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With ISIS Controlling "More Than Half Of Syria", The US Prepares To Pounce
Just hours after ISIS scored a significant victory in Iraq when it captured the town of Ramadi over the weekend, the first Iraqi town that had been actively defended by the US as opposed to just Iraqi troops, overnight ISIS also captured the ancient Syrian town of Palmyra, which the mainstream media promptly concludes was proof that the Islamic State's momentum was growing.
Around a third of the 200,000 people living in Palmyra may have fled in the past few days during fighting between government forces and Islamic State militants, the U.N. human rights office said on Thursday.
That's not all: according to Reuters, "extending its reach in the region, fighters loyal to the Sunni Muslim group have also consolidated their grip on the Libyan city of Sirte, hometown of former leader Muammar Gaddafi.
"ISIL has reportedly been carrying out door-to-door searches in the city, looking for people affiliated with the government. At least 14 civilians are reported to have been executed by ISIL in Palmyra this week," Shamdasani said in emailed comments.
The capture of Palmyra according to the known UK propaganda outlet and distributor of fabricated "chemical attack" tapes, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which is really just one guy, Abdul Rahman of Coventry, means that ISIS "now controls more than half of Syrian territory."
Not really, no.
But the facts are irrelevant when one needs soundbites.
So what is really going on? Simple: all these latest developments and the unexpected and successful ISIS "offensive" is merely another attempt to justify a US land incursion into Iraq (and of course Syria), this time "appealing" to the populace not using fake chemical attack YouTube clips as "evidence", but with a noble crusade to save an ancient cultural artifact.
The U.N. cultural agency UNESCO describes the site as a historical crossroads between the Roman Empire, India, China and ancient Persia and a testament to the world's diverse heritage.
"We may have different beliefs... different views, but we have to protect such incredible vestiges of human history," UNESCO Director General Irina Bokova told Reuters Television.
The Observatory's founder Rami Abdulrahman said Islamic State fighters had entered the historical sites by early on Thursday but there were no immediate reports of destruction.
"This is the fall of a civilization," Syria's antiquities chief Maamoun Abdulkarim told Reuters. "Human, civilized society has lost the battle against barbarism."
Alas the battle is only just beginning because as Reuters also noted, "the twin successes pile pressure not just on Damascus and Baghdad, but also throw doubt on U.S. strategy to rely almost exclusively on air strikes to defeat Islamic State."
After weeks of fighting, Ramadi’s fall on Sunday delivered the jihadist group control over a strategic highway linking Iraq and Syria, and a haul of weapons abandoned by Iraqi forces. Three days later, the al-Qaeda breakaway group overran Syrian government troops to seize Palmyra, home to the ruins of a 2,000-year-old city that was one of the most important cultural centers of the ancient world.
With the first anniversary of the declaration of its caliphate a month away, the victories put the militants on the front foot at a time when their leaders are seeking to dispel any sense of weakness after recent defeats. In Syria, it now controls half of the country’s territory and most of its oil and gas fields, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a U.K.-based group that monitors the conflict.
“The fact Islamic State is still on the offensive is important, and the timing is important,” said Charlie Winter, a researcher at the counter-radicalization group Quilliam Foundation in London. Pushed into retreat, “it loses power and all the things that drive people to join it.”
Enter a casual strawman:
The group’s supporters are already touting its latest feats, Winter said, posing the question on social media: “Last year it was Mosul, this year it’s Ramadi, and where will it be next year?”
And like that the stage is again set for the following scenario: unwilling to lose any more territory, and face, the Nobel peace-prize winning US president will sit down with his security council in the next few days and decide that, as much as he hates to do it, he will dispatch [X],000 US troops to support the Iraq government in their losing fight with the resurgent ISIS. Troops which will promptly enter Syria and then make sure Assad is quietly eliminated.
Which brings us to a different point: see on the map above how ISIS in Syria is clustered by the border of NATO-member Turkey? There's a reason for that.
As Reuters also reports in an exclusive piece, Turkey's state intelligence agency helped deliver arms to parts of Syria under Islamist rebel control during late 2013 and early 2014, according to a prosecutor and court testimony from gendarmerie officers seen by Reuters.
As Reuters observes, the witness testimony contradicts Turkey's denials that it sent arms to Syrian rebels and, by extension, contributed to the rise of Islamic State, now a major concern for the NATO member.
In other words, a NATO member and a nation very close to the US, has been instrument in the rise of ISIS. Worse, unlike running speculation that ISIS was created by the CIA and funded by the Saudis, there is now documented evidence that ISIS is indeed a "western" creation.
More from Reuters:
Syria and some of Turkey's Western allies say Turkey, in its haste to see President Bashar al-Assad toppled, let fighters and arms over the border, some of whom went on to join the Islamic State militant group which has carved a self-declared caliphate out of parts of Syria and Iraq.
Ankara has denied arming Syria's rebels or assisting hardline Islamists. Diplomats and Turkish officials say it has in recent months imposed tighter controls on its borders.
Testimony from gendarmerie officers in court documents reviewed by Reuters allege that rocket parts, ammunition and semi-finished mortar shells were carried in trucks accompanied by state intelligence agency (MIT) officials more than a year ago to parts of Syria under Islamist control.
Which in turn explains the news from two weeks ago that "Turkey, Saudis Form Alliance To Topple Syria's Assad As US Starts Training Syrian Rebels."
And just to make sure Obama's upcoming offensive against Assad, pardon ISIS' al-Baghdadi is successful, Reuters finally reports that contrary to previous reports, not 1000, but 2000 anti-tank weapons are being sent to Iraq. Wait, ISIS has tanks? Well no, that would be Syria, but when fabricating a narrative suicide bombers are as durable as tanks. Also from Reuters:
The Pentagon said on Thursday the United States would deliver 2,000 AT-4 anti-tank rockets to Iraq as early as next week, 1,000 more than announced on Wednesday, to help Baghdad combat suicide car bombings by Islamic State.
Spokesman Colonel Steve Warren said the delivery would help Iraq defend against approaching suicide bombers driving vehicles packed with explosives, attacks used by Islamic State militants last weekend to help them seize Ramadi from Iraqi forces.
"This is a good counter to that (type of bombing)," Warren said. Warren said the anti-tank weapons would allow the Iraqi forces to destroy approaching suicide car bombers at a distance. Relying on small arms requires disabling the engine or killing the driver, which can be difficult, he said.
It's an even better counter when staging an offensive operation, aka an invasion, against the Syrian army and not just from one side but two sides: the east, via Iraq, and north, via Turkey, with the occasional bombing run by Saudi Arabia (with Jordan just waiting to enter from the South and "liberate" Damascus).
So gun to our head, this is what happens next: a couple of the good ole' "chemical attack" false flag YouTube clips once again emerge just around the time Obama announces it is time to send a tactical, contained group of troops in Syria to retake the "cultural heritage" that is Palmyra, at which point the war against ISIS morphs into what it has been from day one: the western attempt to crush and topple the Assad government, and to hand over control of Syria to Turkey and Iraq, just so the US, Saudi Arabia and Qatar can control what happens behind the scenes, by which we mean finally allow that long overdue Qatari gas pipeline to traverse the nation and sideline Russian gas deliveries to Europe.
(Why does already wealthy beyond compare Qatar need to kill thousands of innocent people just so it can sell its natgas to Europe? Just so its former Prime Minister Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber Al Thani can buy many more $179 million Picasso paintings, and many more NYC and London apartments).
We expect this scenario to start unfolding within the month as the US economy desperately needs an official war to avoid sliding into a recession.
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Pounce!?!?!?!?
Jump you fuckers!
I mean seriously.... just leave them alone and they'll do a fine job sorting their own shit out.
"the western attempt to crush and topple the Assad government, and to hand over control of Syria to Turkey and Iraq"
No mention of the Zionist Rothschild Israelis, or the crypto-Jew House of Saud? Really?
I still believe the best solution to this problem is to take all the hardened criminals in the jails at NYC, Chicago, LA, Waco and send them to Syria.
That would be interesting to watch.
T'would be an interesting melee. Plus, give all the dudes from the USA a couple dozen cases of whiskey take with 'em.
Boo eh urp ooo oyah!
I predict that Barry and the Libs will do nothing of significance.
1. Barry will soon be sent to grass. He will botch his legacy as an anti-war president.
2. Barry is a Muslim. It is highly unlikely he will put the full might of the U.S. military against the Islamic State.
A token show of force perhaps, but not much more.
3. An election is approaching. Defeating ISIS eliminates a HUGE topic for bitching, screaming, whining and complaining when the Republicans or a 3rd party candidate takes office. Far better to leave the headache for the next President. This will give Democraps something to lament about and with which to play GOTCHA.
We got us 5 Hasbaras.
That's practically the only reason why I post here anymore... 2 keep a running count in my head of:
- The Hasbaras
- The sychophants
- & the utter dipshits
[which are 3 classifications intrinsically separate, but occasionally co-mingle]
It's so fucking obvious it isn't funny... FFS ~ I could probably PARSE any ad hoc comment that I make & algo an 'ad hoc' guesstimate as to how many JUNKS the comment is gonna receive within the first 2 minutes of the post (whereby ~ the most VARIABLE coefficient in the also is the TIME OF DAY & number of readers logged in to ZH at the time)...
Which, means to UNDERLINE the COMEDY, because, GIVEN AMPLE TIME, the SAME CLOWNS will arrive at the EXACT prediction of JUNKS, over time (& which PROVES the HYPOTHESIS)...
You fucks are REALLY clowns... WELL PAID CLOWNS, but CLOWNS nonetheless
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Drahi
Here is the Effendi buying up suddenlink cable.
Even the low lying media fruits are being scoope up by AIPAC supporters.
Know that before google and facebook came on the scene there were many other great search engines and sites such as Friendster for socializing with friends.
Its the hype that was created on Effendi controlled media outlets that made these companies big. I am sure that they got some shares, you know the good ol rabbi network at work creating cliques to the detriment of Gentile companies etc. Nothing new. Been going on for a looooong time. Cant blame Putin for trying to curb the influence of these tribal businesses in Russia.
ISIS is CIA pretext for military intervention
I have said since day one that ISIS is a Hegelian Dialectic.
Abdul said it's on like Donkey Kong so we're good to go.
They outsourced Colin Powell's job, poor sap. Betcha that old Abdul Rahman smells like ass too.
pods
We may not have time for Syria - it may be on like Donkey Kong right here. Fars News reported:
There's got to be plenty of elderly statesmen in Washington filling their Depends about now. Wouldn't it just be a bitch if uncomfortable details about Saudi/Turkish/US/Israeli support of ISIS were discovered in those SaudiLeaks documents?
Who would have ever thought the Yemeni Cyber Army would save the world? Or maybe end it. That's what you get when you fuck with the Houthis!
I tried to warn everyone.
The likelihood of that being true is inversely correlated with how much they publicize their success.
Maybe true, TR. But consider this: the Saudis use contract American firms for IT work, including security. Those firms in turn sub out to cheap-assed overseas shops. Regardless of the supposed Yemeni Cyber Army story, do you really figure Saudi government systems have any kind of impenetrable security that's a challange to some pissed-off 15-year-old Houthi kid with a knack for computers?
U.S. security is an order of magnitude better, but still sucks. It was only a matter of time for the Saudis. They're only good at paying for IT security, not actually getting any.
Do you really think Obama, or the rest of them for that matter, give two shits about some silly little religion. To those of us not blinded by faith in some form of magical sky fairy, it seems silly. Barry, and all the rest of them, especially these tin pot dictators in the Middle East care about power and money , and could give a shit about any religion.
Yes, actually, I do think Obama and the rest of them give two shits about religion.
Considering that more than 75% of the world's population believes in "some form of magical sky fairy" ;
Considering that only 18% of the population in the U.S. claims to not believe in any form of higher power or being;
It would seem that your arrogance in thinking you are wiser than all of these others may be blinding you to the facts.
While for most, an acknowledgement of "some form of magical sky fairy" is not a major game changer in the manner in which they conduct their lives, for many world leaders, it really is.
Yes.
"Do what thou wilt" seems very popular these days.
We've got ISIS right where want them. Now if Valerie Jarrett would get BHOs balls out of her mouth she can order the Pentagon to go fight a real war against Global Warming.
Did people really vote for this? Or am I really high from an acid flashback? Hope it is the second one and I'll wake to find Ron Paul in the White House.
mmm ... Barry said only yesterday that "Global warming is a terrist threat to Merika."
I guess he's already forgotten about Eye-Sys.
Kind of like a Fusion of Penal Colony AUS and "Dune"(whom would be cast as the Worm Choking, Cluster-Fracking Fremin?) , with plenny of hand-me-down Ammo and Gear from the Long War. Plus excess MREs and Water Buffaloes on Wheels to boot.
"Win it, cultivate it, build the Pipelines, and never set foot again in the USA; and we'll grant all of you Pardons..."
It's interseting how the CIA and Mossad can create new threats (ISIS) to invade more countries.
I think we know who's next in line. Iran.
You are wise.
"This just in, an Iranian missile has just sank the USS ____ aircraft carrier in the ____ sea. The US is now at the highest alert level since 9/11. The TSA is activating Operation Viper, so be prepared to provide your "papers" while traveling on the roadways. For comment we go to Robbie Parker..."
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
My only disagreement with your post is that I do not believe it will be an aircraft carrier. Something smaller , less valuable, but still several hundred people on board will be allowed to be lost, and that will be the kick off for their shiny new war (or just expanding and combining the several wars they already have going on...).
It's not like the 'other' side can't form their own terrorist groups, large or small.
Does anyone seriously think any kind of pipeline will be built over there? How hard would it be to blow pipelines up, oh, say, every 30 days?
The 'other' guys will make sure it all has to travel by ship, which will make it far too expensive to buy. Unless the 'other' guys turn off a country's tap, say, for non-payment of their bill. Pretty standard in business.
Many innocent people will die, for pipelines that stand no chance of surviving.
There is obviously a secondary profit motive, but I don't see it.
http://pipelinesinternational.com
Qatari finance of destabilization in Syria is to prevent a pipeline being built, so that gas will travel by ship (from Ras Laffan).
Right now Qatar is rolling in cash extracting gas from the worlds largest gas field, which is jointly shared with Iran, but which Iran cannot develop because of the lack of either pipelines or GTL facilities (US sanctions basically rule out the latter).
Qatar didn't massively ramp up its destabilization activities in Syria until Iran and Iraq signed an agreement to build this pipeline in 2013.
Given the sucess of this administration, it would be advisable to hold off any "POUNCE" till we get rid of this man in the White House.
Precisely.
This administration will find a way to turn an easy win into a humiliating disaster.
but of course. isn't that why they had ISIS go after the whole region?
Would be nice if the US could be left alone to sort out their shit.
Granted, most people in the US are just fine living as mindless drones taking all the MSM feeds them as reality.
Nuke em all!!
Now!
One of my buds is a retired Navy Captain, and you should hear him! Holy Be Jesus!
Everybody keeps asking him "So how'd that shit work out last time around and why think it'll be any better this time."
He huffs and puffs, growls and starts on with the platitudes.
One of his beat was that if we don't stop ISIS, "They'll be running our healthcare system." He was serious!
I told him that they already took that over with ObamaCare, next threat, please!
A lot of us on ZH are in the wrong timeline. We are not a fit for this era. people who constantly want to make comments which involve destruction are a perfect fit. Now for our way of thinking...terrorists. Just like the retarded story about Bin Laden having conspiracy books. The whole point of that propaganda was to call the police if you see anyone who has a book against the system in their personal library.
YEP!
Send the Mongols over there too!
That's it. Bin laden is now a confined conspiracy theorist. Therefor, anyone who reads any of these books = terrorist.
And don't forget, citizens- if you see something, say something.
Absolutely! Didju see the books pictured (where I don't remember)? 911 "conspiracy" about Bush, et al., The Conspiracy Theory about the Federal Reserve being Bad Guys? And a couple dozen more along the very same lines. I saw those pics and Knew That Was Propaganda Incarnate!
And all on the heels, on every fucking media outlet, just AFTER Seymour Hirsch's piece on the fucking lies about the Bin Laden Raid.
Then to top it off, not but hours after the biker mess in Waco, a bunch of news outlets had articles about the bikers were "racist" "homophobic" "Tea Partiers", etc., etc., etc
Jesus H Fucking Christ.
Did somebody put acid in my water along with the fluoride? It's like we're living in a bad trip with all the BS being slung.
I didnt examine the pics close enough to see what books were in the background. It does not surprise me one bit it would have those types. I think the worse acid trip you can imagine is far more a reality than this world we live in. The populace need a wake up call and when it happens it will be the worse scenario that will happen in recorded human histroy. And it is all because people refused to see what was hidden in plain sight.
"Save the antiquities," shouted the MIC. "Yes, for our childrens sake," he replied back.
The End
LOL!!!!! truthful,funny and sad all at the same time.
You guys obviously forgot to read the second page of books in his library: "It Quakes a Village" ... "Who Moved My Turban" ... "How to Flip Huts and Hovels without leaving your Cave" ... "Taliban are from Mars, Merikans are from Venus" and a whole cabinet of Tony Robbins motivational books and CDs.
Yupp. Not even conspiracies. Maybe it's enough if you listened to Chomsky at some point in your life. That's a rather broad brush they are painting us with.
See how many Marine NCOs care about the opinion of a Navy Captain RETIRED. ZERO. Since they are the ones asked to do the dirty work, Navy Captains active or retired are just politicians in disguise.
The level of intelligence of average Americans is astonishingly bad. A bunch of delusional flag waving retards and whack jobs.
How can they understand events going on half way around the world when they have no fucking idea what's going on in their own country?
And we don't care!
So NUKE EM! NUKE EM! NUKE EM NOW!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snTaSJk0n_Y
YEAH BABY!
The irony is that Mr. Navy Captain is already broke, as they not only stole his retirement with inflation, but have pissed it away into treasuries.
He'll be singing a new tune soon.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
The same tyrants that created ISIS created Øbamatax.
I had one of those too. My old next door neighbor was a Gunny Mst.Sgt.
I gave up. There wasn't any Foreign Policy that couldn't be made better by artillery.
The boy just loved them guns.
The US has to outsmart Assad, Putin, Hezbollah and the Revolutionary Guard.
Obono is the underdog in this game of wits.
You mean the guys who can't beat a bunch of camel fuckers with ak's and rocket launchers in Syria?
"We JV'd some folks..."
Syria, Iran, Hezbollah and Russia better up their game because they cannot let Syria fall.
The media may also be lying and saying Syria is in worse shape than they are. SyerPer seems to have better info that Syria is holding up.
http://www.syrianperspective.com/2015/05/the-battle-for-palmyra-what-rea...
another opposing view:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcvJHJY4i1A
200,000 people in Palmyra? Wow. Well, if they too had a "Well Regulated Militia", you know what they'd do to ISIS?
The same thing that 200 gun toting US bikers did to a dozen Cops: Surrender.
So far, the only people who are not total "pussies", are East Ukrainians, Palestinians and ZioCon-backed ISIS.
ISIS don't need no stinking badges
Far as I know, Palmyra is in New Jersey. It was overrun years ago. No point trying to take it back now, they're dug in too deep.
Well, the difference is that the Palmyra in the ME is a place where people want to go see the ruins.
Only thing left to do is blow the bridge connecting the town to Philly. This might save Palmyra.
Cover for Zion's Lebensraum operation in Syria.
I wonder what will become of the Syrians?! Maybe the Palestinians can assist us with that question?!
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
Indeed kchrisc,
Eretz Israel
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future
The Ethnic Clique That Sold Us The Iraq War
http://zfacts.com/node/297
A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eightiesby Oded Yinon, translated by Israel Shahak | KIVUNIM / Palestine with Provenance | February 1982
"Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel's targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. An Iraqi-Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shi'ite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north. It is possible that the present Iranian-Iraqi confrontation will deepen this polarization."
http://www.monabaker.com/pMachine/more.php?id=A2298_0_1_0_M
Well it's about time. And I hear that ISIS is also in the Spratlys.
The native dark skinned dark eyed ISIS guys from Iran did a bang up job, BTW of practicing their infiltration methodologies in China during Operation Hello Kitty Vibrator. The Chinks never saw 'em coming, they infiltrated right into the Laundries and Chop Suey shoppes and now, the ISIS guys have the Chinks building ISIS whole fucking islands in the middle of fuck all nowhere in the Pacific, right about where if you try to look for it on Google maps, you can't find a fucking thing. See, they even got it hidden.
Thinkin' about it, maybe Headbanger is right....
So pounce already you big mouth pussy.
The USA needs to pounce back to defending it's own borders and true strategic interests.
Let's get completely out of the Middle Eastern cesspool and let the insane, violent Islamic crazies wipe each other out. Who cares?
Fuck their oil. We can easily acheive energy independence if we put half the effort into it that we put into our endless wars.
this is the one i simply cannot understand. we want to destroy ISIS yet ISIS is doing their best to topple assad (i remember seeing ISIS taking over a syrian airforce base and killing everyone except a few pilots they were using to show them how to fly fighter jets). we invade saddam and turned that place upside down even tho iraq and iran basically treated each other as a check in the region. we oust saddam, now we're concerned about "iran's increased influence in the region" (im sure we'd be concerned if they took over canada). we oust gaddafi in libya and that place turns into an absolute basket case. we get behind a coup in egypt (several times) that place goes upside-down and inside-out.
i come away with 2 break-aways:
1. learning what i've learned from this website and digging into the policies, ive become pretty much a full-blown libertarian. why? i ask 1 question: given that there is no difference between the bush & obama presidencies (economically or foreign policy wise), had ron paul been running this place the last 10+ years, we'd have no debt, be engaged in no wars, saddam and iran would have their little spats but it would last a few years, then they take a break, then resume. end of the day nothing major, region contained (which "contained is the term i keep hearing tossed around as to what our best goal is now). fiscally, we'd have no debt, no fed purchasing bonds with $$$ that doesn't exist. debt would be cleared and we could build a foundation on concrete, steel, and titanium inside of this sand castle i feel we have built-up just a few yards from the oceans-edge.
2. the saying "those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it". granted, we (the U.S.) might not agree with everything that russia, iran, iraq, china, etc. do in their own country but isn't that the very definition of diversity? we didn't exactly see eye-to-eye with stalin but we were able to work with him so the nazis didn't burn the planet to the ground. back to syria, we may not agree with assad but isn't he fighting the guys we are most worried about? so what does obama, hillary, mccain, etc. want to do? arm a few thousand rebels and ask them to destroy ISIS and the syrian government for us. i have to imagine at some point it would be to COMPLETELY RETHINK what the fuck we are doing.
Lol ... you and I might think that ISIS should be destroyed. But ISIS is a CIA/Mossad created mercenary army. As long as they are being paid by the CIA through Turkey, Saudi Arabia and/or Israel then they will do what the CIA tells them to do. ISIS will attack Assad because they are equipped by and paid to on behalf of the zio-globalist government. There was an outcry against the US engaging in another war of conquest and chaos in the middle east. But as long as the US government does not acknowledge that it controls ISIS, it is free to do US government business.
Keep that in mind if ISIS is ever accused of attacking civilian targets in the US. You will know that it was actually paid for and sanctioned by the CIA/Mossad.
oh no man, don't get me wrong. i just think the whole fucking thing is upside down. we created ISIS by ousting saddam. now we want to oust them but the guy who is fighting them the fiercest is assad who we simultaneously want to oust. iran is fighting ISIS but we want to fight them while they fight ISIS. ive just hit the point it seems like theres simply not enough war to go around for the nobel peace prize winning president to the extent that my head is doing 360s on a daily basis just trying to figure out who we're siding with and who we're fighting over there. might just wanna stay the F out of other peoples backyards, back water bodies, and back air spaces is probably an easy way to sum what i was trying to get at.
Maybe the US just wants to cause as much mayhem as possible to destabilize the entire region. Keeping the Sunni and Shia locked in perpetual mortal combat, while the MIC capitalizes on the rolling disaster is a viable business plan that has paid huge
dividends to a select few. Monetizing misery is a lucrative venture. This shit goes beyond anything some punk figure head muppet POTUS, of either party, has any bearing on. The Deep State calls the shots, so STFU and hand over your tax dollars.
"we"
Who is this we? On this level of playing field there is us (7 billion people) and them (TPTB). They want us fighting each other from every conceivable direction so we never notice them getting richer and more dominant.
dearest BoPeople,
neither 'paid for' nor 'sanctioned'...
call it, rather: engineered
hahahahahaaaa...
see: www.provokethegoyim.blogspot.com
ISIS' job is to lay the groundwork for Greater Israel - by cleansing all that was there, removing minorities that Westerners might sympathize with. When they are done purging the place of history, all that will be left will be these savages in an empty desert - perfect starting position for annexation by Israel. No ancient Christians, Druzes, and secular Alawites left - who are obstacles to the zionist propaganda of the savage Arab tent and desert dwellers - then it will be much easier for the Zionists to grab more Arab land. And look, those cwazy Arabs, destroying their own heritages, so who would deny now our efforts to stop them?
That is what they have done since 1948 erasing all evidence of a century old cultures which have been there before "Israel" was founded. All those cultural heritage sites prove that the ancient Hebrews were just a small and pathetic semitic tribe among many others with no importance to world history.
Everything else is just bullshit.
are you REALLY that innocent? USA created ISIS to fight their dirty wars for them because the Americans won't agree to a 3rd Iraq invasion or to an invasion of Syria. It's so obvious to anyone who just thinks for a minite. Time for you to start reading other web sites instead of CNN. http://thesaker.is/latest-articles/, http://www.washingtonsblog.com http://www.veteranstoday.com, http://en.people.cn, http://mycatbirdseat.com, http://sjlendman.blogspot.com, http://offguardian.org, http://www.counterpunch.org, http://www.whatreallyhappened.com, http://www.sott.net, http://www.globalresearch.ca, http://www.informationclearinghouse.info,
After the US government claming imaginary "weapons of mass distraction" in Iraq you should not believe ANYTHING US gov says.
The US uses radical elements to foster their geopolitical objectives (examples are countless), the only difference with ISIS is that it has indeed become a very potent and sophisticated group (nothing like that has ever existed before), but the primary objective behind their existance is the removal of Assad. Once that is achieved it will be dealt with properly, not with BS "air strikes" (FFS, they droned individual targets in busy streets in Yemen yet they never drone ISIS in the desert, they even ignore their victory parades stretching miles...), but proper air-strikes and perhaps even boots on the ground (most likely foreign anyway as the US is always preferring others doing their dirty work...).
Has the BIS tied Central Bank of Syria been created yet? The globalist techno-tards seem to create the bank before they capture the country and throw it into chaos.
It is odd how those rebels always know exactly how to form a central bank in each country that is overthrown.
Yep! Did exactly that in Libya. No sooner than .....
Interesting, no? Mention that to 99.9% of folks and they'll just look at you with a vacant stare... as in s'f-ing what.
Also point out the amazing coincidences (not, duh) of gold being "captured", sold, redeemed, etc., and even the fucking numbers down to +/- a few tons add up. A la, Libya's new CB sells some of the old CB gold for salaries and supplies (no, nobody's ever done that... stuff's always financed by the backers, US, UK, etc.) that Just Happens to Equal the Amount that Hugo asked Repatriated from the BoE to Venezuela. Same thing with some 40 tons that somebody asked for just before the French went into Mali (via USAF flights) which produced how much gold a year? 40 fucking tons.
Haha!
Man, the Irony in that everywhere we have interests Geopolitically....ISIS is there.....waiting for us.
Such a bizarre and strange coincidence no?
Yeh, you don't even have to send troops anymore. Just call 15 minutes before you bomb, and pretend you're fighting terrrists. ^^
More tavistock zio mind fucks for the idiocracts. ISIS is a zionist creation to cleanse the way for the greater israel mythology. Once they are finished there, they will be imported into the ole USSA to do what the bolshevik critters did in Russia, kill million upon million. Standing in the way of this of course is the ole sticky issue of gun rights in America, thus the need for the Twin Peaks hoax story of rednecks and guns.
+ a bazillion for Tavistock. Most people never ever heard of it.
Just for shits and giggles, BTW if you're so prone, try Googling "Esalen" and finding bad poop. The web's been well scrubbed.
BTW, Esalen was where Don Draper almost had is Awakening and Redemption in the conclusion of "Mad Men" Also tied into some mighty interesting "theories", but pretty deeply.
Anybody got a bet on if Gun Rights are in TPP or TAP Treaties?
How about Cleaning up the Web?
Censuring the Internet?
Defamation of Governments like China, Singapore, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, King or Queen of Thailand or Sultan of Malaysia?
So all of a sudden new Internet Rules and authority of Regulator take on whole new meaning.
Of course I have seen stuff deleted from Wikipedia so I assume Hillary Clinton's Bio is all Sanitized Propaganda.
Fuck Qatar
I expect to be junked by Bin Thani's eunuch
This could very well lead to an huge influx of Muslims into the US
I believe it is planned
This is not good
Things are accelerting very quickly
Would be smart to stock up BEFORE Sept.
Things are beginning to crumble
That would be the goal. The Obama Cabal wants to turn America into shithole like the rest of the world. Dearbornistan for the rest of America.
Israel must be getting nervous looking at a map like that.
Why? They built that.
If youve got ISIS in your backyard... you didnt build that! Somebody, somewhere... some Jew helped you build that!"
hardly, they created this.
An Iraqi Senator has said "The US is not interested in fighting ISIS as much as they are interested in stage managing ISIS actions".
What he meant was, the US does little to stop ISIS, but does seek to direct the direction of ISIS attacks, and who and when they make a military move on. ISIS is being used to lay ground for a US invasion and bombing of Syria.
If the US wanted ISIS gone, a rapid reaction force of armor and infantry, combined with air assets could be rushed via air lift and sea lift. Once on the battle field, even 20K American troops could roll up ISIS lines and totally destroy their combat capabilities, then IRAQ Army forces could move in and hold the ground.
If ISIS is a threat, then we need to end them. But we are not. We are doing just what the Iraq Senator said, we seek to direct ISIS in aid of US foreign policy.
Yes indeed Jack Burton .. . and the real target is ASSAD and taking him out one way or the other .. ISIS IS PURELY A USSA CREATION .. along with various NATO lap dogs and Saudi and Israel interests .. it a FUBAR of major propotions on the road to WWIII.
When the ISIS job is done, they will rename the country to iSyria.
And everybody'll get a new iBammyphone
Back in October David Stockman wrote about Syria and ISIS but he left out that this is about REGIME CHANGE in Syria not about ISIS. The USAF bombed a Syrian gas plant the week before he penned the article and has attacked targets not related to ISIS but rather to the government of Assad.
ISIS had been trained and armed by .gov to overthrow Assad in Syria.
Syria was slated to undergo what Libya and Iraq did, destabilization. This was the primary aim of the Jewish lobby and so the government of the USA, the slave of the Jewish lobby, went ahead and trained and armed ISIS to overthrow Assad. Who is an ophthalmologist. He and his lovely wife and children are WHITE people. They celebrate CHRISTMAS!
The lemmings may be fooled, if they even are watching or reading anything about it, which I doubt, but not informed observers who read media that are not owned by the 5th column in this nation of America.
As of June 2003 Israel has cost the US taxpayers over $3 Trillion. Probably double that by now.
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/june2003/0306020.html
Ya Ya Ya
The US gov a slave of the Jewish lobby?
We got a Muslim President, who definitly is not backing Israel!
Ya'll need to get your head out of your asses
We are about to be overthrown by Islam per invitation of the Islamic president Obama
It is not the Jews it is the Muslims
Obviously you dont know how things are run in the US gov.
You're a muppet.
And - Russia/Putin consented to, coorperated in and in many ways helped facilitate what was done to Iraq, Libya, Serbia, EUke and Syria.
I bet Syria wishes it had not given up it's chemical weapons when Putin twisted their arms to do so. But what were they to do? Putin used his supply of small arms ammo and other supplies as a persuader. The chemical weapons were the only thing that concerned the US/Israel.
Iran needs to move full speed in China's direction and drop Putin now.
Putin is buying time, just as Neville Chamberlin did.He gets a bad rap in history
He already delayed the Syrian invasion by nearly two years.
Syria will probably end the same way as Czechoslovakia, but Russia will win the war,
and thats all that counts for Putin..
Great point Winston. Chamberlin bought the British science community time to make Radar an effective air warning and tracking system. Time to develop basic fighter direction using radar. Time for Britain to sign contracts with the USA to sub contract aircraft engine parts and supply light metals. Time for Fighter command to transition to the two new fighter aircraft Spitfire and Hurricane. Time for the Royal Navy to design and get some anti submarine escort ships on the building ways. Chamberlin could not take Britain to war, he had to buy time, and he did. He did what he could in an impossible situation. 1940, the Royal Navy closed the seas, while radar directed new model fighters defeated the Luftwaffe bombing campaign, all because time was bought.
Chamberlain tried to prevent the plans for war on Germany.
He made statements, not public, who the aggressors were.
You got it Laddie.. but do not put it all on the 'jewish lobby .. .a lot of this has to do with the Saudis and Qatar .. the Israelis hate Assad but so do the Saudis and Qatar .. when you LOOK through the jews are responsilbe for everything .. you are going to miss significant truth .. OUR wars of choice have cost us 6 trillion .. and the loss of half of our liberty and sovereignty.
NUKE EM NOW !!!!!!!!!
2000 AT4s..?? Holy crap that's a lot. How much is that costing? Yet they can't fix our dam roads and put people back to work?? I keep running over potholes on these god awful roads. I'm so sick of the government flushing my tax dollars down the toilet.
Wasnt Obama supposed to be about hope and change.. Whatever happened to that??
How many will get used as intended v how many just disappear.
Reminiscent of the Stinger fiasco in Afghanistan so many years ago.
I thought the US gave the Stingers to the Taliban (or Rebels whatever) to shoot down Russian helicopters.
Northern Alliance not Rebels. Who were so fucked up the people welcomed the Taliban ("they're strict..but fair").
He meant; rope and chains.
It wasn't your hope and change he was talking about, same as always.
We have to arm, train & fund ISIS so we can go in and take em out!
- General Pelosi
Since we've declared "no boots on the ground", I reckon our troops will be running around wearing flip-flops.
being an american solier fighting soldiers funded by your own government by way of saudi satrap control, would be kinda fun if you knew how pointless it was and you weren't really trying to kill or be killed.
yossarian seemed to have fun in catch 22.
A successful 'war' needs eagles in the sky and bears on the ground...
Hey Europe! Get your ass in gear with that EUArmy and fix this before you end up with more mooselmen as a result of their "refugeeness."
Life means nothing to banksters. They should start jumping.
Added Bonus: Oil pops above $80 and buys the Shale HY a bit more time.
Sorry, I see a completely different play here. Please comment.... I see ISIS's activities in Iraq, solely being used to draw Iran in, and that the ISIS Proxy would be the ground arm for the Saudi / Turkey versus Iran Sunni Shia war... There can basically be no other explanation as to why the US hasnt A-10'd these bozos into the stone age.
perhaps all the "conspiracy theorists" are right and prez hussein wants to help out with the caliphate.
Partial reason . draw in Iran . but only partial .. they .. meaning the PTB want Assad gone . create chaos ala Libya . the Western oligarchs can not have any competition as they drag us kicking and screaming into the new world order .. we leave every single place we go in ruins and chaos . and we learn NOTHING in the process.. giving us some intimation that lunatics with an agenda are in charge of policy .. the new world order is being shoved down our throat one misadventure and phony WAR at a time .. it will end at some point in World War ... for now short term .. Assad being ousted is the goal.
Wasnt the original reason for getting Assad gone, to get rid of the Russian Pipeline? With the state of Syria, that pipe line is as they say a pipe dream.. An ISIL Syria with an Isreal border cant be the plan, can it?
I guarantee you the target is NOT ISIS . its ASSAD . .
Anybody know why this pipeline can't run from Saudi to Egypt to the Med, but must, MUST run through Syria?
Because its not about a gas pipeline.Thats way to vulvnerable to disprution.
Its about the headwaters of the river Jordan.
No resupply of Hezbollah across Syria, so the water constrained Israel can survive and
expand .
Of course ISIS is cover for US/Israel intent.
The spiritual side (if there is such a thing) of ISIS is the same as Saudi Arabia.
So you have US+Saudi+Israel vs Syria, Iran. It will draw in Russia and/or China soon.
The question is, is there a older play between Israel and China? Israel Epstein etc. I guess we will see. Poor syrian people. The unholy thing about US/Israel/Saudi is that they reward psychopaths (ISIS) and kill innocents. Some fucking satanistic blood magic going on. But hey, it has been going on since forever, really, the only difference is shifting awareness about the narrative.
Sorry, ZH i don't buy that story about pipelines.... anymore.
There is enough energy for the next 1000 years.
But what is the driving factor ?
Putins naval base ?
Potable water for Israel.
"...Next 1000 years"
I hope meant /sarc
So the Israelis figured out if they put enough fake ISIS members in a country then the Americans will send their children in to die.
Hell YEAH, let's go back, we can pick up our military equipment from ISIS garage sales and save a TON of money...
Dear Leader will NOT pounce. He will use the chaos to fool the idiots and use it as his way to secure the middle east by siging the Iran agreement.
Think like a communist who is power hungry
eventually it will be all religion as the enemy how will israel like that.
"Having a plan" and actually doing something about ISIS is like the difference between getting a letter from Einstein and actually building an Atomic Bomb.
Watching the Navy drop a few bombs here and there McCain's Cockfag "no boots on the ground" Navy is like watching George Clooney try and act.
PAINFUL.
That place is a deathtrap Dream Come True!
AIPAC is on the site down arrowing everybody who forgets to bow down to the masters.
They don't give a fuck about yours or anyone else's opinion.
They're happy enough taking some vig from lining up Congress with the big money donors.
That's their job and they're pretty damn good at it. Strangely enough, there's no shortage of funds and hands to grab it, so they don't work up much of a sweat.
Occasionally, a couple of over-zealous staffers will start peeking in some Congressional paperwork to see if their hoe is going to stay bought, but generally the money is to good to stiff em.
Wrong Shovelhead. If you were right and AIPAC did not care, there would be no hasbra hit team on the Web. There would be no GIYUS. There would not be be hired trolls and encouraged ideologues to sing the Zino song book. They already own the media. They are afraid of the truth that leaks out on the internet. If they were not concerned, they would not be trying so hard to stop it.
"hand over control of Syria to Turkey and Iraq"
Like they could control shit ... Turkey is heading for a civil war and Iraq is in one.
Fed up to the back teeth with this US aggression with some spurious false flag excuse. The destruction of a pile of old rocks is scraping the bottom of the pork barrel.
Is anyone asking the public if they wish to pay millions of dollars out of their pockets to protect a ruin? Has anyone how the U.S. are to carry out this task, will they be using polystyrene and feather bombs, because it would seem to me, that using high explosive weaponry is hardly going to make the situation better.
They must seriously believe the American public is as thick as The Simpsons shows them to be.
ISIS is the USA and Israel, and they are getting the job done. Assad is almost gone.
Yes and no. Assad is not almost gone.
The US government revels in spilling rivers of blood.
Wait until our heroes come home and liberate Amerika from the fanatical gold hording extremists threatining our peaceful way of life..if you have nothing to hide,you're a liar and cheat..if you have something to hide,you're a scoundrel and thief..either way,you're unpatriotic ass is going to a re-education camp for further evaluation
I don't see that happening. The whole point of military training and boot camps is to turn you into follower and executor, not thinker.
Hold on, what about those un-intended consequences...Assads' allies!
where's iran and russia by the way?...let me know if the "fat" lady starts to sing
it seems to me that the point were Syria will do something desperate is near.
Damascus may soon be gone
It will make many happy here when Israel gets the blame
But you don't see the hidden driving hand
It will be a gotcha moment
Some carving up soon to be done
Russia and US land grab
Russia is not expansionistic. There is no US. Next.
I don't think that Russia is going to leave that nice snug naval base in Latakia without Putin a foot up someones ass.
US soldiers and ISIS terrorists have two things in common they love to destroy ancient cultural artifacts.
I really don't know how all this going to play out for the US government but I'm sure the 'element surprise' is in the hands of those who know how deep the US govt is involved in all this.
"The US Prepares To Pounce..."
On Syria
Mercenaries of a feather flock together.
Kill everyone; let us not be prejudicial in so far as race, religion or state be concerned; let us make sure that those who stand against our model of the Universe based on the invincibility of our ignorance, wealth, enslavement and genetic liability be totaly destroyed.
We need a blockade of the middle east and north afrika. Only thing allowed is weapons of any kind but nukes...
Nobody leaves....It will be down to a handful of people in a year or two and then we can reason with them and make them realize that even though we do not need it anymore...
It is our oil and their sand...
You camel jocky's get the sand and we get the oil....
End of negotiation....
No bullshit or any fuking WMAD or some weird gas....
Just lay it out and if they don't like it shoot them too!
Then you can hire the one dude left in saudi arabia to head the human rights council!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or you know, just wait till ISIS ``spreads`` to Iran... so the US can invade Iran too...