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Indonesia Just Sank "A Large Chinese Vessel" And 40 Other Fishing Boats In The South China Sea
According to The China People's Daily, Indonesia has just sank a large Chinese vessel and 40 other foreign ships caught fishing in The South China Sea. AP confirms that Indonesian authorities blew up and sank the 41 vessels... which seems like something that might just lead to some serious escalation if true...
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The tweet...
Indonesian authorities blew up and sank 41 foreign fishing vessels Wednesday as a warning against poaching in the country's waters.
The vessels from a variety of countries were blown up in several ports across the archipelago, which has some of the world's richest fishing grounds.
Navy spokesman First Adm. Manahan Simorangkir said 35 vessels were sunk by the navy and six by the coast guard police.
Fisheries Minister Susi Pudjiastuti said Indonesia has blown up several other boats since the current government took over last year after President Joko "Jokowi" Widodo was elected. Part of his platform was to preserve Indonesia's oceans to ensure future generations will benefit from its rich waters.
The boats, seized from Chinese, Malaysian, Philippine, Thai and Vietnamese fishermen, were blown up on National Awakening Day, which commemorates the first political movement toward Indonesia's independence.
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To clarify, they already had the boats and blew them up for show. Not as the fishermen were still on them... ALL HAIL CHUMBA.
Party pooper...
Sorry. It would be pretty big news if they just started firing on fishing boats. Sinking captured vessels on a holiday? MEH.
And so it begins.
44, could you please explain that empty vessel news clearly to the Australian govt? Their inclination for precedent might lead them to blow up asylum seeker vessels.
On a positive note, this reduction in shipping might hopefully generate a recovery in the baltic dry index :)
Live by the sword....
Empty fuel and get rid of wiring, scuttle the boats and start building a dive resort on the nearest archipelago.
Quite a Sprat they're having on National Awakening Day.
You have just got to be fucking kidding me.
Shoulda known that Chinese boat crap would be available to Ebay bidders. Way to go Indonesia!
I think this is called a fishing boom!
Where did all the fish go?
How about a tasteless farmed Tilapia sandwich?
The next one will be an ISIS attack on Chinese Nationals within China. (...orchestrated by our own US CIA.)
Now the Chinese Military Bases in the South China Sea story makes much more sense. (They want protection for their shipping, perhaps?)
Perhaps the oligarchs are attempting to set the stage for a Sino-Islamic War.
That just won't happen... ever.
Nahhhhh....
False Flags never happen. Never.
So, what if some FX Dude or Newbie made a trade based on this shit?
Would ZH man up and cover the loss?
I'm wondering if any of the blown up vessels happened to have MH370 call signals emblazoned anywhere on those scuttled vessels? hmmm... Just a passing thought...
Actually we are no longer troubled by boatloads of illegal aliens coming to live for life off Australian welfare handouts.
Once the Abbott government began consistently returning them to Indonesia (which the previous leftist government said could not be done) they stopped trying.
So nothing for the Australian government to sink.
You forgot to mention putting the ones who try in concentration camps in the pacific, surrounded by secrecy laws and press gags.
Australians were scared into loosing their hearts. Either that, or they never had one.
Given Australia had a pretty direct contribution in creating those refugees, I tend towards the later.
Now that whole line of "Oh no you can't do that" and the following "Just watch me" and it works seems to me to be the Seminal Progressive Failure followed by "clear headed" thinking.
How to be released from Australian concentration camp:
Ask to go home.
Better watch who you kick sand in their face
Uh...I do not intend to kick sand into anyone's face.
Just into whose face do you intend to kick sand?
This is a just a logical extension of fireworks displays, as they get to solve a problem and entertain at the same time. Now if we could just work out how to blow up banksters on public holidays..)))
False Flag perhaps? Seems unlikely Indonesia would attack China to provoke them, on the other hand, if you China and need "moar" resources...
One should start with the assumption that this is a trumped-up media ploy, aka a false flag. If proven to be legit by a sufficient multitude of credible sources, then -- and only then -- accept the premise.
Credible sources? Where would those be?
That's the way to do it! It's time to start sinking Chinese vessels on those stolen islands in the Sea of Vietnam, too.
Last thig I want - to eat fish from radioactive sea. Blow them (vessels) up.
Geography lesson: Indonesia, the world's largest archipelago and the world's fourth most populous nation is thousands of miles to the South-West of Japan. Tokyo is 7 Hour flight from Jakarta so further than NY to London. Ocean currents in the Pacific run Eastwards and South-Eastwards from Japan towards the American continental land mass.
Bottom line: More chance of catching radioactive fish off the coast of California than in Indonesia,
Seriously now, who downvoted that?
A Progressive?
mr cesium?
Those whom are opposed to truthers...
In an other word...liars.
I will rather be a truther than a liar.
Like this guy?
You're kinda cute. I think,,,
Hey now, you are ruining the headline! How are people going to interpret it as intended?
Yeah this is normal behaviour for countries in the region. Australia destroys heaps of Indonesian fishing boats. Noone gets killed though.
"The boats, seized from Chinese, Malaysian, Philippine, Thai and Vietnamese fishermen, were blown up on National Awakening Day...."
I suspect that if this is true that Indonesia is in for a very, very rude awakening.
Looks like fun
When I first read this headline, I thought they sunk these boats with people on board. But apparently, they were seized first. Not quite the same thing.
I don't know. It still makes me furious with Obama, and reasonably certain that WWIII (IV?) is fixin' to start.
It's the difference between reading what is written and projecting your interpretation on what is written.
Formulating conclusions with insufficient data.
Empty? They missed an opportunity to deal with all those boat people!
You can sink a boat but you can't sink a Chinese.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and the fucker starts fishing on your property and you have to blow his shit up.
Thank you sir.
May I have another?
As an ex observed: Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you get rid of him for the whole weeknd."
Let the games begin. The south Pacific is as good a place as any for international brinksmanship to begin. Maybe this might even put the kibosh on the TPP. Good.
I thought that, too. Indonesia and Thailand are potential TPP members as is The Philippines. Vietnam and Malaysia are already in negotiations.
Pretty provacative pictures. Swai prices to increase.(never would eat any seafood from that hellhole part of the world)
Were this the real deal I would have said Ho Lee Fuk.
yeah, sum ting wong
Wai Tu Lo
The problem with blowing up a chinese ship is that you're ready to blow another one up an hour later.
A not so subtle warning to China perhaps even though some of the ships are likely from other countries as well. Probably already planned but interesting in context with the US Navy flying over the Chinese claimed island. "You go---"
Given that China had apparently abandoned the boat (at least not raising much of a fuss about it being seized), and assuming that it was a government-owned, blowing it up was kind of anti-climatic, don't you think?
You forget the stink the Chinese raised with Japan when Japan seized a Chinese fishing boat several years ago. This is a different situation altogether just judging by the reaction of the Chinese.
Wait, I thought only China was expanding it's activity in the South China Sea. Seems like some of America's Asian allies have some 'splainin' to do as well.
I remember some years ago, the Russians blew up some pirate ships in the Gulf of Aden, even there are some footage on youtube.
Junk volatility.
China wont be provoked.
Western pussies strike again.
Prolly just them damn, dirty Jews again....up to their old tricks.
Indonesia is an Asian Muslim country. Not sure how your getting "western" out of that....
Never underestimate the "arrogant chinese bastard". If you've been in China, you will know who I am talking about. They really think their shit does not stink and they will be provoked.
Grimaldus
The integration of Muslims into Western nations continues apace. And do not forget that America's esteemed Pres is -or has been - a citizen of Indonesia at some point in his mysterious life.
Western connection is more than apt here.
Obozo is a closet Jesuit.
Good for them.
Fucking poachers.
It's been a turkey shoot in that part of the world ever since American air and naval personnel made target practice out of Japanese lifeboats and floaters.
You should try that some time. And after she pulls the trigger show her the shells. Rage can be a glorious thing to behold.
There's always tomorrow when you're not looking.
When you know what she's capable of, you'll always be looking.
The Chinese PLA is busy trading stocks. They don't care at all.
Where's the body flying through the air? Didn't happen.
Seized vessels.
This was target practice.
Clearly you are mistaken and robertocarlos has it. It is physically impossible to blow up a boat unless bodies fly through the air.
Holy crapironi people can be stupid.
. . . a large chinese vessel, bah, almost had me there.
I bet it was fun.
How lazy.. They could have al least had the target boats on a tow line or powered up for decent target practice.
Shells cost money
A shell weighs as much as a Volkswagen .... and cost as much as a Cadillac !
Cool!
Indonesians obviously have a sense of humor. All those explosions on "National Awakening Day".
Gold not moving on the news yet.
Gold doesn't move on newz.
where have you been?
"Hey, brother-man? Mr. Indonesia? Yeah, you. Here's some fiat, and there's more there that came from. All you have to do is attack some civilian Chinese boats in what you already claim is your waters. What? Don't worry about it. We've got your back. It's not like were bankrupt or anything. Trust us..."
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
Isn't Indonesia Uknowho's home?
Give me a poor mulatto for ten years .... and I'll give you a Muslim for life !
Extend to me your poor, your starving, your desperate masses.. and I will leverage my spying, security, intelligence capabilities...
True.
And we (the govt) will take away their guns and protests.
The way I read it they were boats that had been previously seized for fishing violations. The article did not say anyone was on board when the vessels were sank. The article did make it easy to assume people went down with the vessels however.
There must be fatalities or else the geostrategic benefits inured to China will be muted. A false flag without fatalities is a waste of good ammo.
nah, that's what crisis actors are for.
How Many Merikans were involved?
s/
Keynesian maritime stimulus ! Of course, Jack Burton may have a Zionist spin ! LMAO
What are the Treaties involved as Primary revelations:
- BRIICS Associations of various sorts?
- Military Treaties?
- Enduring Geopolitical Conflicts?
I'm no faith that you are informed or a participant
No Credit Given, No credit Extended
RENUNCIATION OF WAR
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RENUNCIATION OF WAR^
Treaty providing for the renunciation of war as
an instrument of national policy.
Signed at Paris August 27, 1928.
Entered into force July 24, 1929.
46 Stat. 2343; TS 796; 2 Bevans 732; 94 LNTS 57.
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Note who is missing?
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Indonesia, Malaysia, Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Burma, ... So Asia was a big Target and Everyone Knew this before WWII.
Were those entities countries in 1928?
Yes .... No .... Yes and No .... Yes .... No Yes No ! Next ?
Sorry I'm into my cups. I've been drinking for some time now and have lost the gist.
Cheers!
So is this a big deal or just getting rid of siezed ships or boats?
Would be fun to be on the get rid of them fukers ships crew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So is this a big deal or just getting rid of siezed ships or boats?
Would be fun to be on the get rid of them fukers ships crew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The target is China , while US watches the back of Indonesia.
And Indonesians feel emboldened becuz America maintains a big naval base there (& cock$uckerObama grew up there) . But Indonesians dont know that wherever America has military base, that country becomes a colony & slave to it.
America is starting a wildfire around China (salivating at the prospect of looting its gold as it does everywhere else).
I agree, the pattern is all too familiar IMHO
Well I guess they're not fucking around. Win-Win, enforce your fishing grounds and get some demolition practice to boot.
US has a big base in Darwin, Australia.
This is false flag BIG TIME.
WW3 is ON.
Look for similar shit in Ukraine again or Macedonia to pin on Russia.
False flag, yes. World War III, no.
this is the asian version of cash for junkers. they blow up the decrepit boats to skew the used boat market towards newer boats that are too expensive to poach fish with. used boat and new boat dealers are thrilled with this .gov provided green shoot. lobbying the local bossman with some campaign donations really works everywhere.
I'm starting with the assumption that this is a false flag event. If these claims are corroborated convincingly, then I'll revise this view accordingly.
This theory lacks a critical element to make it a viable ZH post.
Where are the omnipotent and omniscient Zionists?
Any post without Zionists is obviously the dreaded "Controlled Opposition".
You need Zionists, buddy, and lots of em, to be credible.
Can I claim I lost my gold in one of these?
Looks like they are really good at blowing ....
Just an early shot being fired in the upcoming global war for all kinds of resources. Unlike in the US, Indonesia doesn't have any GMO fishes from Monsanto...
So long, and thanks for all the fish.
I just laughed seeing people posting false flag false flag blabla.
Dude, it's just Indonesia blowing illegal vacant fishing ships in port.
And big/small countries got the same treatment.
While the story is true, all of the boats were seized previously and were unmanned when they were sank or blown up. For instance, the Chinese vessel was seized in 2009. The public display was done so as to warn others thinking about poaching in Indonesian waters.