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Caught On Tape: Unequal Opportunity Policing In America

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Same laws, same gun, same street. What is the difference between these two Americans walking with an AR-15?

 

 

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Sat, 05/16/2015 - 18:04 | 6101374 kaiserhoff
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Hold that thought, and work on affirmative action for a while.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 18:13 | 6101398 Hamsterfist
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Hold this.

 

If you go around spouting off about how oppressive the government is, yet want to deny the same rights you champion to others, based on things you don't like.  Well, that doesn't really make you a champion of liberty anymore, does it?  It makes you a sniveling little pussy who wants the cops to protect you from the big bad black dude.  It's simply unamerican to try and justify this, no matter how many crimes blacks commit, how dangerous cops have it and it reeks of true tyranny.  To bad you are incapable of seeing the huge whole in logic, unless of course you are a communist.  Which of course would be reflected in your "I get muh rights, while others aren't entitled to theirs" opinion.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 18:31 | 6101445 kaiserhoff
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I'm prejudiced against rattle snakes too, but what does that stage managed clip have to do with denying anyone equal rights?

I think I'll keep the prejudices that are useful for survival and reflect real world experience.

All any Libertarian ever asks for is a level playing field..., and a lot less government.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 18:47 | 6101484 Hamsterfist
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To be fair, I was upset by the cop asking the white dude questions too.  A level playing field though presupposes both being treated the same, no matter what others of a similar skin color do.  It's irrelevant that "blacks commit more violent crimes".  It changes nothing for this one person, legally walking done the street, and getting forced to the ground.  You have to admit, there is a little assumed guilty before innocent going on here, and it is obviously stemming from him being black.  

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 10:00 | 6102694 usednabused
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Thats what Libertarians want right? A level playing field... Just for them and fuck everyone else right? Its obvious as hell in your postings that thats your attitude. But then, thats the attitude of most libertarians, so you're nothing special.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 19:27 | 6101576 Monty Burns
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"So the 2nd Amendment is only for whites?  "

If I had my way, yes.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 23:24 | 6102042 Nimby
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Blacks are more likely to be killed by other blacks.  You want to get rid of the thugs and keep the DMV and Social Service workers, give the latter a gun.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 16:48 | 6101145 A Lunatic
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This arrest was conducted completely inappropriately. He was not properly maced, tazed, kicked about the head and groin areas or shot and left to die while cuffed. Fucking pathetic and extremely unprofessional. These cops should be removed from duty asap......

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:02 | 6101180 kowalli
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you know, they will be removed

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 16:54 | 6101161 Soul Glow
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Sat, 05/16/2015 - 16:55 | 6101163 Klemens
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Every American Citizen has the Right of free and unrestricted travel in this Nation.

http://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2015/05/living-free-without-permission...

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 16:58 | 6101171 fattail
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That's the price for living in a fascist police state like Oregon.  Starting July 1 Kansas will no longer require a permit to conceal and carry.  No need to test to see if your constitutional rights are observed by the State.  You can just conceal your firearm and enforce it when needed.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:01 | 6101177 OneTinTrooper
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This won't happen in real life (wen all sheet comes loose).  Martial law will be called.  So you can forget your open carry.  And terrorists will be on the loose so they will have exigent circumstances to roll through your home. The best option is a secure hiding place below a trap door in the home of a member of the ruling party.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:03 | 6101182 dariomilano
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two different police officers. the first one was not a jerk

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:08 | 6101200 SubjectivObject
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So I should interpret there were a .... thousand .... jerks in the second set?

They all seemed to be on the same page witht the action.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:08 | 6101195 rsi1
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maybe racism, but it is certainly a different cop, a different street and a different place. the cop cars look different, the uniform, everything.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:15 | 6101217 OneTinTrooper
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Good point.  We also don't know what call came in to prompt police response.  Suppose someone call in that the weapon was swung in their direction and called 911, would that change things?

Youtube is the absolute worst form of journalism because there is no context provided.  

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:32 | 6101278 Miles Ahead
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Video feed with audio, unedited, providing "as it happened" experience, is the absolute worse form of journalism???  Really?  WTF...

You want context?  What the eff did you major in... Philosophy?  Oh.  Journalism. You gonna believe context or your lyin' eyes? lol...  You want context.  You were damn near there, and you rather have context.  Look, send the video to CNN and ask them to give you some sub-titles, commentary, analysis.  That should do the trick.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 18:33 | 6101451 OneTinTrooper
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You have been bumped from the jury by the defense.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 23:17 | 6102037 Nimby
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How many interactions did the white guy have with the cops before the one that they posted?  What about the black guy?

No context, asshole. 

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:11 | 6101210 One of these is...
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That was pretty brave of the black dude. He seemed to be giving them some lip too.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:25 | 6101258 rum_runner
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Lip... yeah.. simply stating he doesn't consent to an illegal search is lip.  This country..

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:14 | 6101220 ComeAndTakeIt
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This would be racist if blacks didn't commit such a large percentage of violent crimes in the US, especially when they're such a minority of the population. 

I also posture up pretty defensively any time I cross paths with a species of animal well known and documented to attack. Can't blame the cops for doing the same. 

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 18:02 | 6101367 Hamsterfist
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2nd Amendment

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.  Unless you are black, in which case, be prepared to get blown the fuck out because you guys do all the crimes and stuff.  Also, black guys with guns are way scarier then white guys with guns.  

 

Peace Out - 

 

TJ

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 01:47 | 6102246 ComeAndTakeIt
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Did these cops shoot this guy? Did they illegally confiscate his firearm? Was he denied his 2nd amendment right in any way? I don't know, but I'm willing to bet no on all three of those.

They had to respond to a call about a young black male with cornrows carrying a long gun down the street and go make sure he wasnt inteding to open fire on people. If you had to go respond to that situation, would you really bet your life on that turning out to be a pro 2nd amedment activist just out excersizing his rights? You really like those odds?

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 18:50 | 6101489 Clowns on Acid
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Obvious truth.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:14 | 6101222 A Lunatic
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Only a retard would give the cops enough credit to intentionally bait them......

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:18 | 6101233 OneTinTrooper
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I consider people that climb Everest a bit odd too.  But that does not mean they are not intelligent.  They are just crazy (from most people's perspective).

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:23 | 6101251 A Lunatic
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To potentially become a self made martyr is stupid. You have no idea who called the cops or what sort of story the cops heard by some frantic, rabid anti gunner or crazy ass Grannny......

You have a right to have sex with your wife too, but if you are doing it in public view you will be contacted by authorities.....

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 08:07 | 6102547 loonyleft
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you don't have a right to have sex with your wife in public. you do have a right to carry a gun in public. Big difference, bad analogy. Try again. 

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:17 | 6101227 Thick Willy
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Why are half-white "black" guys who grow up in rich, liberal, white areas always such racists and troublemakers?

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:20 | 6101239 OneTinTrooper
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The moral of the story is that you shouldn't fuck around with police officers.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:23 | 6101252 Thick Willy
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Should go well for you.  Report back your results.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 21:23 | 6101852 StychoKiller
Sat, 05/16/2015 - 17:38 | 6101302 Thick Willy
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https://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/2012/04/29/eightyear-old-whi...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christophe...

http://beforeitsnews.com/tea-party/2015/04/black-judge-shames-white-vict...

https://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/2013/04/10/another-hate-robb...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2845617/Woman-raped-burned-dies-...

I could literally go on forever.  The many examples of black savagery and racially targeted hate crimes against whites are well documented....online, for those who care to see the truth.  To say nothing of the genocide of whites in Africa.  You won't see any of this in the national media.  Seems they don't care to make sure EVERYONE knows when these things happen, only when some 7 foot tall 350 pound black thug gets shot after smashing a white cops facial bones to dust.

I'm bored of this thread.  My sincere hope is that all the white SJWs/liberals hang out in black/immigrant neighborhoods and try to befriend them.  You'll be seeing things my way soon enough, if you survive.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 18:05 | 6101379 q99x2
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White cops are afraid of black men with cameras and not as much afraid of white guys with cameras.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 18:42 | 6101475 OneTinTrooper
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Put the white dude on the same street with the same demeanor, and the same 911 calls (we can't assume there weren't any)  and the same shit goes down.

Likewise put the black dude in the same parking lot and same demeanor of white dude and in all likelihood there is no difference

as a previous poster stated --- this don't mean jack shit

 

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 18:21 | 6101403 Rikeska
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Alright Tylers I have never said this before and kind of scoff when others do, HOWEVER...

DO YOU WANT TO LOSE ALL CREDIBILITY ON THIS SITE?  WHY WOULD YOU POST SUCH RIDICULOUS CRAP?

I USED TO DIRECT PEOPLE HERE AS AN ALTERNATE SOURCE FOR ACTUAL USEFUL VETTED INFORMATION ABOUT VARIOUS SUBJECTS.  

#CRACKA PLEASE!

IT'S THE LUCK OF THE DRAW.  UNCLE CRACKER CAUGHT ONE OF THE FEW COPS WITH TESTICLES AND A BRAIN AND HOMES CAUGHT THE AVERAGE FAT FUCK RETARD.

FUCK ME RUNNING.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 18:22 | 6101430 Dasa Slooofoot
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WHY WOULD YOU POST SUCH RIDICULOUS CRAP?

Same reason why Buzzfeed, yahoo, huffcompost and every other site does...

 

for cheap clicks.  

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 19:06 | 6101535 random999
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well not only that. I too would be more aware of a black guy with a AR15 than 2 white guys with AR15.

I do that because of my earlier experiences in life. Maybe I've been unlucky with blacks and arabs, maybe... 
But I'm trusting my experiences and judgement more than other peoples so far empty words.

Personally I'm not that stubborn. Prove me wrong and I will accept it.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 18:20 | 6101422 orangegeek
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Bit of a difference in neighborhoods - tends to be reflected in the cops' disposition.

 

Why the FUCK would someone bait a person who is carrying a loaded weapon with the authority to use it to make some shitbag youtube video?

 

Do it some MOAR assholes - hopefully you'll get shot dead next time.

 

BTW, if the cops leave your shitbag hood, it's a war zone in minutes - think about that next time you bait cops.  FUCKING RACE HUSTLER SHITBAGS!!!!

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 18:26 | 6101438 Jeepers Creepers
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I hate most LEO and (even though I come from a cop family)  but the biggest factor of the entire experiment was DIFFERENT COPS!

 

Also, I'm an "extremist" when it comes to protecting our 2nd Amnedment rights, but walking around with an AR strapped to your back is an absolute gift to the gun grabbers. 

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 19:50 | 6101639 10mm
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Well stated Jeepers.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 08:11 | 6102554 loonyleft
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not really an 'extremist' when you advocate gun control. Because in your mind, it's OK to carry whatever you have, but walking around with an AR strapped to your back is wrong because??? Cutting to the chase, you think that people shouldn't carry an AR in public. That sounds like gun control to me. 

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 18:52 | 6101495 czarangelus
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The Jews must just be laughing and laughing about getting America's two oldest colonial ethnic groups - British and Afro-Americans - at each others' throats through years of policies designed to accomplish just that.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 19:01 | 6101523 22winmag
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My thoughts exactly.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 19:21 | 6101561 Monty Burns
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It's more a case that they want to destroy the ethnic cohesion of White America and blacks are just useful tools. They're not interested in black v white hostility in itself.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 19:25 | 6101572 Seek_Truth
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Divide and conquer 101:

It doesn't matter which way the timbers fall- the point is that they won't bind together.

Divide on race, religion, philosophy, intelligence, education, appearance, culture, politics, employment, etc.

"As long as there is division , mission accomplished." - TPTB

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 18:56 | 6101507 22winmag
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Instant lawsuit. No wonder cities are going broke.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 19:11 | 6101548 prmths2
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Obviously not the same cop, not even the same department (sheriff vs. police).

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 19:17 | 6101554 Monty Burns
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Makes perfect sense. Young black men commit violent crime at a rate 15 times higher than whites. If it were my neighborhood that's exactly what I'd hope the cops would do.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:03 | 6103282 optimator
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Animal control officers are also discrininatory, when approaching a strange Pit Bull they act differntly than when approaching a French Poodle.  

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 19:18 | 6101556 TheAntiProgressive
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Freedom and Liberty and the rights under the Constitution need to be color blind.  The treatment of the second guy was fundamentally un-Constitional.  If we are to beat these plutocrats we must ALL claim the Constitution and the Rights therin, Black, White, Latin, Asian it does not matter skin color.  An assault on any like this, is fundamentally an assault on all, it is just a matter of timing.  First they came for.......

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 19:27 | 6101574 loregnum
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If black people don't want this different treatment then get all those blacks who are in gangs and commit violent crimes for the street cred to stop. It is a FACT that there is a disproportionate amount of black criminals among the black population than there are whites among the white population. To try and act like this isn't a reality shows how pathetic people are and how they have an agenda.

Was it white thugs who almost beat that truck owner to death in Baltimore? Nope. Is it white people who are doing all the rioting in these cities after the media pumped up cases? Nope.

I am so sick and tired of how people act like all the country's black people are just minding their own business acting all peaceful and nice to everyone and it is just these evil white racist cops looking to mess them up. You'd think the way the media and the race baiters go on about it that all the country's black people are just Amish folk tending to their fields and turning the other cheek. What's even better is it is usually BLACK ON BLACK CRIME that gets blacks in trouble yet hey, we'll ignore that as well. Oh wait, it is whitey that causes them to fuck with each other. I forgot that everything si the fault of the white man and if not for the white man then blacks would be living in peace and harmony with one another. 

I like how they had the black guy in the video all dredded up and trying to look a bit sketchy since he has his pants hanging low. They couldn't have tried it with a black guy that has a nice hair cut and dressed nicely like the white guy was? Nope, since that may have had a different outcome and we can't ever have that! On the other hand, I am sure they couldn't have had a white guy with a bald head (or long unkept hair) and all tatted up carrying the gun and see. Nah. Another thing, it's DIFFERENT COPS. Who is to say each guy wouldn't have had the same result with the same cop?

Race baiting pieces of shit.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 19:34 | 6101593 Captain Benny
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Hey hey hey, lets keep this in perspective and not racial.

 

This video takes place in Washoe County NV.

Washoe County recently got a new Sheriff, Chuck Allen, who is former Nevada Highway Patrol.  He actually supports legal open carry unlike the Sheriff who was running the department at the time when the video of the black guy was filmed.

This is not about race! Stop race baiting!

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 23:11 | 6102033 Nimby
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If it is in Nevada then why does the dude with the speech impediment in the beginning say they are in Oregon?

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 00:59 | 6102191 Captain Benny
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Because you were lied too.  These were different streets.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 19:37 | 6101601 orez65
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Meanwhile the banks and the Federal Reserve are stealing us to the poor house.

You dumb sh.ts!!

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 19:51 | 6101641 Ginsengbull
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The white dude had it on his back.

 

The person of color has it slung by his side.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 20:38 | 6101753 Dixie Flatline
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I'm ignoring the race aspect of this.  While it may be legal to walk around with an AR, an AK, a Barrett 82A1 CQ 50 BMG, it just doesn't make sense in a city.  You are asking to be harassed by every police officer, and may even be tracked and ambushed/assassinated by a thug loooking for better hardware.  I'm all for conceal carry and open carry to a point, but you lost tactical advantage when you announce to the world around you that you are armed.

Having said that, I will not travel into the city without 90+rounds and a carbine in my vehicle. I will only park in secure areas when doing so.  I don't even like obvious tactical everyday bags/wallets/clothing.  It just screams "kill me first" if you are a bad guy.  All those jackets, shirts and hats with velcro for nametapes are just stupid.  Tactical backpacks with molle webbing screams "ambush me and you will score a motherlode."

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 20:52 | 6101788 Peter Pan
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Good luck to you in America whether you are carrying a gun or not.

 

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 20:53 | 6101790 Three Card Monte
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What kind of BS tittle is this?  Same street really?  Notice the first clip the officer is driving a black car and when he opens the door you can see the letters POL (police ) also wering black uniform.  The second clip different street entirely, looks somewhat getto, and the officers are driving white vehicles that say Sheriff and wearing green uniforms.  This means this is probably not even in the same city!  

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 20:58 | 6101800 foghorn leghorn
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Would you please stop fanning the flames of hatred towards whites. If you go to any city in America its the other way around. Just last week I saw gang bangers playing loud music, drag racing, smoking all kinds of drugs and doing 360's in the parking lot of Pathmark. Absolutely nothing was done by the police and it was allowed to go on all night. The whole entire parking lot and its surrounding area was filled with thugs who drag raced only 2 blocks from the police station. Meanwhile white people get pulled over for not wearing a seat belt and sometimes the officers are very violent over the situation. So when I see stuff like this I always point it out for what it really is. Leftist propaganda against white people.

I do understand why Russia does it I mean they are technically at war with us. So fannig the flames is the best way to divide our nation. The whole entire world knows that the melting pot is smelting so it won't take much to make it boil over. There has never been a time or place in history where diverse nationalities of every variety and kind has lived well together. This is what the tower of Babel in the bible was referring to and even today in Israel which claims to be the most open society in the world practices old fashioned segregation and aprtheid. Its nothing but a ruse because one group must totally obey the other because if they don't there will always be violence.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 21:06 | 6101815 rejected
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" What is the difference between these two Americans walking with an AR-15?"

Different cop.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 21:08 | 6101818 Consuelo
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The cops do fairly well in controlled environments with plenty of back-up.    Chaotic environments where shit is moving fast and asymetrical and you sorta don't know when it's gonna be 'up-jumps-the-Devil'...?  I have my reservations -

 

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 21:20 | 6101845 Omega_Man
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after the crash will be time for open carry

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 21:21 | 6101849 Counterpunch
Sat, 05/16/2015 - 21:39 | 6101880 monad
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It would be a fair test if it was a black cop. A black cop would do the same as this white cop because black men in America do a majority of violent crimes. Gang culture, bitchez. How many races are there in America? Was that a Korean boy? So many Chinese & Vietnamese everywhere, why wasn't this an asian cop facing a hassidic jew with an M60 & a stack of ammo boxes?

All this State sponsored Holder incendiary bullshit is just bullshit. Here is how it is: we get along. You think you've special rights because of your race, 20+ races who don't cheat are going to drop on you. Good bye. Chow. Bien venidos. Sayanara. Aloha. Ariba de larieta. Bitchez

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 22:15 | 6101937 jack stephan
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They shoot white, black, polkadot, viridian chromic oxiders, nigerian lesbian eskimos,martians, chupacabras, the woiks, ahhhh current life and brazilesque days and times.

 

Like moe szyzlak--like my dad always said...eventually everyone gets shot.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 23:06 | 6102023 Nimby
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Same same same, huh?  One looked to be "Albany City" police, the other, a sheriff.  It might be the same "street", but it wasn't the same spot.  Maybe the white guy was walking faster.
Also, the cracker had it slung 2-point across his back, whereas the brother looks to have had it slung single point, making it instantly accessible.

Now, if the city and the sheriff patrol the same streets, the videograpers can't control that, BUT they can control the manner in which the two subjects carried, and they chose to have them carry in different manners.

It would be nice if they didn't play games like that.  Plus, we have no idea how long it took to elicit a response from the po-po.  Did the white guy get a "friendly" "can I see your ID" after 2 blocks, whereas the black guy went 20 blocks before scaring a racist white progressive anti-gun woman?

We'll never know. 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 01:05 | 6102201 Captain Benny
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Totally different streets.  Different cities.  Different times.  Fraud post.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 23:13 | 6102025 TruthBeforeAll
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There is a great lesson for the black community here. It is this. If you do what a cop says, you generally won't get shot. Even if you are carrying an AR-15. See how that works. And yes, I do agree the difference is dramatic, but it's also two different cops. And, if I recall, there was a white dude (veteran) who got gunned down by cops at a Walmart in Las Vegas while legally carrying.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 01:35 | 6102238 Captain Benny
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It was at a Costco store parking lot.  They executed Erik Scott.

 

http://www.8newsnow.com/category/192532/costco-shooting

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 23:26 | 6102045 Magooo
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Why blacks in the US don't shoot down cops by the dozens is beyond me.  

 

Where are the the racist fuckwits who usually pollute these forums now?

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 00:46 | 6102177 Prideful Sinner
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Honestly that's such an ignorant statement its hard to respond but let's try...

  1. If you shoot someone in cold blood (even if its a protest) you're going to go to jail.
  2. If you're shooting someone in cold blood who hasn't done anything wrong aren't you being just as bad as the people you're compaining about?
  3. You have no idea if the cop you're shooting is part of the actual problem. The total number of violent arrests and the number of blacks killed by cops is actually pretty low. The total number of blacks killed by police averages about 110 a year. Many of those are blacks that are actively shooting at cops. I think I read the unarmed number being 12-14 a year total so the cops that you're calling for the death of are likely innocent.
  4. By promoting violence against police you're going to bring more violence in both directions
  5. You're promoting a stereotype that blacks are more violent and should be.
Sun, 05/17/2015 - 04:07 | 6102349 honestann
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Someone who has a full time job stealing his paycheck from people for going out every day and abusing human beings cannot possibly be innocent.  Get that into your thick skull.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 04:49 | 6102374 seminal1
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Like was said above: If black people don't want this different treatment then get all those blacks who are in gangs and commit violent crimes for the street cred need to stop. It is a FACT that there is a disproportionate amount of black criminals among the black population than there are whites among the white population. To try and act like this isn't a reality shows how pathetic people are and how they have an agenda.

Get that through your thick libtard skull. 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 05:22 | 6102407 inorganic
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You totally miss the consequences of the stupid approach you attempt to justify.  The following is so trivial, only a moron (or someone who refuses to think) can fail to understand.

#1: regular folks tend to follow laws and respond to threats.

#2: criminals tend not to follow laws or respond to threats.

#3: when (blatantly and necessarily unconstitutional) laws are made against "bearing arms", regular folks tend to obey those invalid, unconstitutional laws and the threats attached.

#4: criminals keep their guns, and in fact remove identifying any features they can.

#5: therefore, when criminals try harm or steal-from regular folks, most of those regular folks are not prepared to defend themselves (that is, kill the criminal in self-defense).

#6: the natural consequence of this is obvious.  the criminals are vastly bolder and more successful than if everyone in the entire population (who wanted to) was armed.

#7: then morons like you turn around and evade the reasons, and pretend we should treat ALL black people badly, and ALL white people less badly... completely independent of whether the individuals involved are good, bad, innocent, guilty, aggressive or meek.

The solution is for everyone (who desires) to arm themselves.  And when they see someone harming or stealing... blow their brains out.  You will find, in very short order, that the pile of dead scumbags grows as the number of violent crimes fall.

Incidentally, where statistics are collected, that is always what happens!

The statistics you quote are true but entirely irrelevant.  If almost everyone is armed, those who behave in violent ways will stop, either because they will be dead, or because they realize their behavior is much too dangerous to them.

BTW, if you read many of her posts, you'd realize honestann is most definitely no liberal (or conservative).

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 11:14 | 6102844 sessinpo
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Magooo     Why blacks in the US don't shoot down cops by the dozens is beyond me.  

Where are the the racist fuckwits who usually pollute these forums now?

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No actually the real danger for the police is that they act in cohesion with the Federal government against the populace as a whole.

Let me put it to you this way. On some Saturday night, I don't go out in the poorest neighborhood that is either black or white. It is unfortunate that a large percentage of these hoods are dominated by black people. There are low lifes in all ethnicities. Some ethnicities blame others for it and promote that life. Other ethnicities fight against it the "real" hard way, work and education.

Has it occurred to you that you are the racist fuckwit that pollutes this forum?

But then again, we know why your picked your name and avatar. You want to depict the bumbling idiotic white guy. And just that you know, I am a non white, minority.

Sat, 05/16/2015 - 23:46 | 6102073 Polymarkos
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OVERREACT! Terror MUST be maintained.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 00:28 | 6102149 Equalizer
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Its hard to believe as an Australian that you can even walk down a street openly with a gun like this, what is wrong with you Americans FFS?

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 03:24 | 6102315 DIGrif
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When YOUR government is oppressing you in the near future. THEN you might understand.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 11:03 | 6102821 sessinpo
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Equalizer  Its hard to believe as an Australian that you can even walk down a street openly with a gun like this, what is wrong with you Americans FFS?

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Personally, I think just being from Australia is enough for a swat team and instant execution. Australians are dangerous enough. One might have an hidden shank and stab you if you pass by. (SARCASM)

I hope you get my point. Anyone can redraw the line as to what is acceptable. I just redrew that line to make YOU unacceptable. Don't like it do you?

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 11:07 | 6102839 newworldorder
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Lets admit that the US and Aaustralia have different views on gun control Let's also admin that Australia and the US  are socially different countries. 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 00:38 | 6102166 Prideful Sinner
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I'm guessing the truth doesn't matter to most people but in the first video the guy called the police before he went out with the weapon and told them where he would be walking and what he would be doing as a protest to something the state AG said in a court hearing. The police officer who stopped him was also a friend of his and if you watch the entire video (not just miss leading clip here) he explains that. In the latter case he did not call the police ahead to inform them of his protest. I'm not saying what the cops did was right (it obviously wasn't) but the two people would have been treated the same had they taken the same actions. 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 01:09 | 6102206 Chad_the_short_...
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Wait till the JEWS bring their ISIS project to america. Gonna be a lot of dead white people. But the JEWS agenda is to genocide white people.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 04:33 | 6102372 seminal1
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Too much crack and meth can make people delusional. 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 02:20 | 6102269 peterZ
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man #2 is a brave soul!

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 02:40 | 6102287 AChinese
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This open carrying is stupid. Maybe that's the right but that's also a threat to everyone else. I'm not saying you can't carry a gun around, just be a civilized person, keep your weapon in a bag or something.

Not about right, just about manner.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 05:58 | 6102434 honestann
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I must say, I consider it much more polite to give visible warnings to predators so they can steer clear and not start fights with creatures prepared for them.

To be sure, there are benefits to keeping guns hidden.  That way you invite human predators to attempt to prey upon you (the armed human) just as frequently as unarmed humans prey.  And as a result, human predators are more likely to be exterminated when you pull out your gun when threatened and blow them away.

That's good for "everyone else", because it reduces the number of human predators wandering around looking for human prey.  However, by not wearning your warning visibly, you do invite more assaults upon yourself, which is not especially enjoyable.

In summary, both ways have their advantages, but I prefer everyone openly wear guns, because then humans who consider being predators see everyone is prepared for them, and decide to spend their lives in other more productive ways.

PS:  To carry a gun is NOT a threat.  You can probably kill more people in a shorter time with your car than you can with a typical gun.  Does that mean you consider everyone with a car is a threat?  Seriously?  Maybe you should rethink your attitude!

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 06:22 | 6102452 AChinese
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Maybe open carried gun warns attackers but also a open threat to all others.

Everyone can kill others with any tool. A gun give the carrier the false feeling of safety. But that's on the price of everyone else's feeling. Open carrying is selfish after all.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 04:10 | 6102351 honestann
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I can't believe the BS people write!  According to the fake constitution in the fake nation these events happen, everyone has an absolute right to bear arms, which means carry them around.  That anyone even tries to justify a cop ASKING about a weapon proves humans are absolutely and completely beyond hope.  Probably because they went to public school, and their brain is now utterly destroyed and incapable of performing even trivial operations correctly.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 06:10 | 6102442 olenumbersix
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This is fun, openly provoking law enforcement. "I don't have to show I.D.", "I'm allowed to carry my ar15." All true. Just not sure its wise? Seems like this kind of crap is the type of thing that gets new gun laws on the books. Like making it illeagl to open carry fire arms. Anyone remember when florida used to have open carry? I do. Kept a 12 gauge on a rack in my pickup (yeah total redneck) Next time your in florida try counting the number of open carry fire arms you see. Personally I miss our states open carry laws. Try not to loose yours if you still have them.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 08:18 | 6102562 loonyleft
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too funny seeing all the right wing conservitards passively endorsing gun control. You're gonna get your NRA membership revoked. 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:00 | 6103235 seminal1
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It isn't right wing conservatives that are endorsing gun control but many of us are fed up with all you looney left wing white libtards defending and making excuses for black gangster ghetto thugs.

Only looney libtards would think that they and black gangster ghetto thugs are all part of the same struggle. 

They'd stomp on you, beat the shit out of you, steal everything you have and they wouldn't think twice about it. Go take a stroll through a city like Baltimore and see for yourself. 

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 08:53 | 6102591 sessinpo
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Total BS. The actual liveleak post states that:

Some retards try to make a video about how BLM - notice how the 1st guy was in Albany Oregon (Linn County) where it is legal to open carry,  but 2nd guy was in Washington County Oregon (Portland Metro) and City ordinance prohibits open carry.
Sun, 05/17/2015 - 11:18 | 6102855 cassotto
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cannot compare the two vids, the officer in the first vid is very familiar with these guys, i've seen the officer in a similar vid in which he showed these type of guys what kind of assault rifle he has in his patrol car

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