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118 Handguns, 1 AK-47, 157 Knives, Body Armor Recovered From Biker Shootout Scene
On Sunday, a dispute about a parking lot escalated into a dispute in a parking lot at the Waco Twin Peaks Bar And Grill. When all was said and done, the “true biker shootout” left 9 bikers dead, 18 bikers stabbed and/or shot, and 170 bikers arrested.
Sorting out precisely what went wrong when a “loose confederation” of biker gangs gathered at the Texas “breastaurant” to discuss matters of mutual interest has so far been challenging, but authorities believe they may have gotten to the bottom of the matter.
Apparently, the event got off to a rather inauspicious start when the Cossacks showed up uninvited. After that, one biker accidentally rolled over another biker’s shoe, at which point the battle was officially joined, proving once again that it doesn’t take much to turn a biker gang annual meeting into a shootout.
ABC has more:
A deadly weekend shootout involving rival motorcycle gangs apparently began with a parking dispute and someone running over a gang member's foot, police said Tuesday.
Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton said an uninvited group appeared for Sunday's meeting of a loose confederation of biker gangs at a restaurant.
One man was injured when a vehicle rolled over his foot. That caused a dispute that continued inside the restaurant, where fighting and then shooting began, before the melee spilled back outside, Swanton said.
Authorities offered few details. It was not clear which gang was responsible for running over the biker's foot or which gang the aggrieved biker belonged to...
Preliminary autopsy results showed all nine of the dead were killed by gunshots. Many were hit in the head, neck, chest or torso. Most of the men were in their 40s, but they ranged in age from 27 to 65, according to reports released by a McLennan County justice of the peace.
Police have acknowledged firing on armed bikers, but it was unclear how many of the dead were shot by gang members and how many were shot by officers.
One thing about biker gang meetings is that coming unarmed could be the last mistake you’ll ever make. Additionally, there's no way to know, going in, how far things might escalate, so it's best to prepare for everything, with hand-to-hand combat being the base case but acknowledging, if only to yourself, that there are a variety of bear case scenarios, including, but certainly not limited to: a bat fight, knive-throwing, a motorcycle chain battle, or ultimately, a true biker shootout.
Given the above, we weren't surprised to learn that the number of weapons found hidden at Twin Peaks exceeded the number of bikers present.
Via The Waco Police Dept. Facebook page:
Weapons Count Update
I have asked the Crime Scene Supervisor to give me a more firm count of weapons discovered from the Twin Peaks Restaurant so far. The first number I gave this morning was a best guess estimate from looking at the overall crime scene and was over estimated. My apologies for the confusion and I should have waited to release a more specific count not estimate.
The crime scene officers specifically stopped at my request to count weapons and have now been able to determine that count and it is 318 and still counting. We do expect the numbers to continue to rise. Please understand this is an extremely complex crime scene and they specifically took the time out to be able to give me a more accurate account late this afternoon. Those weapons include clubs, knifes, brass knuckles, firearms, and chains with padlocks attached to them intended and used as weapons.
The earlier estimate was an attempt to give me a count and it was initially believed the number was higher than we now know. We stand corrected at 318 and counting, with the crime scene still being processed. The weapons appear to have been discarded as Officers arrived and some hastily hidden. The have been found in sacks of chips, stuffed between bags of flour, stuffed into the bench seating, hidden in shelves, thrown into trash cans, placed in the kitchen stoves, discarded on floors and even so far as to attempt to flush a handgun down a commode. An Ak-47 was found in a vehicle parked in the parking lot as well as body armor.
Weapon breakdown so far is this:
118 Handguns
1 Ak-47
157 Knives
43 others
With that, we can offer the following speculative reconstruction of the incident:
The Cossacks didn’t get an invite to the Twin Peaks meeting but decided to crash the party. When they arrived in the parking lot, tempers flared and in the heat of the moment, someone inadvertently ran over someone else’s foot. At that point, all present simultaneously realized that hostilities were imminent, prompting a mad rush for everything from automatic weapons to chains with padlocks.
The rest, as they say, is biker gang history.
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to attempt to flush a handgun down a commode."
So you need a sub room temperature IQ to join one of these gangs?
Don't mess with Texas!
In a strange occurrence, there was no blood found.
RIPS
Sounds like a lot of cops carry a lot of "drop guns/drop knives" these days.
Back in my prime, they just carried one, and not all of them did that.
They used to call the guns "throwdowns," readily available to cops until police property clerk offices had to keep better records of the weapons the police impounded.
"118 Handguns, 1 AK-47, 157 Knives, Body Armor Recovered From Biker Shootout Scene"
And I'm sure all the gun-control laws in the world would have prevented these model citizens from having them at the fracas.
If' we're gonna confiscate guns, we better start with.....
I don't know the point. Even in Komifornia an AK47 is perfectly legal, as are handguns.
How many tasers would found?
When pedophilia is outlawed, only outlaws will be pedophiles.
You can have the 4 and 6 year olds that I fuck when you pry them from my cold dead hand.
so Santa Clause apparently moonlights as a biker gang member ? WTF !! (6th row up from bottom, 4th in from left)
another observation : 12th row down, 4th guy over ... apparently ran out of Just For Men while doing his beard or what ?!
Guy's half black.
Duh!
<Rimshot>
Speaking of which - there are some serious hair-don'ts in that lineup.
Four down, five across, for instance - wtf?
Seems a bit two-faced!
Damn straight. That guy was a cop before he joined the Bandidos. Wonder if he still does cop work? Provocations, maybe? And how the hell could the cops get 170 bikers to drop their weapons and stand still for arrest, unless they already mowed down a bunch of them? This whole thing smells like a setup from the beginning.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/waco-twin-peaks-biker-gang-shootou...
Almost 200 bikers gather in a public place, with cops on the ready, this shit goes down and no video leaks out. WTF. And where are the extra 32 people for the mugshot (hospital, I presume)
The restaurant didn't have any security cameras?
The waco pd didn’t get an invite to the Twin Peaks meeting but decided to crash the party. When we arrived in the parking lot, somebody didn't seem happy to see us.
next thing you know, 318 weapons.
early civil-asset christmas.
Highly likely. There was an interview with a waitress immediately after the incident. Her account was that everyone was outside, and they were told don't go out, and I think locked the doors. Now how do those weapons get "hidden" inside?
I think I kinda sorta smell bullshit. This pistol is all that and a bag-o-chips!
But, did you know they found a terrrrist job application at Osama's resort?
Yep, it's all true. The Media said so.
pods
170 arrested and only 118 handguns found? Slackers.
It's a small club..........etc.
118 or 318? I see two numbers in the story.
Yup, Obama's diaries and his private thoughts on just about everything including global warming.
Obama was a poet terrorist with an opinion. He sure could write a lot!
What do you think about the individual on the 3rd last row, all the way to the left. Crazy.
I bet the guy 11th row from the bottom, dead center is either the brain of the operation or the accountant. Either that or an alien from planet Mellon Head
11 rows up from bottom, second from right...its Fonestar. Always wondered where he went.
Waitin' on that bitcrap renaissance. Down about $400 over the last year.
His momma used to have a tight pussy
I was thinking the guy 10th row down, second from left looks like Droopy Dog.
1 - Sounds like a party.
2 - If Joe Biden had a son...
3 - Don't do meth!
4 - 16 rows down... in the middle - "That's my grandmother!"
"118 Handguns, 1 AK-47, 157 Knives, Body Armor Recovered From Biker Shootout Scene"This was just from the local patrons
Hey, at least he didn't try to flush it down a urinal...
Fun to look through the mug shots and see which one might have done that.
My guess: column 2, row 9.
Only two wymen persons.
Sexus!
I looked at the mugshots. 138 of 'em. I counted 54 that obviously looked over 40. If I had to think about it, I didn't include them as over 40. 39% appeared over 40. What does that mean? I don't know. I just always thought it was funny how every time I see "bikers", as identified by the costumes they wear, they always seem like middle aged dudes.
I asked one a few years ago if you had to be over 40 to join these days? He laughed.
Actually, I'm surprised at how many bikers, and how many "clubs" there are??!!
AARP
biker gang...
They are called survivors.
You would want them as a friend in many upcoming scenarios.
"So you need a sub room temperature IQ to join one of these gangs?"
"as well as body armor"
There may be hope ...
There's a rumor going around that the cops did all of the shooting.
And also that the rival gangs were there to negotiate/celebrate a truce...which of course the cops couldn't allow.
Ban Bikers.
When you outlaw outlaw bikers only outlaw outlaw bikers will be outlaw bikers.
It's the PACIFIER EFFECT: To Have them, but not Use them against TPTB. As we've seen time and again.
But buy moar G & A, and thus giving those Guns & Ammo executives their nice lifestyle and X-Mass blowout bonuses. /sarc
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Yep. All here.
Where are all the Texas malls going to find new Santa's for next Christmas?
Cops can put anything they want in police reports. Including shit that's impossible like accelerating from zero to over 100mph in half a block with a one ton dually pickup. They'll also spell your name a couple of different ways so it makes it sound like you have an alias. They can make a first offence speeding ticket read like your a fugitive from justice. So, I wouldn't put it past them to put that in there to make bikers look stupid. It would be considered heresay, but the police report launders it so it can be submitted as evidence.
Banditos don't need no stinking IQ test
A commode? T'as dit commode??
Time for Brigitte again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s78WZjzIYxk
oui oui oui
Time to start banning knives and bats. Knives and bats kill people.
Were there any PEZ dispensers among the 38 "other" items. Sugar is bad for your health, you know. The AP story using the Twin Peaks video camera paints an entirely different picture from the police account. An account that leaves out whether the police had a trigger happy informer within the Cossacks.
The first day showed a "cop" standing with an AR. Had on boots, the beard, etc.
He was probably the one they should have swabbed for powder residue.
Smells like BS. Either complete fake, or agent provocateur fired first to get the cops to start whacking them.
pods
Time to start euthanizing anyone with less than 60 IQ like these bikers and YOU gun nuts.
And you wonder why people think that they need personal weapons?
Hint ... to protect themselves from the likes of YOU.
Dutchie is dumb.
Look like ISIS prisoners.
Where were the AUTOMATIC WEAPONS the author says were present at this incident........??
cops had em.
Most likely they are calling the AK47 an automatic weapon -
If it was a REAL AK47 it would be automatic - but more likely a AK47 "style" weapon that is just a semi auto.
Or - maybe the gun was modified to allow full auto - if you have a file or a hacksaw blade you can convert an AK style rife to shoot full auto in about 5 minutes.
I'll chalk it up to ignorance or agenda on the part of the Author. BTW converting an AK into functioning full auto requires quite a bit more than a file or hacksaw, unless you intend to forge the necessary missing parts out of the file......
My Hungarian AMD-65 parts kit came with the full auto disconnector, the straight sear, rate ruducer and axis pin. It's pretty much just drilling a third hole in the new receiver blank and you're off to the races.
Cheers,
Nolde
B.S. File away the sear and you run the risk that the gun will fire out of battery taking part of your face with it.
Good point - being able to do something and being able to do something safely are not the same thing.
A knife is semi-automatic...,
kinda, sorta;)
I bet most of the pistols were SEMI-Automatic as well. BTW owning Fully AUTOMATIC weapons is quite legal in most of America. Words have meaning......
The automatic weapons probably belonged to the police officers, some of whom opened fire at the bikers. I'm guessing that they didn't hit anyone, because there was no mention of bystanders being shot.
Anyone know if the Cossacks were incited to crash the party by some undercover FBI types? Or does that only work for ISIS wannabes?
According to the author, speaking of the Bikers.......
At that point, all present simultaneously realized that hostilities were imminent, prompting a mad rush for everything from automatic weapons to chains with padlocks.
What? They carried guns into a gun free zone? Didn't they read the signs? I find it intersting that they were willing to kill each other, but the moment the police showed up they started hiding their shit. Very telling.
Only fools think they can win against the infinite resources of government, either in firepower or money printing. We are only left to react in a defensive posture.
How are they differentiating the guns the "bikers" actually hid from the guns anyone else there might have hid (patrons or staff). Impounding and searching venicles in any parking lot in Texas or countless other States is going to yield lots of "weapons".
I'm glad I was not there. I always have a legal size folding knife clipped in place in one of my front pockets. I guess I would have been in the pictures as some sort of affliliated criminal type.
I hear that a not insignificant number of the bikers had concealed carry licenses. Something the police aren't saying.
It's because they know who the biggest gang is.
It's like an Easter egg hunt for the LEO Neanderthals.
Hundred of people at the escene and not one video from a cell phone of the shoot out.
Meanwhile, many of you idiots are distracted by the mug shots. Mission accomplished in distracting you from:
1. There was no shooting.
2. There is no due process.
3. This looks like a Jade Helm roundup.
What is getting my attention is that there are no stories (that I have seen) from the other side. Why are the citizens not getting air time, why is their lawyer not getting air time to announce the shooting was by the cops?
It looks like a pretty big shopping mall type big box center shopping center.
Not any real stories from witnesses. No one saw the shootings. This entire story is totally fishy.
Meanwhile they ask the girls with big hoots. Who giggle and say they ran into the "meat" locker.
Reminds me of General Betrayus and the two sluts with big hoots he was running around with.
Distract the masses.
This was a drill or some diatraction false flag.
There will be more.
With deteriorating economics combined with more stringent laws and enforcement, we will discover that more and more of us are "outlaws" whether we know it or not. As prohibitions increase we will be left with the choice of submitting or simply ignoring the law, which officially changes our status to outlaw. Once we find ourselves on the "group W" bench with the rest of the father rapers and mother stabbers, spiraling into a lawless world will become easier and easier.
Remember...this is about division. These bikers along with the hostilities in Ferguson and Baltimore are symptoms of our direction.
Leading indicators
Looks as tho the guns from "fast and furious" showed up...and seems they were shooting blanks because no blood. And why didnt the police stand down let them be, the same way they did during the baltimore riots? If the gangs were fighting amongst themselves, simply sit back and let them all kill each other. Then go and clean up the mess. This entire thing smells major fishy. Radioactive pacific ocean fishy.
Still feels like a cop "turkey shoot" given Zero officers wounded. Cops would have them stuffed if they could. Wait until ballistics.
Cops get all gushy with bikers and will blow off ALOT of shit your grandma would get shot for doing. Same street gang mentality I think.
What mad dog bikers are for Mercans just so are Mercans for the entire human family. An armed madhouse!
Well said and thats why Mercans are the most hated people on earth.
After you?
Bullshit
Cooter says: That's my story and I'm sticking with it!
Cops and press running this story because they can't identify 100% what started it.
Both gangs should start a JV and fight together instead of against each other. They both have one enemy in common and will need all their strength and resources soon enough.
...First they came for the Bandidos...
OMG an AK!?!??!?!! That's scuurrry!
And I'd like to see the "Body Armor". Most of the time that it is reported it's just a tactical vest with no plates.
They have built in body armour. 4 inches of lard.
Under Armour.
https://www.underarmour.com/en-us/womens
Natural mistake.
Two women in the Line up photo's, bet they were real party animals on a camp out..
I guess there weren't any legal conceal carry, with permit riders out that day, that held onto their guns and Said hello officer, glad you showed up...
you guys all wiped the fingerprints off the bullet casings before you loaded up the gun right cops are going to be busy for years like the old game for your kids where you draw the line and try to match .. the carrot to the bunny, worm to the fish. Cossack to the 9mm
I see three women, one twelve rows up from the bottom (middle row).
I bet I know where they tried to hide their weapons - knowing noone in their right mind would ever go there...
Wouldn't want to meet that bunch down in Coon Hollow. The words "squeal like a pig" come to mind.
The type that would say ''you sure got a purdy mouth''
For whatever reasons, the LEO seem to have not physically entered the melee initially, but had the stand-off necessary to use their guns/long-guns to quell and contain those involved in the mostly in-fighting. Judging by the pictures, the cats did in fact lie down with dogs, and allow the handful of LEO to make arrests among the various factions without active restraints (I.e., handcuffs, zip ties, etc.,).
I think this whole saga is pretty telling.
If, perhaps to avoid more serious criminal charges, sentences, and so forth, the weapons were not used against LEO and stashed instead, those LEO already on the scene were lucky.
IMO, the force of sheer numbers of "bad guys" vs. "good guys" could have easily been overwhelming had the bikers chosen to throw their full weight against LEO. Throw into the mix the amount of deadly weapons available on that scene to the bad guys, the LEO present would have been in the position of weakness and working from the defensive.
Very quickly, though, had such a scenario unfolded, the LEO on the scene would have been reinforced by other responders with more firepower to the incident, and it would have turned into an encirclement and siege, then slaughter by LEO of bikers. At that point, it would have been up to the bikers to make their getaways as best as possible on the best modes of transportation for such purposes, motorcycles.
Either the bikers involved did the right thing intuitively, or were prepared to do the "right" thing after the coordinated efforts against rivals even before arriving. At a minimum, upon arrival, all factions knew the LEO were also there, armed, and prepped.
This was a tremendous example of self-preservation among the bikers, obviously a tactic of "living to fight another day".
Had the LEO on the scene been or become the targets, the outcome would have been vastly different.
Again, just my opinion.
Column 4, 12 down.
Did he run out of "Just For Men", or is that on purpose?
I'm kinda over this "beard" trend
But, hey it looks good one you
s/
Better have a look at this:
https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2015/05/20/first-they-came-fo...
That raised some problematic questions when it my inbox earlier, the 2nd link at the end of the article was also worth reading
http://notmytribe.com/2015/deadliest-motorcycle-gang-in-waco-shoot-out-w...
A knife in the right hands has unlimited killing potential.
No need to reload a knife.
Don't even have to sharpen it to kill with it.
Don't outlaw knives or I'll have to sharpen my spoons.
You hae a license for that spork?
When sharpeners are outlawed, only outlaws will have...oh, never mind.
You're getting closer, but still not there yet.
OK there was a knock-down dragout fight between the Bandidos and the Cossacks. YEAH - they had a major brawl. BUT in spite of that fight, there is only evidence that ONE biker drew a pistol, and NO evidence that any biker shot anyone else. So the Waco PD saw one person with a gun, and then opened up with automatic weapons.
It's probably true that SOME people inside the restaurant were also outlaw gang members. BUT there were also members of the Christian Motorcycle Association, Harley clubs that restore bikes, and individuals who are just eating lunch. ALL these people HIT THE FLOOR, or piled into the Bathrooms, when the cops started shooting. They have ALL BEEN arrested on murder charges, even though their only crime was "having a beer, eating wings, and watching waitresses with big boobs".
The initial media reports were ALL WRONG.
And it's common for bikers to carry pocket knives - that doesn't mean that everyone is a mass murderer.
There is a FAILURE to separate fact from fiction in the news coverage of this incident.
This is why they sometimes call news coverage, "stories"........
Queue the comments from the little overgrown boy gun nutters.
On, you autistic fuck, exactly what should they say about the criminal biker gangs with guns and knives? That they're shocked they had them? Were they arrested just for having them? Did they have NRA patches? What? Let's have it smart guy.
You really need to lay off the Sterno. That shit will melt your liver.
I love how special you are, you little snowflake.
Run along now, adults are talking. You're not old enough to have an opinion on these things.
More and more evidence is coming to light that it was the gun and badge thugs that killed the people. That the thugs turned a fist and knife fight into their own personal shooting barrel.
My dad said that he "knew some shit wasn't right when the propaganda-media started carping about the responsibility of the restaurant owner."
And now they are going thru cars and such without warrants seizing property without due process of law so as to 1) have a photo op and justification for their murders, and 2) to later sell for lucre.
Just more tyranny and FUDD by tyranny.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
My Crimes Against the American People List (CAAPL), treason list, just keeps getting longer and longer.
Anything over a hundred million is a big number. We'll use the data center in the enemy state of Utah.
http://geopoliticainternazionale.blogfree.net/?t=5130276
Iran and Israel
Who cares if these guys killed each other and if they have weapons? Perfect way to get rid of them
Now you know why I only carry a 1 1/2" blade buckknife.
118 Handguns, 1 AK-47, 157 Knives, Body Armor Recovered From Biker Shootout Scene?Most folks i know have a lot more than theses bikers in their closet.
this is spin news from your gov.
Police have acknowledged firing on armed bikers, but it was unclear how many of the dead were shot by gang members and how many were shot by officers.
They were ALL shot by police from what I hear.
Hundreds of people there with cell phones that probably all have cameras. Waitresses with big hoots who probably take selfies of themselves every hour.
But not one video of the shooting??? How does that work?
Another zio distractionary fake event.
Define "fake" - if it was orchestrated because the chimps in Baltimore and Ferguson proved too docile and domesticated, then it is hardly fake. A tactical escalation in order achieve a strategic objective (the aquiescence of sheeple to "enhanced" police state) is NOT a distraction.
From the information released by the mainstream media it appeared that all the bikers were white. Looking at the mugshots it looks like a substantial minority were people of color. What gang lets in diversity or is it a separate gang of color?
"It’s now official. White Lives Don’t Matter, and woe to anyone who thinks they do."
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There were at least a couple of Mexicans with the Bandidos in the old days, '73. A few lived in my old neighborhood back then and we all drank and played kickball on Saturdays. --- Baby Huey, whasshappening!
Old time outlaw bikers were mostly about having fun. They had factory jobs or were members of a local. Most folks don't know that being an 'outlaw' means they aren't allowed to race at AMA sanctioned events, not that they are Frank and Jessie.
Except for the bandaged jaw on one old dude, they seem un-damaged from the terrible 'brawl'.
Brought to you from the administartion that hates white people
Green Arrow: Easily in the TOP FIVE TOTAL BULLSHIT STORIES so far this year.
Red Arrow: Barely cracks the TOP TEN.
Mr Patel is an immigrant from India, welcome to America!
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Waco-Shooting-Near-Twin-Peaks-In-Waco...
Statement from Jay Patel, Operating Partner, Twin Peaks Waco franchise:
"We are horrified by the criminal, violent acts that occurred outside of our Waco restaurant today.
We share in the community's trauma.
Our priority is to provide a safe and enjoyable environment for our customers and employees, and we consider the police our partners in doing so.
Our management team has had ongoing and positive communications with the police and we will continue to work with them as we all want to keep violent crime out of our businesses and community.
We will continue to cooperate with the police as they investigate this terrible crime," said Patel.
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4th row, #4 looks like Haloti Ngata. It's not him, but could be his brother.
Row 12, #4 (skunkbeard) is a retired cop, 32 years on the force.
Wouldn't be surprised if they all have something to do with law enforcement. There are sooooooo many informants operating these days, it's more likely than not.
I see they have their own Santa Claus...
...and one guy looks like he could be a humanities professor at Berkeley in his spare time...
Most of them look overweight, and out of shape.
Where do they get the money to do basically...nothing?
m
When do they get their free sneakers?
Butt, butt I thought there was A THOUSAND !!
Great photo. The heads that get smaller on the top had me laughing. Another good one was the one that resembles a wedge. Oh oh ohooooo and there is the that one with the 4 x 4 post shape. 118 handguns don't seem like enough to those dudes safe. And the one with the half white half black beard. WTF happened to him?
Looks like the mental image I have of congress.
Jesus Christ ZH, give it a rest already with this bullshit story. I'd hate to think you're approaching the ramp, about to jump the shark but perpetuating these stories about ridiculous hoaxes only reinforces how much you either don't get it, or are pushing an agenda. Me thinks it's the latter.
And yet,
here you are. Reacting. They knew you would.
Clever, no?
CNN.com will gladly accept your visits.
Noted cordial. Thanks so much for your contribution.
This is gonna be fun.
Some folks consider lead thrown at them to be bad manners that need to be accounted for.
Waco is going to look like the old Northern Ireland with both sides shooting at each other and both turning on the cops.
Lots of empty dirt outside of town for folks to 'disappear' into.
The shady bunch
No rocket launchers or IEDs?
IUDs.
What a handsome group of eligible bachelors!
And still no video. You ca't tell me none of those mutants have data plans.
Or why the "US" is backing off the whole "NSA takeover" thang.
All these dudes that were killed were killed by cops. Fish in a barrel.
http://www.agingrebel.com/12873
Only 138 people are pictured. If there are 170, then the other 32 may be in the hospital. Of the 138 pictured, only one has bandages on his face. No one else shows signs of having their face/head hammered. Could be they got wounds elsewhere. The melee may have "include[d] clubs, knifes, brass knuckles, firearms, and chains with padlocks attached to them intended and used as weapons" but it doesn't seem like it included all the bikers. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out the police were responsible for most of the dead and wounded. The fight started inside, but all the bodies are on the outside. All but one of the victims are members of the same gang. So far we've only gotten our information from the police. I'm not saying the police information is wrong, but my general trust in police accounts has waned of late to the point I don't take them at face value.
It's hard to believe that some of the bikers did not have a gun.
Planted, or natural?
If I didn't knew they were bikers, I'd thought they were jihadists. you know, the beards...