Former U.S. Government Official: U.S. Is ALREADY at War with China and Russia

George Washington's picture

Top economic and political experts say we're drifting towards World War 3. And see this.

We noted in March that we're already at war with Russia.  Many experts agree ...

Former White House official Dr. Philippa Malmgren - former presidential adviser and member of the U.S. President's Working Group on Financial Markets - said last December that the United States is already at war with China and Russia:

I was recently at a meeting with a lot of very senior people from the defense community, and their view is that we are already in a nose-to-nose confrontation (war) with China and Russia.  But these (wars) are being conducted through cyberspace rather than through traditional conventional weapons.

An advisor to the US government - Scott Borg, CEO of US Cyber Consequences Unit - says that the United States has already started launching widespread hostile cyber warfare against Russia, China and Iran.

Indeed, the U.S. has admitted that it deployed cyber-warfare against Iran's nuclear power plant.

Paul Craig Roberts – former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under President Reagan, former editor of the Wall Street Journal, listed by Who’s Who in America as one of the 1,000 most influential political thinkers in the world  – says that U.S. war against Russia has already begun.

Mark Galeotti - a Full Professor of Global Affairs at the Center for Global Affairs at New York University, and a prominent expert on modern Russia - says "the West and Russia are already at war".

Ron Paul says that sanctions are an act of war ... and we've had sanctions on Russia and Iran for some time now.  And see this.

And the U.S. is threatening military confrontation in the South China Sea. China is taking the threat seriously.

Remember, Russia and the U.S. each have enough nuclear weapons to wipe each other out ... and American, British, Polish and Russian Experts warn that continued fighting in Ukraine could lead to nuclear war.

The Pentagon reports that China now had ballistic missiles which can hit nearly the entirety of the U.S. with nuclear warheads.

Russia and China are in a military alliance, and are conducting joint military exercises.

China has warned the U.S. to stop its Ukranian proxy war against Russia.

China and Russia have both said that an attack on Iran - or Syria - will be considered an act of war against the Bear and the Dragon. We're already in Syria trying to overthrow Assad, and we've been supporting terrorists in Iran for many years.

On the other side of the coin, a former high-level Commander in the German Army warns:

NATO is formed out of 28 states, if just one of them gets involved into a conflict with Russia, the contract obliges all of them to assist. And out of a sudden we get a third world war. The only way to prevent it is if the people rise and say: Russia had to mourn more than enough victims in WWII, do you really want to start a war again?

What could possibly go wrong?

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fremannx's picture

Gorbachev has been warning of the potential for war for some time. His ominous remarks from last year seem prescient today.

 http://www.globaldeflationnews.com/gorbachev-warns-of-major-war-even-nuc...

Reaper's picture

When does war begin? With posturing, with moving military forces/equipment, with taking economic action, with actions against a perceived enemy within, with the first shot fired, or when the greater psychopath acts first. Greater fools believe they are the chosen, the master race, the exceptional, protected by some god and/or destiny.

The gods praise them, whom they'll destroy. The psychopaths praise the obedient fools whom they'll destroy.

silentboom's picture

More military contractors causing more havoc and raking in more money.  This is likely why Raytheon bought websense.  The government is moving online and taking over the internet and the neocons will not be left out.

 

http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/4Dcybersecurity/

large_wooden_badger's picture

Remember the good old days, when we had war?

SnatchnGrab's picture

To suggest we wouldn't wipe the floor militarily with Russia is laughable. The only defense they have is size. (I do respect their AF capabilities) Now, if you view the world through a religious prism (certainly the Muslims do), then a more apt question would be - shouldn't we be allies, at least insofar as the Islamic world is concerned?

 

China? Again, very large, and there's a lot of em. Ground war against China would mean finally ridding ourselves of N Korea and turning them into an ally. (NK can bloody SK, end of the day, it's just a matter of time)

 

 

Dathedr's picture

But why don't you try Murican trash? Just to see what happens to that scum bred shithole Murica after that, hm, Anglo trash?

Dathedr's picture

Stupid Murican scum fully showing his idiocy again! ehehehe

Reader1's picture

Nothing personal, but what you said is so absolutely stupid and short-sighted, I couldn't help logging in to tell you about it.  It does not matter if we have a bigger military, better equipment, or cooler haircuts.

We will *NOT* win in a war with Russia and/or China.  Even if we were to bomb them flat in the first 10 seconds, we would not win.

Russia and China are more than ready to destroy America without firing a single shot.  Fighting a war with tanks and planes is so retro, we only do it anymore with backwards cavemen in Afghanistan and weirdbeards in the MiddleEast.  The day we actually try to take on a real power, like Russia or China, is the day our infrastructure gets turned off via hackers, saboteurs, or EMP.  They play chess, we play checkers.   What more do you need to know?

 

TrulyStupid's picture

The US hasn't had a great track record at wiping the floor in Iraq, Afghanistan and of course Vietnam. They did beat the shit out of Granada though.

To think that there will be no consequences of an invasion of Russia requires a level of self deception inspired by a death wish.. like "end of times".

Ace006's picture

The NVA were beaten militarily despite absurd rules of engagement and interference by LBJ. The same political stupidity obtained in the other wars we've fought.

Cease and desist with the cheap shots.

Mike Honcho's picture

Have you lost your flippin mind?  You say "we", so if you think the US could invade and ground war a win against China and/or Russia, then you need at the very least to read more, and worst case scenario a trip to Bellevue.

Dathedr's picture

And the whole world is at war with Anglozionist Empire!

Mike Masr's picture

What wars has Russia started? Georgia attacked South Ossetia and Russia finished it.  The US started the war in Ukraine when the illegal, U.S.-funded junta in Kiev, instituted by political organizations given five billion dollars by Washington, as revealed by “fuck the EU” Victoria Nuland. Ukraine was broke, and political parties and organizations were vastly financed by foreign nations, (US & EU) which then encouraged them to foment a coup. The junta in Kiev then illegally deposed the democratic president, and then illegally deposed all of its governors. The Ukrainians in the east had every right to not want to be governed by the junta. This is now another US proxy war.

These do not even compare to the long list of US wars after Vietnam.    

SnatchnGrab's picture

Your knowledge of military history is laughable. Starting in 1970:

 

Russia involved in supplying weapons and advisors throughout the middle east.

Russia involved in supplying weapons and advisors throughout Africa.

Russia invades Afghanistan after their puppet "invites" them.

Ossetia

Tajikistan

Georgia (1993)

Chechnya (1994-1996)

Georgia (2008)

Ukraine

 

That's off the top of my head. To suggest that Russia ISN'T doing exactly what the US is (spying, KGB v CIA, et al) doing is naive. 

 

Dathedr's picture

And do you Murican retardus even know where Chechenia is? In Russia, you idiot! And tell, retardus, why are you listing Ossetia, Tajikistan, Georgia and Ukraine there? Are you that ignorant and stupid that you don't know it was your Murican governemt or Western proxies like Saudi Arabia who organized and initiated all the mess there (except Ossetia and Abkhazia who fough for its independence in the 90s against Georgia)? You obviously are, retardus! And what about Tajikistan? Are you trying to say that you are unhappy Western NGOs haven't done a better job at fomenting unrest there? You are so stupid! A genuine Murican idiot! ehehe

dizzyfingers's picture

"Balance of power" restored.

flapdoodle's picture

What is this "Russia" you talk about?

You mean the USSR I assume? The country where most of the nomenklatura were tribe members, who abandoned ship and installed themselves in TelAviv and Hollywood, and turned into "reformed Marxists" under the label of neocons??

rwe2late's picture

 SnatchnGrab

The "top of your head" is insufficient without something underneath.

Your listing of Georgia(2008) and Ukraine is in denial of the facts as summarized by Mike Masr.

Any claim that the NSA global spying and that the CIA's global network for kidnapping, assassinations and torture is "exactly" comparable to what the Russians are doing is nonsense.

 

And even IF Russian spying were equivalent to the NSA-USA's, (it is not),

it would still pale in significance because

the spying is perhaps the least of the USA's international crimes and aggressions

(though certainly a major violation of the Constitution domestically)

 

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Shitgum Suicide (not verified) May 14, 2015 6:56 AM

So why don't you mention the cyber attacks by China and Russia? Why don't you mention all the other acts of war that china and of Russia have engaged in for a lot longer than Barry's been in office.

Why am I asking for a full view from you? Oh that's right that's not what you do. So I will continue to hound you because you're a gutless coward!

Or maybe you're a bot.

rwe2late's picture

 SS

why don't YOU mention some of the recent Chinese & Russian "acts of war"

that you believe are comparable to the US actions in say:

Syria/Iraq/Afghanistan/Ukraine/Georgia/Libya/Ukraine/Pakistan/Somalia/Yemen/Serbia

or are equivalent to establishing a global network for kidnapping, assassinations & torture,

(and perhaps mention even what is comparable to the acts of war committed by the US militarily backed proxies like Israel and Saudi Arabia).

Please do inform us all.

Shitgum Suicide's picture
Shitgum Suicide (not verified) rwe2late May 14, 2015 9:32 AM

Just who do think is the ally of Iran/ Syria/ and the former Iraq regime under saddam? Where do you think saddam got those Scud missle launchers from North Korea? I don't the space to lay down the litany of acts of war that Russia has engaged in.

Not to long ago it was admitted by our military that the Russians have appeared off our ahores with subs that went Undetected. Remember the "contrail" that was fired off the California coast and it wasn't ours.

On 9/11' russian bombers were doing their war game bs up near Alaska just before the attacks. Can you say smoke screen?

People talk about controlling both sides of the conflict here all the time. The Russians knew about the zarniev's and did what about it in their home land. Remember the hot russian spy who was caught by our government but Obie sent her home with no punishment only to receive a heros welcome.

Stop sucking the russian bears dick cuz that's all that seems to happen here anymore.

Or maybe you are all just bots. Maybe I'm just a bot.

rwe2late's picture

SS

"I don't the space to lay down the litany of acts of war that Russia has engaged in"

 

What you don't have for your imagined litany isn't the space.

nowhereman's picture

Unfortunately, you seem to have been Bernayed by the government and their media subsidiary.  I know, it allows you to sleep soundly at night believing in your moral superiority, However, your sleep walking during the day becomes quite evident.

flapdoodle's picture

Don't forget Kosovo/Serbia - that is the real poker tell that gave the game away - its just that we didn't realize it.

At the time, the Kosovo/Serbia intervention made absolutely no sense to me at all, now its very clear what it was about.

oudinot's picture

SHIT:  WHY DON'T YOU TAKE YOUR HALF ASSED IDEAS AND STICK THEM UP YOUR ASS!!

yOU ARE ONE DUMB PRICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

rsnoble's picture

Cyberspace, proxy wars, ground skirmishes and finally NUKES.

KashNCarry's picture

The psychopaths with their finger on the trigger make the miscalculation that the Russian & Chinese military will back down because they see how insane the psychopaths truly are willing to destroy themselves as well as all of humanity...

rsnoble's picture

We're all human, chances are Russia and China also have their little group of shithead psycho's.

nowhereman's picture

When it comes to shithead psycho's, my impressions of Obama vs Putin, clearly leans in favor of Obama and his handlers as title holders.

NuYawkFrankie's picture

The USSA is AT WAR  with ANYONE that doesn't fall in with the ZIO Criminal Cabal  Agenda -

including its own  subjects in the "Homeland".

GuusjA's picture

Frans Timmermans: "People are dying. We cannot remain silent". 

 

In het systeem 'Liegen om te Leven' gebruikt netwerk WitteGejT het SCHULD=H00P-principe om mensen te inspireren tot 'goed gedrag'. Met een diploma en zonder een crimineel paspoort mag je de elite dienen. Maar gaat het leven niet zoals je het had geplanned dan blijf je achter met schulden en dan voel je pas echt wat onze beschaving je te bieden heeft. 

 

http://www.trouw.nl/tr/nl/4500/Politiek/article/detail/4019393/2015/05/1...

 

Natuurlijk presenteerde de Europese Commissie gisteren niet het systeem 'Leven en Laten Leven', maar 'een verdeelsleutel' zodat 'de opvang van vluchtelingen eerlijk wordt verdeeld over de 28 lidstaten van de Europese Unie'. Het begrip 'eerlijk' is overigens gedefinieerd aan de hand van 'de sterkte van de economie', 'de bevolkingsdichtheid', 'het aantal vluchtelingen dat al in het land is' en 'de werkloosheidscijfers'. Natuurlijk staan al deze criteria bloot aan discussie en dit heeft netwerk Juncker graag, want anders had de Commissie geen bestaansrecht. Waarschijnlijk de reden dat men niet heeft gekozen om het systeem 'Leven en Laten Leven' te promoten.

 

Vluchtelingen mogen overigens niet denken dat ze Europa binnen kunnen komen zoals het eerste de beste wilde dier. Er moet zelfs 'een militaire operatie op touw worden gezet' om 'het businessplan' van mensensmokkelaars te ontregelen.  Uiteraard moet de EU eerst toestemming krijgen van de Veiligheidsraad om aanvallen uit te oefenen bij de kust van Libië. Het is duidelijk dat de eerste stappen om de wereldbevolking te decimeren worden gezet. 

 

http://www.trouw.nl/tr/nl/4496/Buitenland/article/detail/4020110/2015/05...

 

Staatssecretaris Jetta Klijnsma (Sociale Zaken) heeft al gemompeld 'dat iedereen die bij een gemeente aanklopt individueel moet worden bekeken'. Klijnsma adviseert de mensen die niet geholpen worden naar de gemeenteraad of de ombudsman te stappen. Zodoende wordt de druk op de rechtstaat van Nederland opgevoerd om het systeem 'Liegen om te Leven' te ontmantelen.

 

http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2015/05/14/schuldenaren-moeten-voor-hulp-voldoe...

 

In Rotterdam wordt 'de koranwedstrijd voor kinderen vanaf een leeftijd van acht jaar' niet gezien als een 'theater van de lach' om zo 'de psychosegelovige denkbeelden te ontmaskeren', maar is voor Leefbaar Rotterdam het seintje dat Nederland de 'wiskundige definitie van de absolute waarheid van Spinoza moet omarmen. 

 

flapdoodle's picture

Public masturbation is pretty revolting.

GuusjA's picture
GuusjA (not verified) GuusjA May 14, 2015 6:14 AM

Indien de Griekse minister van Financiën Yannis Varoufakis zich had gehouden aan het script van de 3e SpinozaGolf dan had hij vandaag de eerste stap moeten zetten om het systeem 'Liegen om te Leven' te ontmantelen.

 

http://www.volkskrant.nl/economie/griekenland-wil-uitstel-van-ecb~a4021868/

 

Griekenland bezit ook een fractie van de macht van de ECB om 'gratis geld' te creëren. De 'aanpassing van de aflossingsverplichtingen' moet dan ook niet gebeuren 'met behulp van het Europese noodfonds ESM' maar dat de ECB alle staatsobligaties die zijn opgekocht gaat kwijtschelden. Natuurlijk is dit de doodsteek voor het SCHULD=H00P-filosofie en moeten de Financiële Markten maar bepalen wat voor impact dit heeft voor de verschillende beursgenoteerde rechtspersonen. 

 

Sambo's picture

Feel sorry for Bernanke. He is taking a lot of beating these days. People do not realise that all public faces of all governments, Central banks, media etc are puppets. The puppet master is smiling. The entertainer has become the entertained.

World war 3 is inevitable in the present geo-political scenario. I just hope there will at least be a few million survivers to carry on the human race. Else it is extinction, an end to a sorry chapter of man's earthly existence.

nowhereman's picture

Just think of all the free iradiated land that becomes available after it's over.  Bet there's money to be made there/sarc

WTFUD's picture

You forgot the sarc tag in the first paragraph. Bernanke glories in this role as puppet and scum like him heavily influence the nextgen of ivy league sociopaths. Further the most serious astute people in the world are comedians; It's easy to make people cry, just stick 5 firecrackers up their arse and light them or do what Barry, another puppet does and drone weddings. Making them laugh in this bizarro world is not easy.

You wouldn't see the Neocons spending $5-10 billion to place Beppe Grillo as Finance Minister in Italy wouldYa?

Last Uprick Murdoch is no Media Puppet he determines Governments; see Blair, Cameron stick their tongues up his ring piece.

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Weaponized Innocense (not verified) May 13, 2015 11:46 PM

Plus that whole no men u hang with are good as the terrorist preferred has been going on with Kiki since I was young and with lover it started at a later date.
I say terrorist but usually assholes or child molesters etc.... Bitches... It's the entire double standards thing and jealousy all mixed together.

flapdoodle's picture

I call the attention to fellow ZHers - the above is a perfect example of a Lack AI troll. The algorithm is actually pretty simple - use buzzwords and generate random sentences lacking meaning.

On the surface, these posts even looks a little like "tony wilson" a type response, but nowhere near as witty - and are totally content-free.

Weaponized Innocense's picture
Weaponized Innocense (not verified) May 13, 2015 11:42 PM

Oh yea and at one point China began to realize that the US gov under Kiki and lover pâténted was doing this steal my intellectual property and China jumped in to start doing it with the U.S. Government... And at one time I was taking pics on one of my google satellite vacations taking cool pics of islands and stuff and that started the entire rush to steal islands.
U know after Goldman had done the entire gold thing earlier and all kinds of stuff how they steal stuff and give it to warlords..... But the entire warlord thing came later when I had mentioned because one of their family members had committed suicide again that I should have married this guy from the Middle East I had dated instead of my x husband ... And Hillary ran over there and out radical Isis peeps in control of the Middle East and also as competition to one of my incomes.

Any way it gets sort of complicated all the shit that has gone down.

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Weaponized Innocense (not verified) May 13, 2015 11:36 PM

Yea we went to war with china a while back. It was when this administration was going all out anti capitalism and consumers choice in America .... And we had been playing this game where I pick a portfolio and they blow it up. Well I went all in on China and right away america pulled up the warships on China.

Then I had run to RT just to see how many msm would follow me there. Which Larry king did... And I was there at rt bitching about the right to privacy. Then suddenly Edward snowden broke and he ran to Russia. Then America started it up with Russia. And then Ukraine needed a decent loan which they weren't going to get and Russia stepped in and then all went to hell.
Not sure what went down though during Olympics to rile up Russia.... But Russia said it was in Ukraine that they had Russian speaking peeps who wanted to speak Russian and peeps in eukrain were saying no speaking of Russian ....no america went to supporting nazis

WTFUD's picture

The US Government is a bought and paid for WHORE to the Cabal.

What damage do these treasonous whore's have to do before ' The American Revolution ' takes place?

The country must be at least 70% on it's way to being a militarised police state and you might be thankful ONE day that the Border was not closed as that's where the ' armed militias ' will receive their weapons.

Crazy? No i see tunnels like in Palestine and Lebanon only from Mexico to US.

Now that really would be a 100% turnaround MindFuck.

OldPhart's picture

We already HAVE tunnels from Mexico to the US, some with mine cars and tracks, we just don't know the complete count of them.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/mexico-drug-tunnel_n_4183476.html

 

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-12/02/mine-cart-drug-tunnel

 

CIA is running the drugs up through them, does anyone think the CIA would start running guns into the US?  wait, it IS the CIA, they'll do anything for money.

WTFUD's picture

Yes OP i was thinking NEW tunnels for the US Citizens armed militias as i believe bullets and other equipment will be needed, even if the Puppet Government decide to use drones against you. We know they've been stockpiling lead ( even though some of that inventory is for their private mercenary groups in Syria, Ukraine etc ).

In fact why not start mining areas / routes for the Federal up and coming Initiatives in Texas. This would show intent.

bluez's picture

The Saw Mill River Parkway Commuters from Wall Street to Greenwich are crazy drunk on power, booze and sex. They get together in a lunatic bar on the Saw Mill and do their sociopathic dance every weeknight.
WW-III IS NOT A PROBLEM OR CONCERN TO THEM.
Power booze and sex is their only passion.
They will kill us all. Too bad for us.
They had their moment.

Omen IV's picture

I drive the Saw Mill every day from Chappaqua to Wall Street and I do not drink while  driving - but I do admit having sex while driving

bluez's picture

Hillary Rodham Clinton MUST SMILE forever more!
See, since she got that Godawful overdose of facial Botox, she had to have a PERMANENT smile. It all went terribly south in a very bad way. So she needed to have a permanent (Wall-Mart style) smile surgically induced. See if she can ever stop smiling stupidly from now on. Putin will die laughing if this ever goes live.

bluez's picture

 

Hillary has so much Botox in her face it would kill a rhinoceros. Her brain is a scrambled mushroom omelet on dirty drugs.

americanreality's picture

Unhealthy clinton obsession.  True colors.  Same old idiots. With the amount of hate shown for her EVERYWHERE in the media I am starting to think maybe she isn't so bad.