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"We The People" Need To Circle The Wagons: The Government Is On The Warpath
Submitted by John Whitehead via The Rutherford Institute,
“The government is merely a servant?merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a patriot and who isn’t. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them.” ? Mark Twain
How many Americans have actually bothered to read the Constitution, let alone the first ten amendments to the Constitution, the Bill of Rights (a quick read at 462 words)?
Take a few minutes and read those words for yourself—rather than having some court or politician translate them for you—and you will be under no illusion about where to draw the line when it comes to speaking your mind, criticizing your government, defending what is yours, doing whatever you want on your own property, and keeping the government’s nose out of your private affairs.
In an age of overcriminalization, where the average citizen unknowingly commits three crimes a day, and even the most mundane activities such as fishing and gardening are regulated, government officials are constantly telling Americans what not to do. Yet it was not always this way. It used to be “we the people” telling the government what it could and could not do. Indeed, the three words used most frequently throughout the Bill of Rights in regards to the government are “no,” “not” and “nor.”
Compare the following list of “don’ts” the government is prohibited from doing with the growing list of abuses to which “we the people” are subjected on a daily basis, and you will find that we have reached a state of crisis wherein the government is routinely breaking the law and violating its contractual obligations.
For instance, the government is NOT allowed to restrict free speech, press, assembly or the citizenry’s ability to protest and correct government wrongdoing. Nevertheless, the government continues to prosecute whistleblowers, persecute journalists, cage protesters, criminalize expressive activities, crack down on large gatherings of citizens mobilizing to voice their discontent with government policies, and insulate itself and its agents from any charges of wrongdoing (or what the courts refer to as “qualified immunity”).
The government may NOT infringe on a citizen’s right to defend himself. Nevertheless, in many states, it’s against the law to carry a concealed weapon (gun, knife or even pepper spray), and the average citizen is permitted little self-defense against militarized police officers who shoot first and ask questions later.
The government may NOT enter or occupy a citizen’s house without his consent (the quartering of soldiers). Nevertheless, government soldiers (i.e., militarized police) carry out more than 80,000 no-knock raids on private homes every year, while maiming children, killing dogs and shooting citizens.
The government may NOT carry out unreasonable searches and seizures on the citizenry or their possessions. NOR can government officials issue warrants without some evidence of wrongdoing (probable cause). Unfortunately, what is unreasonable to the average American is completely reasonable to a government agent, for whom the ends justify the means. In such a climate, we have no protection against roadside strip searches, blood draws, DNA collection, SWAT team raids, surveillance or any other privacy-stripping indignity to which the government chooses to subject us.
The government is NOT to deprive anyone of life, liberty or property without due process. Nevertheless, the government continues to incarcerate tens of thousands of Americans whose greatest crime is being poor and brown-skinned. The same goes for those who are put to death, some erroneously, by a system weighted in favor of class and wealth.
The government may NOT take private property for public use without just compensation. Nevertheless, under the guise of the “greater public interest,” the government often hides behind eminent domain laws in order to allow megacorporations to tear down homes occupied by less prosperous citizens in order to build high-priced resorts and shopping malls.
Government agents may NOT force a citizen to testify against himself. Yet what is the government’s extensive surveillance network that spies on all of our communications but a thinly veiled attempt at using our own words against us?
The government is NOT allowed to impose excessive fines on the citizenry or inflict cruel and unusual punishments upon them. Nevertheless Americans are subjected to egregious fines and outrageous punishments for minor traffic violations, student tardiness and absence from school, and generally having the misfortune of being warm bodies capable of filling privatized, profit-driven jails.
The government is NOT permitted to claim any powers that are not expressly granted to them by the Constitution. This prohibition has become downright laughable as the government continues to claim for itself every authority that serves to swell its coffers, cement its dominion, and expand its reach.
Despite what some special interest groups have suggested to the contrary, the problems we’re experiencing today did not arise because the Constitution has outlived its usefulness or become irrelevant, nor will they be solved by a convention of states or a ratification of the Constitution.
No, as I document in my new book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, the problem goes far deeper. It can be traced back to the point at which “we the people” were overthrown as the center of the government. As a result, our supremacy has been undone, our authority undermined, and our experiment in democratic self-governance left in ruins. No longer are we the rulers of this land. We have long since been deposed and dethroned, replaced by corporate figureheads with no regard for our sovereignty, no thought for our happiness, and no respect for our rights.
In other words, without our say-so and lacking any mandate, the point of view of the Constitution has been shifted from “we the people” to “we the government.” Our taxpayer-funded employees—our appointed servants—have stopped looking upon us as their superiors and started viewing as their inferiors. Unfortunately, we’ve gotten so used to being dictated to by government agents, bureaucrats and militarized police alike that we’ve forgotten that WE are supposed to be the ones calling the shots and determining what is just, reasonable and necessary.
Then again, we’re not the only ones guilty of forgetting that the government was established to serve us as well as obey us. Every branch of government, from the Executive to the Judicial and Legislative, seems to be suffering this same form of amnesia. Certainly, when government programs are interpreted from the government’s point of view (i.e., the courts and legislatures), there is little the government CANNOT do in its quest for power and control.
We’ve been so brainwashed and indoctrinated into believing that the government is actually looking out for our best interests, when in fact the only compelling interesting driving government programs is maintain power and control by taking away our money and control. This vital truth, that the government exists for our benefit and operates at our behest, seems to have been lost in translation over two centuries dominated by government expansion, endless wars and centralized federal power.
Have you ever wondered why the Constitution begins with those three words “we the people”? It was intended to be a powerful reminder that everything flows from the citizenry. We the people are the center of the government and the source of its power. That “we” is crucial because it reminds us that there is power and safety in numbers, provided we stand united. We can accomplish nothing alone.
This is the underlying lesson of the Constitution, which outlines the duties and responsibilities of government. It was a mutual agreement formed by early Americans in order to ensure that when problems arose, they could address them together.
It’s like the wagon trains of the Old West, comprised of individual groups of pioneers. They rarely ventured out alone but instead traveled as convoys. And when faced with a threat, these early Americans formed their wagons into a tight circle in order to defend against invaders. In doing so, they presented a unified front and provided protection against an outside attack. In much the same way, the Constitution was intended to work as an institutionalized version of the wagon circle, serving as a communal shield against those who would harm us.
Unfortunately, we have been ousted from that protected circle, left to fend for ourselves in the wilderness that is the American frontier today. Those who did the ousting—the courts, the politicians, and the corporations—have since replaced us with yes-men, shills who dance to the tune of an elite ruling class. In doing so, they have set themselves as the central source of power and the arbiters of what is just and reasonable.
Once again we’re forced to navigate hostile terrain, unsure of how to protect ourselves and our loved ones from militarized police, weaponized drones, fusion centers, Stingray devices, SWAT team raids, the ongoing military drills on American soil, the government stockpiling of ammunition, the erection of mass detention centers across the country, and all other manner of abuses.
Read the smoke signals, and the warning is clear: It’s time to circle the wagons, folks. The government is on the warpath, and if we are to have any hope of surviving whatever is coming at us, we’ll need to keep our wits about us and present a unified front. Most of all, we need to restore “we the people” to our rightful place at the center of government. How we do that depends largely on each community’s willingness to get past their partisan politics and blind allegiance to uniformed government officials and find common ground.
To put it a little more bluntly, stop thinking like mindless government robots and start acting like a powerhouse of citizens vested with the power to say “enough is enough.” We have the numbers to stand our ground. Now we just need the will
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Another fucking pep talk suggesting nothing.
In the words of Ben Franklin: Either we hang together, or surely we will hang alone.
The constitution is just more of a guideline, like the pirates code. It resembles a meaningful document intended to maintain a civil and free society, when in reality its just a piece of paper used to justify punishing us. As a "living document" it has been freed to become a weapon of choice to oppress whoever might resist "progress"
All the people with monkey troop memories are incapable of letting the others be free.
Nice to be made a slave by a tiny mass of neurons.
The dumb fear you, their fellow citizen.
The dumb have been told this, and they obey.
The dumb are cowards.
And cowards will gladly submit to a digital cavity check if it means that others must do the same.
The dumb celebrate the chains that they are enslaved in and even if they don't then they certainly celebrate yours.
China, Russia, and other Eastern nations would like to have a chat with the elite, willing or not....
The only question is, can someone talk some sense into these batshit crazy elite?
Something tells me they don't give a damn...
I guess that's the price you pay for greed & indifference...
When our guests arrive I will happily draw them a map and provide pictures of the Commander in Queef to help identify.
The elites are perma-wired into a "talk to the hand 'cause the face ain't listening" mode.
The Constitution is your rights, inalienable rights. Freedom of speech, the right to protect yourself (especially from rogue governments), privacy, due process, and states rights to reject an out of control, tyrannical Federal Government. "Inalienable" means "natural" and "God given". No government, gang, or individual can take these rights from you, unless you willingly surrender them. Death to the tyrants!
Who has junked us? Show yourself! And prepare ye to be pummeled into oblivion. For he who stands in the way of liberty, he who robs the righteous of their inheritance shall be punished.
LOL. Your beloved Constitution stands in the way of liberty and robs you of your inheritance. Not questioning your patriotism. Simply questioning your allegiance to your enemy. :)
edit: forgot to admit to junking your love for your oppressor
Fuck, one of the greatest of patriots, Patrick Henry, opposed ratification. Too bad the French Revolution scared the shit out of the old man and he switched sides. Fuck the Federalists and their National Bank and their tax on distilled spirits and their Alien and Sedition Act and on and on.
Bill Of Rights. Obviously, sixteenth amendment is where we took a wrong turn. LOL, are you done yet? Perhaps they should have stopped at the Second Amendment. Nothing is easier than second guessing. What is your answer? Anarchy?
edit: The Constitution is merely a piece of paper, and therefore stands in the way of nothing. :)
I'm not an anarchist. My answer would be an overhaul of the Constitution, placing limitations on every enumeration.
Take away the Federal power to tax.
Allow for State nullification of federal laws, as Jefferson tried with the Kentucky Resolution, which was widely rejected by the traitorous State legislatures.
Judicial review needs work, but I haven't given any thought to a solution to that problem.
I think one of the key changes would be return as much power to the States so accountability is closer to home. As one ZHer replied to one of my similar comments, "We won't have to haul our guillotines as far."
We would need to take what we've learned from the abuses and corruption allowed by the Constitution and draft something that prevents abuse. I'm not sure how to do that. All I know for sure is our system is fucked and you can trace all of the bad shit happening from the corrupt politicians and judges right back to the Constitution.
That jackass Congressman or Senator who said, paraphrasing, "we can justify anything with the commerce clause" was not lying. I forget who said it. Some townhall meeting. It's on youtube.
Alright then. We are in agreement.
I considered myself a "constitutionalist", until I read the Anti-Federalist Papers. Truly enlightening. They saw some of this shit coming, but probably couldn't imagine it getting this bad. They probably figured we would have had another revolution by now.
The solution to pollution is, easy. Kick the 'nice' jewish folks out. That message would straighten everyone out.
Get rid of the American High School and get rid of Corporate Media
I'm an anarchist at heart, but I do not believe that such a system will work. There are several things that I would change with the Constitution if I had the ability to do so:
The 2nd amend would read more like this:
I would also add something along these lines:
Seriously, when Congressional Research Services (Yes, alphabet soup, CRS,) says "We can't count the number of federal crimes on the books because it's too fucking complex, so we stopped at 10,000," we have a problem. And when I say all laws, I mean all laws. Legislators should have to pick between murder and some bullshit crony law that benefits their campaign financiers.
If we're going to have a federal government, I would pretty much eliminate its ability to tax people or businesses across the board. I would put any tax collection authority in the hands of state and local governments with restrictions, and I would require that that be the only place that the federal government could draw funds from, with hard limits.
I would also severely restrict and revamp the commerce clause. I could come up with more, but it's late, and I've poured a glass of whiskey.
What's this "lawful purpose" and "lawful hunting" stuff Vaq? Who decides whether it's lawful? Not us, I'd hazard a guess.
Point of the second amendment is quite clear. The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Period. Could it be any plainer? Fuck off with you "lawful purposes" crap.
Because you give them an inch and they'll take a mile. I would put that in there because what you think is clear is not clear to those who want to get rid of arms. Not guns, but arms. I'm looking at the legal history of the 2nd Amendment, not how people think it ought to be interpreted, but how it has been.
The downvote was just to mark you for special consideration by the NSA.
Freedom of speech, right of self-protection, and due process are the only Constitutional protections on your list. The Constitution has nothing to do with unalienable rights.
The Constitution was forced on the people by fear-mongering Federalist tyrants. State legislators betrayed their constituents when they ratified it. That is my opinion, and sticking to it.
Read the Federalist and, more importantly, Anti-Federalist Papers. The so-called Constitutional Convention was supposed to be a meeting to modify the Articles of Confederation. It was the Philadelphia Convention, until the founders decided to scrap the Articles and start from scratch. The beginning of the end. Federal power to tax with no limitation and judicial review, both granted by the Constitution, doomed this nation from birth.
If government could be trusted to obey the enumeratuons, a Bill of Rights would not be necessary. A Bill of Rights was demanded because everyone knew the new Federal government would not follow the rulz.
People claim this or that is unconstitutional, but per the Constitution, it doesn't matter what anyone but the Federal courts and the SCOTUS think. And the courts have a bad habit of siding with the other branches, facilitating the royal fucking of the people.
The sooner people stop praising the Constitution and realize it is the source of our problems, the sooner we can get on track to freedom. Same goes for State constitutions.
The Constipation is a blueprint for tyranny by Federal Mafia.
The US, where freedom from liberty still exists.
-Cynicles
The U.S.-backed freedom junta in Ukraine is the test version of U.S. 2.0. Everything going on in that ziopathic neocon wet-dream will happen right here - guaranteed. It's like seeing into our own future - for free!
254 deputies of the Rada just voted for martial law ('wartime powers') in Ukraine. Big news all over the U.S. MSM today, right? No? Well, here's some highlights that MSM is censoring by omission for your own protection:
But the Rada has not treated their own citizens like TOTAL garbage. Look at the big concession the Ukraine feds made for the plebes:
How fucking generous! Oh, wait... they CAN confiscate private property for state needs (that's in Obama's U.S. martial law, too). So I guess they can confiscate your guns and ammo in Ukraine for state needs even if gun ownership is legal. Think of it as a liberty loophole. And soon enough right here in freedom and liberty central: the U.S.A.
[Edit: The vote was for this new version of martial law IF the president were to declare it. The law itself does not impose martial law, it only defines the extent of its mandate. It is widely believed that it is being revised in order for it to be declared in the near future. The most troubling provision not mentioned above is the forced internment of Russian citizens living in Ukraine (millions, including dual-passport holders). Remember what happened the last time Svaboda... er, the Nazis - did that?]
Perhaps they understand the concept of militia? /s
No better soldier than the ones who fight your war for free. No care and feeding, no VA
"care."
When the US declares martial law you better believe they will come for your food stores, your ammo, your toilet paper, your camping supplies, etc. Stalin took all their food from the Kulaks and then he starved them. I don't expect better from our present government. We all know how this goes down
It's 470 AD in Rome. It's WAY past time to think about fixing the beast.
Start building something better.
When you have a giant, malignant, parasite viciously sucking the life out of you it must be removed at all costs.
Unfortunately what they will replace it with will be far worse...
An electronic parisite they will control utterly worldwide....
You can bend over now and kiss your money, banks, and markets goodbye...
Only if the masses allow it, which I think might be a difficult sell.
its for the cheeeeldrenz
When removing it will kill the host then, in either way, the host will die.
We are well past that at this point in time.
So we serve to write the requiem of the failed American experiment.
Really. Just what did you expect from herd animals whom are DNA hardwired to follow the alpha?
Just having the balls to facebook the atrocities the .gov gets away with is a stand. I do it at certain times and wonder why I'm not dead yet, or IRS'd. YOU can do it too if you have the balls. Most people have friends that are gun-ho military, anti abortion, go Jesus & love America which is always right morons. Those are the ones I piss off and have a good time doing it.
Funny, some are still friends.
Just having the balls to facebook...
Facebook!? WTF! They ARE the vampires!
Facebook happily refers your posts to the FBI, along with your registered email, network address and, if they take the time, will even do a whois and send along your address. That what the FBIGUY showed me in the folder when he showed up on my porch.
No shit they refer it. Tell me something I don't know.
Thats the point. If enough do it it becomes ubiquitous and truth spreads out.
In the words of Ben Franklin: Either we hang together, or surely we will hang alone.
Ben was wrong. Distributed defence is far better than centralized.
British nobles have always been fabulous liars....
How do you think they took control over America without even America knowing it?
Bank on bitches...
It is not the collectivization of society that empowers it.
It is shared values and goals. This the area of importance that is so severely damaged, and deliberately so by those who seek to dominate us.
Worked for Afghanistan.
I'd like to see people leaning out their city windows and shouting: "I'm mad as hell, and I won't take it any more!"
When you have so many voices belonging to disjointed, conflicting groups, you have chaos pure and simple. Ours has become a "melting pot" with the lid welded on. Multiculturalism has been used to weaken our pot to the point of having the bottom melt out of it. But there is GREAT news....ALL of this was known in advance. Such that amazingly accurate warnings regarding the correct course of action to take and what is to come have been shared. See the following:
Net Search - "Mt. Everest Shrinks! Hawaii Rumbles!"
Net Search - "Ancient High Performance Electric Motors Discovered that are still in Production"
Good Journeys
People say "non compliance, don't participate in the system" but for every 1 person that tries, their are 10 sheep that follow the shepherd.
We get what we deserve at this point for lack of action.
Charles Murray just suggested, in book length, to take non action in the form of not complying. In any case, at some point, you can't. Kurt Schlichter is full of ideas how to degrade the leviathan as well. There may be some economically optimal level of regulations just as the Laffer curve shows an economically optimal level of taxation. We are well past both, coasting on the reserve currency status of the dollar and the Fed to extend and pretend one quarter at a time. But one way or another a great recknoning is in store. That will be the time to gut the leviathan.
The challenge is to change the system or even defeat our oppressors at minimal cost to ourselves. This is the intelligence of their plan as they always provide enough reward for compliance to prevent outright rebellion. Unfortunately, by the time we realize our true costs it will be too late for most. Its what makes corruption work so well.
The cost will be great, don't deceive yourself or allow yourself false hope. It'll probably be almost too much to be borne; everything we've ever known or loved will be swept away and most of us won't live through it.
It is the fact that we so resist paying the cost of liberty that we lose it. If it ain't a good deal, the perceived "something for nothing", then we ain't buying it.
They have us by the nuts for this very reason. How else could so many voluntarily become dependents of the state?
Revolutions are always effected by a small minority. The American Revolution basically involved only a few thousand primary actors.
I am Chumbawamba.
The American Revolution basically involved only a few thousand primary actors.
That is false.
No it isn't.
Normally I disagree with everything Chumba says, but in this case they're spot on. Very few people were actively involved in anything but the fighting, and even then it was less than a tenth of the population doing anything at all.
Heck, it was only about 35% of the population that agreed with the revolution in the first place.
People are far more interested in their short term prospects than anything we would perceive as "future". Why else would so many submit to a lifetime of debt? People are blind to the future. Even the concept of "investing" has morphed into day traders and algorithms trying to produce wealth instantaneously. What they allow us to see creates a sense that our future is dead, that there is no alternative, which enables us to retreat into further acts of self destruction. This what drives moral decline, and this moral decline is what is ultimately creating our economic decline.
Poor choices
Who is this article referring to? "WE" aren't "THE PEOPLE."
Another article suggesting insanity: that is, trying the same thing OVER AND OVER AGAIN and expecting a different result.
The CONstitution is not for us, or useful to us, any more than the Magna Carta is useful.
The sooner The Public wakes up to the fact that they have been fleeced, hornswoggled, and hoodwinked, the better. Then they can actually start doing useful things to fix things.
Until then, keep playing the best game of checkers you can while your opponent beats you at Monopoly.
+1 for bringing up the Magna Carta. I told everyone that's where the trouble started, but did they listen? Nooooooo.
Thank God we're returning again to more legitimate forms of government like Kings, Emperors and Dictators (anything where one guy and his cronies make the rules as they see fit). This whole liberty, democracy, rule of law and representation of the people thing got WAY out of hand the last handfull of centuries. In the 20th Century alone they damned near lost control to a new thing called the "middle class" that could make up their own minds what they wanted to do and had the financial resources to follow through on those decisions. If you're an elite, that's what's called an unmitigated disaster. One they have learned from and will never allow to happen again.
The difference with the US Constitution is that it's the only one that begins with the premise that our rights come from God. Therefore Governments only role is to secure our God given rights of life and liberty, nothing else. They don't have the right to micro-manage our Society and economy like our Marxist central planners are doing now. Our leaders exist only by the power we afforded them, and we the right to take back that power when it's being abused and give to someone else that will follow the rule of law..
But unless you specifically disclaim being a CITIZEN (SUBJECT), you are right back to being at the mercy of your Lords of the Land, and the CONstitution is irrelevant (at least the entire document up to the 14th Amendment).
I'm not sure if it's willful ignorance, or people are just conditioned by all the years of Public Fool System indoctrination, but the CONstitution does not apply to 99.99% of The Public.
It really would be nice to hear a logical rebuttal that isn't "because I believe in the CONstitution, so there!"
Again. Load your fulltext of the CONstitution. Please tell me where the very first mention of the Title "Citizen" shows up. THAT is the point the document starts applying to you.
Its called exclusivity: if you claim the title of Citizen (with all the expectations and obligations therewith), then you claim that title EXCLUSIVELY, you cannot be one of "The People" AND a CITIZEN at the same time. It matters not that you "think" the BOR applies to you. It's about what you can prove.
You waived your claim to Natural Rights by claiming an inferior title. The Court system will look on you as a child that is mentally incompetent. For cripes sake, they will threaten you with contempt if you try to argue it!
Realizing this is fundamental to effecting a rational and LASTING fix to the problem. You cannot win a game without grasping the rules of that game. And no matter how skillfully you play the game YOU THINK it is, you will lose because it is a DIFFERENT GAME.
It served the OwnerLords purposes to allow us to think we have been in control these past 200 years. But now the shearing of the sheep is in progress, and they don't need to bother with the charade any more.
There is no mention of God in the Constitution. I think you are confusing it with the Declaration of Independence.
I exercise my body regularly to keep my muscles from atrophy.
The Bill of Rights is like a muscle, they must be exercised regularly or they atrophy, capisce!
DaddyO
Here is what you do about it. http://www.arneighbors.org/ Try it where you are. Revert to self-government where you live. Its too late to save the FEDS, but its not to late for sanity in some state and local governments. And when FEDGOV does die choking on its own corrupt vomit, this is how you make sure it doesn't happen again..... http://www.amazon.com/Localism-Philosophy-Government-Mark-Moore/dp/06922...
Excellent pep talk. Every well written pep talk draws me closer to the line that I know is there but I don't really want to face, but know that if I am to die with any semblance of self respect and honor that I must face. Not making a snap judgement but I don't think I want you on my team. When it is 4 to 1 in hockey and late in the second period, or 28 to 14 in football in the fourth quarter, or 5 to 1 in baseball in the ninth inning you are the kind of teammate who has already rolled it up and ready for the poontang that you will likely never get or if you do get they are a dead fish wannabe. Stay in your lazy boy and smoke your pot and kiss my ass while your at it. I still believe in miracles(as long as their is belief and determination behind it).
The simplest solution is to restore the House apportionment.
Original representation was to be 1:30000-which would give us several thousand congresscritters today. Meeting electronically from their home districts. Nobody can buy several thousand seats surreptitiously
All this crap started in the mid-1890's when somehow apportionment was bypassed when the House agreed to enlarge their districts rather than physically expand beyond the 435 seats.
You get enough representation back in Fed.gov and all the right things will happen
Circle around the Cheetos is more like it.........
This whole thing is going down like a cheap whore. Nothing anyone is gonna do about it. Buckle up Skippy!
The constitution is a joke. You need nukes stupid.
Well Duh you freaking sheeple
I agree yet another article that does a great job of detailing all that is wrong with our govt today. But it offers no practical solutions other than to read the constitution, the bill of rights, and "circle the wagon"...fuck at least tell us what the modern day equivalent of circling the wagon is.
Practical solutions?
That is exactly what our leaders are trying to create.
The problem is the nature of humans and the answer is to dehumanize us, to domesticate us, which requires manipulation, force and eventually elimination as the final solution.
The reason why documents and benevolence and nonviolence and pacifism fail, every damned time, is because of the nature of people. Its not religion, its not ideology. Its the nature of humans to control and dominate our environment to varying levels. Our intelligence, while often times found lacking is superior in problem solving, in finding ways around rules and power. For a coherent society, power structures cannot coexist. One must always dominate. Humans are eternally at war with each other and themselves.
It seems more like our leaders are trying to create a Final Solution.
When you take it to its limits, many hardcore progressive see AI as the solution. A centralized brain, an incorruptible brain. Everything is about efficiency, about taking the "human" factor out of everything. They rule from emotion yet seek to eliminate it from choice. They seek "rational" solutions but reject rational people as being uncaring. Ultimately their ideology is so purely flawed that its only rational solution is death for all of us, leaving the planet inhabited by robots who's only mandate is to save the planet. Progressives, for all of their declarations of love for people, really don't like people very much. They only like what they think we could become, which really isn't human anymore.
What do you do? How do you circle the wagons? If you are like most people I know you can't. Why because it starts with family. Most people I know truly dread family get togethers. If you are not close with your family I doubt you have that many close friends. You might have enough to count on one hand. I hope you do. Start there. If you don't have that you are screwed. Walking towards ridicule and punishment and possibly imprisonment or death alone is a rare feat. If you don't have the small the large will never happen. That is why it better happen sooner rather than later or they for sure win. I think at this point it's "do you believe in miracles"?
We've become a nation of castrated, wussified sheeple. If we don't begin to fight for our Constitutional rights, and regain our rule of law and morality, we'll lose this country. It's that simple.
People who understand history and human nature, know that a People -- any people -- who have an easy life for too long, become soft and woosified.
Add the fact that most are not too swift or informed, it's not too hard to steer them like a herd.
There is no spoon, Neo.
What are they training for again?
Operation Jade Helm 15 Arizona 04/17; Assault Support Tactics in Urban Area
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTIKKxRi4ww
WTF? Food and water, food and water...
I've watched the rot set in over my lifetime. No entity has been more corrosive that the Zionist take over of foreign policy and the Bankers take over of economic policy. Their AIPAC and their Neocons have begun to us the NSA and CIA as Israelis personal gang of thugs to both rule us and threaten us.
Local governments have done their part. Once local governments became the primary employers on local scales, the army of public employees began to see themselves as masters and the tax payers as slaves. They seek always to create more jobs for family and cronies, thus more cops. more inspectors, more secretaries at city hall. You know what I mean.
The government law makers seek to make everything against the law, or requiring a government permit. So yes, we all break the law everyday, it's impossible to live and not break some law.
Corporate powers have taken over governments, so now both public and private powers seek to fuck us over. Against all this we have the media promoting all the corporate and government deeds. No hope, no change, voting is a fucking waste.
You still haven't gone high enough up the pyramid.
You mention corporations, bankers, government and media. You also mention zionists but non-zionists are also part of the core set of individuals that are responsible.
Billionaires and Trillionaires sit at the top of the pyramid. Many are of the Zionist persuasion, many are not.
Through their hoarded wealth, they control the global financial systems, governments (and hence military), corporations, resources, legal systems, education, entertain and media.
They are insulated from all laws, and so they practice bribery, extortion, murder, theft and every other crime with absolute impunity.
They have set up the UN, Bilberbergers, CFR, Tri-Lateral Commision, Club of Rome, BIS, FED, etc, in order to secretly plan and carry out their objectives.
The financial system is the Kingmaker, and these are the Neo-feudal Kings:
The BILLIONAIRES and TRILLIONAIRES.
The buck stops with these individuals- they are the Apex of the Pyramid.
The takeover of America has been planned and organized by powerful and wealthy people since the time of the revelotion. The Rockafeller clan is one of the primary movers in this conspiracy according to Aaron Russo who had a conscience and exposed some of their plans. Their gatekeeps are cunningly placed, they control the 85% of the media, the Fed is their economic hub, they lie, murder, cheat and steal under the cloak of a relgion that they adopted. Geneticly they themselves are not Semetic but mongul, cossack descent, making their claim to Isreal bogus. The Kazar tribe was known as a warlike pagan tribe, and that tradition continues with the Neocons today. They are haunted, probably by a deep seated fear of some hand of retribution grabbing them from behind for all the explotive deceptions that they get away with, 9/11 for example, leading them to believe in their 'superiority' but persued by their own guilt. Bibi is a good example of that type of personality, and we should be grateful that war with Iran has not broken out already. The only thing that I can think to do is pray that these tyrants change their behavior, and for Divine intervention. It is tempting to consider violent change, but violence is a very slippery slope.
And now we find out that Rubio has a Zionist handler, and Ted Cruz and Rand Paul are now Controlled Opposition with their Friends of Israel positions and ads.
Rand must've had one helluva visit to the Wailing Wall and Tel Aviv. I'm surprised that he was so easy and quick to flip. /What happened, did he get to meet the DNA clone of the Fallen space alien, called Lucifer?/ sarc
Thank you sir. May I have another?
Any ideas that could work? Ones that would actually address the real issues would be nice.
First- Very few understand what & who the primary problem is.
Second- Very few understand that to effect the kind of change necessary, termination of the problem individuals with extreme prejudice is necessary.
Third- Very few agree on who will/should carry out execution of the guilty parties.
WWII Japanese Admiral Yamamoto is said to have said "We will have to march into Washington and dictate terms"
That is what will be necessary today. Washington only listens to power.
Way past marching on Washington!
That's just another feel good gesture that would accomplish nothing.
Indeed. Such actions would only empower the criminal gang occupying Washington. The only winning move is not to play.
I'm thinking an armed march
We the people--at that time were white males who owned land. Unfortunately, it's never been about everybody.
praise the lord someone had enough sense to stand up and do something right. I guess they could have just resorted to looting and pillaging, but what do you expect from a few white guys.
While you are getting your ass kicked by the totalitarian State they will laugh in your face and tell you your constitutional rights are nothing more than a piece of paper under some glass in Washington D.C.
America was murdered generations ago
You have been living in the rotting carcass.
Most folks don't give a damn, but for those who do, here's three simple steps to follow every primary election until the majority of sociopaths are out of office; not all, but the majority.
1) Vote in every primary election.
2) Never vote for an incumbent.
3) Vote for your choice of the least financed congressperson.
It took us a long time for the sociopaths to take over; it'll take some time to get them out. If you want violence, then you'll only jump from the frying pan into the fire. Just like the Russians with Lenin.
Diebold disagrees.
As Howard Zinn has so aptly pointed out, "If voting worked they'd respond to it the way they do to 7 protestors on a street corner."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9mZIUS3Aqw
My translation: They fear truth, and truth in action even more. They do not fear a theatrical action like voting where they control the inputs and the outputs.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
If insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, "voting" should be considered madness.
yah, damn those first colonists who resorted to violence against the British. if only you had been there to instruct them about voting. The British would have been voted out and would have left voluntarily, peacefully.
GRDguy, your solution is similar to the belief that you can put a fire out by dousing it with gasoline. I appreciate your sincerity, as well as your laudable desire to avoid giving the Owners what they fervently wish for (Violence), and...
Continuing to CONSENT is the worst possible thing you can do. Electors elect. Voters vote. You are not an elector. None of us are.
You don't elect ANYONE by VOTING.
Sending in your voter registration IS your vote.
It's binary. YES/NO.
If you are still voting YES, you have NO right to whine or complain.
Consent is powerful. The whole current criminal enterprise runs on the power of CONSENT. You are far more likely to convince a large percentage of the populace to stop consenting, than you are to get them to take up arms.
Not to mention that if you are still consenting (on record, no less, through your words, records, and actions/inactions), and yet take up arms, you are legally in the wrong.
Violence should be the absolute LAST resort, after exhausting all other avenues. No rational human wishes for violence. Recognizing that you are still funding/facilitating your oppressors/predators, REMOVE that sustenance. STOP the infighting amongst ourselves, stop playing the game of political tribes/sports teams. They are nothing but bullshit.
Plus, even if you DID in fact select politicians...your talk of choosing new ones is like talking about shopping for a replacement anal polyp after removing your old one.
The course has already been articulated and followed. It is once again put before us:
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
I withdraw my consent. And I never consented to Zion.
See you on the battlefield or in the bowels of one of Zion's basements.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
This, the Declaration of Independence, is what people should be reading and embracing. Not the Constitution.
the progressives depend upon the crowd followers. Those who adopt the talking points as their own thoughts and opinions because their biggest fear is non acceptance in the group. It is natural to see this type mobilized and manipulated so easily in Missouri and Baltimore, quickly assembled for Occupy. They are drawn to groups like moths to a flame. The progressive organizers are driven by their insatiable need for control, it is a sickness a neurosis that consumes them with no end. Like Soros, Buffett, Clinton, they exist to seek control over others...they never retire....they just die. These are the narcissists, psychopaths and sociopaths....if they weren't so dangerous they would be comically pathetic in their one dimensional obsession. On the other side you have the individualists. They shun crowd think and want to be left alone. Their mantra is "mind your own business
and I'll do the same", or "Live and Let Live" . This philosophy does not lend itself to community organizing or joining the mob because it is exciting. When individuals reluctantly work in a group they are independent realists interested in results. The Tea Party is like this. They initially had rallies but soon determined individually at this point voting made more sense then marching. The real Tea Party is a state of mind, a matter of shared values, as an organization it only exists in the minds of politicians and pundits. It formed like a tornado, touched down briefly then evaporated from view , but it still exists in the mindset of individuals. The nature of the opposition to the progressives is that if they need to "touch down " again because the system is broken they will stand their ground and I am not sure the crowd groupies will.
It is my belief that when the Federal personal income tax was instituted, the American citizen lost much of their personal soveriegnty. With our representative form of government, the personal income tax ensured that our tax dollar had no voice. Short of abolishing the income tax and apportioning federal taxes to the individual states, the only thing that I can think of that would provide a voice to the now disenfranchised taxpayer would be to institute a citizen referendum to provide the means to overide the legislation passed by our bought and paid for "representatives". I kind of feel like a colonist under King George.
"How many Americans have actually bothered to read the Constitution, let alone the first ten amendments to the Constitution, the Bill of Rights (a quick read at 462 words)?"
Most Americans, blinded by the incessant focus on the first 5 of the Bill of Rights, miss that those 5 are not the most important amendments to the Constitution. That even without the first 5, the government endowed, and restrained, by the Constitution, is still hamstrung. That is because of the 9th. and 10th. amendments; The most important amendments of the Bill of Rights.
The 9th.:
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
The 10th.:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The two form the backbone of the Bill or Rights, and of the Constitution.
There is a reason that power keeps the people focused on the 2nd, etc., as they don't want people enforcing the 9th. and 10th. on them.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
"Compare the following list of “don’ts” the government is prohibited from doing..."
Tell them that! Not us, We already know!
"They" already know too.
"Telling" them isn't the answer.
It's just semantic impotence.
My law firm of AK, AR, and Glock are on the case.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
Don't let fucking puppets like the Obama's drive a racial wedge between us . We stand together against bastards like them, the Clintons, the Diamonds, Bush the Buffets and the rest of TPTB..
The de facto
government:
Governments were made by the history of warfare.
Governments were built as military organizations.
OF COURSE "The Government Is On The Warpath"
At the present time, there appears to be no reasonable ways to doubt that the vast majority of "We the People" have been reduced to being "Zombie Sheeple," who were being fleeced to exhaustion, while they were being set up to be slaughtered. Those Zombie Sheeple have become the victims of the best scientific brainwashing that money could buy, for generation after generation ... There are no good grounds upon which to base any beliefs that there are any practical ways to materially communicate to enough of those Zombie Sheeple enough of the things that they should think more critically about. Not only are most of those Zombie Sheeple abysmally ignorant, but also they have been conditioned to want to stay that way. (Even worse, there is quite significant and increasing levels of organic brain damage.)
Given those basic social facts, there seems no practical point in publishing the article above, nor to bother to read and comment upon it. While I agreed with the superficial level of the analysis that it presents, I do not think its analysis goes deep enough to provide any better solutions. Moreover, it is not clear that any such deeper analysis would matter to the majority of the Zombie Sheeple. But nevertheless, I will repeat the basic theory of intellectual scientific revolutions, which should be the basis to guide any future sorts of Second American Revolution and/or Second American Civil War.
Everyone has some power to rob. Governments assemble and channel those powers. Those who are best at doing that control the government. Since governments were created in the crucible of conflicts, selected to develop as the survivors through the history of warfare, any genuine progress with respect to enough of "We the People" overcoming the degrees to which they have degenerated into becoming "Zombie Sheeple" should be based upon deeper levels of understanding the power to rob, with the power to kill as the greatest of the powers to rob.
Sovereignty is based on the power to rob. The most obvious manifestation of that is the power to tax, which is legalized robbery. The history of warfare was the history of the applications of the principles and methods of organized crime on larger and larger scales. Therefore, "citizens" are actually members of a military organization, and basically "citizens" are necessarily members of an organized crime gang which they call their "country."
What has happened more and more during the history of the American government was that small groups of the best organized gangs of criminals were able to apply the methods of organized crime to the political processes, in ways which cumulatively resulted in those best organized gangs of criminals being able to covertly capture control over the government. The single most important example of those processes were whereby the public money supply was effectively PRIVATIZED. The American public "money" supply is now a system of government enforced frauds by privately controlled banks.
Of course, I REPEAT, the vast majority of Americans do not understand that, because they do not want to understand that. Therefore, it appears politically impossible to change the ways that the American monetary system has become an absurd state religion. That is especially the case because of the degree to which the core groups of organized crime have been able to control their publicly significant opposition, to the degree that almost the only publicly significant opposition groups could be described as being Black Sheeple, attempting to "lead" the Zombie Sheeple backwards.
In my view, the article above was another typical example of the presentation of reactionary revolutions, which promote the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies, and related impossible ideals, as the basis of their bogus "solutions" to the political problems which were otherwise relatively well analyzed, at least on the superficial level at which those problems were presented. However, there is nothing remotely close to providing the kinds of paradigm shifts which would be necessarily to develop the intellectual scientific revolutions which would be necessary for any Second American Revolution, and/or Second American Civil War, to perhaps end up enabling something better to emerge out of those severe social storms blowing through.
I AGREE it is clear that "the problem goes far deeper. It can be traced back to the point at which “we the people” were overthrown as the center of the government," WHICH WAS PRIMARILY THE PROLONGED POLITICAL PROCESSES BY WHICH THE PUBLIC MONEY SUPPLY ENDED UP BECOMING PRIVATIZED.
Around the privately controlled banks that were able to issue the public "money" supply there grew up the corporations, as legal fictions, which more and more were able to corrupt the government, through means which captured control over the powers of governments, to serve the interests of those corporations. The persistent application of techniques such as bribery, intimidation, and assassination of some of those who could not otherwise be bribed or intimidated, developed a situation where most of the politicians became the puppets of those who funded them, while most of "We the People" simultaneously became the masses of muppets, enough of whom could be fooled enough of the time, by the political puppets that were presented in the puppet shows put on by the mass media, which were themselves more and more consolidated into bigger corporations.
Primarily due to the maximum leverage existing through the positive feedback loops through the funding of the political processes, the government of the people, by the people, for the people, became more and more the government of the money, by the money, for the money. The profits from frauds were reinvested in more frauds. The effectively privatization of the public "money" supply resulted in the powers of government being used to back up frauds by privately controlled banks. The monetary system became legalized counterfeiting, by the best organized gangs of criminals which were able to capture control over the government. That automatically got worse, faster, as big corporations grew up around big banks, feeding the vicious spirals of more and more privatization of public powers to serve the vested interests of the best organized gangs of criminals, who were able to more and more legalize their crimes.
As that situation developed, the public school systems and mass media became more and more deliberately developed in ways which were intended to brainwash the vast majority of people to believe in bullshit. The degree to which that agenda has been successful is the degree to which "We the People" became "Zombie Sheeple," while the only publicly significant opposition groups became "Black Sheeple." (Of course, there were thousands of years of the history of Neolithic Civilizations' social pyramid systems behind enabling American history to follow the paths that I have outlined above.)
At the present time, I doubt there is any practical political point in my bothering to express my views, since there are no effective ways to penetrate through the established situations that the monetary system has become like a totally metastasized cancer. It appears to me that our society has become too terminally sick and insane to recover. But nevertheless, one metaphorical way to express my recommendations are that the genuine solutions are for "everyone to become better wolves" rather than that "everyone should become better sheep."
OF COURSE, I REPEAT, given the social facts that the ruling classes are "wolves in sheep's clothing" while the controlled opposition are Black Sheeple, it is practically impossible that enough of the Zombie Sheeple will stop acting like incompetent political idiots. But nevertheless, the only genuine solutions would require that enough people understood the problems better ... Despite that requiring such series of paradigm shifts in the ways that they perceive politics would amount to a series of political miracles, I still think that the basics could be summarized as being that enough people should stop relying upon old-fashioned DUALITIES, and instead start using more UNITARY MECHANISMS. Governments are NECESSARILY the biggest form of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals. The ONLY way that "We the People" could recapture control over the powers of governments was if they understood and accepted that de facto situation enough to respond more effectively to their real problems.
All private property is based on backing up claims with coercions. There is no private property outside of some system of public violence that backs that up. The most abstract form of that manifests in the ways that money is measurement backed by murder. The ability of privately controlled banks to create "money" out of nothing as debts for everyone else only works because those frauds are enforced by governments, which define that money as legal tender, and demand payment of taxes be made in that form of money. The heart of any real, radical revolution would be for "We the People" to recapture control over the public money supply. However, it is necessarily the case that the debt controls depend upon the death controls. There are no genuine solutions to the American monetary system having become an absurd state religion than for enough people to understand and accept how and why money is necessarily measurement backed by murder.
The primary American systems are the American Dollar and the American Military, which work together as the combined American money/murder systems, which have been dominating the planet since World War II. The American monetary system is in turn dominated by the international bankers, who similarly dominate most of the rest of the world, and certainly other NATO countries. The Federal Reserve Board is the American King of Fraud, while the Bank of International Settlements is the King of Kings of Fraud.
The basic human history was that the War Kings created sovereign states, whose powers were covertly captured and effectively privatized by the Fraud Kings, the bankers. The established systems were always debt slavery, backed by wars based on deceits, which have been developing at an exponential rate, with the recent manifestations of that doubling down becoming the astronomically amplified globalized systems of electronic monkey money frauds, backed by the threat of force from apes with atomic bombs, or the MAD Money As Debt Systems, backed by the MAD Mutual Assured Destruction systems.
All the way along, there was nothing but the dynamic equilibria of different systems of organized lies operating robberies. Human beings and human civilizations were always operating as entropic pumps of energy flows. However, the ways in which the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories were able to dominate society have resulted in those stories becoming as backward and absurd as they could possible be, since civilization was always based upon backing up lies with violence, while those who were the best at doing that made and maintained governments.
The article above correctly recognized some of ways that the government of the USA has become the biggest form of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, whose interests are more and more diverging widely from the vast majority of the American people. However, those kinds of articles, like the one above, do not go through the looking glass of our Bizarro Mirror World, on through the rabbit hole of our Wonderland Matrix, enough to come out the other side with genuinely realistic solutions, rather than collapse back to promoting the same old false fundamental dichotomies and related impossible ideals, that backfire badly, since those were never realistic, but rather, originally the biggest bullies' bullshit, which the controlled opposition groups also promote.
I REPEAT:
Everyone has some power to rob. That is the basis of the power of "We the People." It should be obvious that any real, radical revolutions are going to change the ways that money operates as measurements backed by murders. There is nothing less that could be sufficient. There is nothing wrong with the theory of democratic republic operating through the rule of law. However, that cannot work unless enough citizens are realistic enough about their real problems. At the present time, the vast majority of Zombie Sheeple are not able to think through what there real problems actually are, and therefore, can not think through what realistic resolutions of those problems would require, namely changes in the dynamic equilibria between the different systems of organized lies operating robberies.
OF COURSE, what is actually most likely to happen is that most of "We the People" will continue being "Zombie Sheeple." The runaway systems of debt slavery are going to continue to drive their numbers to become debt insanities, which are going to provoke death insanities. The vast majority of people will probably continue to not understand that, because they will continue to feel like they do not want to understand, which will be aided and abetted by the controlled opposition groups acting as Black Sheeple. Hence, we will really have no other choices than to continue to muddle through the MADNESS.
America has led the world for a while, and now paradoxically continues to lead the world into the coming times where severe social storms are going to blow through. Since the political economy has become almost totally based upon ENFORCED FRAUDS, which suffer from the dilemma that backing up lies with violence can never stop that lies from being false, and therefore, the more socially successful systems based on ENFORCING FRAUDS become, the more psychotically insane that society becomes, because the more out of touch with reality it becomes. America is necessarily headed towards some series of psychotic breakdowns, and some degree of crazy collapses into chaos.
Ideally, if enough people understood enough how and why that was happening, then it may be possible to mitigate how bad that became, and perhaps to recover sooner and better from having done that. However, we are already passed the point where it would be possible to have sufficient "reforms" of the established systems. The foundations of ENFORCED FRAUDS are too rotten to be able to reform adequately. There must necessarily be some sort of real, radical revolutions, and/or civil wars, because the real problems require radical changes, in one way or another, sooner or later ...
For several decades I have been endeavouring to develop theories regarding what scientific revolutions we need, in order to have better real, radical revolutions, that apply through political science to the change the combined money/murder systems. Of course, there is a vanishingly small group of people who are interested in that, since there is almost nothing but the established systems of organized crime, surrounded by controlled opposition groups, both of which do not want to change the ways that they think.
In my view, the way forward is to better appreciate the profound paradigm shifts which have already been achieved in physical sciences, such as quantum mechanics, and the special theory of relativity, which have enabled the technologies that make cultural transformations more imperative, such as electronics and atomic energy. Furthermore, in my view, it is clear that post-modernizing science is re-converging through a creative synthesis with ancient mysticism, and that is the most essential way that there should be revolutionary developments.
TO REPEAT:
The government IS on the warpath, because governments are basically military organizations, which in turn were basically organized crime organizations. Therefore, IF "We the People" are to become better citizens, rather than continue to degenerate into worse and worse incompetent political idiots, that act like Zombie Sheeple, being fleeced and set up to be slaughtered, then they should rediscover their own inner Wolf. The only ways that there could be real, radical, revolutions that were worthwhile is IF enough citizens understood that they were necessarily members of a military organization, or members of an organized crime gang. That is the only way that they could more effectively respond to the ways that the government has become the biggest form of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gang of criminals.
RM,
Voluminously put.
You seem to be making the assertion (both vaguely here and more directly elsewhere) that political change cannot happen (or is astronomically unlikely) because the following requirements are necessary:
1) Significant proportions of the population to be wise enough to understand the change.
2) This must happen at one point in time.
I disagree. It is quite possible to design systems which start very small and grow virally. These types of systems are also the most difficult to detect and quantify.
For an example of this kind of system, consider the theory of evolution. Genetic mutations are such systems and they have no such requirements as you suggest to work just fine.
Perhaps alternative world views begin like that ... There are clearly analogies between memes and genes, or analogies between how cultural evolution and biological evolution occurs. However, those alternatives would not be able to become significant unless they were assembled into sufficient systems to change the established systems.
At the present time, it appears clear that only a tiny percentage of population is able and willing to think sufficiently different thoughts, and that is not enough to enable significant sociopolitical transformations. Of course, natural selection is always the back-up system for artificial selection. Indeed, most of my ambitions are about how the development of memes may enable transformations in the cultural systems of artificial selection. However, it appears to be clearly the case now that the established systems must much more MADLY destroy themselves due to their own MADNESS, before enough opportunities may open up for new systems to emerge.
While genetic mutations may appear to spontaneously develop, (or develop to to causes which operate outside of their frame of reference), those genetic mutations then enter into their world of evolutionary ecologies, so that the selection pressures may apply to increase their frequency. Similarly for mutant memes, in the senses of different ways of thinking, while those too may appear to emerge in relatively spontaneous ways (or due to causes outside of their frame of reference), those then enter into a sociopolitical world, where artificial selection pressures will apply to change their frequencies.
Therefore, I do not dispute the points you made, regarding how new memes may initially emerge, and may develop, but nevertheless, for those to amount to something sufficient would take what I have called for, which is for them to be assembled into alternative systems. After all, the point of a sufficiently real, radical, revolution is to become the new government. It is towards that end that I am promoting my versions of integrated scientific revolutions, which would result in integrated human, industrial and natural ecologies.
I promote retooling the fascist plutocracy, rather than destroying it. Indeed, as it destroys itself, due to its own MADNESS, that is the process whereby it enables its own possible transformations. Whatever the new systems might become, they will emerge from the seeds of the old systems, along with whatever mutated memes may emerge and be suitably selected for.
I REPEAT:
Only that which actually exists can actually evolve. The only things which exist are the dynamic equilibria of between different systems of organized lies operating robberies. New memes, which might enable new artificial selection systems, may emerge, and may become selected for within that context. Meanwhile, I continue to regard militarism to be the supreme ideology, because it is the ideology of the murder system that backs up the money system. Whatever the new memes may be, those still have to cope with the basic chronic political problems inherent in the nature of life. There are good reasons for how and why the established systems became the dominant systems. There could not be any genuinely better solutions that did not more fully embrace that.
It is plainly obvious that the combined American money/murder systems not only dominate Americans, but also the rest of the world ... (although all of that appears now to be more in jeopardy than it previously did for quite a few decades before now.) It is not possible for a few isolated meme mutations to change the established money/murder systems, unless or until those were assembled into bigger and more coherently integrated systems.
Anyway, sapioplex, I get the feeling that you continue to want to imagine changes in which there will be no death control systems, backing up debt controls systems, or at least none that human beings are consciously aware of operating. Surely, you are right that new memes may emerge relatively spontaneously, and then spread ... However, as those did emerge and spread they would necessarily have to self-assemble into bigger integrated systems, and those would have to become new systems of organized lies operating robberies, as new systems of government.
In my opinion, that is similar to the vague hopes expressed in the article above, where the author recommends a defensive posture, of "circling the wagons." On the contrary, what I tend to speculate about is how significant aspects of the established systems will be driven to radicalize and revolutionize themselves. At the present time it is not clear what will happen to the American Military and militarized police if, or when, they actually had to attempt to impose martial law on the American people.
I would expect that to drive some of them to think new thoughts. Indeed, from various third-hand reports, that I have absolutely no first-hand, or even second-hand knowledge about, I tend to suspect that quite a few of the people inside of the American Military and militarized police are thinking about their death control duties in quite different ways, when they are forced to consider what it would really mean to be ordered to impose martial law on the American people.
Indeed, in my own way, what I am suggesting is speaking to them, as much as anyone else, although I expect that they are listening as little as almost everyone else is to that kind of message. At the present time it is painfully obvious that more radical truths are a fringe cubed position. However, as the MADNESS of the established systems automatically becomes worse, faster, as it is, and must continue to do, the emergence and spreading of new memes, to perhaps survive to be integrated into new systems, becomes more possible to contemplate happening!
Funny, you should mention speaking to them. Recently, I sat at the bar, right next to a gent, who was part of the management team for the equestrian part off a very large police department and when the subject of what was coming up, came up, he emphatically stated, that they were going to do, what was righteous.
Radical Marijuana,
I'm pleased that you realize that life itself operates on the same "baby-steps" principle I envision for an alterative system of decision making. There appear to be no logical pathways to ignoring this, by the way. Evolution works - this is a fact. The scientific method works - also a fact. Sapiocracy is very similar in construction.
You've mentioned things like the "death control systems" and speculated that this is what I envision. You may be surprised that I do not feel my opinion (or yours) is relevant on any political issues. I assert that worrying about the right or wrong of specific issues supresses one's ability to realize there's a simple, elegant system lurking in the wings. Technology has empowered corruption, but has not yet empowered the victims of said corruption. Sapiocracy is an algorithm enabling the masses to structure their behavior in such a way as to disable corruption. Any particular political bent is not worthy of debate under Sapiocracy because Sapiocracy itself would be employed to naturally demostrate which methods works best for everyone involved and on every issue. Woe is he who predicts loudly only to be proven wrong in practice.
One thing you said early in your message was leaning toward the unlikiness that a better system could ever be successful against the current corruption because it would never become large enough to overtake it (I'm paragrasing.) One only needs to consider the absurdity of applying this same line of reasoning to evolution or the scientific method - the same arguments could have been made against both of those new ideas and will eventually be proven moot. Is the single organism blessed with a beneficial mutation hopeless? No, because its chances of survival are greater than all others that came before it. The same is true of new ideas demonstrated successful scientifically. On reflection, we know now why these two elegantly simple systems do what they do and we can easily see how they work. Before these systems were conceived, your argument would have seemed insurmountable. Please realize that the logic of Sapiocracy is very closely related to the logic of both evolution and the scientific method. This is no coincidence.
I can see that you've accomplished decades of experience doing what you do and I presume you're very good at it. I also know I'm proffering a solution which operates in a completely different dimension. I ask that you step outside of your sphere of political experience, take a theoretical step back and consider Sapiocracy for what it is: an apolitical system. Then consdier that I have challenged many people (including experts in distributed decision making theory) and not one has been able to punch a legitimate hole in it. (I rather wish they would because then I could write this off as failed idea. However, I cannot as the implications of success are too profound to not take seriously.)
Sapioplex,
I reply to:
Of course, I would agree with the idealized theories about how both evolution and the scientific method operate being potentially relevant to political developments. However, those are EXTREMELY PARADOXICAL in the ways that they apply to human civilizations.
Regarding my relative degree of personal success at what I have attempted to do, YES, given what I have tried to do, I have been relatively way more successful at doing that than anyone else I know. I actually proved in a court of law that senior government officials had been arrogantly dishonest, and therefore, they had to pay me punitive damages. (Throughout the jurisprudence, one will barely find a dozen cases in the British Commonwealth, at most, that were like mine, and mine was the most sublime of those.) HOWEVER, after proving that I was right about the Canadian political contribution tax credit, and that the government had been lying about that, and so, then being able to start to successfully develop that potential, within a few years, the government then changed the election laws to make their previous lies become the new legal truth, and thus, criminalized almost everything that my political party had been successfully doing.
(I had to go back to the drawing board, and start again ... my current work in that regard is here: Electoral District Associations)
The PARADOXICAL political problems in the real world are the ways that governments operate by being arrogantly dishonest. They usually can cheat and win, and even when they are proven in their own court of law to have cheated, they can then unilaterally change the rules of the game, so that they continue to still win.
Basically, my real life political experiences have been all about watching that happen first-hand. The government of Canada deliberately changed the elections laws in two ways in 2004 that effectively burned my political party to the ground, and then bulldozed that. Therefore, my relative "success" consists of that my party still exists, although it only barely survived, and I am still doing the same things that I had originally been doing, although under way more duress than before. Thus, my kind of personal success amount to having survived the government deliberately trying to wipe my political party out ... Ironically, the latest way that the established political system is wiping my party out is that the political party which was the government that wiped my party out in 2004 has now adopted the founding policies of my party. HAH! Like I said, real politics is EXTREMELY PARADOXICAL!
Therefore, relatively straightforward notions about what should work, and ways that theoretical scientific feedback methods ought to be able to apply to actual political problems are way more hyper-complicated than in any other domain that the scientific methods could be applied to ... Indeed, I spent several decades on becoming a self-taught expert about the funding of the political processes, especially in Canada, (& also quite a bit too about the USA). I ALWAYS found that the more I learned, the worse it got!
Given that background, I tend to doubt that it would ever become realistically possible that I could agree with your view of taking "Sapiocracy for what it is: an apolitical system." Perhaps, from sublime point of view, there is an apolitical way that energy flows through human civilizations. However, at the present time those are extremely political processes, while the political economy itself is based on ENFORCING FRAUDS, in the most political ways possible, since those are the established systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, which were made and maintained by the vicious spirals of the FUNDING OF POLITICS.
Many of the people who post comments on Zero Hedge tend to like to adhere to what I regard as false fundamental dichotomies, and impossible ideals. The problems that practical sapiocracy would face are the degree to which the established systems are based on backing up lies with violence, and those deliberately ignore any rational evidence or logical arguments that they do not like, because the only things that they care about are being able to continue to ENFORCE FRAUDS.
Political problems are EXTREMELY PARADOXICAL, because human intelligence got applied to become as dishonest as possible, and to back those lies up with violence. Idealized notions of what people should do, IF they were not so vicious, tend to NOT deal more directly with the real history of how some people have specialized in being as dishonest and violent as they could possibly be. Given those social facts about the existing social pyramid systems, "solutions" that WISH that things were not like that, or that they "should" be different, tend to not matter much. Furthermore, I emphasize, that there are deeper reasons for how and why human societies continue to be dominated by the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories.
I have not studied your view on "sapiocracy" enough to respond any better at this time. However, I REPEAT the basic points are HOW would that approach deal with the ways that there ARE murder systems, that back up money systems, which pay for those murder systems in return? That is essential nature of the problem which the article above danced around ... and then suggested that "we should circle the wagons" to deal with the runaway manner in which the combined money/murder systems, whereby privately controlled banks effectively privatized the powers of governments, so that the political economy is dominated by systems of ENFORCED FRAUDS, which are automatically getting worse, faster, as that debt slavery system drives itself towards numbers which are debt insanities, that threaten to result in provoking death insanities, because the debt controls always depended upon the death controls that backed them up.
THE ALREADY ESTABLISHED SYSTEMS BASED ON ENFORCED FRAUDS ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN WHAT WOULD ENABLE THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT MORE!
I REPEAT, there are profoundly paradoxical problems regarding how and why the actual death control systems were most socially successful by being the most deceitful about themselves. Those kinds of systems, and the people that benefit the most from the ENFORCED FRAUDS that enables, are NOT WILLING to become more rational or logical, EXCEPT to the degree that enables them to become better at being dishonest, and backing those lies up with violence.
Therefore, the seeds of "sapiocracy" appear to fall on very hard and stony ground in that context. Of course, I agree with the more sublime ideals of developing a more scientific society, which may asymptotically approach being more apolitical, to the degree that those sublime ideals could be realized. However, the practical political problems at the present time are the runaway train wreck in progress of the established systems based on ENFORCED FRAUDS being amplified to astronomical sizes by progress in science and technology primarily being applied to get better at being dishonest, and backing those lies up with violence.
The vicious spirals of POLITICAL FUNDING, that made and maintained the established systems of ENFORCED FRAUDS, are automatically getting worse, faster. The extreme lopsidedness of the role of money through politics is getting worse, faster, while those doing that have every advantage to continue to do that, and they also have every way to impose disadvantages on those who actually attempt to oppose them. Indeed, one of the worst political problems is that POLITICAL FUNDING includes how the established systems can control their opposition, in a wide variety of subversive ways, which nevertheless tend to be successful.
Although I might abstractly agree with the sublime "sapiocracy," in the real world, what we are actually required to do is muddle through the madness of the established systems being actually based on integrated systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, which are getting worse, faster, as we watch, especially since those systems of ENFORCED FRAUDS never resolve the basic contradictions that being able to ENFORCE FRAUDS never stops those FRAUDS from being false.
Given that the established systems have been doubling down on their ability to ENFORCE FRAUDS, and that doubling down, amplified by advancing technology, has become runway criminal insanities, whose inherent contradictions are headed towards series of psychotic breakdowns, I am not sure how "sapiocracy" is supposed to deal with that kind of reality, that civilization is ALREADY criminally insane, and ALREADY too criminally insane to be "reformed" by anything that is merely based on more rational evidence or logical arguments.
In my view, I am NOT sure how "sapiocracy" is supposed to muddle through the madness of the established systems, which are based on armour plated attitudes of generalized evil deliberate ignorance. The crucial issues continue to be how to develop better combined money/murder systems, when the actually existing systems developed to become most socially successful by being the most dishonest about themselves, while they thereby could continue to benefit in the short-term from their abilities to ENFORCE FRAUDS.
I am NOT saying that we should not try to develop a genuinely more scientific society, within which "sapiocracy" may well have a role. However, I AM asserting that the problems we really face are way worse than what superficial "sapiocracy" seems to be, so far, addressing. I not think it is possible to exaggerate the degree to which the real world of politics can be described as being like an insane asylum dominated by the most criminally insane inmates. Attempting to become a more scientific society within that context is much more extremely difficult than can be fully comprehended!
I still like the stall idea. It could level the field.
I can see why the gubment bullies foreign nations [not that I agree with it] but hard to understand why it hounds its own people an dbullies them.
Because they think of their people as property/tax slaves.
"The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia, but to keep the very structure of society intact." - George Orwell, 1984
Deal with 'em all and start all over...
Forget the Constitution, it wasn't written for us, but for the gentried landowners and slave owners of the day. Half of the delegates were died in the wool freemasons with ties to the crown, and the rest truly wanted a Republic. The handful who looked at the original plan added the "Bill of Rights" because they knew they could never sell the lie without it. Why would you need to add a bill of rights?
So, the bankster shennanigan's started from day one, and all subsequent wars, both sides instigated and financed by the same elite, placed the nuce of bondage around the populace a little at a time, yet they finally prevailed. We are now a bankrupt private corporation in receivership to these elite banksters, administered by executive priviledge, under a military state of emergency, and we are all considered enemies of the state, chattel hypoticated as surety for the bankruptcy, without allodial title to anything, and no actual currency, other than fractional fiat public debt instruments due back at the Federal Reserve at maturity, as they move through commerce and deteriorate. We have benefits and priviledges as long as we give all our energy to the banksters.
In other words, the lie goes quite deep and barely 2% of the population has even a modicum of any idea how the Babylonian bankster system works. Most people are happy with their slavery as long as you give them their dancing with the stars, their Kardashian's and their football and beer.
Read Judge Dales "The Great American Adventure" for a brief historical synopsis of the fraud.
Well said.
The notion that things have been hunky dory "up till now" ("Now" of course being anything from 1865, 1871, 1934, 1971, 2001, etc.) ignores the historical evidence (always there if you look, even under layers of spackle and whitewash).
People should familiarize themselves with the following, for a better perspective:
1180 Gelnhausen Charter
1648 Peace of Westphalia
1666 C'est Que Vie Act
1777 Articles of Confederation
Northwest Ordnance of 1787
Federalist/Anti-Federalist Papers
First and Second Bank of the United States
1789 Judiciary Act
Full text of the Treaty of Paris
Shay's Rebellion
Origins of the War of 1812
Lincoln's thoughts on Blacks and Slavery
Full Text of the 13th and 14th Amendments
1934 Bankruptcy Proceedings of the United States
We are conditioned from a young age to worship the Constitution and the BOR, because indoctrination is strongest when the brain is still in a plastic state.
The current system is the result of over 3000 years of trial, error, and sophistication. It is perhaps the greatest achievement of those that would subjugate and exploit in all of history.
Because the Serfs believe themselves to be the Kings. This single thing, more than any other, is what facilitates this whole fraudulent, corrupt nightmare. Allows it to continue shambling forward, consuming lives and happiness.
The realization that it is the opposite (if indeed it ever happens for the majority of the Sheep), will be a cataclysmic, psyche-shattering apocalypse (unveiling) for those that held those beliefs.
It is truly horrible to contemplate.
Actually the Bill of Rights was added after the drafters sent it to the States for ratification by referendum and were told to pound sand until more protections were added.
The Constitution was established by referendum.
The opposite of referendum is dictum, whether it be dictum by a privileged minority of wealthy persons, or some other privileged minority.
The danger of ignoring the result of referendum, or even of suggesting it, is that it by so doing it further empowers elites who have always preferred rule by dictum.
Yes the generational continuity is very impressive.
It looks like they have finally managed to herd all of the deep political thinkers and rabble rousers onto one thread. …..
Welcome to The Machine.
You will be neutralized.
~ DC
Duh. You really think this is news to any of the posters here? FFS I knew that before I made my first post.
After they are done with all us rabble? Then its your turn. Just so ya know.
There are still plenty of people that don’t see avalanche coming.
There are still plenty of people that think they can fix the system using the system.
One more succinct warning of what we are facing can’t hurt.
And yep, my turn will come and The Machine will eat me too but I intend to stay out of its maul as long as possible and seriously strip some gears as I finally pass through the chipper.
I just don’t think circling the wagons is a very wise tactical move in the face of overwhelming force.
But your point is well taken, this is not news to the ZH rabble. That’s one of the many reasons I like the place.
~ DC
Public enemy #1: Zionism
Public enemy #2: Christian Zionists which allow #1 to fester
SPQR = Senatus Populusque Romanus = Senate & People of Rome
It still became a Republic ruled by Emperors just like the US Global Empire (USGE)
I'll pick up where the article left off. First it doesn't take all of us to do something. No one other that you can go into a court to claim your rights. You can hire a lawyer, if you want a big bill for losing. Or you can learn to defend yourself. The people (not the citizens) have inalienable rights. They are God given and cannot be taken from you. They include many, many rights, but among the most important is the right to property. Without it, you own nothing. A group of people who conspire against your rights are criminals. If they are in government, they are not exempt and actually commit more crimes due to them being part of the government trust. Voting will not cure this problem only standing up for rights can cure this problem.
The people of eatern Ukraine have circled their wagons and beaten back the Zio-Nazi government pretty well.
Regardless of the fat-and-lazy stereotypes, Americans will do the same, albeit at the last minute.
Re; "Regardless of the fat-and-lazy stereotypes, Americans will do the same, albeit at the last minute."
Which Americans?
Fully one third of the American population is reliant upon .gov for their very survival, be it food stamps, SS, medicare, disability....
Once your very life depends on the largess of another, you are chatel, and indeed will fight any who threaten the security of your existance.
There is a reason .gov has pushed to create as many "dependants" as possible.
A dog will not bite the hand that feeds it.
I was taught that "We the People" refered to "Congress Assembled", (note the capital P). They are the ones rhat formed the Union so mentioned,. We the "people" (note the small p) are mentioned later in the document. Congress Assembled is a Corporation, so there you have it.
The key to cutting government down to a size where it can be controlled, is in preventing its access to resources.
The Government can get resources in three ways:
1) Taxation
2) Inflation
3) Aggression
TAXATION:
Taxation is inevitable. To control the government, the object of taxation must be the most out of their control, and most within The People's control.
- Income tax is the worst because it is the most intrusive and hardest for tax-payers to avoid. You cannot avoid income and live.
- Sales Tax is the next worst, for the same reason. You can avoid it somewhat by self-sufficiency...but the reality is that one person's sales is another person's income.
- Excise Taxes are the best alternative, because each industry group competes to have the other's taxed instead, while that which is taxed is reduced, and as a result reduces the government's income and power.
INFLATION:
- Discretionary control over money supply must be eliminated. This means hard, currencies only, managed by the treasury (or better...hard currencies managed by innumerable issuers, with at most a statutory definition of PM content & weights).
- The panics of the late 19th Century, occurred mostly by foreign and internal manipulation. Internal manipulation should be controlled by criminal law. Foreign manipulation is mostly enabled by Foreign CB suspension and/or delay of payments. It is the method whereby bankrupt foreign CBs seize your money.
- For instance, in the Panic of 1907, the BOE accepted Gold in received by shippers to transport the fall harvest to Europe, but they delayed paying the gold due in the sale of that harvest...and then raised interest rates. Limiting domestic banks' ability to extend fractionally reserved or un-backed credit limits the reach of this type of manipulation.
AGGRESSION:
- They can always use military or police force (which the founders would have understood to be the same thing) to simply TAKE what they want.
- There are four bullwarks against this that can be done:
1) Law Enforcement should be concentrated, raised, funded and controlled from the lowest levels of government - township and county. Law enforcement at higher levels should be avoided, and viewed with suspicion, though higher level law enforcement STANDARDS, and INFORMATION could be shared if the higher level organization had zero Law Enforcement powers of their own.
2) Military culture must heavily weight loyalty to the Constitution, rather than to the government created by that constitution ... Ron Paul voting evidence would suggest the military is mostly already there. Don't expect 100% to remain loyal. A 100% standard is not realistic in any field of endeavor.
3) Army funding must be short term, to make the Army more beholden to the popular source of their funding. Notably, this is done in the Constitution by funding only for two years. And it works. But other 'Armies' have been created that are exempt - like all the 3-letter agencies.
4) Locally controlled Militia's. Think Army National Guard, but raised, regulated, and equipped locally, consisting mostly of volunteers, with self-provided arms in specified calibers and types, who work upto 40 days per year in return for property tax exemptions or other tax credits. This should be the vast, vast majority of 'man with rifle' infantry in the country. And it should be totally forbidden from the operational control of higher levels of government except in very narrowly defined circumstances. Many states already have provision for this in their State Constitutions. All the States need this. And moreover, these provisions must be exercised. It should largely take the place of what FEMA is supposed to do. And having such organizations standing, manned, and ready, is the only way for us to 'hang together' when under aggressive attack.
I refuse to be governed.
I also refuse to govern.
When will humans realize that any form of "govern" is simply the assertion "I intend to abuse you", and nothing more?
Reject all forms of abuse, especially supposed universal ones like "govern". Otherwise, humans are finished (which they are).