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US Retaliates At China Escalation, Warns Sea "Sandcastles" May "Lead To Conflict"
On Wednesday we showed what happens when US spy planes carrying CNN reporters get too close to China’s land reclamation project in the South China Sea. In short, the Chinese Navy not-so-politely advises them to “Go now!”
China is working diligently to construct man-made islands atop reefs in the Spratly archipelago where Beijing shares disputed waters with the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan. For its part, Washington is none too pleased with the effort and in a fantastic example of ironic rhetoric and American hypocrisy, The White House is shouting about violations of territorial sovereignty and Chinese “bullying”.
The Pentagon meanwhile has said the US may consider confronting China in the region with surveillance aircraft (and CNN crews apparently) and war ships, a move China has gently advised against, telling Washington that it might be in everyone’s best interest if the US “refrains from risky and provocative actions," and now, China looks to have conducted a practice bombing raid on Wednesday.
Via The South China Morning Post:
China's air force sent a group of strategic bombers through the Miyako Strait south of Okinawa in a long-range drill for the first time yesterday as part of military exercises in the western Pacific.
The manoeuvre came as US-based CNN reported that the Chinese navy repeatedly warned a US surveillance plane to leave airspace over artificial islands that Beijing is building in the disputed South China Sea.
CNN reported that on Wednesday a Chinese navy dispatcher demanded eight times that a US Air Force P8-A Poseidon surveillance aircraft leave the area as it flew over Fiery Cross Reef, where China has conducted extensive reclamation work. The exercise and the warnings underscore growing tensions between the armed forces of China and the United States, and China's neighbours.
PLA Air Force spokesman Colonel Shen Jinke said in a statement on The PLA Daily's website that the bombers flew over the strait in a routine drill that was part of a blue-water training exercise.
Shen said the drill was not aimed at any country, region or target, and similar exercises could be conducted in future.
Now that the Chinese Navy has explicitly told at least one US surveillance aircraft to “leave immediately” (and implicitly threatened to shoot it down, CNN camera crew and all), it’s the US’s turn to ratchet up the war rhetoric. This time it’s John Kerry’s deputy Secretary of State Antony Blinken’s turn to denounce China’s series of sea sandcastles. Reuters has more:
China's land reclamation around reefs in the disputed South China Sea is undermining freedom and stability, and risks provoking tension that could even lead to conflict, U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Antony Blinken told a conference in Jakarta.
China claims 90 percent of the South China Sea, which is believed to be rich in oil and gas, its claims overlapping with those of Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Vietnam and Taiwan.
Recent satellite images suggest China has made rapid progress in filling in land in contested territory in the Spratly islands and in building an airstrip suitable for military use and that it may be planning another.
"As China seeks to make sovereign land out of sandcastles and redraw maritime boundaries, it is eroding regional trust and undermining investor confidence," Blinken said on Wednesday.
"Its behavior threatens to set a new precedent whereby larger countries are free to intimidate smaller ones, and that provokes tensions, instability and can even lead to conflict."
As for China … well, let’s just say that the resolve to implement territorial expansion via fake island construction is pretty strong:
China said its determination to protect its interests was "as hard as a rock".
Asked about Blinken's remarks, China's Foreign Ministry demanded on Thursday that the United States abide by the principle of not taking sides on the South China Sea, and said his comments damaged trust in the region.
"The U.S. assumptions are groundless," ministry spokesman Hong Lei told a regular briefing.
“Groundless” though these assumptions may be, one thing that is now certainly not “groundless” is Fiery Cross Reef.
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Satellite photography has identified three cement plants operating on the island.
China has already constructed in excess of 60 semi-permanent or permanent buildings.
At least 20 structures are visible on the southern side of the island (ZH: including a helipad).
China is building an airstrip on the island. The airstrip is likely large enough to land nearly any Chinese aircraft.
Images taken on April 11 show the runway more than one-third complete.
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...undermining investor confidence WTF!!!
seriously who gives a fuck about investor confidence?
Why are the enviros not all over this? Commies just destroyed a reef.
The good thing is that anything can be made into a reef; jut sink it in shallow water and things will grow around it. There is no doubt in my mind environmental whackos are paid by corporations to harrass and make legal challanges to their corporate rivals.
So the pentagram thinks it can just fly over the islands without being harassed? That's hilarious...
Anyone trying that to a pentagram aircraft carrier (regardless of whether it was in international waters) would be shot down with little to no warning.
Wait... there were CNN reporters on board?
I will NEVER forgive China for not blowing it out of the sky!
One HARP induced Tsunami is all it would take.
Reefer bitchz
jb
It would not even have to be HAARP. Just create a massive underwater landslide with some standard munitions.
With a Tsunami-bomb. But maybe that is why China is practicing fortifying the beach.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/newzeal...
FACT: All this is a set up for WWIII in a few years.
FACT: The US has gotten rid of all their MIRV (multiple) warheads, while China/Russia have kept theirs.
FACT: 50% of th US missle subs must stay in port at any one time. Also the vast majority of our nukes are in fixed silos whos locations are well known, where as Russia/China's are mobile (trucks, railcars, etc.)
FACT: The US missle defense systems are a complete failure.
FACT: The US contiinues to disarm under the START treaty, while Russia ignores it.
FACT: The START treaty does not cover China.
FACT: The US is currently rennovating mutiple Cold War Bomb shelters, including Cheyene Mountain.
FACT: The US is marching us into a hot war with Russia and China. While keeping it's citizen's in the dark.
FACT: If you have any doubt as to the US being controlled by Globalist Oligarchs, just look at the sucidal actions above.
The whole evil NWO Oligarch plan, if you're interested:
http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html
Winter is coming, you still have time to prepare, save yourself and those you love. Prepare!!!
FACT: If Joel Skousen says it's true, it must be so.
Not necessarily, but he makes a pretty good fact based logical case for what is going on.
The global financial system is melting down and there is too much debt overload. This this the time in history where you have to reset asset values down or destroy and currency and start a new game. Its called a pyramid scheme. The US benefited for decades by annihilating all the modern economies after the Depression- until our economy cratered. We tried to start a bunch of wars in Asia to no avail. Finally we defaulted in the 70s. Here we are again, with fiat trash currency and huge debt overload. Except this time we cannot make a damn thing and we are China's gadget slaves(is:Tim Cooks bioches)
Debt always has to get voided when the private financial system goes haywire as it did in the turn of the Century
The global financial system is melting down and there is too much debt overload. This this the time in history where you have to reset asset values down or destroy and currency and start a new game. Its called a pyramid scheme. The US benefited for decades by annihilating all the modern economies after the Depression- until our economy cratered. We tried to start a bunch of wars in Asia to no avail. Finally we defaulted in the 70s. Here we are again, with fiat trash currency and huge debt overload. Except this time we cannot make a damn thing and we are China's gadget slaves(is:Tim Cooks bioches)
Debt always has to get voided when the private financial system goes haywire as it did in the turn of the Century
FACT: You're mixing 'Facts' with conjectures.
Why would NWO want to surrender to russia/china where it has no serious control?
And why do you assume that US dont have enough nuclear warheads? Anyways its not the amount that matters but making sure that they successfully hit the right spots. Nevertheless in a nuclear war there are no winners only loosers, even if you manage to avoid being hit directly which will be hard due to all the submarines.
The best way to avoid a war is pledging to never ever help NWO making war to another country. At least not until the "enemy" has landed invasiontroops on your soil. To me, the chinese nor the russians are enemy. I have friends in both countries. If NWO thinks I will try kill them they are wrong. But like I said, if there is an mayor invasionforce landing on our soil I might reconsider.
"Anything can be made into a reef".
I disagree. I think many corals take many years to grow, plus the water has to be just the right temperature and salinity, and it has to be clear.
The reason tourism remains a big industry is that people NEED to be around beautiful nature. Rich people don't build their castles next to mine tailings; they build their castles by the sea, or on a mountaintop, or overlooking a river.
What China is doing is very shortsighted and self-destructive. But almost every other "civilized" (divorced from nature, in pursut of personal ego) country is just as shortsighted.
Hmmm, US used to nuke the whole tropical island archipelagos...
The French, too, I think. And probably the British also had some fun.
ACP -> perhaps that was a sarcastic comment.
However if I was a fiscally successful country rich in gold, I would want to protect and keep the warmongering US thieving Nazis away too. You might call it "provide for common defense and common welfare" of its citizens. What a novel idea !
China is as broke or more than all the western countries. There are no clean shirts in this basket....
Really ? China has 67 billion USD a month in imports to US and Canada...20k tons in gold reserves...and zero in external debt, all debt is internal. Oh yes how much US real estate do they own ?
Broke is the US, with an external debt close to 60k per person, twice that of lowly Greek people. Don't look to long, but Fort Knox is filled only with....nerve gas....
I would down vote you but sincerely believe that you have suffered some sort of brain damage.
Please post on romper room.
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Finally, somebody talking sense.
Making craft beer demands attention.---Zapporius
Finally, somebody talking sense.
"Why are the enviros not all over this? Commies just destroyed a reef."
Where is that fat guy with the greenpeace whale boat?
My thoughts exactly!
I think the meaning is that foreign investors in mainland manufacturing plants may not remain 'confident' if the U.S. and China start a shooting war. In such a scenario, asset expropriation risk would appear to be considerable.
Western oil exploration companies are simply waiting for the issue of sovereignty to be settled before committing resources to the area (including the Senkaku Islands). China is staking its claim. No doubt the US wants in on the deal through its surrogates in area.
You're right. Besides, it's not investing anymore anyway. It's gambling.
China to US: "Pound sand!"
.......some people even take pounding sand to extremes.........
hahahahahahhahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa High level trolling.
If you're going to make sand castles you will make them out of FRN's........
3D print a fake island. Please.
Is there anything beyond the purview of the know-nothings in Washington? Do they really need to ratchet up the tensions with a nuclear-armed country over a pile of sand in the ocean thousands of miles away?
Where (or what) is the US "retaliation" ? Did I miss something ??
Like that obnoxious Timmy Brandt in the third grade (oh, how I despised him!) they retaliated by calling names. It doesn't much look like a sandcastle but will it stand up to a Cat5 typhoon or a tsunami?
The US is always being attacked and threatened by rogue nations and terrorists everywhere. You should see the list! Everyone is the enemy of the US. And if they can't find anyone outside the borders, they just pick a class of people inside the borders to make an enemy.
We can't even manage our southern boarder!
If CNN is on this you know the propaganda machine is humming away.
China is unfortunately ratcheting up tensions all on its own, leading to smaller countries asking for support from the US of A. Understandably US of A doesn't want to appear like a pussyboy and plays its role of global hegemon to the best of its ability. Yielding to the Chinaman is the same as surrendering Asia after all.
"surrendering Asia."
Are you under the mistaken assumption that Asia is America's to surrender...to Asians? I would think that nearly half the world's population would challenge that belief.
There are Asian countries (most) which are no more keen to be dominated by China (of which there is a very long history) than South American countries are to be dominated by the US.
Cmon all of that happened decades ago, it was only a matter of patience while building up, and keeping own population working and not rebelling. Unless you really mean to use them nukes, of course. Which won't be one-sided affair.
So might as well fold up now, and start building solar panels and show us the way out of this mess, if you wanna claim that you are exceptional in any way.
Hey old man. I have news for you. This is the 21st century, not the 1950s anymore.
Sea Sand Castles > lol, That's a good one.
You go now, we building castles in the sand... You go find your own sand box to play in.
"My romance .... doesn't need a castle .... rising in Spain !" (This is not a man crush .... I'm just feelin' good !)
Wow, that island outpost is badass
The college classrooms might be empty by next year. That's ok with me.
The Oil of Sandwich .... lives in a Sand Castle ! Who was that dufus troll .... who said .... "It's called the South China Sea !" .... name games are a specialty of leftist twerps .... the Indian Ocean doesn't belong to India ? WTF
What are we worried about. Global warming will flood these islands in a few months.
Or you might get the impression that the Chinese don't believe the global warning BS.
"Its behavior threatens to set a new precedent whereby larger countries are free to intimidate smaller ones, and that provokes tensions, instability and can even lead to conflict."
This would not be a new precedent at all. The US is highly experienced in exactly this sort of thing. Such statements are made for the American people because the rest of the world just shakes its collective head at American government arrogance and hypocrisy.
The hypocrisy is going through the roof on this one.
there is small but fast-growing number of americans who shake our heads at our government's hypocrisy. "some folks" don't like being hypocrites, nor do we like having to hang our heads in shame when talking about international/military events with friends abroad.
outside of the US, everyone knows that china primarily uses "soft diplomacy", i.e. carrots. china makes partners of those whom it has a mutual interest with (africa), and it stays out of others' business when it is not directly threatened (eastern european conflict).
the US primarily uses "hard diplomacy", i.e. sticks. for goodness' sake, one of the most beloved presidents in history popularized the term of carrying a big stick (need i say the rest of the unfinished sentence... "to threaten and beat others with"). even our heroes are bullies through the core. we always get into EVERYONE else's business, regardless whether we have even a tangential interest.
Hypocrited Sum Volk
When I was in SF three years ago, I met some pretty aware people, a whole bunch of consumerist zombies (including hipsters, sorry not sorry), a lot of people just busy trying to keep afloat. There was not too many "Murica fuck yeah" people, most of them know they are being lied to, but the slow frog cooking process makes them docile and minding their own business.
Anyway, nice weather, good food, but all in all, California is a mess. Pieces just don't fit anymore.
It would seem that one good cat5 hurricane could do quite some damage.
'and so castles made of sand... fall in the sea... eventually' - Jimi
They'll just copy our weather control systems. Drop those fancy chemicals in the air and, voila! Typhoon goes away!
How do Chinese women deal with sand issues .... you know .... with the transverse twat ?
in my experience, they go north-south just like any other...
Like a magnetic north line ?
what
Yankee go home
Wow Peace Prize going for the Trifecta
1. Middle East wrecked - Nice pick up of the baton from George W.
2. Russia - Cold War II; check
3. Now China. The true purpose of TPP
He must have Obungholed things worse that we thought.
The Fourfecta: 4. Diaspora of Muslim refugees around the world .... check !
It has all the markings .... of a smoked oyster canning operation .... on a rather large scale !
The principle of not taking sides on the South China Sea?
Who the fuck made that shit up?
Nuke it and see what China does.
Helping American economic recovery by reconstruction of all broken windows in NY.
Gonna take some huge bulkheads to protect them from typhoons.
US Oligarchs are losing power. This isn't a bad thing for the peasants that live in the territory called the United States.
But it ain't a good thing for 'em either... It just is...
I guess the US politicians won't be happy until they just totally piss somebody off and have the US turned to glass. This is the hope and change they live for.
So is us about to "russia" china? If so, then go long YANG!!!
"Its behavior threatens to set a new precedent whereby larger countries are free to intimidate smaller ones, and that provokes tensions, instability and can even lead to conflict."
The hypocrisy of the mouthpieces for the US Imperium is really breathtaking, yet no one out there seems to notice? Dead silence.
While the US is constantly pursuing war, China is doing multi-billion $ business deals with Russia. Last week we had a horrible Amtrak accident, another sign of decaying US infrastructure. The US spends $1 billion on rail. China will spend over $100 billion next year. Which country is looking to the future?
For real right? I mean America hasn't even built 1 spare city? WTF?
No spares, but quite a few blowouts.
"Last week we had a horrible Amtrak accident, another sign of decaying US infrastructure. "
Bullshit! The engineer was masterbating.....
He's a fxxking queer that was an affermative action hire, a fag. He's posted dick pics all over the net and was doing 100mph in a curve that is posted 40mph. Claims he doesn't remember anything.
The infrastructure had nothing to do with it.
Things are bad enough, you don't have to make stuff up.
Squid
Yeah investors... LOL... Like the tax breaks you give corporations to move american jobs to China?? Yeah cause investors will be real fucking important once millions are dying from ww3! What a tard.
Want to stop China?? BAN FUCKING WAL-MART. They are a slave corporation anyway. BAN ALL INVESTMENTS IN CHINA FROM THE US. BAN ALL IMPORTS FROM CHINA.
STOP FUNDING OUR ENEMY YOU FUCKING HACKS... OR YOU'RE A BUNCH OF LIARS AND DON'T GIVE A FUCK.
"China's land reclamation around reefs in the disputed South China Sea is undermining freedom and stability, and risks provoking tension that could even lead to conflict,"
So which of the following shitholes have more 'freedom and stability' after USA intervention: Ukraine, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen?
This monster (China) was concieved by the greed heads in DC, who systematically dismantled and shipped our once great nation's productive capacity to the land of super cheap labor.
Ok.
China and Russia are growing powers (funded by exported industries-to-sell-shit-back-to-us).
What do growing powers do with their rise?
They advance their influence through their growing power beyond themselves. To some degree, they even seek to shape the larger world around them to advantage themselves, and to protect their expanding interests.
And so forth, and so on...
Sounds like us, doesn't it?
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Ok.
China and Russia are growing powers (funded by exported industries-to-sell-shit-back-to-us).
What do growing powers do with their rise?
They advance their influence through their growing power. To some degree, they even seek to shape the larger world around them to advantage themselves, and to protect their expanding interests.
And so forth, and so on...
Sounds like us, doesn't it?
m
Calm down, it's just an economic stimulus program. After ghost towns they build some ghost islands.
China makes something out of nothing and is the bad guy.
Irony really is lost on most seppo's.
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More Kabuki Theater.
All the US has to do, is to build one of its own at the Straights of Malacca. Then watch China squirm.
Starting to read like Starship Troopers. From Wikipedia(Bold and Italic Font my enhancements):
"Interspersed throughout the book are other flashbacks to Rico's high school History and Moral Philosophy course, which describe how in the Terran Federation of Rico's day, the rights of a full Citizen (to vote and hold public office) must be earned through some form of volunteer Federal service. Those residents who have not exercised their right to perform this Federal Service retain all other rights generally associated with a modern democracy (free speech, assembly, etc.), but they cannot vote or hold public office. This structure arose ad hoc after the collapse of the "20th century Western democracies", brought on by both social failures at home (among which appear to be poor handling of juvenile delinquency) and military defeat by the Chinese Hegemony overseas.[16]"
When Mr. Heinlein (a Senior Alumnus to me - not bragging, full disclosure of my Worldview and Bias, er, Leanings ^_^) wrote this, we were still on the Bretton Woods-Gold Standard, so if he had inserted "Failed Economic/Central Banking Policies", it would have been Perfect.
Sort out your oil leak first, dick.
It's the Very Rich, you know, the ones who are trying to enslave us all that will profit without mainstreet profiting from the death and destuction that is comeing. Fighting for ones home is one thing but fighting for thegreed of others is another. Refuse to fight, let the children of the leaders, their minnions andthe .1% fight this . let them earn their money the old fashion way. Lets see the bankers and those who push paper stand up in the front lines. After all it's their profits they want......not yours. Hell they dont even treat those who fell into Countries pride retoric a fair shake with health care after their personal world tumbled around with suffering.
We have finished all our annexing and re-drawing boundaries (alaska, hawaii, texas) so it is now not allowed.
The UK was the home of the industrial revolution and one time work shop of the world.
The US and Western Europe used tariffs on British goods to catch up (and overtake).
Now we have the advantage, we insist on free trade so you can't catch up like we did.
When the B-52's flew over Senkaku Islands, I knew chinese provocation was only a prelude of this current conflict. They were only testing US reaction. There's not a lot of oil-natgas there.
The real prize is the South China Sea with its vastly rich minerals. The one who grabs it will control Asia.
hero
Blinked said,
"Its behavior threatens to set a new precedent whereby larger countries are free to intimidate smaller ones, and that provokes tensions, instability and can even lead to conflict."
Is he talking about the U.S. Here. I am beginning to question if we should continue to be the Worlds gatekeeper?
Dr. Moreau would be jealous. Maybe the chinese are building hybrid obama/bernanke/krugmans on this island so they can unleash socialist, keynesian zombies onto their enemies.
As an American, here is how I see it:
1.) The U.S. operates and/or controls between 700 and 800 military bases world-wide (outside the U.S.);
2.) The U.S. Military has bases in 63 countries;
3.) There are 255,065 US military personnel deployed world-wide;
4.) The U.S. is building a NEW military base in the PHILIPPINES
5.) The U.S. is building a NEW military base in OKINAWA (Japan) to replace an existing base - despite numerous protests b island residents (many of whom will be displaced from their ancestral homes and property).
6.) The U.S. has a military base at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean, thereby controlling that trade route.
7.) The U.S. has a fleet continuously based in the Arabian Sea, from which it can control trade routes into the Gulf of Oman (between Iran and the pro-U.S. Gulf countries) and the Gulf of Aden (leading into the Red Sea and the Suez Canal).
Yet, the U.S. government (run by the State Department, it appears) THREATENS China for building a few bases on atolls traditionally Chinese for centuries ?????? Where are the DIPLOMATS that used to be work at the State Dept (e.g., Dean Rusk)? Now, Kerry's response to EVERTHING is to "threaten conflict" and "military retaliation"?
What HYPOCRISY by the U.S. government !!!!
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yes but you are forgetting something. one way or another all empires die.
and the u.s. is trying to prolong the date at which its scheduled expiration date would leave it dead.
the only way for the u.s. to do this, is like an old sick person attempting to live by clinging to life with more medicine and other nonsense treatements that are transparently poisonous.
instead of dying in a healthy state, the u.s. empire seeks to use self poisonous strategies to prolong its miserable existence as an empire.
Can I see the "island" after the first super Typhoon rolls through.
"As China seeks to make sovereign land out of sandcastles and redraw maritime boundaries, it is eroding regional trust and undermining investor confidence,"
No matter what one thinks of persistant, global US imperial actions and rhetoric, the statement above is completely correct. Build your second home in a major highway cloverleaf and see how that works out.
All the regional interests seem to be largely waiting to see what the US does - I just wish US could STFU and stay out of it. Let the regional powers assemble and execute an effective response. As I recall, the Vietnamese can be pretty feisty when riled.
CNN video "challenging US dominance in the area". Is there any quesiton the United States is an empire? This is the same as if the US was building islands in the gulf of Mexico and chinese spy planes were flying over.
Well, how else will US nullify all that debt that it owes to China if not by going to war. Don't be naive...