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In Iraq, ISIS Is Winning And The United States Is Losing
Submitted by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,
During the Iraq war more than 4,000 U.S. soldiers died, countless others were severely injured, and the total cost to U.S. taxpayers was more than 2 trillion dollars. But now whatever the U.S. military accomplished during that war is being completely undone by ISIS. On Monday, we learned that ISIS had fully taken control of the strategically important city of Ramadi. Despite nine months of airstrikes by the U.S. military, ISIS continues to move forward and take new territory.
Just a few years ago, American soldiers fought some incredibly bloody battles on the streets of Ramadi, but now that city is in the hands of the most ruthless terror organization on the entire planet. And since it is only about 70 miles from Baghdad, Ramadi is going to make a fine staging area for an all-out assault on the capital. No matter how you cut it, the cold, hard reality of the matter is that the United States is losing in Iraq and ISIS is winning. So what will the U.S. do if ISIS actually takes control of the entire country?
Ramadi is traditionally known as the ‘Gateway of Baghdad’, but in recent days it has experienced utter carnage. According to the Daily Mail, “mutilated bodies” now lie everywhere along the streets of that once proud city…
ISIS militants have held a twisted victory parade after taking the key city of Ramadi in an orgy of violence and beheadings – and the extremists could march on the Iraqi capital Baghdad within the next month.
Mutilated bodies scatter the streets of the ‘Gateway of Baghdad’, where Islamic State slaughtered around 500 and forced nearly 25,000 to flee their homes over the last few days.
Now ISIS has released images of militants celebrating, children wielding automatic weapons and a fleet of pick-up trucks carrying its jubilant fighters through the blood-stained streets of Ramadi.
U.S. military officials insist that it really isn’t that big of a deal that Ramadi has fallen, but they made similar pronouncements back during the days of the Vietnam War. Just consider the following passage from a recent Wall Street Journal article…
In the closing years of the Vietnam War it was often noted sardonically that the “victories” against the Viet Cong were moving steadily closer to Saigon. The same could be said of Baghdad and the victories claimed against Islamic State, or ISIS, in Iraq in the past year. The ISIS takeover of Ramadi in the Anbar province over the weekend exposed the hollowness of the reported progress against ISIS. The U.S.-led bombing campaign in support of Iraqi forces isn’t working.
And guess what? As the “Iraqi Security forces” folded, they left behind large amounts of military equipment and large numbers of armored vehicles for ISIS to capture. In the end, this will make ISIS even more formidable. The following comes from Fox News…
Although there were a large number of Iraqi security forces occupying Ramadi, most troops fled after ISIS fighters began their assault on the city center Sunday, leaving behind Humvees and armored vehicles supplied by the U.S. military, a separate senior U.S. military official told Fox News.
“The Iraqi security forces were pushed out by a much smaller [ISIS] force,” the official said.
This is a theme that we have seen time after time. ISIS is taking over both Iraq and Syria largely using captured American weapons. Vehicles, equipment and weapons that our tax dollars paid for are being used to establish and expand a terrorist state in the heart of the Middle East, and Barack Obama seems almost ambivalent to the whole thing.
Even those that are on Obama’s side can’t quite understand what Obama is doing. For example, just consider the words of Piers Morgan…
But Obama’s had plenty of time to devise a successful strategy for dealing with the emerging threat of ISIS, and so far he has spectacularly failed.
As they beheaded Americans, he made somber speeches, then played golf minutes literally seven minutes later.
As they burned Jordanian pilots in cages, Obama assured us with almost casual confidence that he was on top of things.
As they threw gays to their death off rooftops and slaughtered Christians on beaches, still the leader of the free world exuded calm.
The clear message? ‘Don’t worry, I’ve got this all under control..’
Only he hasn’t.
For years and years, we heard about what a “threat” al-Qaeda was. But the truth is that al-Qaeda never was much of a threat at all. Most of the time their leaders seemed to be hiding out in caves or bunkers, and they never actually controlled any real territory.
But now we have a very real Islamic caliphate which has become so powerful that it can successfully fight a multi-front war against the Syrian government, the Kurds and the Iraqi government. Since it was first established, the amount of territory that it has captured is larger than the British Isles, and smaller terror groups all over the planet are rapidly swearing allegiance to it.
Unlike al-Qaeda, ISIS appears to be the real deal, and nobody in the western world can seem to muster up the will to do anything about it. The following is how this new Islamic State was described in a recent article in the Telegraph…
It is one of the strangest states ever created. The Islamic State wants to force all humanity to believe in its vision of a religious and social utopia existing in the first days of Islam. Women are to be treated as chattels, forbidden to leave the house unless they are accompanied by a male relative. People deemed to be pagans, like the Yazidis, can be bought and sold as slaves. Punishments such as beheadings, amputations and flogging become the norm. All those not pledging allegiance to the caliphate declared by its leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, on 29 June last year are considered enemies.
Almost every day now, there are global headlines about the latest ISIS atrocities. You can find a couple of particularly disturbing examples right here and right here.
There is no negotiating with these guys, and they will not stop until the entire Middle East is under their control.
I want to share with you two maps. This first map is the territory that ISIS controls today…
This second map is what ISIS claims belongs to them…
So what should be done about ISIS?
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No, the Globalist NWO is winning. They created ISIS and are using their lackey's like the CIA to support it.
+1
It is all about looting, theft, murder, stealing resources and MOAR defense spending and contracts. This is the ONLY objective.
This is what wars are about. Looting national treasuries and making the serfs pay for it.
The real Tyler would tell you ISIS was invented by the US and it's allies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llbzUyv1CLU
These USA military escapades in foreign lands were never about 'winning'. They were all about enriching the MIC. Win or lose, dead or alive USA servicemen and women, it was all about the fat cats getting a share the fiat coming out of the Fed.
what a crap article. "ISIS is the real deal, a real threat"
Is Snyder gunning for a slot on Fox News or something? The only was those people are going to harm any Americans is if we keep foolishly sending troops there, or dumbasses decide to go there to take pictures and get themselves kidnapped.
"Real deal." Stopped reading right there.
Belief systems...
YMMV
ISIS is CIA NWO Kagan and Nudelman - these "stories" are suspect...
Actually, Ramadi is a fluke and took six simultaneous car bombs to pull off. Fact is that the Syrian, Iraqi and Kurdish armies are kicking ISIS ass almost everywhere else.
Anbar is all throw-away Sunnis to the U.S. - I couldn't understand why anyone would think Ramadi is 'strategic' in the least. ISIS isn't even going to be able to hold the town - they don't have nearly enough troops or supplies.
So why all the fuss about Ramadi? Oh yeah, it's pretty close to the entirely useless Basra to Aqaba pipeline route that Israel plans on tapping into in Jordan. In fact, the only plausable reason anyone would want to build such a stupid, expensive pipeline is to get oil to Israel. The Iraqis can export all they want through Basra - they don't need a twenty billion dollar pipeline to Israel's Red Sea port.
So the MSM going full-retard over the (temporary) fall of Ramadi is nothing more than Israel protecting it's blood-for-oil pipeline. They can't have that. It's time for their U.S. Congressional bitches to justify putting a few thousand American boots on the ground and secure their damn pipeline! What the U.S. should be doing is bombing the shit out of that pipeline and telling Israel to go fuck themselves - the Israeli blood-for-oil pipeline has been cancelled. Forever.
"So what will the U.S. do if ISIS actually takes control of the entire country?"
Bomb more shit.
What a terrible and shocking fall from grace has the US suffered. Once a pioneer of space, a pioneer of medical research, a pioneer of technological innovation, a pillar of freedom and democracy, now a horribly destructive scoourge on the human race.
I am afraid there is simply no alternative than to start killing the people in power because they will not stop until they have utterly destroyed this world.
Life is changing people. We will wake very soon (I am certain) to news that will leave us paralyzed with fear. We will be yanked from our stupour into a world we could not have imagined possible. Psychopaths are in control and until they are destroyed we are in great peril. All of us.
Oh, there is surely some poetic justice in ISIS turning American weapons against the US. Hey, you live by the sword, you die by the sword and in this case, your own sword.
But it's not, imo, an existential threat to US national security interests and if there's no limit to what justifies US meddling, there will always be war.
just let these people kill each other as they always have. Policing the ME is a fools errand. Pull out before you get stuck with the bitch.
Saw pictures today of another mile long victory parade. Easy A10 target. No planes in sight.
False flags all the way down. Things are going exactly Obama's way in Iraq.
Exactly. Drone pilots are blowing up wedding parties because of one supposed target at the location, yet the Drone Squadron (bald eagle squaaaaaaawk) can't figure out how to lock & load on a fucking infantry platoon, on the march, with heavy weapons, stolen US vehicles and armor on its way to a predictable zone that is supposedly desserted by civlians AND friendlies...
The US vehicles, armour, and weapons were gifts. Think about this. If you're under attack and decide to beat a hasty retreat are you going to abandon your vehicle and run or turn said vehicle around and floor it. If your running away why would you throw down your weapons and be at the mercy of those that have them. The only explanation is that they were ordered to abandon their vehicles and weapons so that ISIS could get them. As has been reported air drops of supplies to "friendlies" were successful except the containers holding all the weapons "drifted" into ISIS territory. Iraqi's have shot down at least 2 British planes and 1 US chopper they claim were dropping weapons to ISIS. Many high ranking Iraqi officials, and large numbers of Iraqi citizens, believe the US created ISIS and is supporting them.
ISIS is regularly receiving truckload shipments through Turkey as documented by Deutche Welle, their video is on YouTube. Hundreds of trucks lined up at the border waiting to enter Syria. Most of the drivers interviewed claimed their loads were destined for ISIS occupied territory. The Turkish locals claim the loads on the trucks are coming from outside their area. There is too much traffic going on to be done with suitcases of cash, banks must be used. Even suitcases of cash will end up in the banks eventually. If the US really wanted to stop ISIS they could easily trace shipments back to companies and their banks and put a stop to it yet we have no indication the US is doing anything to stop it. If the US can sanction bank accounts of Islamic charities and dry up funding for Al Qaeda like they did after 9/11 and currently sanction minor league Russians cutting off supplies and funding to ISIS should be a piece of cake. US is playing a dangerous game here seemingly playing on all sides.
The US isn't likely to trace the source of funding, since it would only lead back to DC anyway.
Silly peasants still think war is about WINNING!!!
So what should be done about ISIS?..............send them to Isreal
Yep, US is not fighting anything in Iraq or anywhere in ME ? We are enabling ISIS/ISIL the newest creation of BHO and CIA with your tax dollars, how special, Hey ? Iran is now the saviour for Iraq and that too was well planned ?
Whata tangled web is woven.
There is a reason that the Sunni ruled Iraq and the Shia.......ruthlessness and organization.....just like their was a reason that Fascist were welcomed into the US after the war.......
ISIS owns 3/4s of Africa?
Good luck with that. Can they take Detroit and Camden too?
Nothing left worth stealing in Detroit or Camden. ISIS might take lower Manhattan if they decide to bring their efforts back home.
What's the cliche', our people are our greatest asset. Millions of hate filled blacks would be worth converting.
Let the Iranians deal with it. After that, we'll think of something else.
The US screwed up big-time in its geopolitical ambition when Iraq was invaded. They did not comprehend that, once the Baathist army was decomissioned, the pro-Iranians would step into the convenient vaccum. Isis is the response. There shall be Blood without End.
Really good point. If I may add my two cents. IMHO, Bush got rolled by the Dems and started nation building, rather than simply occupying some bases adjacent to Iran and letting the Iraqis fight it out, just as had occurred following Desert Storm I. I think there's some evidence that was the plan.
Remember how the media went crazy, then the DemParty, after the reports that the Baghdad zoo animals were starving and the museums were being looted? The whole tenor of the Bush Administration changed regarding what constituted "mission accomplished". That nation building included trying to bring the tribes of the Shia and Sunni (Baathists) into a political system for which we were way too involved, instead of sticking w/ regime change. I'm not necessarily saying it we should have done this, I'm simply taking a point of view.
ISIS didn't arrive in Iraq until after Al Queda got the Sunnis to fight the Americans, which led to the "surge" and stripping away enough Sunnis from AlQueda to defeat them. Neither Iraq or Syria are truly nations forged by nationality/ethnicity or a common history. They are artificial creations of Britain and France, and their borders were arbitrarily drawn without much thought about who was inside those borders. Remember the Arab Spring, all those rulers were also overthrown without a US invasion, and nothing has changed for the average person. Iraq's history is filled with revolutions and coups. Iraq is historically more within the Persian sphere of influence than not. A large population of Shia, who don't identify with Pan Arabism.
The old Zoroastrian Persian Empire long gone, but not forgotten; as is the way with people;history does not end or begin.
It's a simple depopulation plan ala Protocols of Zion. Don't worry, we are next!
But I suppose Imperialism and Nationalism of old has acquired a new form i.e. the Western European tribes have not been killing each-other on a large scale since 1945 and so one can make critical observations on other states in a way that describes no individual but historical processess apparently operating on the citizens, as if in Iraq no individual is free of external neo-colonial forces. But the trouble is, this is the truth;the manipulation and instigated violence by external entities has never ceased in the oil-rich provinces of the Middle East.
Although you have a good analysis of a plan here there could be another explanation. The whole thing is run by a bunch intellectual dumber than a box of rocks advisors and power hungry politicians who don't have a clue.
Those guys ain't stoopid. They're just clever greedy bastards with no moral compass other than the one that has a $ instead of North.
Once they've strip mined one little project, they move to the next. There's a lotta megabux to be made from running a war.
the so called neo con plan was to knock off the two biggest bad players; Iraq and Iran. The rest would fall into place. It was working, and would have changed the entire dynamic of ME politics and the players, at least for awhile. Syria and Libyia running for the hills, both did, following the Iraqi invasion. The one thing that this "New Deal" (sarc) fails to address is the ever historical presence of Islamic Imperialism.
Islam is a hegomonic ideology, and the history bares it out, just look at the map of where Islam is and how far into Europe it marched. Looking at this part of the world through Western eyes will almost always result in miscalculation leading of course to war. We should not be playing the role of empire, period. It's against every warning by the Founders and the Constitution they crafted. Do business with them, if we can.
Otherwise stay out, unless they're trying to seriously damage us with their petroleum lever. Nixon considered taking the Saudi oil fields during the oil embargo of 1974. jmo
Oh hell yeah! Our 'brightest' are intellectual vacuums for the most part, but their ambitions fill the void. It seems to work great for them, and not so much for the rest of us.
You really think Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld were moved by "starving zoo animals"? No, we had planned with the Iraqi National Congress to do nation building before the war started. And we also had to show the world that the Iraqi's were better off post-invasion because the original case we made for war fell apart.
Also I think we held onto Iraq for so long because we had to stay until the WMD plants were found and the Al Queda links, which never ended up happening.
Man, the howling about dead girraffes, and ancient artifacts being looted...it was media hysteria and on Capital Hill it was the same. Bush and company weren't much at political warfare, they couldn't even muster a proper defense to why the invasion was conducted, even in light that the Security Council of the UN actually sanctioned an invasion if the Iraqi government failed to comply w/ weapon inspections...which they did not. The invasion was voted and approved by the UN SC in the event Iraq refused to comply with the inspections program.
Saddam gambled that he could obstruct the weapons inspection program with little if any consequence. If the West didn't hold his gov't responsible to the UN mandate, it would have been a huge political defeat for the west and the Bush Administration in particular. There wasn't a major US pol; Bj Clinton, Kerry, Gore etc that didn't publicly state that Iraq's nuclear/bio/chemical weapons were a clear and present threat to peace in the region. I'm not making this up, it is a matter of public record.
The fact that the CIA/DIA didn't have human intelligence on the ground in Iraq meant that intelligence gathering was relying on less verifiable methods and sources of collection. The CIA Nat'l Intel Estimate at the time did conclude that absent weapons inspections, it should be assumed that the regime was actively seeking development and possession of NBC weapons. Bush did not lie about the intelligence. One can scream at his Administration for taking it to war, but not due to a "lie" as it is said so often and repeated endlessly, that many now accept that narrative as the truth.
I forgot the name of that Iraqi that was a Bush/State Department/Iraqi ex-patriots community ally that was sought for Iraq's president. Yes, they wanted to basically install a leader and be done with it and turn over the provisional iraqi (occupation) something (can't remember the name) It didn't turn out and then the Administration began that road to hell paved with good intentions. Bad mojo. Anyway, no body seems to remember the days long gov't convoy from Iraq into Syria while Saddam's gov't delayed the inspection program for 6 months! and then screwed with the involved staff when they did arrive. It was a real circus that Saddam was creating for the world to watch. He did gamble, and surprisingly he gambled wrong.
That would be Chalabi, who was actually a Shiite and an Iranian spy.
Nice work, Bush administration.
oh, no.
If iran steps out of its borders to do 'what america has failed to do' with ISIS, the war will really be on.
Obama is getting just what he intended, the perfect way to have Iran come in and take control of Iraq.
"But now whatever the U.S. military accomplished during that war is being completely undone by ISIS."
So they are undoing nothing then?
I bet the vast majority of Iraqis wish Saddam was still in power.
Yes, eve the Shias
I doubt the Kruds or Shia feel that way. Yeah, by that logic, the Americans will accept any measure of tyranny so long as there is peace. Well, maybe you're right to a degree.
The US is flying less than ten sorties a day against ISIS. When the US went into Bosnia and Afghsnistan they flew well over 100 each day. ISIS should not have any tanks, trucks, or artillery left running. We should send them back to using camels.
...they were using camels until we armed them.
I'd love to trace the serial numbers of those Toyotas.
You picked up on that too? Hundreds of sorties against the Serbs every day.
Soldiers win wars not planes bombing.
If not, America would have decisively won in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq , Libya and Afghanistan.
But they were stymied in all.
You don't know what you are talking about.
Ahh, Greece's solution to debt problems.
i missed the part where isis is
not a suitable ally of the usa?
i'm freakin' slow, help me.
Our government cannot trust its rogue elements, such as ISIS and CIA.
if that is the case then can we trust our government?
has sara pallen's "rogue" gone completely full frontal
rogue? is it the wall street rogue, the bankster rogue,
harry truman rogue? having the enemy so close
within the halls of power, no, controlling the levers
of power; that is genius in the domain of control.
maybe, this is what freedom looks like for the
"power" brokers? it is sort of like indoor
plumbing with hot and cold running water at
the turn of a valve. the government can nearly
simultaneously switch from prosecuting to protecting
any person, group or thing without missing a beat,
merely altering the narrative and of course, no act of
volition or violence is beneath the justice prescribed.
.
for example, recently a mr. bonnilla? was arrested
in brentwood n.y., i hear, for drugs and some form of
animal cruelty. allegedly, he was training and exploiting
cocks for cock fighting and possessing drugs.
naturally the roosters were seized along with the rest
and the determination was made that the roosters
will be euthanized as they are now too aggressive.
.
i understand that in some alternate mind frame
and universe this makes sense and could be called
justice, but, it is not one where i could live.
how is murdering all the roosters superior and less
cruel than training them to fight one another?
how is it more ethical than caging hundreds of millions
of chickens and pumping them full of chemicals
to destroy the health of the entire human population?
...
anyway ...the law
ISIS winning = U.S. "winning".
What a clusterfuck. Get us out.
All the US did was pick up after the British Empire fell following WWII. All the subterfuge involved with controlling these people, primarily due to petroleum.
Petroleum in this case is the control of significant quantities of it puts the US even more on the path to world domination. Another weapon in it's economic arsenal alongside sanctions, the banks, the IMF, and World Bank. If those don't work there is the military option.
Tell me one place we are winning aside from the biggest bunch of liars on the planet run our goverment.
Tell me one way that 'we' are We anymore.
But, but, according to the moronic US presidental candidates - "the world is a better place without Saddam Hussein" - only the Americans are dumb enough to fall for that sop.....
Europeans are tooo
According to Obama, Clapper, McConnell and all the other treasonous neo-cons running the U.S. foreign policy, the real enemy is not ISIS but whistleblowers like Assange and Snowden who reveal parts of the treasonous doings of the criminal cabal that is ruining America.
Add in Christy too.
And this is on purpose.
" So what should be done about ISIS?"
First get rid of the “Iraqi Security forces”, they have become the UPS for US military equipment deliveries to ISIS.
Since ISIS is Saddam Hussein 2.0, promote Iran/Iraq War part 2.
Eventually they will exhaust themselves and make peace.
http://pando.com/2014/10/16/the-war-nerd-nobody-could-have-predicted-isl...
ISIS will stop when all parts of Iraq and Syria inhabited by Sunni Arabs are under their control. The Kurds and Shia will not stop this but they will protect their own towns and families at all cost. Kobane withstood a 15-month siege because the Sunni Kurds knew the Sunni ISIS would kill them all if they surrendered.
There is no unity in Islam. The particular brand of Islam practiced by my tribe is the one and only true faith; every other so-called "Muslim" is an apostate who deserves to be beheaded and eaten by stray dogs.
The ZH confessional booth is open for business.
by Oded Yinon, translated by Israel Shahak | KIVUNIM / Palestine with Provenance | February 1982
"Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel's targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. An Iraqi-Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shi'ite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north. It is possible that the present Iranian-Iraqi confrontation will deepen this polarization."
http://www.monabaker.com/pMachine/more.php?id=A2298_0_1_0_M
Eretz Israel
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future
The Ethnic Clique that Sold Us the Iraq Warhttp://zfacts.com/node/297
all going according to plan -US and Israel would love for such savages to control Iraq and Syria-as well as the Kurds. That's why we and our proxies support them financially and Israel takes care of their wounded in their hospitals. Arab countries controlled by islamic fascist savage extremists is exactly who we want to fight in the future -when we make the final big push to establish Greater Israel and fight the final battle of Armegeddon -Christian Zionsit prophecy you know.
Jews, Christians, Moslems, one God; war unending. I suppose the end of this arrangement can only be Apocalyptic...but its all priced in to the Armaggeddon Index.
Armaggeddon Index.
LOL, thanks for that!
America has a hot product that's been doing real well inspite of the economic downturn: weapons of war exports
Coincidentally, this industry favors the well connected elites and not the masses
Coincidentally, ISIS is the perfect marketing campaign for the continuance of said industry !
hell half the shit they manufacture is just left in the desert for ISIS. now that the turd in the whitehorse (it's the new capital barn) has decided to publicly state he doesn't think US police need many more grenade launchers, 500 pound airburst bombs or tanks and california wont be getting an aircraft carrier to patrol the schools this year, they will probably leave more of that in the desert. (not the growing california desert)
Assad and jAHIM were walking along in the desert just last week, when Assad looked up an saw an abandoned nuclear missile launching submarine sitting in the hot dry sand. "look jAhim, ALLAH IS GOOD. I will strap this missile to my back, fly to washing-ton d.c. and collect my 72 virginas."
No one in the military knew the sub was unaccounted for, it didn't show up in the missing budget.
Do everything you can to keep your kids from joining the military.
My 19 year old kid was really screwed up -drugs, etc. - but now he's on a diversion program and is doing well - before he got messed up, he knew about the world. He asks me about once a week whether Assad will survive the US/Zionist onslaught . He's really upset at the Palestinian persecution by the zionists. He wears a "Putin for President 2016" T-shirt. He's smart and knows the ways of the world, but just can't get motivated to do the college thing -maybe he'd be good for the military. He was a debater in high school- went to all kinds of Ron Paul events -End the Fed rally at Dallas Fed- as bad as it sounds, maybe we need people like him in the military -instead of mindless killers like Chris Kyle.
Get him into a trade where he can use his brain.
I suggest broadcast engineering.
Keep him the hell away from the military if you actually like him at all.
If he already has a drug problem, the military will help him turn it into an important part of his new lifestyle. They are unlikely to get him off drugs, except for a few weeks of basic training.
War is mindless killing, misery, and suffering. Kyle was doing his job. Or do you think this is the revolutionary war where each side lines up on the village green and takes pot shots at each other on command then everyone goes home and has a beer. If your kid did join the military and was sent into the battlefield he would have to turn into a mindless killer to survive. Nobody debates on the battlefield, it's kill or be killed. If he doesn't hold up his end he would "accidentally" be a victim of "friendly fire" and come home in a body bag. Those of you who call Kyle a mindless killer or a coward because he kills from long range should volunteer for duty and learn first hand what combat is about. Snipers are an integral part of combat operations and a huge psychologial weapon striking fear in the enemies ranks that diminishes their effectiveness. Lots of American servicemen are alive today because of snipers. As a warmup turn off your pussified pablum you call entertainment and watch the goriest war movies you can get your hand on. Body parts and blood all over. That's real war.
Kyle was a serial liar.
"So what should be done about ISIS?"
Talk about hysterics to get the support for the MIC going yet again. Drop a nuke on Langley and the Israelis supplying the nutjobs, and ISIS will no longer exist. Stop terrorists by arresting those who supply, train and fund terrorism - we all know who they are in our own governments.
It is ridiculous to start whining about ISIS being 70 miles away from Baghdad. They were closer than that a month before Christmas, described in the press as just a stone throw away from the Green Zone. Yet, after taking over an area the size of Portugal in a matter of months, they stopped their attacks at the door of the largest US embassy compound in the world and turned their attention to Syria and elsewhere. I find that an obvious revelation about who controls these freaks.
Also strange are reports of regular airdrops of supplies to ISIS in an area full of US fighter jets and drones. While the Iraqi army fighting ISIS run out of ammunition, ISIS gets its delivery like clockwork. Then there is the blatant support for ISIS from Israel, treating their injured in Israeli hospitals to patch them up to fight again. After all, this is the same "Alpha Baker Al-Baghdadi" or whatever the fuck he calls himself who was posing with Senator McCain last year. And no, those photos have not been "debunked" despite WAPO's best efforts.
I like the way Ramadi is being called a "Once proud city" to dig up support for another fucking war. It was only a few years ago that the same Daily Mail was calling this city and others in Iraq a cesspool of insurgency activity urging us to witness our brave soldiers cleanse the cities with phosphorous bombs and house-to-house combat. I am fucking tired of this shit.
As for this "Caliphate" nonsense, all you need to do is look at Saudi Arabia to see the template of that retarded idea.
So you are saying the Bush and early Obama strategy was to install the Iraqi army as a non denominational enforcer of a central gov. And now the later Obama strategy is to tear all that apart and let Iraq split into suni, shia and kurdish territories? I don't buy it.
More likely Saudi Arabia is behind this. ISIS is their militia to spread suni islam, and destabilize shia gov's. When Iraq looked like it might have a strong central gov, they were terrified because that means shia control. A strong Iraq (shia) united with Iran (also shia) and Syria would be a big threat to them. Of course Israel is afraid of that as well, so they are on board with ISIS.
Sounds to me like Obama finally did something right. Let the sand niggers off each other and stay out of it. It's okay to profit, though, so sell them the means to off each other.
Seems this always happens when secular governments are over thrown.
Which United States are you talking about?
USSA
all a part of the plan.
think managed decline and leading from behind.....lol
The CIA and Mossad are winning and America and the world are losing.
Which behind? Reggie's behind?
Wait, if ISIS won doesn't that mean we won? Why are we pitting our domestic funded boys against our foreign funded boys? It just seems like bad business.
The motive for fighting wars in todays USSA is not winning,or losing,but keeping the revenue stream flowing perpetually..
Not sure how much of an inflow revenue stream. I rather think it's a perpetual revenue outflow that brings us ever closer to a British Empire kind of collapse.
The only battle US is winning is the one keeping the Americans brainwashed, dumbs and sheeple.
Fukkin eh!!!
We're nummer won. We're nummer won!!!!
PhoQ, you speak Canadian eh?
In my opinion, the only general public more misinformed than the Americans are are those other, more peripheral, countries in the Anglo-American (Zionist) Empire ... like Canada, eh?
Shit, you just had to pick on the Canuks, eh? I have the alternate view but just like the CBO fudging the accounting sheets, I eliminate the Golden Triangle, Vancouver and the Nuffies from my view. Wait, plug the Newfoundlanders back in, way more common sense than the Frenchophiles in the triangle.
I spend about an equal amount of time looking at Canadian news as I do American news, on both mainstream and alternative sources. Canadians are still in their economic bubble, which has not yet popped to the same degree it did in the USA, and so, are generally more complacent and clueless. Although the francophone news in Canada is considerably less stupid than the anglophone news, the Canadian mass media news is stupider than the American.
The Canadian Prime Minister and other senior government officials have made comments about foreign affairs that are worse than those made by any other government operating inside of the Anglo-American (Zionist) Empire.
Most Canadians were sold the frauds driving deliberately designed self-fulfilling prophesies through the "War on Terror."
From reading the comments, more of you are missing the "real" game that's going on.. Abadi and Maliki are in a power struggle. Maliki "control" the Shi'a militias (as a proxy for Iran).. Abadi's attempts to reconcile with the Sunni's in the Ramadi area is not popular with the Maliki crowd. Ramadi was an Al Qaida (pre-ISIS under Zarqawi) stronghold.
Maliki invited Iranian advisors under control of Qassim Suleimani, the Qud's force commander. Obviously, the US doesn't want to lend support to Iran gaining greater influence over Iraq's Shi'a Arabs..
So Iraqi forces are being asked to "protect" Sunni tribal leaders who were complicit in killing Shi'a Iraqis. Not very popular..
But here is the other angle.. Iran is a Persian country, predominantly Shi'a. Their religious leadership, who are really in control there, believe that the "12th Imam" (also called the "Hidden Imam") will awaken someday as the Mahdi, who will then lay the way for the return of Isa (Jesus) the Messiah and the end of the world.
But they are Persian, and the Arabs and Persian have never gotten along. So if Iran wants to lead the way to invoking the return of the Mahdi, and make their way to Jerusalem (Al Quds), they need to get the Arabs out of the way. They need to destroy the Sunni Arabs, and subjugate the Shi'a Arabs, as well as the holy Shi'a cities of Karbala and Najaf in SE Iraq.
So Iran needs conditions to be so desperate that Iraq's Shi'a demand Iranian (Persian) intervention to prevent an ISIS takeover..
Where this ties in with Ramadi is that it is a critical road hub, both to Baghdad, as well as Karbala and Najaf. Route 12 goes right to Karbala from Ramadi.. It also controls the road to Rutbah, on the way to Jordan.
So.. it's very possible that Maliki will refuse to get involved with his Militia until Karbala is threatened.. And Iran really wants to have a solid pretext to justify their direct intervention into Iraq (obviously to give them control over Karbala and Najaf)..
It's going to get interesting.. In sum, Iran wants Arabs to kill each off so they can sweep in and take control..
Scrutinizer
Very interesting analysis, scrutinized.
It fills in some of the missing pieces for me.
Somewhat cynical observance, old chap.
Look at how cynical our political players are.
The best mind-altering drug is the truth.
-- Lily Tomlin
the best truth altering drug is the mind
From reading the comments, more of you are missing the "real" game that's going on.. Abadi and Maliki are in a power struggle. Maliki "control" the Shi'a militias (as a proxy for Iran).. Abadi's attempts to reconcile with the Sunni's in the Ramadi area is not popular with the Maliki crowd. Ramadi was an Al Qaida (pre-ISIS under Zarqawi) stronghold.
Maliki invited Iranian advisors under control of Qassim Suleimani, the Qud's force commander. Obviously, the US doesn't want to lend support to Iran gaining greater influence over Iraq's Shi'a Arabs..
So Iraqi forces are being asked to "protect" Sunni tribal leaders who were complicit in killing Shi'a Iraqis. Not very popular..
But here is the other angle.. Iran is a Persian country, predominantly Shi'a. Their religious leadership, who are really in control there, believe that the "12th Imam" (also called the "Hidden Imam") will awaken someday as the Mahdi, who will then lay the way for the return of Isa (Jesus) the Messiah and the end of the world.
But they are Persian, and the Arabs and Persian have never gotten along. So if Iran wants to lead the way to invoking the return of the Mahdi, and make their way to Jerusalem (Al Quds), they need to get the Arabs out of the way. They need to destroy the Sunni Arabs, and subjugate the Shi'a Arabs, as well as the holy Shi'a cities of Karbala and Najaf in SE Iraq.
So Iran needs conditions to be so desperate that Iraq's Shi'a demand Iranian (Persian) intervention to prevent an ISIS takeover..
Where this ties in with Ramadi is that it is a critical road hub, both to Baghdad, as well as Karbala and Najaf. Route 12 goes right to Karbala from Ramadi.. It also controls the road to Rutbah, on the way to Jordan.
So.. it's very possible that Maliki will refuse to get involved with his Militia until Karbala is threatened.. And Iran really wants to have a solid pretext to justify their direct intervention into Iraq (obviously to give them control over Karbala and Najaf)..
It's going to get interesting.. In sum, Iran wants Arabs to kill each off so they can sweep in and take control..
Scrutinizer
Really appreciate the details about the who and why. Bumpersticker burps with an ax to grind are the norm around here.
THE MIC (specifically leadership) LOSERS
Congress LOSERS
Senate LOSERS
US .gov at all levels LOSERS
Police LOSERS
All .gov agencies LOSERS
US leadership posers couldn't blow up a balloon with a 50lb bottle of helium.
LE HOOO SEEE HEERRRs
the us military is like an old worn out car, you pushed it down the hill and got it started, now you cannot let it stall out or you will never hear it run again.
"In Iraq, ISIS Is Winning And The United States Is Losing"
CIA, Mossad, and Zion are winning.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
After the first CIA war in the Middle East by CIA-Bush Sr., the CIA was confident they could take out Saddam. They failed, and hence the second war-crime in 2003.
They got their asses handed to them, and so the Pentagon increased their control over Iraq from about 2006 onwards.
Fast forward to CIA-Obama tying to switch out the Pentagon's control in Iraq with the CIA. He, they, failed, so triple-threat ISIS is created. ISIS' mandate is: 1) Another FUDD (Fear, Uncertainty, Dread, and Diversion) tool to be used against the American people, and other peoples of the world. 2) CIA, Mossad to regain control over Iraq from the Pentagon. 3) Take out Assad for Israeli Lebensraum.
The sad truth of the matter:
As long as nothing/nobody gets blown up on US soil, nobody gives a rat's ass.
look at all that new land for israel
Bingo. These Zionist fucks are destroying the US from the inside out.
Unfiortunately your average American Idol viewer has no idea what's going on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhFRGDyX48c
In my opinion, (which I have REPEATED several times previously under related articles republished on Zero Hedge in the past) the plan of the ruling classes is to deliberately drive things to get so bad that they would finally be able to justify using weapons of mass destruction, in order to mass murder hundreds of millions, if not billions, of people.
Guys like Snyder tend to grossly underestimate the degree to which the ruling classes have become criminally insane, as well as what drove them to become that way!
P.S.
If one does not understand that the events on 9/11/2001 were an inside job, false flag attack, then one understands nothing regarding what is currently happening in the Middle East!
Even More Admitted False Flag Terror Incidents Come to Light
The oldest book on The Art of War starts by saying that "success in war is based on deceits," and ends by saying that "spies are the most important soldiers."
THE PROBLEM is that the development of weapons of mass destruction has made that become runaway criminal insanity, like a slow motion train wreck that we are stuck inside of!
But now whatever the U.S. military accomplished during that war is being completely undone by ISIS.
Nothing was accomplished. We lit a fire and now we are dumping more fuel on it.
Not true, we accomplished making the Jewish owners of the big defense contracts and war factories a shitload of money.
"In Iraq, ISIS is winning and the United States/Anglo-American Deep State is winning".
There - fixed it for ya.
All depends on who's on whose side at the moment
Good God! They'll be at the gates of Detroit within a month. WILL NO ONE STOP THEM?
It may be that the TSA was created to unlock the gates and let them come in. Looks like a set up to me.
Will anyone THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!
The gates were stolen a long time ago and sold for scrap metal.
ISIS transforms Saddam into Ghandi
Looking at the second map,
I'm thinking ISIS is doing their part
To isolate Russia.
Fuck the Malaysians.
ISIS is brought to you by the same neocon/zionist Deep State that, with Israel, brought you 9/11.
ISIS is a 'golem.'
Obviously.
Interesting article in "Washington post" on the "Syrian" "revolution" and its main "supporters".
The US-Islamic State Dance: One Step Forward and Two Steps Back – By Design"During the Iraq war more than 4,000 U.S. soldiers died, countless others were severely injured, and the total cost to U.S. taxpayers was more than 2 trillion dollars. "
exceptional ami lackeys.
you are disgusting mutants.
tic toc
Hire the Vietnamese - they know how to win....
Conquer ALL lands that have valuable natural resources.
Kill ALL the inhabitants.
Repopulate with civilized humans.
Kill islamic cult worshipers anywhere by any means.
It'll probably take a while to kill all 310,000,000 Americans, but you sound like the man for the job!
You are so easily propagandized Prober...your one demensional thinking never ceases to amaze me.
You are over there by now, right? Fighting the good fight you're so committed to? At least your smartphone is working or you are able to still get wifi while battling the "cult worshipers" you so clearly despise. I mean the "other" cult worshipers...not your cult of course.
"There is no negotiating with these guys, and they will not stop until the entire Middle East is under their control."
Well, that's what we said about the Neocons a decade ago. They withdrew, humiliated, leaving only chaos (though their scheming and grand plans continue unabated).
Give them North Africa and call it a day.
if the f ing iraqis won't stand and fight for their own country why should we give a crap?
Where is Bibi Nutteryahoo when we need him ? After the Israeli army crushed the mighty Gazan one, ISIL should easily be eliminated , without American or European blood sacrificed. The Semites need to solve their own problems.
I think it's all pretty hilarious!
The growth of ISIS/ISIL/Deash and Al-Qaeda has paralleled US/NATO wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and Yemen. If the US/NATO wanted to defeat ISIS they would have allied with Hezbollah, Assad in Syria and Iran, who have opposed ISIS from the start. ISIS and Al Al-Qaeda are being supported by Gulf States, Turkey, Jordan, Israel and US/NATO. We can thank President Bush II for creating this mess by invading Iraq and disbanding the Iraqi army in 2003. The cost to US taxpayers so far- circa $3 trillion.
Everything the U.S. Has done is to keep Iran at bay. Ironically, everything the U.S. Has done has only strengthened Iran's overall positioning. The stage is set for Iran to become the dominant player in the ME, and the winner of WWIII.
"Unlike al-Qaeda, ISIS appears to be the real deal, and nobody in the western world can seem to muster up the will to do anything about it"...
Like what? pray tell...all these tough guys all around...just like Vietnam...
No, the US lost in the beginning when we went after Saddam. Everything else is just unintended consequences. Believe me, Obama does not give much of a fuck about the Mid East. Why do you think countries like Saudi Arabia are now doing there own fighting and have there lip run out over lack of American support. I for one am fucking glad to see it.
So it makes Jeb Bush's comment, and all those who still support the Iraq war, a little silly. how can Cheney think that it was all worth it?
From the article... "So what will the U.S. do if ISIS actually takes control of the entire country?"
The war lords in D.C. will rejoice. Attack Iraq, rebuild Iraq, Lose Iraq, repeat.
Mission Acomplished
Correction...In Iraq much, much more than 4000 troops died...the 4000 are the "official figures" which don't include PMC deaths. The whole point of hiring private military contractors in Iraq was to outsource the dirty work and keep the death toll numbers low. It was all bullshit, from start to end.
Zio-US-SA-Qatar_$$$ Wassabbii sauce gives birth to radicals of every stripe. Hell, go ahead and give two old A- Tacticals to Iran. Israel will not be the target. Saudi Arabia will be the target. IF I had any money, it would be on the Ruskie-Chink-Iran team who play the looonnngg game.
Everything is happening for a reason- so that, as you stated, Iran, with its allies including Russia and soon to be China, will come out on top. It won't take much longer, either. We'll probably see WWIII start with great gusto this fall.
Nuke em from orbit. ISIS won't be stopped for real until they have eliminated Murica's enemies in Syria, Iran and Lebanon.