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George Soros Warns "No Exaggeration" That China-US On "Threshold Of World War 3"
While admitting that reaching agreement between the two countries will be difficult to achieve, George Soros - speaking at The World Bank's Bretton Woods conference this week - warned that unless the U.S. makes 'major concessions' and allows China's currency to join the IMF's basket of currencies, "there is a real danger China will align itself with Russia politically and militarily, and then the threat of world war becomes real."
Much in global geopolitics depends on the health and trajectory of the Chinese economy, was the undertone of George Soros' comments as he spoke this week, but as MarketWatch reports,
Billionaire investor George Soros said flatly that he’s concerned about the possibility of another world war.
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If China’s efforts to transition to a domestic-demand led economy from an export engine falter, there is a “likelihood” that China’s rulers would foster an external conflict to keep the country together and hold on to power.
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To avoid this scenario, Soros called on the U.S. to make a “major concession” and allow China’s currency to join the International Monetary Fund’s basket of currencies. This would make the yuan a potential rival to the dollar as a global reserve currency.
In return, China would have to make similar major concessions to reform its economy, such as accepting the rule of law, Soros said.
Allowing China’s yuan to be a market currency would create “a binding connection” between the two systems.
An agreement along these lines will be difficult to achieve, Soros said, but the alternative is so unpleasant.
“Without it, there is a real danger that China will align itself with Russia politically and militarily, and then the threat of third world war becomes real, so it is worth trying.”
And while on the topic, Soros also spoke recently, as ValueWalk notes, on the situation in Europe...
“The European Union was a very inspiring idea to people like me,” he commented, reflecting back to when EU economies were more balanced. “It was the embodiment of the idea of an open society, like minded countries getting together and sacrificing part of their sovereignty for the common good. It was meant to be a voluntary association of equals.”
Soros continued to say: “Because of the Euro crisis, [the E.U.] has been transformed into something radically different.” He also emphasized that over time two different classes of countries have evolved: creditors and debtors. “The debtors had difficulty meeting their obligations and this put the creditors in charge. They (the creditors) set the rules and made it very difficult for the debtors to exit their inferior status. A voluntary association of equals turned into an involuntary association of un-equals.”
While avoiding making predictions, on Greece Soros noted: “Greece is a poisonous situation. All sides have made a lot of mistakes, and there is a lot of hostility, a lot of negative sentiments…Both sides are willing to hurt the other side even if it hurts them.”
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The billionaire investor concluded by pointing out that military spending is currently on the rise in both Russia and China, warning ominously...
"If there is conflict between China and a military ally of the United States, like Japan, then it is not an exaggeration to say that we are on the threshold of a third world war."
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hogwash. it's still a voluntary association of equals. actually, it's two voluntary associations of equals and one of less equals
the eurozone/EuroSystem/ECB/EUR is still a monetary club of sovereigns on a equal basis... nonwithstanding the separate debt issues
the EU is still a trade/regulatory club of sovereigns on a equal basis
what is less on an equal basis is NATO
"People in NL and FR were asked and said 'No' but they got sidetracked" - utter hogwash
People in the Netherlands and in France were asked if they wanted an EU Constitution. To which they said no
take those referenda seriously or stop talking about referenda if you are only willing to propagate simplifications about them
saying no to an EU Constitution is not the same as saying no to the EU. You would expect that even children would understand such differences
"You can't force people into a happy marriage". You can't force people to be happy, period. That's different from marriage or not marriage
Hey mofo, do not think you can speak for all the Dutch and French.
Especially since you obviously have no fucking clue how ordinary people think about the 'EU'. Not that those people matter in the EU Universe.
tell me, how many of your "ordinary people" in France and the Netherlands want their countries to exit the EU?
What about Austria and Hungary? Do you really believe the EU is "voluntary"?
yes. voluntary at member level. i.e. at sovereign level. as a reminder, a Citizen of a Republic based on democratic principles is not the sovereign
its the whole of the People that shares the sovereignty, through the constitutionally appropriate institutions
that's... the constitution(s). If you are arguing with that, then it's a completely different discussion
you can't deny that both Austria and Hungary had their ministers signing treaties and their (elected) parliaments ratifying them
Aks them if they want the EU or the EEC and I can bet what the answer will be. You did not address this one btw in a previous comment of mine.
Very little people don't want European cooperation but they don't want to be governed by some invisible unaccountable and unelected elite (elected by popular voting) (whether EC, EP or council of ministers) that seems to be listening far too much to the lobbyists in Brussels. TIPP ring a bell? Why the secrecy?
accountability should not be the problem in the case of an org who's members are fully armed sovereigns with intelligence agencies... who were found out spying on the EU... on behalf of the NSA
the EU is constituted in three parts: the elected EU Parliament, the EU Council* and the jointly appointed EU Commission
further, it's my opinon that if they pass that damn TIPP treaty... it's the full death of the EU. TIPP is an attempt to gut the EU like a fish
(*) yes, our ministers and prime ministers. who appointed them?
Don't get me started on the NSA who are probably monitoring ZH as well.
The BND not only spied on France and EU institutions but also facilitated the NSA spying on them and European companies. They also effectively committed treason by helping the NSA to spy on German companies as well.
TIPP to me is a corporate takeover of a continent. It will bring commercial arbitrage courts with power over EU and national parliaments; puch GMO and growth hormone infested meat down our throats and will lead to complete erosion of labor, social and environmental rights. Juncker is already paving the way for that. The only thing that that work is publication of secret documents and mass protests.
+1 and the EU, funnily enough, is the oyster that TTIP is trying to pry open. did I say oyster? pardon me, I mean... market
note the words of the US Secretary for Agriculture: if we europeans don't "Americanize" our agriculture, the world risks starvation, and it's Europe's fault
this of course would mean huge corporate agribusiness, the deletion of the family farmer business, more oil imports and agri-exports to the rest of the world
each continent feeding itself? not an option, and evil, of course
That American US secretary of AG is full of BS.
Here a link to who feeds the world: "Hungry for land: small farmers feed the world with less than a quarter of all farmland". The world does not need no stinking big AG business that in one generation time managed to virtually destroy topsoil wherever it lands.
http://www.grain.org/article/entries/4929
I knew you would comment. You always did in a rather polite way without the Ad Hominem. That is fine. I don't care but it makes me wonder why. Is there perhaps more than one Ghordius?
The people in NL and FR indeed said no against the EU constitution. Then the EU did some minor changes here and there and called it a treaty. And voila, no more need for consultation of the people cause that is what happens if they don't like the outcome of a referendum. It is deception and has no place in democracies. But let's be honest, democratic content currently in the EU and EU countries does not amount to really that much. NL recently had to cough up money twice to the EU and any attempt to get openess on that by reporters or investigators from either NL government or the EU fails. Cause we don't need no stinking open policy making in the EU.
And please, don't pretend that there are equals in the EU. There is Germany and then comes France and the UK and a long time nothing before comes Italy, Spain and other countries with the small ones dangling somewhere.
Aks the people in NL and FR if they want the EU or the EEC I can bet what the answer will be.
since when is "your comment is hogwash" an Ad Hominem?
just as a small side, the very spirit of going against Ad Homs is that you attack arguments, not people
"You would expect that even children would understand such differences" is an implicit one. And a very bad one.
Your comments (not only to me but also to others) make me think that perhaps you're not the same Ghordius you used to be. Or not the same one at all.
oh. damn. yes, you are right
I sincerely beg your pardon, this is the kind of comment that I first write and then delete upon re-reading
I claim distraction, I was writing at the same time in two different threads and did not self-censure my thoughts
Good sport! Well taken. That sounds more like the Ghordius I know.
one that feels a bit alone trying to upheld some "standards" which are used to judge... Ghordius only
don't be astonished if I won't post any comments, in the future. too many trolls here, imho
A first I thought you had gone over to the dark side.
Too many trolls indeed. Especially when it comes to Ukraine and Russia. On either side. Remember 123Freedom (or Freedom123)?
oh, those I find fun, up to the point that many are actually convinced, and bear great pain for what is happening, which is a huge clusterfuck of evil
but I am on the "dark side". I still am a proponent of the EUR. this alone makes me the Greater Devil Of ZH, doesn't it?
They are fun and they are fun to combat. A weak spot of mine...
Hmm, sorry disappoint you but there are greater devils of ZH than you in my opinion. Personally I find people who are full of Jew-this and Jew-that rather worse. Or the Holocaust deniers. But I guess internet also made it eventually to redneck-ville. Not that I don't believe there is a Jewish lobby, just like there is a WASP lobby. But to throw all people on one big pile is just too much.
the 0.1% cannot let a WW3 happen..it will not. those nation states that remain independent of the 0.1% rule and have the BOMB. know this..poor iraq libya afgan did not. and war was a go.
MAD is still there. look it up if you don't know what MAD is.
+1. from the perspective at the top, WW3 is not desirable. particularly for Chinese "princelings" studying in the US, for example
what was the first action after 9/11? urgently ship out VIP Arabs from the US... for their protection
"Then the EU did some minor changes here and there and called it a treaty"
that's fundamentally incorrect. 28 appointed national governments signed the treaty and 28 elected national Parliaments ratified it
that's a fundamentally constitutionally correct procedure for 27 (written) constitutions (and one unwritten) and it is democracy
It is voters' deception. It is no secret that Giscard d'Estaing who was closely involved in the process around the constitution/treaty was very annoyed by having referenda in the first place and by NL and FR voting it down. They they used the trick of calling the constitution a treaty and voila, no more referanda needed. These are the kind of political tricks that have people distrust the EU.
a treaty is a treaty, a common constitution a completely different matter
and distrust of any and all orgs is a good thing, imho
But turning a downvoted constitution into a treaty because you don't like the result of the vote is just deception and deception is ill intent.
Any distrust of all orgs is good, I agree.
how can I explain? I was fully against an EU Constitution because it's a step further in the direction of a federation
a treaty is a completely different affair... even if the damn content looks similar
a treaty is reversible for the simple reason that it's based on ratification, which can be withdrawn
I am for the sovereignty of the members, and the principle of legislation through elected parliaments
it's the difference between "shacking up" with a couple of GFs* and marrying them... forever
you might still wish to leave them and find it difficult for many, many reasons. but it's not the same as being forbidden to leave them
(*) well, yes, I admit it: I had once "complicated relationships"
I agree, also on having complicated relationships, but hey women...
They opted for the solution of the treaty because they wanted to move along. They could not afford to stand still. They decided to deal with the problem of implementing ever increasingly integrated relation up to the point of no return for a later moment. Like a Euro crisis that want to use to force ever increasing political and monetary union. That is my problem with the Euro: it was designed mostly by politicians in order to force ever increasing political union. And they decided not to let a good crisis go to waste but they are not succeeding so much. The council of ministers still manage to keep that off.
I disagree. the EUR was designed for monetary purposes. and adopted by some for political reasons
evidence: 28 EU members, 19 EUR members
evidence: EU federalists moaning that they would, in hindsight, preferred a different solution, or would not have backed it
the EUR is the answer to a monetary/FX problem
evidence: China is looking for a solution to a similar problem
evidence: rigged FX markets scandals coming to the open
"don't pretend that there are equals in the EU". no? then it's simple: any member that feels it's not treated as an equal... can exit
your problem, I think, is that you would like to have an in-/out- EU referendum in the Netherlands. and that's a Dutch national matter
Oh dear, don't you know? Leaving is not an option. Well, let's see what the British decide. But I think that the EU and especially Germany -although they claim otherwise- would be happy to see them leave.
it's a bit difficult to exit without the political will to exit. and even the UK has some issues with that. see Scotland, which is for staying in the EU
this brings me back to Catalonia, the mentioned Scotland, Flanders, etc. etc. note that many want to leave their national unions... but not necessarily the EU
which leads me to the question: why do smaller nations feel generally "confy", in the EU? context. in this case, global context
You can't force people into a happy marriage
->stockholm syndrom.
everybody get used to anything. just a matter of time.
ever wondered why politic time was so slow and so few thing done to every mandate ?.... get it ?
Hey George Open your fuck'n eyes. China and Russia and India have already formed an economic and quasi military alliance because they recognise that the USA its bankers and old oligarchs like you are a threat to the whole fuck'n world
I am sure he is so short the US dollar he has to make these speeches everywhere
JOKE TIME:
Soros hears a knock on his door. He opens and a tall man in black tells him that he is the grim reaper that has come to take him. Soros is not convinced until the tall stranger undoes his coat and reveals a mass of bones and smoke. He then unfurls a 10 metre list with the names of those he will be taking with him and the name of Soros is at the top.
Soros somehow convinces him to stay for dinner before they leave and while filling the grim reaper's plate he throws in a handful of sleeping pills.
The Grim Reaper suddenly falls sleeep and Soros goes and takes hold of the Reaper's list. He then proceeds to delete his name from the top and place it at the bottom of the list.
A little while later the grim reaper wakes up. He proceeds to stretch and then tells Soros that it was the best sleep and the best feed that he has ever had. In fact he is so impressed with Soros that he turns to him and says:
"You know George I am so impressed by your hospitality that I am going to do you a favour.
George replies, "what favour might that be?"
Grim Reaper: I am going to start going through my list by starting at the bottom."! !!!
Is the white space the part where we laugh?
That was the part where he presented a list of all the jailed bankers. (What you couldn't see it)?
he may fart cinnamon but this guys no mr bean.
Won't this idiot die already.
No he is like Kissinger.
Is David Rockefeller still going?
They drink the blood of Virgins or something in strange Swiss clinics.
the local misgiving
A Chosonite, the bastards never die.
They do not drink the blood of youth but they do transfuse it regularly.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/04/us-science-young-blood-idUSKBN...
We are Anunnaki Lizards and live as long as Noah... We created and enslaved humans to mine the magic crystals from the diamond mines on this Earth. They power our space ships, give control of the weather and many things beyond your limited comprehension. Watch the Sleestaks from Land of the Lost to understand who your masters are.
Has Soros ever left any "loving kindness" in his wake?
That word does not compute in his small brain.
As I noted on another ZH post earlier this evening, joining IMF's (US's) SDR is the worst thing China could do. They'd just get reeled in slowly, and allow the Neocons to rot China slowly from within.
The best and strongest play that China could do, is to be the anchor for a BRICS Currency, a BRICS_SDR so to speak.
That would fuel a solid currency model for the Silk Road 2.0, and demote the USD from its Global Reserve Currency (GRC) status, to Regional Reserve Currency (RRC). In which case, it's bye-bye to "Money for Nothing and Checks for Free" for its Usurpers and beneficiaries (at home and abroad).
+100
I hope and imagine that the Chinese know this already....
soros
"Er zol vaksen vi a tsibeleh, mit dem kop in drerd!"
have a nice day
In 1980-ties chief of staff of US Navy was asked how long will US aircraft carriers survive Soviet attack. He said ALL will be destroyed in 3 days if they stay in ports otherwise they will survive only minutes to hours. Okinawa can be sunk in day or two ending US hegemony in pacific. US is running out of cards, neocons know that it is too late to confront China especially allied with Russia. China's unstoppable strategy is to slowly weaken enemy, step by step, like a roller, precisely, slowly and deadly. And they know they will succeed as long as they stay united which is much more serious threat then the US.
US is and was a paper tiger and now this paper tiger is decomposing.
Paper tiger is an apt analogy given that America's wealth and power are no longer based on industrial innovation and production, rather on the 'printing' of money. China can pull the plug any time it wants by ofloading its dollar holdings.
Agree with your first sentence but doubt the second.
You can only dump currency holdings by exchanging them for something else. So what is China going to buy with its dollars? It's already buying assets around the world as fast as it can, and the recipients either recycle to buy from or invest in US.
China can dump all its US bonds, but Mr Yellen will just print up a load of dollars to buy them at rock bottom prices, so China ends up with more US fiat, but much less than the face value of bonds it dumped, and then back to the first problem.
Medium to longer term the big US problem is that it has given away most of its industry to China and that is a big deal (and it was given away by those financial interests and accommodating politicians [hello Bill and Hill and their successors] who thought they'd make some short term money without the least concern about the effect on most of the US population and the long term strategic position of the US).
But what IS the value of money for a country? It is just a symbol of the strength and faith of the societies using it. You can buy things, or invade and take things but either way you need the power and clout to hold onto it afterwards. A dying currency shows you don't have the power to keep what you buy or take anymore.
...without the least concern about the effect on most of the US population and the long term strategic position of the US.
I disagree. I think the short term cash was just a bonus. The POINT was to hollow out and collapse the USA.
I think most folks fail to recognize the way our Constitution (if followed properly) is a threat to the globalist psychopaths' delusions of deity. It establishes the Rule of Law as sovereign over the Rule of Man. Rockefeller, Rothschild, Soros etc. cannot ABIDE such a concept. They really do see themselves as gods, and the whole of the Earth as theirs to rule over in absolute power.
Those tribesmen are still alive?
Kill those inbereed retards immediately to avoid all wars!
Start with the rich ones, then the hidden ones... that is all.
Bring it on, let see which collectivism side wins.
No exaggeration Soros needs to be arrested for terrorism and his stolen wealth redistributed into an publicly owned and operated open source financial system.
Accept the rule of my law Soros you scumbag.
phew
aren't you glad Soros doesn't think it already happened
This stupid fuck brought Obama to the white house - hang him
George Soros is speaking for the Federal Reserve. They want to destroy the dollar! Why else would Soros and his bankster friends be pushing for the TPP treaty?
Even at the height of the Mercan genocide in Korea, when China was mired in a feudalistic agrarian system, Merca did not dare attack a real country with a real army albeit primitive. Today the USSA can't even control the terror machine it has lavished billions on I$I$, Al CIAduh, Israel, the Kiev NAZIS etc , yet Soros/ Schwartz, this rabid zionazi Golem filth, salivates at the thought of war with mighty China, Merca's major creditor. Anything for a buck, in the eyes of a soule$$ schmuck.
"War is the harvest of the Jew".
Polish Saying
George Schwartz slash Soros, psychopath in chief!
http://www.businessinsider.com/glenn-beck-george-soros-is-really-george-...
This gem from the old codger....where has he been in the last ten years?
"there is a real danger China will align itself with Russia politically and militarily, and then the threat of world war becomes real."
Can somebody finally roll the old geezer into a corner and just wait until the smell gets overpowering....
Thank god for nuclear weapons.
Bush and co. may have been able to dodge the draft in Vietnam but even the elites can't escape the fallout from a nuclear war.
The Cold War stayed cold for a very good reason, it was a war the elites couldn't just send the poor in to fight and die for them.
WWIII is unlikely to happen because the elites would suffer too.
LOL they got underground cities but they would miss golf and flying around in their private jets...
Bush hasn't ben president for 6 years.. Let it go
Fuck Soros and the globalist agenda...
The EU has succumbed to the trickle up effect inherent within Capitalism:
a) Those with excess capital invest it and collect interest, dividends and rent.
b) Those with insufficient capital borrow money and pay interest and rent.
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer, that's Capitalism.
The trickle down effect was just a fictitious invention of US billionaires looking for lower taxes.
What a sellout POS. Arrest him already and crucify his ass on the WH lawn.
A world war against Russia and China would not be a war that could be won.
Humanity as a whole would likely not survive it.
Zio USSA is a Rogue Enterprise.
Soros, one of its Arch SCUMMM* Bags
(SCUMMM* - Satanic Cabal Underwriting Mass-Murder & Mayhem)
fuck that maggot
zh wasting time in confusing spasm over this.
frontman
George Soros is a war-monger and a war-profiteer vulture, preying on young soldiers lives !
Both in the first and second world war, soldiers on both sides asked themselves after some time,
what they where really fighting about ? During lulls in the slaughter, at special times like Christmas, soldiers from both sides would meet
in no-mans land with their enemies, young men, from both sides they had more in common with one another, than with their own elite officers
and politicians that had sent them to war and would soon punished them with death, for fraternizing with the enemy.
No ! there must be no communication with the enemy, there must be 50 million killed by slaughter and total war!
World War II fatality statistics vary, with estimates of total dead ranging from 50 million to more than 80 million.
The higher figure of 80 million includes deaths from war-related disease and famine.
Civilians killed totaled from 38 to 55 million, including 19 to 25 million from war-related disease and famine in World War II.
How many since then ? How many ? and who did the killing ?....
Soldiers on both sides soon realized that they had gone to war to profit those rich Politicians and elite capitalists,
who made money by sending young men to war and to an early grave and those who survived the nightmare into PTSD and suicides.
It has always been like this. Wars are fought to keep the capitalist fascist War-monger Industry going...
to produce more weapons to destroy and profiteer more from the resulting nightmare destruction and misery.
George Soros and vultures like him are always hoping for some war and destruction they can bet on.
They can not turn a profit if everyone becomes peaceful. So they need more Wars.
That's why Hitler came to power 1933 in Germany. To fight those War-Profiteers that had Germany in a stranglehold after WWI.
I sometimes wonder what would have happened if Hitler had succeeded to Victory in WWII ?
Would the world be better or worse off socially and economically or would it all be just the same ?
After all, there are still plenty of fascist vulture war-mongers about, maybe even more and wars seem to just go on and on.
Some killers even get the Nobel price, for killing by remote control...Hitler at least faced the enemy, as he saw them,
on the battlefield. Hitlers main enemy was the capitalist war-Profiteer and many of them were elite Jews.
Like George Soros, Rupert Murdoch and many other of the radical vulture-Fascist Zionists today.
food for thought !
WR;)
Soros owes $8B to the IRS. Soros no likey. Soros is playing "payback" knowing barry is a coward and a weakling.
It will get a grand day when this fucker dies.
Yee Ha! Keep grinding out the fear:
WWIII
Depression
Economic collapse
Police state
NSA
The stupid is strong and easily manipulated; don't be stupid!
Capitalism benefits those with Capital.
It benefits the rich rather than the poor and the old rather than the young.
Capitalism works best with competition.
It used to have that from Communism and those at the top feared Communism and revolution and so had to show Capitalism worked for everyone.
Now the competition is gone and the 0.1% can funnel everything up to themselves.
The older generation grew up with a more benign form of Capitalism and everyone was allowed to acquire some Capital.
Capitalism, in its more benign form, works well for all, but this involves redistribution from the rich to the poor to combat its inherent trickle up effect.
The EU is falling apart due to this lack of redistribution.
Global trade is going down the pan due to the impoverishment of global consumers.
Globally the younger generation are being screwed due to their lack of Capital and they are being pushed onto the wrong side of the trickle up equation through every means possible, eg. student loans; expensive homes .....
The Soviet Union lost the propaganda war not because they were wrong about everything. They were wrong about a lot of things but not about everything. They lost the propaganda war because they weren't very clear about what they meant by capitalism. At first they gained an audience when they were bad mouthing about mercantile socialism. Yes, the kind of economics where the Fed habitually and perpetually bails out a select band of failing, outsourcing and other crooked companies and institutions. So those who weren't getting bailouts and favors from the Federal Reserve did listen to them for a while.
It wasn't until the Soviet Union starting ranting and complaining about the little guy and his sports car. The amount of shoes that a woman owned and even the toaster oven that people starting to reject the Soviets propaganda. You see no one likes mercantile socialism (Keynesian economics) where certain people get bailed out at the expense of those who work hard for a living. Especially when those who are constantly getting bailed out are competing for the same resources that those who are paying for the bail outs are utilizing.
So of course when those on the left start talking about the evils of capitalism most people automatically assume they are referring to Keynesian economics. This is not so because as soon as you start to listen to them they automatically attack economic freedom. So their real enemy is not mercantile socialism but your right to own something and your right to buy what you want. That is why most people reject communism because they know that there realy isn't much of a difference between it and mercantile socialism. In other words Keynesian socialism.
Hard work and earned money are sold as the secrets of success, but unearned Capital (eg. inheritance) seems to be the secret in the UK.
The number one in the UK rich list is the Duke of Westminster who just inherited the lot.
The West introduced market reforms to Russia that bought chaos, created the Oligarchs and left the majority with next to nothing.
The majority had the Western freedom to do what they wanted but no money to do anything at all (even eat in a lot of cases).
Putin restored order to the chaos and the majority had now seen how hollow the Western freedoms are if you have no money.
Capitalism with no Capital, no thanks.
And let the Western scum be warned then that China has thousands and not hundreads, like Murican intel agency believes them to possess, of nuclear weapons, plus tens of thousands of Russian nuclear arsenal (Russia has at least over 40.000 *what Muricanos believe, so could be a lot more* mothballed nuclear warheads ready for installement on ballistic missliles, and rest assured there are more than enough ballistic missiles for them). Murica and all of the West would be wiped out! There is no way Murican scum would pass unscathed in this fight like the trash has passed WW1 and WW2!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-29RMU2_Layner
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-29RMU_Sineva
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSM-56_Bulava
Look! These are only SLBMs which are going to strike Murica if you go to war, and there is no protection against any of them. None. Also, they are far ahead, much more advanced of anything Murican scum possess! ehehe
And then add to that ICBMs like Rubezh, Yars and Topol-M (and still active Voivoda), against which there are also no protection, and you get the picture. Murica would be annihilated! Murica cannot win militarily, and cannot win economically. At long last world shall be free of that giant parasitic fluke which is feeding on us called Murica!
Accepteance of the Rule of Law? Ole Georgie you got to come up with more then that lol...
Usually Oligarchs have no problem with major wars, they win playing both sides, taking their profits, and sitting safely somewhere away from the danger.
Soros, an Oligarch, isn't so keen for another war?
Well the truth of the matter is that in a WW3 there will be no winners, not even the Oligarchs will survive the chaos that would beset a world dependent on electronics, computers, satellites for almost everything about life. People will be surprised by just how much of the basics of life depend on electronics, elctricity and computers.
The world so interconnecceted that even without full on nuclear war total chaos can be created on everybody's shores, and weapons of great destruction much more advanced than WW2.
If the Oligarchs can't control the results, or be sure of the results they are probably not so keen to engage in WW3.
The provocation to war, or sabre rattling without care of WW will be an indication of how safe the Oligarchs believe their lives and futures will be.
HOWEVER in the modern world controled by Oligarchs for quite some time, their arrogance and ignorance may blind them to reaities.
If Murica attacks China, Russia will attack Murica, and that means annihilation for Murica. That is what what allience is all about in the end, and what ensures ending of Murican parasitism over the world as well. Although, Russia and China would be best advised to launch their attack on Murica first, since Murican behavior knows no boundaries. Also, it seems like Murica is bend on making a war, so strike them first. If that trash cannot understand that some behavior is unacceptable, then there is a price to pay for it. Muricans think the whole world is theirs and they can do what ever they like. Show them the error of their way. Annihilate Murica!
I agree, Shock and Awes on Murica is in order. After all, they think its so cool to do it others who NEVER WERE a threat. Muricans did it just for shits and grins so they could get rid of the guy THEY installed in Iraq. The same guy, THEY sold chemical weapons to.
Stuff it you fat soft Nazi.
What's that Muricanos? You don't want your parasitism over the rest of the planet to end, and you also don't want do be annihilated (who would, right?)? That suspiciously looks like a famous contrast and logical contradiction which can only merilly coexist along each other in heads of Western libtards! ehehehe
There is only 2 ways this yould end:
(i) Murican parasitism ends and there is no nuclear annihilation of Murica
(ii) or Murican parasitism ends and Murica is annihilated
Murican parasitism will end, one way or another. And with it your liberal degenerations you are corrupting the world with! Good riddance! Hard to tell which is worse: Murican parasitism or liberal corruption!
p.s.
After some thinking, that would be liberal corruption! It's far easier to amend, rectify, repair of fix some aspects of material existence; far, far difficult is to remedy corruptions of soul! For that only, the whole West deserves to be annihilated! There is no question about punishment for such a crime: it's death!
China's economy is already showing signs of trouble. I think the last thing they would want to do right now is kill their cash cow, the United States that is, who is the number one buyer of all its crappy products.
You are already bankrupt, you idiot! Murica has been bankrupt for quite some time now... for decades. Only thing keeping Murica afloat is dollar parasitism. Why would China serve as slave labor camp so that parasitic Murican trash can keep on enjoying their lavish lifestyles, hm? They would work as slaves for your freshly printed paper? Why don't you take some more hallucinogenic substances to better imagine that world again, you stupid Murican parasite!
Also, why would we in Europa tolerate your Murican parasitism, tresspasings and aggressions? Why would that degenerate, parasitic land Murica serve as some template which we should build our societies on? We don't want to be Niggerized and Muslimized, or to trasfer part of our purchusing power to you Muricanos. Better to kill that degenerate parasitic abomination called Murica! The whole world agrees that Murica must die! You understand that? Time of liberalism and marxism is over, and your Murica is an ultimate liberal-marxist trash far worse than anything the world has ever seen before. Murican world got stuck in the last century, and that century is dead. So your world must die. It's long overdue for that, Muricano.
"George Soros Warns"
He can only wish..... the war may actually be on the likes of his sorry ass.
Will someone please close George's coffin lid..............
http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/05/22/asia-aiib-china-india-idINKBN0O...
China is likely to hold a 25-30 percent stake in the new Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) while India will be the second-biggest shareholder, delegates said on Friday after a three-day meeting of the bank's founding member-nations.
AIIB said in a statement that it expected to be operational by the end of the year. It said the meeting in Singapore finalised the articles of agreement, which are expected to be ready for signing by the end of June, but did not give details. (bit.ly/1FrydwQ)
No details of the ownership structure were disclosed, but delegates told Reuters that China would likely take a 25-30 percent stake in the bank, and India was likely to be the second-largest shareholder.
China's share in the $100 billion lender would be less than 30 percent, an Asian delegate told Reuters. A second delegate said India's share would be between 10 and 15 percent. Both spoke on condition of anonymity.
In all, Asian countries are expected to own between 72 and 75 percent of the bank, while European and other nations will own the rest.
Another delegate said each country representative would take the proposals back to their governments for a final decision.
George......
how did you invent copper wire again....?
I just love that story.
Something about 2 kikes dropping a penny into the Grand Canyon?
Something about 2 kikes dropping a penny into the Grand Canyon?
Ha, Mossad got you hacked .... with their double post app ! LOL
The neo-cons need to get their butts nuked, no matter what it takes. Obviously better if everyone else can avoid getting nuked along with them, but... neocons must go.
Soros is utterly disingenuous to claim "letting China into the SDR is a major concession". Who does he think he is kidding? Letting the USSA stay in the SDR is a major joke.
You obviously have no ide what you are talking about. If China wishes to become Western vassal, she can do it very quickly by submitting herself to Western rules and institutions. If she wants to become subjugated, all she needs is to become Western oligarch's globalist institution - the IMF - thrall like all Western countries (plus Japan which is also Western occupied land). Western oligarchs control supply of that currency - SDRs or bancor as Keynes used to call it - with which they want it to replace the dollar (since the dollar is at the end of its life).
Besides, the business is much easier with dollar as reserve currency than would it be with SDRs. If one must choose between dollar and SDRs, than better choose the dollar.
That's exactly what they've been preparing for with the underground city in Denver.
Hope they take refuge & can't get out of their city coffin.
COG.
i never understood all the negativity trageted at Soros, have you not read his books ?
during the cold war he spent millions to ship photocopiers to universities in the communist bloc which gave the students the abiliity to diseminate anti communist leaflets... he did more to pull down the commuist bloc than anyone.... his market theories are sound and he seems actually interested in a decent planet... if he was a war mongering profiteer, he'd be pushing for WW3.
In WW3 there will be no profiteering, when your dead the purpose of profit is also dead.
Excess population is excessive.
Its good to own dairy cows. They produce milk which can be sold at a profit. Its good to milk them for profit. But sometimes there is not enough hay for them all. Sometimes it is more profitable to milk 5% of the cows and turn the rest into steaks.
Its a problem of optimization.
It isn't about what he does or did. It is about what he is: an owner of us all, a self-appointed superior, a manipulator of humankind for profit and for personal control. As for what he does and did, the good is good, the bad is bad, and there is always confusing blowback from both.
George needs a little more Lao Tzu in his feel.
1) George Soros sucks dick.
2) George Soros is a dick.
3) George Soros is a manipulative lying dick.
Other than that he is an OK guy.
With friends like George, who needs enemies? Wasn't he just exposed for funding the riots in Ferguson? Seems like they neglected to pay some of the demonstrators, who are now demanding their money.
And I am sure he was giddy about it.
We must trust George. George is a billionaire.
STFU Georgy! You Nazi-Jew Bastard... If we want your opinion, we'll give it to ya.
IF there is WW 3 he'll be positioned to profiteer from it.
If there is a Rev 2.0, Georgy Swartzy should be hunted-down and killed like a wild pig! I suspect he will be! BRILLIANT
You have to wonder why any government would sign up to a deal that essential betrays their own sovereignty and economy and right to legislate.
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/may/22/labor-greens-and-c...
Someone once said that if you are sitting at the poker table and don't know who the sucker is, it's probably you. We are the suckers here.
It will be a cyber war.
The average poster here is either a virulent anti-Semite like most Germans during 1930s or a Russian Nationalist neo-Nazi who does not even realize that to most Germans he was a sub-human. Final Solution Part II was for the Russian race whom the Germans considered Asiatic Mongols sub par to even the Jews: Jews were to be murdered because they lived in Europe; the Russians were to be liquidated because they lived in Lebensraum.
I have no idea what kind of history they teach in Russia when its moronic youth marches and thinks that they like the Nazis--Aryans. No you were a sub-human to them.
And my father was in the Red Army and got as far as Pomerania before he was wounded: there was no illusion in my home!
Fly, I can back up your comments about how the Germans treated Russians. My dad was an American POW and told me about the treatment the Russian POWs got compared to Americans. None of the Russians ever believed they would get out alive. And they didn't.
No plan to murder the Jews was ever discovered. And by Jesus if there had been one they'd have found it. Hitler's diaries and table talks make it abundantly clear that they were to be expelled from the Greater Reich. The whole Holocau$t™ story is just that, A story. Invented in the early 1950's with the objective of bleeding dry the unfortunate Germans and to render the Tribe immune to criticism.
This crusty old man still gets a chubby when he dreams of the US being destroyed. He has to be a Jew?
The only question is how would George Soros benefit from his proposal, his fear mongering backed proposal.
America just needs to nuke Israel and most of these shenanigans would cease.
The Clintons gave satellite orbiting technology to China .... Carter gave nuclear fuel rods to the Norks .... Obama runs guns to Mexican cartels and ISIS .... they are the vanguard of the proletariat .... Marx be praised ! LOL
His real name is Schwartz!!! LOL, had to be a Jew! What are the odds?!
Of course he is!
George is pretending Russian and China have not already defected and won. George wants a war to bring back the past.
Don't even tell me this rat Gayorgi Schwartz 'Soros' is card carrying Israeli dual citizen too?
This is a great time .... to be old .... and not GAFA (give a fuck anymore) .... I turned 70 today .... please send a donation to Mossad widows and ophans fund .... in lieu of flowers for me ! LOL
Just like the Ukraine crisis was/is an existential threat to Europe, right? He should have started out with "OMFG" to really dirve the point home with mouthbreathers.
More Globalist Central Planning propoganda straight from the mouth of the global COURT JESTER himself. Does ANYONE believe Socialist Soros' shit anymore? "Better give China (or Russia or Cuba or Venezuela or Iran or the EU) this concession or else..." Such DISINFoRMAZIA has long been used to extract credits or benefits to prop up or further advance the often FAILING hardcore Marxist Revolutionary Dictatorships... such as China, the MOST MURDEROUS REGIME in the history of the planet. At some point, China will pay for its MASSIVE CRIMES and DECEPTIONS which to date have left 100 million + slaughtered (the VAST MAJORITY being Christians, Anti-globalists, and freedom loving TYRANNY HATING activists) in the name of the Dear Leader Mao and his GREAT LEAP FORWARD to FULL CENTRALIZED DICTATORIAL CONTROL.
"I wear 40 miles of barbed wire,
Drink Baby blood for a test-fire.
Who do ya love?"
Floating trial balloons on host transitioning, and using scare tactics to make it palatable.
Yes, Schwartz Gyorgy, there will be another world war, thanks to all your hard work. And if there is a God, the good name of Whose Chosen People you slander by daring call yourself a Jew, you will LOSE.
Progressives LOVE George Soros
Progressives LOVE Barak Obama
Progressives LOVE Hillary Clinton
Progressives LOVE Eric Holder
Progressives LOVE Janet Yellen
The progressive stupid, it burns.
Grimaldus
Quite amazing the average IQ of Progressives is about 20.
While the average IQ of a Conservative is preserved in formaldehyde? WTF
Conservatives are smarter. Forget the massive liberal media brainwashing, it's not even close, or counter-intuitive. Ever ask yourself --why do liberals need all the free shit if they are so smart? Because they're not smart. Hollywood, union workers and inner-city welfare slums are not exactly PhD factories, are they?
Since records started being kept in 1953, conservatives earn about 61% more college degrees than liberals do -- every single year. About 1 in 3 conservatives have college degrees while it's only 1 in 5 for liberals. This represents a massive educational and economic gap.
Conservatives are also: more productive, more successful, pay more taxes, give more to charity (by wide margin), less likely to cheat on taxes, more tolerant (yep!), healthier, and are much less likely to commit crimes and go to prison.
In short, If liberals could just merely keep up with conservaties there would be no national debt, no poverty, no crime, and we would be living the Utopia that liberals say they seek.
"Republicans vs Democrats...Reality vs Rhetoric", Joseph Stein, 2008.
These people are not Progressives, they are more like Rockefeller Republicans. A real Progressive is a National Socialist without racist ideaology.
I am sick of reading about what these greedy lying jewish 1%ers say....did the socialist as$hole blame Bush again?
From the mouth of the imperial Zionist Jew Grand Inquistor..
Translation:
If China doesn't do the rational thing and save our market(s) AGAIN before they completely implode due to our own negligent and disreputable behavior, WE WILL "IMPLODE" THEM...
Just like 1945 only with much bigger bombs that both sides appear to have at this time!
Until China does not need the American consumer there will be no war with them unless the US starts one.
There will be no war unless the zionists want it since most of the rich Chinese want out of China, and America is their first choice.
Vancouver, Sacramento and Las Vegas. Half the people in Vegas are Asian? And in local casinos, 100%.
Until China does not need the American consumer there will be no war with them unless the US starts one.
And that war the US starts that you speak of rh will be it and the Grand Inquisitors "last picture show"!
Is George for war or against it? Where does he stand on war profiteering? Must we examine his investments to see what he is up to? Obviously, long on Yuan, short on dollar. But where is he hedged to win in global destruction? I hear his cry, but not his common humanity.
That's because he's not human. He's a lizard.
That's because he's not human. He's a lizard.
We will shove Socialism .... down every throat .... or we will destroy the world ! LOL
Is that supposed to mean something to me? Fuck that bitch! Steal his wealth and see if he cares what the cunts that made it disappear have to say.
And Soros will be funding both sides in the fight.
This fu%&er along with Buffett and Greenspan need to quickly die so they can each go to their special place in Hell.
You're about as green with envy as they come.
The day I envy being a crook is the day i shove gun in my mouth.
George Soros, the poster-child of loud-mouthed cabalists lecturing the rest of the planet on what to do to further his interests.
Given all the destructive meddling in world governments that this guy has done throughout his "career", I am surprised that anyone listens to him any more.
There is nothing left for the cabal to do to save itself and attempt to remain in control but to start another war (just like it started WW I, WW II and Iraq) to artificially stimulate the world economy out of recession and further its interests.
Since the world is wise to the cabal's failing efforts to control the world through CB manipulation - it will now try to play the same card it always does - fight another war to the death of the last European.