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WalMart's Leaked Anti-Union Training Video
Last month, we asked: “Why Is WalMart Mysteriously Shuttering Stores Nationwide For Plumbing Issues?” The story, which has since gone viral, goes like this. WalMart inexplicably closed five geographically distinct locations across the US, citing persistent plumbing issues. These pesky “clogs and leaks” are apparently so endemic at the shuttered stores that they will need to remain closed for at least six months.
Needless to say, the 2,200 or so employees whose jobs ‘went down the drain’ so to speak were skeptical given that no one had seen any evidence that the plumbing was indeed bad and considering the fact that WalMart gave them virtually no notice whatsoever before closing the stores. Local media quickly picked up on the issue and discovered that no plumbing permits had been filed in any of the cities where the stores were closed and the LA Times subsequently discovered that at one location, the Pico Rivera WalMart in California, $500,000 in renovations had been completed in the previous year including plumbing repairs.
As it turns out, the Pico Rivera location isn’t just any old WalMart. In fact, as we documented in “Did WalMart Close A California Store To Punish Employees Who Protested Labor And Working Conditions?”, the store’s employees have been at the forefront of pickets, walkouts, sit-ins, protests, and various and sundry other demonstrations aimed at raising awareness about working conditions and management’s retaliatory tendencies when it comes to workers who escalate concerns. These demonstrators have enjoyed the support of The United Food and Commercial Workers International Union who last year prevailed in a Canadian Supreme Court case stemming from a 2004 incident in which the company closed a Quebec store after employees voted for representation by the union. Now, the UFCW is seeking a labor board injunction in connection with the plumbing incident.
Now, a “New Associate Orientation” video has surfaced. In the nine minute clip (entitled “Protect Your Signature”) WalMart patiently explains to new hires why unions are bad.
Regardless of your stance on organized labor, it’s difficult to describe the video as anything other than a hilariously transparent (and poorly acted) piece of propaganda. The video is below (along with the Spanish version for our bilingual audience), but here are some highlights.
The clip begins with an attractive female associate who assures new employees that “the people in this store are a second family to me” before claiming that “there’s no retailer who offers more job security than WalMart” (until the ‘plumbing’ breaks that is).
Fast forward to the 3:00 mark and a friendly-looking male associate tells you that despite any misgivings you may be having about what was invariably a necessity-driven decision to work at WalMart, “you made a great choice and the company is glad you’re here.”
The associate then issues a dire warning: “But the reality is, you’re not the only one looking to get your foot in the door. Labor unions are really interested in WalMart.”
What follows are five straight minutes of brazen anti-union rhetoric including the following highly amusing soundbites:
From the male associate:
“Our company is the first to have open and direct communication with our associates.”
“We don’t think a labor union is necessary here and because our associates have said time after time that they don’t want a union, we usually don’t spend a lot of time talking about it.”
From a second female associate:
“I don’t get it, how would it make any sense for our associates to join a union that wants to damage our reputation?”
“The truth is, unions are businesses that make their money by convincing people like you and me to give them a part of our paychecks.”
“At WalMart, employees are used to having their voice heard — for free.”
From a supposedly semi-retired part-time associate who apparently works in the stock room:
“Believe me, joining a union isn’t something I EVER want to do again.”
Then it’s back to the first associate who talks with union members "all the time":
“Union members shop at our stores. I talk to them all the time and I hear them complain about their jobs.”
And summing things up is associate number two again who doesn’t understand why, with “all he’s got at WalMart” he would ever want organized labor:
“With everything I’ve got here, I’m not willing to trade it for a union.”
Without further ado we present "Protect Your Signature", a WalMart production:
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Walmart has negatives but being anti-union is NOT one of them.
No union organizing videos? Why not? Wal Mart sucks but so do the unions and z-Union organizers and management. Sending their money to Meyer Lansky.
Fuck Walmart, but fuck those union thugs too. They are a private company, if they want to not allow unions in their business, that's their right. What's the solution, govt MAKES them allow their employees to unionize? Fuck that. I don't want unions of the government having any more power.
Unions served their purpose for a time. Now they are nothing more than "slow down you are making me look bad" organizations that do nothing more than protect the shittiest workers. They enrich the union bosses at the expense of the people who actually do something, and they FORCE you to pay union dues. I don't like forcing anyone to do anything, and unions do that better than anyone else.
Whether you like it or not, WM is currently a large part of the supply chain, and it's showing weakness.
I would hope walmart and the unions get into a giant lawsuit that bankrupts both, except that would mean the lawyers get all those FRNs.
Unions fighting for whatever the hell they want is fine. Management fighting against the unions are fine. The only role government should play when dealing with the two sides is protecting property rights, prosecuting crimes, and enforcing contracts through the legal system. The problem comes when politicians get paid by either the unions or the corporations to put a finger on the scale in order to give one side an advantage.
Agree. Like I said above, I don't like forcing people to do something. If WM employees want to form a union, fine. But WM (or any business) should be able to say, we don't hire union workers. If said business can operate that way, thats "their" business. Freedom of association anyone???
WM (or any business) has no right to discriminate. That's the law. If you'd like to change the law, then I have no problem with your going thru the legislative process to change the constitution, but until then, discrimination is unconstitutional. And that's what you're suggesting when you say WM can say we don't hire union workers.
Now, if WM doesn't want to negotiate with a union, assuming their employees form one, that's their right. But it's also the right of their employees to form one, take job actions against Wal Mart, and otherwise act in any way legal to better their circumstances.
THAT'S what freedeom of association means.
Sorry, but the U.S. Constitution does not protect union supporters from discrimination. The legal protection that does exist is by statutory enactment.
But those statutes do exactly the opposite of what you are suggesting. They absolutely require the company to negotiate once the NLRB has certified a union as a bargaining representative. But it is an odd sort of "negotiation", because neither the union nor the company ever has to concede a point or come to a final agreement. They just have to engage in "good faith" discussions. Examples of these sorts of negotiations lasting for years with no agreement ever being reached are legion. And a surprisingly high percentages of companies have decided to simply go out of business rather than negotiate, and they have the right make that choice.
I don't see Walmart electing to go out of business, so union organizing drives are a major concern to them.
The right to "freedom of association" protects citizens from the government, not Walmart, nor any other non-governmental organization. Union labor laws do raise legitimate "freedom of association" issues when a state or federal law attempts to make union membership mandatory for all persons holding job titles contained in the bargaining unit certification. A government law forcing you to associate with people with whom you may not want to associate impinges on your constitutional right to freedom of association. Generally, the freedom of association has been limited by Court decision to associations intended for political purposes, and there are a series of Court decisions which basically say in is OK to force you to pay union dues if that is mandatory under the law, but only to the extent that your Union uses some of that money to lobby or to support political candidates.
I agree with you on the Constitutionality of it, but it's a complicated problem. In the early history of the U.S., oligarchs used violence to end unions because workers were sufficiently organized (by choice) to give the oligarchs no choice but to hire union workers, go out of business, or use violence. They choose violence. The labor laws grew from that use of unlawful force against individuals who formed voluntary organizations. Since then, unions became corrupt, and normalcy bias has convinced many that unions are inherently a bad thing even without corruption of their leadership.
People are downvoting you. That's discrimination.
People that don't go to WM are discriminating.
People that do go to WM are discriminating.
I want to see Walmart's video on how to fill out Medicare and SNAP forms too.
where's the video in Hindi language?
greenskeeper....walmart is a "PRIVATE" company? what planet did you beam down from.......good god the morons are loose again
Agreed, unions are a scourge. Funny that this bastion of libertarianism is now saying WMT should be for unions...
This isn't the bastion of Libertarianism it might be .... at best, it's a home for some bleeding heart Libertarians !
In fairness, you confuse being a cunt with being libertarian.
Walmart is not really free market. For that they suck.
Unions suck too.
Two separate issues there.
They're using union actors in their video, so how anti-union are they really...
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a pox on both management and labor.
Sam Walton would have never supported what became of his original business.
His children are disgraceful, greedy and just plain awful human beings.
I do love this. It's beautiful.
I feel like I just watched one of those flight safety videos they show at the beginning of the flight, except this was talking shit about unions.
Nothing has better acting and intriguing content like a good Corporate propaganda video.
The theory proposes that public media (such as films, television, news casts, etc.) are deliberately seeded with subtle clues to future social, political, or technological changes. According to the theory, when the relevant change is later introduced into the world, the public has become used to the idea through exposure, and therefore passively accepts it rather than offering resistance or opposition. Predictive programming is therefore thought to be a means of propaganda or mass psychological conditioning that operates on a subliminal or implicit level.
– Wikipedia, Predictive Programming
"Walmart Associate" sounds more pleasing than "Walmart Slave"
Because slaves are people who seek out and willingly accept employment, right?
I think that he thought he was commentng on a Washington Post article.
Unionized? Imagine all the Wal-Mart workers drunk and high stocking shelves, blown out on heroin sleeping in racks of clothes… Or the guy in the lot speedballing while collecting carts.
By way of comparison, can you let us in on the name of an already 'union-shop' where this is the M.O.?
In 2010, the American automobile manufacturer Chrysler released several of its employes for negligent behavior after they were caught on camera drinking and possibly smoking marijuana during their lunch break. After many months of a union-backed arbitration process, however, Chrylser was forced to rehire the workers.
Was it 'all the Chrysler workers, or 15? Because I think you said....
Imagine all the Wal-Mart workers drunk and high stocking shelves.
So either come up with an example of ALL union workers drunk and high, or maybe admit that you are prone to hyperbole, and really have nothing legitimate to say.
while you are technically correct on a semantic argument you've completely missed the broader (and more important) point - unions have a habit of protecting even the worst employees, even if their actions during working hours might put other workers or customers in danger, or are just plain irresponsible. Somehow workers in non-union industries will get shit-canned for having a couple beers and blazing a joint during the day, but these assholes can't get fired? Doesn't this strike you as ridiculous? (and no, the answer is not"those other workers should unionize so they can get hammered on their lunch break too"!)
Union Workers Caught Drinking and Smoking Pot on the Job Again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX7KlUgdCDk
"I'll just smoke my way on to the 40-man."
Ford or GM. They were on the news smoking dope and drinking on their lunch hours then building the car you drive next to.
Have a nice day
I don't have to imagine it; already happens at most Wally World locations. How will a union change anything - save for making them higher-paid addicts, and raising prices store-wide?
I can't stand to be 1/4 mile near that place. Such....amazing classy people, I just don't think I'd fit in.
Because only morons prefer to enjoy a substantial discount for the same goods available at a higher price elsewhere. Smart folks always pay more!
If certain folks could, they would force you to spend your money only in places they deem acceptable. It's the new freedom
of choice in the USSA.
The experience in a large retail establishment like Walmart - or Costco for that matter, is a lesson in herd mentality - on so many different levels.
If you don't like Walmart don't shop there.
So far as I know, no one is forcing you.
Anti-Union is anti-collectivism, therefore it's anti-communism and anti-fascism.
"Workers of the World, Unite. You have nothing to lose but your chains!”
- Karl Marx, Communist Manifesto
Did ya hahaha read the one about the Osama papers ha ha ha
Bin Laden Had Claimed U.S. Was Losing War With al Qaeda
http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-releases-trove-of-books-letters-seized-i...
Walmart customers should be forced to pay a stupid tax just for walking in the door.
Those who don't shop at Wal-mart because they believe that paying substantially more to some other corporation for the same items are already paying a tax upon their stupidity as well as their misguided self righteousness.
It truly depends on your income bracket. For some, the loss of time of waiting on a 20-25 minute checkout line is not worth the potential savings of going to a Walmart. I can go into a Target or HEB and get in and out in 1/2 the time. So if time is valuable to you--e.g., a $10,000/hour wage rate hedge fund manager or $500/hour physician, etc. or a $750/hour small business owner--then the economics dictate that shopping in stores smaller or merely with faster checkout lanes than Walmart is worth it. For the 1%, sure Walmart is the better value, but not for everyone.
I check out in the garden supply department. No line, right by the door and I can leave with a full cart for under fifty bucks.
+1 Misguided self righteousness is what drives progressivism.
any one would think that working for walmart was like joining the federation in star trek.... fact is these grunts are just dispoasable, unskilled minimum wave nothings,
unions might be crap, but corporate fascism is probably worse...
But i will close 500 stores
And i will close 500 more
Just to be the first to close a 1000 stores
Do I win a prize ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__4S9rHaMmg
And here come the communist union supporters
Communists are those who put unsustainable businesses on welfare and therefore rigging the whole economy until everything collapses.
So how do they buy stocks in the company?
Can they trade in their food stamps or how does it work?
Unions need to be banned. Companies need to go back to making people work 80 hour weeks for 50 cents an hour unencumbered by communist union agitators.
Just shoot anyone that says ''Union'' The good old Murican way,
Unions are cover for the communist movement. They do not represent the best interests of their members. What are all the big shot unions leaders flying all over and living in the best of the best while many of their members scrape to get by.
Wake up
Yep,. look at what happend to those countries where they have labour unions and high wages and low unemployment.
They are on the bottom of the list. Germany etc etc
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/21...
Communist troll 14 weeks..
hahaha, shit for brains asswipe like you don't know shit from shinola and deserve to be paid 50 cents and hour.
Better than commie unions , right? SMDH. so many fucking retards in America no wonder you shitheads are so poor. Gutless people.
Dutch boy couldn't hack it in the US. Had to move to Europe where he could compete.
When you corner a leftist .... they resort to ad hominy attacks !
Sounds like all major US corporations.
All corporations are equal but some (Walmart with customers) are more equal than others (union with members).
Walmart decides what vendors stocks their shelves. The real story is the vendors like Jarden.com. A bunch of NY jewish guys who go around and buy strong American brands, products manufactured in the US, they then send the manufacturing to China to maximize profits for Wall Street.
"Who cares about America my profits are for me and and my homeland Israel! I want a condo on Rothschild Blvd right next to Zuckerburger the code theif."
Oh! I forgot this is Zerohedge. Don't ban me bro.
Manufacturing is a terrible way to grow an economy. New, innovative technologies are what drives the most growth. Manufacturing is historically a low-margin endeavor and it's good that Americans are free from its chains and are able to pursue more productive work.
Then ban burger building because its listed as manufacturing. Leave the mfg to Europeans and Chinese. Look where they rank here on this list,. Right at the bottom.
Mfg sucks.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/21...
Fu*k!! That's a stupid comment! Sorry, couldn't help myself this time, but the comments from some of these brain-dead imbiciles builds up to a breaking point with enough of them!
Too late! The banishment order just went out. Your IP is delisted.
When leftists rant .... we don't ban them .... we showcase them !
I always thought you were a house negro, woops I mean thug.
Nice thug, nice. I likie.
Millions of people have seen this video. I don't know how this can be considered "leaked."
Pretending that they caught somebody at something to make the other guy look bad and make themselves look like heroes. Propaganda pure and simple.
Only thing that matters is the shareholders. The people who really work hard toiling day and night watching the ticker tapes.
The scum working in the stores that talk about organizing needs to be shot on sight,
Shareholding employees? Sounds like some kinda hippy cooperative commune.
Employees need not buy shares. Their wages need to be lowered so true Americans the shareholders can profit more.
Nothing but spics, niggers and white trash working at Walmart. Not worth more than 50 cents and hour.
They are commies if they want more.
The fact that you employ hundreds of thousands of low skilled workers at a rate of pay higher than they can produce lends great credence to your argument. Where do I apply, boss?
Lay off Walmart .... good pun .... but, they are in a hostile world .... and they're learning to protect themselves .... I'm all in for Walmart .... they cut my credit from $700 to $100 .... and they were right to do so .... the rest of my credit cards suffered a terminal fate !
My favorite line from the video: "They took dues money out of my paycheck before I ever saw it, just like taxes! Believe me, joining a union isn't something I'd ever want to do again!"
Yet paying taxes is perfectly fine.
If one complains that union dues are like paying taxes and that paying union dues is burdensome then one implies that taxes are burdensome as well. That''s what makes it an apt analogy.
Workers should individually demand that their employers be responsible and NOT pay any taxes. Same for the employers.
I think it is feasible to get a social agreement not to pay any taxes or report anything to authorities. And it doesn't have to be an organization like unions are (with fees, hierarchy, etc.).
I'm a big fan of Gary Larson, too !
Unions are pure bullshit. They take your money, spend it on what they want to spend it on and do NOT make anything better. Fuck 'em!
Bingo, they are all commies. Better to pay 50 cent an hour and have the owners of the business live the high life than those commie union leaders.
American unions pay about a billion dollars per election cycle for political impact. Why don't they simply use that cash to buy their own factories so that they don't have to work for the evil capitalists anymore?
Because their skills are strictly parasitical and they know it, that's why.
When technology progresses and skilled labor shortages develop, workers dictate conditions and union groups often form. Unions take credit for improving working conditions, when in reality market demand and the desire of employers to attract the best talent through perks does it without their help. Labor conditions improve in spite of the negative union drag. When jobs are in short supply, employers run the show. Unions dissolve as they inhibit increases in productivity and competitiveness.
If it weren't for stubbornness of the auto workers union, jobs wouldn't have gone to 3rd world countries. Sure, wages and benefits would've been slashed, but it would've been better than nothing that we got instead.
Now with automation all private sector unions are on the endangered species list. Govt jobs are safe for now, but even they are subject to declining tax revenues. Greedy bitches will eventually tear eachother to shreds, fighting for scraps.
I have no beef with Walmart. They are a business. Everything is a business. They are afraid of unions because they raise costs and decrease productivity. The video is pure propaganda, but anyone with half a brain cell will see through it and draw their own conclusions. Businesses don't benefit from employing union workers and workers only benefit from such organizations if job security isn't an issue to begin with. When jobs are scarce, unions are powerless to do anything about it. Just like govt. they don't create anything but redistribute wealth the way they see fit. They are addicted to exponential growth just like the governments and the banks, unable to handle even the tiniest declines.
Walmart clip is full of lies, but so is every union pitch I've encountered thoughout my career.
If it weren't for stubbornness of the auto workers union, jobs wouldn't have gone to 3rd world countries. Sure, wages and benefits would've been slashed, but it would've been better than nothing that we got instead.
So the solution was there all along! All the auto workers had to do was accept the same pay as 3rd world countries. It's all so simple now.
In fact, all manufacturing jobs could stay in the US if everyone would just accept 3rd world wages and benefits. That's one hell of a solution. Some would call it genius.
Unions don't create jobs and therefore cannot offer job security. When inflated wages and benefites combined with refused concessions cause entire factories to shut down and migrate you're left with less than a 3rd world wage - you're left with nothing.
Enjoy the ride.
unions offer a unified voice in order to discuss / negotiate wages, benefits, working conditions and more. The idea that unions do nothing is laughable and ignorant. With no unions the individual worker has extremely little say in what happens.
Your example of no job or 3rd world pay is an imaginary one. In real life, there are still unionized auto workers that have made concessions in order to remain competitive.
In your scenario, the end result for autoworkers, would have been disastrous with no possible good outcome. Needless to say, your scenario happens without unions.
My end result is Detroit. I guess you never heard of it.
there are many unionized auto workers in the US still producing vehicles. Where would production be and at what wage would people be making if there were no unions. Detroit's condition is not solely the result of unions. To use that as indication of the result of unions is a very shallow and superficial analysis.
I used to work at a place with a mix of union and non-union workers.
union rate when I started was $15.40.
After a few months, I negotated $20.60, with all the same "benefits" that the union guys got.
A year or so later the "union contract" was up for renewal.
During the negotiations the union agreed to compulsory taking of RDO's (rostered days off), which we previously worked and "cashed out" as a 12day pay "christmas bonus". AS an effect of this it means that we were perpetually short handed by one person being away on their RDO. The work still neded to be done so in effect the union had negotiated both a work increase and a pay decrease. In addition the pay increase for forklift operators was dropped in negotations, despite the increase in responsibilty they had been asked to take on in the preceeding year.
The irony was that the "union rep" didnt understand this until after I explaied it to him. Which was immediatly following the statement "the union just negotated a great contract, dont you think you should become a member?" I finished with "If I want to pay to get fucked, I'll go to a brothel"
plenty of non-union businesses will listen to their employees' voice (unified or not) on those things you mentioned, so unions offer no discernible advantage there. I would not say unions do nothing, but I would argue they are mostly useless and irrelevant. It seems the majority of american workers agree with me because private sector union membership has been declining for years (it's only through the public sector that they've been able to somewhat stem the tide). Even when offered, workers in union-heavy industries elect not to join - think the VW plant a year or two ago.
That said, if a bunch of folks want to try and form a union at a private company or an outside union wants to try and attract new members, I say have at it, that's their right to try. But the company has every right to make their case against the union (which is getting harder to do) and the employees have every right to vote either way without fear of intimidation (which is also increasingly a problem, ahem, union thugs).
I'm in the same situation. Been offered to join unions and always politely declined. I'm a skilled worker and I have no problem negotiating contracts and salaries. I get more work because I'm not unionized. I say, if I can do someone else's work for less, I deserve to get the job. If someone else can do my job better and cheaper, I'm not going to go to my employer and start threatening action. I'll make sure that my own skills are up to par and that I'm still marketable.
I have no problem with private sector unions. If they get greedy and ask too much, the business shuts down and they're left with nothing - exactly what they deserve for being economically illiterate. Public sector is a whole other beast. They buy politicians by offering bulk votes and in exchange get salaries out of government coffers. They aren't playing with their own money and instead of forcing business into bankruptcy, they bankrupt everybody else who may or may not even rely on their services.
I hate entitlement mentality. If you're a decent worker - you are your own protection. You don't need a thug army backing you up. If, on the other hand, you are unemployable or think you deserve more money than you can negotiate, then it's a whole other story. Then, indeed, union is right for you.
Modern day America is for the most part fat, lazy and unprofessional. With no union support these kinds of people would be totally screwed!
Capitalism shares the work with those who need it most .... regardless of race, creed or country of oregon .... wow, that sounds almost like communism ! LOL
Want to work? ... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-22/it-five-time-more-difficult-get...
Look at the low lifes scum they have working at Walmart.
Stupid bitches that have 3 or 4 kids and no husband.
Let them rot and pay them 2 bucks an hour and if they don't like it shoot them.
Will you do the democracy dance to.. Come on... let it all out... You have so much anger in you
Show me what democracy looks like,,,, this is what democracy looks like...
haaha, you retards aren't even worth 50 cents an hour, Walmart bosses are doing the right thing . they need to LOWER wages . their employees are scum
There you go insulting the people you originally tried to show support for..
Deek..
Just let it out.. Tell us you are a communist. You know you want to... Just be truthful
Neither Walmart nor its customers are truly evil so in order to make his little fantasy work he has to play the villain himself. He thinks it makes his enemies look bad, silly fella.
Stop the commie unions.
Make those niggers, spics and white trash working at Walmart work for 50 cenets and hour and if they don't like it. just put up 'suicide nets;
Mandatory overtime with NO pay is also what they deserve.
The real Americans the shareholders , decent people deserve to profit.
Your comments are racist. You should be banned from this site.
Fuck off you Commie bastard, Commies everywhere with your poitical correct crap.
You should seek some help with your anger. It is clear you cannot think straight with your problem.
I feel for you.
Have a nice night.
He obviously has union connections and is talking his book which of course means that anyone else who talks their book is pure evil in his opinion. That's what happens when one's only skill is slacking off and complaining.
Banned from this site? We are all racists here. Don't you know it's the new thing to be ala Ferguson, Baltimore, NYC. Slavery made us this way.
I like to think we calls it like we sees it.
No, I like him.
Very entertaining.....especially after he's eaten a few cans of Sterno.
Let's not miss the irony of The Associate Stawk Purchase Plan. I had to look that up and found an interesting thread that any ZH'er will get a chuckle out of.
Question:
"I was recently hired to a permanent part-time position at a Wal-Mart, and found out that there is an employee stock purchase plan, where you can have a certain amount ($2 minimum) removed from each paycheck and put into Wal-Mart stock. Wal-Mart matches 15% of the money you put in, up to $1800. (I believe this is per year.)
Wal Mart employees do not become eligible for the 401k plan until they have been working at Wal-Mart for one year. While I don't plan on working at wal-mart forever, I do expect to be working here for over a year, so long as I don't fall victim to unforseen layoffs.
My Financial Situation:
I don't have all the expenses one might normally need to take into consideration. I don't need to worry about paying for groceries or housing. I do need to pay for car expenses, (I live well within 30 mins walking distance of the wal mart if this goes to hell) and I have 6k in student loans from a few failed semesters at college. I intend to return, this time for computer science. I am learning on my own for now. I will be setting up an emergency fund beginning with my first paycheck, as well as some general savings. I don't need much spending money.
I can't be sure I'll get steady hours in the future, but I have 32 hour workweeks for the next 3 weeks at ~$8.80 per hour. I managed to avoid being hired as temporary/seasonal, so when hours are cut, I'm told that mine will be slashed less deeply than theirs.
So, what do you think I should do? Am I forgetting anything important that may be a factor?"
The answers vary in levels of stupidity but I liked this one.
"I did this when I worked at Walmart, and used around $30 each paycheck (which probably isn't enough to get any real results)
When I got a different job I "cashed out" and realized that I got the same amount back as I would have if I had just put that $30 per paycheck into a savings account. But I also got taxed on it, which sucked."
I have some actual work to do if I am going to get my car flipping business off the ground. There are some gems in the responses though. Here you go if you want to read moar.
https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/26dsvz/im_a_22_year_old_who_just_got_a_job_at_a_walmart/
It's hilarious and bone deep disturbing at the same time. I think I would have to take my chances with "car flipping" over being a "permanent part time" at Walmart. These people can't afford to survive let alone buy into 401k what a joke.
You can tell that the malamide, lead and other various chemicals have taken their toll when people believe their products are the same as everywhere else. Maybe soon but not yet, thank God.
This company is Communist, that's why we all have to support their employees with welfare and little kids die making their products. Fuck Walmart.
I have never worked for Wal-mart. I got jammed on an auction bid that I didn't make yesterday so I ended up with this 02 Impala for $791.25 with 233K all told. My winning bid was $450 I figured whatever and bitched a bit but I thought maybe I can make few bucks. It's a piece of shit, but runs and drives, has brand new Firestone tires on Voxx rims. Who does that sort of shit? People of Wal-mart do. That is where that thing goes for sale until they kick me out of their parking lot. I will ask $1500 OBO.:-) Some idiot will pay 1K at least because you can't find a car that runs and drives for less than a grand anymore. Thin margins on that one.
I have vehicles for sale at all times and I make some money fucking around with them but I might lose here. We might have our first ZeroHedge.com demolition derby car that I know of. I have always wanted to do a demolition derby anyway. I would take those rims and tires off and sell them seperately and find some junkyard specials to replace them. The windshield is good and the windows are good and actually roll up and down. Fucking around with parting shit out sucks but I at least need my money stake back and I can get that I am sure but it might take a while. I will send Banzai7 a photo of this hotrod and see what he thinks.
That car is worth $500 at the bone yard.. with no rims and tires, which you could gst at least $200ea for, I'd say you didn't do as bad as you think.
Good for you. My son bought and sold cars all through highschool. One day I received a notice that he was going to have to get a dealers license if he continued. He made a decent amount of money.
I had a conversation not that long ago with a guy that opened one of those cheap ghetto car dealerships with in house financing. If the cars are purchased cheap enough at auction or fixed cheaply there is almost no risk as the purchaser pays the price of the car for downpayment, everything else is gravy. He was doing quite well with it.
What many here overlook
is that the "unions" they rail against
are what has been created by the ruling establishment.
From the "Red Scare" after WW1
and the repressing and banning of the Wobblies,
Taft-Hartley etc.
the restrictions on what could be the issues for the AFL and CIO organize around and strike,
the current nature of "worker" unions in the US is
better described as deceitful variants of "company" or "corporate" unions.
Attacking workers for organizing in general
based specifically on what US unions have been channeled to become,
is myopic.
Attacking workers for organizing in general
based specifically on what US unions have been channeled to become,
is myopic.
Yes, but we are talking about the union protection racket here and not employees organizing according to their own natural rights.
If all those nigger and white trash cunts would stop spitting out babies and have abortions they wouldn't have to whine about low wages. They would be well off.
Well off .... The City of Los Angeles voted for mandatory minimum wage of $15 /HR (BY 2020) ... so much for the need to unionize ... oh! except to get moar
I'm reading sarcasm, not sure about others. Even libertarians like to couch their racism and classism with the Horatio Alger myth.
Too bad medicaid doesn't pay for abortions; maybe more of those poor women might be able to get an education and lift themselves out of poverty (with a lot of luck). In any case, the best way to bring down birth rates is through education and fighting poverty, along with good contraception.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/unplanned-births-ano...
They forgot to mention the $1.50 hotdog.
Soylent Green.
Two facts.
1.This behemoth should be dismantled since it is dangerous parasite to local and global economy, to small business and is true jobs destroyer. Changes employed people into beggars for social welfare.
2. The US Unions are not trade unions. They are guilds or syndicates created to extorts from business money and benefits for their own closed membership to detriment of workforce at large. Since 1950-ties mafia run trade unions suppressed wages for all non-union workers by selling them out. True unions represent ALL workers in given industry, members or not, from small business to big business in every branch or type of profession.
Changes employed people into beggars for social welfare.
I live on less than minimum wage and all my bills are paid. One way I do that is to shop at Walmart. Paying less for what some other corporation down the street is charging 40% more for helps poor folks. Those who aren't limousine liberals understand that.
They stole money that belong to you by not paying you enough and hence you do not contribute enough to taxes for common good. And then your taxes are stolen anyway. The Walmart lobby for all of this and make huge profits. By the way Walmart joined the banksters. Tomorrow they will want you to live of half what you get today. Just watch.
The only bad union is a Public Employees Union ... where there is no adversarily relationship with management ... they just all try to get the most they can. What we need are members of the electorate on the other side of negotiations.
100% agree. Pay and conditions are determined by union members negotiating hard with themselves. And then let the taxpayer pick up the tab. Unions should be banned in the public sector.
yep. even FDR saw that trap.
IN the 1950;s when America was almost all COMMIE and had lots of unions thoses cunts stayed home and took care of kids and hubby worked 40 hours a week for a liveable wage.
Fucking COMMIES they were,
EVeryone must work, women and men, 2 or 3 jobs to pay the bills,
Thats the American way.
Those Commie days are over thanks to Ronald Reagan.
You're working from a union shop right now, aren't you. Enjoy your "free time."
hahaa I have been retired for almost 10 years here in commie world.
No debt home paid.
Communism sucks.
Ha, ha! I have two paid off homes and no debt. Self employed (but semi-retired at 51). I do as little paid work as possible in order to reduce the taxes I have to pay for collectivist wars and other amoral government disasters. I cut my own firewood and grow some of my own food.
Glad I learned that self reliance pays. Otherwise I'd still be a member of the low wage bitch about the boss crowd to which I used to belong.
" do as little paid work as possible in order to reduce the taxes I have to pay for collectivist wars and other amoral government disasters. I cut my own firewood and grow some of my own food."
Good on ya! And you're not spending your golden years in a pot cafe in a drunken stupor like a dyke fingerer...
Standards of living depend on the amount of cheap energy available. We pased our domestic oil production peak in the 70's. Did the standards of living deflate to reflect the rising cost of energy, or did we sail into the new millenium thinking it was going to be like the 50's forever and ever?
It helped that we also won WW2 and the defeated countries were in a shambles, buying all their needed stuff from us.
It's all a poaching game.
I would rather that the Waltons and shareholders get filty stinking rich than the union leaders make a few bucks fighting for the workers.
The workers are in the most part lazy scum, How hard do you see them work at Walmart?
Not worth 50 cents an hour.
Your hourly rate figure is only off by 1,750%
yes but those wages can be lowered anytime they want. Thats the great thing about NO UNIONS.
Do you mean that the people who own Walmart actually have the ability to spend their money as the see fit? That should be against the law!
But seriously dude, where's my check? I have provided you no goods or services and therefore you owe me money. Don't be evil like Walmart.
Oh, what a tangled web we (At Walmart Corporate) weave.
Wow... Walmart had some great one liners in that Propaganda Piece.
I wonder how many Walmart Corporate Propaganda Brainstorming sessions it took to come up with all those cute one liners.
I'd love to see the Labor Union retorts to those accusations.
It's obviously a Labor vs Management War Of Ideas And Minds.
A Zero Sum Game.
Winners and Losers.
All About The Really Big Bucks.
Personally, I just like to see a good game.
Those commies in Germany kicked out Walmart after 2 years because they didn't like being treated like slaves.
Fucking German commies.
Published this week and written by journalists Günther Lachmann and Ralf Georg Reuth, the book quotes Gunter Walther, a former colleague of hers at the Academy of Sciences in East Berlin, as saying she had been secretary for "Agitation and Propaganda" in the Freie Deutsche Jugend (FDJ) youth organization at the institute. Merkel, a trained physicist, worked at the academy from 1978 until 1989.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/new-book-suggests-angela-mer...
Merkel is a political chameleon. Commie country? Be the best Communist. Suddenly transported into a capitalist one? Be the best capitalist. My own belief is that such an unprincipled hunger for power has landed her with a rich source of blackmail from the various intelligence services.
Only losers would work or shop at Walmart. Harsh Yes but True.
A Flea and Farmers Market are far classier establishments.
Hey, niggers and white trash ,and welfare mothers need to work too,
They were made for Walmart and the Waltons and shareholders thanks them.
Walmart is thoroughly disgusting.
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/
Yes, but at least its not Communist. L0L
Walmart is thoroughly disgusting.
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/
Gotta love the liberals. They hate Walmart because Walmart hurts poor people and in order to prove that they make fun of poor people who shop at Walmart. That's what is meant by, "the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel."
Under Soviet communism everyone had to work, women, men,
In America without communism , women dont need to work because in America there are high wages and the women can stay home and raise healthy children.