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UK PM David Cameron Proclaims: It’s Not Enough To Follow The Law, You Must Love Big Brother
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
It’s not just those domestic extremists and crazy “conspiracy theory” kooks who took serious issue with UK Prime Minister David Cameron’s recent overtly fascist language when it comes to freedom of expression in Great Britain. For example, in a post published today, the UK Independent describes the quote below as “the creepiest thing David Cameron has ever said.”
This statement, and others like it, are a huge deal. This isn’t how the leader of a major civilized Western so-called “democracy” speaks to the citizenry. It is how a master talks to his slaves. How a ruler addresses his subjects. I think the following tweet by Glenn Greenwald earlier today sums up David Cameron’s attitude perfectly well:
This is really the mentality of Her Majesty's Government RT @akaSassinak But now it is not enough to obey. You must LOVE BIG BROTHER.
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) May 14, 2015
Those of us who are in disbelief over David Cameron’s recent language, don’t have to just point to the quote above. There’s a lot more to it than a simple quote. For example, the Guardian reports:
The measures would give the police powers to apply to the high court for an order to limit the “harmful activities” of an extremist individual. The definition of harmful is to include a risk of public disorder, a risk of harassment, alarm or distress or creating a “threat to the functioning of democracy”.
A “risk of public disorder,” or a “risk of harassment alarm or distress.” Think about that for a second. Pretty much 90% of all speech could be classified as posing a risk to all of those things. It’s basically banning any criticism the government doesn’t like. Truly remarkable. Now here’s how the magnificent “democracy” of Great Britain plans on dealing with such “extremists.”
They would include a ban on broadcasting and a requirement to submit to the police in advance any proposed publication on the web and social media or in print. The bill will also contain plans for banning orders for extremist organizations which seek to undermine democracy or use hate speech in public places, but it will fall short of banning on the grounds of provoking hatred.
Although I’m not a British citizen and have never lived in the UK, I have spent some time writing about the disturbing trends happening across the pond due to the historic, cultural, geopolitical and linguistic ties between the U.S. and Great Britain. I warned all about these dangerous trends last fall in the post, The UK’s Conservative Party Declares War on YouTube, Twitter, Free Speech and Common Sense. Here are a few excerpts:
Teresa May wants to “ban non-violent extremist groups that fall short of the current threshold for being banned as terrorist-related organizations.” Think about that very closely. Essentially, she is saying non-violent groups that are currently not breaking any laws should be criminalized by creating new laws. Once this process begins, it will continue to be expanded and expanded until pretty much every form of expression other than government propaganda will be banned.
Secondly, she notes that the new laws are necessary to combat groups that undertake activities “for the purpose of overthrowing democracy.” Considering that the U.S. government changes the meanings of words at a moment’s notice, such as claiming that “imminent” doesn’t really mean “imminent,” I argue that an official government definition of democracy is necessary. Moreover, what if the UK is like the U.S., a state that claims to be a democracy, but in reality is an oligarchy? What are the rules about calling for the removal of an oligarchy?
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Vote to change the laws. Good one. Hahahahah
you are lost in the dark....
"The Law" Frederic Bastiat
"If you throw out civilized law" -- John Corzine is that you? Perhaps you are Hank "tanks in the streets" Paulson.
Civilized law has already been thrown out you stupid fuck, that's the point!!!
The tipping point has already been passed, moral hazard on a scale never before seen (just look at wealth and income inequality) has already been unleashed!!!!
Did that 2-year-old in Georgia whose face was fragged by the thugcop fail to obey orders as the house raid progressed?
Voltaire had it right -
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
Does anyone takes him or the British serious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhlQfXUk7w
Really ?
the uk is a pretty decent place to be born and live
there are likely better places but i guess maybe 90% of the world have it worse than me, 9% the same and 1% better so in context let's not get carried away
Sure we can keep comparing western civilizations to third world countries but at some point they're going to move our desk to the basement and hand us a can of roach spray on our way down the stairs.
Terrorism is a gift the Elites just can't seem to get enough of.
Catch all to do what they want and the sheeple happily go along because let's not forget they're all scared about a 7million to one chance of dying via a terrorism act.
While it may be said that everyone is worthy of love ... it is hard to find ANY aspects of "Big Brother" that are lovable.
The corps is mother the corps is father ...
They'll save democracy by killing it.
Democracy is rule by the majority. Maybe the majority is ruling. I do not know.
The implication is that in their democracy it is illegal to be a minority.
Good Point. …the tyranny of the (alleged) majority…
http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/jsmill.htm
The only thing useful that comes out of analyzing income and wealth inequality is that it tells you exactly who is "ruling".
When your monetary system has been hijacked by a corrupt few, compensation, measure in that corrupt fiat, no longer flows to really productive and useful people and causes. It flows to the corrupt, period.
humanity will have to re-learn what "value" really means, again.
same as it ever was...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cameron
under origins
quote:"Through Levita, Cameron is a descendent of the Levites, who themselves claim to be descended from Moses."
and quote:"David Cameron's great-great-grandfather Emile Levita was a German jewish financier and a direct descendant of Renaissance scholar EliaLevita, the author of Bovo-Bukh, the first secular work ever published in Yiddish. Emile Levita obtained British citizenship in 1871"
davids name david is not choosen because they like its pronauciation
NOW OBEY THE JEWISH ORDER YOU FI.LTHY MUSLIM AND STUPID CHRISTIAN!!!!
because david was decended to you from moses
Just because someone thinks he is descended from Moses does not mean that he must be evil. He has a choice, doesn't he? Just because a large portion of God's people have been clipped from the tree, does not mean that they cannot be grafted back on.
2000 years later they are still trying to prove they are right and thinking that deception and force will help them do so.
it dont makes him evil, it makes him insane. they are sick people.
and if he believes in judaism or not, he is a pro-israel zionist
“You have a British prime minister whose belief in Israel is unbreakable and whose commitment to Israel’s security will always be rock-solid, Cameron said in a speech"
i can imagine how rotten the inside of the head of this person is
europs nonjewish population is screwed
and if you know judaism and the talmud you can decide if its evil to you or not
I would say the United Kingdom has just gone down the shitter. The U.S. isn't too far away either.
I'd like to read ITM96's take on Cameron the zionist stooge.
Here is the rest of his statement, mirroring Orwell's 1984:
"This government will conclusively turn the page on this failed approach. As the party of one nation, we will govern as one nation and bring our country together. That means actively promoting certain values.
“Freedom of speech. Freedom of worship. Democracy. The rule of law. Equal rights regardless of race, gender or sexuality.
“We must say to our citizens: this is what defines us as a society.”
So far no comment from US Media or elected officials.
Another zio in desperate need of a klinghoffer cocktail.
it's not often I am greatful to live under a typical Africa-style (the continent fyi not some half-assed attempt at being PC while referring to race) government, but shit like this makes me greatful
at least HERE corruption is in your face and state propoganda and security forces laughably inept so big brother is still just a reality TV show as opposed to the dawn of a new era
Thankfully Nature gave information a price tag at the beginning of the universe - especially complex information...
Let me explain... Information follows the same rules as energy and mass. Energy is in fact simpler information. Information about people is way more complicated and interconnected. Information cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred or transformed, and that takes a lot of energy.
If you acquire information, especially valuable information that someone else created, and even more especially, information you don't deserve or absolutely shouldn't have, you have to pay for that information in a number of interconnected ways, mostly those ways are not at all obvious, neither is the cost a no brainer.
So David, better make sure you can pay the price when Nature brings you and your people the bills, for collecting all that lovely information you shouldn't really have, and particulary using it for selfish means :-) personally I'm relishing watching those bills dropping onto your doorsteps, and seeing Nature's debt collection service in action, which is the best there is and can't be beaten.
Well done on the 'win' by the way :-)
Next up, Oceania declares war on Eurasia.
"First they came for ......" Martin Niemoller
You get what you vote for.
Get ready for more unilateral decison-making, thanks to the people.
When is this going to stop? C'mon guys!
YOU ARE DEMOCRACY
Diebold fixes elections here in the US.
It's selection, not election.
http://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2012/03/absolute-proof-diebold-voting-m...
And this never was a Democracy.
God Bless Jim Messina for helping this shitwad win another election.
They're getting cold feet with the risk of their fake democracy being overthrown and them ending up dangling on the end of a rope. Under these laws they can shut down blogs and web forums to try and keep a lid on deteriorating living standards when bail-ins and wealth taxes begin.
Iit's fascism all the way from here on folks.
Fuck off ... twat!!
People with boots on their faces can't talk. Brits should have guillotined the Royals and back in the day when they had the chance.
Another one misusing the word democracy unless you understand how to read what the matrix really means.
It owns you through being able to emotionally control you. It is not any more complicated than that.
Now read Cameron's statement through an inverted filter.
A democracy is mob rules controlled by the whims of the mob. There is no minority rights in a democracy. They are emotion based not rational and logically based when it is a majority rules system. You can be right, logically and factually and still be in the minority in a democracy.
It is a psychological form of control not a political system. Puppetmaster rules the mob and everyone else puppets thinking they are in control since the puppetmaster can control the emotion to get them to vote majority rules by whim. If they are trying to scare you they are trying to control you through emotion. It is as simple as that.
If they try so hard to scare you then they are the most susceptible to fear in the first place else they wouldn't do it. Remember people are self centered twats (the masses are programmed to associate ego with self) and project their fears onto you to make themselves fell better not the other way around. What do you think Cameron is somehow genetically resistant to the braining wiring that follows this type of learning or was raised in some vacuum and therefore his brain didn't wire to associate these two like everyone else.
And if anyone uses just some simple logic was Britain ever a 'democracy' as far as a political system goes regardless of ideology? If the Prime Minister can't describe what the government is as a prerequisite for the job maybe he shouldn't be Prime Minister.
That silver spoon twat could have said that last week and still gotten elected.
This is nothing new. The Brits have always had this rancid odor of insecurity and paranoia. Orwell, of course, chanelled it quite effectively in 1984 and Bradbury in Fahrenheit 451. Both take place in Britain. Steeped in Fabian Socialism with a nice techno veneer, Britain wants to become an overt prison camp. Perhaps it is a feature of island societies or perhaps it originated in the ancient trauma of the Norman invasion, who knows? Their tribal Saxon cousins in Germany couldn't be more different.....
Don't worry about immigration, they said.
Multiculturalism will work out fine, they said.
If you don't like it you are a racist, they said.
Now we are stuck with a bunch of nutters spouting hate, beating women and gays and calling voting "a sin"
and the politicians don't know what to do... so, every year, they permit another half a million to enter
you can't make this shit up
We, the people, have been a passively tolerant group and, we believed, as long as you left us alone, we would leave you alone.
Law is law. Must obey the law or be paralleled to rioters and jailed!
Jail the non-conformists!
In this context it sounds like he is saying that even if you follow the "law", the government reserves the right to still jail you.
fucking insane.
Are the judges still cross-dressing wig wearers over there?
I’ve watched Springer. You just can’t trust cross-dressers.
The britsh Judges , they dress like buffoons of the 16 century . Another category of corrupt parasites that need reform ASAP .
The creepy pie-faced limey fop. In perfect company with the likes of Abbott, Hollande, Merkel, Obama, and that Harper creep. All wanna be Big Brothers. The propaganda still is not strong enough to give any of the aforementioned assholes approval by their respective populations.
The incoming Conservative Government is to be immediately disbanded after it was discovered they’re illegal under new laws forbidding ‘extremist groups’.
http://newsthump.com/2015/05/14/tories-accidentally-ban-themselves-under...
Since when have the English been civilized?
They've always been liars, cut-throats, colonialists, and lawyers.
If you want to beat a system that works on probabilities the best way to bet it is to not do anything. It can't factor that in as on of probabilistic outcomes if it is a total control system. Here is the basic logic, if you flip a coin what is the probability it will and on the edge of the coin, neither heads nor tails?
If you refuse to move or feed it, it can't not go into atrophy or else it loses control (that is not an option the way it works from a logic standpoint) and will keep expending more and more energy to get a response and in turn a probabilistic outcome it expects.
From the coin perspective this a coin that landed on the edge, the system will keep trying to push it one way or the other until lands on heads or tails.
This is why the Brits hated Ghandi, he represented the edge of a coin with his methods. Peaceful protest works in this manner. You also have to be able to keep your emotions flat while doing it can't allow it to control you. Fasting, sit ins atrophic actions in mass will burn up the whole system these control freaks put in place, because it can't stop because of the nature of having to control in the first place.
To expand a little more on the coin thing and why the system can't accept not doing nothing as probabilistic outcome.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem
Apply it to a coin flip with the 3 doors being heads, tails or edge of the coin. The first door opened always is the edge as far as system is concerned you will open one of the 2 other doors then. The odds are skewed in the systems favor this way unless you refuse to open any of the other doors.
This is what peaceful protest like Ghandi did represents from a probabilistic standpoint when applied to game theory.
Also what is democracy really, a simple heads or tails coin flip when it comes to majority rules, heads or tails that is it no matter the probabilities of it being heads or tails. There is never simple 50/50 choice there is always a transition point aka edge, you control that you skew the odds in your favor like Ghandi did.
Which brings me to my final point. If we had anything resembling true democracy voting systems would work like referendums nothing more. You don't have elections with multiple candidates for the same office. You just run one candidate and it is a simple vote yes or no majority for that candidate with the candidate for each office/seat representing the edge of a coin. If no then select another candidate and repeat the voting process until you get a yes vote. Leave all the other bullshit out like voting blocks etc. If they all got in on simple yes or no majority votes in this manner they know the mandates they are supposed to be operating under.
This punk is nothing more than a muppet ideolouge & lapdog for the marxist EU nightmare! Look for a phony corrupt referrendum played out in full with the poisonous help of the BBC & socialist media types! U.K is F'd with this loser in charge! The citizens are either delusional or in denial!
When you see stories like this, you have to wonder about the people who put guys like this in office. Its not like this behavior is something new for him.
To be fair, Ive wondered the same about people who vote for bottom feeders like Nasty Pelosi and Harry Weed.
They say politics is Hollywood for ugly people, but I think that saying should be updated to include "stupid."
"Hollywood is for ugly, stupid people."
That sounds more right.
Judging from the American Experience, I definitely would not say voters put anyone in office. Paraphrase George Carlin: if you believe THAT, then I recommend reading The Three Little Pigs for a little more insight.
Welcome to Uncle Dave's Gulag.
Sadly, it's in the 'royal' DNA of many Brits to have predilections towards Tyranny.
It must be comforting to the UK rulers that their direct subjects are mostly unarmed. I need to invest more time relationship-building with my neighbors. When the Fedcoats make their move, it will be the neighbors who become precious, life-saving allies. What Cameron is willing to state publicly drives MUCH of current US domestic policy. They will be coming for us all. In the future, you'll either be the world's best rat, or part of the insurgency.
Please, in the current system, most people already are (either a rat or insurgent).
I had similar thoughts - in the US we're left to read between the lines... as DHS loads up on ammo, other agencies (was it IRS or Dept of Ag?) buy submachine guns, and the local police learn to drive MRAPs and God knows what else. It doesn't take a mindreader to get the picture, especially if you pay attention to the laws that are being passed. Yesterday's threat was being labeled a "domestic terrorist", soon just speaking against TPTB will get you arrested or worse.
david camoron talks about his favorite book the home we build together and says thanks to his rabbi
how sweet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRjX9xbswW4
pity the baby
no wonder these
folks are crazy.
MISHNAH. WE PERFORM ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF CIRCUMCISION ON THE SABBATH. WE CIRCUMCISE, UNCOVER [THE CORONA], SUCK [THE WOUND], AND PLACE A COMPRESS AND CUMMIN UPON IT. IF ONE DID NOT CRUSH [THE CUMMIM] ON THE EVE OF THE SABBATH, HE MUST CHEW [IT] WITH HIS TEETH AND APPLY [IT TO THE WOUND] …
and it is like a bandage and cummin: just as when one does not apply a bandage and cummin there is danger, so here too if one does not do it there is danger …
I'm more alarmed by the Rand stands with our ally (sic) Israel ad top left.
Fitting though. Criticism - and I mean sober, fair criticism - of Israel's government is being criminalized.
In 5 years, remarking on the 8x Parliamentary over-rep of british jews will carry a prison term.
Cameron, of course, is their asset.
KNEEL! KNEEL BEFORE Z.O.G.!
shit's fucked up.
only 3 hasbara pukes?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/criminalizing-criticism-of-israel-in-canada/5376306
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/04/organizations-government-criminalize
http://www.counterpunch.org/2009/05/07/criminalizing-criticism-of-israel/
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2013/06/camerons-torah-government/
Sehr Gut Mein Herr.
"In early February 2014, The Economist noted that BDS “is turning mainstream,”2 and former Israeli Knesset Speaker Avraham Burg wrote in Haaretz that the “BDS movement is gaining momentum and is approaching the turning point [.... at which] sanctions against Israel will become a fait accompli.”3"
Sehr Interesant... Haben sie Ein Ziggarette? S/
Wow, a Vigorous Response is Pledged. I wonder if that would include Mossad Explosives or Drone Controlled Airplanes.
"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu made a point of indicating that he and his allies would respond vigorously to this trend. Some of the reports about a cabinet meeting where “tactics” were discussed revealed more about internecine divisions than about the substance of the meeting: “Netanyahu convenes strategy meeting to fight boycotts”—but he deliberately excluded some senior ministers:
“Left Ministers Kept Out of Secret Cabinet BDS Session.”4
just kidding... S/
Hm, Secret Agreements, Secret Meetings, more Secret People to be Employed, Leveraging of Lawyers, Employing of Lawyers, Teams of Lawyers, Use of Domestic and International Court Systems, Appeals to Judges at all Levels, International Lobbying in Canada & USA...
"Yet although Israeli media indicated “that ‘the discussion was held in secret’, with an imposed ‘media blackout’,” one source that reported this fact was able to give a fairly precise sense of what went on behind closed doors:
Ideas apparently discussed by senior ministers included lawsuits “in European and North American courts against [pro-BDS] organizations” and “legal action against financial institutions that boycott settlements … [and complicit] Israeli companies”. There is also the possibility of “encouraging anti-boycott legislation in friendly capitals around the world, such as Washington, Ottawa and Canberra”, and “activat[ing] the pro-Israel lobby in the U.S.” for such a purpose.5"
- All the more Reason to Limit the Number of Lawyers in the USA, Canada, UK, Europe, Australia, New Zealand...
lol it was about time for that famous catch 22 (1970) clip to become reality ...
https://youtu.be/lszztFTHTjE?list=PL45148AA96B44D95C&t=191
"love us and you are free, thats all"
some kind of griffin-episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uw57I5SD8s
He has just invited The High Court to make him look a fool. He has the problem of the ECHR anchored in the European Charter and the ECJ and The Good Friday Agreement in N. Ireland and in the Scottish Assembly.
This man is cretinous. He has the strictest libel laws in the world to gag free expression - as the McDonalds Two
http://www.mcspotlight.org/case/
a press controlled with DA Notices so Snowden cannot be given publicity; and an Advertising Budget designed to bring print media into line.
The German word for this is Gleichschaltung
Yes , Yes . The new religion : love your enslavers , the pedophile aristocrats and politicians , the corrupt police and secret services , the propaganda machine sponsored by the government called : the British Broadcasting Corporation , love your corrupt to the core bankers and scammers the ones that gave you perpetual rigging of share prices , Precious metal prices , oil and other commodity prices . A person must be masochistic to follow Camerons' advice . Are the buffoons in charge trying to convert the British populations to Masochism ? Masochism = pleasure in being abused or dominated : a taste for suffering ..
The next thing Cameron will say is this : the suffering is good for the soul , it will make you stronger ...... ah,ah,ah,
Dostoevsky said that if a person get beaten for long enough they start to enjoy it!
he would have loved sado-maso porn. Imagine, he missed the great leap forward of Internet porn. He also missed Auschwitz and fascist dawn.
There's lots for "discussion" here. First there's the trouble with that "internet" thing and all its impossible-to-contain free speech. Then there's the matter of government backdoors into encryption, which cannot be done on a technical or legislative level. Unless you want tourists surrendering their phones at the border and all tech companies withdrawing their products from the UK and gut punching the economy. And thats just two of the many, many insurmountable obstacles in your way.
Good luck with it all Dave, your epic ignorance and naivety helps me sleep soundly at night whenever I worry about the NWO. Because if you are a prime example of their kind, then I look forward to kicking endless sand in your faces.
Come on tin foil conspiracy theorists. You're not fooling anyone. We're already fucked, we just don't acknowledge it as such. And, I should add, there is a reason we seperated from the British. Granted, we're not but better now/ But, there was in fact a reason we escaped tyrrany.
Did we escape tyrany? Wow. I heard about that in school a long time ago, but even then it sounded quite wrong. I think that in reality, the seat of tyrany fond a better home in DC. Planned right from the beginning, or at least opportunisticly co-opted early on, signalled boldly in layout and obelisk.
We did not escape tyrany, we became the tyrants (using "we" very loosely, of course, in the sense others in the world say "they" when they refer to us).
Conspiracy theorist? Probably better than "Coincidence theorist" or "news believer". ymmv.
"And, I should add, there is a reason we seperated from the British"
Yeah, so we could rape the continent by ourselves...
honestly:
by 2017 every Computer-accessible information about every one of the 1,3 billlion chinese citizens will be evaluated by computer
so "daemon" by suarez is implemented "on the other side"
like the a-bomb, computerized sociology is invented,
if we do not implement it the "enemy" does,
if the enemy does it we have to do it also
http://www.n-tv.de/politik/China-will-seine-Buerger-perfekt-steuern-arti...
it is in german, wonder that there is no reflection in more news, maybe it is a fake.
Then, by 2017 they will have caught up with us?
"If it bleeds we can kill it".
power grows out of the barrel of a screwdriver and a pair of pliers
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone."
For too long? You mean since 19 June 1215 when King John signed the Magna Carta and brought into being the rule of law?
"The measures would give the police powers to apply to the high court for an order to limit the “harmful activities” of an extremist individual. The definition of harmful is to include a risk of public disorder, a risk of harassment, alarm or distress"
I am alarmed and distressed by David Camerons words, I hope this law passes quickly so I can see him in the Dock.
When Western Logic meets Howard's End...
Brennus was the first to defy Rome as barbarian chief who coined the phrase : The spoils to the victors the dregs to the vanquished.
It has now become the mantra of the neo-Oligarchy age: now pronounced against their own kind; aka the people whom they are supposed to represent as the elected. No more the ideal of this new age. We are the elected like in Rome. We are the "aeropage", the anointed, and you the plebes! Patricians against plebians! ...and glory to the victors. Back to Brennus the West regresses. What a reversal of mindsets when the elites betray their own civilization !
Too bad, the Enlightenment was just smoke and mirrors !... the unwashed don't deserve the pursuit of happiness. They deserve the streets of Cuidad Jaures or those of Ferguson and ghettoised first world.
The world of democracy now recognises that THREE historical traits are now incompatible : Democracy, nation state and Globalization. This is the trilemma of this new age!
Either we have democracy and nation state or we have SLAVE labour arb : consumer klass kafkaian dystopia of eating the remains of the day off the master's table like a serf in a global Oligarchy run world --with the elected as subservient ideological Popes who serve the cause of Emperors, and bow to their market anointed masters, thanking the Googles, Facebooks and Apples of this world for making this Disneyland type second life, on Internet fed big data environment, our tinseled curtained, ephemeral paradise; all under surveillance of BIG BROTHeR. The crony elected are just papal servants of the Caesars of capitalistic, unfettered domination.
That is the BOTTOM line today : Democracy and nation state are no longer compatible with a global TPP type oligarchical construct, where ALL statists serve the cause of neo-feudalism which by definition ABHORS democracy, bottom up logic and artificial barriers of nation state frontiers.
If anything, the EU experience has proven that over 50 years trying to build a neo-federal structure between nations of a common culture is NEAR impossible. Imagine trying to do the same for a world of 7 billion people of different cultures and mindsets!
So globalisation is IMPOSSIBLE and just smoke and mirrors imposed by occult powerful forces who are not the elected but who pull all the strings behind the tinsel curtain. At least in its current form.
If we look back at History we see that the BW constructs; with limited market integration and limited global cooperation via th monetary system and the UN were a modest form of globalization to avoid the fate of eternal wars; à la Trojan war legacy of WW1 and WW2 ; between east and west and different cultures.
Between modest globalization to avoid eco-Armageddon-- of the runaway form as we see unfurling today as a result of fossil fuel bonanza, as collateral damage of incalculable proportions of our current way of life-- and permanent wars of world Empire mindset-- humanity has to choose.
'Cos the trilemma in its present form is an IMPOSSIBLE frontier. To get out of the fossil fuel conundrum we need a new techological paradigm. Agreed. But it cannot be imposed by ONE Empire on a global scale.
It has to be a compromise between different multilateral power structures; and the West HAS TO REFIND ITS TRUE ROOTS : The legacy of Aristotle!
Not kafkaian despotism. Or we will end like Caesar, the Habsburgs, the Bourbons or the Soviets.
And the price today, thanks to runaway hubris leveraged on Promethean technological prowess, is just unimaginable.
+1
The whinge & whine Poms are like white niggas
From the Urban Dictionary: Tory
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Tory
Tory
(noun) Chiefly British. Term for individual with conservative ideals and/or membership of the Conservative political party. Typically a member of the privileged élite, typified in Parliament by old-Etonians groomed for Oxbridge and further successes in their well-fed, cosseted, self-indulgent lives. Tories (plural) tend to go through life blissfully unaware of the realities most people face. Underneath all the rhetoric policies are aimed at further creation of wealth amongst the affluent and disdain for classes considered 'below' themselves.
David Cameron was the iconic Tory.
Tories
Tories is the colloquial word for supporters of the conservative party in the UK. Historically, the word Tory has also been used for those who support the British monarchy.
It is derived from the middle irish word "tóraidhe", meaning outlaw, robber and pursuit.
Its use is considered abusive, specially if it's used by opponents of the party.
the 'urban dictionary is a communist rag
Okay, how about Wikipedia's definition?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_%28UK%29
The Conservative Party, officially the Conservative and Unionist Party, is a centre-right political party in the United Kingdom. It currently stands as the majority party in the House of Commons, after winning 331 seats in the 2015 general elections.[5] Before the dissolution of the previous parliament, it was the largest single party with 303 Members of Parliament, and governed under a coalition with the Liberal Democrats. At the time of the May 2015 election, it was the largest party in local government with 8,296 councillors and the largest party in the House of Commons with 331 seats of the possible 650.
The Conservative Party was founded in 1834 from the Tory Party—giving rise to the Conservatives' colloquial name of Tories ...
Don't like Wikipedia's definition? Then go register yourself with Wikipedia and contribute to the article content, where you can state your claims as to why it is also a communist rag.
Who cares??
<<David Cameron was the iconic Tory.>>
Camoron wore a Tory suit to the theater. Being a "Tory" is not more profound than that.
Nigel Farage called this big time! No wonder they are trying so desperately to get rid of him!
Time to take the Great out of Great Brtain I'm afraid!
Looks like the Neo Nazi's of our time are finally coming out of the closet. Nazism is a symptom of a disease called Fascism. Stealing a line from Gary Kohls
"Fascism has to have the support of both corporate power and will and military/police power and obedience together or it doesn't happen."
In the thirties Wall Street attempted a coup summarily put down by Smedely Butler. There are no Butlers today. Wall Street / the City / Central Banks are all involved.
Corporate Power (Wall Street/Banks) + Military/Police Power (The State) + Obedience (Dependent Plebs) = Fascism.
TPP = Fascism on Steroids..... World Fascism.
Here, in Canada, we are experiencing the same sorts of facist overtones from our beloved Stephen Harper. Anyone who believes that the relationship between industry, corporations and governments hasn't reached Orwellin proportions is eihter one of them or scared shitless to admit they agree for fear of being "corrected." There is no stopping them now. You might as well get used to smiling and keeping you gaoddamned mouth shut and tow the party line. "War is peace...Slavery is freedom...Ignorance is strength." WTF, by the time they really get a hold, climate change will have fucked things up so bad it won't matter much, anyway. Eat drink and be merry...
Fuck You Cameron. We want your opinion we'll give it to ya!
You're kidding right? Middle England will be wetting themselves to applaud this. The only way it could be better is if they policed every law and made it easy to shop your neighbours in.
It really aggrevates the hell out of me when you guys keep throwing around the word democracy with regards to politics in the US.
We are not a democracy! We are a republic. You punks in Europe want to have, hold, and cherish your "pipe dream" called democracy, then go right ahead and do so, but in the US we are a republic. Rule of law. It must be demanded and those who are put in position to uphold the law and don't, should be removed and punished with severity. We got all the law we needed in this country from the federal gov back in 1776. Everything passed since then has been a mess. And don't come at me with that slavery crap. Slavery would have resolved itself without any laws being passed. And BTW, we are all a bunch of slaves today because of the "anti-slavery" gov. If you don't realize that, go wake up before wasting my time replying to this post. The states should be in charge of anything not enumerated by the Constitution.
Democracy is mob rule. I like the desciption of a democracy being 5 wolves and 4 sheep voting on what's for dinner. In Europe (including the UK) it is even worse. They divide you into 27 voting groups instead of 2. That way it only takes about 12% to make a majority that can tell the other 88% how they should live. Hell, I would much rather have a dictatorship than that nightmare. They have accomplished the same thing in the US by dumbing everyone down (example: using the word democracy.....) to the point that they get us to disagree about everything, like our heritage, our founding, our principles, our freedoms, our rights and liberties. Divide and conquer is an old strategy. And it works best on the stupid and ignorant.
You can't fix stupid but don't be wilfully ignorant.
I thought the U.S. was the Kenyan Dreams of My Father?
In the Kenyan's dreams it is. There are large portions of the US that would take exception to his dreams. He is just being a tool to be used by those that think like Cameron talks. You can bet none of the mouth pieces are willing to pay the price for their dreams. When they talk like this, it means they are confindent that they are surrounded by enough lackey thugs with guns to insolate them from the consequences of their own "violent" speech.
Only an insect would sell out his people in such a pathetic self serving manner! Sad deal! Great Britain was a major asset to the world at one time!
The police can already prohibit people from protesting and can do so without them being convicted of any criminal activity
WELL DONE DAVID
THAT'S WHY WE LOVE YOU SO MUCH
TIME TO END RADICAL AND EXTREME ISLAMIC BEHAVIOUR IN THE LAND OF HEAVEN
YEAH DAVID ... AND BE SURE TO KEEP THOSE BORDERS WIDE OPEN! THEN EVERYBODY CAN LOVE US TOO!
Does loving Hillary count as loving you David? (Just wanna make sure I'm covered)
tia.
2 Peas!
Watch...these guys in power are getting really, really close to the line that, once crossed, creates a tipping point.
They are getting bolder, they must smell victory...getting sloppy though, careful there David, you want to keep the fascism under wraps for now.
How far will they go to up the ante? How far will we LET them go?
I take it "the law" applies to The City and the British Members of Parliament as well?
What? No? it doesn't? Who Cooda Node.
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Progressives/Commuists always revere and idolize the State. It is the natural outcome of generational Fabian indoctrination. This mindset is already in America. Cameron's comment is a virulent form of political correctness.
Execution for falling asleep at a speech by the Dear Leader is the ultimate punishment for lack of State-love.
'Conservatives/Fascists always revere and idolize the State...'
Here's a big heads-up: Although you are clearly unaware of it, your selective accentuation of only one half of an inseparable political duality indicates that you are just as much a statist as the stereotypes you accuse; unaware that your own perspective ultimately leads to the same result by merely alternative means.
Understand the real problem. This false dichotomy --which you have clearly bought into-- is precisely the means by which the power elite have contrived to simulate a democracy, while continuously expanding their own goals toward total political control.
Hey, America: When will they come to your door; when will the knock on your door come and the police power of the State take you and your property and your freedom? Now they flood your life with multiculturalism, with Third World cultural attacks, and with the seizure of your institutions…from universities to healthcare and most critically of all, your currency.
Cameron’s warning is that PC multiculturalism is the new “democracy” -- the new world order -- and you’d better be silent when they come for your country and your identity. The breakdown of American and European culture is to precede the complete takeover of nation states, sovereignty, private property, and every shred of liberty. Make no mistake, it is coming; perhaps it starts with the weaklings in Britain and then it comes to you.
Somewhere along the way you must stop them. Wait much longer and it will be much harder. They are pitting you, the lone individual, against ethnic groups who strongly identify with race.
PC World : Latinas in the Field |Taki Magazine
by David Cole May 12, 2015
It took me a while to understand why some of today’s leading generals in the war to enforce politically correct speech and behavior codes are Latinas. Jewish organizations were the foundation-builders of PC nonsense, and white feminists and black activists have in many cases one-upped the founders with their skill and enthusiasm for banning “offensive” speech and expression.
Gay and lesbians have also had a good run with the ball (wait…is that phrase transphobic?).
But growing up in L.A. in the ‘80s I never knew a politically active Mexican, and damned if I wasn’t surrounded by Mexicans. Hell, to this day I still don’t know whether to say “Hispanic,” “Latino,” or (in Edward James Olmos voice) “Chicano.” I was never sufficiently lectured and browbeaten on that issue.
So it’s with great interest that I’ve been monitoring the rise of the young Latina PC police. My take on the newfound prominence of Latinas in the field is that they share with Jews the ability to be many victims at once, and, therefore, to have multiple ways in which to be offended. Just as a Jew can find identity through religion, ethnicity, race, or nationality (Israel), Latinas have the female thing, the ethnic thing, the racial thing, and the nationalism thing. Plus, many of them declare not just Latina identity, but Native American too, and that’s a peach of a thing to claim these days (hell, it can even get a white woman elected senator).
“These people see themselves as being “way above us.”” …
http://takimag.com/article/latinas_in_the_field_david_cole/print#axzz3ZvNv4LaS
They can think or say whatever they like...
As long as my bathroom gets cleaned.
There is no one to blame but the citizens. Americans don't care anymore about this shit than the Brits. The last mass protests were marxist inspired during the 1960's.
The citizens depend on an honest media. The pearl harbor attack in this ongoing destruction of the West was the pre-emptive takeover of the media.
Jonathon Turley is one of America's top Constitutional and Military law experts. He is the second most cited law professor in the country and he has said...
"It is distressing to see both England and the United States slipping into such authoritarian constructs."
"They have created a type of legal shape shifting charge where they could claim either espionage or terrorism- effectively admitting that such classifications are now entirely arbitrary."
When experts of this caliber are worried then so should we. Turley is not some tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist.
This is the new 'witch hunt' of the 21st century - you are guilty and must prove yourself innocent with a jury of government sycophants.
The bloody pillock David Cameron can say anything he wants, in fact I invite him to repeat his words because THAT reality will never fucking happen. He can dream and jerk off to the idea of it all he wants, but guess what? It won't ever fucking happen. And if he or any of his cronies think they'd like to try to force it, he will be in for the god damn beating of his life. Then he will learn not to FUCK with us.
I'm at a total loss as to what gives you such confidence.
It is somewhat disconcerting to me to see Cameron's words. I think they are designed to tug at the back of our mind and to mock Christians, Jews, Muslims and the like.
Are we not told that we are not only to obey God's laws, but to love him above all else as well?
We are told that we MUST love the state. We are told that we MUST love God. And yet, we are told that we have free will, but only those who obey the laws and love God will be saved. If we do not love something or someone with our free will, but are instead commanded to love, it is then love?
Something to ponder and appropriate for these times.
These are not mocking words. They are warnings from the messenger sent by the international bankers that police power is on the way, not for normal law breakers, but for those individuals who would oppose the State.
Cameron’s meaning can be identified by the words of Leon Trotsky:
“In a country where the sole employer is the State, opposition means death by slow starvation. The old principle: who does not work shall not eat, has been replaced by a new one: who does not obey shall not eat.”
? Leon Trotsky
Cameron is a nonentity who was catapulted into the Tory leadership after just a few years working in a PR agency. Jewish advisors (read international bankers) are glued to his elbows, he himself is part Jewish and has described the Tory Party as the Torah Party given the extent of Jewish "involvement".
Whose god?
Mine thinks the Old Testament was written by an imposter.
My god never wrote a thing. In fact, the most He ever wrote was doodling in the sand as an expression of His boredom at being asked stupid questions.
Wir lieben dick fuhrer Cameron, Hail!
Today's governments bring to mind a scene from the movie 'Mars Attacks' where the aliens are broadcasting over loud speakers 'do not be afraid, we are your friends' as they kill everyone in sight. Ack-Ack.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_packet
It's the Programs!
Orwell would have been astounded NOT flattered... And that is the difference.
cut the MFs head off and serve it on a short pike on traitors gate to be urinated on by every male in Britain!
In Washington D.C. , Tel Aviv and Riyadh "rinse and repeat"
That should fix it!
Some music to go along with Cameron's prophetic statement.
Brought to you by the professional journalists at Reuters news that aid the "all seeing Eye"!
Tiocfaidh ar la, bitchez...
a united Ireland with no Irish people
'You must love big brother?' Kinda fits in with their pedo meme!
What he actually said-
“For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone. It’s often meant we have stood neutral between different values. And that’s helped foster a narrative of extremism and grievance. This government will conclusively turn the page on this failed approach. As the party of one nation, we will govern as one nation and bring our country together. That means actively promoting certain values. Freedom of speech. Freedom of worship. Democracy. The rule of law. Equal rights regardless of race, gender or sexuality. We must say to our citizens: this is what defines us as a society.”
This is more accurate. That being said, he's still gonna stick a steroid-filled hypodermic in the police state neck.
That means actively promoting certain values. Freedom of speech. Freedom of worship. Democracy. The rule of law. Equal rights regardless of race, gender or sexuality. We must say to our citizens: this is what defines us as a society.”
LOL - so long as it is approved by us.
You're not wrong.
"Rule of law". What the FUCK is that?
The purpose is the same: To clamp down on Enemies Of The People.
Enemies Of The People? You mean the Bankers, Politicians, and Corporate leaders? Funny. That's not the message I get.
The law is going to be they list a bunch of things they define as "British Values" and if you don't enthusiastically support those values they can lock you up.
For example one of them will be religious tolerance and they'll use that to lock up people who criticize Islam.
It's genuine gulag stuff disguised with fluffy words.
ZWO one world rule. Dissenters not desired.
Guess which tribe will be the major beneficiary of such restrictions on free speech? Hint: They've already hit the jackpot with 'HATE!!' legislation.
With kudos to bshirley1968 posting below.
This is why the Constitution is so important.
The Constitution should not be a living document.
The “living document” argument implies that human nature changes over time; essentially for the better. That we are more civilized now than “before” and thus the essence of our souls is somehow improved to where intolerance becomes tolerance becomes acceptance.
When “laws” begin to chafe against majority cultural norms in support of minority cultural or individual idiosyncrasies; societies hyphenate. When those hyphenated groups demand equal representation as eccentricities as moral equivalents and the “unhyphenated” (the previous cultural norm) and positioned as oppressors and victimizer; by tortured wordsmithing, things degenerate back to human nature.
Then, democracy becomes the tyranny of democracy by the minorities; which form de facto political entities and seek majority representation either in law or apportionment as retribution for perceived past injustices.
At this point the prediction that, James Madison, forecast, “Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government”, becomes fact.
And so here we are.
Kill the idea that the Constitution is a living document.
"Kill the idea that the Constitution is a living document".
Kudos.
When human nature 'changes' it can only be for the better. Problem is, human nature, absorbed by FEAR of the unknown, is incapable of change in this state of FEAR....
First the fear and then the sense of loss.
When people have nothing to lose …….
They lose it!
It takes a lot to get the great British public off their sofas. However, once prompted into action, they can be extremely tenacious. I think Cameron is making a big mistake. He really thinks he has the power. He is going to find out the hard way, that he is a merlely a misguided nonentity with delusions of grandeur.The 99% is going to pull down tghe gates to Westminster and take back the power.
I hope you're right but I doubt it. Look at the crap the British public have put up with over the last fifty years with scarcely a peep of protest.
You win an election and it goes to your head.
Who else rules by decree?
RIP Magna Carta
Long Live Norsefire (INGSOC?)!!!
The press done it all for him, all the groundwork laid and hate mongering complete...and the cherry on top? They pay a $20 monthly license fee to be brainwashed. Nudge theory, political spin, 24 hr affective conditioning, doublethink and the class politics, repressed nationalism, monopolising of the press, us and them bankster dominated surveillance state, pigs at the motherfucking trough.
Back in the job 10 minutes the classy cunt can help himself spewing bile. Not a day gone by that i haven't had a pop at this slimey 2 bob prick.
The NO vote in Scotland quickly followed by a City of London victory last week is so so depressing.
FUCK the UK
Back in the job 10 minutes the classy cunt can help himself spewing bile. Not a day gone by that i haven't had a pop at this slimey 2 bob prick. The NO vote in Scotland quickly followed by a City of London victory last week is so so depressing. FUCK the UK
You can say that again.
OK, Thanks
Wall Street set the rules way back when 'kill' or 'be killed' became the operating ethos of money whores everywhere. David Cameron is the Whore of Babylon's chief money whore mouthpiece. Queen Elizabeth II is the most disgusting money whore this World has ever had the misfortune of knowing, and if David Cameron does not abide by her dictates he will be fed to the lions as she finds someone who will abide by her dictates. Clearly, it's time for the UK to oust the House of Windsor from the UK Welfare rolls and put them in the factories to clean the floors and toilets like good public servants should. Queen Elizabeth II abrogated her responsibility to the people of England via greed and hubris. The people of the United Kingdom need to wrap their heads around the concept of payback before Queen Elizabeth, and her degenerate progeny, get away with genocide of the financial kind.
You MUST love big brother? I dont think he understands what love is.
Kind of telling when you think about it. This cat has lost his mind. Another clue that governments have turned into religious cults. Welcome to the dark times. Ruled by people that dont know love.
You MUST love big brother? I dont think he understands what love is.
Kind of telling when you think about it. This cat has lost his mind. Another clue that governments have turned into religious cults. Welcome to the dark times. Ruled by people that dont know love.
"Do as I say, not as I do"---motto of Pinko Fascist Commies the world over...'Obey' the law? Whoever voted for this dreg should be hung for treason by any Freedom Loving Brit....
I never expected to observe true evil in action.
This appears to qualify.
2 + 2 = 5
Smile while we suck your brains out.
Edit - the quote in the article is not quite in context - so my above comment is not appropriate. The whole thing shows how easily words and situations can be skewed.
Tolerance does not extend to those who wish you harm.
The most resistance to the EU comes from England so England will be first into the full 1984 style gulag.
It seems the banking mafia are starting to feel they need a complete lock down.
Big Spoonface
I decline the invitation. Instead, I will keep these words from the first Organic Law of The United States of America in mind:
"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness—That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles and organizing its Powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.