America's Achilles' Heel

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by Dmitry Orlov via Club Orlov blog,

Last Saturday, a massive Victory Parade was held in Moscow commemorating the 70-year anniversary of the surrender of Nazi Germany to the Red Army and the erection of the Soviet flag atop the Reichstag in Berlin. There were a few unusual aspects to this parade, which I would like to point out, because they conflict with the western official propaganda narrative.

First, it wasn't just Russian troops that marched in the parade: the troops of 10 other nations took part in it, including the Chinese honor guard and a contingent of Grenadiers from India. Dignitaries from these nations were present in the stands, and the Chinese President Xi Jinping and his wife were seated next to President Vladimir Putin, who, in his speech at the start of the parade, warned against attempts to create a unipolar world—sharp words aimed squarely at the United States and its western allies.

Second, a look at the military hardware that rolled through Red Square or flew over it would indicate that, short of an outright nuclear mutual self-annihilation, there isn't much that the US military could throw at Russia that Russia couldn't neutralize.

It would appear that American attempts to isolate Russia have resulted in the exact opposite: if 10 nations, among them the world's largest economy, comprising some 3 billion people, are willing to set aside their differences and stand shoulder to shoulder with the Russians to counter American attempts at global dominance, then clearly the American plan isn't going to work at all. Western media focused on the fact that western leaders declined to attend the celebration, either in a fit of pique or because so ordered by the Obama administration, but this only highlights their combined irrelevance, be it in defeating Hitler, or in commemorating his defeat 70 years later. Nevertheless, in his speech Putin specifically thanked the French, the British and the Americans for their contribution to the war effort. I am sorry that he left out the Belgians, who had been so helpful at Dunkirk.

One small detail about the parade is nevertheless stunning: Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, a Tuvan Buddhist and one of the most respected Russian leaders, who presided over the Emergencies Ministry prior to becoming the Defense Minister, did something none of his predecessors ever did: at the beginning of the ceremony, he made the sign of the cross, in the Russian Orthodox manner. This simple gesture transformed the parade from a display of military pomp to a sacred ritual. Then followed the slow march with two flags side by side: the Russian flag, and the Soviet flag that flew on top of the Reichstag in Berlin on Victory Day 70 years ago. The march was accompanied by a popular World War II song? Its title? “The Sacred War.” The message is clear: the Russian military, and the Russian people, have put themselves in God's hands, to do God's work, to once again sacrifice themselves to save the world from the ravages of an evil empire.

If you try to dismiss any of this as Russian state propaganda, then here is something else you should be aware of. Did you hear of the spontaneously organized procession in which, after the official parade, half a million people marched through Moscow with portraits of their relatives who died in World War II? The event was called “The Eternal Regiment” (??????????? ????). Similar processions took place in many cities throughout Russia, and the total number of participants is estimated at around 4 million. Western press either panned it or billed it as an attempt by Putin to whip up anti-western sentiment. Now that sort of “press coverage,” my fellow space travelers, is pure propaganda! No, it was an enthusiastic, spontaneous outpouring of genuine public sentiment. If you think about it just a tiny bit, nothing on this scale could be contrived artificially, and the thought that millions of people would prostitute their dead for propaganda purposes is, frankly, both cynical and insulting.

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Instead of collapsing quietly, the US has decided to pick a fight with Russia. It appears to have already lost the fight, but a question remains: How many more countries will the US manage to destroy before the reality of its inevitable defeat and disintegration finally catches up with it?

As Putin said last summer when speaking at the Seliger youth forum, “I get the feeling that no matter what the Americans touch, they end up with Libya or Iraq.” Indeed, the Americans have been on a tear, destroying one country after another. Iraq has been dismembered, Libya is a no-go zone, Syria is a humanitarian disaster, Egypt is a military dictatorship executing a program of mass imprisonment. The latest fiasco is Yemen, where the pro-American government was recently overthrown, and the American nationals who found themselves trapped there had to wait for the Russians and the Chinese to extract them and send them home. But it was the previous American foreign policy fiasco, in the Ukraine, which prompted the Russians, along with the Chinese, to signal that the US has taken a step too far, and that all further steps will result in automatic escalation.

The Russian plan, along with China, India, and much of the rest of the world, is to prepare for war with the US, but to do everything possible to avoid it. Time is on their side, because with each passing day they become stronger while America grows weaker. But while this process runs its course, America might “touch” a few more countries, turning them into a Libya or an Iraq. Is Greece next on the list? What about throwing under the bus the Baltic states (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania), which are now NATO members (i.e., sacrificial lambs)? Estonia is a short drive from Russia's second-largest city, St. Petersburg, it has a large Russian population, it has a majority-Russian capital city, and it has a rabidly anti-Russian government. Of those four facts, just one is incongruous. Is it being set up to self-destruct? Some Central Asian republics, in Russia's ticklish underbelly, might be ripe for being “touched” too.

There is no question that the Americans will continue to try to create mischief around the world, “touching” vulnerable, exploitable countries, for as long as they can. But there is another question that deserves to be asked: Do the Americans “touch” themselves? Because if they do, then the next candidate for extreme makeover into a bombed-out wasteland might be the United States itself. Let's consider this option.

As the events in Ferguson, and more recently in Baltimore, have indicated, the tensions between African-Americans and the police have escalated to a point where explosions become likely. The American “war on drugs” has been essentially a war on young black (and Latino) men; about a third of young blacks are behind bars. They also run a high risk of being shot by the police. To be fair, the police also run a high risk of getting shot by young black males, causing them to be jumpy and to overreact. Given the gradually collapsing economy—close to 100 million working-age Americans are unemployed (“outside the labor force,” if you wish to split hairs)—it would seem that for an ever-increasing chunk of the population cooperating with the authorities is no longer a useful strategy: you get locked up or killed anyway, but you get none of the temporary benefits that come from ignoring the law.

There is an interesting asymmetry in the American media's ability to block out information about civil unrest and insurgency: if it is happening overseas, then news of it can be carefully calibrated or suppressed outright. (Did American television tell you about the recent resumption of shelling of civilian districts by the Ukrainian military? Of course not!) This is possible because Americans are notoriously narcissistic and largely indifferent to the rest of the world, of which most of them know little, and what they think they know is often wrong. But if the unrest is within the US itself, then the various media outlets find themselves competing against each other in who can sensationalize it better, in order to get more viewership, and more advertising revenue. The mainstream media in the US is tightly controlled by a handful of large conglomerates, making it one big monopoly on information, but at the level of selling advertising market principles still prevail.

Thus there is the potential for a positive feedback loop: more civil unrest generates more sensationalized news coverage, which in turn amplifies the civil unrest, which further sensationalizes the news coverage. And there is a second positive feedback loop as well: the more civil unrest there is, the more the police overreact in trying to control the situation, thereby generating more rage, amplifying the civil unrest. These two positive feedback loops can continue to run out of control for a while, but the end result, in all such recent incidents, is the same: the introduction of National Guard troops and the imposition of curfew and martial law.

The swift introduction of the military might seem a bit odd, considering that most police departments, even small-town ones, have been heavily militarized in recent years, and even the security people at some school districts now have military vehicles and machine guns. But the progression is a natural one. On the one hand, when people who habitually resort to brute force find that it isn't working, they naturally assume that this is because they aren't using enough of it. On the other hand, if the criminal justice system is already a travesty and a shambles, then why not just cut through the red tape and impose martial law?

There is an awful lot of weapons of all sorts in the US already, and more will come in all the time as the US is forced to close overseas military bases due to lack of funds. And they will probably get used, for the same reason and in the same fashion that red bricks came to be used in Boston. You see, plenty of red bricks kept coming into Boston aboard British ships, where they were used as ballast for the return trip. This created the impetus to do something with them. But putting up brick buildings is a difficult, demanding process, especially if laborers are always drunk. And so the solution was to use the bricks to pave sidewalks—something one can do on one's hands and knees. Similarly with the military hardware sloshing back into the US from abroad. It will be used, because it's there; and it will be used in the stupidest way possible: shooting at one's own people.

But bad things happen to militaries when they are ordered to shoot at their own people. It is one thing to shoot at “towel-heads” in a far-away land; it is quite another to be ordered shoot at somebody who could be your own brother down the street from where you grew up. Such orders result in fragging (shooting your own officers), in refusal to follow orders, and in attempts to stand up for the other side.

And that's where things get interesting. Because, you see, if you shoot at, imprison, and otherwise abuse a defenseless civilian population long enough, what you get in response is an armed insurgency. The place insurgencies are easiest to organize is in prison. For instance, ISIS, or the Islamic Caliphate, was masterminded by people who had previously worked for Saddam Hussein, while they were imprisoned by the Americans. They took this opportunity to work out an efficient organizational structure and, upon release, found each other and got down to work. Having a third of young American blacks locked up gives them all the opportunity they need to organize an effective insurgency.

To be effective, an insurgency needs lots of weapons. Here, again, there is a procedure for acquiring military technology that has become almost routine. What weapons are being used by ISIS? Why, of course, American ones, which the Americans provided to the regime in Baghdad, and which ISIS took as trophies when the Iraqi army refused to fight and ran away. And what weapons are being used by the Houthi rebels in Yemen? Why, of course, the American ones, which the Americans provided to the now overthrown pro-American regime there. And what are some of the weapons being used by the Syrian regime of Bashar Assad? Why, of course, American ones, sold to them by the Ukrainian government, which got them from the Americans. There is a pattern here: it seems that whenever Americans arm, train and equip an army, that army stands a really big chance of simply melting away, with the weapons falling into the hands of those who want to use them against American interests. It is hard to see why this same pattern wouldn't hold once the US places much of itself under military occupation.

And that's where things get really interesting: a well-armed, well-organized insurgency composed of thoroughly radicalized, outraged people who have absolutely nothing to lose and are fighting for their home turf and their families squaring off against a demoralized, defeated US military that has just failed spectacularly in every country it “touched.”

They say that “You can't fight city hall.” But what if you have a tank battalion that can control four intersections all around city hall, turrets pointed in all directions, firing at anything that moves? And what if you have enough infantry to go around and ring the doorbells of all the key city hall bureaucrats? Wouldn't that change one's odds of victory in fighting city hall?

The US might get to “touch” a few more countries before this scenario unfolds, but it seems likely that (excepting the possibility of all-out war) eventually America will “touch” itself, and then all those countries whose troops marched through Red Square last Saturday won't have America to kick around any more.

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ekm1's picture

This is parody

post turtle saver's picture

this is ridiculous horseshit is what it is...

doctor10's picture

not quite parody.

That "modified limited hangout" Seymour Hersch just launched about Osama is the tip of the iceberg.  It is an attempt to anticipate and control  "the real story" that some other intelligence service is about to eject into the public.

The DC /NY crowd hasn't yet figured out what to do when the next shoe drops about 911.

When the public gets the story straight-the DC/NY crowd may NEED the Dept of "Homeland Security"

lolmao500's picture

But but but! Manifest destiny means taking over the world, be slaves to banks and kill all the brown people to happily live ever after in a police state!!

El Vaquero's picture

Speaking of, I got pulled over about an hour ago for "acting suspicious."  Trying to figure out where to turn late at night is "suspicious."  I pressed the cop pretty hard about which statute he thought I was breaking, and it finally boiled down to "turn signal."  In other words, he was fishing, because they sure as hell don't enforce that one in NM. But he sure as hell came on strong about how I was acting "suspicious."  This was SO, not APD, by the way.

 

This was all after I refused to roll my window all the way down.  "I'd rather not, officer." 

post turtle saver's picture

I don't need to try to dismiss this as Russian state propaganda, because it *is* Russian state propaganda...

where did you fuckers dig up this delusional ankle biter anyway?

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Speaking of BS, dear PTS, in an unrelated event, the extent of ignorance and serf-like kowtowing to the Ministry of Truth's "anti-Russian" propaganda, the most gifted dancer was eliminated on tonight's Sem-Finals of DWTS (Season 20).

Nastia Liukin had the highest scores all Season and had two perfect scores last night, 70/70 (4x10 and 3x10).  She is a US Gymnastics Gold Medalist from the 2008 Olympics.  Unfortunately for her, she has Russian parents and was born in Moscow.  As predicted by several of us in our family, although we thought that she should win the Mirror Ball if pure Merit (skill + artistry) was considered, she was eliminated, when her scores were combined with Viewer votes.  We called it.

Interestingly enough, the wounded ex-GI, who is literally missing an arm and a leg and had much lower scores all season, is in the Finals.  The guy was pretty good (considering his handycap/disability), he is likeable and admirable for his indominable spirit, but hey c'mon, it's a frikkin DANCE show!  A clever PR move on his part, to play the Sentiment card, is that he proposed to his GF, right on the show.

So, when it comes to 'Mericans handling inequity or truth, they fail. BIG TIME.  You don't have to look at DC or NY to know that "Bullshit and Mediocrity is everywhere".

ersatz007's picture

DWTS is pretty much the hunger games. Just different (for now). Someday it will morph into KWC - killing with celebrities. The idea of the show is that a nobody and famous celebrity team up to kill poor people.

OldPhart's picture

What the fuck is semi-final DWTS?

 

El Vaquero's picture

Certainly the Russians use propaganda.  All governments do.  But the US seems to be on overdrive with it. 

farflungstar's picture

Not much for news that doesn't "AmeriKa Uber Alles", eh?

sysin3's picture

tl;dr

Jesus, put your main idea in the first paragraph, and then expound on it (provide supporting evidence).

A snappy conclusion is good too.

nopalito's picture

Ever thought about running for office? You'd make a typical congress critter who votes on 500-page bills without reading them.

Pancho de Villa's picture
Pancho de Villa (not verified) May 12, 2015 10:11 PM

Hubris will destroy the World.

post turtle saver's picture

I wouldn't worry too much... "fascism is a matter of taste", don't you know...

go ahead you RTyler fifth column Pooty Poot bag swingers, try to erase *that* one out of the history books... pro tip, if some guy from China named Ribbentrop shows up on your doorstep, don't sign anything...

post turtle saver's picture

that's because I wasn't trying to be... it's the truth, read up on history

LetThemEatRand's picture

But a bunch of black youts badly beat up a guy in Baltimore.  Isn't that more important, and doesn't that prove that black people are the real danger facing all of us?  

I'll bet this article gets 20% of the reads of "that" article, and a lower percentage of the posts.  Because, you know.    

Miffed Microbiologist's picture

Cerebral always loses to visceral no matter what the topic LTER. It's just human nature.

Miffed

LetThemEatRand's picture

On this we can agree, Miffed.  Which is especially sad given that the people who orchestrate or at least foster this division amongst us are sitting around having cerebral discussions and drinking fine brandy as we type, laughing their asses off (or having a good chuckle, as they would say).

Miffed Microbiologist's picture

On that I have no argument. Divisiveness has been always a key component of their methods.

The sad fact is simply the ease of which they accomplish their goals. My hope is they become complacent or we become enlightened but, as the years go on, I find neither very likely. Hence my attraction to the local world where I have at least a modicum of control and say in my destiny.

Miffed

Anusocracy's picture

Moral intuitions have a yin and yang make-up and the majority of people are susceptible to being manipulated in either direction.

http://www.moralfoundations.org/

1) Care/harm: This foundation is related to our long evolution as mammals with attachment systems and an ability to feel (and dislike) the pain of others. It underlies virtues of kindness, gentleness, and nurturance.
2) Fairness/cheating: This foundation is related to the evolutionary process of reciprocal altruism. It generates ideas of justice, rights, and autonomy. [Note: In our original conception, Fairness included concerns about equality, which are more strongly endorsed by political liberals. However, as we reformulated the theory in 2011 based on new data, we emphasize proportionality, which is endorsed by everyone, but is more strongly endorsed by conservatives]
3) Loyalty/betrayal: This foundation is related to our long history as tribal creatures able to form shifting coalitions. It underlies virtues of patriotism and self-sacrifice for the group. It is active anytime people feel that it's "one for all, and all for one."
4) Authority/subversion: This foundation was shaped by our long primate history of hierarchical social interactions. It underlies virtues of leadership and followership, including deference to legitimate authority and respect for traditions.
5) Sanctity/degradation: This foundation was shaped by the psychology of disgust and contamination. It underlies religious notions of striving to live in an elevated, less carnal, more noble way. It underlies the widespread idea that the body is a temple which can be desecrated by immoral activities and contaminants (an idea not unique to religious traditions).

We think there are several other very good candidates for "foundationhood," especially:

6) Liberty/oppression: This foundation is about the feelings of reactance and resentment people feel toward those who dominate them and restrict their liberty. Its intuitions are often in tension with those of the authority foundation. The hatred of bullies and dominators motivates people to come together, in solidarity, to oppose or take down the oppressor. We report some preliminary work on this potential foundation in this paper, on the psychology of libertarianism and liberty.

Demonoid's picture

Each paragraph of your post satisfies me intellectually, emotionally, and intuitively. Nice hat trick.

Anusocracy's picture

You're just sweet talking me.

Miffed Microbiologist's picture

Actually I enjoyed it myself as well. But Mr does think I am a tad bipolar with a touch of ADHD and slightly schizophrenic, so take that with a grain of salt.

Miffed;-)

Anusocracy's picture

Variety is the spice of life.

I would think that you tend towards Asperger's. Most people here seem to have systemizing brains

Miffed Microbiologist's picture

My Aspie friends would disagree only because I am so empathic and can "feel" things in others they cannot. An empathetic Aspie, hmmm. The duality does fit me. This may be why I must feel like a Stranger in a Strange Land. My astrologer friend thinks it's my Sun in Pisces, Moon in Aries. Alpha and Omega rolled into one. Surprisingly, I can chew gum and walk at the same time.

I agree. The world seems bent on conformity and normalcy. I find that exceedingly dull and limited. You, my friend, seem unaffected I am happy to note.

Miffed;-)

El Vaquero's picture

"Divisiveness has been always a key component of their methods."

 

We fundamentally pay black people (not around my neck of the woods, there aren't very many, and the ones who are here are generally pretty cool,) to act the way that they do, then we turn around and act surprised when they do some stupid shit.  The US government provides incentives for this shit, and then when the ones who don't act like total retards get nailed, we get outraged.  IMO, this won't turn into an out and out race war, but I could see flare ups in urban areas over race that are bloody and nasty.  We're paying for it.  It'll be fun to see what our money buys us.

Anusocracy's picture

Emotional thinking preceded critical thinking by many millions of years.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

"Cerebral always loses to visceral" will be true until Agenda 21 (hopefully) eliminates the Neanderthal gene from the global population.

IF there were a real 'Deity' with real brains up there or someone truly "doing God's work", then that's ALL you had to do, for the Human species to keep evolving, is to...

Keep filtering out the bottom end of the IQ and EQ segments of the Population.  Not placing any bets on that one though. [sigh]

trulz4lulz's picture

The article gets it wrong about the prison system. When martial law and war breaks out, I'm pretty sure the prisons can be shut down and filled with co2. Thus eliminating the prisoner insurgency hypothesis. Our government is a sick animal that needs put down. But what foul beast emerges from its stinking and bloated rotting corpse? No one can say for sure.

 

chunga's picture

The one thing I disagree with is where Orlov thinks US media market principles still prevail.

Courtesy of ZH'er Lumberjack's link we learn that's not true.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/05/12/ceo-compensation-media-idINKBN0...

Investors in some top U.S. media companies have had a rough ride as their shares have lagged the rest of the market. You just wouldn’t know it if you looked at the bank accounts of their top executives.

 

The CEOs of 11 major media companies were given median compensation of $32.9 million for 2014, much higher than any other industry group in the Standard & Poor's 500 index, according to regulatory filings posted in the first four months of this year and analyzed by executive pay consulting firm Farient Advisors for Reuters. Food & staples retailers came in a distant second at $24.5 million.

 

It is set to be the seventh successive year media industry executives come out on top – figures before 2008 are not comparable because of the way pensions and stock options are disclosed.

copy/paste earlier reply.

The stock price of US media companies must not be as important as complete and utter control of it's content.

I had to look up a few CEO's to confirm my hunches. We've got:

Bob Iger at Disney, Phillippe Dauman at Viacom, Leslie Moonves at CBS, and Jeff Zucker at CNN to name a few. Sumner Redstone's father changed the family name from Rothstein incidentally. I was wondering about this because I found it curious that the guy (Richard Fletcher) that got beaten to a pulp by 50 "teens" wasn't reported anywhere. I don't think it was ever on "Drudge Report" either.

It's a complete blackout on this, just like the ebola media hysteria of near certain extinction/pestilence that practically vanished from the "news"  and, apparently, ceased to be this massive epidemic literally days after Ron Klain became "Ebola Czar". Presto it's gone just like that.

El Vaquero's picture

Eh, the local "conservative" talk radio station plays Hannity, Rush and Savage.  I heard about Fletcher yesterday on Savage.  While Savage is a tool, it was in the MSM. 

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Chad_the_short_seller (not verified) May 12, 2015 10:12 PM

Jews are purposely destroying the USA while they simultaneously make Israel the World's next superpower. USA will be ruined with thugs like Baltimore and all the dual citizen jews who worked/funded/forced the destruction of the USA will go to Israel and be free, where there is no multiculturalism. They use that on us to completely destroy us while they build Israel into the world's powerhouse. It's coming whether you believe it or not. The Jew has had a plan for thousands of years.

F0ster's picture

Mishpocha is ironically what makes Jews supremely organized and effective against the Goyim. It's ironic that it's financial and political rewards in the near term create destabilizing anti-social effects on the society's they inhabit that those society's eventually kick them out. Mishpocha is a parasitic concept that will only rot the core of Isreal too as it will force Isreal's neighbors to destroy it.

To my Jewish friends, consider the real historic 'value' of Mishpocha and integrate with the rest of us in a more genuine format. Your future generations will live happier lives and maybe even get to keep Israel in the long term. If you don't you will inevitably fail. The failure of the U.S. is partially a result of the Jewish obsession with Mishpocha.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

And what's preventing Goyim clans from doing the same thing,  i.e. have inordinate allegiance to own extended family, Clan and Tribe? 

A: the bastardized and corrupted version of Christianity, which turns people into sheeple.  If the Jewish god  (Elohim/YHWH) changed them from slaves into rulers,  then WTF would his "Son" reverse that?  Why?  I'll tell you why: Because the Church was Roman.  And as a Roman Church,  it compiled the NT to suit the Roman elite: Blessed are the poor, Don't worry be happy, Turn the other cheek... 

The Reverse Darwinism makes you want to vomit.  Christianity only works if its society competes with other Christians, or against far less developed cultures.  When facing a highly homogeneous, organized and determined foe, Christianity folds.

Either Christianity needs to be cleansed of the noise and garbage, or it needs to be replaced with a superior worldview -- which could actually deal with and defeat Globalist Zionism.

IOW.. They are not the real problem; We are..

Klemens's picture

"Jews are purposely destroying the USA while they simultaneously make Israel the World's next superpower."

They call them self jews, but they are Khazars, they do not belive in the Old Testament, the bible of the Khazars is the Talmud!

Pava's picture

are you retard?...go check your head

Chad_the_short_seller's picture
Chad_the_short_seller (not verified) May 12, 2015 10:15 PM

Hitler was the one person who stood up to the most evil, satanic, inhumane, immoral thugs who's ever walked the face of the earth. Why are people celebrating defeating him? He stood up to the central banks, the lobbyists, the jews who took over the media and turned the minority against the majority, trying to do exactly what they HAVE done to the USA. Tell me again why defeating him is something to celebrate?

LetThemEatRand's picture

Hitler used base ethnic and religious hatred to build a brutal military dictatorship.  So there's that.

Transformer's picture

Chad... As I understand it, Hitler did not stand up to the banks, but did break with them.  He started out with their backing and then broke with them when he wanted to go his own way, so to speak.  He figured out how to trade with other countries without borrowing from the big banks.  He then did some of the most clever financial machinations the world had seen up to that point.

Hitler adopted some of the principles of Silvio Gessel, which had worked so well in the miracle money scrip experiment in Worgl Austria during the depression.  He created a monetary system that quickly rebuilt Germany, often called, at the time, the "German Economic Miracle"  This infuriated the big banks, as they do not want the world to know that a free monetary system will make for unprecedented prosperity.

If we still had a free monetary system in the USA, we would probably have a standard of living easily 3-4 times what we have today.

Everything about Hitler is bad, though, so the media does not talk about alternate monetary systems.

slavador's picture

Hitler revived Pagan symbols and mixed them with atheistic religion to create an idealized pre-christian society. America and Europe will repeat this error if they continue to secularize but stop training the males to be sissies. A pagan/atheist society were males exist in their natural aggressive state is a recipe for genocide. 

LetThemEatRand's picture

Yes, we're being downvoted for arguing that Hitler was a bad guy.  This just goes to show why we're fucked.  So let's say you're a guy who hates central banks like me.  You rail against them and call for change.  Then some guy says "what about Hitler?  He was against central banks!"  Then the discussion becomes about Jews.  Oh, and then you go to the top article and read highly upvoted comments about the "Planet of the Apes."   I wonder what the Tylers really think about this place becoming the internet version of a Klan meeting.  Is it all about the clicks?  Clicks with dicks?

Usurious's picture
Usurious (not verified) LetThemEatRand May 12, 2015 10:54 PM

dont believe everything you were taught in 9th grade history class....its been sanitized for your enjoyment.......

LetThemEatRand's picture

Let me give you one glaring example of the sanitation in 9th grade history class:  Hitler used Christianity to pursue his power.  WWII Germany was full of Christian symbols, and the chosen Christian sheeple as they saw themselves ate it up like hotcakes.   That fact was somehow missing from my text book in 9th grade.  

Religion has been used since the beginning of mankind to turn us against each other.   And of course ethnicity. The ZH comment section has become an excellent example of how this works.

slavador's picture

Hitler didn't use Christianity for anything except as a source of great buildings and as a source of folks  to convert (using propaganda and coersion)  to his particularly nasty pagan/atheist cult. He was very public in his desire to destroy all Churches as his 1000 year reich progressed.