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Greece Shows Nazi Video To Commuters In Desperate War Reparations Bid
Two weeks ago, an unnamed EU official told Handelsblatt that it was “completely absurd” to think that Greece would be able to make a €750 million payment to the IMF on May 12. Essentially, the official said, it was logistically impossible. Impossible that is, unless you use money which is already at the IMF to pay the bill, then it becomes not only possible, but very easy logistically, even as the sheer absurdity of tapping SDR reserves to pay the Fund makes it very difficult to swallow politically.
At the time, we said the following: "So while things do not look particularly promising in terms of avoiding a Greek default in just 10 days' time, Athens can always (re)play the war reparations card." As it turns out, we were right on the money (no pun intended) because Greece did indeed effectively default, and now we learn that Syriza is once again playing the war reparations card, this time by looping a video of the Nazi occupation on public transportation.
Via CNN:
Greece is stepping up pressure on Germany to pay billions in compensation for war damages by running a video depicting Nazi crimes.
The 50-second video, displayed on public transportation in Athens, features graphic images of wartime suffering, including people starving to death, children being sent to concentration camps, and villages being destroyed. The video's tagline is: "We claim what Germany owes to us."
"The focus (of the campaign) is to rescue the historical memory of the Greek people," said Kyriakos Zilakos, a Greek Defense Ministry spokesman.
Athens claims Germany owes Greece 279 billion euros ($317 billion) in reparations for war damages. Berlin has firmly rejected the claim and said the matter has long been closed. Germany paid Greece 115 million marks in 1960, as required by reparation agreements. On top of that, it also paid compensation directly to individual victims of the Nazi regime in Greece -- forced laborers, for example.
But the Greek government is now saying the past payments were not enough.
"The issue of German debt is above all an ethical issue and the whole campaign aims at closing the wounds of the past," Zilakos said.
First, it’s worth mentioning that there’s something rather ironic about attempting to stir up an acute sense of nationalism via a video about Nazis , but irony aside, there’s also something a bit unnerving about the fact that the Greek government is now so desperate for cash that they are willing to sear WW II images into the minds of commuters, heightening already elevated anti-German sentiment in the process.
Meanwhile, Greece is selling off its largest port in an effort to raise cash and appease creditors. Here’s Reuters:
Greece on Thursday offered a concession to its international lenders by pushing ahead with the sale of its biggest port, Piraeus.
Greece has asked three firms to submit bids for a majority stake in the port, a senior privatisation official told Reuters, unblocking a major sale of a public asset as the EU and the IMF demand economic reforms from Athens.
Despite the conciliatory move, Germany's Bundesbank showed no sign of easing off on its hardline stance towards Greece.
Bundesbank chief Jens Weidmann criticised weekly top-ups of emergency funding to Greek banks, saying in a German newspaper interview that this broke a taboo against the European central banking system financing governments.
As for Varoufakis, well … he dreams in drachma:
“I wish we had the drachma, I wish we had never entered this monetary union. And I think that deep down all member states with the eurozone would agree with that now. Because it was very badly constructed. But once you are in, you don’t get out without a catastrophe”
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that's a little over the top.
Oh fuck the Greeks at this point & time.
To those of you who support the project -- explain to me how this is an example of European unity without answering my question with another question. AKA basic humanity 101.
Just start an educational lottery and pay down the debt that way, works over here.
Full tilt retard, here we come.
https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrBT7Vj31VV6ugArFVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzYTlyM2U5BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDTUFQMDA2XzEEc2VjA3Nj?p=Full+Tilt+Retard&fr=yfp-t-252
What about Alexander? Was he really so great?
Can we assume Greece will be repaying the Moguls and Rajahs and assorted Poobahs of India and its neighbors for damage inflicted by Alex?
When Greece leaves somewhere to direct hate, the only explantion for something like this.
I am sure Goldmans can answer that.. afterall, they "helped" the Greeks gain entry into this expirement.. An experiment so big that when it blows up it will affect us all..
Phoenix ouit of the ashes anyone...?
We can only hope...
It will never work. If Germany buckled it would have to pay other countries as well.
Just makes people within Greece hate the Germans.
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Just to remind the Germans they fucked with the wrong Tribe
Correction
Just To remind all white Homogeneous peoples Not To mess with the chosen ones
As if hollywood didn't have a monopoly on that
Tarantino Clooney et al
Good thing they had a version of this video with English subtitles. Greek would've been a tough translation for me. Very handy.
Thats bad to piss of the Germans..they will be your tourists in the future...and that is all Greece will have to sell in the future..is tourism...
More zio-sponsored madness. Documented fact that the true global rapists are the zios. F'em all.
Cheesepopes couldn't get this translated and spun into distribution fast enough....
Oh NO!!! Not the Natzis again, when will the pain and sufferink ever end?!!!
Time for some videos on the holohoax to be run on the NYC subway with demands for trillions in reparations from the zios for the global holocaust they've caused.
I think you're more likely to see videos on the MTA of burning crosses and KKK Marches down Penn Ave in the 50s blaming the woes of the black population on the evil white people.
Glad Obama is there to mitigate racial tensions in the US.
"I hate Illinois Nazis"
~ Jake of Blues Brothers
I wonder if any film still exists of the Greek murder and despoliation of Jews and Syrians and Turks during the breakup of the Ottoman Empire after WW1...
Got a link?
Reasonable request--but for some reason I could not find a satisfactory one. The breakup of the Ottoman state was a period in which just about every ethnic or religious grouping went to horrendous lengths to enforce claims of statehood.
Maybe the Greeks should have showed the videos before they voted on the EU-SSR-Zio union and EURO.
jeez........
If the Ottoman Empire had not been defeated, would the criminal state of Israel exist..........I mean, that had to happen first as I really dont think that the Ottomans would just give the jews a homeland.
The jews planned the whole thing, and are responsible for both world wars.........
It is actually valid claim. It was not a pleasant occupation. Germany just doesn't want to hear about it.
By your logic, the Italians would be on the hook as well. Remember, they are the ones that got the shit show going in Greece.
Excellent point. It is amazing how these omissions in official historical memory work.
Yeup, but never mind. Why won't the Greeks go after the Italians for cash?
1) The Italians have no post-war guilt. Zero. They'd tell the Greeks to get fucked and go back to striking.
2) The Italians have no cash either.
Um, the Italians actually lost. Invaded and got summarily pushed back across the Albanian border soon after that.
Besides, Italy lost territory to Greece postwar. Dodecanese (Rhodes etc) was Italy's up until 1948.
As does not the west about the reasons for the start of WW1.
So we should put Greece in the position of having unpayable debt similar to that of pre WW2 Germany?
Counterpoint -
Debts imposed on Greece were done by 3rd parties.
Debts imposed on Greece now are done by themselves, because EU.
The world is still occupied by zio-madmen. When will this end?
How is it valid? The end of the war was 70 years ago. At some point people need to move on and be responsible for today and quit blaming the past.
There are still people alive who lived through it.
Yes, so the Italians are on the hook too? Right? What about the Austrians? I mean -- a good chunk of First Panzer Group were from Austria. Should they be on the hook as well?
I need answers if you are going to make claims like this.
Yeah. because I am making a totally ludicrous "claim" that when you shoot, starve, and rob and entire nation there should be some payback. Do you know what the NAZI's did in Greece? Do you think those films are re-enactments? They are a small portion of what actually happened. And now Germany is coming to starve and rob them again over some horse shit confetti they print themselves? WTF do you expect Greece to say? There is no justification at all for what Germany and the ECB are doing in Greece as the print 60B a month to bail themselves out. Greece owes Germany? Then Germany owes Greece.
Here is the occupation zone of Greece from 41-44;
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Triple_Occupation_of_...
Explain to me why the Germans need to pay, but the Italians (and hell, I'll even throw in the Bulgarians too) do not.
I'll wait.
Because the Germans have money and the Italians don't?
Bingo.
Lets see if our intellectually bankrupt friend and his government can admit the same.
(I think probably not)
There are two primary components in any risk-reward analysis. Ignore the former at your peril.
Your point being...what? Do think I am going to say warcrimes are okay if someone else does them? You have no point.
No, my point should be exceptionally easy, even for you to understand.
You say that Germany owes Greece money because of the invasion & occupation in WWII.
Ok, fine. I disagree, you are entitled to your opinion.
However, Germany wasn't even the largest force in the battle of Greece, Italy was, and you say the Italians don't owe anything but the Germans do, when, they did literally the exact same thing.
I am highlighting a logical disconnect within your argument, and am asking you to justify it. You don't seem able to.
I answered your question. You dont understand the answer because you don't even understand how Bulgaria ended up a vassal state of Germany in Ww2. You are oversimplifying an issue. My answer on warcrimes was sufficient. You have no point.
Ok, back to my original question -- what about Italy. If this is about compensation for war crimes then Greece needs to be going after Italy as hard if not harder than they are going after the Germans. Me thinks its a cash grab, and the Greek government is dancing on the graves of all those who died to try and extort cash out of the Germans.
I re-read you posts in this thread in case I missed it -- you've been dodging this question for quite a while now.
Either logically explain to me why Italy shouldn't have to pay, but Germany needs to, or admit you are an intellectually bankrupt asshole. Either one will work for me at this point & time.
The silence is deafening.
I answered your question. You keep insisting you don't understand. To what extent were crimes committed by Italy before Italy was occupied by Germany? To that extent they pay. You keep trying to oversimplify the politics because you don't know the history. My answer is the answer.
NAZI Germany without doubt invaded, looted, starved and murdered in Greece. You are telling me Greece deserves no adequate compensation? Fine, you have a retarded opinion like most nonthinking crowd followers. You hear a stupid opinion TV and repeat it until the MSM unscrews your head and pours in another one.
You are either 1) stupid, 2) ignorant or 3) a combination of 1 and 2.
Italy was never occupied by Germany you fool. It had an independent fascist government which allied with Nazi Germany. But apparently history isn't your strong suit, nor is intellectual honesty.
Your answer is one-sided biased bullshit. What you are saying is essentially this;
1) Germany should pay for Italy and Germany's war crimes & Italy shouldn't pay at all
or
2) War crimes committed before September 1943 don't matter.
I have never said war crimes didn't happen. They did. No one doubts that. I assert they were committed by the occuping forces being the Germans, the Italians and the Bulgarians. I therefor assert that all 3 should be liable to pay for said war crimes.
You say only one should pay.
So keep it up bud, you're just digging a larger hole for yourself.
Edit - and before you let the Bulgarians off the hook; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarisation
See, all you want is the cash, and you don't even have the stomach to admit it. No wonder this part of the world has become a rotten shithole.
Italy was occupied by Germany during WW2, dude. LOL. They were about to surrender to the allies so Hitler invaded.
Please just stop. You have no valid points, no understanding of the basic concepts of law, or even an understanding of WW2 history.
Feel free to keep pretending I said only one party that commits a warcrime should pay. You simply looked at a wiki page out of context. You misunderstand the situation. You emotionally responded. Now you want to put words in my mouth.
Hi, my name is Benito Mussolini, have we met?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini
I came to power in Italy in the mid-1920s, I supported the German annexation of Austria to help improve relations with Fascist Italy, as I needed Hitler's support to retain control of my government. Then, in 1936 I signed willingly a treaty with Berlin to cement the Rome-Berlin axis.
So unless you are really willing to say that Germany was threating to invade Italy in 1923, when he came to power (when Germany experienced 500000% inflation and had no military) -- you are again filled with shit.
I can do this all day. I have no problem citing source after source after source. You can keep grasping at straws and looking foolish publically.
EDIT - I don't need to put words in your mouth. You are doing the hard work for me.
Germany occupied italy in 1943 after Italy signed a peace treaty with the allies. Clearly, you are just going to keep blathering because your epeen got all dented. Have a good day.
My epeen didn't get dented at all.
You still have yet to answer my original question, being why Germany should pay -- and Bulgaria and Italy shouldn't.
Run away child, run away, or gas yourself. Either or.
I answered you repeatedly. But you live in a world where facts like like Bulgaria was a vassal state of Germany, and Italy actually switched sides in the middle of the war don't matter. Italian soldiers actually fought Germany, not just in Italy, but in Greece as well.
I will repeat it again. To the extent war crimes were committed, they should be compensated for. That is the answer. You have no points to make by attacking the same answer I keep giving you over and over. You don;t understand this because you don't undersatnd the facts of the conflict.
Fact - Italy invaded & occupied Greece and committed war crimes there.
Fact - Bulgarian occupied Greece and committed war crimes there.
Fact - Germany invaded and occupied Greece and commited war crimes there.
Fact - You just want one of the above to pay.
Maps have funny little things called LEGENDS, that usually have important words in them.
Definitely
read some history while you're waiting. lmao
Because the Italians didn't destroy entire villages, starve cities...does the obvious have to be spelled out to you?
Greece could always grow a spine and just default. Tell the Germans were even and default, let the chips fall where the chips fall. Trying to guilt trip them into paying for crimes from 70 years ago is bound to fail and only going to cause more hard feelings.
is not like there is no precedent
germony's paying is well established
No you can still blame the past and the ones who today profited from it, when they won't talk, all that needs to be payed are the consequences, which are being addressed in a small manner here and there. It's the big picture consequences that are coming due soon one should worry about.
as long as it's not you on the short end of the stick. right?
tell the israelis that while you're being so self-righteous.
I swear, if I ever see one of those Natzis, I'm going to kick his ass. Even if he is almost 100 years old by now, he's getting it!
How fucked is Greece? Oh dear.
Desperate people do desperate things and the more desperate we, all, become, the more desperate our actions will become.
If I could, I would start a Bunkers R Us business but I, still, haven't figured out how to keep a, grid down, bunker from flooding.
The Geek Leaders need to distract their people form their own mismanagement. Classic, to point the finger at someone else.
Pay them in Reichmark
good idea.
it's coming back soon.
As the incestuous debauchery and delusional behavior of going completely insane continues...
After seeing this video I really don't mind too much at this point if my life ends with my body being disrupted and scattered into pieces of ash by a very large Russian thermonuclear warhead!
Greece is Europe's bitch, and it's DP Time!
"but once you are in...."
well, either take the pain..and take new friends
or stay and help loot yourself and next generations futures
The current corrupt regime that controls Greece is heavily influenced if not completely controlled by the cabal, which is in direct opposition to Greek nationalists that actually care about the future of the country and its culture.
This campaign is likely to backfire, because there is a growing body of Greek nationalists that are fed up with some of the same tactics being used by the cabal in Greece that they used in Germany prior to WW II to manipulate the economy for their benefit.
Ask yourself, which group is most likely to use this type of a tactic to extort more money out of Germany? That should give you a good idea as to who is actually behind this maneuver.
It's not the German people that the Greeks should despise, its the cabal - and they are increasingly aware of this.
Also ask yourself, if Germany does cave in and pay (as they have unfortunately been all too quick to do in the past), who will end up with the money? The Greek people? Right.
Once again the cabal pits different European peoples against each other to further its ends, just like it did in WW II.
Will be interesting to see how this shakes out.
Looks like a good argument for debt forgiveness. The EU of today unfortunately is actually the fourth riech which is taking over Europe in reverse. First economically, then militarily (remember talk of an "EU army"?). So, there won't be any reparations because the nazis are still in power.
I am empathetic with your suggestion that something be done for the Greek people (as opposed to the mountain of illegal immigrants which flood its shores daily), which could conceivably include debt forgiveness. However, do you really think that the banksters in control of this situation represent the interests of the German people? Dream on.
You need to brush up on your history. The policies and doctrines of the EU are completely at odds with the National Socialists doctrines of Germany that were in place prior to WW II. Merkel was formerly an East German communist (the ideology that the National Socialists fought against), and the EU (which she supports) has no interest whatsoever in preserving independent national sovereignty of any of the European nations.
In fact, the EU is dedicated to the opposite proposition - that no European national sovereignty should exist.
To imply the EU is the Fourth Reich demonstrates complete ignorance of this dichotomy.
Seems like Mussolini gets away in history much more than Hitler.....must be a Tribe thing.
He made the trains run on-time.
Reminds me of how many blackies think they should be owed money for slavery and segragation. Humans have no shame
Zios are the documented first slave traders. They owe the world trillions.
Some white Americans certainly dont. Please don't bring the rest of humanity down to your level.
I'm a fifth generation holoHOAX scammer, I mean survivor, and I want my reparations!
Do the citizens even give a shit that they are giving everything away. From the EU perspective, could this go any better?
Take every fucking asset with printed papaer
i feel sorry for the 99% of greece population
eu-oligarchs and superrich (a lot of them are eu-jews) forced nearly all european countrys into a union without central fiscal policy, while printing endless money, witch goes straight into pockets of eu-oligarchs and superrich
ireland resisted so they arranged a second vote with manipulated outcome
soon there will be something like fiscal policy centralization?
i can remember something like that in the past, they called it soviet union
(at least there was a rumor of stabile economy in SU)
Reparatoins for any reason are pure bullshit. One can never really heal wounds with money - that's just greed in disguise. Once the money is gone - then what?
Time for the Germans to run the footage of the invasions from Rome. Oh. Right. No cameras back then. Darn.
As if Greece is the only nation to use this card. I can think of one bloodsucker who's been playing it since 1948. The only difference is they've been getting paid every year since, and more.
It is a sad thing when a European country basically has to sell the country in order to try to stay a country and not become a vassal province.
It think that Greece will never be a proud country anymore, no fenix there.
Was the video produced in Hollywood?
Greece should just make friends with North Korea and ask them to print them enough dollors to pay off all the debt they have. Trade some olive oil for counterfeit dollors. It's no more crazy then borrowing money from the IMF to pay the IMF.
That video should show them they all need to be armed in case a government force tries to.....wait nevermind, don't do that.
“I wish we had the drachma, I wish we had never entered this monetary union. And I think that deep down all member states with the eurozone would agree with that now. Because it was very badly constructed. But once you are in, you don’t get out without a catastrophe”
Jump for chrissakes and join the BRICS, if not shut dafuck up, bend over and be prepared to be harvested and your grandchildren's children by the Anglozionazi Empire for eternity!
They need to bring back the Colonels.
It's for their own good.
Just sayin.......
Golden Dawn? oh, by the way, the Italians invaded Hellas first not the Germans
If I was German I'd go all Tony Montana on them greeks.
The problem is the same throughout history. The leadership sells out and faces no consequences, that is until war breaks out and family members are lost and their own individual quality of life suffers. We are a reactive species.
This reperations shit is blame shifting for the populous to vet anger but I do understand why current Greek leadership wishes Greece hadn't joined the union.
I remember back in think it was 1992 German PM warning that for a union to succeed the political democratic framework would need to be far more advanced instead of monetary framework leading the way. So it wasnt as if the Greek leadership didnt have proper considerations before joining, I mean after all democracy was invented there and the historic lessons both good and bad were right in there faces.
In the short term debt issuance was beneficial to the people so they didnt consider the long-term consequences, same deal as here in the USA. Default in some form becomes the only solution.
It can be a really fucked up world and as an individual one can and should learn the evolutionary leason of predators and prey. We all want the best food, mate and castle and it can be obtained without being ruthless but expect scams and robbers and hedge accordingly best to ability and means while going for better quality of life.
If I were Chancellor, I would send the panzers back to finish the job - the greeks are DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol you get this on msm all the time in one shape or form.
depending on which country the ussa is invading at the moment
if you're in DE you get a dose of nazi history every night on ZDF or Phoenix.
in DE they call them documentaries.
nothing to get self-righteous about.
wake up sheeple.
this is a ploy to help start ww3. the nazis and oligarchy still control all of the european leaders behind the scenes and are setting up the stage for more war. why is it that no one is talking about u.s. warcrimes in vietnam for having killed well over 1 million civilians INTENTIONALLY BOMBING CIVILIAN VILLAGES AND ACKNOWLEDGING THIS FACT. this is admitted by the u.s.g. and no one cares because no one is trying to start a new war between vietnam and america. and the vietnemese will get no money for complaining. the armenians want money like the jews got money as the turks did precisely the same thing as the nazis in cataloguing property that was stolen/confiscated in detailed files. aint gonna happen for the armenians until turkish american relations sour. and even then, it might be all too late for the armenian reparations. too much time goes by and people don't care enough to support the few who want money/reps.
if you think the u.s. ISN'T controlled by nazis. the bush family was a nazi supporting banking family tied to the walker family. the same walker family connected to the man running for president from wisconsin.
it's all one big nazi secret club. and you're not in it.
If Syriza executed all the former Greek government officials who
accepted the corrupt deals with the EU, Germany should pay
Greece compensation, otherwise, Greeks should go f*ck themselves.
Luckily Germany is a sovereign nation so they can say to Greece to go fuck itself.