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Greenwald Warns "The Greatest Threat To Free Speech Is Not From Terrorism, But From Those Claiming To Fight It"

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Authored by Glenn Greenwald, originally posted at The Intercept,

We learned recently from Paris that the Western world is deeply and passionately committed to free expression and ready to march and fight against attempts to suppress it. That’s a really good thing, since there are all sorts of severe suppression efforts underway in the West - perpetrated not by The Terrorists but by the Western politicians claiming to fight them.

One of the most alarming examples comes, not at all surprisingly, from the U.K. government, which is currently agitating for new counterterrorism powers, “including plans for extremism disruption orders designed to restrict those trying to radicalize young people.” Here are the powers which the British Freedom Fighters and Democracy Protectors are seeking:

They would include a ban on broadcasting and a requirement to submit to the police in advance any proposed publication on the web and social media or in print. The bill will also contain plans for banning orders for extremist organisations which seek to undermine democracy or use hate speech in public places, but it will fall short of banning on the grounds of provoking hatred.

 

It will also contain new powers to close premises including mosques where extremists seek to influence others. The powers of the Charity Commission to root out charities that misappropriate funds towards extremism and terrorism will also be strengthened.

In essence, advocating any ideas or working for any political outcomes regarded by British politicians as “extremist” will not only be a crime, but can be physically banned in advance. Basking in his election victory, Prime Minister David Cameron unleashed this Orwellian decree to explain why new Thought Police powers are needed: “For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens ‘as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone.'” It’s not enough for British subjects merely to “obey the law”; they must refrain from believing in or expressing ideas which Her Majesty’s Government dislikes.

If all that sounds menacing, tyrannical and even fascist to you — and really, how could it not?extremism disruption orders” — you should really watch this video of Tory Home Secretary Theresa May trying to justify the bill in an interview on BBC this morning. Watch the video below (or click here) and see the face of Western authoritarianism, advocating powers in the name of Freedom that are its very antithesis.

When pressed on what “extremism” means — specifically, when something crosses the line from legitimate disagreement into criminal “extremism” — she evades the question completely, repeatedly invoking creepy slogans about the need to stop those who seek to “undermine Our British Values” and, instead, ensure “we are together as one society, One Nation” (I personally believe this was all more lyrical in its original German).

Threats to free speech can come from lots of places. But right now, the greatest threat by far in the West to ideals of free expression is coming not from radical Muslims, but from the very Western governments claiming to fight them. The increasingly unhinged, Cheney-sounding governments of the U.K., Australia, France, New Zealand and Canada — joining the U.S. — have a seemingly insatiable desire to curb freedoms in the name of protecting them: prosecuting people for Facebook postings critical of Western militarism or selling “radical” cable channels, imprisoning people for “radical” tweets, banning websites containing ideas they dislike, seeking (and obtainingnew powers of surveillance and detention for those people (usually though not exclusively Muslim citizens) who hold and espouse views deemed by these governments to be “radical.”

Anticipating Prime Minister Cameron’s new “anti-extremist” bill (to be unveiled in the “Queen’s Speech”), University of Bath Professor Bill Durodié said that “the window for free speech has now been firmly shut just a few months after so many political leaders walked in supposed solidarity for murdered cartoonists in France.” Actually, there has long been a broad, sustained assault in the West on core political liberties — specifically due process, free speech and free assembly — perpetrated not by “radical Muslims,” but by those who endlessly claim to fight them. Sadly, and tellingly, none of that has triggered parades or marches or widespread condemnation by Western journalists and pundits. But for those who truly believe in principles of free expression — as opposed to pretending to when it allows one to bash the Other Tribe — these are the assaults that need marches and protests.

 

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Sun, 05/17/2015 - 12:47 | 6103073 -.-
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Same as it ever was.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 12:55 | 6103094 TeamDepends
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The inalienable right to call these people "assholes" is backed up by the Second Amendment.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:17 | 6103155 Divine Wind
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Most of this is coming as a result of the expansion of Islam in the UK and elsewhere in Europe.

So lets explore the problem:

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims...
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theater Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Beslan Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims'

Think of it:

Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confucians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confucians living with Hindus = No Problem

*********WHEREAS**************

Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

**********SO THIS LEADS TO *****************

They're not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan
They're blowing up mosques in Yemen

******** So, where are they happy? **********

They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in the USA & Canada
They're happy in Norway & India

They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!

And who do they blame? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves...

THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!

And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they
came from where they were unhappy and finally they will get hammered !!!!

Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR DIRECTIVE
ISIS : AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
AND A LOT MORE !!!!!!!

Islam has been a festering wound on humanity for over 1000 years.

Ban / moderate / restrain Islam and a BIG chunk of the problem goes away.

Portions of the above were swiped from:

https://www.facebook.com/ThreatJournal/posts/812444585498068:0

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:22 | 6103168 BoredRoom
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Worry not, the Chosenite media will print everything their Chosenite bankster cartel masters deem necessary.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:40 | 6103219 Pool Shark
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Funny how our current dystopian society caused by the "War on Terror" was all foreseen 30 years ago, in a movie,...

made by a Monty Python member:

 http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1003033-brazil/

How do you think Big Brother came to power?...

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:50 | 6103246 Haus-Targaryen
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Wow.  The UK is fucked almost as bad as the US is.  

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:54 | 6103252 ZerOhead
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Perhaps DivineWind is correct in saying that ALL of the World's problems are causesd by Muslims. (Of course that could be deemed hate speech too... although of the largely unprosecutable type.)

In that event all I want to know is how did Osama Bin Laden by-pass Larry's WTC 7 security team and load the building with explosives that unexpectedly went off  BEFORE either WTC1 and WTC2 went down.

? Barry Jennings' account of WTC 7 explosions - YouTube

Just askin'...

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:54 | 6103255 Haus-Targaryen
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Paul Joseph Watson -- when you are labeled an extremeist, hop on a ferry, come over to Germany and you can crash on my couch.  Free WiFi, Beer & my landlord makes an awesome flafel. 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:03 | 6103283 SafelyGraze
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"The Greatest Threat To Free Speech Is Not From Terrorism, But From Those Claiming To Fight It"

I wanted to say something about how these policies lead to self-censorship, but I decided it would be better not to

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:05 | 6103288 Haus-Targaryen
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Oh aren't you clever?

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:09 | 6103301 SafelyGraze
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sometimes one must go low-brow.

apologies.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:11 | 6103309 Haus-Targaryen
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Why apologize?  I meant it as a compliment. 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:46 | 6103388 jefferson32
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The Muslim world was the epicenter of culture and civilized society in the Western hemisphere while we Europeans were mired in the obscurantist Middle Ages. We owe them algebra and our modern numbering system. We rediscovered Antique philosophy in the Renaissance thanks to the Arabs.

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:55 | 6103411 jefferson32
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To downvoters, you may dislike a simple statement of fact. The truth is that since WWI and the defeat of the Ottomans the anglo-Empire holds the prime responsibility for Arab strife and obscurantism.

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:36 | 6103547 Grimaldus
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Total bullshit dude. Arabs fucked themselves up. There is really something wrong with them at a fundamental level. They know it, everybody knows it. Want some scumbags? Find a group of Arabs and you got a good start. And of course the favorite Arab thing to do is blame everyone one else.

Oh and about your other total bullshit about the Arab golden age, the facts are you must still be in elementary school or a brainwashed progressive assclown dhimmwit.

 

 

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Myths-of-Islam.htm#science

 

"The Myth:

Muslims often claim that their religion fostered a rich heritage of scientific discovery, “paving the way” for modern advances in technology and medicine.  On this topic, they usually refer to the period between the 7th and 13th centuries, when Europe was experiencing its “Dark Ages” and the Muslim world was acquiring new populations and culture through violent conquest.

The Truth: 

Although there is no arguing that the Muslim world was relatively more advanced during this Middle Age period than the “Christian” world, the reasons for this have absolutely nothing to do with the Islamic religion (other than its mandate for military expansion).  In fact, the religion tends to discourages knowledge outside of itself (Quran 5:101-102), which is why the most prolific Muslim scholars are usually students of religion rather than science.

[Note that the country of Spain alone translates more learning material and literature into Spanish each year than the entire Arab world has translated into Arabic since the 9th century.  As the Saudi Grand Mufti bluntly put it in 2010, "The Quran with its stories and knowledge are sufficient for us... we don't need the Torah, or Gospels, or any other book].

The many fundamentalists and other devotees who dress as Muhammad did and adopt 7th century lifestyles to some degree or another underscore the importance of tradition in Islam.  The religion is highly conservative and resistant to change, which is viewed with suspicion.  As scholar Bernard Lewis points out, in Islam an innovation is presumed to be bad unless it can be proven to be good.

Beyond this, there are four basic reasons why Islam has little true claim to scientific achievement:

First, the Muslim world benefited greatly from the Greek sciences, which were translated for them by dhimmi Christians and Jews.  To their credit, Muslims did a better job of preserving Greek text than did the Europeans of the time, and this became the foundation for their own knowledge.  (One large reason for this, however, was that access by Christians to this part of their world was cut off by Muslim slave ships and coastal raids that dominated the Mediterranean during this period).

Secondly, many of the scientific advances credited to Islam were actually “borrowed” from other cultures conquered by the Muslims.  The algebraic concept of “zero”, for example, is erroneously attributed to Islam when, in fact, it was a Hindu discovery that was merely introduced to the West by Muslims. 

In truth, conquered populations contributed greatly to the history of “Muslim science” until gradually being decimated by conversion to Islam (under the pressures of dhimmitude).  The Muslim concentration within a population is proportional to the decline of scientific achievement.  It is no accident that the Muslim world has had little to show for itself in the last 800 years or so, since running out of new civilizations to cannibalize.

Third, even accomplished Muslim scientists and cultural icons were often considered heretics in their day, sometimes with good reason.  One of the greatest achievers to come out of the Muslim world was the Persian scientist and philosopher, al-Razi.  His impressive works are often held up today as “proof” of Muslim accomplishment.  But what the apologists often leave out is that al-Razi was denounced as a blasphemer, since he followed his own religious beliefs – which were in obvious contradiction to traditional Islam.

Fourth, even the contributions that are attributed to Islam (often inaccurately) are not terribly dramatic.  There is the 'invention' of certain words, such as alchemy and elixir (and assassin, by the way), but not much else that survives in modern technology which is of practical significance.  Neither is there any reason to believe that such discoveries would not have easily been made by the West following the cultural awakening triggered by the Reformation.

As an example, consider that Muslims claim credit for coffee - in the sense that they popularized existing knowledge of Africans who were caught up in the Arab slave trade.  However, it is also true that the red dye used in many food products, from cranberry juice to candy, comes from the abdomen of a particular female beetle found in South America.  It is extremely unlikely that the West would not have stumbled across coffee by now.

In fact, the litany of “Muslim” achievement often takes the form of rhapsody, in which the true origins of these discoveries are omitted - along with their comparative significance to Western achievement.  One often doesn't hear about the dismal fate of original accomplishments either.  Those who brag about the great observatory of Taqi al-Din in [freshly conquered] Istanbul, for example, often neglect to mention that it was quickly destroyed by the caliphate.

At the end of the day, the record of scientific, medical and technological accomplishment is not something over which Muslim apologists want to get into a contest with the Christian world.  Today’s Islamic innovators are primarily known for turning Western technology, such as cell phones and airplanes, into instruments of mass murder.

To sum up, although the Islamic religion is not entirely hostile to science, neither should it be confused as a facilitator.  The great achievements that are said to have come out of the Islamic world were made either by non-Muslims who happened to be under Islamic rule, or by heretics who usually had little interest in Islam.  Scientific discovery tapers off dramatically as Islam asserts dominance, until it eventually peters out altogether. "

 

Yeah so don't forget to call me when the great Muslim mission to Mars spacecraft lands....

 

Grimaldus

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 16:48 | 6103738 James_Cole
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Muslim scholars contributed fundamentally to mathematics and no they were not heretics for doing so. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Compendious_Book_on_Calculation_by_Comp...

But to be fair to divine wind lets look at some more conflicts directly attributable to Islam meddling:

mexico - muslims
phillipines - muslims
WWI - muslims
WWII - muslims
Hiroshima / Nagasaki - muslims
Korea - muslims
vietnam - muslims
cambodia - muslims
laos - muslims
cuba - muslims
congo - muslims
el salvador - muslims
grenada - muslims 
chad - muslims
panama - muslims
colombia - muslims
venezuela - muslims
liberia - muslims
sierra leone - muslims
iraq - muslims 
and then the whole time Soviets /RUSSIA - muslims 

Dang! Muslims got they hands in everything!

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 22:32 | 6104529 oudinot
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ha,has james, very droll...

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 18:04 | 6103931 usednabused
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Grimy, you want soome REAL scumbags? I mean the genuine type? Line up some fucking Zionists. Doesn't matter how many in that line, its guaranteed to stin k to high heaven, and you won't find any more corruption on planet earth.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:53 | 6103417 kaiten
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Yes, and now 1000 years later, Europeans live in modern, civilized world and muslims are mired in the obscurantist Middle Ages. Time is going backwards in some civilizations, it seems.....

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:57 | 6103432 jefferson32
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Perhaps. But it still shows that Islam is not intrinsically congruent with barbarism.

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:18 | 6103489 Mr. Frosty
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Actually, it does. All Islam's "accomplishments" were stolen from the Persians and Hindus. Then once these people were converted to Islam by the sword, suddenly all "accomplishments" ended.

 

Islam is intrinsically congruent with barbarism, history proves this.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 19:36 | 6104163 Alvin Fernald
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'were stolen from' are you sure you are not writing of Judaism?

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 22:37 | 6104540 oudinot
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History proves Islam is congruent with barbarism?

You are an ignorant dork.

In the Middle Ages when Muslims states tolderated other religions just taxed them differently (a higher tax for infidels) while Chrisitians burned heretics of their own  faith and had NO religious tolerance whatsoever.

Frosty, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about..


 

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:25 | 6103510 Things that go bump
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But they've always treated women barbarically.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 16:02 | 6103610 Trucker Glock
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jefferson32, you're using Arab and Muslim interchangeably.  They're not.  Do you really believe Islam had anything to do with algebra?  Does Christianity gets credit for calculus because Newton and Leibniz were Christians?

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 17:36 | 6103853 James_Cole
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jefferson32, you're using Arab and Muslim interchangeably.

Want some scumbags? Find a group of Arabs and you got a good start. And of course the favorite Arab thing to do is blame everyone one else.

 

Oh and about your other total bullshit about the Arab golden age, the facts are you must still be in elementary school or a brainwashed progressive assclown dhimmwit.

 

[jefferson32] Islam is not intrinsically congruent with barbarism.

 

[zh drone response] Islam is intrinsically congruent with barbarism, history proves this.

And Newton wasn't a Christian by any reasonable definition of christianity. Ironically, Newton was considered a heretic for his personal beliefs - something zh'ers have been claiming about muslim scholars. Infact, many western scholars were considered heretics in their day (some still are). 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 17:50 | 6103887 Trucker Glock
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Newton certainly wasn't an orthodox Christian, but he was a Christian.  Jesus was a heretic, but still a Jew.  Martin Luther was a heretic, yet still a Christian.

All of this is way beyond the point I was making about someone crediting Islam for algebra.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 18:09 | 6103944 James_Cole
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Jesus was a heretic, but still a Jew.

er wth?

All of this is way beyond the point I was making about someone crediting Islam for algebra.

 

The Muslim world was the epicenter of culture and civilized society in the Western hemisphere while we Europeans were mired in the obscurantist Middle Ages. We owe them algebra and our modern numbering system.

jefferson32s statement is both true & not crediting Islam for algebra. The statement is obviously referring to the fact that algebra came out of that culture, a strong argument against the common zh refrain that muslems / arabs are a bunch of barbarians (see above). 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 21:20 | 6104379 Trucker Glock
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"The Muslim world was...  We owe them algebra..."

So, your saying he's not crediting Islam, but Islamic culture, for algebra.  What's the difference?  And how is that an argument against "the common zh refrain", which you lumped my comment into?  The fact that a Persian or Mesopotamian, who happened to be Muslim, was important to the development of algebra is as relevant to the conversation as the fact that some psychotic fuckers are cutting people's heads off.  You want have your cake and eat it, too.  You want to claim that advances in civilization that came from "the Muslim World" are evidence of something good inherent to Islam, but violent Islamic extremism is not evidence that barbarism is inherent to Islam.  I'm saying both are fallacious.  Unlike you, I don't feel the need to take a side in this Islam debate.  I was simply pointing out a flawed, irrelevant argument.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 21:37 | 6104407 Trucker Glock
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"er wth?"

Yes, Jesus was Jewish.  A rabbi, in fact.  That is, if you believe these sorts of things.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:14 | 6103315 ZerOhead
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Keep your head down and graze on my friend... graze on...

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 17:38 | 6103854 unicorn
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you could call it something like an autoimmun disiease...hm?

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:56 | 6103260 TeethVillage88s
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Check bottom of this list see UK & USA 192 & 193 out of 193 countries.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/21...

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:32 | 6103529 Cactus
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Greece at 41 LOL!

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 17:21 | 6103816 TeethVillage88s
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Mind Control. Sure our Debt to GDP is way low. Why in the USA we out produce, out work, out manufacture, out invent, out create everyone.

We're the Rootin'-est, Tootin'-est in the whole Western World.

But 'er we have a ton of accountant types, lawyers, and bankers that don't add value to the E-CON-imy.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:03 | 6103276 A Lunatic
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At least here in the U.S. we still have the right to......hold on a minute........um......uhhh, fuck it was right here .......uhmmmmmmm......well we can still......uhhh........this is strange........lemme get back to you...........

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:37 | 6103382 TeamDepends
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Oh no, our rights as enumerated in the Bill Of Rights are INALIENABLE = they CAN NOT BE TAKEN AWAY. Sure, our representatives (that's a joke) wipe their ass with the Constitution, but they swore an oath to uphold it. Know your rights and be willing to die for them, or "live" in chains. The choice is yours.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 16:47 | 6103703 Trucker Glock
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I thought we covered this in an earlier thread.  The Bill of Rights were not intended to be a list of unalienable rights.  The amendments are intended to be a partial list of limits on Federal Govt powers, which hasn't worked out so well.  The Bill of Rights was specific to Federal Govt until ratification of the 14th Amendment, which is supposed to apply the Bill of Rights to States, also.  Again, that hasn't worked out so well either.  The SCOTUS decided some but not other amendments apply to the States.  Go figure.

The Bill of Rights are part of the Constitution, which is amendable.  The State legislatures could repeal the entire Bill of Rights with an amendment.  The SCOTUS has certainly fucked the people with their interpretations of the Contitution, including the Bill of Rights.  Under the Constitution, our rights granted by the Bill of Rights can be and have been taken away.

In the end, it is up to the individual to decide what their unalienable rights are and how they choose to invoke and defend those rights at their own peril or victory.  It's up to YOU to pick your battles.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:11 | 6103251 ZerOhead
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'Brazil' just totally fucked with my mind when I first saw it. To be honest I didn't have a clue what was going on in it. Today I view it as a masterpiece on par with Orwell's '1984'.

Anyway... someone way smarter than me once said "If you can't beat them join them".

On that self-evident note I will be opening up a new Re-education/Brainwashing boot camp to bring people back into line with the vision of Peace Prosperity and Freedom espoused by the Cheney/Obama/Clinton/Bush MSM CIA set.

To be honest it's going to be both expensive and extremely unpleasant... but it'll be a hell of a lot better than having 50,000 volts coursing through your testicles on NWO Judgement Day.

Classes will be starting on 8/15/15. 8:15 A.M. sharp.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:35 | 6103356 Pool Shark
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To my mind, Brazil was the total synthesis of the dystopian futures foreseen by both Orwell and Huxley.

People would rebel against the direct authoritarianism described in 1984; so Huxley's vision of keeping the masses pacified and sedated had to be employed.

 

Orwell said Big Brother would forcibly ban books to enforce censorship.

Huxley said the government/media complex would simply immerse society in a sea of innanities; so that nobody would ever want to read a book:

https://twistedsifter.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/george-orwell-vs-aldous-huxley-brave-new-world-vs-1984-comic.png

Huxley thought that if,... er,... uh,... Excuse me, there's a piece about Kim Kardashian on Yahoo!.....

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:44 | 6103397 ZerOhead
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Absolutely.

Don't think they will allow it to ever be televised again however.  Too truthy.

Anyone here know if Orwell's '1984' is still required reading in any Public Schools these days?

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:12 | 6103472 IndyPat
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If they do still require its reading it's authoritarian aspects are presented as a "feature" rather than a "bug", most likely.
I went back an re-read all of those last summer.

Read a whole lot heavier through 44 yr old eyes.

The required reading should be for everyone 30 and up. It's wasted on mush headed high school seniors...at least, I can attest that the full scope of Animal Farm, 1984 and Brave New Word were lost on me at that age. I remember reading it and thinking "no fucking way would this happen".

Fuck if it didn't.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 17:13 | 6103785 ZerOhead
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Good point. It was all wasted time for me as well. There were hot chicks in the class and I was going through puberty. Go figure.

I read 1984 a couple of years back and the bleakness and hopelessnessand terror of it all just permeates your soul like an urban landscape in decline. (See Detroit). Now I just want to live and work my remaining years outdoors in the countryside....

Mon, 05/18/2015 - 07:10 | 6105032 oudinot
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Pool Shark, you are confused: Huxley's , 'Brave New World", described a Utopia , Orwell's, "1984", described a dystopia.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:38 | 6103214 shouldvekilledthem
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I bet that the muslim "problem" would go away as soon as we got rid off the bankster parazites.

These pesky little goatfucking mountain bums wouldn't do much without money and arms provided. 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:54 | 6103253 Divine Wind
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If you believe this then you are a poor student of history.

This in no way discounts the evils of bankster parsites, but other forms of evil concurrently exist in the world.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 16:33 | 6103339 AIIB
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What's your opinion on the concept of 'usury' as it applies to Muslims & Sharia Law?

 

& ESPECIALLY (thereto), your concept of...

 

- The religion of Islam (which, like Judiasm, is a 'ABRAHAMIC' extension)

- The fact that ZERO central banks worldwide are owned by Muslims, & whereby 'USURY' is forbidden

- & whereby, over the past 1,000 years that you nominate, Muslim countries do not have a significant record of invading other countries, whereas, (as it was published here on ZH only yesterday), that BRITIAN, has invaded all but 22 countries worldwide, & that its surrogate, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, is on pace to surpass that distinction

 

... & OH BY THE WAY... The impetuous for BOTH of those phenomenon came by way of jews overruning the POWER NODES?

 

IOW ~ Fuck you you motherfucking fuck!... Look ~ I'm not trying to absolve radical Muslims here... But from my perspective, things are VERY DIFFERENT from what they appear to be in Western Media...

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 18:14 | 6103956 usednabused
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FawkinAye. One thing Zioniosts are great at is pinning the tail on the donkey. They are evil period.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:45 | 6103232 DutchR
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So the BOLD font is the problem, check.

 

Easy to fix, erase all the bold fonts, better yet, give them a gold star so we can identify them.

 

See where this is going

 

If you replace muslim by human maybe you could start a dialog

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:03 | 6103273 Doña K
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To Kami-kaze

Great summary....

Unfortunately, politicians cannot read.

The world GDP needs:

The war merchants

The drug cartels

The sex trade and, 

The money spent to fight against the last two. 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:02 | 6103275 New_Meat
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"If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, in every battle will you be in peril." -SZ

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:04 | 6103281 Flybyknight
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Actualy the problem is America and pals

 

 

Bombed Viet Nam

Bombed Iraq

Bombed Somalia

Bombed Afghanistan

BombedSyris

Bombed Libya

Bombed Serbia

Arranged for bombing in Ukraine

Arranged for bombing in Macedonia

The list goes on of places around the world where America has created bitterness and revenge/hatred while the toady western news media portrays it as spreading peace and democracy. Why don't you stop watching TV and educate yourself.

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:22 | 6103344 DutchR
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Hold there buster, They LIBERATED those countries.

I'f you can't handle democracy, well .....

 

Raytheon stocks are up

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:21 | 6103478 farflungstar
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Sounds like every Muslim everywhere is a terrorist. Imagine being that scared and ignorant. Whether a patsy, a moron, an outraged person with legitimate grievances (like some foreign assholes invaded/bombed/sanctioned my country and killed my children), violence by Muslims is always wrong - whereas violence by white Christians and Jews is always righteous and perfectly acceptable. Fucking with them where we are not wanted and do not belong is not taken into account. Terrorists everywhere you look - under your bed, in the broom closet, banging your girlfriend, that swarthy guy at work - and then we find out biggest terrorists of all are Western allies. 

Insane and paranoid israeli Jews approve of this message. They have the most to gain from fucking with the Arabs and then pointing out to us how cwazy they are for getting upset about it. 

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 16:08 | 6103540 Things that go bump
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You know, if only they'd just take their religion the way the rest of the world does I think things would improve greatly. Like the pirate code, its more like guidelines. I can't imagine somebody killing people who worked at a magazine simply because there was a caricature of Christ or Buddha in a cartoon. 

Unless, of course, their violence is politically motivated in answer to oppression. Perhaps the Saudi's support extremism as a tool to turn the faces of their young men outward rather then focusing their discontent on the true source of their problems.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:31 | 6103527 Andre
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Not to quibble too much, but:

  • The shoe bomber was a PATSY
  • The underwear bomber was a PATSY
  • The Boston "Bombing" was mercs
  • The Iranian Embassy takeover was a revolution, in response to a US installed puppet

What about the Israeli "KuturKampf" against the Palestinians? The destruction of Libya? The invasion of Iraq (1 and 2)? The "insugents" in Syria? The Maidan Massacre and the destabilization of the Ukraine? 9/11?

AND THE LIST GOES ON!!! /s

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 17:42 | 6103867 roadhazard
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Any religion that considers me kill worthy if I don't convert or join is going to have a problem with me. Fuck you ignorant sluts.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 18:28 | 6103982 usednabused
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No, Fuck you asshole. You're perfectly fine with the swine sticking boots up peoples asses, and the gov't shitting all over the population, but you can't handle a religion telling you what to do? What a miserable piece of shit you really are.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 19:32 | 6104153 Alvin Fernald
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So you admit to being scared of Muslims?

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 21:22 | 6104384 oudinot
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Which country has killed or displaced more people in the past 75 years?

One guess: it wasn't a Muslim country.

Divine Wind you are a complete  joke.


Mon, 05/18/2015 - 05:23 | 6104942 Shropshire Lad
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re: Divine Wind "Every bad thing comes from Islam"

Many of the violent bombing and hijackings listed were actually Mossad/CIA/MI6 false flags so that suckers like Divine Wind would fall for the bait.

Mon, 05/18/2015 - 05:54 | 6104958 Shropshire Lad
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re: Divine Wind "Every bad thing comes from Islam"

Many of the violent bombing and hijackings listed were actually Mossad/CIA/MI6 false flags so that suckers like Divine Wind would fall for the bait.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:18 | 6103157 Beam Me Up Scotty
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All they need to do, is leave me the fuck alone.  Simple really.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:33 | 6103196 U4 eee aaa
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Not for the adherents of busybodyism

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:36 | 6103204 Beam Me Up Scotty
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Oh you are spot on my friend.  Its like elementary school all over again.  The little tattle tail busy bodies still haven't learned to MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS!!

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 12:57 | 6103096 Oh regional Indian
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The words tell the story again.

TERROR is mostly tERROR.

Induced ERROR at that.

Perception controllers rule an egregore formed world.

https://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2012/06/30/war-of-the-worlds/

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:42 | 6103223 LawsofPhysics
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Correct.  Perception is everything.

ORI, you may use the following for your blog;

I had a very interesting conversation with a commercial beekeeper recently.  He was moving his commercial hives onto some ajoining property for pollentation.  We have kept our own hives for a very long time and he noticed some of our in my pecan grove.  I happened to be there checking on some supers so he came over to say hi.  He notice right away that some of my old hives had twice as many bees and supers.  In some case probably 10x more bees and honey production.  He asked me how I was chemically treating the "weak" hive in order to fix the problem.  My response was simply "what problem".  I tol him that after doing this for 20+ years I have made the observation that the hive (as a collective organism) and hives in general are very much like people.  I have some ambitious hives and some hives that make just enough to get throught the winter, and that's it.  I let the "lazy" hives create a new queen, then I kill the old one, the issue of ambition can be corrected without too much effort.  I maintain enough room in the ambitous hives and pull honey from them.  He asked me what I thought about the collony collapse he had been seeing in the chemically-treated corporate world of beekeeping.  I told him that I really could not help him, because I haven't experience a "die-off" in 20 years.  Aside from the time my asshole nieghbor overspayed some nicotiamide compounds.  The simple questin I asked him was, "what if the corporate model for beekeeping is wrong?  What if the corporate model for everything, at this particular point in history is corrupted beyond repair?

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:50 | 6103244 DutchR
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Read it twice, and yes.

 

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:51 | 6103249 LawsofPhysics
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Just as I was fixing the spelling/grammar, damn it.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:13 | 6103313 DutchR
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Wait what, i did no see anything wrong, goddamn dislexia or whatever her name is called.

 

"What if the corporate model for everything, at this particular point in history is corrupted beyond repair?"

 

Yes, still

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:59 | 6103265 Oh regional Indian
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Thanks for that insight LOP.

Will use it as appropriate.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:15 | 6103151 williambanzai7
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Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:54 | 6103254 DutchR
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They need more starch WB

 

Them BICHEZ need moar starch.....

 

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:03 | 6103279 TeethVillage88s
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Frau Steiner!

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:19 | 6103493 IndyPat
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Estro Uber Allies!

Fuck WB, that's some stark shit.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:10 | 6103287 LetsGetPhysical
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The Electronic Police State: Brought to you by the good Progressives of SillyCon Valley. 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:13 | 6103316 Miss Expectations
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Is there a restroom for these things?

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:29 | 6103355 Pancho de Villa
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You hit it out of the park again Banzai! The New Brownshirts! The SS tattoo on Pelosi's hand Seals the Deal. Ha!

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:29 | 6103358 Atomizer
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Kalifornia gals are going to get cock blocked. They don't see it coming. 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:39 | 6103389 boattrash
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Damn WB7, Do you sell large prints of that, (lifesize, or close)?

I'll buy the hell out of 'em for targets, and wifey will go shooting with me a lot more too!

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 12:50 | 6103080 q99x2
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No need to wish anything bad on Feinstein. She looks like she is already dead.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:05 | 6103106 AIIB
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Feinstein comes from a long lineage of jews, who, naturally [as they're quick to remind everyone], have only endured persecution, and now are conveniently positioned to tell everyone else how they need to live their lives [based upon the miserable hardships she has undoubtedly endured for all of her life]...

 

I'm so sorry for your misfortune Yenta.

 

In any case... NO DOUBT we'll finally get the straight [& concerned] 'tell all' story from a guy named GREENWALD

 

~~~

 

as francis_sawyer was fond of saying... "When it finally comes down to jew vs. jew, ALL HILARITY ensues"

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:02 | 6103110 DIgnified
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That's just what golems look like.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:07 | 6103296 A Lunatic
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Makes me want to gouge out my eyes..........

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:42 | 6103395 boattrash
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...makes me want to gouge out their eyes.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 16:10 | 6103624 AIIB
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makes me wanna fucking comment that, 'EARLIER' I made a comment about USURY (which, nobody can question 'JEWS' have, in thousands of years of recorded & otherwise 'scribed' history, have carved out a veritable FRANCHISE upon)... But, weirdly, I didn't nominate JEWS in that comment whatsoever... I simply mentioned that 'MUSLIMS' would consider USURY, AGAINST 'Sharia Law'...

 

Yet here... OTOH... I typed in 'jews' (which naturally, one must suppose, must trigger some JUNK algos, based upon the rapidity of 3 immediate junks)

 

WTF ever... It is what it is I suppose... Just sayin'... CH1 & SMG will be along in 5...4...3...2... to explain the abberation... Naturally ~ It will have something to do with either

 

1. BLIND HATRED

2. evil 'Luciferians'

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 12:52 | 6103086 onewayticket2
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today's left wants anything but "free" speech.   

love,

"fairness" doctrine and barack "we have to change how the news is reported" obama

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 12:54 | 6103092 DIgnified
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The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

 

Ecc 1:9

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 12:56 | 6103095 Chuck Knoblauch
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Chains of comfort keep them in power.

The flesh is weak.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:01 | 6103107 U4 eee aaa
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They don't give a flip about Islam. What they want is to curtail any information that might block what their governments have planned. They want to stop those that would stop their aggressive totalitarian agenda. Since leviathan corpo-government has grown to the point where it needs to feed all the time, these people need to constantly plan and execute the plans of spending then taxing the populace. Any 'speech' organization that stands in the way of this wholesale corpo-government raping and pillaging of the citizens, is a threat to this agenda and thus must be shut down.

The Muslims are the human shield excuse to push the fascist agenda

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:07 | 6103116 DIgnified
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My mind immediately went to " Well, our pedophilia is beginning to be widely known through various media forms and forums. What can we do about that?" To me this looks like a pedophilia protection act. 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:12 | 6103143 HowdyDoody
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There is always the dementia / alzheimer's disease

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greville_Janner,_Baron_Janner_of_Braunstone

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:43 | 6103227 Captain Debtcrash
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Ding ding ding!!! I'm pretty outspoken with my thoughtsand I am really curious how I will react if they attempt to curtail my freedom of speech. 

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:10 | 6103467 Jack Burton
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+100  Your last sentence " The Muslims are the human shield excuse to push the fascist agenda" tells it all. Watch the US support for Al-Qaeda and ISIS, and wonder why. Your sentence says WHY!

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:09 | 6103125 falak pema
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...

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:09 | 6103128 falak pema
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If the underlying mantras of the age are :  we can create money from nothing, we can lend as much as we want of this free money to do "what it takes" to hide past profligacy,  we must lie when things get difficult as little knowledge is a dangerous thing, we must support those who behead terrorists as we have no choice; they own the oil assets...then the logical end to that trail is to say to the endebted and bemused : you are not endebted you are privileged that we give you money to spend where your debt increases proportionally to our profits; you have never had it so good and now you must learn discipline and understand that right becomes wrong until we have solved the problem; whether that solution is a "final one" for some or a "patrician one" for others is obvious for those who understand and for those who don't that outcome depends on which side of the highway you stand ! 

For those who STILL won't understand nothing can be done other than be shown the smoking gun of our justice! 

As the man said : God's all seeing-all knowing existence needs no explanation to the believers; as for those who don't believe no explanation will ever be sufficient.  

Replace "the anointed" by "the elected" and you have the new church and its credo.

Its just as despotic as the old one.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:10 | 6103135 Ignatius
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Nice to see Greenwald catching up with ZH.

Geezus.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:12 | 6103140 farflungstar
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We have to destroy your freedoms in order to save them.

I thought the Bush Regime was bad when it came to that shit, but Obama is much, much worse. The European poodles find his brand of totalitarianism much more tolerable than the psuedo-religious fascists and warmongers of the previous admin. 

Big Brother, Big Sister...adds up to a bunch of Anglo Zionist assholes with a God Complex.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:02 | 6103277 LetsGetPhysical
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You don't see the Germans jumping up and down as much now that it's been disclosed they pretty muh give all data straight to the NSA. 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:13 | 6103141 farflungstar
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Shit.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:13 | 6103145 moneybots
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extremism disruption orders

 

How Orwellian.  An extremist government disrupting extremism, while ignoring its extremism.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:15 | 6103150 TomGa
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"I personally believe this was all more lyrical in its original German."  LOL! Brilliant.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:24 | 6103503 IndyPat
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GÖTTERDÄMMERUNG!

How's that for lyrical.

Good riddance to false gods.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:22 | 6103161 two hoots
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Power is now clearly in the hands of those doing the groomed leadership selection.  The next US presidential selection (aka election) will complete this new order (western world) and we will see the true players that will control our future by redefining or making constitutions meaningless or obsolete. (The current president was a necessary stepping tool).    

From David Cameron’s “recent overtly fascist language” to Hillary Clinton’s replacement of middle class with “every day Americans”, President Obama’s “level playing field” (including America) and the current movement to remove cash from  advanced societies one can sense the western (for now) bundling of all but the chosen elites (?) into a one class collective where equality is issued, enforced, and controlled.    All that will be missing, for a time,  is Huxley’s Soma.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:22 | 6103167 MedicalQuack
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Greenwald did another good presentation, "Privacy matters"...

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/10/why-privacy-matters-glen-greenwald-ted.html

We have no control, who has our data, who repackages us, so what ever they put out there people read all over the web, again think hard about the Anthem breach..it is the attack of the killer Algorithms and all data sellers needs to be licensed and indexed so we know who in the hell they are.  I said it 3 years ago in passing but now it's needed more than ever.  

How do you fix the errors, you can't fix them the way it stands now and you end up with a flawed profile that denies you access. I used the Greenwald video at my campaign.  Government has too many stupid lawyers involved that think their verbiage can control mining algorithms and data selling, well it can't they have been coding around the legal verbiage for years and create a "legal perception" that the miners/sellers are doing nothing wrong..again it is how the public buys in to this and seems to not even care until it hits them.  

http://www.youcaring.com/other/help-preserve-our-privacy-/258776

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:25 | 6103175 VWAndy
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Social contract? Government by consent? More like. Im big your little.

 If ya got nothing to hide. Then why worry about it? These are the same folks that need to peek in our windows and evey other aspect of our lives. The same ones that found no fraud in the MBS. The same ones that lost their E mails.

 This is how governments handle the truth. Run from it. Hide from it. Or just throw ya in jail for speaking it.

 Yep dark times a comin.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:33 | 6103200 Ban KKiller
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What is this "rule of law" she speaks of?

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:37 | 6103209 VWAndy
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Moving goal posts.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:49 | 6103241 VWAndy
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We must be getting pretty near the truth of it all. Banning truth and cash?

 Governments are becoming like religous cults. With the members incapable of thinking for themselves.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:57 | 6103262 Cloud9.5
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Schemes die with the schemers.  Even Stalin wound up in a box.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:57 | 6103263 HolyfieldsOtherEar
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And when we march and demonstrate against this British Ermächtigungsgesetz, we should remember to put up signs saying "off-duty cops and other agents provocateurs, who will be sure to smash windows, torch police cruisers and piss in alleyways, please stay away."

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:54 | 6103597 Things that go bump
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That's way too polite. The phrase, "will be dealt with accordingly," ought to be used. It still gets your meaning across and with a firmer tone.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 13:59 | 6103268 LetsGetPhysical
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Dear Greenwald, whatever happen to the rest of the Snowdem docs and who funds your site? 

signed, Pot calling the kettle black. 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:03 | 6103280 Anglo Hondo
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This comment was passed as "allowed" by the British Police Department.

All other comment, before and after, was deleted as "disallowed".

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:03 | 6103284 Bunga Bunga
Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:09 | 6103302 TeethVillage88s
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"Greenwald Warns "The Greatest Threat To Free Speech Is Not From Terrorism, But From Those Claiming To Fight It""

Greatest Threat to an Informed Citizenry is Government.

Greatest Threat to a good Election Process is Government

Greatest Threat to Responsible Voters is Government

Greatest Threat to Individualism, Self Actualization, Individuality, Self Determination, Freedom, Liberty, Equality, Brotherhood is a Media Controlled by Either Giant Corporations, Collective Press Agencies, or Big Government.

"Sieg Heil!"

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:37 | 6103348 Pancho de Villa
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Cameron is the "Extremist", resorting to the same sort of extremist measures as the US has been subjected to under the guise of the "Patriot Act", presidential Decree and other such UnConstitutional measures. 

Our own political "leaders" have become the "terrorists" perpetrating the very acts that they claim to be "protecting" the population from, using threats, intimidation and coercion. They work diligently to create a state of fear and submission as their chosen method of governing. 

The dictionary definition of Terrorism is: 

1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization. 

3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

 

Can anyone deny that these are the exact same tactics used by our politicians? 

 

Everything they do is opposed to Freedom and Liberty!     To Hell with All of them! 

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:27 | 6103514 IndyPat
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Fuckin A, Pancho.

Fuckin A.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 14:57 | 6103429 disgruntled hou...
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I have called my Congressional Representatives and expressed the sentiment that the real terroists operate out of Washington D.C. Have you?

These people operate in an insulated world. Some are naive and others corrupt to the core. If all they do is interact with lobbyists and each other how will they know what real Americans are thinking if you don't call/email.

Put their contact info into your phone. You can contact all three in 6-8 min with this info at your fingertips. Call every week and DEMAND CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM or voice your stance on TTIP/TPP.

As a bonus it will piss off the NSA- if we all are activists they are going to have a hard time targeting any of us.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:56 | 6103601 Things that go bump
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You called your representative a terrorist? Has your self-censorship malfunctioned?

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 20:02 | 6104230 Alvin Fernald
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No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.

Albert Einstein

(the answer to our problems is not a political one)

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:04 | 6103452 Jack Burton
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Home secretary says government's strategy is to combat people "seeking to divide us".

In other words. Government will combat any people who do not accept official government propaganda. Just like the USSR, they will begin to take out any opposing views. And they call it freedom. The UK elites are off their heads insane. Zionism has taken such deep root in the 1%, they want all power.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 16:42 | 6103726 smacker
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Wait till they start banning blogs which are critical of the State, reveal wrongdoings in government and call for a better system of government.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:07 | 6103460 Jack Burton
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just a few months after so many political leaders walked in supposed solidarity for murdered cartoonists in France

You need to understand where the support for the cartoonists comes from. The main stream liberal neocons run that magazine. Their cartoons aim for the elites enemies. Mostly they follow the EU line. THAT is why all the leaders marched. They marched in support of a main stream supporter of the neocon agenda.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:25 | 6103508 ken
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Are they taking advice from an imbedded operative, again?

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:30 | 6103520 ken
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Dis' rahption oh-dahs for the hos' tof the radio show, for questioning!!! Dis' rahption oh-dahs for the hos' tof the radio show, for questioning!!! Dis' rahption oh-dahs for the hos' tof the radio show, for questioning!!!

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 15:40 | 6103558 IndyPat
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All this talk about freedom and prime ministers?

Hate to be a party pooper....but we are talking about a western country still ruled by a queen.

It's the year twothousandandfuckingfifteen!

Seriously. If you are looking for a place to start making your claim for freedom, might I suggest...

You get the idea.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 16:07 | 6103633 asfffasfff
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"british values"?   what british values?  you talking about cheap immigrant labour of muslim decent you brought to uk (and europe) so you idiots can profit of them for a few generations, replace white people, create racial and religious competition, destroy identity and peace you had and now change the law of tolerance?

well done jews of england, at least you can flee to israel in future when it becomes ugly

 

you cant devide muslims from the childless white rest of UK because they were never a part of your society to begin with. even if they live next to you.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 16:19 | 6103665 kchrisc
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The criminals of government desire to protect speech, the way a wolf desires to protect the bleating of sheep.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

 

The General Axiom of Government #4: Being nothing but a criminal syndicate, government always accomplishes the opposite of the stated goal, as the stated goal is always cover for theft and is a lie.

The General Axiom of government #5: Being nothing but a criminal syndicate of theft and violence backed by a lie of "service," government finds it imperative to constantly monitor and control the thoughts, attitudes, behaviors, and speech of their victims--subjects.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 16:27 | 6103683 Clesthenes
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“The increasingly unhinged… have a seemingly insatiable desire to curb freedoms in the name of protecting them…”

And, they are now recruiting, training and protecting informers.

By the act of Congress that established the DHS a system was created by which informers could make false allegations against anyone they please with near-total impunity.  Of course, such informers aren’t described as informers; rather they are given the title “submitting person” and the DHS Act provides that their falsehoods will never be examined by any court or legislature or law enforcement agency.  The legislation even specifies how this immunity is obtained.  The “submitting person” only has to give an “express statement” that his lies were “voluntarily given” and that he expected “protection from disclosure”.

Normally immunity is decided on a case-by-case basis by prosecutors.  But not here.  Under the DHS Act, authority to grant immunity is given to those who provide false testimony.  What more could as thief want?

It’s all there, in the act that created the DHS.

Rest assured, your name is on a list, and when the DHS knocks on your door down, it will be too late.

There is a better alternative: we have to duplicate what American Founders did, minus their mistakes. (Complete article)

 

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 18:19 | 6103962 kchrisc
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"By the act of Congress that established the DHS a system was created by which informers could make false allegations against anyone they please with near-total impunity.  Of course, such informers aren’t described as informers; rather they are given the title “submitting person” and the DHS Act provides that their falsehoods will never be examined by any court or legislature or law enforcement agency.  The legislation even specifies how this immunity is obtained.  The “submitting person” only has to give an “express statement” that his lies were “voluntarily given” and that he expected “protection from disclosure”

This provides another means for "packing.--Like "hacking," but utilizes the wholesale injection of false information into a system, bureaucracy, and/or database.

Power created this so-called law as a tool to protect them, and their "machine" of plunder and power, from us. However, by constructing it the way they did, it offers us a way inside their machine. Like a virus, we, the people, can infect their tyrannical machine by "informing" on a massive level, and then demanding the impunity that is afforded by the law.

Of course all of our "informing" will be of false and fatuous information designed to fill their tyrannical system with junk and swill. More importantly, they will be hard pressed to sort truth from fiction, and their whole spying by informant system will collapse like WTC-7.

Even the prisoners of the Soviet Union's gulags found a way to "pack" the gulag bureaucracy with complaints and bring the whole system to a crawl.

The important thing to consider is: Power wrote all of their so-called laws to use against us without the expectation that they might one day be turned on them. Of course, we cannot expect that they will abide by their own laws, as they don't even now. However, we can infect their system of tyranny full of their own tyranny and nonsense, and render the machine so sick, that it collapses in a heap.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

 

Tyranny is a system of people. Think in systems, and tyranny's weaknesses will become apparent. Tyranny's primary vulnerability is that tyranny depends on us, their victims, for sustenance, while utilizing violence aginst us to maintain that sustenance--Tyranny is a loop of sustenance up, and violence down. Damage or destroy that loop at any point, and tyranny falters.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 16:39 | 6103714 smacker
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She's a lying bitch to talk about the Rule of Law, being a member of a criminal government which has taken no action against the equally criminal banksters.

So here's my extremism for you Theresa May: when the day of reckoning arrives, you are high on my list of those who will feel the rope around your neck.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 16:58 | 6103766 GRDguy
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The War on Terror was simply a ruse; what TPTB really meant that they would make war on anybody who got in the way of their Terror.  Just like National Security means to protect TPTB from the nationals.  

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 16:59 | 6103769 Falconsixone
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Sun, 05/17/2015 - 17:59 | 6103918 unicorn
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THIS IS AN AUTOIMMUNE DISEASE.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 18:47 | 6104037 monad
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We know. Get On With It!

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 20:34 | 6104290 ednraleigh
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"Sadly, and tellingly, none of that has triggered parades or marches or widespread condemnation by Western journalists and pundits." 

You can't expect mainstream media news to be accurate when they answer to a bunch of advertisers, and are probably owned by one or more of our three letter agencies of spy.  

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