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Bond Bloodbath? Putting The Jump In Rates Into Perspective

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Today saw bond yields once again spiking higher...

 

Sparking headlines galore and "told-you-so"s from the bond bears (and greatly rotating stock bulls), but as STA Wealth Management's Lance Roberts notes, these moves need to be put into context...

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Finally we offer this chart - what "moron" - as Jim Cramer called them last night - would by Bunds?

 

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Wed, 05/13/2015 - 12:41 | 6089729 Arrowflinger
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No liquidity trap exists in a world of endless electronic money

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 12:47 | 6089756 LawsofPhysics
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So long as that "money' is still accepted, yes.

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 12:55 | 6089789 knukles
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Well, the CB's ,politicians et al have done such a fine fucking job of decimating their own currency creation now, under the guise of stability (Actually wealth transfer, tax, etc) they're thinking of outlawing their very own living abortion... currency

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/comment/11602399/Ban-...

 

World's going (excuse me, GONE) to shit.

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 13:56 | 6089966 ThaBigPerm
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Is this not comparing apples to hubcaps?  What QE bond-buying program was in effect over the last century or two to suppress interest rates?

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 13:57 | 6089970 new game
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right on knuk; certainly assumes we are NOT in times of uncertainty never before experienced.

let us talk just debt, overall to gdp. alone that says fucked, but no no we have a new metrix xyz/gdp. fuck yea, all good with rates doing a tempoary rip up. because they(the b/gangsters) will never let rates normalize or they would be fucked, not the common pleb pleeeze, fuck off fed..

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 15:37 | 6090437 Spitzer
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Guy is a fool.

Japan had a crazy high savings rate and export surplus for most of those years. There is no comparo.

The US has not had a trade surplus since the Ford admin and this clown is comparing that to Japan ?

Why did rates rise in 1997 in Thailand/Korea/Tigers when their trade deficit/bubble economy popped ? Using this guys logic, their rates should have stayed low. They spiked.

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 12:50 | 6089774 Burt Gummer
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Well we all know one thing for sure and that is QE4 is guaranteed..... keep stacking.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h56UaFEpCOw

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 12:53 | 6089785 gmak
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A liquidity trap is when there is easing or printing ad nauseum, but the liquidity does not get trasmuted into economic growth.  By definition, a liquidity trap requires endless electronic money to exist.

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 14:18 | 6090039 new game
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trap is set because the underlying assets get moar fucked as they create moar debt...

greece 101

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 13:16 | 6089749 KnuckleDragger-X
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But they are a SAFE investment and nothing can go wrong.  The time of the educated investor is long past, now we have sheep lining up at the casino door, trading their money for game chips.....

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 12:47 | 6089757 SoilMyselfRotten
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We have to remember the 2008 playbook. When the CBs need to usher people into bonds they will dropkick the stock market. That time could be near.

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 12:57 | 6089797 buzzsaw99
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in other words git back in the kitchen and make me a sammich bitchez

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 12:59 | 6089800 disabledvet
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I just look at growth and call that "the interest rate." Europe is "booming" at .3 percent...hence yields at .3 percent.

 

The USA is in fact contracting.  That says to me yields should be negative.

 

Of course there is default risk in the USA as Keynesianism has failed.

 

The only "escape velocity" it has achieved is the air escaping from the real estate bubble that is contracting yet again.

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 13:01 | 6089808 buzzsaw99
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apparently uncle sam doesn't mind paying higher treasury rates as long as the maggots can have fun with their stock market party

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 13:30 | 6089872 Fukushima Fricassee
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Cap gains 28% so it's a wash for Obama and the big G.

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 13:11 | 6089831 i_call_you_my_base
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The humanity.

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 15:14 | 6090314 Consuelo
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Where's the 'Oh...!'   You forgot the 'OH'...!!!

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 14:28 | 6090075 cn13
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Traders are selling into the FED's buying binges in bond market.

Haven't seen this type of price action in years.

Something bad is definately up.

Wed, 05/13/2015 - 15:00 | 6090208 enloe creek
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