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Gramma Nazi.
Muh gramma wuz a nazi.
best i can tell the Nazi weren't all that intelligent
If "Nazi" is the plural, what's the singular?
Nazo?...
Well, it ain't "matzo".
Now THAT is genuinely funny!
you mean there was more than one?
Grammer(spelchecker said so).
I can appreciate how it was easier to convince men to take up arms and fight a foreigner long ago. It was easier to fool men in the past.
Today, what could possess a man to risk his life so that he can escape his wife, his family and friends to live in close quarters with a bunch of other stinking men ---- all to kill other men ---- for money??
It just seems so weird.
Zinc medals with pretty stars on them, 2¢ colored ribbons, and pats on the back?
Hey, hey, hey, those are $2.00 ribbons!
Inflation, don'tcha know?
They do it for the lolz, the enjoyment, the fun...
Speaking as a married man, I can understand why some men will do anything to get away. Why do you think the Vikings went a viking or the gullible catholics crusading or Chinese communists on the long march? Hint: They were almost all married and just couldn't take another minute.
If you are so unhappy about your marriage, then why are you still in that relationship? Are you hinting that you will go postal soon?
more successful businesses have been born of a nagging wife that made it much easier to stay at work than to go home. my first marriage was all about that. i trashed the business before the divorce was final so she wouldn't get anything. that divorce was the most i ever paid, by multiples of 100s, for happiness.
The saying "freedom isn't free" is cruel and ironic meme that is used in order to covince people to keep saluting and following illegal orders. To the US servicemen, STOP OBEYING ILLEGAL ORDERS. Of course freedom is free. Jesus. Think about it. Do you fight on the other side of the world because Afghanis or Iraqis or fucking ANYBODY is an actual threat to this country? You understand that ISIS/Afghanis/Iraquis have NO WAY TO GET HERE to attack?
The real threat to this country is obviously Israel, open your goddamned eyes and do some reading.
STOP OBEYING ILLEGAL ORDERS.
STOP KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE BECAUSE ISRAEL SAYS SO.
yeah we freed the shit out of some folks. shall i go down the list?
The price of freedom isn't an efficient military. Is the military protecting us from the anti-freedom onslaughts of Democrats and Republicans?
The price of freedom is being willing to fight and die for it - each and every individual. Not many in the states willing to be free it seems to me.
My parents were liberated by the Canadians in WW2.
I see the names on the memorial. For a small town in the middle of nowhere the Canadians sacrificed many sons.
In those days the Allies were repelling invaders.
Now allies are the invaders.
I would not doubt those Canadian dead are turning over in their graves.
An up vote from a Canuck, we had the Brits in command of the Canadian forces, you can guess who they sent over the hill or onto the beaches first.
Muggins turn.The ANZACs got it in WWI.
Caen.
Apparently the price of freedom is a little higher than most Murikans are willing to pay...
Free to buy an Apple Phone!!!!!!!!111!!!1!
My parents had to fight their war and they won it.
I greatly appreciate the sacrifices they made both on the field of battle and back on the homefront so that I could have a nicer life than the one they had. They were wonderful, honorable, decent people who did what they thought was right with the information they had available to them at the time. All-in-all, I think they did a pretty damn good job.
Now it's our turn to carry the flag and listening to you cowardly, preening, swollen, spoiled little boys prancing around talking shit about the castle your parents made for you to live in makes me want to vomit.
You don't like the castle or the people running it, then do something about it.
Not happening, is it, you miserable money-grubbing trustafarians. You need to be in front of your computer on Tuesday morning trying to ace out a few nickels in FX from the evil system you complain so much about. You're far too busy and far too important to stand up and fight for your country. The best people don't get their hands dirty like that, do they?
Go ahead and flush it down the toilet. Cheer for the people who made it sink. Cheer for yourselves, because YOU are the ones who are most responsbile. YOU are the ones who see the danger and do nothing to raise the alarm or change the course. YOU are the ones laughing at those who know less but are nevertheless giving it the old college try.
In the end, if you do indeed get your wish for chaos and destruction of the institutions which keep you safe and well-fed, you will not be laughing at all.
May God ever bless and protect the United States of America.
Anybody who wants to fight for our freedom today would have to attack Washington DC (or your local or state government). Going overseas and fighting sure as hell has nothing to do with our freedom.
You believe it's the year 2015 when in fact it's closer to 2199. I can't tell you exactly what year it is because we honestly don't know. There's nothing I can say that will explain it for you, Tarabel.
Fuckin' A, Tarabel! Lay the Truth-Hammer on those silly fuckstains!
Fuckin' Gangsta.
Signed, former Navy LT.CMDR
So basically:
Either shut up, or fight for the corrupt evil institutions (which you should inherently love and revere because reasons) because you might be in a position of relative safety and comfort now and it doesn't matter that it is utterly unsustainable and will eventually collapse, leaving you fucked and far from home.
This, my friends, is what nationalist propaganda does to people's minds.
It does wonderfully clarify the dividing line between the wannabe elect and the common man, does it not?
I will not desert the flag of my fathers in this time of greatest emergency. The fact that the government is in the hands of people such as yourself merely makes the road longer and harder, but it does not deter me from wanting to justify the faith my noble and honored ancestors have (however reluctantly) reposed in me, their dumbass posterity.
I will not spit in their faces and shout that they were idiots and should never have been allowed to procreate, as so many on this subject seem to be saying about their own antecedants.
General Washington saw that three great dangers would befall the Great Republic. The time of the third one is now upon us.
"The whole world united shall not prevail against her."
America will triumph. The evil european philosophy which you and the current "thought-leaders" in government, media, and popular culture have shackled around our necks will be overthrown. We will be free once again.
I hate to see you getting junked so heavily, but you may be living in the past. I admire you for honoring your ancestors and appreciate your respect for tradition. You mention George Washington's thoughts. Have you considered that this not the same country that Washington and your noble ancestors fought for? The same commenters that you railed against may be just as patriotic as you are. Their bitter and cynical comments may be a result of their disaffection with what this country has become.
I also take exception to "The evil European philosophy." Substitute some more relevant adjective for "European", if you know what I mean, and I would have no problem with the statement.
Actually, I'm doing pretty good considering the odds and am greatly encouraged by those who have dared to offer their support.
With regards to General Washington, it is his vision and not mine. He says America will prevail. I personally take heart from this sentiment and try to share it with others who may not have heard the news as of yet.
But it is important to understand the disassociation between the current operations of the institutions of government and the immortal heartbeat of America. (Hey, I was born a Chevy guy and I'll die a Chevy guy)
Neither General Washington nor I say that the US government will prevail, only that America will do so. If the two fight united, oh happy day.
If America must fight against the whole world including those who should be helping us, it will not alter the outcome but merely delay the triumph.
to a buddhist:evil is the promoting of illusion ..the military(any con - modern finance) can only function as illusion..wave a flag brave men and women kill for the illusion of say USA freedom . S Butler "war is a racket" is only possible if those that fight cannot see and are blinded to truth. seek truth before emotion and propaganda-hard to do as truth is hard ..the nature of war has changed in that nation states seek wars that cannot be won are hard to define as to what is victory..climate wars, drug wars, war on terror? like ants motivated by phenomes swarm to defend a hive our dna gives human this ant like trait. It is used against us.
"the matrix of life in the west is based on illusion and as a buddhist i see it as evil.i see the illusions that lead to the police state and concentration of wealth in few hands,humanity can be much more."
(it is said that in the Omaha beach landings the soldiers in the first waves were selected from recent recruits with no battle expirience who never understood the death that awaited them-those that were battle tested came in later landings)
V&B that relevant adjective is where tarabell is coming from. He's just blowing his horn to get all you dumb asses to go over the top and take a few bullets to save his skin. Today he brought a small chorus with him to make it all look real and heartfelt and so forth.
That was inspiring. I get to slog through the unbearable tedium of military training to "be all that I can be" so enlighted creatures like the Insane Shitstain and Vicious Newjew can send me off to foreign lands to murder their civilians for Lord Rottenchild NWO plans. Sounds like a plan. And maybe after looking at what I got myself into and had become, a tool for bloodsucking liars, I would join the rising suicide squad (cause thats the only way to take out the enemy I would see in the mirror). Until I see a real enemy approaching my door, fuck the military. As for the enemy who is already very much in our door, not working for them is a good start, not feeding them is also a useful contribution. I'm off the grid until the time to engage them becomes unavoidable, let the sheeple feed them until its mutton time and the resistance goes mainstream.
Massive applause from a veteran.
Your parents fought to preserve the world they knew.
They did not fight for the world we have today.
Thier world is gone.
They lost.
My parents fought to rid the world of a great evil.
They won.
Now its my turn to fight.
I hope I won't let them down.
When do people recognise that the front line is WS?
What your parents did should be considered a laudable act of charity. But it was not defending their country. If you are saying that, then you are a liar.
Charity is a choice. Each person is free to help others, but there is no requirement. If it is forced as in a draft, then it is tyranny.
The US military today doesn't even secure our borders. Let's not fool ourselves.
I always give thanks to those who fought for our freedom... that one time our freedom was in jeopardy, in 1812.
sooo what I am seeing here, the MIC is leading Obama around by the hand
ah the cult of the noble soldier. what a splendid myth. the record of the american fighting man largely consists of massacring stone age indians during the 19th century and making up in numbers what they lack in skill in WWI and WWII.
and of course we get to the interesting part. in korea, they were stomped by north korean regulars within days; their only fighting experience up to that point was in bitchslapping jap women and girls as they were raping them on occupation duty. they spent the better part of the war bombing from 30,000 feet and lobbing artillery shells while the PLA and norks took the fight to them at a nose's length. the pattern of machine gunning civilians and raping little girls was carried over to full fledged doctrine in nam, where incompetent hillbilly trash, incapable of fighting a hardened guerilla force, spent most of their time running children over in their APCs and naping and raping the locals.
which carries us into grenada. 1500 special operations forces against some 90 elderly cuban security guards. panama was just grenada squared. and then we enter the 5-stage iraq war: there was the 90-91 campaign in kuwait, the air war from 91-03 (with a vicious embargo on top of it0, then the 03-04 campaign, followed by the 04-11 insurgency and now we have endgame, with isis handing america's ass on a platter. meanwhile the american footprint in afghanistan is a moonbase in kabul and very little else. and what did america leave behind? countries with as much depeleted uranium waste as nam's got agent orange, torture chambers at bagram and abu ghraib, and a generations of orphans and widows that will hate america and americans for eternity.
rev. jeremiah wright was right...god damn usKKKa
It's a good weekend for Americans to remember Hector Cafferata.
Of course they will first need to figure out who he is.
But you go ahead and sing the praises of Jeremiah Wright if you want to.
They can't be bothered to even look him up.
Harry Truman had to stand on top of Hector's new shoes in order to reach high enough to pin the Medal of Honor on him.
retired collecting bennies? or working for which .gov boot stomp agency fucking the taxpayer? come on, fess up.
You're so full of shit, I can smell your rank stench through my computer screen.
I'm sure that your lies go over quite well with Che-T-shirt-wearing flakka addicts you pal around with, but you really should walk away from the bath salts while you retain enough neurological stability to type.
I can see why Fidel Castrol's comment has outraged you, but your vile ad hominem attack is unwarranted. Although I am ignorant of Reverend Wright's opinions and intend to keep it that way, are you able to refute Fidel's other assertions?
Read the Wikipedia entry on the Korean War. Something that rarely gets mentioned is the American involvement and support of Singhman Ree's genocide against Southern Korean leftists.
Which lead to America's role in greenlighting the death of nearly a million Indonesian lefists. Peace Prize's mom worked for USAID to collect lists of PKI members for liquidation in part by Peace Prize's stepdad Soetero.
It must have been love at first sight. Obama has genocide in his veins. Sociopath
Phoenix program. pol Pot and over a million dead Bengalis because Nixon and Peace Prize Kissinger wanted to teach that cunt Gandhi to mind her manners
Half a million dead Iraqis were worth it
And on and on and on
Here you go... Fuck you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_l4Ab5FRwM
i wonder if all the indians massacred by the US cavalry, all the blacks kidnapped, enslaved and raped, and mexicans dispossessed of their land by jimmy polk believe that america is the shining city on a hill, the universal champion of freedumb
amerika mincing around the world preaching freedumb and human rights is like OJ offering marriage counseling
What a sad fate it must be to spend life struggling for conformity to the irrefutable dictates of the hive mind.
But you have a soul.
Freewill.
You are not obligated to think and believe what the mindless majority on the planet also thinks and believes.
It's not too late for you to throw off the stale orwellian overlords and dare to think for yourself.
C'mon. Just for a minute.
There's no one here who will tell on you.
"We must dare, and dare again, and go on daring..."
Isn't that how its done?
What you're expecting heuristics from a bunch of characters who never matured beyond the thought process of a sixth grader? All they see is those in charge of government (many of whom they voted for) and not the structures of government as they were intended to function and must be fought for in order to be recovered. If we don't it will be the entire world caught in the internicine warfare between "right" socialism and "left" socialism.
That's a very succinct observation and undoubtedly true.
But in the meantime, we'll just keep whacking those skinnys.
It's like joining the Mafia. You may never get to be a button man, but you're still part of a criminal enterprise.
How about that invasion on the Southern border. I'm not seeing much defense down there.
Heuristics indeed.
Porn of the worst type--the type that spreads the myth that American troops are fighting for freedom. The fact that it shows up on ZH shows how wide and deep and pervasive the myth is.
n-dimensional chess
It's the comments st......d
[no offense, I've made the same mistake]
Sure, gauges and profiles and we can assume we are not anonymous.
From your IP and device number they have you/us.
They know who you are. You know that they know. Now, they know you know that they know ... and what you think ... or ACTUALLY what you purport to think. They cannot necessarily assume that you think what you write. It might all be a false persona.
Who do you think is running ZH now? What bugs me is that the quality of editing has degraded. It seems that one in three articles on ZH now has at least one typo. To me, it implies that they are not especially concerned with the accuracy of the content as much as the reaction it gets.
I miss Marla and her rapier wit. Statist Tyler might have disappeared her for all we know. FWIW BoPeople, I agree with you. ZH was likely sold at its peak, and is now used as a Rorschach Test for gauging the level of disaffection of the awakened masses.
Yes, I remember Marla ... crazy, artistic, chick, persona... and maybe very real.
Do you remember a couple of years back when "Tyler" had to go away for a few days ... IMO, things started changing after that. There was something in his writing around that event that seemed concerned and fatalistic.
millions of non-americans murdered, tortured, raped and disappeared is a price that amerika is willing to pay for freedumb
freedumb isn't free ya know
We all know that the One World fanboys don't fear the US government. They don't fear the EU. They don't fear China. Or Russia. And they surely aren't afraid of you, their fellow traveller and subservient dogsbody.
Enjoy the next seven years.
What happens when their favorite came currency is flushed down the toilet of History? Can't fund what you don't have. What was worth 'x', will soon be worth 'y', count on it. It takes real money to run empires.
Wtf ZH? Whats with the boot-licking articles lately? First, most men and women in uniform are there because they couldn't get a job elsewhere. Second, those automatons are "bravely" defending my freedom in Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Syria, Yemen, Libya and a hundred other places?! No one in any of those places ever hurt me or my family. Fuck the brain dead robots who work for .gov and all the boot-licking cowards who suck their dicks every time they see a uniform.
Hey, war give those who have a pathological need to kill (aka psychopaths) jobs far, far away from the rest of us, so in that respect, war is a good thing.
The real psychopaths work for the media, the banks and the government.
I am sure a lot of good and innocent people work for those organizations as well ... except for possibly Goldman Sachs where they supposedly go through something like 24 interviews to ensure that you are in fact a sociopath or that you provide amply cover for sociopaths (but will never progress in the firm).
You are an ignorant fuck. I can assure you that the flag-draped coffin I waited for in the dark at Dover AFB 5 years ago did NOT contain some automaton who couldn't get a job somewhere else, or a brain dead robot. Let me also assure you (as he did me) that the people he killed there have every intention of hurting you and your family. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but that is their intention.
Sorry for your loss,
I would suggest to the ZH users in response to your post shouldn't be up or down voted.
"Compassion" understanding the pain of others!
And yes all could have jobs and should that would make it a better world?
But maybe we/you should ask the question "why? or for who?
The other question you may ask you self how would you feel if your little baby got killed from the over-blast of a drone strike from a foreign Drone in your home town in USA would you love the people that said sorry collateral damage!
Would you wish them well or just maybe go why did they come here and kill my babies what kind of god do they have to kill children ands just say sorry it your fault for living where you do.
A question some one put to me do your really think someone in a hut in a rice paddy in Vietnam really give a shit if you watch TV or not in USA?
And do you really think anyone that's never even seen a TV or knows who runs their country it a threat your Freedom or should be carpet bombed.
When their fields are cluster bombed and when we kill unarmed people how do we explain it to our God how is a good thing.
Look for the truth and Love in the world.
Go fist yourself. What I said is the absolute truth. I knew a young man who blew his face off with a shotgun after suffering PTSD for the gunning he did on top of a humvee. Tell me: was the kid's life i referred to more or less valuable than the literal millions who have been killed over the decades? Whoever you waited for at Dover is the same scenario. Imagine a drone strike or hellfire missile maiming millions more. Imagine telling an 11 year old boy who got his junk blown off he will never have a family, love a woman, see the birth of his child, etc. Keep sucking military dick, faggot.
You don't know shit. Top Of a humvee...my how "distant." I assure you there those who wish, nay, salivate, to kill you. I wish you well in your dipshitness.
I like teutonicate's take on the subject. you - for your personalization of it and vulgar insult - merit a hearty fuk you right back
Our troops are also on the German/ Czech border protecting us from? Hmm, so the Czech Republic is now part of NATO.......
WAR is a racket. It always has been.
It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.
A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.
In the World War [I] a mere handful garnered the profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new millionaires and billionaires were made in the United States during the World War. That many admitted their huge blood gains in their income tax returns. How many other war millionaires falsified their tax returns no one knows.
How many of these war millionaires shouldered a rifle? How many of them dug a trench? How many of them knew what it meant to go hungry in a rat-infested dug-out? How many of them spent sleepless, frightened nights, ducking shells and shrapnel and machine gun bullets? How many of them parried a bayonet thrust of an enemy? How many of them were wounded or killed in battle?
Out of war nations acquire additional territory, if they are victorious. They just take it. This newly acquired territory promptly is exploited by the few -- the selfsame few who wrung dollars out of blood in the war. The general public shoulders the bill.
And what is this bill?
This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and all its attendant miseries. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations.
For a great many years, as a soldier, I had a suspicion that war was a racket; not until I retired to civil life did I fully realize it. Now that I see the international war clouds gathering, as they are today, I must face it and speak out.
Major General Smedley Butler 1935
Please note that unlike many of the posts here - Butler doesn't hold the troops accountable for the racket more or less call them robots, idiots unemployable etc etc as is happening here
Tyler come on. After all of the articles you have put up showing the futility and stupidity of fighting unwinnable wars in the middle east which and ZERO to do with american freedom that is a stupid post.
Well, I know one thing and that is that we need to keep our cars running. I bought an Innova 3040 OBD2 code reader today and that thing is pretty sweet as I own five cars right now. I fixed on the two that needed attention but you need to reset the codes that the computer stores and now I can do that without disconnecting the negative battery terminal for ten minutes. It is a nice tool to have. All five start, run and drive.
So are you saying that we fight wars so that you can own software built in china to service cars built in Mehiko to drive on gas built in Saudi desert resulting in profit for some suit on WS?
No soldier ever fought for my freedom, but I'll give my sympathy to those who foolishly believed they were.
No country threatens to take over the US and take away its freedoms. No terrorist cell can ever "take over" a US town, let alone a city. The only one taking away freedoms is the US government, intelligence agencies, secret services and military. The soldiers are just scapegoats and props, who often don't realize how they're being used by the militarized oligarchy state.
Celebrate the Imperial soldiers.
Bankers and corporate CEOs are like soldiers. In a better world they won't be needed.
You want to know about freedom? I'll tell you about freedom.
I'm writing a short article for a civics class this week about diversity. As I went through the articles that the professor posted to write about I had a strange feeling come over me. Somehow I felt I was in the Twilight Zone episode "It's a Good Life." The one where Anthony wishes everyone, that he gets pissed at, into the cornfield. On one of the sites the articles were posted at, (that articles that I have to write on) I noticed lots of globalist links to CBS NPR Buzzfeed and the like. That is when it hit me. These amoral corporations that are funding diversity projects, the economic interlinking organizations, are like Anthony, and they are cultivating humans for harvest. Any people that get in their way are sent to the cornfield. Of course I can't write about what is really taking place other than to point out where the funding is coming from. It is a matter of saying what I can without having the professor wish q99x2 into the cornfield. Freedom, what do you mean by that? The problem with the human language seems to me, now that I've studied it for 3 years, is that it leads one to understand that the image created by diction is more important than meanings derived from words, and that image is illusary. Whenever you look into the meaning transferred by the words you always arrive looking into the abyss; You arrive at that glitch in the matrix every fucking time. In the case of the word diversity I see corporate fascism and the most dangerous force on this planet.
If you're in school right now, by all accounts you're in the eye of the cesspool. We're in the midst of some kind of weird neo-fascist movement that's making all the worst interpretations of the last 100 years come true, all at once. A real, "The beatings will continue until morale improves" kind of thang. Good luck.
I once had a choice - go to Vietnam or go to jail. I wish I had gone to jail. Anyone thanking me for my service is a brain dead, moronic automaton. My advice on Memorial Day - stay the fuck away from the military - you never see pictures of severely injured soldiers at the recruiting office and most people have no idea what high explosives and high velocity projectiles can do to the human body...
In hindsight I should have gone to Canada, Canada doesn't work anymore (Canada seems to have sold out to the kill pill also..see link below ##aa)
About the only thing I can think of to tell a higher power is "I WAS DRAFTED AND I WAS ORDERED"
Pretty lame excuse for crimes against humanity.
Question: What did Vietnam have to do with freedom?
Early on I could see calling someone a gook didn't make it ok to kill what looked to be a unarmed group of humans.
They the ones that had more rank... no more brains but more rank would tell us.
Its OK kill them they may look unarmed but they are going to sneak up on us later and they are just hiding the Vietcong from us so we need to kill everything and everyone they are evil enemy sympathizer at best.
And being young and dumb they would follow up with "If you don't kill them they may kill your buddy's latter so do you want to be responsible for killing G.I.s?"
Older and wiser now the question one should ask as a human is "What are you doing If you think you need to kill unarmed people defending there home from you in there country not your country?"
In hindsight I should have gone to Canada, Canada doesn't work anymore (Canada seems to have sold out also..see link below ##aa)
##aa http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/02/american-military-deserters...
Military is for country defense, nothing else. But they become the puppet letting the politicians, bankers, and big corporations to do the irreversible damage to other countries for their personal gain. They sing the song of 'democracy' BS. I amaze not many soldiers have wakened up and still supporting the oligarchs.
First light here in Washington DC, and the roar of the Rolling Thunder bikers already plainly heard as they pass by on way to Capitol Mall 2 miles yonder. That is real.
The boob Obama will flap his lips Monday at Arlington National Cemetery. That is not real.
If the military people just defend, they're welcome. But if the get 10 000 km away from home and it's claimed they fight for freedom, it's just a plain and simple lie.
Replied with no comment
Five Finger Death Punch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_l4Ab5FRwM
Some music to read no comment.
If some dumb fucking kid wants to go to some God foresaken rat hole of a country half way around the world and get his head blown off or his legs blown off, why the hell should I care? Please don't tell me it's to "keep America free", or it's to "protect Americans from terrorism" because that's BULLSHIT. If anything, it's just the opposite.
So many people have made personal sacrifices for what they believed in, that it is tempting not to challenge what they believed in because of their sacrifice.
We should admire people who have such strength in their convictions that they are prepared to die for them.
However, it is our duty to make sure that those convictions are well-founded so that their sacrifice is not wasted.
I think a lot of the responses to this post are rightfully focused on "what constitutes a well-founded conviction?".
I don’t want to blame the victim again. There is a group of elitists at work in our country and throughout the world that honestly thinks that they alone have the right to decide this issue to further their interests.
If there is hope for this world, it is that we are beginning to figure out who they are.
Sorry, I don't understand what the drawing is supposed to imply.
The key was the "Presented with no comment".
It was meant to prompt discussion and analysis.
Ah, then for me it failed... thank you for clarifying.
Hmmm...I don't think the Tyler's put this up to approve/condone/agree/support the "obvious" thrust of the cartoon.
After all, look who pulished the cartoon. Invest in 'Merica defense (contractors) for the kids.
It is in fact the "obvious" attempt to pull at gullible heartstrings when most of us here know - or should know by now - the ways and means of the Goebbels practitioners.
Found this site 5 years ago when it was a good place to get market insight and knowledge from seasoned pros. Seems like many posts these days are just click bait and the commentary often devolves into an outlet for individual prejudices and bitterness. More divide and conquer. More powerless anger. Always one group against another. Why buy into that shit?
You can interpret this in many ways. I'd like to think that that soldier once was an innocent boy with perhaps dreams of being a soldier. That soldier is about to disappear into the void and taking that childhood boy that he once was with him.
Young men are easy to be fooled into thinking that war is a noble thing.
Leftists get a special thrill .... shitting on our Memorial Day rememberances .... but, they fanatically support the troops .... of their beloved socialist dictators .... goose stepping retards !
World Selective Policemen.
No US drilling leases to protect in Tibet. None in Cambodia. Rawanda? Nope. Dafur? Same.
Sorry folks, no freedoms for you.
Milosevic was happily killing Christians and Muslims alike in Bos-Hertz without a World Police problem until he started cleaning out Kosevo.
This cop on the beat seems to have a particular clientele list.
OT but since we are celebrating the sacred...
IRELAND GOES GAY.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AP_EU_IRELAND_GAY_MARRIAGE?SITE=A...
Lucky Charms... with fruity leprechauns.
Oh Danny Boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling...
Ireland...Going down the shitter, but celebrating the reverse.
Not really. Irish society was tightly controlled by the RC church until very recently. Much of vote was an F U to that establishment. Ireland has a very live and let live attitude as a result. The vote was not so much an endorsement of the lifestyle as it was a 'none of my business' expression. Unless you're a fan of Controls by gov't or Church - What's The problem?
Not quite. Now it's fashionable to be a faggot the fags no longer need the Roman Church as a haunt. Ireland's chattering classes have figured out there are better excuses for being a Jew-hating, Anglophobic faggot with a taste for German cock and German money than being a Holy Roman Catlick.
So the last pretenses of Christianity, or what most of my people believe Christianity to be, are being systematically dispensed with now they are no longer useful to the master class. (Most of Ireland's actual Christians, i.e. Protestants, had fled the Free State in the 1920's.)
Sounds like you have some dark issues and need help -good luck
Take heart. My people's habit of backing the wrong horse---proud supporters of Napoleon, Hitler and the Fakestinians---suggests that the Irish Free State's vote for gay marriage, dispensing with the pretense of Christian morality, is a sign of Peak Faggotry.
In Ulster, from whose people most Irish-Americans (or rather "Scots-Irish") are actually descended, faggots are still not able to get married, and the right of the unborn to life is still respected. If Ulstermen have any say about it, that's how matters will remain.
God save Ulster, and God damn the Irish Free State.
"My people's"....what an arrogant arse
Right to life - since when does ROI not protect that?
Ulster doesn't have anything to say about it and good luck
As far as damming the Free State - you really need to get over yourself and move on.
Whats wrong with supporting Napoleon, you feudalistic serf parrot? If you don't know what napoleonic code is, take a read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_Code
Now you understand why the royals wanted him dead in the first place. Ireland. A land of troglodytes whipped by catholic church into submission.
Ramirez .... love your cartoons .... and your patriotism !
The last Americans in uniform to die for freedom were the men of the Confederate army. Confederate Memorial Day was last month (April 26).
I hope the banksters and their pals in gubmint enjoy their day off on Monday, given all the blood they've spilt to make the world safe for banksterism.
The freedom to select tyranny. That confederate flag would fly well over democratically elected muslim thugs.
We were told we had to remove Saddam because he was an evil dictator who killed his own people.
We were told we had to remove Ghadaffi because he was an evil dictator who killed his own people.
We're being told we have to remove Bashar Al-Assad because he is an evil dictator who kills his own people.
Ironically, the only real psychopathic tyrant who killed a million of his own people that Americans have fought against was Abraham Lincoln, and we lost.
On point talk by Ron Paul: How we became a nation of wimps
http://thecrux.com/ron-paul-how-america-became-a-nation-of-wimps/
I see it differently...
The kid has EARS like the current plesident lol
Military escortz yo
The blind leading the blind?
Hmmm...what happened to the soldiers LEGS? military reshuffling or CUTS?
. . .so generations of Americans lead the next into another war which has nothing to do with freedom. Come, young man. Take my hand and believe the lie. Such is the fate of a stupid and evil race.
Freedom is the tool of the devil, just look up the definition...something apparently no one bothers to ever use when it comes to that particular word in any generation. Liberty is the closest we ever get and those are diminishing as fast as we have turned our backs on the One who gave us those liberties, Jesus the Christ, the Son of the living God...our Creator!
I love the vets. My father was a WWII vet, and though he never saw combat again, he was on one of the ships sunk by the Japanese at Pearl Harbor. That said, I think it would be accurate to say that the vets THOUGHT they were fighting for our freedom. In fact, during wartime, taxes and regulations are introduced that are not eliminated after the war, meaning the opposite is more accurate.
Freedom ain't free. Yeah, about $5B a coup.
It is possible to honor those who have paid the ultimate price without agreeing with the folly that sent them there. Come on folks, find a different thread for your cheap rants that are repeated a million times over.
I wish the US Army would have recruiting posters that told the truth. In the Foreign Legion, they tell you up front that they offer only pain, hardship, and death. Ours ought to do the same.
Heard a rah-rah Navy commercial yesterday. "Build hospitals in far away countries for sick kids and learn to fly drones".
Come join the US Armed forces, we will pay you low wages and you will fight for very wealthy people and help destroy your future and your children's future and don't forget, we are giving away free Iphones for any new recruit.
For shame, ZH.
the price of freedom is slogging through millions of dumbasses who would rather be slaves than real free men and women, having to deal with the path created by the bottom half of the class because the inertia created by the herd can't be avoided by even the freeest minds. the only path to freedom today is as a ronin warrior, the solitary man, totally self sufficient in mind and body, the rugged individual.....where have i heard that before, rugged individual?
that is the ideal, isn't it? if you want it back you have to take it. will you pay the price?
Today's war is being fought for control of the mind.
The European socialist chorus all sing about the evils of America.
The Red Choir of Russia and China harmonize about how evil America is.
The entrenched apparatchiks in Washington, the carefully selected mouthpieces of the media, the jealous guardians of popular culture all sing about the evils of America.
America is guilty, they say. America must atone. America must pay. America must submit itself to their vile prescriptions if it ever wants to be healed. America must, in short, become indistinguishable from them.
It's a ceaseless intellectual barrage of die grosse Lugen (the Big Lie) and it gradually has an effect on even the most steadfast and intelligent souls.
Even those who are not buying the remedy they are selling have nevertheless allowed themselves to be convinced that the premise they offer is a correct one.
America is not evil. The men and women who are deliberately misdirecting its energies are evil. Their collectivist philosophy is the antithesis of everything that America stands for. So long as they reign in the corridors of power, culture, education, and information, the mask of evil will continue to be projected over the face of a good and generous nation.
Abandoning the cause of America because they have convinced you that it is more evil even than the ones you know are malignant warms the cockles of their stony hearts. America is the only force on earth which they truly fear. It is the only power which stands in the way of full realization of their nightmarish dream of a return to the darkness of humanity in bondage to its ruling class. As it once was, so do they desire it to be again.
Join forces with the people you hate, with the people who ceaselessly delude you, and bring America down. Flatter yourself into thinking that you are not doing the work of those you despise.
But the monstrous conspiracy which they call their cause will fail. So it is written.
Define evil, if you can. While you are at it; define "time" or define "life"; you cannot, the best is to describe what it looks like. Something to think deeply on it when you have the "time".
Freedom is just another word for 'Nothing left to lose....
Austerity means freedom from excessive consumerism and debt-slavery.
real freedom only ever excists in ones imagination...or thoughts.
WR;)
Freedom: the power & authority to act, speak or think without externally imposed restraints OR "Immunity from an obligation or duty"
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Not one person has ever had real FREEDOM, it is the grandest of illusions that delusional and unthinking people hold onto out of sheer ignorance or stupidity. We have only limited choices that are becoming more limited and that is referred to, rightly, as liberty. If people would only learn to use a dictionary, then they would understand that ALL are born enslaved in this world. The Scripture and Jesus, Himself, told all of us that we are "slaves" to either Him or the world with Satan as the head of worldly household. The question is what family are YOU in?
I have that freedom, but I don't have riches, and people who know me think I'm nuts. True story. :)
I want to thank my Father. He came ashore D Day + 6. In a Sherman tank all the way to the Rein. He had to bail out of two before he got there.
Salute.
The cartoon spelled imperialism wrong.
Yeah, militarism... the price of freedom, right...
We can never really find freedom, by enslaving, killing or imprisoning others.
and that is exactly what military conflict does and America spends about 600 billion a year,
not to fight for freedom, but to enslave, kill and steal from those, it sees as inferior human beings.
Americans have become totalitarian fascist dictators and in their paranoia and "war on terror" -
which is creating a self-fullfilling prophecy of ultimate terror as we now see with ISIS,
so, in a way Americas war-mongering policies have brought us to a new dark age...
just look back in history...Vietnam...and on and on....
the price of freedom for America is NSA and Abu Graib and millions dead in continuous wars.
Bin Laden must be a Saint by now.
WR;)
It is important to know that Tyler Durden does not really exist,
except as a fictional caracter from the fight club fiction fantasy genre.
that caracter was pretty fucked up, and thought it useful to bash himself and his mindless doormats senseless,
in some idiotical and suicidal game, to blow his brains out....
and yes, there have been changes on ZH....
surprised ?
not really.
WR;)
The price of freedom is eternal vigilence, you fucking halfwit.
Never forget the price of getting your legs and balls blown off for an imbecile like GWB and Dick &Co., (who really wouldn't seriously ever be your friend anyway) to install a full on terrorist organizationworse than anything Bin Laden could have dreamed of in Iraq, Syria...etc....
And oh yeah, family friends of the Bush Family.
Fuck you to Carl Rove and Wolfowitz too,, you god dam murderers.
Iraq was not, was obviously not for oil. You dont spend 3 trillion to give the Chinese cheap oil while they and the Russians continue the attack on the FRN.
Many repeat this "its all about the petrodollar" line but apparently have never looked at the numbers.
If you wanted Iraq to sell oil only in dollars, there were far, far more expedient ways - it is ABSURD to think we spent all that time, money and energy to make sure Iraq sold its oil in dollars.
It simply isnt true when you look around the decision makers below Bush the puppet and Cheney the admitted war profiteer no bid king.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2004/01/lie-factory
This next one may not be working - which means that it is under attack - which means it has been working:
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...
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http://how911wasdone.blogspot.com/
If you are a fucking halfwit, eternal vigilance won't help either.
you sit there losing sleep being vigilant and you piss a lot of people off,
acting like a moron on PTSD.
next thing you end up with a hole in the head.
Its much better being nice to people, make love and not war and make lots of friends around the world,
have a nice life and die peacefully of natural causes...
but each to his own...
eternal vigilance is bullshit NSA thinking....
who is the real enemy ?
when is a defence really an offence ?
what is real and what is fantasy and bullshit ?
these are the questions people should ask themselves.
the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Ignorance and stupidity is the real enemy.
A soldier should not act like a robot, or drone!
War should not be some kind of remote control game!
most soldiers throughout history have been mercinary killers...
outsourced and hired killers.
WR;)
I owe much to my father, who joined the Army in Dec 1941. He fought in North Africa, Italy and Normandy. He fought Nazis. A task worth doing. After that, all our wars have been Deep State Looting Adventures. Iraq was the worst, the lowest, biggest lie, looting adventure ever.
What do you think preceded World War II? The same things you described after you talked about your father. How was the US brought into World War II...just pointing out the facts. Just because one fought against the "Nazi's" does not make it right or wrong; we now live in a country full of them as a result of World War II. It was also that generation that failed to keep the moral values of this nation intact by teaching it to the next generation and it is the "Great Moral Failures", the turning away from Biblical ethics, that we find ourselves against our Creator and are and will continue to suffer the consequences as all nations before U.S. have. We are past the point of no return...."teach me your ways LORD, that I may live by Your truth".----------------------------------------------------
I am not putting you father down, I never knew him; I am just pointing out that the so-called "Greatest Generation" is that generation that failed to impart godly principals for future generations.
What about these kids and people:
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=70368
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
what the fuck does US military action have to do with our freedom?
I say that both as a vet and a student of history.
Even World War 2, prior to goading the Japs into an attack, was not America's fight [spare me the death camps which no one seems to have heard of until well after the war, and no one seemed to give a shit about massacres in Cambodia or Sudan or Congo].
But nothing since has been anything to do with Freedom.
What kind of fox news wearing cunt could come up with this shit now?
Most officers by now would groan at this shit.
here you go, ff
http://how911wasdone.blogspot.com/
Many of the comments I read on ZH today make me feel the same way as I did after Vietnam. When I came back to my home town in uniform I was spit at and jeered after that war. I was proud to wear that uniform and serve my country. Those like me who served, those that died or were wounded did it for love of country.
Too many confuse the cartoons message. As a Mark Twain said “I love my country ALWAYS and my government when they deserve it.” We are honoring those that loved their country especially those that made the ultimate sacrifice. Please honor their memory…
Dear RabbitOne,
I have often read that the "spitting on veterans" was a myth. Care to expand on your experiences?
"spit at and jeered".
Karl Rove's Young Repubicans dressed as hippies using dirty tricks to discredit the war protesters. I was a war protester and crossed the country doing it for several years. NO ONE I ever met blamed ANY soldier. Several of my high school friends were drafted as were everyone else's who protested.
Exactly who were you servingor do you even know? Did you go to fight based on Constitutional principles or fighting for the globalist, the very ones who would and are and have destroy you, your family and your nation that you no longer recoginize?
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I am not against you, for I do not know you, but I know we are related as we are all related. I am sorry that people would spit or "jeer" on you or any other person returning from the horrors of any war. At the same time, you must come to the reality of who you actually fought for; just as those who are now fighting in so many countries....we are making eneimes we never had before. God bless you and I mean that from the heart!!