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"If The Public Knew About Obama's Lies And Cover Ups, Mitt Romney Might Be President" - Judicial Watch

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When it comes to the countless lies of this administration (and that of the next one under Hillary Clinton) one has to just throw in the flag.

Days after Seymour Hersh exposed the biggest lie of Obama's first term, a lie which we learned was also facilitated and perpetuated by the CIA as well (the topic of the latest Frontline documentary "How the CIA Helped Make “Zero Dark Thirty”"), we get yet more evidence of the administration's lies this time on a topic dear - and sensitive - for the person who may well be the next US president, Hillary Clinton, who as a reminder made up a story that the September 11, 2012 Benghazi embassy attack was a product of spontaneous protests of an obscure YouTube documentary by an American producer that lampooned Muslims.

Only later did the administration concede that the attack was a terrorist operation.

And now, according to a declassified Defense Department document obtained by Judicial Watch we learn that the Obama administration knew that "al Qaeda terrorists had planned the Benghazi attack ten days in advance." Then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other senior level individuals including then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Obama White House National Security Council were given intelligence within hours of the Benghazi attack describing how it had been planned at least 10 days in advance “to kill as many Americans as possible.”

The heavily redacted Defense Department “information report” says that the attack on the Benghazi facility “was planned and executed by The Brigades of the Captive Omar Abdul Rahman (BCOAR).”  The group subscribes to “AQ ideologies:”

The attack was planned ten or more days prior on approximately 01 September 2012. The intention was to attack the consulate and to kill as many Americans as possible to seek revenge for U.S. killing of Aboyahiye ((ALALIBY)) in Pakistan and in memorial of the 11 September 2001 atacks on the World Trade Center buildings.

“A violent radical,” the DIA report says, is “the leader of BCOAR is Abdul Baset ((AZUZ)), AZUZ was sent by ((ZAWARI)) to set up Al Qaeda (AQ) bases in Libya.”  The group’s headquarters was set up with the approval of a “member of the Muslim brother hood movement…where they have large caches of weapons.  Some of these caches are disguised by feeding troughs for livestock.  They have SA-7 and SA-23/4 MANPADS…they train almost every day focusing on religious lessons and scriptures including three lessons a day of jihadist ideology."

One can see why Clinton is allergic to any hearings on the Benghazi killings nearly three years after the event: she lied about the entire affaird during countless sworn testimonies, and as a result has been haunted from the first lie she uttered to avoid looking incompetent. A lie which may be very costly for the nation as it prepares to elect its next president.

There was more in the Judicial Watch disclosure: the DOD documents also contain the first official documentation that the Obama administration knew that weapons were being shipped from the Port of Benghazi to rebel troops in Syria. An October 2012 report confirms:

Weapons from the former Libya military stockpiles were shipped from the port of Benghazi, Libya to the Port of Banias and the Port of Borj Islam, Syria. The weapons shipped during late-August 2012 were Sniper rifles, RPG’s, and 125 mm and 155mm howitzers missiles.

 

During the immediate aftermath of, and following the uncertainty caused by, the downfall of the ((Qaddafi)) regime in October 2011 and up until early September of 2012, weapons from the former Libya military stockpiles located in Benghazi, Libya were shipped from the port of Benghazi, Libya to the ports of Banias and the Port of Borj Islam, Syria. The Syrian ports were chosen due to the small amount of cargo traffic transiting these two ports. The ships used to transport the weapons were medium-sized and able to hold 10 or less shipping containers of cargo.

The DIA document further details:

The weapons shipped from Syria during late-August 2012 were Sniper rifles, RPG’s and 125mm and 155mm howitzers missiles.  The numbers for each weapon were estimated to be: 500 Sniper rifles, 100 RPG launchers with 300 total rounds, and approximately 400 howitzers missiles [200 ea – 125mm and 200ea – 155 mm.]

The heavily redacted document does not disclose who was shipping the weapons, however we do know what happened to US weapons sent by unknown sources to Yemen rebels: they are now being used to kill US-supported coalition forces.

The State Department has yet to turn over any documents from the secret email accounts of Hillary Clinton and other top State Department officials.

Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton summarized this latest round of hard fought revelations - which should have been a matter of public record from day one for the most transparent administration ever - as follows:

“These documents are jaw-dropping. No wonder we had to file more FOIA lawsuits and wait over two years for them.  If the American people had known the truth – that Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and other top administration officials knew that the Benghazi attack was an al-Qaeda terrorist attack from the get-go – and yet lied and covered this fact up – Mitt Romney might very well be president. And why would the Obama administration continue to support the Muslim Brotherhood even after it knew it was tied to the Benghazi terrorist attack and to al Qaeda? These documents also point to connection between the collapse in Libya and the ISIS war – and confirm that the U.S. knew remarkable details about the transfer of arms from Benghazi to Syrian jihadists,” stated Tom Fitton, Judicial Watch president.  “These documents show that the Benghazi cover-up has continued for years and is only unraveling through our independent lawsuits. The Benghazi scandal just got a whole lot worse for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.”

He may be right: as the WSJ reported moments ago, Hillary's aides openly scrutinized, and even blocked release of documents requested under public-records law, openly flaunting their legal responsibility to the American people:

When Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, her staff scrutinized politically sensitive documents requested under public-records law and sometimes blocked their release, according to people with direct knowledge of the activities.

 

In one instance, her chief of staff, Cheryl Mills, told State Department records specialists she wanted to see all documents requested on the controversial Keystone XL pipeline, and later demanded that some be held back."

And yet... ladies and gentlemen, presenting the next US president.

 

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Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:34 | 6111948 Kokulakai
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Joe Wilson knew.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:37 | 6111963 keremetski
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Does she sleep with Victoria Nuland?

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:47 | 6111997 knukles
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When that crap was said about the video that "caused" the attacks, I went straight to YouTube and noted it only had about 4,000 hots to that point in time. 
Right.

Aaaaaaaarrararararrraaarrrrrrggggggghhhhhh!

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:49 | 6112001 General Decline
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Right Vs. Left Bullshit.  Boring

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:52 | 6112013 Usurious
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correct........if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.....

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:04 | 6112024 Deathrips
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Echo Chamber, echoing forever...

"its one man!"

 

Its for the children.....make it stop!!

 

RIPS

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:18 | 6112107 Relentless101
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Cunt.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:28 | 6112143 trulz4lulz
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Jesus...I guess since they figured "Fuck it, no one cared or paid attention then, let's do Ukraine next." I just can't even right now. Lol.....fuck it all..no one is going to stop these psycho's......truly are we all in hell? We sure act it sometimes.

 

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:34 | 6112166 Comte de Saint ...
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Definitively ZeroHedge is going down the drain posting this nonsensical bullshit, who gives a crap for such article.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:51 | 6112236 Coletrane
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when you spend all your time deepthroating obama's dong, you've got no right to complain when he gives you something that leaves a bad taste in your mouth......

 

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 23:06 | 6112267 greenskeeper carl
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i guess we can chalk this up to another conspiracy theory being true. They were moving weapons from libya to the syria rebels(ISIS) and the US gov knew about it and didnt do anything to stop it, which means they were tacitly approving. Many have speculated they were activily facilitating these weapons transfers. But either way, clinton and obama can no doubt count on continued media coverups, I highly doubt this will stop billary.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 23:35 | 6112327 Anusocracy
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So we could have had a Bibi Netanyahu wannabe instead of an Robert Mugabe wannabe and now we're heading for a Madam Mao wannabe.

Things are going swimmingly

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 00:16 | 6112399 Oh regional Indian
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Madam Mao and the Prince of Slime

Made it back 

To the house of crime.....

Tch...

https://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2015/05/19/sequence-21r/

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 00:26 | 6112416 McCormick No. 9
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Obama iied, Hillary lied, the MSM lied, for a while Trey Gaudy looked like a cheap obsessed Southern cracker...

Will this latest revelation make any difference, or will Hillary be able to say once again,

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 00:58 | 6112483 Urban Roman
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Remember that ISIS truck that said "Joe's Plumbing" or something on the door? What ever happened to that story?

I bet the WaPo is working on it right now. . . it'll be out in 2035 some time.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 06:26 | 6112805 Richard Chesler
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Obongo, Romney, Cankles...

What difference does it make?

 

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 01:16 | 6112507 Peelingtheonion
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PTI,

 

If anyone believes anything the government or the MSM report about anything of any consequence...needs to seek help...the best you'll get is half truths, ommissions,edited content or out right lies...this kind of shit has been the norm long before anyone who visits this site was born...the FOIA, and maybe a "real leak" every now and then...is about as much has we'll ever get to the truth....so resign yourself to that fact and back to critical thinking...it's all we really have....   

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 08:40 | 6113011 SoilMyselfRotten
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Remember 2004 when at the behest of the Bush Adm. the NY Times killed the story that they were spying on everybody? Guess we should thank the NY Times that Kerry wasn't President but this was shameless and it's to be expected from every constitutionless Adm.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 23:09 | 6112275 Bill of Rights
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Your breath reeks of dirty ass crack.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 02:39 | 6112525 Bay of Pigs
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How can Mitt fuckan Romney be any better....its comical.

Mr Flip Flop...

Edit: here you go you stupid fuckan down voting cocksuckers (20 minutes worth). This site is really going down the tubes....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0m_xXvQlvg

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 06:37 | 6112813 nmewn
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Ahhh c'mon BoP, we all know everything is a game, a dance performed by the same characters in different disguises.

Jeb or Hillary! Hillary! or Warren. Bernie or Lindsey fucking Graham, really?!?!?...lol.

Here we go, the NYT's tries some damage control for Hillary!...it was all Sidney Blumenthals fault or sumpin...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/us/politics/clinton-friends-libya-role-blurs-lines-of-politics-and-business.html?_r=0

...cuz the smartest woman on the planet, using her own private email account to pass around information on Libya as it relates to her job as Secretary of State, as it relates to making money in private business inside Libya, must "appear to be" beyond all ethical & moral reproach for her, so clearly Blumenthal needs to fall on his sword for what he's done to her.

The bastard...lulz.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 23:41 | 6112331 Jadr
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ZeroHedge is primarily a political and financial analysis news site which incorporates news aggregation site which generally sources its material from news websites which use primary sources as the foundation of the linked article.  The writers will also occasionally throw in random "pop-culture" current events articles.  It is largely a more focused Drudge Report with much deeper analysis than most articles Drudge aggregates.  ZeroHedge occassionally does original pieces which are usually in the financial realm.  Since ZeroHedge doesn't really have "boots on the ground" and the fact that the writers are pseudonymous means it is hard for them to break news in the political or foreign policy spheres. The writers will also at times post articles from dubious sources or people with viewpoints that are in opposition to the generally accepted positions of the site.  The site generally points out problems/scandals/lies/fraud/inefficiencies/unsustainability aspects of the global economy, governments, corporations and individual people. If you don't get this after a year+ of reading the site, you obviously don't read ZH very often.

The site generally points out these issues but doesn't really offer potential solutions or alternatives but there could be several motivating factors for this approach.  First of all, the sites owners and writers want to make money.  It is easier to make content that simply points out some aburdity of government and include some snark than it is to offer alternatives.  They may wish to keep the Fight Club theme a bit and let readers battle out the potential solutions in the comment section.  Maybe the writers don't have a consensus or perhaps they don't even really care.  The motivations will never be known except to the hidden owners and perhaps the writers.  While there is no manifesto of the beliefs of the site, an astute reader would pick up on libertarian leanings and perhaps an Anarcho-<insert ideology> slant. 

You have had a registered account for a little over a year and had probably at most read the site for a year before registering (like myself), but you obviously don't read the site that much if you think this article is "nonsensal bullshit".  It is definitely in the "wheelhouse" of information that ZeroHedge covers and is deserving of coverage.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 09:05 | 6113084 forexskin
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+1

i sometimes learn more from the comments than from the articles - that is part of point here.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 00:09 | 6112382 Dolar in a vortex
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Go back to Salon, you'll be among friends.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 02:20 | 6112577 GoldenDonuts
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You should give a shit if you would like leadership that knows the truth, gives a shit about the people who elected them.  What a fucking dumbass.  Go read wsjonline and live in the matrix you fucking moron.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 13:27 | 6114056 Icelandicsaga.....
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You must live in Romania Comte or maybe Translyvania .. this bullshit resulted in ISIS and thousands of deaths .. maybe does not matter to you and those like you . but it exposes the shadow govt. the powers the be and the US State Dept and other agencies for what they are .. the deep state out of control lunatics.. congress will do nothing . neither will the courts . but somewhere someone is keeping track of this . and when the end point comes . it will be remembered and those responsible dealt with. In another society this might have resulted in a military coup . but given the military was in on this HORROR that is not likely. Sooner or later .. justice will prevail .. with this much bad karma on US shoulders.. blowback will be the biggest bitch in US history.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 04:54 | 6112709 Bangin7GramRocks
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RETREAD CLICKBAIT! For shame ZH!

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:18 | 6112108 LianaKaulitz
Wed, 05/20/2015 - 01:22 | 6112518 BlackChicken
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"One can see why Clinton is allergic to any hearings on the Benghazi killings nearly three years after the event: she lied about the entire affaird during countless sworn testimonies, and as a result has been haunted from the first lie she uttered to avoid looking incompetent. A lie which may be very costly for the nation as it prepares to elect its next president."

NB: Bitch lied under sworn testimony; throw her fat ass in prison.

NB2: lied to avoid looking incompetent; there isn't a lie big enough to pull that off.

That creature is unfit at any speed, in any position, for any reason.
Fuck you Hillary...

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:32 | 6112160 Harbanger
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It's obvious that the MSM has been covering up Obamas' fuckups since his election in 2008.  There is this veil of secrecy that we've never seen with any other president.  The question is why.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:44 | 6112207 gtb
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Affirmative action?

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 09:15 | 6112261 ThroxxOfVron
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The Fourth Estate has long since been captured.

DId you think that those who took control of it were gonna print headlines about it?

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 08:23 | 6112963 marathonman
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Why the veil of secrecy?  Because people would never have voted for a slimy corrupt gay black man whose 'real' father was a communist activist.  The rest was just clever marketing and having a new angle of being able to play the race card to everyone criticizing the new black president.  He was owned by Goldman Sachs from way back in the day.  He is still owned by them as are most - all - Presidents.  With Barack they just had to work extra hard to polish the turd.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 00:02 | 6112369 TBT or not TBT
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They worship government.  They're reflexively progressivist on every issue.  

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 00:16 | 6112397 Zapporius
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What do you mean why? The question is, why do you think it's any different than it was in Rome? Your official buildings are roman architecture. Duh.

Why have plebes when you can have slaves? Evolution of slavery. Back then, the slaves knew they were slaves and if they could only run and survive out there dodging roads and patrols for a week or two, they might make it. Nowadays, slaves don't even know that they are slaves, and there is soon nowhere to run, unless you can breathe under water.

Courtesy of Edward Bernays, Church, School, Parents, TV, etc.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 08:06 | 6112932 Refuse-Resist
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Sealed college records? Really?

 

I've had to submit my transcripts to APPLY for a $40k a year job.

 

And nobody thinks this secrecy is unusual or is trying to hide something that would damage O'savior?

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:24 | 6112067 Creepy A. Cracker
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"if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle....."

She'd be Chaz Bono and you'd have a really eff'd up family.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 04:12 | 6112674 janus
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yeah, and her/his mom dated (or possibly briefly married...i can't remember anymore) our boy, Greg Allman.  

her/his father -- sonny -- was a congressman.  he died in a skiing accident (i'm not going to suggest anything, but skiing accidents are a great way to go when blunt-force-trauma would normally be a suspect incident).

sonny met cher when she was thirteen in nevada or california or somewheres else equally hip & arid; whatever the case, it was statutory.

i recall they had a sitcom/variety-show thingy, and through it a daughter.  that daughter didn't take to dresses -- seemed to prefer slacks; so-much-so that she made a lifestyle and livelihood outta gender-warping.

greg used to slip off on long benders...seems cher would tolerate a hermaphrodite as daughter and not a ramblin-man for husband.  

but that all was long after Dwayne ate a peach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYevVzLGqbY&index=1&list=PLWnVxuqvY7Jgwu...

hurricanes runnin after subway trains,

janus

 

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 23:30 | 6112318 Temporalist
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If your aunt had balls in this day and age she'd be your mother or sister or possible the trangender neighbor.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:29 | 6112154 Omen IV
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Boring - then you are a Moron !

This is called Systemic Treason: Bush - Cheny - Obama - Clinton(s)

at every juncture:

TPP - Obama - Lies

Snowden - Obama Lies

Saran Gas Syria - Obama Lies

Benghazi - Clinton Lies

Iraq - Cheney Lies

Bush - 911 Lies

The Bill of Rights and America is under attack from Washington DC!

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 08:08 | 6112936 Refuse-Resist
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It ought to be obvious right now that they really do "hate us for our freedom" and work tirelessly every day to demolish it.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:35 | 6112175 Cruel Aid
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I wouldnt say boring.

Absolute lack of control.

The word is hopeless

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 04:45 | 6112705 janus
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CA,

The word is hopeless.

i think you meant "world", but, far from it.

it's always darkest right before the dawn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNMk0XGa0bQ

time to write new legends...but live them first.

janus

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 13:35 | 6114089 Trogdor
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You mean to say that someone actually thinks Romney as president would have somehow improved things? LOLLOL  They're both owned by the same "massa" - Right vs. Left Bullshit is right....

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 01:08 | 6112496 OldPhart
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I must have been earlier than you,..when I saw it, after the annoucement, it had less than 300 views.

To this day it was the stupidest, cheeseist, crappiest, shittiest video of all time.  Fuck, the actors beards were damn near peeling off.  But that's what happens when you have italian women portrait arab women.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 04:32 | 6112690 janus
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OldPhart,

green-arrow and all...i likewise found the vid to be comic in extremis.  but 'italian' women?

in the first place, italian women haven't any need of fake beards, they need only give up shaving for lent; in the second place, there is a difference between the hook and the aquline nose -- observe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi7fiihHXNA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwvvHn9pxzM

janus

 

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 05:07 | 6112722 3Wishes
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Does @POTUS know.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:14 | 6112087 Miffed Microbio...
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I don't think she does sleep or has sex. Just looking at her picture make me think she is a corpse re-animated by supernatural forces. It appears Black Magic must be in the psychopathic arsenal.

Miffed

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:18 | 6112106 willwork4food
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Just looking at her witch-dyed hair and reptilian features makes me want to drink more.

"The heavily redacted document does not disclose who was shipping the weapons, however we do know what happened to US weapons sent by unknown sources to Yemen rebels" 

unbelievable. Any bets that those that paid for and shipped them begins with the letter i?

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 01:11 | 6112498 OldPhart
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"Just looking at her witch-dyed hair and reptilian features makes me want to drink more."

 

Just looking at her witch-dyed hair and reptilian features makes me to drink more.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 23:30 | 6112317 Oldwood
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She probably sustains herself by sucking the life force from small reptiles and large insects.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 06:11 | 6112793 scrappy
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Very perceptive Miffed,

Bride of Frankenfood: Hillary Clinton pushes GMO agenda... hires Monsanto lobbyist... takes huge dollars from Monsanto

http://www.naturalnews.com/049755_Bride_of_Frankenfood_Hillary_Clinton_M...

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 01:59 | 6112559 Zapporius
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neh just drink blood together.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 02:46 | 6112603 exomike
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"Does she sleep with Victoria Nuland?"

 

No, Hillary couldn't sleep with Victoria Nuland. Victoria Nuland only sleeps with operational Ukrainian Nazis who have the same ideology and bear a resemblance to Stephen Bandera. Nuland prefers Nazis who are also actively practicing ethnic cleansing. 

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 07:23 | 6112868 DanDaley
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Sort of...but they don't sleep.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 08:04 | 6112925 overmedicatedun...
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bot warning:

juggalo1, jamaicajim,pumpkin,systemofdrown,bangin7gram,exomike...all address the issue as dem vs gop.

not once does the information matter, the content of the thread. only efforts to deflect blame..

much like eirik, who's only mind set is racism everywhere even if the thread is about some obvious criminal, it's still racism to ol bot eirik..

a bot can only sprout programming, new information is never processed. sad and worthless posters.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:38 | 6111965 TeamDepends
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Romney won the election, so egregious and widespread was the vote fraud.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:29 | 6112153 Took Red Pill
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and Al Gore won too.  Would things have been much different? See article from earier today;

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-19/why-you-should-vote-nobody

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:39 | 6112193 Cruel Aid
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Need a genuine write in vote vs not voting at all. imo

Thats what i will probably do at this rate.

 bush clinton, lol 

Not gonna do it... spoken in dana carvy voice doing Dad bush

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 01:21 | 6112516 OldPhart
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In California, all positions have a write in option.

I'll admit that I go to vote, these days, for local shit.  At State and Federal Level, I write in: "None of the fucking above, are you shitting me?"

As far as I'm concerned, there is no hanging chad, no question on if I meant to vote, and no question that I accidently 'forgot to mark'.

We have a civic duty to our community.  The State and Federal Governments can continue to go fuck themselves into wars that we will cheer for after their defeat.

NSA/FBI, Yes, I advocate SEDITION against our war criminal government.  You already know my address.  You've been here, sne danother agent to try to be intimidating.  We both know who is going to ultimatly hang (yeah, me first, then countless others of you).  You know where I am, bring it.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:47 | 6112221 TeamDepends
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Just pointing out the insane amount of fraud is all (people voting five times, 107% of registered voters voting in a precinct- all for Obama), and not a peep from MSM.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 07:53 | 6112902 Took Red Pill
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Agreed! It's happened more than once before and it will happen again.  Diabold electronic voting machines are easily manipulated. Then there's gerrymandering. Also I'm not saying I wanted Gore. either. Just pointing out both sides have done it and it doesn't make much difference who gets in (to us anyway).

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:54 | 6112245 brown_hornet
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NOBODY cares for YOU.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 23:36 | 6112330 stant
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Moot point skynet is operational now. Just look at the Capitol building . Looks like the death star

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 00:00 | 6112362 williambanzai7
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Wed, 05/20/2015 - 01:45 | 6112545 Yes We Can. But...
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Now THAT is fucking disturbing.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 00:51 | 6112470 OldPhart
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As an American, I'll chip in a dollar for every Senator, Supreme Court Justice, or any in the White House...all the way up...that successfully blows their heads off.  Actually they aren't worth my two cents, but their damage to our country puts a premium on the price.  Lessee how that cashes in...um, 100 Senators, Nine Supremes, 1 President, about another thousand Presidential cock-suckers...my total expense would be around $1,110.

And, oh, yes, NSAGUY/FBIGUY, I WOULD Pay.  I really DO want our war criminal "government" to fall, by any means necessary.  (You already have my address, come back for another visit.)

As a "successful" american thousandairre I could afford that one time expense.  I'm sure there are countless others that could double, triple or jackpot my offer.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 01:21 | 6112515 AGuy
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As Hillary once said: "What difference does it make" [if Romney got elected?] Romney would just be a white version of Obama. Same liee, just White&Red instead of Black&Blue. If Romney was elected, we would still have Obamacare (ake RomneyCare), We still would have QE (Romney is a Wall Street man), The Middle east would still be a disaster, TTP would still be rammed down, etc. Nothing would have changed. Its like on the simpsons: you can vote for Kang or Kodos. It really would not have made a difference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treehouse_of_Horror_VII#Citizen_Kang

 

 

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 01:24 | 6112519 OldPhart
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No shit?

When there's a rebellion against goobermint, will it be against one faction, both factions, or the owners?

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:34 | 6111949 SafelyGraze
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"If the American people had known .. that the Benghazi attack was an al-Qaeda terrorist attack from the get-go .. Mitt Romney might very well be president."

wow. chilling.

what if the american people had known that the al-q was a fiction reified by a dogma funded by a blackbudget administered by a continuity-of-governance

shocking. 

absolutely shocking.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:02 | 6112047 trulz4lulz
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Let me off this crazy train!!!! This is quite the development, really. But then again there is always a fall guy.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:14 | 6112088 willwork4food
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Pardon me. THEY dont know who shipped the arms?

Really? Give me a fucking break.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 10:55 | 6113471 Grimaldus
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Hillary Clinton shipped those arms. She responded to a call by the "rebels" (actually Al Qaeda) in Benghazi for "help" because Qaddafi rightfully had them against the ropes. Al Qaeda duped Hillary Clinton with some stupid "genocide" story that she fell for hook line and sinker.

Not only did Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama save Al Qaeda from defeat by Qaddafi, they fucking spawned ISIS and destroyed Syria as well as eventually Libya.

These are crimes against humanity for which immeditae arrest, prosecution and execution is mandated.

And then Hillary let the Ambassador and other Americans die to cover up the her personal policy backfire that was Al Qaeda's attack on the American Consulate. The bitch is a certified murderer and destroyer of nations. Bloody hands Hillary.

Anyone supporting her is aiding and abetting a criminal.

Grimaldus

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 00:53 | 6112473 OldPhart
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What if the American People knew that 9/11 was orchestrated in Saudi Arabia instead of Butt Fuck Afghanistan?

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 01:13 | 6112504 Socratic Dog
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Far more likely our close ally israel.  Those were Mossad agents dancing in the streets. It was jews who were warned to stay away from WTC.  Doesn't sound like saudis to me.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 13:51 | 6114137 Icelandicsaga.....
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No matter what . .the Saudis were the money bags that funded 911 .. dancing jews or not . .so trying to make this an Israeli deal.. only on the margins.. hundreds of jews died on 911 . Cantor Fitgerald being he hardest hit ... About 500 died that day .. , which is 15-17% of the total victims. It would have been higher but every September extra prayers, called Selichot, are added before Yom Kippur. As a result, many Orthodox Jews left for work about an hour late. Remember the date . Sept. 11 was the day Polish King Jan Sobieski defeated the Ottoman Turks at the Gates of Vienna .. I am not a fan of Israel . but am not so blind by hatred to think they are behind every bit of shit that happens in the world.. I would say they would prefer Assad out .. he is there sworn enemy . in that case .. screw Israel .. they do not deserve support to topple Assad . given he is the last secular leader left in the area who has any balls.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 06:39 | 6112818 cnmcdee
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The Rothschild's drank champagne from across the harbor as they toasted the collapse of the towers.

And they will celebrate again when the Muslim Commander n Thief brings about martial law which will only apply to patriots and non-muslims. Muslims not specially protected? They have been for ten years aka Bin Laden family flights.

If people want to make every excuse that their actions don't matter, that they have no power and their vote doesn't matter may wish they had. They may really wish they had when their children and wives are taken for sodomite slaves in a foreign land..

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 06:39 | 6112819 cnmcdee
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The Rothschild's drank champagne from across the harbor as they toasted the collapse of the towers.

And they will celebrate again when the Muslim Commander n Thief brings about martial law which will only apply to patriots and non-muslims. Muslims not specially protected? They have been for ten years aka Bin Laden family flights.

If people want to make every excuse that their actions don't matter, that they have no power and their vote doesn't matter may wish they had. They may really wish they had when their children and wives are taken for sodomite slaves in a foreign land..

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 04:41 | 6112702 Bro of the Sorr...
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hey stop posting your "conspiracy theories". im trying to graze (safely) and youre fucking it up

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:34 | 6111950 BullyBearish
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If only the reporters holding the Snowden documents would tell us EVERYTHING...NOW!

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 05:58 | 6112779 AmericanFUPAcabra
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Snowden is a fucking psyop in his own right. Stop putting this fucking tool on a pedestal. None of his 'revelations' were new to the public. Anything he released was already spilled by whistleblowers in 03', 04' and 07'.  Way to pigeonhole yourself into another fucking corner.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 08:10 | 6112938 Refuse-Resist
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Yes and I believe it's called a "limited hangout" or something.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:35 | 6111951 Cruel Aid
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Bullshit, we knew. They would win every time.

So screwed here

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:49 | 6112002 i_call_you_my_base
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It was the fact that it occurred on 9/11 that tipped me off. But I'm really bright, so...

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:36 | 6111957 Stained Class
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"Fuck me, Fuck you, Fuck everybody..."

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:36 | 6111961 Bill D. Cat
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He's not .... And it would not not matter any way

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:37 | 6111962 Bennie Noakes
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Romney is just another head of the hydra.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:37 | 6111964 heisenberg991
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They fucking knew and let Americans die anyway. I just love the clown show in DC.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:38 | 6111968 CEOoftheSOFA
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She should hang in the electric chair!

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:34 | 6112172 SillySalesmanQu...
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I can at least think of a few charges she SHOULD BE indicted for:
Negligent manslaughter.
Conspiracy to conceal the facts before, during and after the event/crime.
Dereliction of duty as Secretary of State.
Obstruction of justice.
Contempt of Congress.
Perjury, many counts of.

Why isn't this contemptuious cunt in jail without bail yet...!?

Paging Eric Dickholder...

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 01:04 | 6112490 OldPhart
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She should be given bad acid.

Head caged with starving rats.

Submerged in water to check for witchcraft.

Tazered due to suspicion of 'whichcraft'...

Drawn from the depths of her depravity (and water) with thousand pound weights on her cankles,

Stretched from a limb of a tree or nearby streetlight by a rope connecting to the thousand pound wieghts.

While thus stretched, eviserated by every common passerby by use of a found tree branch or piece of broken glass,

And, during her death throes... a cattle prod is deeply inserted into her ass so as each shudder sends a shock.

I'm SOOOOO Looking forward to Hillary running, I'm going to cheer the Sirhan Sirhan moment.  I can only hope it takes out the entire fucking family. That will stop the dynasty idea pretty quick.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:40 | 6111973 Arthur Schopenhauer
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You might as well say Gordon Gekko would have been president. Would that have been any better?

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:48 | 6112228 gwar5
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"You can't be serious!!" -- John McEnroe

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:40 | 6111974 Dr. Bonzo
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Different actor, same agenda.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:40 | 6111975 blindman
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but if al q is cia then,
doesn't one have to reserve judgement
for a number of years? i mean,
the banksters have ordered it, perhaps,
so show some damn respect.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:41 | 6111981 Debeachesand Je...
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This entire crew that was/still involved with this oderous affair should be tried for obstructing justice and probably for manslaughter....

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:08 | 6112063 trulz4lulz
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No. They should be tried in an international court for supplying arms to terrorist organizations in support of a full scale civil war against a legitimate nation. The number of crimes this represents, if true, is astounding. These are crimes of international matters. Far above American law. This is no matter to be too cynical of. And I love being cynical.

 

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:35 | 6112174 Niall Of The Ni...
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No. They should be put down like the animals they are, the bodies burned and the ashes scattered.

Hillary didn't bother giving a fair trial to Vince Foster. Why the fuck should she get one?

For the historic record? Trust me, once the pictures of Bill's and Hillary's charred corpses reach the Internet and people are no longer afraid of them, you won't be able to spit without hitting someone with evidence of her crimes. Take care of Hillary and history will take care of itself.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:42 | 6111982 HYMN
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and were Mitt the President we may know of His lies and cover ups. As it worked out Mitts truth as he saw things, was his undoing. Lies and cover-ups, otherwise known as Politics.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 01:35 | 6112534 Bay of Pigs
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Who the fuck is down voting this....get your head out of your ass.

Mr Flip Flop Romney...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0m_xXvQlvg

 

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:43 | 6111987 Blopper
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Mitt Romney might have his own skeleton in the closet.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:44 | 6111989 blindman
Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:44 | 6111990 Chupacabra-322
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Bengazi was about funding, arming & training Al CIA duh terror organization. Period, end of story.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:53 | 6112017 SMG
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dont't forget about arming and helping I(CIA)IS too. 

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:28 | 6112142 DIgnified
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I thought it was about Iran running a smash and grab for their missing red crescent workers/Intel agents - which were unceremoniously released later in October. 

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:46 | 6111992 Playtime's Over
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Beee iotch

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:46 | 6111993 adr
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Through all of Hilary's life  what is a few more Americans dead at her hands. How many people have the Clinton's had killed? How many more will be killed?

She should have been hung 30 years ago for her crimes. She has got away with it for so long that she thinks she will always get away with it, like any sociopath.

You really think any of this is going to come up during the election? Even if it does it will just be swept under the rug like all of the Obama lies.

Obama was a test of what the general population could be manipulated into believing. Hilary will be proof to the handlers that they have won and will be free to put down all resistance to them.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:51 | 6112006 knukles
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I can't find the right site, but here's a short list of "the dead", aside for the wars, etc.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/clintonfriends/

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:59 | 6112038 e_goldstein
Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:12 | 6112077 knukles
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Bingo!  Thanks, bro!

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:33 | 6112164 e_goldstein
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No problem, Knuks.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:33 | 6112162 Totentänzerlied
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Strange that Fox News isn't all over this.

/sarc

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:47 | 6111998 i_call_you_my_base
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"A lie which may be very costly for the nation as it prepares to elect its next president."

Huh?

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:50 | 6112003 ChargingHandle
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They all play for the same team and we are the Washington Generals.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:52 | 6112012 p00k1e
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Collusion.  Will Jeb and Bone-man prosecute?

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 21:55 | 6112023 knukles
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Gotta tell y'all and no I'm not party to the red/blue syndrome.
Just a casual observer of the human condition, so watch, but see.
Jeb Bush said the other day that the Constitution doesn't give gay folks the right to marry.  Well, there the fuck he goes, losing those that think the Constitution limits federal power, not expands such, loses the gay community, tolerant folks and middle of the roaders, including a buncha Libertarian ilk as well.
So, once he's pandered to the religious neo-con right so to speak, he's lost enough votes that he's unelectable, meaning that Hillary can kill baby kittens on day time television and still be elected by a landslide.

Aaaaarrrarraragagagagahhhhhhhh

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:13 | 6112084 Oldwood
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The constitution does not grant ANYONE the right to marriage...or deny it.

THAT'S NOT ITS JOB.

Of course the supreme court doesn't see it that way.

Because of income taxes (which were not part of our constitution originally) they created all types of ways to divide, classify and legislate our every behavior. No states rights, no individual rights.because of money that THEY created, they claim right over ALL aspects of our lives.

Money is the leash they use to control us. Something that was supposed to be free, under no person or government's thumb, is now the rope around our neck.

We grouse and complain but few will do anything that actually costs them MONEY. There is no greater cause than one's own pocket....money.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 23:31 | 6112319 TheMeatTrapper
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This is the bottom line.

The "American" people do not give a shit about anything other than which half nigger bitch is shaking her booty on TeeVee, which football team, filled with black millionaire felons will win the game,  and which bachelorette will fuck which metrosexual, sweet smelling "man".

Throw in some secret agent shows where a slender, hot female secret agent saves the world and shows the clueless idiot white males how it's done, while flirting with the latest negro genius and top it off with a show where two white girls working as waitresses throw their pussy at anybody that walks by and are lauded as being hip and cool - and you have modern day America. Oh, I almost forgot the vampire shows. That's really trendy and cool. Let's fly around and do vampire stuff. The drama!

I walked into the lobby of a huge financial institution this morning to hear two young white males, I won't call them men,  discussing what to "buy" with their "credits" now that they had "achieved" the 33rd level armor in the online game they were playing. Fucking pathetic. 

Anybody that thinks one person in a hundered thousand gives a shit about Hillary's crimes is delusional. Most Americans can't spell crime. 

This country is so far gone, so far beyond hope - it's funny. It really is. 

 

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 00:44 | 6112458 zebrasquid
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It's mostly less bad than you say. But maybe not for long,
It's definitely not funny.
You present an effective vivid case, so I'm pretty depressed right now.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:11 | 6112039 Playtime's Over
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Yeah, the beeiotch got good men killed, lets point the finger at Romney.  Let's review. Who's likely to be POTUS and who is washed up? Who poses the real time threat to the nation.  Let's be sure to point out the shortcomings of the ex presidential nominee.  

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:03 | 6112040 I Write Code
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"If The Public Cared About Obama's Lies And Cover Ups, Mitt Romney Might Be President"

And wouldn't that be lovely.

ps - can't get strikethru or underline to work, wtf

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:07 | 6112052 khakuda
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Leaving politics aside, who had more managerial experience?  I feel bad for Mitt Romney.  He spoke the truth when he said 47% were takers and as a result, he lost.  Business person with some concept of how income statements and balance sheets work, experience as governor, seemingly a smart, well meaning and honest guy, well qualified and he couldn't win.  Now, we get either a political hack or an ex-first lady who did a few years of resume padding and has a penchant for lying.

If NYC could chose Bloomberg versus DeBlasio today, they would chose DeBlasio.  Oh crud, I just ruined my chances, too.

Go America!  We're f****d

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:26 | 6112134 Oldwood
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There is no place for business skills in the white house unless it is in how to buy influence. there is no need to understand balance sheets, debits and credits and accounts payable when money is infinite. The only thing important in politics is the skill of lying, of telling everyone what they want to hear while knowing they are being lied to, and still find it believable.

We may not know what the truth is bit we sure as hell know what a lie is, and the western world has been eating this shit up for decades and more. Honesty is a disability that should have its own classification with SSI.

The truth is poison and to prove it I challenge anyone hear to name one person of honesty and integrity that holds any position in public view and further challenge anyone to name a person who has spoken the truth publicly and not been even more publicly destroyed.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:39 | 6112190 khakuda
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Well, you are kind of making my point.  BS, lies, dirty campaigns sadly work and look at the mess we are in as a result.  As they say, the electorate gets the president it deserves - a BS artist instead of someone qualified with actual managerial skills.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:53 | 6112241 blindman
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you do arrive at the point
where and when managerial skills just
do not address the fundamental
problem. conception ......

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 23:35 | 6112326 TheMeatTrapper
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"I challenge anyone hear to name one person of honesty and integrity that holds any position in public view and further challenge anyone to name a person who has spoken the truth publicly and not been even more publicly destroyed"

Very true. The only candidate I have to offer Oldwood is my Senator - Jeff Sessions of Alabama. 

Not perfect, but in my opinion - a beacon for others to emulate. 


Wed, 05/20/2015 - 00:28 | 6112419 Dolar in a vortex
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I agree on Sessions and will offer Mike Lee and Ted Cruz as additional candidates.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 00:10 | 6112384 Zapporius
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Spot on. Shit it's even true in corporations.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:03 | 6112053 autofixer
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No.  Romney was rich and Obamao was not rich, yet.  There is war on women and dogs on car roofs and stuff.  Besides, "At this point Senator, what difference does it make!?"  Forward to 2016 or is it 1916?  

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:06 | 6112058 buzzsaw99
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it just doesn't matter who is president. it really doesn't.

Abandon all hope, ye who enter here. [/gates of hell]

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:25 | 6112132 JuliaS
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You mean the weatherman doesn't actually make the weather?

/sarc

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:42 | 6112203 buzzy_the_pirate_dog
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Were they not some like '60's neo-blackish-thug group or something ? /sarc /duh /rageagainstthemachine

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:49 | 6112231 cherry picker
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I hate to say it but you are right.

There is no use voting anymore.

Best thing to do is avoid them and keep a low profile.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:07 | 6112059 kowalli
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Is is enough for impeachment? for treason is not enough?

for fucking god, Can you stand up and ask why we are spending 600bn for military?

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:08 | 6112064 blindman
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the dollar demands it

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:27 | 6112140 Oldwood
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But which of them would cast the first stone?

They dare not.

The Republic is dying.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:10 | 6112071 Dumgoy
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Who gives a fuck, we'd be just as fucked and exploited by Israel and those that love it.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 00:30 | 6112424 Dolar in a vortex
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Finally someone blames the Joos! Puzzling why it took so long.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:13 | 6112076 Pancho de Villa
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Fucking Mormons...  They're probably worse than the US Zionists!

 

Antelope Island in the Great Salt Lake has a plaque, quoting Brigham Young saying something to the effect of, "Give Us ten years and we shall no longer have any quarrel with the US Government."

 

Instead of the American Indians, the Federales should have chased the Evil Sonofabotches down and Exterminated them! For a Really Creepy Experience, go to the Worlds Ugliest "Cathedral" and ask one of the overly helpful "elders" about his "sacred undergarments".

 

These Motherfuckers want nothing less than to Rule the World.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:21 | 6112117 willwork4food
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No, they just want YOU dead. Can't have a new enlightened society with tin foil hat wearers, don't cha know?

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:45 | 6112211 Oldwood
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Two types of people

Those who think they can coexist with others

Those who think they cannot.

Guess who wins....

There will always be those who see their survival dependent upon the domination of others. Few if any can do this alone so they will use religion or other ideologies to rally people around them, to support them in their quest of domination.

Those so insecure as to need this army of subordinates appear weak for it, but yet a small, unpleasant man like Hitler was able to kill and dominate millions. Those who only wanted a peaceful existence are long dead in their graves.

Reality is NOTHING of what we wish it would be. People have no idea how deeply their delusions go.

We have never had more people and psychopaths that now. We can talk peak oil and peak everything else, but what we face is critical mass. Too much bullshit, too much struggle for power and far too much technology to avoid an infernal combustion.

 

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:34 | 6112170 khakuda
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My bet is that you have never known any Mormons.  I grew up down the street from a Mormon family and they were nice, normal and hard working.  These are not Tom Cruise scientologists.  The only reason you knew they were mormon is that they had about a 100 kids.  I knew a few mormon guys in grad school and, once again, the only reason they stood out was because they were all married at 24 and had 2-4 kids each (on their way to 100).  If you could get one of those guys on your team to get a project done, you were a fool not to do it.  Smart, reliable, solid and all business.

Some religious groups tend to be clanish, but that doesn't mean you should assume bad things about them. Groups that have histories of getting persecuted tend to stick together.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:35 | 6112171 khakuda
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dreaded dupe post. sorry.

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:13 | 6112080 Playtime's Over
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Buzz is closer to the truth than I care to admit. 

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:21 | 6112114 Laddie
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"If The Public Knew About Obama's Lies And Cover Ups, Mitt Romney Might Be President"

Can JW be THAT naive? Seriously? The American public knew enough about Clinton yet they re-elected him, of course Ross Perot, who hated Bush, wanted to act the spoiler, and he did so.

Bob Dole, his great achievement was HELPING the Democrats, after we had STOPPED it, ram the Brady Bill through on the night before a holiday when they had only a handful of Senators there. THAT was the "good guy" BS.

Republicans now need such an exceptionally high share of the White vote to win (because Whites are a diminishing share of the electorate), that prospects are not good for Republicans getting the White House again for generations. If EVER again. Seriously.

Voter: 'The day of older white guy is kind of out'

Obama seeks to end immigration enforcement by local, state police
Recommendation from task force set up in wake of Ferguson riots
By Stephen Dinan and Ben Wolfgang- The Washington Times- Monday, May 18, 2015

The task force report said its recommendation about halting recruitment of state and local police for immigration enforcement stemmed from testimony by Maria Teresa Kumar, president of Voto Latino, an advocacy group.

Voto Latino didn't return a message seeking comment on the report, nor did the American Civil Liberties Union, whose immigrant rights project has challenged federal efforts to enlist state and local police.

Last week, the ACLU and the National Day Laborer Organizing Network released draft documents detailing the Obama administration's newest plans for working with state and local police.

"It’s now official. White Live’s Don’t Matter, and woe to anyone who thinks they do."
Community Forum Set in Response to ‘#White Lives Matter’ Flyers
Anne M. Amato, Connecticut Post, May 12, 2015

A community forum on racial issues is planned Sunday after flyers with the slogan–“#White Lives Matter”–were tossed onto local lawns and driveways last week.

The flyers’ slogan, an apparent response to the widely used social-media hashtag, #Black Lives Matter, prompted local officials and community activists to denounce the message.

“I am deeply concerned and disappointed that statements like this have found their way to Westport homes,” First Selectman Jim Marpe said in a statement last Friday. “This kind of racial ugliness has no place anywhere, and certainly not in Westport.”

Stark Reaction to #WhiteLivesMatter Flyers at Forum

“To me it was pretty clear that these were not an innocuous prank,” said Westport News columnist and 06880 blogger Dan Woog*, who helped guide the discussion. “This was definitely a racist flyer.”

Andrew Tartaglia of Milford, however, voiced a different view. “I’m not sure I understand the racially charged motive,” he said, rhetorically asking if the flyers had referenced Hispanic lives or Jewish lives, would a similar public forum have been convened.

“Was anybody invited here to educate us about the Constitution (and) freedom of speech?” he said. “To me it was a simple statement. No one was threatened.”

“The problem with it is it’s scary and it’s hard to name why,” explained Beth Negron of Fairfield, who has black relatives. “There’s a fear there of white supremacists (and) I’m not sure I can give you a logical reason.”

Selectman Avi Kaner* said he liked driving over the bridge in the summer and seeing the demonstrators there, "even if I disagree with them ... Bravo to them for doing that."

*Tribe

Tue, 05/19/2015 - 22:59 | 6112255 Oldwood
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White lives do not matter. They are the livestock. They are successfully turning this back on whites where whites will now be the "Nigger". A word that was primarily used not as a name but a means of putting people into their place. You were called that to let you know that you resided on a lower level...a subservient level. What we now have is the term "racist" used in exactly the same way. It is a word used to silence the white voice. Any call for fairness or even the use of simple math is immediately classified as "racist". I have seen it used in city council proceeding where white members would be instantly silenced and typically coerced into submission once that word was used.

Our education and indoctrination is largely complete. Much of the youth have bought it all, convinced that everything that came before them is corrupt and racist and that they must capitulate to those who would oppress them...political correctness.

Those who resist will be called RACIST.

Wed, 05/20/2015 - 00:07 | 6112375 Zapporius
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We already have that. It's called "back to your cubicle"

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