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The Original Chechnya Bombers - The CIA, The Saudis And Bin Laden

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Authored by F. William Engdahl via New Eastern Outlook,

What if Putin is Telling The Truth?

On April 26 Russia’s main national TV station, Rossiya 1, featured President Vladimir Putin in a documentary to the Russian people on the events of the recent period including the annexation of Crimea, the US coup d’etat in Ukraine, and the general state of relations with the United States and the EU. His words were frank. And in the middle of his remarks the Russian former KGB chief dropped a political bombshell that was known by Russian intelligence two decades ago.

Putin stated bluntly that in his view the West would only be content in having a Russia weak, suffering and begging from the West, something clearly the Russian character is not disposed to. Then a short way into his remarks, the Russian President stated for the first time publicly something that Russian intelligence has known for almost two decades but kept silent until now, most probably in hopes of an era of better normalized Russia-US relations.

Putin stated that the terror in Chechnya and in the Russian Caucasus in the early 1990’s was actively backed by the CIA and western Intelligence services to deliberately weaken Russia. He noted that the Russian FSB foreign intelligence had documentation of the US covert role without giving details.

What Putin, an intelligence professional of the highest order, only hinted at in his remarks, I have documented in detail from non-Russian sources. The report has enormous implications to reveal to the world the long-standing hidden agenda of influential circles in Washington to destroy Russia as a functioning sovereign state, an agenda which includes the neo-nazi coup d’etat in Ukraine and severe financial sanction warfare against Moscow. The following is drawn on my book, “The Lost Hegemon” to be published soon…

CIA’s Chechen Wars

Not long after the CIA and Saudi Intelligence-financed Mujahideen had devastated Afghanistan at the end of the 1980’s, forcing the exit of the Soviet Army in 1989, and the dissolution of the Soviet Union itself some months later, the CIA began to look at possible places in the collapsing Soviet Union where their trained “Afghan Arabs” could be redeployed to further destabilize Russian influence over the post-Soviet Eurasian space.

They were called Afghan Arabs because they had been recruited from ultraconservative Wahhabite Sunni Muslims from Saudi Arabia, the Arab Emirates, Kuwait, and elsewhere in the Arab world where the ultra-strict Wahhabite Islam was practiced. They were brought to Afghanistan in the early 1980’s by a Saudi CIA recruit who had been sent to Afghanistan named Osama bin Laden.

With the former Soviet Union in total chaos and disarray, George H.W. Bush’s Administration decided to “kick ‘em when they’re down,” a sad error. Washington redeployed their Afghan veteran terrorists to bring chaos and destabilize all of Central Asia, even into the Russian Federation itself, then in a deep and traumatic crisis during the economic collapse of the Yeltsin era.

In the early 1990s, Dick Cheney’s company, Halliburton, had surveyed the offshore oil potentials of Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and the entire Caspian Sea Basin. They estimated the region to be “another Saudi Arabia” worth several trillion dollars on today’s market. The US and UK were determined to keep that oil bonanza from Russian control by all means. The first target of Washington was to stage a coup in Azerbaijan against elected president Abulfaz Elchibey to install a President more friendly to a US-controlled Baku–Tbilisi–Ceyhan (BTC) oil pipeline, “the world’s most political pipeline,” bringing Baku oil from Azerbaijan through Georgia to Turkey and the Mediterranean.

At that time, the only existing oil pipeline from Baku was a Soviet era Russian pipeline that ran through the Chechen capital, Grozny, taking Baku oil north via Russia’s Dagestan province, and across Chechenya to the Black Sea Russian port of Novorossiysk. The pipeline was the only competition and major obstacle to the very costly alternative route of Washington and the British and US oil majors.

President Bush Sr. gave his old friends at CIA the mandate to destroy that Russian Chechen pipeline and create such chaos in the Caucasus that no Western or Russian company would consider using the Grozny Russian oil pipeline.

Graham E. Fuller, an old colleague of Bush and former Deputy Director of the CIA National Council on Intelligence had been a key architect of the CIA Mujahideen strategy. Fuller described the CIA strategy in the Caucasus in the early 1990s: “The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan against the Red Army. The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power.”6

The CIA used a dirty tricks veteran, General Richard Secord, for the operation. Secord created a CIA front company, MEGA Oil. Secord had been convicted in the 1980s for his central role in the CIA’s Iran-Contra illegal arms and drugs operations.

In 1991 Secord, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, landed in Baku and set up the CIA front company, MEGA Oil. He was a veteran of the CIA covert opium operations in Laos during the Vietnam War. In Azerbaijan, he setup an airline to secretly fly hundreds of bin Laden’s al-Qaeda Mujahideen from Afghanistan into Azerbaijan. By 1993, MEGA Oil had recruited and armed 2,000 Mujahideen, converting Baku into a base for Caucasus-wide Mujahideen terrorist operations.

General Secord’s covert Mujahideen operation in the Caucasus initiated the military coup that toppled elected president Abulfaz Elchibey that year and installed Heydar Aliyev, a more pliable US puppet. A secret Turkish intelligence report leaked to the Sunday Times of London confirmed that “two petrol giants, BP and Amoco, British and American respectively, which together form the AIOC (Azerbaijan International Oil Consortium), are behind the coup d’état.”

Saudi Intelligence head, Turki al-Faisal, arranged that his agent, Osama bin Laden, whom he had sent to Afghanistan at the start of the Afghan war in the early 1980s, would use his Afghan organization Maktab al-Khidamat (MAK) to recruit “Afghan Arabs” for what was rapidly becoming a global Jihad. Bin Laden’s mercenaries were used as shock troops by the Pentagon and CIA to coordinate and support Muslim offensives not only Azerbaijan but also in Chechnya and, later, Bosnia.

Bin Laden brought in another Saudi, Ibn al-Khattab, to become Commander, or Emir of Jihadist Mujahideen in Chechnya (sic!) together with Chechen warlord Shamil Basayev. No matter that Ibn al-Khattab was a Saudi Arab who spoke barely a word of Chechen, let alone, Russian. He knew what Russian soldiers looked like and how to kill them.

Chechnya then was traditionally a predominantly Sufi society, a mild apolitical branch of Islam. Yet the increasing infiltration of the well-financed and well-trained US-sponsored Mujahideen terrorists preaching Jihad or Holy War against Russians transformed the initially reformist Chechen resistance movement. They spread al-Qaeda’s hardline Islamist ideology across the Caucasus. Under Secord’s guidance, Mujahideen terrorist operations had also quickly extended into neighboring Dagestan and Chechnya, turning Baku into a shipping point for Afghan heroin to the Chechen mafia.

From the mid-1990s, bin Laden paid Chechen guerrilla leaders Shamil Basayev and Omar ibn al-Khattab the handsome sum of several million dollars per month, a King’s fortune in economically desolate Chechnya in the 1990s, enabling them to sideline the moderate Chechen majority.21 US intelligence remained deeply involved in the Chechen conflict until the end of the 1990s. According to Yossef Bodansky, then Director of the US Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, Washington was actively involved in “yet another anti-Russian jihad, seeking to support and empower the most virulent anti-Western Islamist forces.”

Bodansky revealed the entire CIA Caucasus strategy in detail in his report, stating that US Government officials participated in,

“a formal meeting in Azerbaijan in December 1999 in which specific programs for the training and equipping of Mujahideen from the Caucasus, Central/South Asia and the Arab world were discussed and agreed upon, culminating in Washington’s tacit encouragement of both Muslim allies (mainly Turkey, Jordan and Saudi Arabia) and US ‘private security companies’. . . to assist the Chechens and their Islamist allies to surge in the spring of 2000 and sustain the ensuing Jihad for a long time…Islamist Jihad in the Caucasus as a way to deprive Russia of a viable pipeline route through spiraling violence and terrorism.”

The most intense phase of the Chechen wars wound down in 2000 only after heavy Russian military action defeated the Islamists. It was a pyrrhic victory, costing a massive toll in human life and destruction of entire cities. The exact death toll from the CIA-instigated Chechen conflict is unknown. Unofficial estimates ranged from 25,000 to 50,000 dead or missing, mostly civilians. Russian casualties were near 11,000 according to the Committee of Soldiers’ Mothers.

The Anglo-American oil majors and the CIA’s operatives were happy. They had what they wanted: their Baku–Tbilisi–Ceyhan oil pipeline, bypassing Russia’s Grozny pipeline.

The Chechen Jihadists, under the Islamic command of Shamil Basayev, continued guerrilla attacks in and outside Chechnya. The CIA had refocused into the Caucasus.

Basayev’s Saudi Connection

Basayev was a key part of the CIA’s Global Jihad. In 1992, he met Saudi terrorist Ibn al-Khattag in Azerbaijan. From Azerbaijan, Ibn al-Khattab brought Basayev to Afghanistan to meet al-Khattab’s ally, fellow-Saudi Osama bin Laden. Ibn al-Khattab’s role was to recruit Chechen Muslims willing to wage Jihad against Russian forces in Chechnya on behalf of the covert CIA strategy of destabilizing post-Soviet Russia and securing British-US control over Caspian energy.

Once back in Chechnya, Basayev and al-Khattab created the International Islamic Brigade (IIB) with Saudi Intelligence money, approved by the CIA and coordinated through the liaison of Saudi Washington Ambassador and Bush family intimate Prince Bandar bin Sultan. Bandar, Saudi Washington Ambassador for more than two decades, was so intimate with the Bush family that George W. Bush referred to the playboy Saudi Ambassador as “Bandar Bush,” a kind of honorary family member.

Basayev and al-Khattab imported fighters from the Saudi fanatical Wahhabite strain of Sunni Islam into Chechnya. Ibn al-Khattab commanded what were called the “Arab Mujahideen in Chechnya,” his own private army of Arabs, Turks, and other foreign fighters. He was also commissioned to set up paramilitary training camps in the Caucasus Mountains of Chechnya that trained Chechens and Muslims from the North Caucasian Russian republics and from Central Asia.

The Saudi and CIA-financed Islamic International Brigade was responsible not only for terror in Chechnya. They carried out the October 2002 Moscow Dubrovka Theatre hostage seizure and the gruesome September 2004 Beslan school massacre. In 2010, the UN Security Council published the following report on al-Khattab and Basayev’s International Islamic Brigade:

Islamic International Brigade (IIB) was listed on 4 March 2003. . . as being associated with Al-Qaida, Usama bin Laden or the Taliban for “participating in the financing, planning, facilitating, preparing or perpetrating of acts or activities by, in conjunction with, under the name of, on behalf or in support of” Al-Qaida. . . The Islamic International Brigade (IIB) was founded and led by Shamil Salmanovich Basayev (deceased) and is linked to the Riyadus-Salikhin Reconnaissance and Sabotage Battalion of Chechen Martyrs (RSRSBCM). . . and the Special Purpose Islamic Regiment (SPIR). . .

 

On the evening of 23 October 2002, members of IIB, RSRSBCM and SPIR operated jointly to seize over 800 hostages at Moscow’s Podshipnikov Zavod (Dubrovka) Theater.

 

In October 1999, emissaries of Basayev and Al-Khattab traveled to Usama bin Laden’s home base in the Afghan province of Kandahar, where Bin Laden agreed to provide substantial military assistance and financial aid, including by making arrangements to send to Chechnya several hundred fighters to fight against Russian troops and perpetrate acts of terrorism. Later that year, Bin Laden sent substantial amounts of money to Basayev, Movsar Barayev (leader of SPIR) and Al-Khattab, which was to be used exclusively for training gunmen, recruiting mercenaries and buying ammunition.

The Afghan-Caucasus Al Qaeda “terrorist railway,” financed by Saudi intelligence, had two goals. One was a Saudi goal to spread fanatical Wahhabite Jihad into the Central Asian region of the former Soviet Union. The second was the CIA’s agenda of destabilizing a then-collapsing post-Soviet Russian Federation.

Beslan

On September 1, 2004, armed terrorists from Basayev and al-Khattab’s IIB took more than 1,100 people as hostages in a siege that included 777 children, and forced them into School Number One (SNO) in Beslan in North Ossetia, the autonomous republic in the North Caucasus of the Russian Federation near to the Georgia border.

On the third day of the hostage crisis, as explosions were heard inside the school, FSB and other elite Russian troops stormed the building. In the end, at least 334 hostages were killed, including 186 children, with a significant number of people injured and reported missing. It became clear afterward that the Russian forces had handled the intervention poorly.

The Washington propaganda machine, from Radio Free Europe to The New York Times and CNN, wasted no time demonizing Putin and Russia for their bad handling of the Beslan crisis rather than focus on the links of Basayev to Al Qaeda and Saudi intelligence. That would have brought the world’s attention to the intimate relations between the family of then US President George W. Bush and the Saudi billionaire bin Laden family.

On September 1, 2001, just ten days before the day of the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks, Saudi Intelligence head US-educated Prince Turki bin Faisal Al Saud, who had directed Saudi Intelligence since 1977, including through the entire Osama bin Laden Mujahideen operation in Afghanistan and into the Caucasus, abruptly and inexplicably resigned, just days after having accepted a new term as intelligence head from his King. He gave no explanation. He was quickly reposted to London, away from Washington.

The record of the bin Laden-Bush family intimate ties was buried, in fact entirely deleted on “national security” (sic!) grounds in the official US Commission Report on 911. The Saudi background of fourteen of the nineteen alleged 911 terrorists in New York and Washington was also deleted from the US Government’s final 911 Commission report, released only in July 2004 by the Bush Administration, almost three years after the events.

Basayev claimed credit for having sent the terrorists to Beslan. His demands had included the complete independence of Chechnya from Russia, something that would have given Washington and the Pentagon an enormous strategic dagger in the southern underbelly of the Russian Federation.

By late 2004, in the aftermath of the tragic Beslan drama, President Vladimir Putin reportedly ordered a secret search and destroy mission by Russian intelligence to hunt and kill key leaders of the Caucasus Mujahideen of Basayev. Al-Khattab had been killed in 2002. The Russian security forces soon discovered that most of the Chechen Afghan Arab terrorists had fled. They had gotten safe haven in Turkey, a NATO member; in Azerbaijan, by then almost a NATO Member; or in Germany, a NATO Member; or in Dubai–one of the closest US Allies in the Arab States, and Qatar-another very close US ally. In other words, the Chechen terrorists were given NATO safe haven.

 

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Sat, 05/23/2015 - 22:39 | 6125955 dcohen
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His real name was William the Bastard, son of domesticated vikings.

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 22:53 | 6125991 Cityzerosix
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Here, in Hastings, England; the Battle has not yet ended.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 00:09 | 6126119 Oh regional Indian
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What a fascinating read. Makes sense...

Money really makes people mad, mooney!

Mooooooney, anything for moooooney!

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 04:16 | 6126318 jeff montanye
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l.t.: anglo saxons once held hong kong (and controlled china) as well as south africa and kenya and india.  also all of ireland and egypt. ditto palestine.  you can't really call them anglo saxons can you?

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 08:05 | 6126457 CH1
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Gangsters telling the truth about gangsters.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 09:48 | 6126581 Panopticon 131
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Too many forgot or never learn history and fewer can extrapolate what we learned from Antony Sutton and other researchers.  

The apex globalists are masters of N-dimensional chess, good cop vs. bad cop on the domestic and international stages. 

Think of it as Orwell's superstates meme, engineered and contrived conflicts between faux rivals to divide and conquer humanity.  

Meanwhile you are being fleeced and locked in to a prison planet.  Don't look here, look there!

Will you fall for it?  Pink Floyd, Us and Them.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 10:29 | 6126656 Latina Lover
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I agree with most of your commentary, but do not always make the assumption that the global elites are united. The vast majority are psychopaths who would not hesitate to kill rivals and enemies.  Imagine a jar filled with spiders and scorpions and you may get the idea.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 11:49 | 6126848 Joe Trader
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I'd like to see this guy's sources - because this whole article is said to be based on his soon to be released book - which doesn't tell us much.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 16:17 | 6127469 SpiOpsChiwowwow
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Oh man I luv these CIA guys! Can anyone tell me, are they 'Duel-Passport holders"? You know. Do they celebrate passover?

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 19:39 | 6127965 Greyhat
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No. These guys were "fighting", known as the "new oligarchs", on the financial front! :)

 

Mon, 05/25/2015 - 17:26 | 6130605 unicorn
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@ joe

in his previous books you could track everything he writes.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 08:33 | 6126493 Oh regional Indian
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The sequence set continues for anyone intereasted, Cajon, twist...

Sequence 22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xtJApsB4cA

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 23:04 | 6126024 TheReplacement
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Not only that but he didn't defeat an strictly anglic blooded king, he defeated a norse blooded king.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 09:54 | 6126590 shovelhead
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Domesticated Vikings (Normans) against lesser domesticated Danish Vikings (Harold & Co.).

Then it was Norman cowboys against Anglo-Saxon indians getting put on the rez.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 13:35 | 6127085 Deus Irate
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Folks can keep their white, neanderthal ancestry. I'll stick with the more evolved and BROWN Homo Sapien line. Hitler and his Viking (aka Neanderthal) predecessors were all part of a failed and inferior evolutionary "dead-end". So go ahead, die off then. See if I care. Just stop trying to take so many with you. Just go already.

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 22:38 | 6125956 macholatte
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With the former Soviet Union in total chaos and disarray, George H.W. Bush’s Administration decided to “kick ‘em when they’re down,” a sad error. Washington redeployed their Afghan veteran terrorists to bring chaos and destabilize all of Central Asia, even into the Russian Federation itself, then in a deep and traumatic crisis during the economic collapse of the Yeltsin era.

 

Sum Ting Wong

 After 1991 Gorbachev was gone and so was the Soviet Union. Then came Yeltsin (1991-1996) and then Putin.  The West had ample opportunity to “destroy” Russia under Yeltsin but didn’t. Instead it helped to rebuild it and created many of the Ruskie billionaires of today.

So why would there be covert operations to destabilize Russia during that period of time, it was imploding?

 

 

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 23:04 | 6126019 Kina
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why intefere with something already in chaos...better to get in on the ground floor..increase the chaos and crash.. and then try to control or own everything aka americn oligarch.  didnt work...russian warlords smarter and tougher than oligarch bankster.

 

 

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 23:23 | 6126053 macholatte
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One more thing........

Clinton was President 1991-2003 ... but the author didn't mention that. Maybe he forgot everything is not the fault of someone named Bush.

 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 00:25 | 6126135 PoasterToaster
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Left Right Left Right riGHT RIGHT.  Right?

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 12:17 | 6126918 Excursionist
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On this topic, who cares about false dichotomies?

Russia has been and continues to be a mafia state, and if another power like the U.S. undermines it, then great.

Think NSA data collection, civil forfeitures, militarized police, etc. are a problem in the U.S.?  Spend a few years in Russia and see if you feel the same.

Better yet, try exercising a right to carry a firearm while exercising a right to free speech by protesting in Red Square.  Maybe I'll see you in 20 years after you've worked off your sentence for "tax avoidance" or some such crap.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 12:30 | 6126952 loonyleft
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maybe that's a private joke CENTRAL intelligence agency. 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 10:49 | 6126701 illyia
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Research Bush's history. There is a difference, not only of generations but of locations, connections and experience.

GW Bush was not very good at it, but his predecessors were. GHW has some interesting connections in Germany as well.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 12:07 | 6126898 skepsis101
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CIA, NSA, DOD, FBI, MIC, etc., etc., etc., don't follow a left/right, repub/dem paradigm.  Only control, power, money.  All the rest (like presidents and democracies) are pure facade.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 14:16 | 6127190 Billy the Poet
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"Clinton was President 1991-2003 ... but the author didn't mention that. Maybe he forgot everything is not the fault of someone named Bush"

 

No, old man Bush was president from 1989-1993, Clinton from 1993-2001 and Bush Jr. from 2001-2009. Who's at fault? The public schools apparently.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 16:23 | 6127482 macholatte
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Yes. I made a typo.

 

'But I don't want to go among mad people,' said Alice. 'Oh, you can't help that,' said the cat. 'We're all mad here.'

Lewis Carroll


 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:02 | 6127594 Billy the Poet
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Now that you've reconsidered your typo you understand that some of the events which the author relates did, in fact, take place during administrations run by people named Bush and not just Clinton, right?

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 23:40 | 6128488 lordkoos
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Yeah but the Bush family is ahead, 2 to 1.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 05:23 | 6126350 TweedleDeeDooDah
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Oh, it worked, or still is working... look at the place. "Something else" came up and they just stopped trying.

And if "russian warlords" were better than oligarch banksters, you'd never know looing at Russia today, and the kow-towing of the warlords to Putin in prostate deference today.

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 23:05 | 6126027 TheReplacement
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Did you not read?  There was a specific goal and that specific goal was accomplished. 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 02:22 | 6126255 Flybyknight
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What have you been smoking Macholatte. The US did not help rebuild Russia although you are right it created the "wild west" situation that enabled many Russkie  Billionaires to pillage the population. America missed this oportunity to build Russia into a capitalist democracy that related well to its own people and to the outside world. Fortunately Putin arose and did this anyway. Unfortunately America is lead by arsehole fascists who do not give a shit about your everyday  Joe or Ivan and continue to behave as if they are saving the world from some imaginary communist threat. 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 07:32 | 6126424 PhilofOz
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Oh come now, you think these Russians were self-made billionaires already at the finish of the Soviet Union? All of them, every last one of them, were backed by Rothschild money... and in my mind there is no doubt at all that they are still just front men and agents working on behalf of the Rothschild clan. 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 10:02 | 6126599 Panopticon 131
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When the Russian economy was deliberately imploded in the 90s, none other than top international banking henchman Larry Summers (rap sheet: former Golman exec, Sec of Treasury, World Bank economist, Trilataralist, and principal spearheading the dismantling of Glass Steagall, etc.) was sent to advise the Russian ruling class on the privatization of the Russian peoples' state owned assets selling them for pennies on the dollar thus creating eight billionaire oligarchs with internationalist sympathies.

The fix was in.  Deep capture, final nail on the coffin that had been built when the Rothschilds and their underlings funded and supported the rise of the USSR.  

TPTB have ALL of us by the short hairs and have for a very long time.  Too many coups to count.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 14:20 | 6127197 Billy the Poet
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the Rothschilds and their underlings funded and supported the rise of the USSR.

 

Sure, they were bankers but they were in Russia on behalf of the Red Cross. They had uniforms and little trucks and everything. If the good hearted actions of the bankers on such a bleak occasion doesn't restore your faith in humanity nothing will.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 10:02 | 6126601 Panopticon 131
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When the Russian economy was deliberately imploded in the 90s, none other than top international banking henchman Larry Summers (rap sheet: former Golman exec, Sec of Treasury, World Bank economist, Trilataralist, and principal spearheading the dismantling of Glass Steagall, etc.) was sent to advise the Russian ruling class on the privatization of the Russian peoples' state owned assets selling them for pennies on the dollar thus creating eight billionaire oligarchs with internationalist sympathies.

The fix was in.  Deep capture, final nail on the coffin that had been built when the Rothschilds and their underlings funded and supported the rise of the USSR.  

TPTB have ALL of us by the short hairs and have for a very long time.  Too many coups to count.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 11:01 | 6126723 SmittyinLA
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So why would there be covert operations to destabilize Russia during that period of time, it was imploding?

Loot, the Russia collapse was followed by an orgy of zionist looting, without the state collapse there would be no fire sale of "conveniently nationalized" Russian assets, or are we gonna pretend that 1 family of jews didnt end up with title to 90% of nationalized Russian assets?

Exhibit A Ukraine, Ukraine isnt about defanging Russia, its about looting and destroying Ukraine, Ukraine is scheduled for "diversification" including everybody but Russians and Ukrainians, primarily hostile poor  Muslim cultural refugees folded into the Muslim debt* mobtopia that is the EU.

Americans confused defanging Russia with looting zionists, Zionists are a far bigger threat than Communists ever were, they were the Commie core and bankers, Communism and Socialism were just beards for Zionist looting, part of a 10,000 years old proven strategy of nation looting and cultural annihilation with the alien mob their primary weapon.

*who owns the mob debt?  Who are the creditors?

 

The FNM folks.

 

 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 11:40 | 6126816 jmc8888
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What?

We were the major cause of the implosion.  We looted and raped Russia via our puppet Yeltsin.

We didn't build anything, we tore Russia down. 

There were two collapses.

1. Soviet implosion

2. Western raping and looting

 

Russia doesn't believe in Western Economic Propaganda.  They've had their fill. 

Now they actually follow what we used to do, them and China.  They progress scientifically, infrastructure, i.e. REAL SHIT, while our side plays around with public austerity, wall street bailouts, derivatives, HFT, and all the statistical tricks to fake a recovery...and then some.

 

We destabilized Russia in any way we could.  We looted, raped, and sicked the terrorists on them...that's why Putin and Russia has always wanted to help with going after the terrorists.  Because it's the same network that was terrorizing his side.

But we don't want to go after terrorists.  We just want the public to think so, in reality, we are still sicking them on various countries...like Libya, Syria, and in a slightly different but similar tactic...Ukraine.

If we really want to stop this portion of the madness, join with Russia, go after the banks who hold and transfer these funds, and reign in the CIA/Saudi Arabia/MI6-UK.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 14:23 | 6127208 Billy the Poet
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Bill Clinton President Boris Yeltsin laugh Uncontrollably  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdPuEqeG3Xw
Sun, 05/24/2015 - 12:28 | 6126946 Peconic Bay
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Thank you for bring a little common sense to this non-sensical post.  Two more important historical points that undermine this claptrap.  First, there has always been tension between Russia, a Christian country, and the Muslim world on its borders. Russia and the Ottoman Turks had many clashes over time that always highlighted the rift between the Christian and Muslem worlds. The same is true for Russia and Persia. It was a perfectly natural aspiration for Muslim Chechnya to want independence from Russia when in the early 1990s many of the old Soviet republics achieved the same. 

Secondly, and more to the point, that Osama Bin Laden was in league with Saudi intelligence and enlisted to further the aims of the CIA and US oil interests is just plain crazy. Bin Laden's life was dedicated to eradicating western influence in the region; a jihad to undo the results of Sykes-Picot from 1916.  If anything, he would have wanted to overthrow the Saudi monarchy which is an artifact of Britain's post WW1 policies in Arabia.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 14:28 | 6127218 Billy the Poet
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Secondly, and more to the point, that Osama Bin Laden was in league with Saudi intelligence and enlisted to further the aims of the CIA and US oil interests is just plain crazy

 

I suppose that the recently declassified Pentagon document which says that the US and its allies have knowingly supported Al Qaeda in Syria specifically with the goal of creating an Islamic State in Iraq and Syria is also "crazy" in your opinion.

Well, the policy is crazy but it is what it is. You'd have to be crazy to deny its existence.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Pg.-291-Pgs.-287...

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 15:15 | 6127345 Peconic Bay
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"I suppose that the recently declassified Pentagon document which says that the US and its allies have knowingly supported Al Qaeda in Syria specifically with the goal of creating an Islamic State in Iraq and Syria is also "crazy" in your opinion."

The document you linked says no such thing.  It does highlight the risks attendant wtih Syria losing control of its eastern border with Iraq and that Islamic extremists (AQI and IS) are gaining strength as a result.  This is certainly confirmed by the facts on the ground.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:11 | 6127597 Billy the Poet
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The document says that the West, the Gulf States and Turkey have supported Al Qaeda in Iraq and other Al Qaeda offshoots and that the goal is to create an Islamic State in an effort to subvert Iran, Russia and China. It says it in plain English and it's only seven pages long. Read it again.

 

THE SALAFIST [sic], THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, AND AQI ARE THE MAJOR FORCES DRIVING THE INSURGENCY IN SYRIA.

AQI SUPPORTED THE SYRIAN OPPOSITION FROM THE BEGINNING, BOTH IDEOLOGICALLY AND THROUGH THE MEDIA…

OPPOSITION FORCES ARE TRYING TO CONTROL THE EASTERN AREAS (HASAKA AND DER ZOR), ADJACENT TO THE WESTERN IRAQI PROVINCES (MOSUL AND ANBAR), IN ADDITION TO NEIGHBORING TURKISH BORDERS. WESTERN COUNTRIES, THE GULF STATES AND TURKEY ARE SUPPORTING THESE EFFORTS.

IF THE SITUATION UNRAVELS THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A DECLARED OR UNDECLARED SALAFIST PRINCIPALITY IN EASTERN SYRIA (HASAKA AND DER ZOR), AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SUPPORTING POWERS TO THE OPPOSITION WANT, IN ORDER TO ISOLATE THE SYRIAN REGIME…

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 15:16 | 6127347 scaffold
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You are right macholatte.

Russia was the weakest under the Yeltsin. Russia was on the verge of the total collapse. If CIA (or the like) wanted to destroy Russia it was the best time. But it was decided otherwise. CIA needed Russia, because as we know from teachings of the Orwell, there is always the need for the enemy.

So Putin entered the game. He was backed by the West. Yeltsin has never got good reputation on the West. Putin however very quickly became "good democratic president" of the new Russia. It was ridiculous from the beginning. It was Putin who murdered hundreds of journalists. It was Putin who ordered many atrocities in Chechnya. And everyone could see completely faked Russian elections, where Russian TV cant even add up to make 100...

Putin received really big help from USA. They cooperated in Georgia. Putin and USA created recent oil bubble. And so on.

Putin from the beginning was the puppet. Like Hussein. Like Gaddafi. Like Bin Laden. And like in the case of all of them, his time has ended. He has done what had to do. And is now useless.

Because the New Game is beginning. With new sort of puppets on political chessboard. New puppets in this big theatre for the masses.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 16:15 | 6127464 Bokkenrijder
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Lot's of vague insinuations, but no concrete evidence. For example, what was the name of that Azeri airline?

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 13:15 | 6127048 silvermail
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Do you think that Britain today is not a colony of the United States?

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 22:10 | 6125894 bullxead
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By the way present ruler, and his killed father - Kadyrov clan - were allies with Basayev and al-Khattab in fight against Russian troops not long time ago. 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 05:36 | 6126356 datura
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"By the way present ruler, and his killed father - Kadyrov clan - were allies with Basayev and al-Khattab in fight against Russian troops not long time ago." 

 

yes, but Putin convinced them to mend their ways and to follow him instead. And they did! Another sign of a great leader. Ramzan Kadyrov really loves and admires Putin, you can clearly see it in his eyes on the photos, where they stand together. Or when Putin had birthdays, Kadyrov had tens of thousands Chechens march to celebrate it, with Putin's face on their T-shirts:-) That is what so many Westerners still don’t understand, it would not have been possible to keep Russia intact and to prevent the disintegration continuously provoked by CIA without a strong leader, whom people follow (even muslims and most Chechens). The USA government hoped that Russia would fall apart, but they did not expect the rise of Putin, who stopped it. It must have been a huge disappointment for them and they knew it is a big problem already at the moment, when Putin became president for the first time. What I found most interesting is that many people did not expect Putin to become such a strong leader, he did not appear to be that kind of person at the first sight. And he himself never expected to have to play this role. Berezovsky (the former most powerful Russian oligarch, who had absolutely no reasons to praise Putin, because Putin threw him out of Russia and nationalized his property), admitted with surprising sincerity: "Putin did NOT aspire for power, it was me and others, who attempted to persuade him to become president and Putin finally accepted only after Yeltsin pleaded with him to take it."

 

http://www.sott.net/article/278407-Is-Putin-incorruptible-US-insiders-vi...

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 22:13 | 6125899 Silver_K-9
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Helps explain why Bin Laden was off'd in that "Murder Op"... Maybe he was about to talk and the NSA picked that up and Barry ordered the hit!?

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 22:26 | 6125925 Cityzerosix
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Strange how no-one gets a chance to speak. Saddam would also have had a lot to talk about.

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 22:29 | 6125931 Silver_K-9
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The CIA is like a Los Angeles Gang...

#BloodInBloodOut

#BodyBag

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 23:42 | 6128492 lordkoos
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Just like Noriega... he was lucky to be left alive.

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 22:17 | 6125913 thatthingcanfly
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One wonders: Had Halliburton (et al) known in the early 1990s that there were petroleum reserves INCONUS that would be accessible via horizontal drilling combined with hydraulic fracturing, or that there were huge reserves in the Arctic accessible via conventional means, would they have pushed their friends in high places to get the US involved in regime change in Azerbejan, Georgia, Ukraine, etc?

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 22:31 | 6125935 Silver_K-9
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Yea... Use up all their Oil and we would still have ours (and future advantage)...

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 10:50 | 6126703 viahj
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with the added benefit of the global petro-dollar.  of course it is designed to plunder "their" resources for cheap dollars.

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 22:53 | 6125992 bid the soldier...
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Isn't the point of the article that the US was out to get Russia, not out to get oil?

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 01:23 | 6126207 Silver_K-9
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!. Keep Russia down

2. Get the oil from Russian satelite countries (denying them of revenues)

 

It was a 2fer...

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 05:40 | 6126358 ThirdWorldDude
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"In fact, an Islamic revival - already abetted from the outside not only by Iran but also by Saudi Arabia - is likely to become the mobilizing impulse for the increasingly pervasive new nationalisms, determined to oppose any reintegration under Russian - and hence infidel - control."    -   Zbig Brzezinski, The Grand Chessboard, (p. 133 - addressing the need and methods of keeping the former USSR republics in Central Asia away from Russia and under US control)

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 14:31 | 6127227 Billy the Poet
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Zbigniew Brzezinski to the Mujahideen: "Your cause is right and God is on your side!"

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9RCFZnWGE0

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 23:43 | 6128494 lordkoos
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Fracking is far less effective and much more expensive than drilling a conventional oil field.

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 22:47 | 6125973 Icelandicsaga.....
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The article says .... With the former Soviet Union in total chaos and disarray, George H.W. Bush’s Administration decided to “kick ‘em when they’re down,” a sad error. Washington redeployed their Afghan veteran terrorists to bring chaos and destabilize all of Central Asia, even into the Russian Federation itself, then in a deep and traumatic crisis during the economic collapse of the Yeltsin era.    The economic collapse was in NO SMALL PART due to the kind of 'help' the US sent to Russia during the Yeltsin era.. from testimony before congress of Ann Williamson . investigative journalist and expert on Russia before and after the wall fell.... http://thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Economics&Finance/+Doc-Eco... Testimony before congress . 1999 ... When the Administration says it had no choice but to rely upon the bad actors it did select for American largesse, Congress should recall Larisa Piasheva. How different today’s Russia might have been had only the Bush Administration and the many Western advisers from the IMF, the World Bank, the International Finance Corporation, the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development and the Harvard Institute of International Development then on the ground in Moscow chosen to champion Ms. Piasheva’s vision of a rapid disbursement of property to the people rather than to the "golden children" of the Soviet nomenklatura.

Instead, after robbing the Russian people of the only capital they had to participate in the new market – the nation’s household savings  – by freeing prices in what was a monopolistic economy and which delivered a 2500% inflation in 1992, America’s "brave, young Russian reformers" ginned-up a development theory of "Big Capitalism" based on Karl Marx’s mistaken edict that capitalism requires the "primitive accumulation of capital". Big capitalists would appear instantly, they said, and a broadly-based market economy shortly thereafter if only the pockets of pre-selected members of their own ex-Komsomol circle were properly stuffed. Those who hankered for a public reputation were to secure the government perches from which they would pass state assets to their brethren in the nascent business community, happy in the knowledge that they too would be kicked back a significant cut of the swag. The US-led West accommodated the reformers’ cockeyed theory by designing a rapid and easily manipulated voucher privatization program that was really only a transfer of title and which was funded with $325 million US taxpayers’ dollars.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 00:23 | 6126131 PoasterToaster
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So they stole all the real estate and handed it over to new slavemasters, just like they did recently in the US by handing all the mortgages over to oligarch banks through MERS and the engineered financial collapse.

There is no crises, it's all been a diversionary plan to steal everything and put the country under the rule of a small elitist cadre and enforced by the jackboot of their totalitarian "government".

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 22:51 | 6125986 heisenberg991
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Arms and the Dudes.

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 23:03 | 6126021 TheReplacement
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Gave it a four simply because there are so many spelling and grammatical errors.  It is nice to see what we all know finally documented.

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 23:08 | 6126030 Atomizer
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Just Saturday night humor. Enjoy....

Grammar Nazis

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vf8N6GpdM

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 01:44 | 6126234 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Minor nitpick: Putin was never the KGB chief. He was a desk jockey in East Germany.

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 23:04 | 6126026 Atomizer
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Mossad won't like this. 

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 23:09 | 6126031 Omega_Man
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The US people should take care of this evil from within... cause if Russia does it, it will not be pretty.

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 23:10 | 6126033 dsty
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Well, you can believe Putin if you want to.

He wouldn't lie would he?

It really is hard to tell what the truth is some times.

Since both sides have tainted reputations

Let's hope that the line is not crossed too soon.

Best get ready and not wait till that happens

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 05:15 | 6126342 blabam
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Didn't Putin blow up a couple of apartment buildings to get the second Chechen war started? The guy would clearly never lie.  

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 23:13 | 6126037 YHC-FTSE
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Anyone familiar with Operation Gladio B would not raise an eyebrow about these revelations. 

The thing that surprises me is the CIA's huge spectrum of involvement all over the world. I guess that is why the black budget is estimated to be twice that of the Pentagon's regular military budget and the CIA is as big as an independent city state.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 00:29 | 6126141 bid the soldier...
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I read the CIA's annual budget is around $50 billion. 

A sum that covers many longitudes

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 02:37 | 6126267 Quus Ant
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50bill

does that include drug money and human trafficking?

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 02:49 | 6126274 bid the soldier...
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of course not

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 03:00 | 6126278 Quus Ant
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so around 400 billion.

Not too shabby.  

 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 15:05 | 6127311 bid the soldier...
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Brennan predicts 2020 to be the first trillion dollar year. The agency has developed "Maidan On Demand" in over 175 countries. Shooting for at least 3 democratically elected presidential assassinations of Russian allies.

Not too shabby.

Indeedy.

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 23:14 | 6126040 bid the soldier...
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Thanks for crossing all the 't's and dotting the 'i's about a topic some of us intuited 15 years ago or more.

 

The good news is that Putin was obviously aware of this from the get go and all the tears the Kremlin shed about the Missile Defense Shield just hid the fact that Russia was developing cutting edge rocketry and hypersonic missiles. (maybe Khibiny is real, maybe not).

Whilst the US was building more aircraft carriers for Russia's Yakhont and spending more on the F-35.  And don't forget the worthless Patriots which NATO now wants to replace with a better US missile.

 

I assume that none of the ZH readers have fallen for the recent mishaps of the Proton rocket.  The undelivered cargo to the ISS. The cancellation of the delivery of a new crew.

It's all a charade that will be resolved after the EU votes whether or not to extend the sanctions on Russia on or about the 1st of July.

 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 08:48 | 6126524 Max Steel
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They were building more battleships not aircraft carriers and russia is developing its new ashm .

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 08:48 | 6126525 Max Steel
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They were building more battleships not aircraft carriers and russia is developing its new ashm .

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 23:34 | 6126069 q99x2
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I believe it is high time Putin should go after financial terrorists. Somebody please help the people of the United States of America defeat the NWO globalist banksters.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 10:56 | 6126714 viahj
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the people of the US aren't interested in defeating the NWO globalists (well not many are aware).  they are too dependent upon the GRC and too dumbed down to know better.  until that changes no one else is going to help us, they're too busy defining their own fronts.

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 23:41 | 6126080 Magooo
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What if? 

 

Of course he is telling the truth

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 01:23 | 6126206 Flybyknight
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My thoughts exactly. I do not respect or trust anything put out by Washington since the downing of MH17 and subsequent coverup. Clearly the CIA at work and the sooner they curl up and die the better for the whole world.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 06:33 | 6126381 winchester
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i hope you realize such willing cannot happen by itself until a war come into play...

 

and the world wide population do not want war anymore.

 

so... only the upper stages opperate, and we do not have our word to say to make any change possible, until you have the ressources and the power to do so.

 

better go off grid, flee in no man'sl and and live your life way of this shit, in a place nobody will hijack your food when the system will have totally stopped, unable to care about population.... ( 2030 max, imho)

 

 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 12:29 | 6126948 skepsis101
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You are 100% correct.  And I am afraid your solution is the only answer.  I've been thinking about this for a very long time, searching the world for an out, and getting real close to pulling the trigger.  I'm old, way too old to be concerning myself with all this shit.  I would just like to have a fun time on my way out.  But its my 22 year old son I am concerned about, and I guess a little bit of legacy thrown in.  My wife and I both have damn good genes, and it would be a crime to not see it passed on.  So I will do whatever it is that I have to to that end.  Give my boy a chance.

But your dateline is off.  All the mathematical reality presages a financial, hence political, mega implosion way beforehand.  Not 15 years out. I would have to guess three at the most.  So take heed.

Sat, 05/23/2015 - 23:47 | 6126096 SilvertonguedAngel
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I can't believe these aholes are still calling the Crimean reunification 'annexation'.

 

ANNEXATION MEANS FORCED TAKEOVER, CRIMEA REJOINED BY REFERENDUM

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 00:02 | 6126110 sam i am
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Duh...

Russia reunited with Autonomous Republic of Crimea, per people's referendum and really big desire to get out of the NATO occupied fascists Ukraine.

Russia as much "annexed" Crimea as the West Germany annexed the East Germany.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 01:00 | 6126187 bthunder
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Whazzup Chekist?  Working early morning on a Sunday?  This msut be the worst shift to work and since you've got it, you must be the dumbest son-of-a-bitch working at Lubyanka.  Anyone with a iny bit of competence would get a better assignment.  And yes, you truly suck at what you do.  Nobody from the West would ever call Crimea an "Autonomous Republic of Crimea" - this is a fucking translation from Soviet days "russki" map or textbook. Only "russki" speaking moron would use such a phrase.  But, if your dear president was sent back to USSR from "friendly" East Germany because he was such a shitty spy, any moron can now be a Chekist.

Now back to Germany: Russia as much "annexed" Crimea as the West Germany annexed the East Germany? Seriously? You're forgetting that before East/West Germany reunification, it was USSR that annexed part of Germany and turned into a socialist shithole.  Now, that's much better analogy with what Puti-poo did in Crimea.

You call the "green men" pointing guns in peoples' faces "people's referendum?"  Dude, go get some sleep, drink some vodka (naturally, toast to Putin's health and long years in power) and think about this:  after 14 years of record oil proces and record oil profts, what has your dear leader done for the people of Russia who live outside of the Sadovoe ring.  Try to come up with something tangible. Answering that Putin made russians  proud does not count.  They were proud to be in USSR in March 2001, but by December there was no USSR. Also, answering that they have new tanks and military jets doesn't count too, since they can't ride tanks to the store to buy vodka (except tose who live in the occupied east  ukraine.)  I mean, Abramovich has a fleet of yachts and a football club, what tangible things do average russians have to show for all the oil and gas sold after 2001?  And while CheKa spooks still get paid, this too will not last.


Sun, 05/24/2015 - 01:31 | 6126218 vic and blood
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Sam I Am may have a nip of vodka now and then, but you need to cut back on those mass quantities of rotgut and propaganda. By the way, you can watch nearly endless footage of the referendum, but I suspect that your fact laden propaganda will trump anything your lying eyes might see.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 14:14 | 6126636 Latina Lover
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Bthunder is a 8 week wonder who can't accept the fact that the Ukie Maidanites got punked by the USSA.  Instead of a free and prosperous Ukraine marching boldly into the arms of Europa, he/she/it lives in a degenerate shithole with the worst performing economy in the first quarter 2015, unpayable debts, endless military failures and a 90% draft avoidance rate,  a predatory oligarchic class squeezing the last drops of blood before they run off to England, US, Israel, and an IMF ready to enslave the Ukies on behalf of the international banksters. If Russia was so bad, why are more than 2 million economic refugees hiding there?

Frankly, no one gives a shit about your crappy country, now that the big prize of Crimea is gone, and the Donbass has stuck the Ukies with the unpayable sovereign debt?  Your propaganda is boring, and your phony maidan will eventually be tossed on the trash heap of history, joining Bolshevism and other  failed political movements.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 01:34 | 6126221 Volkodav
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bored

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 01:36 | 6126223 damicol
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The cum stains around your fucking loud ignorant  mouth from sucking every fucking cock in Washington is now are now so thick and dripping its a miracle you can still move your fucking lips

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 01:40 | 6126230 bthunder
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i don't use lips to type, i use fingers.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 07:38 | 6126432 Main_Sequence
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Ok, so the cum stains around your fucking fingers from jerking-off every fucking cock in Washington is now so thick, webbed, and dripping, its a miracle you can still move your fingers to type such beligerant crap. ;)

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 08:26 | 6126486 basho
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yours?

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 06:36 | 6126383 avd
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Moronic is to imply that every Russian who speaks English badly is a checkist. Do you believe that all Russians are chekists, or only those of them who had 'C' for English in the school are chekists?

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 07:56 | 6126449 bthunder
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A person from a foreign county who reads this blog, reads comments, has time and ability to respond to comments, and is doing all this at 7am local time, is either on CheKa payroll (which is normal) or, if he's not getting paid, a moron.  An indoctrinated, fanatical moron who wakes up and goes to sleep with Channel 1 on his TV

 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 08:25 | 6126484 basho
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lmao

"ability to respond" you definitely have not

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 09:01 | 6126544 avd
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This is internet. People visit funny and interesting sites like ZH all around the world. This is 21st century.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 11:05 | 6126732 viahj
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people from "foreign" countries?  where do you think this blog stations?  hint, it's not the USA. 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 00:34 | 6126152 robertocarlos
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Them's fightin' words.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 00:38 | 6126155 falconflight
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Yeah, but Ireland is the full monty of gay.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 02:07 | 6126209 RichardParker
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Not to worry, things have quieted down quite a bit in Chechnya after Putin put the semi literate trogldyte rapist murderer, Ramzan Kadyrov on the Kremlin's payroll.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramzan_Kadyrov

Funny how journalists that cover Chechnya have a propensity to turn up dead/missing.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 06:46 | 6126387 Wild E Coyote
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You mean a semi literate brought peace to Chechnya? Wow,

Maybe Putin has good talent to pick right guys.  

And did you say, journalist are going missing in the peaceful Chechnya? Does that have any corelation?

If yes, maybe we shoudl reduce journalist around the world to have more peace. 

Thanks for the ideas. I gave you that one up. 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 07:48 | 6126443 bthunder
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Not "brought peace", but "bought peace."  The same way Petraeus "bought" peace with sunnis in Iraq.  Once cash payments stopped, they restarted was as ISIS.  As soon as Kremlin stops paying out the chechen criminal gangs - they will turn on Kremlin.  Do you think that chechens that are fighting in eastern ukraine do it becasue for any reason other than cash?

 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 22:04 | 6128255 RichardParker
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Has it occured to you that Putin deliberately chose a dim witted thug with a penchant for "ultraviolence" to run Chechnya because he would be easy to control?  Peaceful?  Like East German Stasi Peaceful?  I think the people are terrified of Kadyrov. 

When he's not tooling around Grozny in his Bentley, I suspect he's probably a little more descrete these days when he tortures people.     

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 01:37 | 6126225 MEFOBILLS
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I will keep saying it, even though nobody is listening.  This should be an ironclad rule for all economics:

 

A nations currency should circulate only within its borders.  

 

A quote from the article

From the mid-1990s, bin Laden paid Chechen guerrilla leaders Shamil Basayev and Omar ibn al-Khattab the handsome sum of several million dollars per month," 

 

Since the dollar is reserve and can demand resources pratically everywhere in the world, it easily becomes an instrument of influence.  Those that create said dollars then have undue influence.  Credit dollars are created by private banks.  Saudi's can easily create dollars by using a ships bill of lading as collateral on a loan.  Or, they can just dip into their normal revenue stream of dollars received in trade for oil.

 

A nations money supply should not be all banker credit, and for sure - the worlds money supply should not be all private banker credit.

If nations want to trade goods and service with each other, they can use a Bancor.  This is a simple accounting device that marks trade.  All nations trade with each other is only barter.  Money should not exchange for money.

So, in a sovereign money system (within borders) also using bancors (to manage external trade), how could the CIA influence Chechnya?  

They couldn't.  And the obverse is true as well.  Other countries would not be able to bribe and influence the U.S.

How about giving sanity a chance, and moving away from psychopathy?

 We don't need our insane in-group (you know who I mean), debt spreading private money system anymore, it should be flushed down the crapper of history.

www.sovereignmoney.eu


Sun, 05/24/2015 - 04:53 | 6126334 aleph0
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Well said.
As is the case today ...  the US can just print FRN paper (IOU Dollars) and send out ship-loads or plane-loads as bribes to foreign dictators for influence.
The "value" behind those FRN-notes is the US Military and Secret Service Surveillance ...certainly not anything "good".

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 01:54 | 6126240 damicol
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My father didn't beat about the bush. Even at 85 when he died he could demolish anyone with a very withering retort to anyone who was presumptuous or  took liberties with his age or assumed mental ability.

When i was a youngster and thought my perfect plan to mislead him when he started asking about something that I would rather had not happened, he hold his forehead and then rub it, and lifting his hair over his brow would ask me if there was something on his forehead.

Gazing intently, I would say No, I cant see anything.

Funny thing that, he would say, I couldn't either when I looked in the mirror  this morning.

Are you sure there is nothing there, like a tattoo or anything.

No, I would reply,

You cant see the word cunt tattooed there.

No.

Well when you do see the word cunt tattooed on my forehead, you can take it from me that that's the time you can treat me like a cunt. Until such time I suggest you are very very circumspect in who you treat like a cunt, because if you treat me like a cunt then you can be sure, certain, that I will treat you like a cunt.

And we know what happens to cunts don't we.

He got the unvarnished truth, no matter how painful it might be.

Getting fucked once in your life by my father was not something you took lightly or made the mistake of ever repeating.

Its high time strong Americans fucked these cunts that lie so glibly  and take us all for cunts. These shitty little cock suckers in Washington need to learn that the days of treating us all like cunts to fucked at will is over.

Are you listening you fucking ignorant black fucking faggot.

 

 

 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 10:22 | 6126635 Monetas
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Great father story .... don't let these lefties annoy you .... they are the annoyed ones .... that's why they especially come out on Memorial Day weekend .... to rain on our parade .... laugh at their pathetic cries for help ! LOL

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 05:00 | 6126336 Firewood
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NATO..... NORTH AMERIKAN TERROR ORGAN with Pentacon Kill Industries occupied Germany as the keystone in USSAs global terror operation. Remove keystone Germany from the NATO gang and the entire Pentacon Inc collapses like the fiat paper tiger that it is.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 05:10 | 6126340 reader2010
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That's what doing God's work is all about. It looks like they are busy doing moar God's work in China's Muslim regions. 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 09:34 | 6126557 Raul44
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doG`s work, you need to read from right to left in hebrew.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 06:16 | 6126373 goldhedge
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China.  You are next.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 07:44 | 6126438 smacker
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The more I read about the plots that are going on today against Russia and instigated by the West: Washington, Westminster and others including the pig sty Saudi Arabia, the more they confirm my long held suspicions that Cold War I had little or nothing to do with what Russia wanted to do. It was all pre-planned and organised by Western governments to destroy Russia and seize control of its natural resources and giant land mass.

Thus, the Cold War I actions Russia took with regard to Eastern Europe were not part of some Russian expansionist strategy to spread Communism, but were a response to Western govts' attempts to surround it and destroy it. Eastern Europe became the necessary "buffer zone" to protect the motherland from Western aggression.

Is it any wonder that more and more honest people are re-assessing their decades-long view about Russia. It is not the evil empire as we have been brainwashed into believing, but simply wants/wanted to be a part of the global community. But the West will not allow that, so we have the Ukraine fascist coup et al, all engineered by the West.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 08:19 | 6126469 roadhazard
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 So the CIA works against Russia. Just like Russia worked against the US in Viet Nam for one example. Russia is no different than the US.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 08:37 | 6126500 tongue.stan
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what is even more shicking id that yhe NSA and CIA are currently acyively posting misinfo on fringe economis blogs and trackimg the web activity of accounts on these same blogs for the purposes of controlling and eventually extinguishing any opposition to their nefarious plans for mass killings .

may the lord alah budha muhaned jasus have mercy on our souls bitchez.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 09:38 | 6126566 nathan1234
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Enough is Enough.

The world now knows what the American have been doing for the last 100 years. Wars, False Flags, bio weapons. depleted uranium, chicanery, Monetary manipulations, Financial frauds, ponzi schemes etc.

Russia's gloves have come off. The gauntlet has been thrown.

China stands behind Russia.

If Syria falls you have WW3. If Porky & Fcuk U Victoria do not stop their actions you also have WW3.

The EU has had enough. The Germans and French do not wish to fight anymore.

For those who dreamt of the American dream- their nightmares will soon be in effect- dreams thrown aside.

I guess soon all Americans will have to answer for their country's actions. Just like the Germans were asked.

 

 

 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 09:41 | 6126569 Monetas
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The bumbling fools of democracy .... will outsmart .... the "brilliant" dictator .... every time !

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 09:50 | 6126583 Fidel Castrol
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the US infiltrated the russian economy with chosenite oligarchs to plunder the national wealth to be squirreled away in tel aviv and geneva, fomented terrorism on its borders and funded hypocritical NGOs to tutor these benighted russkies in the ways of freedumb.

now that freedumb-house propaganda machine is pointed straight home, we found out that the terrists have a mind of their own and are blowing up marathons and what not, and of course our chosenite oligarchs decided to gangrape us all one last time in 08-09 before putting that final bullet in our goyischekopfs.

blowback's a bitch.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 10:07 | 6126607 dsty
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ZH is stacked pretty high with pro Rooskies

easy to tell by the tally counts

or the hurt feelings counter.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 10:15 | 6126614 Monetas
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This is a public service .... that ZH lets these idiots "out" themselves .... enjoy them .... they are telling us how much they hurt inside !

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 12:05 | 6126888 roadhazard
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The Cult of Poutin.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 10:19 | 6126624 Prober
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ZH has become my favorite entertainment site because of all the wacko fantasy propaganda articles like this one.

Anyone with at least 3 functioning neurons knows that Putin and the FSb fabricated the attacks by Chechnya inside Russia to create the bogey man necessary to unite the Russian moron proletariat behind Putin.

An extra benefit to these false flag attacks perpetrated by Putin was that he could weave an additional fiction that the USA was complicit, adding the traditional Russian bogey man to the propaganda the Kremlin uses to keep the imbecilic Russian proletariat united behind Putin in the endless struggle to save mother Russia from external invaders.

I also enjoy seeing how many gullible morons on ZH swallow the Russian propaganda hook, sinker and line, as though it were a news feed from god. And just think how few years ago the same Russian scum were peddling the Soviet garbage, and the same imbeciles were gobbling up that crap too.

The world is full of idiots, just follow the trail of propaganda feeders and you can find them all.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 10:27 | 6126648 Monetas
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Putin's "Annoynted" followers .... what a fabulous zoo they make ! LOL

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 10:34 | 6126665 Urban Redneck
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The search for truth in complex system is like the search for linearity in a complex system - it is a fools errand, but also one of a the few practicable ways to offer enlightenment to fools.

The consequences of the feedback from US strategic cooperation with the GCC and intervention in Afghanistan in the 70's and 80's are not linear.

The propaganda from both sides is trite and tiring, but despite the blatant errors in the piece, it is less wrong than the alternative (prevailing western propaganda of complete innocence and non-intervention). 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 10:56 | 6126713 Prober
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Fair enough. but there is at least one absolute truth:

In the previous era the Russian vermin were peddling the soviet gospels as truth, goodness and inevitable destiny

NOW

in the current era, the same Russian vermin are peddling the Putin gospels as truth, goodness and inevitable destiny

EVERYTHING COMING OUT OF ANY RUSSIAN REGIME IS ALL 100% PURE SHIT

the Russian regimes ALWAYS peddle whatever propaganda garbage the idiotic masses will gobble up in order to keep the Russian regimes in power

and that is ABSOLUTE TRUTH.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 12:46 | 6126988 skepsis101
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Wow!  The Langley crowd just had their best run yet.  Come on guys, you CAN do better.  Or is the the www ((world wide web, (sic)) complicating things.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 11:26 | 6126757 shovelhead
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In a legal sense there are

A.) indisputable facts

B.) disputable facts 

C.) conjecture.

The trick is to try to move as many elements of B & C into A for one party and the other works in the opposite direction. The means to this are corroborating evidence and witnesses, placing them at the scene and testing their veracity.

The approximate truth is the one with the most elements of the case in A.

Hopefully that will be the winner of the case but that's not always so.

Juries are notoriously unreliable with facts and can tend to emotional appeals.

History is written much the same way.

 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 10:29 | 6126651 shovelhead
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Just because you get your opponent on the ropes doesn't mean he's gonna stay there.

Muhammad Ali would rope-a-dope until his opponent punched himself out to exhaustion.

Then Bada-Bing.

This ain't no 15 round fight. Putins got gold, oil, gas and a big-ass guy in his corner.

We got a guy in Mom jeans and a bicycle helmet, riding a talking horse.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 11:02 | 6126726 marcusfenix
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is Putin telling the truth?

probably. but honestly I don't so much care whether he is or not except in so far as if his stand against the DC blood suckers is genuine or not.

whats important is we know, as fact, as gospel truth beyond a reasonable doubt that Washington lies, cheats, steals, murders, rapes and terrorizes all over the world on a daily basis.

we know that they have become the villains and they have done so with our blood and our treasure. 

so if Putin truly stands in opposition to this rotten, diseased mockery of government for, of and by the people that resides in our capitol then he deserves respect and admiration for standing up for his people, his country and the morals and values thereof. if not...well it would not be shocking to find out.

I guess we will know soon enough. 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 11:18 | 6126754 dsty
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Vladimir, I want you to honest, are you lying or telling the truth?

Personaly, I think it would be wrong for a manly man to lie,

and if you did would it be manly to admit it?

Of course we got faggot for brains over here,

so we already know what to expect from mister swishypants.

 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 11:29 | 6126782 gougeonit
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It's just a ride.

https://youtu.be/DUjmfcFYRzQ

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 11:33 | 6126801 Paracelsus
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I believe there is a quotation of Eisenhower saying,about the CIA,that he "didn't want no damn Gestapo".

Did they have some dirty pic's of him and his driver Kate Summersby?

How are ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've been to the big city?! 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 11:37 | 6126804 22winmag
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Not surprised.

 

Iran-Contra players and other government-approved criminals from the 80s are still causing havoc around the world.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 12:19 | 6126926 falak pema
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You mean Nuland knew Chechen before she blew Ukraine. Was she also a Georgian shish kebabist in 2008 (that guy who was PM of Georgia then is now deeply implicated in Ukraine) ? She was second in charge of the ex-Soviet desk since 1996.

That way she'd have all bases covered in the saga of CIA vs Putin...ever since the Emirs of Dagestan's Mujahideen invaded region in 1999 when Putin was only President of Russia, not the Russian Federation.

No place for honest men when CIA moonshines the FSB singing "my smokey butt is moar beautiful". 

 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 12:44 | 6126984 gcjohns1971
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BS.

A temporarily useful idiot is not an ally.

The islamisists have been trying to rise since Attaturk.

They were useful in Afghanistan.  Just as west was useful to them.

That is neither friendship nor creation.

Putin is on the payroll.   The US is being set up as the global bad bank. Russians and Chinese are being set up to collect...everything.

Putin is lying to get Russia ready for the war.

Extinction is better.  Better make sure Obumma didn't disable the nukes.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 12:44 | 6126985 gcjohns1971
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BS.

A temporarily useful idiot is not an ally.

The islamisists have been trying to rise since Attaturk.

They were useful in Afghanistan.  Just as west was useful to them.

That is neither friendship nor creation.

Putin is on the payroll.   The US is being set up as the global bad bank. Russians and Chinese are being set up to collect...everything.

Putin is lying to get Russia ready for the war.

Extinction is better.  Better make sure Obumma didn't disable the nukes.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:35 | 6127652 WTFUD
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I feel time for a new improved Soros colour revolution.

Trouble is with so many past operations we need to mix colours and shades.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:44 | 6127677 Silver Bullet
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More Vlad Purina sick ducking from Tyler. What about all the people Vlad "didn't kill/blowup" in those apartment buildings as he took power in 2000? You know the murder of hundreds of one's own countrymen?

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 19:15 | 6127903 gdpetti
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These are the GLADIO B Team operations, many through RUssia's Southern areas like Chechnya.... look up the so-called BOston bombers in this op.... just another false flag op.... which currently has come home to roost, just look up all the NGO connections to so-called demonstrations in recent years.... just watch the usual crew at work, like Soros et al.

Mon, 05/25/2015 - 09:22 | 6129006 Xiuhcoatl
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There is an alternate point of view. "Blowing Up Russia" contains the allegations of ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko against his former spymasters in Moscow which led to his being murdered in London.

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