "hersh made it all up" "if it happened like hersh said who cares Obama was basically honest" to "i don't care how they killed osama as long as he's dead USA! USA! USA!"
Oh and those on zh "osama died in x year previous. SOURCE: facebook"
Considering My Lai and Abu Ghraib, Hersch has an excellent track record and I see no reason to doubt him. Funny how some who rightly disbelieve the official story prefer their own contrived explanations over a much more credible account by a good reporter.
The truth about Bin Laden's demise was on Hitlery's hard drive...
Which she nuked.
'splain to me again why they dumped his body into the ocean ... smells fishy like week old escobar
It's a Sicilian message. It means Osama bin Laden sleeps with the fishes.
What about the Navy Seals who died right after they 'snagged' bin laden. Mysterious.
They are out there protecting a country full of travons, oprah's, speilbergs, and obama-douches. Their reward? Dead-ed.
Nice.
who has lied more in the past? seymour hersh or barack obama?
who will lie more in the future?
past performance is no guarantee of future results but, as damon runyon noted, that's the way to bet it.
A lot of people passively collect email traffic using packet sniffers. Bet you she didn't even at least use pgp keys at minimum either and sent everything plain text. But of course no one will bring her up on security charges for that either.
I really don't have another explanation, or another story or narrative to tell aside from just not believing he lived that long with his medical issues. I said from the first time I herd the official story I thought he died years ago. I mean is what Hersch says REALLY groundbreaking though?
"This just in- the US govt violated another countries territory and murdered a bunch of people in a nighttime raid"
Hardly different than the drone strikes we do all the time, just a guy close up pulling a trigger instead of a guy in the Nevada desert doing it via remote control. The end result is the same, the US govt breaks international law it claims to uphold and kill people. That's the meat and potatoes, along with some lying to make the Obama admin look good.
So, the US govt violated someone territory, assassinated someone, then lied about it. Not exactly earth shattering revelations.
just not believing he lived that long with his medical issues.
Much of the OBL story is obviously false so there's great room for doubt. But did you learn about the nature and severity of OBL's illness from government and media? Was the information they presented to you accurate? If the OBL character was created or at least enhanced by intelligence agancies how do you know what is fact or fiction?
On the other hand, Hersch is savvy, has connections and has been instrumental in breaking stories which the MIC can't possibly like. So his version looks like a good bet to me at this point in time.
obamas october surprise of a heroic rescue of an ambassador when horribly wrong, substitute a bin laden killing, but that led to a helicopter of seals having to die, and the ensueing seal rebellion at camp david killed a few others. military guys should take their vaca duing the oct surpise period every 4 years. sorry, just making stuff up again !
but, but that's not the way the movie went!!
and she almost got an oscar!!
Has paid propagandist ever crossed your mind? From Wiki;
"In his 1986 book The Target is Destroyed (Random House), Hersh reported that the shooting down of Korean Air Flight 007 in September 1983 by the Soviet Union was due to Soviet misidentification of the civilian aircraft as a PSYOPS asset, and that United States intelligence operations were not actually involved." [17] [18]
Congressman Larry McDonald was on that plane. I think the tribe is setting BHO up for some very rough times before election day. He's gonna be their fall guy. He'll be lucky if they let him out alive. Of course, they may fake that too.Has paid propagandist ever crossed your mind?
No, but once I thought he might be a symbiont from Planet Zontar. Must have been some bad fruit or something.
The man who lived next to the compound said he knew who lived there and it wasn't Bin Laden. He also said the raid was conducted by men speaking Pashto.
Osama died in 2001.
Source: actuarial tables and average prognosis for late stage Marfan's.
James Cole I respect your post. Americans cheered the death Lee Oswald in the same sheeple stupid way. Both men were probably patsies, in a corrupt world run by greedy bankers and empire. They both died without ever telling their side of the story. And the criminal elite just keep on moving on.
This is the environment the political class has created for themselves and thoroughly enjoys.
They've lowered the bar so often it's now perfectly normal, even expected, that all politicians and government cronies *at all levels* lie all the time and nobody even raises an eyebrow. A normal, decent person wouldn't want a depraived liar as a friend or neighbor but it's a foregone conclusion these people are not normal and decent at all. The culture of government attracts the most despicable elements of humanity and nothing else can survive in it.
It's just as preposterous thinking Mr. Smith would ever go to Washington as it is George Bailey being a banker.
The raid took place there is no doubt about that. It was tweeted live. But we will never know if it was OBL or not. If it was, he was receiving dialysis for years courtesy of Pakastan. It would not surprise me if he's been held on ice since 2003 waiting for a "time of need". Likely some poor slob they found who happened to be relatively tall who was forced to play the part.
Ever read "No Easy Day"? No fast rope as the lead helo crashes into the wall, and the troop have to land outside the compound. They blow the gate to get in, and what do they find? Three guys ready to defend themselves, their ideology and their families? Nope. One guy gets off a burst through a steel door. That's it.
OBL's kid? A seal whispers his name and he sticks his head out to see what's going on and gets shot. This is at least 10 minutes in. I guess the Seal spoke with an authentic accent, but which one? Pakistani? Saudi?
Finally, they are on video. The story goes that they shot OBL in the face and he was unarmed. Think about this for a moment. You're being video taped, you have who you have in office and you are going to shot an unarmed man? Right... ROE were just suspended? And you are going to trust this crew?
Don't buy it.
No, I haven't read that. With the bad attitude I've developed all I can remember is giving up on the idea that anybody would ever know the truth about this was the part where he was dumped overboard.
Right there I started wondering what other scandal was going on that this was supposed to distract me from. That's where I'm at right now with this from Hersch. I'll never be sure if this story is true and I'm suspicious something worse is happening elsewhere, so I won't even try to figure it out.
we live in a bizzaro world. If Obama says it is the truth it must be a lie.
If Hersch is correct about the Pakistani ISI holding Bin Laden part there will probably be some sort of cable leak or document leak to back at least that part of the story coming up shortly. Anyone want to take bets that Hillary Clinton's (still S.O.S. when the raid happened) emails that went through that private server have some information that the Obama administration doesn't want public relating to this story.
That means hackers including anonymous and if they did it right gave copies to wikileaks also just in case probably have those emails also....
Don't be so quick to dismiss Hersch outright on this one.
At least we have the corpse to prove Barry's assertion, right?
You don't bury someone at sea if you can just as easily claim the body was destroyed/burnt/mangled beyond recognition in the helicopter crash.
"Plus, having a face of the 'war on terror 'known by everyone to keep them scared is too useful to give up easily"
Emanuel Goldstein
I just heard on Fox News - and firmly believe - that it was Bill o'Reilly who killed singlehandedly while the SEALS were sorting out the helicopter issues
While I personally despise the sack-of-shit in chief, Hersch has made a carrer out of half-assed journalism. Just sayin
There's a motive here. He's tribal, there's always a motive. I think it's the beginning of the intentional destruction of BHO, and by extension, Hillary. They will tear him down to take her out, imo. He's a lame duck now. No use to them.
seymour was way way off base when he gave his account of the 70 marines who partnered with the IMF and UNESCO to carry mister Laden to the space station and then blindfold him and shove him out into empty space where he inflated like a balloon before hurtling to earth at mach ten thousand
in fact, it was the World Health Organization, not UNESCO, who provided the blindfold.
and now you know the Real and True story of that remarkable collaboration of global peacemakers.
Remember, the word "Peace" derives from "Pax."
"Pax Romana" "Pax Americana"
Peace does not mean non-violence. Oh no.
It means "freedom from civil disorder."
Ghengis Khan was a huge fan of Peace. He Paxed a million inhabitants of Baghdad. There. No more civil disorder.
Now, pass the airag and slave girls.
Fuck peace. Yet another "weasel word."
Spreading Peace by fire and sword. Spreading Democide to the downtrodden by protecting them to death.
PCR for POTUS. Ah, screw that, Lysander Spooner for POTUS!
You how you can tell Obama is lying ?
His lips are moving
We waited to kill some folks as an election year stunt
It was a notion
The whol thinng is just fuel for the war industry and the bankers who always profit from war.
it is true brother
poor say more hershey died long agoes
what is your evidence he died many years earlier?
I'm asking seriously.
of some possible interest:
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?complete_911_timeline_miscell...
you fucking brainless idiots.
what - it's true because you think it is?
fuck you.
And Idi Amin died years later after disappearing from Africa at a pallacial compound in Saudi Arabia. I too believe OBL died of renal kidney failure years ago.
Respiratory considerations in the patient with renal failure.
Pierson DJ. Respir Care. 2006.
Show full citation
Abstract
Lung and kidney function are intimately related in both health and disease. Respiratory changes help to mitigate the systemic effects of renal acid-base disturbances, and the reverse is also true, although renal compensation occurs more slowly than its respiratory counterpart. A large number of diseases affect both the lungs and the kidneys, presenting most often with alveolar hemorrhage and glomerulonephritis. Most of these conditions are uncommon or rare, although three of them--Wegener's granulomatosis, systemic lupus erythematosus, and Goodpasture's syndrome--are not infrequently encountered by respiratory care clinicians. Respiratory complications of chronic renal failure include pulmonary edema, fibrinous pleuritis, pulmonary calcification, and a predisposition to tuberculosis. Urinothorax is a rare entity associated with obstructive uropathy. Sleep disturbances are extremely common in patients with end-stage renal disease, with sleep apnea occurring in 60% or more of such patients. The management of patients with acute renal failure is frequently complicated by pulmonary edema and the effects of both fluid overload and metabolic acidosis. These processes affect the management of mechanical ventilation in such patients and may interfere with weaning. Successful lung-protective ventilation in patients with acute lung injury and renal failure may require modification of hemodialysis in order to combat severe acidemia. Hemodialysis-related hypoxemia, which was once believed to be the result of pulmonary leukostasis and complement activation, is explained by diffusion of CO2 into the dialysate, with concomitant alveolar hypoventilation in the process of maintaining a normal P(aCO2). Like acute lung injury, renal failure is a common complication of critical illness. An increasing body of evidence also supports the notion that the kidneys, like the lungs, are susceptible to injury induced as a result of positive-pressure mechanical ventilation.
PR. thanks for the link.
Osama's corpse and TPP...never to see the light of day
Pictures are easy to fake. My 3 year old son can do it.
Let's see the body. So easy. So simple.
Because, obviously, you kept the body of the single most hunted man in the last 200 years, right? The guy you spent billions of dollars, and untold numbers of human lives, threw away centuries worth of diplomatic capital and the goodwill of the entire globe to track down and give him his maximum RDA of lead and copper?
No?!
Well, there's this little phrase called "pig in a poke..."
Meat, or it didn't happen.
Forget photos.
Where was OBL's dialysis machine ???
They need to hire some good continuity guys, so these major slips aren't so obvious.
Correct.
If the current "reality" dialogue was a TV series, I would not watch past the pilot.
Worst. Series. Ever.
WC, sometimes it's even more powerful to get people to ostensibly believe a lie while knowing it's a lie.
Like watching a guy eat a shit sandwich and thanking you for lunch.
Back in 2001 the respected Fox News reported that the late Mr bin Laden (peace be upon him) had passed away, “due to an untreated lung complication”. So it must be true.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2001/12/26/report-bin-laden-already-dead/
"Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader."
If you think that is smoking gun proof - you aren't thinking.
It also doesnt matter. All he was was a patsy.
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it
http://spingola.com/ZCF.html
They never learn.
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/apollo/apollo17/hires/as17-14...
Same here, too. Line where ground meets mountains(edited backdrop) and focus is completely lost.
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/apollo/apollo17/hires/as17-13...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/NASA_Apollo_17_Lunar_...
http://www.spacefacts.de/graph/drawing/drawings2/apollo-17.jpg
http://static.tecnocino.it/625X0/www/tecnocino/it/img/Apollo-17-Luna.jpg
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a17/AS17-147-22590.jpg
Oopsie, astro-not imposed over hash mark cut into lens. Shadows mixed up and no rover tracks. hash marks out of place or missing.
http://www.spacetelescope.org/static/archives/images/screen/opo0529i.jpg
Dave, thanks for those links. Even better, the "Building 7" question for the Apollo missions is this:
How did they get 70mm film with a maximum depth-of-field of SIX FEET(!) to resolve details into the far distance?
Hmmmmm....damn laws of physics spoil yet another mass hallucination.
No wonder scientists are waffling about getting current manned missions past the Van Allen Belt. Otherwise, they wouldjust use what was used in the 1960's!
"Meat, or it didn't happen. "
Exactly.
CNN & MSNBC would have played a clip of his corpse being sneered at by Obama and Hillary for weeks.
-It would have been the hottet cabler TV video footage since Saddam was pulled out the spider hole and frog marched.
Yep. The number one hated criminal in recent history gets erased and buried at see within hours? No pictures of the dead body (legit ones I mean)? No pictures of the burial at sea?
FOR SURE it's bullshit. Obama and his ppl are liars.
Couple that with one of the largest takedowns in silver ever that happened during this exact time and you begin to see how calculating and devious .gov truly is.
Whatever they say is 100% bullshit.
"Criminal?" Never convicted of course but why never even indicted?
Well, to be fair I've called Holder, Bernanke, Geithner and Obama all criminals too, and none of them have been indicted. It's the New Normal. White-collar crime and terrorism are big business these days. Lawlessness is the new way. Laws are an inconvenient and annoying hurdle to the political and economic well-being of some nations.
The CIA is an armed militia for corporate america and its 0.1%, nothing they have ever done has been truthful or democratic, we should not expect anything less from them.
@ Nope,
Spot on. I refer to theses Psychopaths as Criminals constantly. Even in mundane conversations with friends, family & strangers. I get a hoot out of the facial expressions I get.
No arrests & indictments Just proves it's a Criminal System, owned by Criminal & run by Criminals.
Osama was never, ever on the FBI's most wanted.
Even they knew it was a Full-Retard move from the word go.
exactly
there is no proof of his being dead and no real proof of his body buried at sea.
ppl are so stupid to fall for this shit.
This press release validates everything.
Now these lying bastards need to declassify the 911
Papers.
Everybody's pants are on fire.
brilliant. lies to cover other earlier lies leads the average snoozer to think one or the other is true!
I just don't understand why this is being recycled now. no one cares and O is a lame duck.
Beware of anyone who speaks in absolutes.
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". . former CIA deputy director Michael Morell's reaction to the article — that he stopped reading because every sentence was wrong."
That's amazing, since that was exactly my reaction when I first began reading neocon gaytard, Michael Morell's book, and pile of crap, The Great War of Our Time: how the CIA only hires douchetards and traitors.
That OBL died of kidney failure in Dec 01 is an often overlooked detail in the official narrative
When has the Nobel Prize Winner ever spoken the truth?
Perhaps, in his third term
Here is Obama promising to label GMO foods in 2007:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqaaB6NE1TI
252 DOCUMENTED EXAMPLES OF BARACK OBAMA’S LYING, LAWBREAKING, CORRUPTION, CRONYISM, ETC.http://www.infowars.com/252-documented-examples-of-barack-obamas-lying-l...
and OJ denies he killed his wife.
Was his ex. so its techically true.
Do you supposed there was a SEAL team raid on his wife?
Well if there is any entity in the world that could recognize, "Inaccuracies And Falsehoods", it would be the White House.
"Affordable" Care Act. The "Patriot" Act. The "Protect IP" Act.
All do the opposite.
But note the word following them: ACT.
It's all theater.
Bring up the lights. Stop playing your role. Start living in the real world, instead of the Shit Show.
Falsehood.....That's racist.
I didn't believe the convenient narrative, from the word go.
The entire war on terror is a falsehood...not just Obama bin lyin
- Tim Osman
Agree with above. They're the experts on inaccuracies and falsehoods, they must know.
Ex-Spurts
Has-been drips under pressure.
They lied about lying. Imagine that.
BODY LANGUAGE DOESN'T LIE. If you have read any body language books, you know he is lying. Look at his lips.
The White House version of that book says only to look for movement of the lips.
Or the warming glow of TOTUS.
Actually he lost them in a motorcycle accident. He seems very earnest to me.
It's always Opposite Day at the White House!
Obama bin Laden
Obama Sin-laden.
The CNN crowd has already decided that Hersch is a lying liar - why would the Saudis pay to protect Bin Laden, they hate Bin Laden. No one questioned Saudi financing for 9/11, though. No connection between the Saudis, Bin Laden, and 9/11.
The movie has already been made, so that's the truth. Not my line, but I know enough from Wag the Dog to know the truth matters little compared to opinion.
You're right, of course!
The bin Laden family historically comes from Monaco.
Our Government has become just a swamp of lies! Just like the old Soviet Union where they lied with every word they spoke, so Washington has become a liars lair. Obama has taken the big lie to new heights. He kills with drones, prosecutes truth tellers and now can't even admit the truth about his fake Bin Laden raid.
Or should we all just watch the Zionist "Zero Dark Thirty" hoax and shut up?
I forgot to take my Red Pill, so I couldn't watch it at normal speed.
Had to watch most of it at 2x or 3x. Watched the vital bits at normal speed, and almost cracked up. Total Propaganda piece. Poor imitation of Leni Riefenstahl.
From my days of reading the original pravda, the articles at least had some basis of truth. Sure, they put their spin on an event and their hysteric were often nothing less than comical. But an event usually did take place. Today most of this shit is completely made up. It's as though the press operates assuming the audience has the attention span of a flea. Perhaps the spin-masters are correct.
Consider what the state of things would be if it were not for the new Gutenburg or SamIzdat - the internet.
Some truthiness is just better than others:
AUTHOR REPORTED ESSENTIALS OF HERSH’S BIN LADEN STORY IN 2011 — WITH SEEMINGLY DIFFERENT SOURCESMSM hates Hersh because he wrote pieces that make Israel look bad and Hersh always make the MSM look retarded and the U.S. government as evil as it actually is. I am rather amused by the sudden appearance of Hersh Haters here that haven't posted in months, sometimes years, and reappear just to take a whack at Hersh. The Hersh-Hater super-fan club seems to have been formed sometime right after the Son My massacres were reported. Funny about the timing of that. I've been watching them trot out their pitchforks ever since then whenever Hersh publishes ANYTHING - warning me about some Hersh ulterior motive. I'm amused that anyone is actually that afraid of what he writes.
I thought one was never served by denying crazy allegations.
I can't believe they even dignified the accusation with a comment. Loon City.
Amazing not a fucking peep from OBL since the US killed him. His ego is too big to let it slide without a picture of him with todays paper.
The USA never killed him, he died of kidney disease. If you buy the US story you are an idiot;
oh look, it's dutchgirl.
Look its the white nigger faggot asswipe son of a crackwhore!!
If OBL died in 2001 then it must be Bush's fault.
That's why he let Obama have all the credit for his death. Tin foil hats are morons.
there isn't any real proof of his death, so he possibly could still be alive...
This debate is like the one on Kennedy's death and the magical bullet affirmation by the Warren commission.
When a nation gets itself into the spiral of self fulfilling and destructive logic and deliberately WARPS the functionning of its institutions to make it the INSTRUMENT of defending the "status quo" monopoly of cancerous MIC, to the point of justifying the death of its world leader as an act of a "deranged" person all on his own, you know that anything then becomes possible like in ancient Rome. We are entering the age of free fall. Like "our money your problem" and "bring down your Berlin Wall Mr Gorby so that we can put up our Nsa, Nsa contraption to spy on the world."
It leads to the creation of a Supreme Court that under the likes of Scalia has become the opposite of what LAw is about : it SHOULD not defend the rich and powerful like the Supreme does today to the point of becoming an accessory to the TBTF ; time and again since 2001 defined that mindset.
Pax Americana has now morphed beyond recognition.
And we all pay the price for bending knee to it.
I would posit that the problem is not their lies, but the believing of their lies by the victims of their lies.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
I often wonder what happened to the young man, about 19, that I encountered in Omaha shortly after the criminal invasion of Iraq in 2003. He was all patriotically hyped up, and proud that he had joined the Marines. I told him that the DC US was invading Iraq for money and oil, not to subdue an enemy, and that ultimately the DC US would fail. He thought me nuts, even said so; "The mightiest military. Largest economy. Most 'friends.' Best weapons. Air superiority. etc.." Not one word on morality or humanity. I often wonder what happened to him.
Will Mr. Hersh's death not be ruled an accident or suicide by nailgun?
Can jet fuel melt steal beams?
Woah, now! You've completely missed the point. Hersh only debunked the little lies, all in order to provide a narrative to reinforce the biggest lie of all, that they killed bin Laden.
Just hope his automobile isn't equipped with those digital systems containing Freescale Semiconductor chips.
Don't you just love it when these two-bit morons at The Whitehouse are responding to stories that they heard about online.There are a lot more people reading ZeroHedge than you think.
Like when Blondie takes Tuco in for the first time.
Strange in 2000. Most people never heard the names Obama. Osama.
And we believe them because the administration has been so truthful about everything else.
If you like your dead, ripe, former CIA-trained terrorist you can keep....
Oh Josh...just ask yourself, "What would Jay Carney do?"
I almost miss that smug little prick...
Very easy.!!
Everything the American government says is a lie.
Take it from there.
Everything ANY government MOUTHPIECE says is a lie.
FTFY
The aircraft carrier burial at sea was nonsense so.....what happened to the body, or was there ever a body to begin with?
the latter.
Oh, you can bet they had a body. Some body, that is.
Named Patsy.
"...what happened to the body..."
Geez, that is sooo obvious (no offense intended, but it is).
They shipped it back to the bin Laden family in Saudi Arabia.
he is probably still alive and they have him somewhere torturing him and shit
If he is still alive, he's probably living like a king with the rest of his family in Saudi Arabia.
He shoulda won a Grammy.
Kinda hard to find out who has less credibility here.
That's the great thing about polarizing propaganda, there's a prize in every package!
The WH would say the same thing about selling Obamcare.
lol There's nothing better than watching a couple of sociopaths fighting over who told the biggest lie...
Did they still dispose of the corpse in the ocean in accordance with Muslim law?...I mean Mafioso hitman law?
I will bet anything (seriously speaking) that they shipped the body back to the bin Laden family in Saudi Arabia.
According to Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former professor at the US Army War College, Israel did 911.
I'll take Tim Osma for $1,000, Alex.
http://humansarefree.com/2011/05/proof-that-osama-bin-laden-was-cia-and....
WH said so, oh, well that settles it.
I never believe anything unless it is leaked by an unidentified administration insider.
I wish someone would ask that press secretary ''What ever happened to the 6 Israelis you allowed to go back to Israel after 911? The ones who were set up to film the EVENT before the EVENT even happened.
Half the lies they tell us aren't even true.
and the other half is pure disinfo and propaganda.
hershey is a yahudi
no dis intended but he does help out the zionista in the realms of limited hang out.
like gnome chump ski these old fellas live long and get paid well.
pull it prize winner and nobel what a bunch of satanistick shitters
He is a KIKE gatekeeper like Noam Chumpsky
looky here bin lardinn whatchin himself in his youger days on tv while in paki stan
authentique
yes sir hollywood quality hyperrealit funny funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRasEUX2AWs
110volt outlets in Pakistan? Not likely seeing as its 220/230 like the rest of the world. entirely different outlets.
why dont you drop the kike bullshit - think it helps?
I dont think Chomsky is a gatekeeper, I think he's done a great deal to publicize Israeli war crimes. I think he just doesn't believe Israel was involved.
That is, I think he is *mistaken*
He also gets it backwards thinking Israel is some sort of puppet of the US when the reverse is not only nearly true but obviously so.
He has criticized and embarrassed Israel and Likud and right wing Zionism over and over and over.
On the other hand - Alex Jones is a fucking gatekeeper.
To move into the upper eschelons of goverment. First and formost you have to be the best at LYING. You have to have a phd in lying and you actually have to beiieve your lies. That's what make the best liar.
And you have to be good at pursing your lips.
Ever confront a pyschopath with proven lies? They purse their lips.
Kinda like Josh Earnest in the photo above?
He does have that frumpy sex scandal facial expression.
http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/760dda88ec/the-sex-scandal-face
http://randommization.com/2013/09/30/sex-scandal-dog/
Here is Arnuld and Tiger Woods making the same face.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/anthony-weiner-latest-politicia...
Here is Mary Barra making the same face when she was brought before Congress for the GM recall.
http://www.freep.com/article/20140404/OPINION04/304040015/GM-CEO-general...
If "every sentence was wrong" then perhaps the alleged target is still alive... plotting with the Easter Bunny and the Great Pumpkin? ROFL.
Propaganda.