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US May Use Military To Confront China In South China Sea Islands Dispute

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Just days after Japanese PM Shinzo Abe leaves Washington (having stepped up his nation's military assertiveness), The Wall Street Journal reports that the US Secretary of Defense has asked staff for military options in the South China Sea (as we have detailed China's land reclamation efforts):

*U.S. MAY USE MILITARY TO CONFRONT CHINA IN SPRATLY ISLANDS DISPUTE: WSJ

Having ironically commented on China's "bullying," it appears Nobel-Peace-Prize winner President Obama is preparing for an even bigger objective, amid China's rising threat to USD dominance (with Yuan liberalization and AIIB success).

 

As The Wall Street Journal reports, the U.S. military is considering using aircraft and Navy ships to directly contest Chinese territorial claims to a chain of rapidly expanding artificial islands, U.S. officials said, in a move that would raise the stakes in a regional showdown over who controls disputed waters in the South China Sea.

Defense Secretary Ash Carter has asked his staff to look at options that include flying Navy surveillance aircraft over the islands and sending U.S. naval ships to well within 12 nautical miles of reefs that have been built up and claimed by the Chinese in an area known as the Spratly Islands.

 

Such moves, if approved by the White House, would send a message to Beijing that the U.S. won’t accede to Chinese territorial claims to the man-made islands in what the U.S. considers to be international waters and airspace.

The proposal under consideration would be to send Navy ships and aircraft to within 12 nautical miles of only those built-up sites that the U.S. doesn’t legally consider to be islands, officials say.

Under the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea, reclaimed features aren’t entitled to territorial waters if the original features are not islands recognized under the agreement, U.S. officials say. Under that interpretation, the U.S. believes it doesn’t need to honor the 12-mile zone around the built-up reefs that weren’t considered to be islands before construction there began.

 

Several U.S. allies in the region have been privately urging the White House to do more to challenge Chinese behavior, warning Washington that U.S. inaction in the South China Sea risked inadvertently reinforcing Beijing’s territorial claims, U.S. officials said. Some allies in the region have, in contrast, expressed concern to Washington that a change in the U.S.’s approach could inadvertently draw them into a conflict.

 

“It’s important that everyone in the region have a clear understanding of exactly what China is doing,” a U.S. official said. “We’ve got to get eyes on.” The U.S. has been using satellites to monitor building at the islands.

 

In recent months, the White House has sought to increase pressure on Beijing to halt construction on the islands through diplomatic channels, as well as by calling out the Chinese publicly in recent press briefings and government reports.

And it appears the US military has been testing the waters so to speak...

U.S. military aircraft have repeatedly approached the 12-nautical-mile zone declared by China around the built up reefs. But to avoid an escalation, the planes haven’t penetrate the zone. A senior military official said the flights “have kept a distance from the islands and remained near the 12-mile mark.”

 

U.S. planes have flown close to the islands where the building has been taking place, prompting Chinese military officers to radio the approaching U.S. aircraft to notify the pilots that they are nearing Chinese sovereign territory. In response, U.S. pilots have told the Chinese that they are flying through international airspace.

 

The USS Fort Worth, a combat ship, has been operating in recent days in waters near the Spratlys. “We’re just not going within the 12 miles—yet,” a senior U.S. official said.

Finally, it is worth noting that...

The military proposals haven’t been formally presented to the White House, which would have to sign off on any change in the U.S. posture. The White House declined to comment on the deliberations.

 

Officials said the issue is a complicated one because at least some of the areas where the Chinese have been doing construction are, in eyes of the U.S. government, legitimate islands, which would be entitled to a 12-nautical-mile zone.

*  *  *

As a reminder, China has been busy...

Now, a series of satellite images have confirmed the construction of a 10,000 foot runway on the reef, which would appear to suggest that China may be planning on landing military aircraft such as fighter jets on the reclaimed islands. Here, in glorious HD, are the visuals accompanied by descriptions via the Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative:

 
 

Satellite photography has identified three cement plants operating on the island.

 
 

China has already constructed in excess of 60 semi-permanent or permanent buildings.

 
 

At least 20 structures are visible on the southern side of the island (ZH: including a helipad).

 
 

China is building an airstrip on the island. The airstrip is likely large enough to land nearly any Chinese aircraft.

 
 

Images taken on April 11 show the runway more than one-third complete.

 
 

Beijing is also installing port facilities which may be capable of docking military tankers.

Full interactive report available here from the AMTI

 

Here’s more color from NY Times on what this may mean from a military and geopolitical perspective:

 
 

The runway, which is expected to be about 10,000 feet long — enough to accommodate fighter jets and surveillance aircraft — is a game changer in the competition between the United States and China in the South China Sea, said Peter Dutton, professor of strategic studies at the Naval War College in Rhode Island.

 

“This is a major strategic event,” Mr. Dutton said. “In order to have sea control, you need to have air control…”

 

In time, Mr. Dutton said, China is likely to install radar and missiles that could intimidate countries like the Philippines, an American ally, and Vietnam, which also have claims to the Spratlys, as they resupply modest military garrisons in the area.

 

More broadly, he said, China’s ability to use Fiery Cross Reef as a landing strip for fighter and surveillance aircraft will vastly expand its zone of competition with the United States in the South China Sea…

 

“We absolutely think it is for military aircraft, but of course an airstrip is an airstrip — anything can land on it if it’s long enough,” said James Hardy, Asia-Pacific editor for Jane’s Defense Weekly...

 

“The main question is, what else would land there?” he said. “Unless they are planning to turn these into resorts — which seems unlikely, not least given the statement from the Foreign Ministry last week — then military aircraft are the only things that would need to land there.”

And a bit more from Reuters

 
 

Senator John McCain, chairman of the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee, called the Chinese moves "aggressive" and said they showed the need for the Obama administration to act on plans to move more military resources into the economically important Asian region and boost cooperation with Asian countries worried by China.

 

McCain referred to a U.S. intelligence assessment from February that China's military modernization was designed to counteract U.S. strength and said Washington had a lot of work ahead to maintain its military advantage in the Asia-Pacific.

 

"When any nation fills in 600 acres of land and builds runways and most likely is putting in other kinds of military capabilities in what is international waters, it is clearly a threat to where the world's economy is going, has gone, and will remain for the foreseeable future," he told a public briefing in Congress.

 

A spokesperson for the U.S. State Department said the scale of China’s land reclamation and construction was fueling concerns within the region that China intends to militarize its outposts and stressed the importance of freedom of navigation.

 

"The United States has a strong interest in preservation of peace and security in the SouthChina Sea. We do not believe that large-scale land reclamation with the intent to militarize outposts on disputed land features is consistent with the region’s desire for peace and stability."

*  *  *

This comes at an interesting time for relations between Beijing and Washington. China’s recent move to evacuate foreign nationals from the embattled Yemeni port city of Aden marked the first time the rising superpower has participated in an international rescue effort. During the same week, state television indicated the country would begin its first patrol by nuclear submarine later this year.

Meanwhile, the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank marks a coup in the post-war economic era, as the multilateral institution will seek to plug holes left by the US-dominated IMF and the Japan-influenced ADB, while simultaneously positioning the yuan to play a more prominent role in what is quickly becoming a new economic world order characterized by the ascendancy of the renminbi and the decline of traditional systems that have supported dollar hegemony such as petrocurrency mercantilism. While it’s unclear exactly how ambitious Beijing hopes to be in terms of turning the Spratlys into a military outpost, China’s bold development efforts underscore the degree to which the country isn’t timid when it comes to advancing its interests in the face of Western admonition.

 

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Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:27 | 6086682 cordial savage
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John Kerry Heinz not cutting it?  I mean, he did just get around to meeting with Putin for the first time in two years, so surely he can fit this in.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:35 | 6086719 Deathrips
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The Show Rolls ON!

These morons are going to kick another hornets nest?!

They are naked and theres already a football field size swarm of hornets chasing them.

 

Cant Fix Stupid/ or evil planning.

 

RIPS

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:37 | 6086740 MarkD
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Perhaps they are meeting up to escort another shipment of crapple watches.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:41 | 6086750 Publicus
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Japan would be smart if they join China/Russia for the upcoming World War 3.

 

It's a much more defendable position to be in. Be defended by both Russia and China from the Fascists on the other side of the Pacific. It's a dream position really.

 

Versus trying to hold off both Russia and China and hope for a few fleets from across the ocean to arrive. Not that they will change anything.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:53 | 6086823 Publicus
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During the Cold War, China and Russia were fighting eaching other. That was the only reason Japan was able to survive as a state.

 

Now, the situation is vastely different, Japan can not survive unless they realign themselves. Or it will be done for them.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:57 | 6086852 suteibu
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Hey, I agree that Japan ought to start acting like the Asian nation they obviously are.  The point is the US has too much influence among the Japanese elite to allow them to crawl out from under America's skirt. 

The nation voted for Hatoyama/Ozawa in 2009 on their promise to improve ties with Asia (China) and reduce Japan's dependence on the US.  That lasted less than 9 months before the Obama admin and the America hands in the Japanese bureaucracy took Hatoyama down.

But it's never about what the people want.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:50 | 6087339 espirit
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Have HorseFace send the Premier a box of potatoes.

That ought to put fear in their hearts.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:56 | 6087483 ZerOhead
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In other news... Alex Jones (love him or hate him) is having it out with ABC who offered to pick him up to do an interview about the JADE HELM affair.

For those of you who like me are always a little late to the party... Alex contends the media has been misrepresenting what JADE HELM stands for.

A 2001 (Cheney/Bush era) Air Force Document lists it as... ready for this?

Joint Assistant for Development and Execution  Homeland Eradication of Local Militants Yup.

It is also a referenced from Department of State publication 7277 (that's a lot of 7's) Disarmament Services September 1961. looks like this plan has been in the works for a LOOOOONG time. But who plans like that?

Anyway...

It is described in the document as a DISSIDENT EXTRACTION EXCERCISE (whatever that means but it sure doesn't sound like Obama's version of training for a hostile Middle Eastern country...) Jade probably refers to GREEN which was the color of the military before camo became de riguer... Helm does not require explanation.

 

Here's the lady who found the document...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4h8Pk-9gS4

And here's Alex Jones talking yesterday about the MASSIVE media cover-up and DISINFORMATION campaign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPX6wzqqZvU

 

Anyway... sorry to bother you but it's just in case you missed the buzz... and shut down of the internet in

3...2....1...

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:56 | 6087555 PhilB
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The US still sticking with the idea that it can project safely and controllably its power right in the backyards of Russia and China. This is clearly not a sustainable or even desireable policy in a world US power is in relative decline. Seems like a very dangerous policy. US would have done much better in containing these powers through an inclusive international policy that allowed its allies a stronger voice in shaping their own destines. 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 21:00 | 6087562 ZerOhead
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Listen Phil... I hate to be the guy to have to tell you but they are all in it together on this one.

Before Nixon's visit to China went Heinz Kissinger on behalf of Mr. Rockefeller and the NWO...

? China and the New World Order - YouTube

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 21:14 | 6087603 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Planning artificial islands to project air power is clever and pulling it off demonstrates some true skill. Maybe the Chinese aren't so dull after all. Leave it to uncle satan and the japanese death cult to be suspicious and jealous of such qualities...

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 21:49 | 6087709 ZerOhead
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Turns out I was wrong about what Jade and Helm meant. Well Jade anyway. Damn.

Here goes... from the document...

 

Jade the word stands for the beautiful jade green waters of Oahu where PACOM resides (Pacific Command)

Joint Assistant for Development and Execution is basically a flexible system that allows for changes on the fly to achieve specific military objectives.

Helm is not really anything other than the control necessary to move the World past "serious global ideological differences" with a new Institution of global Peace and Prosperity. So basically the NWO.

As long as they don't engage in an actual nuclear war and get rid of the banksters and the NWO I'm all for it.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 21:59 | 6087773 The Joker
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Joint Assistant for Development and Execution is more than that.  It is crisis training, to speed up response times to crisis using computer networks.  Crisis, as in domestic. 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 21:53 | 6087756 The Joker
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Yep.  Never forget, all the world's a stage.  China and Russia are in on it.  According to this article, if you skip down a bit, about the only people that pose a threat to it are "in the Navy" as the Village People would say.

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2015/05/12/jade-helm-and-operation-red-flag-point-to-the-coming-civil-war/

I think the US wants to send the Navy away from our coast lines and that is what all hoopla is about. 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:00 | 6086865 kowalli
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Stalin refused to deliver nuclear technology to China and we got bad relationship with them

simple as that.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:12 | 6086944 BandGap
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In fact, elements within the Soviet Union tried to set China up against the US -

http://www.submarinebooks.com/RedStar.htm

 

Excellent book

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:28 | 6087012 MonetaryApostate
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Someone in Washington needs to get put in a paddy wagon, like yesterday...

 

200 Million Soldiers Strong, what kind of crack are these Neo-Cons on?

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:46 | 6087318 knukles
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All I can think of is what a shithole being stationed on one of those islands would be.
So much better being active on Jade Helm and eating at the local Dennys on Friday nights with the dancing girls and the liquor store around the corner.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:35 | 6087473 Van Halen
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A couple corrections:

Neo-Libs. Not NeoCons any more.

We have Chuck Norris. So we'll win.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:41 | 6087495 cnmcdee
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When America goes to war with China, Russia will strike without warning - Dumitru Dudumen

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 21:01 | 6087571 MonetaryApostate
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Lib-tards Neo-Cons ~ Neo-Nazis... Same difference to me. :D

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/6/republican-senate-takeove...

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 23:31 | 6088035 bid the soldier...
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Russia and China were allied during the Korean War.

Stalin died in 1953.

You want to believe that Russia and China had a conflict from the mid 60's to the mid 70's, be my guest.

I know you weren't an eye witness to that border dispute between Russia and China, so you must have learned about it third hand from the NYT and WaPo, because they weren't eye witnesses either.

The Border Dispute between Russia and China.

THE HEARSAY WAR.

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 06:20 | 6088629 HolyfieldsOtherEar
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Japan may be able to hold onto good relations with Russia but China is bent on aggressive expansion. It has no right to the islets it grabbed in the Sea of Vietnam and its presence there is a threat to peaceful maritime shipping. This may be the one good bit of gunboat diplomacy the Obama Administration ever does.

 

Japan needs to become more like Israel: a porcupine that may be small but bristles with spines that hurt like a bitch if you try to mess with it.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:38 | 6086752 wee-weed up
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Moar Woar, Bitches!

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:59 | 6086861 upWising
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Bring on John Kerry....

A Deranged, Clumsy Horse in a China Shop

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:36 | 6087478 Van Halen
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And that stupid hippie James Taylor and his shitty earworm song.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:25 | 6087008 angel_of_joy
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US is too bankrupt for any war ! We could start one, but others will be in charge to finish it... More posturing from Obozo & The Horse band !

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:30 | 6087030 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Time to kill Bin Laden again.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:49 | 6087522 Terminus C
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It's about time we go and kill that fuckin' cave dweller.  Cave dwellerz is dangerous, takin' down skyscrapers 'n shit!  I can't believe Obama left that sum'bitch alive as long as he has.  

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:56 | 6087362 N3mo
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Hey, this was a Tom Clancy novel! Can't they even come up with their own damned material without plagiarizing from the dead? Have some respect, will ya?

Thu, 05/14/2015 - 13:52 | 6093812 Child of Dragon-Fey
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The U.S. should've done or said something before this became a problem - it was obvious from the start that China wouldn't budge once it got started. It's these morons' faults for even letting the hornets build the nest in the first place.

Thu, 05/14/2015 - 13:55 | 6093813 Child of Dragon-Fey
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The U.S. has created more of a problem in trying to solve it by letting it sit for too long.

Thu, 05/14/2015 - 13:56 | 6093814 Child of Dragon-Fey
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[Edit: clicked 'save' too many times and resubmitted by accident.]

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:58 | 6087150 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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Seems smart. /sarc

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:27 | 6087264 dicksburnt
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that little cock mccain just annoys the livin shit out of me

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:34 | 6087470 Freddie
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The USSA and Japan are bankrupt and corrupt joke.  China should say F U.  Send em one of those anti-ship missiles to sink a g*y Americon ship of sissies.

I do not like China but they are not the Clintons, Bushes, Obala, Kerry or ZOG.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:43 | 6086689 ZerOhead
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< Yes

< No

MOAR Kabuki smokescreen to cover and deflect ange from the inevitable bond/asset bubble pop?

Question: Is a Global Financial Elite multi-national nuclear war planned to usher in their NWO? (Are they really that sociopathically insane?)

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:45 | 6086786 XitSam
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We have always been at war with EastAsia!

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:54 | 6086814 ZerOhead
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Then why are their owners and bankers best friends with our owners and bankers? (Come to think of it we share the same bankers...)

P.S. Please add an 'r' to the 'ange' in the above post. Thx.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:50 | 6086815 Zapporius
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obviously yes.

they have to be that insane to begin with, looking back at what their did over time, and since they are insane, they think they can get away with it.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:32 | 6086705 supafuckinmingster
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The US "may" do a lot of things. Same with every other country, and every person on earth for that matter. Non story.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:33 | 6086716 Usurious
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the sun never sets and the blood never dries on the british
.......I mean the American empire...

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:34 | 6086717 Sages wife
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So what? Britain outright stole Diego Garcia, deported the residents, then gave it to the pentagon to use as a nuclear weapons base. No foul?

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:38 | 6086749 F0ster
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both Islands are two rogue wave away from being Atlanis.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:05 | 6086898 Urban Redneck
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It would be far more efficient to give a HUGE no bid contract to Bechtel to simply build two new islands right next door to the two Chinese islands and gift (or sell) one to Japan and one to the Philippines.

Close the "island gap", start an "island race", think of the millions of "shovel ready jobs" and the additional YEARS that TPTB could extend and pretend...

Oh yeah, and victory through negotiated peace settlement.  Which there seems to be distinct dirth of since the Department of Defense was created...

Bring back the War Department! at least they knew how to get the job done.

 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:49 | 6087335 knukles
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Call out the Kraken HAARP.
Flood the little fuckers into oblivion.

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 00:52 | 6088243 trulz4lulz
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So the Chinese are going to loan the us government money in order to pay Betchel to build a naval base next to their naval base? Unless I'm totally missing the sarcasm here.

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 01:24 | 6088270 Urban Redneck
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Have you looked at US interest rates recently (or repo rates)?  They need moar debt issuance or China to dump inventory (an IPO boom would also help to camouflage the insanity of the printing and flows in that market).  China could use a hety scoop of shovel ready extend and pretend too.

Only in bizarro world is the answer to insanity, keep digging, instead of stop digging.

On paper it actually works.  The physical world is another matter.

 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:37 | 6087482 Freddie
Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:47 | 6086799 Usurious
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Right on...........they also gave palestine to the jews.........

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:53 | 6086830 Max Steel
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What about Guam Islands ? China should take acion agaisnt US because they captured those islands in WAR . 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:54 | 6086836 Dixie Flatline
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According to black democrat Hank Johnson, dey about to capsize.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:06 | 6086906 upWising
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Gentle Readers:

Lest some of you have missed this Wonderful Moment in Congressional History, please now take the two minutes for this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q

The Honourable Gentleman from the Great State of Georgia (Jawja) expresses his fear in a congressional hearing that if all the people on Guam were to suddenly run to one side of the island.....

This, alone, restored MY faith in the Power of Representative Democracy! 

AMERICA!  Jesus' Favorite Country! ©

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:16 | 6086963 homme
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I think you misspelled Gentile.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:53 | 6087348 knukles
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That's just not fair if not downright racist.
Because he's black means that he doesn't have to know that Guam wouldn't capsize.  See, it's folks like you with your White Privilege of knowing everything and racist attitudes of not holding a black man to task for accuracy versus stooopididty, that promulgates this kind of right wing slavery of Congressional members being ridiculed in public for saying shit dumb as a an empty bale of cotton.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 21:24 | 6087651 Kirk2NCC1701
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You mean, it's the HQ of "Jesus Inc".  

The Tax Avoidance game that keeps the Sheeple down, dumb and feeding on BS.

-Kirk, the Guy In The Sky

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 21:27 | 6087672 TeethVillage88s
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The Fat Senator Said: "They Like us over there Boy!"

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 23:03 | 6087950 MonetaryApostate
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They also said, "Where's the call boys?"

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:02 | 6086880 ZerOhead
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..... and Khazars.

Come to think of it mostly Khazars.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:36 | 6086731 F0ster
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TPP or War, got it.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 21:24 | 6087653 TeethVillage88s
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Naw, you're getting TPP and TAP (Atantic version), and you already have a host of other Trade Treaties.

You have Won:

- Collapse; either Currency or Stock-market, Credit, Liquidity, and Bonds
- Insufficient Domestic & Infrastructure Investment
- Dependence on either Government or Corporate Jobs
- Bigger more entrenched Monopolistic Corporations which are REALLY Arms of the Government like in Communication & Internet

Plus as an Added Bonus:

- Economic Crisis Usually also Brings Regional Or World Wars, which the NEOCONS have already laid on for your Smorgasbord

** So eat UP and Enjoy!!

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:38 | 6086747 Space Animatoltipap
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Of course, since Obama, the puppet of the NY/London money mobsters, realises in his greatness the $ is THE tool for peace, stability, prosperity and freedom for everyone. 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 21:09 | 6087588 TeethVillage88s
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The Obamas Learned about being Royalty, how to entertain Hollywood, entertain big political players,... they learned about Power, Protocols of Power, Control of the Media and the Populous, about Empire, and how to act like you are expanding an Empire through Military, Financial, Political, and Economic Power... the Value of US Corporations in Hegemony, how to use State Craft and Monetary Gifts to Influence Powerful Officials in Small Countries.

But they Turned their backs on the Black People and Hispanic Communities. They became Warmongers. The Obamas Deprive common people around the world of Sovereignty, replacing it with Torture, Rendition, Dirty Wars, and Drone Strikes on Women and Kids.

But Barack and Michelle can not tell their kids what they have done.

They are not just Power Players or just Puppets. They are War Criminals and Constitutional Criminals.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:53 | 6086751 Fukushima Fricassee
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Military moral and quality are at all time lows. The US military is as homosexual as the commader and cocksucker Obama,  and they could not defeat fucking Mexican dope cartels who sport high caliber fast and furious guns. Everyone worth a damn in the military has been forced out quit or been fucked up. Best leave China alone dumbass US government.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:58 | 6086863 DutchBoy2015
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Lots of faggots now in the military.  Its legal now. 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:36 | 6087053 The Blank Stare
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Correction: everyone worth a damn in the military are now asshole thugs in the New American Police Army.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:39 | 6086754 inevitablecollapse
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I have an idea you fucking morons, how about letting Japan and China settle it?  Allies or not, I literally give zero fucks about this.  We (our country) is a prostitute bleeding from every orifice, yet in our case, we actually begged for it...

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:44 | 6086778 kowalli
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USA need a war and chaos at every possible situation to save a dollar.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 21:00 | 6087568 TeethVillage88s
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Big Brother say Corporate Wars for Corporate Profits means a Healthy US GDP.

In this case clearly War is Peace, War is Democracy, and War is Justice. But mostly War Spending will 'Lift All Boats' just as QE, ZIRP, and Zero tax for Apple, Amazon, GE, and GM will.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 22:24 | 6087833 Kirk2NCC1701
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Not an ELE* war, mind you, but just enough to provide cover for the Dollar's demotion as the GRC.

* Extinction Level Event 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:39 | 6086756 kowalli
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What about Russian tanks in Ukraine? USA can do good photos, prove is above...

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:57 | 6086854 DutchBoy2015
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Ukraine has all Russian weapons.  has had them for years. 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:01 | 6086869 kowalli
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im talking about russian army, you know sanctions and etc...

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:57 | 6087557 TeethVillage88s
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Latest is Chinese Tanks in Ukraine, great resolution in photos. S/

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:40 | 6086760 Sudden Debt
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50% unemployment... great way to get rid of the surplus population.

BRING IN THE PATRIOTS!!

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:13 | 6086949 czarangelus
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They're all too fucking fat to fight.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:03 | 6087169 813kml
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That just means they make better human shield, Shanghai their fat asses and ship them to Beijing.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:55 | 6087550 TeethVillage88s
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The Great thing about Communism or Fascism in the USSA, we are into Perfectionism.

Everybody will talk the same, look the same, where a uniform, and if you are fat you will lose weight eating the same calories as everybody else.

Blood and Guts is our Role Model. Get off you ass, even if you are mentally deficient, elderly, under 16 years of age, and even if you are missing limbs.

Plus keep your mouth shut and be PC.

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 20:32 | 6091467 StychoKiller
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Tastes like Chicken?

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:42 | 6086772 alexcojones
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Always the dumbfuck civilians who never served who so quickly want WAR.

CHENEY, OBAMA, HILLARY, WOLFOWITZ, Et al

Fuck ALL Ziocons

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 21:51 | 6087754 Freddie
Freddie's picture

Retarded Americans who watch TV and Hollywood shit plus ball games like retards. 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:48 | 6086774 Kaiser Sousa
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3 words from the chinese to dead man walking BANKRUPT hegemon...

"release the bonds...."

the U.S. government is a fucking joke.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:05 | 6086897 Winston Churchill
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Nuclear bonders ?

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:51 | 6087535 TeethVillage88s
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Except 7 biggest TBTJ banks say they want to buy more US Treasuries over the next Year...

Bloomberg Yesterday.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:43 | 6086775 Schmuck Raker
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Run the USS Taylor aground on one of the islands. Scared the hell out of the Russkies!

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:44 | 6086779 suteibu
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"Several US allies in the region have been privately urging the White House to do more to challenge Chinese behavior, warning Washington that U.S. inaction in the South China Sea risked inadvertently reinforcing Beijing’s territorial claims, U.S. officials said."

That's bullshit.  Those allies sit on their fucking thumbs waiting to be told what to do.  The US government can not do anything without lying about it.  It's fucking embarrassing.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:56 | 6087361 knukles
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You mean to tell me that this would be MOAR Distracting Fear Porn?

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:44 | 6086780 RobD
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Has anyone else noticed that the Atlanta Fed GDP now tracker has stopped tracking? Has not been updated since May 5th. Was updated four times from April 30 to may 5th. Since then......crickets

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:03 | 6086888 ZerOhead
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Hacked by ISIS again?

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:58 | 6086856 nosoeawe
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the only military action the long legged, big eared, jihadist-in-chief will use is against the citizens of the united states. the Chinese have nothing to worry about.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 17:58 | 6086860 homiegot
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China's put out the dumnass bait, and Obama bit.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:02 | 6086879 DutchBoy2015
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Americunt military are a bunch of fucking pussies who can't survive without a PX or cookies from MOM,

They can't even beat a bunch of goat herders in Afghanistan,.

 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:09 | 6086908 ZerOhead
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And who have the Dutch beat lately? I mean other than their pot smoking children?  ;)

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:57 | 6087364 knukles
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Hah ha ha ha ha ha ha   ++++++

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:09 | 6086925 madashellron
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They would only confront China is they were trying to kill 90% of the population.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:15 | 6086957 BlowsAgainstthe...
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“It’s important that everyone in the region have a clear understanding of exactly what China is doing,” a U.S. official said. “We’ve got to get eyes on.”

 

NOT. OUR. PROBLEM.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:16 | 6086961 general ripper
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What's wrong with you guys?

This is "peace in our time" Don't you recognize history in the making?

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:20 | 6086980 goldman58
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Having spent 3 1/2 years in China I can tell you with 110% certainty that these people ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS.

With the exception of a few, they cannot be trusted. They will steal the eyeballs right out of your head while you are not watching and they have a real 'hard on' for much of the world. They use the excuse that they were beaten down and abused by just about every other civilized nation for the past thousand years or so But that's BULLSHIT. They were abused by their own emperors and then by that fat pig of a creature, 'Mao Tse Tung'.

The Chinese are all about revenge. And they are going to stick it up the ass of anyone they feel is getting in their way. I would hate to be living in Japan if the USA bails out on Japan. They hate the Japanese above all others. They cant let the 'Rape of Nanking' go. That is the sign of a country that is not civilized. A country that seeks only revenge for things that happened in the past.

Yep, forget about Isis and Iran and North Korea and all the others that hate our guts. It is China that is the biggest threat to the United States right now and going forward.

They are barbaric bullies and nothing more than thieves and liars.

 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:26 | 6087014 Max Steel
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Never go full retard

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:59 | 6087366 espirit
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Must be why Obozo handed them the keys to the USSA.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:27 | 6087020 Monty Burns
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I'm sure the Chinese are not America's friends. But then why would they be? And I'm equally sure, even more sure, that they do not represent a military threat to the West.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:44 | 6087083 suteibu
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The Chinese are no different than Americans or Japanese or just about anyone.  If the Chinese government came to terms with the Japanese government (whatever concessions or apologies, etc that means) the Chinese people would respond positively.  Political agenda can always turn the crowd any which way they want.  It's what government does. 

As for China not being civilized, that is simply your RAH RAH! USA! USA! Judeo-Christian Manifest Destiny talking.  That was the same language used against the Japanese as an excuse for Perry's invasion and again after Pearl Harbor (decades after Japan was officially deemed "civilized" by the US). 

Based on all of that, you are obviously a troll.  Fuck off.

 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 22:23 | 6087827 Cityzerosix
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Was watching a film Nanjing! Nanjing! the other night; pretty grim.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 22:44 | 6087897 suteibu
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So was the fire-bombing of Tokyo and Dresden and the A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and yet Japan and Germany are allies of the US.

It's all about the agenda.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 22:56 | 6087928 Cityzerosix
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Mass-murder is never justifiable in any moral world; but never ceases.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:01 | 6087369 bid the soldier...
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so

A country that seeks only revenge for things that happened in the past.

You mean like the US and Cuba and the US and Iran

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 23:24 | 6088020 Joe A
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Or the US and 9/11 and flattening Iraq (that had nothing to do with it) for it.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:23 | 6086993 Hannibal
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So the Pentagon wants to subdue China and Russia, just like Lybia, Iraq, Syria ect.?

I think not.!

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:25 | 6087007 Monty Burns
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What the f*ck have the Spratley Islands got to do with America? Hasn't it enough problems elsewhere?

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:27 | 6087021 Max Steel
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Spartlay islands = Chinese version of Guam Islands . Thats the problem . loosing exceptionalism 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:34 | 6087471 TeethVillage88s
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The End Game is Clear. USA NEOCONS and their Brethren the Democrats Transferred US Military and other Technology to the Chinese, so that they can play Games with Peoples lives.

Those in power can chose some of the 'Losers', Create Huge Debt Class, Larger Slave Class, Kill Millions, and compete as the 'Love' to for Power, Control, Status, Kingship, and Wealth.

The Families of the Winners in World War III will be the New Class of Aristocrats.

Pawns:

- Military
- Policy
- Prisoners working for pennies
- Chinese Serfs
- Most Americans since they can't see the Strategic Planning the has Stripped Liberty, Equality, Brotherhood, and the Pursuit of Happiness from the Idea of "America"

** The Federal Government & Banking System are not your Friends and ARE NOT Helping you, Protecting you, or Respecting you **

*** Hell US Private and Public Leaders are NOT EVEN Telling you the Truth ***

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:34 | 6087045 WTFUD
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Are the Americans only going to arm ' The Free Maoist Liberation Army or the more ruthless Chinese students in this pursuit of D.E.M.O.C.R.A.C.EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:38 | 6087058 Ginsengbull
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Japan already kicked both Russia and Chinas collective asses many times.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:43 | 6087080 Max Steel
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many times ¿ nope .

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:51 | 6087111 suteibu
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The last time Japan kicked Russia's ass was in 1905 (financed by Western bankers and encouraged by American politicians).  Many cite the fear (both in Tokyo and Washington) of Russian invasion of Japan in 1945 as the real reason for Japan's surrender to the US.  Not an historian but I do not believe that the US has ever defeated Russia (just to throw that into the conversation).

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:51 | 6087113 suteibu
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dupe

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:46 | 6087092 q99x2
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If you print money they will come.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:49 | 6087106 pine_marten
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The money printers desperately need obfuscation.   At any cost.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:52 | 6087116 HenryHall
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Non-event. The Chinese have already invited them to come visit their new bases.

The Americans will be welcomed as honored guests, fellow mariners.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:53 | 6087118 TheGreatRecovery
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dup.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:53 | 6087119 TheGreatRecovery
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dup.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:53 | 6087120 TheGreatRecovery
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dup.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:34 | 6087122 TheGreatRecovery
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A: Now the Chinese are giving me the finger.  (I think.  Anyway, they looked at me funny. and I felt bad.)

G: SEND THE FLEET!  SEND THE FLEET!

MSM: SEND THE FLEET!  SEND THE FLEET!

Presidential candidates:  SEND THE FLEET!  SEND THE FLEET!

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:56 | 6087125 Chuck Knoblauch
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Chinese should attack on the Shabbos.

Jews don't roll on Shabbos.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:50 | 6087526 going to guns
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that was a good laughChuck.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 21:08 | 6087587 Zapporius
Zapporius's picture

Dude, what's wrong with Walter?

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 18:55 | 6087129 Super Hans
Super Hans's picture

What a joke! Who would have thought we would have a spat with our primary supplier of all things sold retail?

WTF?

You can stop by a Kroger near you and purchase Crawdad's, Frogs Legs, Shrimp and fish from China.

Do you feel comfortable buying any food from China?

Fucki it!

H

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 23:51 | 6088097 reader2010
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The plan is to bring back jobs to those fema camps and there are plenty of free labor in the USA. 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:25 | 6087258 BoPeople
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That is soooooo stupid. Chinese bankers and parasites think that China needs a war and population reduction as much as US bankers and elitist parasites think the US needs a war and population reduction.

If there is a war it will be a spectator sport designed to eliminate a few of our sons and daughters. If only the people who created the war actually fought the war, all would be good. Eventually, that type of people would be weeded out of society and we could get on with improving this world.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:26 | 6087262 Chuck Knoblauch
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Jew General Jack Weinstein doesn't roll on Shabbos.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:49 | 6087523 TeethVillage88s
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Neither does Jack Lew?

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:35 | 6087288 anachronism
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For all intents and purposes, the Chinese are building islands on the open seas. Territorial claims on specks of land in the middle of the ocean by countries that can barely get a fishing boat out there, much less a permanent naval presence, are ridiculous! What is the United States think it is doing here?

The Chinese are developing a resource with the means and the will it has at its disposal. These other countries are trying to use a legal artifice to establish that they have claims over places for which they do not have the will nor the resources to establish. The Egyptians may just as well lay claim to Cyprus or Crete! Or the Indians to Diego Garcia. 

There is zero strategic requirement for the United States to deny China its presence in the South China Sea. As long as we can control the Straits of Malacca and the waters around the Philippines, nothing gets into or through the South China Sea from the Indian or Pacific Oceans unless the US Navy allows it.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 23:42 | 6088068 Kirk2NCC1701
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Note that the Greek Navy controls the Straights of Malaka.

;-)

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:39 | 6087300 Jack Burton
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"the U.S. military is considering using aircraft and Navy ships to directly contest Chinese territorial claims"

Anyone familiar with the over 200 year western domination and rape of China, will some idea of just how much China is not ready to accept American domination of them now in 2015. The Washington Military cabal seem to recognize no limits to their power. Having pushed Russia to the point where most Russians now believe that to survive as a nation, only a war will be enough.  Obama has flatly told them that Washington rules Russia, and that NATO is prepared to enforce US domination of the Russian national interests. Now, we have the smae Washington Cabal speaking openly of a military attack on China, and ordering China to comply with US domination or be ready for war.

The US wasted a decade or more and over 2.5 trillion dollars in failed conquests of both Iraq and Afghanistan. After losing all 2.5 trillion to waste and failure, that same Washington is preparing to confront Russia and China. If attack Iraq cost a trillion dollars, care to make a guess on what a direct attack on Russia will cost, at the same time sending 75% of Americans modern military forces to confront China in the East China Seas?

So, the Zionist rulers of Washington think they can poney up around 5 trillion dollars minimum over the next 5 years to confront militarily both Russia and China.

THATS A FUCK ALL LOT OF MONEY PRINTING!

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:01 | 6087370 rsnoble
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Russia and China have a lot of gold.  The war will practically pay for itself.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 23:02 | 6087947 NoDecaf
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Military confrontation with Russia and China will not take 5 years....it'll take 30 minutes at mach 21.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 23:54 | 6088111 reader2010
reader2010's picture

$1000 trillions or even moar. Inflate or Die,  BitChez! 

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:43 | 6087314 rsnoble
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The US sure is busy fucking the entire world, including itself, all at once these days.  Almost as if they try to outdo themselves on a daily basis.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:07 | 6087388 SirBarksAlot
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Remember when we used to have a domestic policy?

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:39 | 6087492 kowalli
kowalli's picture

nope

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:47 | 6087325 p00k1e
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We can take 'em.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 19:58 | 6087365 Reaper
Reaper's picture

A Chinese inscrutable power grab. The affirmatively educated moron will scrutinize the Chinese.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:01 | 6087372 Budnacho
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Personally,  I look forward to seeing in my lifetime the latest crop of Kamikaze 2.0 on Cruise Missiles.... "No Hideo, YOU are the guidance package!...."

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:06 | 6087385 SirBarksAlot
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Silk Road enhancements and extra ports.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:12 | 6087403 BlussMann
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6/19/11  Craig Whitlock, Washington Post. Navy has cashiered 29 Commanding officers in past 18 months. Sexual harassment,  alcohol identified. Since Jan 2011 12 Commanding officers have been dismissed. 23 CO’s were dismissed in 2003

  Also, the US Navy, around 2011, announced it would be discrimnating against White men in recruiting officers since it wanted its new officers corps to look brown and black, like its average service member.

Who do you think is more competent in a showdown - American Black and Tans or the Yellows ? I'll bet on the Yellows in this game of Chinese Checkers.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:15 | 6087414 p00k1e
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Who dealt the white guys out?  

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:28 | 6087456 BlussMann
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Sec of Navy and presumably top brass. Army announced it would be doing the same.

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:38 | 6087486 p00k1e
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The white dudes are dealing themselves out?

Goodfellas Restaurant Scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPtjyqgZAUk

Tue, 05/12/2015 - 20:13 | 6087409 p00k1e
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Russia stated they will build a high-speed rail corridor between London and New York.

Hmmm…. 

LOL

Get ready! 

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