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Mapping Marijuana Prices In The US
Want cheap weed? Don't go to North Dakota, where you'll pay nearly $400 an ounce. You're far better off in Orgeon where the going rate is just $204. And while some evidence indicates that the tax-related markup on legal, recreational marijuana has driven buyers back into the black market, the average price per ounce looks to support the idea that legalization drives down prices.
As you can see from the map below, the mean price for an ounce of marijuana in the United States is $324, according to the subtly named “PriceOfWeed.com”, a site which crowdsources average prices from users across the US, Canada, Europe, and Australia. Not coincidentally, the states where prices are lowest are also the states where recreational use is legal.
As a side note on taxation and legal marijuana, it appears that while some legal weed proprietors are happy to pay their fair share, the inconsistencies between state and federal laws make the reality anything but equitable.
Via NY Times:
Dispensary owners who once feared raids by drug enforcement agents say they take pride in paying taxes like any other business. They say it brings them out of the shadows and distinguishes them from the black market. Marijuana advocates trumpet tax-collection numbers to show that the industry is pouring millions of dollars into state budgets.
“It is the last domino that has to fall for us to be treated like any other business in the country,” said Tim Cullen, a co-owner of five marijuana shops in Colorado. “We’re not a black-market cocaine dealer. We’re totally on board and on the level. We’d like to be treated as such.”
A normal business, for example, might pay a 30 percent federal rate on its taxable income, which would represent its gross income minus deductible business expenses. A marijuana business, on the other hand, might pay the same federal rate on all of its gross income because it cannot take these deductions. The difference can raise the rate on a marijuana business to 70 percent or more of its profits.
Whatever the case may be, we suspect the widespread legalization of marijuana wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen to the US right now because although the $53 million in tax revenue Colorado took in during the first year of legalization was underwhelming by some estimates, the massive underfunded pension liabilities and gross fiscal mismanagement that plague the country’s state and local governments seem to suggest that every little bit of incremental revenue would help especially if legalization saves on drug enforcement costs.
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What world is this website talking about?
The government runs the Fed and the government is interfering in the market?
The Fed is 100% owned and controlled by the banks.
The Fed is the reason the government has to tax you.
The market is 100% manipulated by the banks. It creates shit the market doesn't need. It breaks the market. The market fails to punish the banker parasites. The market fully subsidizes the banks but that's not enough, the government subsidizes the banks and they get to commit dozens of crimes with impunity.
So WTF is Tyler talking about with this government "central planning" shit?
https://youtu.be/Y1ZxPxSD2Yo
Damn it man, we want taxation without representation like all the rest of the shlubs!
Man, when I was a teen-ager, we could get an ounce of mexican weed for $15 or some Columbian for $40.
LianaK. Why do you keep posting the same comments and the same link? Trying to promote your site?
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http://rt.com/usa/219463-gravel-senator-executive-marijuana/
"Marijuana Prices In The US"
A friend tells me...yeah that 's the ticket...a friend tells me that in HS 1972 weed was $10 a "lid" (ounce). Good, not best, but damn good.
Acid was $2 a "hit" (mostly blotter), and thus cheaper than pot.
Same for "cross tops" (amphetimine).
Cost-push inflation is part of the increase, but mostly its just typical margin, adding to margin, adding to margin being passed around the upward spiral.
Funny how "dilution" sounds like "delusion"....
More $2 acid "capitalism"!
Hehe, remember back in the very beginning of ZH? The Tylers sent a crew out to drop ZH links at various websites. Remember?
"remember back in the very beginning of ZH?"
Yeah, now the NSA (current owners) have replicating server distribution over OC-768 links....he, he....kids [sigh].
10 years ago, when I was in undergrad, The good stuff was never more than $200/oz.
"we could get an ounce"
$10...and Panama Red for $30...equivalent to "high quality" (buds with red pistils)....
But, so what? Houses in the same period (4/3) could be bought for under $20k.
And there's that "amotivational syndrome" thing....ahh, good times.
I'm calling shenanighans on the 'amotivational syndrome' biz.
Smokers who are unmotivated are in similar proportion to type-A smokers, as non-smokers.
More propaganda, unscientific polling, or both.
I started 45 years ago, yet you use things I invented or helped develope every day. My pals can all make similar claims. Your life would be different if mj lowered just MY motivation. Besides, productive smokers seldom admit it (they have prestigious jobs) and this skews any casual poll.
Don't be shilly.
My last pay check was $9500 working 12 hours a week online. My sisters friend has been averaging 15k for months now and she works about 20 hours a week. I can't believe how easy it was once I tried it out. This is what I do... www.jobs-review.com
"My last pay check was $9500"
That's a pretty expensive blow job! How do you do it?
all these "old " prices you people throw out are stupid. Location and quality are key in the argument.
Pot is 20 times more potent than decades ago.
It's $50 here in playacar. great stuff
it's $150 in Patagonia . like smoking dirt.
It's around $200 in the US where it is apparently " legal " in some states, yet your prison system is full of drug dealers doing decades for selling pot.
STUPID AS SHIT.
Buy up, Gen Y'er's. You got your grandparents entitlements to pay for.
The fools "Oh, its all legal now, we won!"...lol.
Interesting economics. I found an article about grow warehouses in Denver. 25,000 sq foot warehouse can grow 120 pounds a month. 16 ounces to a pound.
So that is 1,920 ounces per month x avg $300 retail. $576,000 a month.
http://theweedscene.com/marijuana-grow-rooms/
Indiana has a better climate for it if you know what to look for. Picking the correct location is key, you could easily get 2000 pounds in one harvest from a couple acres outdoors. Processing is the only real draw back, harvesting, drying and curing are all labor intensive. You wouldn't want to process more than a ton of it at a time. That's not a bad business if you're lucky enough to possess the skills and patience to do it. Its not everyone's cup of tea.
Outdoor grow does not have the same potency as the medical grade indoor grown variety. The potent indoor stuff commands a high price and higher demand and thats why the medical dispensaries can charge obscene prices per gram. The best outdoor grow in the whole US comes from Cali, hands down.
Part I, BS
PArt II, BS
dipshit , hands down.
This is patently false. The reason for this is growers are genetically manipulating the strains to produce high THC plants in the environment they are growing them in. California has few natural cannabis groves, if any. A natural cannabis grove is a rare thing to find these days. Mostly it has to do with the taproot and the soil type that its in. I could take the best cannabis going right now, put it in its natural habitat and after a few years of freedom, this plants would be the best in the world. Hands down. Its been done in these parts before and it will happen again. I've seen California outdoor grows. You people are something special, I'll give you that much.
You forgot that Colorado has slapped a 28% tax rate on recreational pot sales. After growing expenses, there's a tax of about $161K.
At least here in Washington, the system is still experiencing growing pains. I think it'll be at least another 2-3 years before the market truly stabilizes.
Is Oregon's lower prices do to a lot of pot growing or lots of customers?
Is the climate good in parts or OR and WA state?
WA would seem to be too cold.
I have no interest in becoming a user or grower because I know pot killed Blue Boy.
Here in Oregon there is a burgeoning cottage industry in "home growing". Anyone with a steady habit knows how, and some take it seriously. Most legal growers, who are licensed to grow for medical permit holders (which has been a joke since medical use was legalized a few years back) grow a few extra plants and sell them off to friends.
Point is, a liquid and vibrant "black" market/home grow scene keeps the dispensaries honest. Since there is little to no risk in using the black market (the cops don't care; it's no big deal at all to see people walking down the street smoking a joint in downtown Portland at midday), most folks simply won't let the legal dispensaries gouge them. The only advantage the dispensaries really have is edibles and tinctures; and if you don't know how to make nice candy or cakes, the dispensaries are worth the price.
It's simple supply and demand. I cannot figure out, though, why the totally legal pot shops across the river in the Couve are so outrageously overpriced. My guess is taxes, as your average Warshington pol is a malignant little confiscator.
In Washington, you'll be dealing with the following as a producer, processor or retailer:
- You cannnot both produce/process and retail. You must choose one or the other.
- Retail shops have no COGS to deduct from their taxes, so basically all profit gets a ~35% hit.
- Best case scenario, you have a 25% excise tax from a producer/processor and a 25% tax at the retailer, plus WA sales tax, plus local tax.
- All producers, processors and retailers have to have 24/7 camera surveillance with 45 days of storage. Each camera must be covered by another camera, doubling the number of cameras.
- Marijuana liability insurance is required and is generally upwards of $10k / year for a modest operation.
- All plants, clones, seeds, etc. must be tracked in a state traceability system. That will run a producer/processor about $400 / mo and thousands in labor for data entry.
- Then, you've got to worry about your local regulators. Let's say the county commission decides to rescind your permit to grow marijuana because they have a come to Jesus moment. You're fucked.
- And that is just the tip of the iceberg. It is literally THE hardest industry to make a living in. If someone can make money in the WA I502 recreational marijuana system, they really know what the fuck they're doing.
- Oh, and everybody thinks they grow good dope. Very few can actually pull it off, especially in a mass-production environment.
Interesting info. Reminds me of how everyone things they can own a wine vineyward especially SillyCon Valley billionaires who want to retire and become big wine growers. Billionaires buy vineyards to make high end vinegar.
Creating a craft beer sports bar looks pretty easy compared to being a legal pot farmer.
I am curious if all this pot legalization has hurt beer and wine sales.
Thanks. Just from personal experience, marijuana reduces my interest in alcohol. I'm guessing that is true for most people. But, as the population continues to swell, I'm sure you'll see demand for craft beers continue to pick up regardless of competition from pot .. in times like this, people need a break from sobriety.
No and doritto sales are killing
Junked for corporate junk food recco.
legal weed, remember back in the 70's and early 80's how exciting, and dangerous feeling it was to score some weed, and how scary it was to sneak off and toke up a little.
that little thrill is gone forever, i was at an outdoor acoustic concert in asheville nc last august and cops were actually passing the joints across the walkdown steps in the amphitheatre, meanwhile my wife was afraid she would get arrested for smoking a cigarette.
Washington has an ass backwards system that allows the ZOG to charge $25/gram. But it doesnt matter since all of the real growers already ignore both the medical and recreational laws.
"If it burns, tax it. If it keeps burning, regulate it. And if it stops burning, subsidize it." ;-)
Well done nmewn.;-)
"...every little bit of incremental revenue would help..."
Sorry. Illinois is just too far gone to save.
i remember when dime bag actually cost $10 ... and ounce of really good weed, like fucking real 100% jamaican, cost $100 ... talk about fucking inflation.
In college I had a good conversation with an older guy who'd been in the business for a while. Apparently, an eighth had been around the same for almost two decades (~60, low as 50 for friends) and its only getting more potent. Thats price deflation over that term. From a quick google search:
"Since 1972, ElSohly says, the average THC content of marijuana has soared from less than 1% to 3 to 4% in the 1990s, to nearly 13% today."
A dime on the east coast would be a half gram (never heard of someone buying that little) so its still more expensive / THC content if your number is right but not nearly as bad as it sounds. Take out inflation and I wouldnt be surprised if the cost was the same.
Yea man, all the cool kids smoke weed, man. Like wow.
When I was in high school, a lid was $10 and a pound was $100.
Now I think its $80 an oz.
This is in Houston.
If it weren't for needing a paycheck, I'd be happy to do like Dutchboy2015 and toke till my brain bled...
me too. and the dime bag was a little manila envelope about 3x5 and folded in half. about 73? and it was better than oregano, but only just, lol
Mosttly stems
haha.. a brick went for 65 bucks in SF in the sixties, right off a Chinese freighter..
..at that price you could do alright.
I remember when a bag of chips or a chocolate bar was a dime and an oz went for $20. I am 60.
Should be no law against a man that wants to smoke a little dope.
Good pot was it back then JLM?
Hindsight (and good times) is $20.20.
Me too. I remember being pissed when people started charging $20 for a lid.
Yeah, put a lid on it...
Here's to you
Holy Shit I just found something that is cheaper in Canada!
Not a user, but curious how far an ounce will go?
There's 28.3 grams in an ounce...I'm not a heavy user by any means and I go through about a gram a day using my vaporizer.
28.7 You always weigh over so you don't die
Be sure to tip your nonspecific gendered alien congressthing on the way in.
What is it?
I don't know.
Let it in.
I was a user long ago. It depends on your equipment and your smoking practices. With my bong, I could stretch an ounce a looong time (over a month). I had a one hit bowl and a larger party bowl. Did not break out the party bowl much. My friends would come to my place when they were out. I would let them have 1, mind you, 1 bowl, toked up my way, and they knew it. They had to follow my instructions or they could not toke again at my place. I aways had it, because I did not waste it. I would also save resin, scrape seeds and stems, I was the queen of cheap. But I could always get you high. Hardly ever wasted it on a joint.
My friends also shared. That too helped me stretch it. The other thing is, if you are a chick, you should be able to get it for free more often than not. I mean free.
Chicks don't refer to themselves as chicks.
And when you get "it" for free, you're also going to get "it". The other "it".
No offense, but you don't have to screw guys to get stuff.
Mind you, that is not to say that weed was not provided by a committed partner, ever, in my past (it was), but men will share with you just to go out with you. Don't have to "put out." Just go out. It's a trip, some men will get status being seen with you. That is all they want. Others, yeah, they are hoping things develop, but meanwhile everyone is having fun. No harm. Never led anyone on, always told them where they stood. They still want to take you out, share their resources, no harm. Mind you this is me in my teens and early 20s. I would be really different if I was on the market now. But it was fun.
From the heart
what kind of man gets status from a woman. are you saying JFK got status from MM. JFK got MM because he had status.
this one does, and she could bat your balls clear out of the park and curl your toes in 3 shakes of a lambs tail
shhhhhh...you're going to blow the dudes cover.
This chick does. I have been called out for it by feminists. I am what you call a sex positive feminist. I do not view my sexuality as a form of oppression, but rather a potential site of empowerment.
What I don't like about the standard feminist take on this is that they assume that we (chicks) have "false consciousness" and only if we see it the way they do (that we are oppressed by men through sexuality) do we have a mature class consciousness. Pisses me off. Very nanny state. Meet the new objectification, same as the old objectification. You are not feminist if...it serves as a way to control folks.
For me, a mature feminism means that both men and women are free to express themselves how they are comfortable with and they need not be constrained by gender. I am okay with men in drag if that is what they want to do, I will even help with the makeup (its fun). BUT THAT MEANS IF A WOMAN WANTS TO ENACT TRADITIONAL FEMININE VALUES, SHE SHOULD NOT GET GRIEF FOR IT. And if she likes being a "chick" that should be okay too.
Hope that cleared that up.
Whateva nmewn.
Perseus son of Zeus has spoken!
Now see, like that Perseus you like to carry, I totally support that! You gotta be you with your purple, pink, bad assed, avatared self. Carry on, carry on.
see, i told ya. she's a hip chick
<3
Thanks.
woah - you just opened a can of modern political and philosophical whoopass...
Camille Paglia has a nice series of essays on this amusing subject.
"Chicks don't refer to themselves as chicks."
Uh.... yeah they do. It's use is very common, probably most prominently used by women under the age of 40 or mid 30's and is exceedingly common in the west.
Hmmm! Two cases of beer a week at $20/each. The economics might argue for learning how to smoke.
I'd like to see the heatmap and correlation between the weed price and how many billions each state spent on "teh war on drugs".
You can see states like Louisiana and Oklahoma where weed is akin to the devil having a bit of a higher markup.
A QP of ganja went for ~$350 back in the mid 80s. Havent seen or smoked ganja in years.
about 1980 in charlotte you could get a quarter of columbian for 100.00, get 3 friends to buy really nice oz/s for 35.00 and you got yours free and 5.00 gas money.
I remember when an ounce of weed was a lot more expensive than an ounce of gold.... THERE I SAID IT.
I thought buying silver was a good investment.
The Fed needs to start printing Fiat pot. Do it for the kids.
If pot were legal there would be less problems with that zombie drug ice thats for sure.
please...it's cannabis...and we paid $10 for a lid...
I'm getting ripped off :-/
JP need to sho't dat muffugga. Get dat down to realz.
fo shizzle
Niiiiiiice.
Thank goodness they've legalized it. With the tax revenue they can speed up the "Spray the Cucarachas Program 21.5!" Everybody knows the real money is in heroin! Kill two birds with one stone. The pot and the people. Win win winners!
i remember back in the late 70's down where the banana boats docked, you could get a non pleated baggy full of buds broken off at the length of the bag, completely full of lambsbreath from jamaica. we were use to columbian or gold columbian being the primo, one decent joint of this stuff would get 20 people stoned. cost 40.00. after two good tokes it was like you smoked 3 joints of gold bo all by yourself.
those were the days, charleston sc in the 70's
I don't like today's pot. I still enjoy smoking a joint with a good cocktail but the shit today is toos stong to do that. It's anti-social! One hit wonder weed doesn't lend itself to a slow evening of getting baked.
i agree atm, this hydro stuff is way, way, way to strong for me. i like a nice chill buzz, not to be stoned as a zombie for 6 hours.
Totally agreed, but high THC numbers are what's selling right now, so that's what growers grow .. plus people are developing crazy levels of tolerance.
wonder if a blue light in the rear window is as big a buzzkill as it was back in the 70's. if we had a good buzz back then the last place we wanted to be was in a car
Didn't someone here once tell a story about how once in MA he got pulled over and had a 6 pack of beer in the back seat, an ounce of pot, and a gram of coke in the glove box and was still let go????
fucking ted kennedy posts on zh? who knew!?
I have several ounces of seed from the late 60's - early 70's.
Last time I was in Amsterdam, I was told (at the Museum), that even though the survival rate was quite low, these were worth $$$$ because they had not been interbred.
The breeders are looking for pure stock, which is long gone.
So I had to do research for a city in California looking to allow a dispensary. ..the good stuff us $45/eighth ounce at.the dispensaries around santa cruz. ..street price is about the same or slightly higher.
In WA it's about $50/eighth for low grade.
Hell, I only want to grow from the best seedstock just to see how good I can be. I am a horticulturist and I love plants. I have not fired up in almost two years but that will change. So much for the addiction and "gateway drug" bullshit. I would love to fire up and chill out but not yet. I am proving a point. I like getting high and studying something, like say, my numismatic coins or etymology. I also like reading up on the history that the research results tell me. Going fishing or gardening is far more enhanced by some smoke for me. I won't answer my phone or anything like that. Anything more than two hits on a pinch-hitter is bullshit.
All the same, if you don't like it then don't do it and then don't preach to me about how I am a drug addict.
California Proposition 19, AKA: Regulate, Control & Tax Cannabis Act, was defeated by the California voters on November 2, 2010. The final vote was Yes: 4,597,684 No: 5,291,583
It was not susprising that most of the conservative counties voted against legalizing marijuana, but what was surprising was that counties in the "Emerald Triangle," such as Humbolt and Mendocino, known far and wide for producing some of the finest cannabis in the world, and home to countless hippies, voted against legalization. The growers knew it would lower the value of their product so they put the word out to vote no.
http://fresnocannabis.org/prop-19-election-results-by-county/
Soros put a mill on it and was setting up to be the one and only kingpin. Thats why it was voted down.
If you believe voting matters.
Smoke up everyone. Then the US gets productivity levels similar to that of Europe.
MOAR SOSHALIST EWTOPIA!!
Europe (northern) has low unemployment and is debt free,
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/21...
Those prices are insane compared to Canada...
I guess I'm glad I don't smoke pot anymore. Nothing against pot, I just don't want to mess with my lungs anymore.
So you eating it or using a vaporizer?
i remember a blind older college student at a college in north carolina that had glaucoma. he legally got weed. sent to him by the federal government in a tin box. they were machine rolled in blue paper and had a serial number on each of them.
i hit them a couple of times and it was primo good stuff, tasted great and gave a great buzz.
the government was growing it somewhere along the mississippi i think it was missouri. that was about 79, for the time it was extra primo good stuff, as cheech and chong sang, no stems no seeds that you don't need, government blue is bad assed weed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-13_(cannabis)
Haven't been into street weed since college. OMG that was over 40 years ago! But now that it is legal in WA I have tried a few flower strains in a PAX vape and some insanely potent liquid in a Vuber pen vape. Vaporizing is mild on your lungs - I can't take actual smoke anymore and I don't want a big ass bong on hand to invite questions from, well, nevermind... If your lungs can't handle burnt weed, vape it.
It's interesting to observe the clientele in the weed shops - they are of all ages, and there's plenty of white hair like mine..!
I have to say, what we could get back in the 60's was rather like catnip and oregano compared to this new 'government weed'... One mere toke of top quality 'government weed' is WAAAAAY plenty. If you dare more, it will blow your freaking socks off. It is not like anything I've known short of pure psychedelics. Of course, after all these years I've become a lightweight... but just sayin'.
I'm no shill for WA tourism, but y'all might want to plan your summer vacations accordingly...
No Motto
Evidently you were never in Vietnam or Thailand during the war. Key of thai stick -35 bucks, all flowers. Also OJ (opium cured). The Sergeants Association of the USAF helped the girls orphanage outside of DaNang. Coincidentally those girls bagged the weed for us.
True Story. not to mention the Friday night T-39 flights from Laos by Air America to bring in the ''horse'. 95 percent pure.
One guy in supply send the smack to his GF in NYC, via mail. packed in envelope and wrote ''Do not bend , photos enclosed''. He bought new Datsun 240Z CASH.
All this pot talk is giving me the munchies. Would have to be the best of the best to pay $200 an ounce so some folks are being sheared and that's not cricket among fellow tokers.
Weed or Cannabis prices have remained unchanged for 20 years, FACT
Uncle Charles price has deflated by 33% over 10 years, FACT
Whoever carried out the survey must be smoking something or been ripped off.
i want to see this kush you get for 2 a zip
At 40, I'm so lame I couldn't score a bag if I had too...i
Prolly for the best. Shit never worked well with my wiring and made me way too introspective.
Now....I'd give my right nut for a shroom contact, though.
In the late 60's I was pulled over in Chicago for going too slow. (20 mph in 70 zone). Cops asked me ''have you been smoking pot''? I said ''Pot? I wouldn't touch that shit'' in my best southern redneck accent. He said what are you doing in Chicago with Nebraska plates. I told him looking for my cousins house. Cops says ''Whats your cousins name?. I told him Wendell Kistler, He says ''I know him, follow me I will show you where he lives''. This is a true story. I was laughing my ass off while following. still rushing from the weed. I had short hair and was in the USAF at the time.
Recently got some very good stuff for $1300/lb. It smells heavenly, sticky fingers, I cut it with scissors to fit in my small pipe and it's almost like cutting hash. Very good quality couch lock stuff. I would guess this stuff came out of CO. Fresh, not compacted in a press like the South of the border imported weed. Also had some sensi-bud for about the same price, a little lower iirc. $300/oz in TX? Laughable. Someone's dealer is taking advantage.
An oz/month keeps the wife and I happy.
I scored a piece of hash in Thailand back in 1970. 2 dollars, it was so perfumy you could smell it a mile away. Texture of chocolate fudge deep dark inside and light brown on the outside., one sliver would get you almost tripping for 12 hours.
83......., -- your's are the only realistic price reports so far. The price reports shown on the map must be based on per cigarette, retail.
This photo was taken in 2003 in Bangui, Central African Republic. Bought this bag of weed for 5 US dollars. When the kid brought me the weed I looked at him incredulously. He said ''Whats the matter, Mister, is 5 dollars too much''?
Next day we flew their President and his entourage to Niger for a conference. Me, the Captain, and Co-pilot were still rushing at takeoff. What a rush. LOL
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nre8ygju6q6f8al/Bowl%20of%20Weed.JPG?dl=0
as a side note, in Africa you can get away with lots of things. WE dropped down once from 30,000 feet to skim over the jungle to take photos of elephants.
While at DaNang AB Vietnam 71-72 we had a room in the barracks made into a kind of opium den with blacklights etc, (F-4 avionics troops).
We got a big water pipe with 6 hoses and fitted them with oxygen masks from aircraft.
One lid fit into the bowl. Of course lots of weed bits and pieces all around the floor.
One day we had monthly inspection by Squadron Commmander (Colonel).
He left us a note ''' I will let this slide but for heavens sake clean up a little and don't make it so obvious''.
He knew that if he was to bust everyone he would have NO ONE to fix the aircraft.
We had an F-4 jock that used to take bong it before a flight and drop his bombs into the East China Sea. They DID bust him.,
Shows there are still good people in the world.
Anyone remember from Vietnam the ''eat this stamp'' after reading type letter from a girlfriend? Make sure you have at least 12 hours off and be with someone you trust.
.....you're a funny-fucker dutchboy.
.....i got some funny stories too.....
the bar just off of the AlbertKulpstraas late '70s.....speeled something like that......cheers x- in sweden
So was it the brown acid that turned you into a complete cunt?
We called people like IndyPat downers. Thanks for your bummer buzzkill. No sun grown for you in my crash pad.
Only dropped twice and it was the pure LSD-25. No brown or blotter acid.
Not something to play around with.
Ah did not inhale, Ah did not like it ........ hey bogart, over here! Memory lane makes for a nice communal feel here without the usual acrimony. See, all good as we face into the wind. Man, the stories we could all tell and truth be known it has been a great ride, eh ?