The Original Chechnya Bombers - The CIA, The Saudis And Bin Laden

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Authored by F. William Engdahl via New Eastern Outlook,

What if Putin is Telling The Truth?

On April 26 Russia’s main national TV station, Rossiya 1, featured President Vladimir Putin in a documentary to the Russian people on the events of the recent period including the annexation of Crimea, the US coup d’etat in Ukraine, and the general state of relations with the United States and the EU. His words were frank. And in the middle of his remarks the Russian former KGB chief dropped a political bombshell that was known by Russian intelligence two decades ago.

Putin stated bluntly that in his view the West would only be content in having a Russia weak, suffering and begging from the West, something clearly the Russian character is not disposed to. Then a short way into his remarks, the Russian President stated for the first time publicly something that Russian intelligence has known for almost two decades but kept silent until now, most probably in hopes of an era of better normalized Russia-US relations.

Putin stated that the terror in Chechnya and in the Russian Caucasus in the early 1990’s was actively backed by the CIA and western Intelligence services to deliberately weaken Russia. He noted that the Russian FSB foreign intelligence had documentation of the US covert role without giving details.

What Putin, an intelligence professional of the highest order, only hinted at in his remarks, I have documented in detail from non-Russian sources. The report has enormous implications to reveal to the world the long-standing hidden agenda of influential circles in Washington to destroy Russia as a functioning sovereign state, an agenda which includes the neo-nazi coup d’etat in Ukraine and severe financial sanction warfare against Moscow. The following is drawn on my book, “The Lost Hegemon” to be published soon…

CIA’s Chechen Wars

Not long after the CIA and Saudi Intelligence-financed Mujahideen had devastated Afghanistan at the end of the 1980’s, forcing the exit of the Soviet Army in 1989, and the dissolution of the Soviet Union itself some months later, the CIA began to look at possible places in the collapsing Soviet Union where their trained “Afghan Arabs” could be redeployed to further destabilize Russian influence over the post-Soviet Eurasian space.

They were called Afghan Arabs because they had been recruited from ultraconservative Wahhabite Sunni Muslims from Saudi Arabia, the Arab Emirates, Kuwait, and elsewhere in the Arab world where the ultra-strict Wahhabite Islam was practiced. They were brought to Afghanistan in the early 1980’s by a Saudi CIA recruit who had been sent to Afghanistan named Osama bin Laden.

With the former Soviet Union in total chaos and disarray, George H.W. Bush’s Administration decided to “kick ‘em when they’re down,” a sad error. Washington redeployed their Afghan veteran terrorists to bring chaos and destabilize all of Central Asia, even into the Russian Federation itself, then in a deep and traumatic crisis during the economic collapse of the Yeltsin era.

In the early 1990s, Dick Cheney’s company, Halliburton, had surveyed the offshore oil potentials of Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and the entire Caspian Sea Basin. They estimated the region to be “another Saudi Arabia” worth several trillion dollars on today’s market. The US and UK were determined to keep that oil bonanza from Russian control by all means. The first target of Washington was to stage a coup in Azerbaijan against elected president Abulfaz Elchibey to install a President more friendly to a US-controlled Baku–Tbilisi–Ceyhan (BTC) oil pipeline, “the world’s most political pipeline,” bringing Baku oil from Azerbaijan through Georgia to Turkey and the Mediterranean.

At that time, the only existing oil pipeline from Baku was a Soviet era Russian pipeline that ran through the Chechen capital, Grozny, taking Baku oil north via Russia’s Dagestan province, and across Chechenya to the Black Sea Russian port of Novorossiysk. The pipeline was the only competition and major obstacle to the very costly alternative route of Washington and the British and US oil majors.

President Bush Sr. gave his old friends at CIA the mandate to destroy that Russian Chechen pipeline and create such chaos in the Caucasus that no Western or Russian company would consider using the Grozny Russian oil pipeline.

Graham E. Fuller, an old colleague of Bush and former Deputy Director of the CIA National Council on Intelligence had been a key architect of the CIA Mujahideen strategy. Fuller described the CIA strategy in the Caucasus in the early 1990s: “The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan against the Red Army. The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power.”6

The CIA used a dirty tricks veteran, General Richard Secord, for the operation. Secord created a CIA front company, MEGA Oil. Secord had been convicted in the 1980s for his central role in the CIA’s Iran-Contra illegal arms and drugs operations.

In 1991 Secord, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, landed in Baku and set up the CIA front company, MEGA Oil. He was a veteran of the CIA covert opium operations in Laos during the Vietnam War. In Azerbaijan, he setup an airline to secretly fly hundreds of bin Laden’s al-Qaeda Mujahideen from Afghanistan into Azerbaijan. By 1993, MEGA Oil had recruited and armed 2,000 Mujahideen, converting Baku into a base for Caucasus-wide Mujahideen terrorist operations.

General Secord’s covert Mujahideen operation in the Caucasus initiated the military coup that toppled elected president Abulfaz Elchibey that year and installed Heydar Aliyev, a more pliable US puppet. A secret Turkish intelligence report leaked to the Sunday Times of London confirmed that “two petrol giants, BP and Amoco, British and American respectively, which together form the AIOC (Azerbaijan International Oil Consortium), are behind the coup d’état.”

Saudi Intelligence head, Turki al-Faisal, arranged that his agent, Osama bin Laden, whom he had sent to Afghanistan at the start of the Afghan war in the early 1980s, would use his Afghan organization Maktab al-Khidamat (MAK) to recruit “Afghan Arabs” for what was rapidly becoming a global Jihad. Bin Laden’s mercenaries were used as shock troops by the Pentagon and CIA to coordinate and support Muslim offensives not only Azerbaijan but also in Chechnya and, later, Bosnia.

Bin Laden brought in another Saudi, Ibn al-Khattab, to become Commander, or Emir of Jihadist Mujahideen in Chechnya (sic!) together with Chechen warlord Shamil Basayev. No matter that Ibn al-Khattab was a Saudi Arab who spoke barely a word of Chechen, let alone, Russian. He knew what Russian soldiers looked like and how to kill them.

Chechnya then was traditionally a predominantly Sufi society, a mild apolitical branch of Islam. Yet the increasing infiltration of the well-financed and well-trained US-sponsored Mujahideen terrorists preaching Jihad or Holy War against Russians transformed the initially reformist Chechen resistance movement. They spread al-Qaeda’s hardline Islamist ideology across the Caucasus. Under Secord’s guidance, Mujahideen terrorist operations had also quickly extended into neighboring Dagestan and Chechnya, turning Baku into a shipping point for Afghan heroin to the Chechen mafia.

From the mid-1990s, bin Laden paid Chechen guerrilla leaders Shamil Basayev and Omar ibn al-Khattab the handsome sum of several million dollars per month, a King’s fortune in economically desolate Chechnya in the 1990s, enabling them to sideline the moderate Chechen majority.21 US intelligence remained deeply involved in the Chechen conflict until the end of the 1990s. According to Yossef Bodansky, then Director of the US Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, Washington was actively involved in “yet another anti-Russian jihad, seeking to support and empower the most virulent anti-Western Islamist forces.”

Bodansky revealed the entire CIA Caucasus strategy in detail in his report, stating that US Government officials participated in,

“a formal meeting in Azerbaijan in December 1999 in which specific programs for the training and equipping of Mujahideen from the Caucasus, Central/South Asia and the Arab world were discussed and agreed upon, culminating in Washington’s tacit encouragement of both Muslim allies (mainly Turkey, Jordan and Saudi Arabia) and US ‘private security companies’. . . to assist the Chechens and their Islamist allies to surge in the spring of 2000 and sustain the ensuing Jihad for a long time…Islamist Jihad in the Caucasus as a way to deprive Russia of a viable pipeline route through spiraling violence and terrorism.”

The most intense phase of the Chechen wars wound down in 2000 only after heavy Russian military action defeated the Islamists. It was a pyrrhic victory, costing a massive toll in human life and destruction of entire cities. The exact death toll from the CIA-instigated Chechen conflict is unknown. Unofficial estimates ranged from 25,000 to 50,000 dead or missing, mostly civilians. Russian casualties were near 11,000 according to the Committee of Soldiers’ Mothers.

The Anglo-American oil majors and the CIA’s operatives were happy. They had what they wanted: their Baku–Tbilisi–Ceyhan oil pipeline, bypassing Russia’s Grozny pipeline.

The Chechen Jihadists, under the Islamic command of Shamil Basayev, continued guerrilla attacks in and outside Chechnya. The CIA had refocused into the Caucasus.

Basayev’s Saudi Connection

Basayev was a key part of the CIA’s Global Jihad. In 1992, he met Saudi terrorist Ibn al-Khattag in Azerbaijan. From Azerbaijan, Ibn al-Khattab brought Basayev to Afghanistan to meet al-Khattab’s ally, fellow-Saudi Osama bin Laden. Ibn al-Khattab’s role was to recruit Chechen Muslims willing to wage Jihad against Russian forces in Chechnya on behalf of the covert CIA strategy of destabilizing post-Soviet Russia and securing British-US control over Caspian energy.

Once back in Chechnya, Basayev and al-Khattab created the International Islamic Brigade (IIB) with Saudi Intelligence money, approved by the CIA and coordinated through the liaison of Saudi Washington Ambassador and Bush family intimate Prince Bandar bin Sultan. Bandar, Saudi Washington Ambassador for more than two decades, was so intimate with the Bush family that George W. Bush referred to the playboy Saudi Ambassador as “Bandar Bush,” a kind of honorary family member.

Basayev and al-Khattab imported fighters from the Saudi fanatical Wahhabite strain of Sunni Islam into Chechnya. Ibn al-Khattab commanded what were called the “Arab Mujahideen in Chechnya,” his own private army of Arabs, Turks, and other foreign fighters. He was also commissioned to set up paramilitary training camps in the Caucasus Mountains of Chechnya that trained Chechens and Muslims from the North Caucasian Russian republics and from Central Asia.

The Saudi and CIA-financed Islamic International Brigade was responsible not only for terror in Chechnya. They carried out the October 2002 Moscow Dubrovka Theatre hostage seizure and the gruesome September 2004 Beslan school massacre. In 2010, the UN Security Council published the following report on al-Khattab and Basayev’s International Islamic Brigade:

Islamic International Brigade (IIB) was listed on 4 March 2003. . . as being associated with Al-Qaida, Usama bin Laden or the Taliban for “participating in the financing, planning, facilitating, preparing or perpetrating of acts or activities by, in conjunction with, under the name of, on behalf or in support of” Al-Qaida. . . The Islamic International Brigade (IIB) was founded and led by Shamil Salmanovich Basayev (deceased) and is linked to the Riyadus-Salikhin Reconnaissance and Sabotage Battalion of Chechen Martyrs (RSRSBCM). . . and the Special Purpose Islamic Regiment (SPIR). . .

 

On the evening of 23 October 2002, members of IIB, RSRSBCM and SPIR operated jointly to seize over 800 hostages at Moscow’s Podshipnikov Zavod (Dubrovka) Theater.

 

In October 1999, emissaries of Basayev and Al-Khattab traveled to Usama bin Laden’s home base in the Afghan province of Kandahar, where Bin Laden agreed to provide substantial military assistance and financial aid, including by making arrangements to send to Chechnya several hundred fighters to fight against Russian troops and perpetrate acts of terrorism. Later that year, Bin Laden sent substantial amounts of money to Basayev, Movsar Barayev (leader of SPIR) and Al-Khattab, which was to be used exclusively for training gunmen, recruiting mercenaries and buying ammunition.

The Afghan-Caucasus Al Qaeda “terrorist railway,” financed by Saudi intelligence, had two goals. One was a Saudi goal to spread fanatical Wahhabite Jihad into the Central Asian region of the former Soviet Union. The second was the CIA’s agenda of destabilizing a then-collapsing post-Soviet Russian Federation.

Beslan

On September 1, 2004, armed terrorists from Basayev and al-Khattab’s IIB took more than 1,100 people as hostages in a siege that included 777 children, and forced them into School Number One (SNO) in Beslan in North Ossetia, the autonomous republic in the North Caucasus of the Russian Federation near to the Georgia border.

On the third day of the hostage crisis, as explosions were heard inside the school, FSB and other elite Russian troops stormed the building. In the end, at least 334 hostages were killed, including 186 children, with a significant number of people injured and reported missing. It became clear afterward that the Russian forces had handled the intervention poorly.

The Washington propaganda machine, from Radio Free Europe to The New York Times and CNN, wasted no time demonizing Putin and Russia for their bad handling of the Beslan crisis rather than focus on the links of Basayev to Al Qaeda and Saudi intelligence. That would have brought the world’s attention to the intimate relations between the family of then US President George W. Bush and the Saudi billionaire bin Laden family.

On September 1, 2001, just ten days before the day of the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks, Saudi Intelligence head US-educated Prince Turki bin Faisal Al Saud, who had directed Saudi Intelligence since 1977, including through the entire Osama bin Laden Mujahideen operation in Afghanistan and into the Caucasus, abruptly and inexplicably resigned, just days after having accepted a new term as intelligence head from his King. He gave no explanation. He was quickly reposted to London, away from Washington.

The record of the bin Laden-Bush family intimate ties was buried, in fact entirely deleted on “national security” (sic!) grounds in the official US Commission Report on 911. The Saudi background of fourteen of the nineteen alleged 911 terrorists in New York and Washington was also deleted from the US Government’s final 911 Commission report, released only in July 2004 by the Bush Administration, almost three years after the events.

Basayev claimed credit for having sent the terrorists to Beslan. His demands had included the complete independence of Chechnya from Russia, something that would have given Washington and the Pentagon an enormous strategic dagger in the southern underbelly of the Russian Federation.

By late 2004, in the aftermath of the tragic Beslan drama, President Vladimir Putin reportedly ordered a secret search and destroy mission by Russian intelligence to hunt and kill key leaders of the Caucasus Mujahideen of Basayev. Al-Khattab had been killed in 2002. The Russian security forces soon discovered that most of the Chechen Afghan Arab terrorists had fled. They had gotten safe haven in Turkey, a NATO member; in Azerbaijan, by then almost a NATO Member; or in Germany, a NATO Member; or in Dubai–one of the closest US Allies in the Arab States, and Qatar-another very close US ally. In other words, the Chechen terrorists were given NATO safe haven.

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Lazarus Taxon's picture
Lazarus Taxon (not verified) May 23, 2015 10:09 PM

The mofo's came from Angle Land.

Regardless.

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Lazarus Taxon (not verified) Lazarus Taxon May 23, 2015 10:19 PM

The Anglo Saxon has never been defeated!

What about William The Conqueror at the Battle of Hastings? 

HaHaHaHa! They always say that.

The Normans were entirely and totally commanded by Wiliam, grandson of a Ruler of Angle Land, and all of his officers were Anglos.

So the only Anglo Saxon defeat in HISTORY, was by Anglo Saxon.

The mercs that were paid to protect Rome for the last 3-600 years.

Save the world from stinky hairy brown holes, we shall.

 

dcohen's picture

His real name was William the Bastard, son of domesticated vikings.

Cityzerosix's picture

Here, in Hastings, England; the Battle has not yet ended.

Oh regional Indian's picture

What a fascinating read. Makes sense...

Money really makes people mad, mooney!

Mooooooney, anything for moooooney!

jeff montanye's picture

l.t.: anglo saxons once held hong kong (and controlled china) as well as south africa and kenya and india.  also all of ireland and egypt. ditto palestine.  you can't really call them anglo saxons can you?

CH1's picture

Gangsters telling the truth about gangsters.

Panopticon 131's picture

Too many forgot or never learn history and fewer can extrapolate what we learned from Antony Sutton and other researchers.  

The apex globalists are masters of N-dimensional chess, good cop vs. bad cop on the domestic and international stages. 

Think of it as Orwell's superstates meme, engineered and contrived conflicts between faux rivals to divide and conquer humanity.  

Meanwhile you are being fleeced and locked in to a prison planet.  Don't look here, look there!

Will you fall for it?  Pink Floyd, Us and Them.

Latina Lover's picture

I agree with most of your commentary, but do not always make the assumption that the global elites are united. The vast majority are psychopaths who would not hesitate to kill rivals and enemies.  Imagine a jar filled with spiders and scorpions and you may get the idea.

Joe Trader's picture

I'd like to see this guy's sources - because this whole article is said to be based on his soon to be released book - which doesn't tell us much.

SpiOpsChiwowwow's picture

Oh man I luv these CIA guys! Can anyone tell me, are they 'Duel-Passport holders"? You know. Do they celebrate passover?

Greyhat's picture

No. These guys were "fighting", known as the "new oligarchs", on the financial front! :)

 

unicorn's picture

 

@ joe

in his previous books you could track everything he writes.

Oh regional Indian's picture

The sequence set continues for anyone intereasted, Cajon, twist...

Sequence 22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xtJApsB4cA

TheReplacement's picture

Not only that but he didn't defeat an strictly anglic blooded king, he defeated a norse blooded king.

shovelhead's picture

Domesticated Vikings (Normans) against lesser domesticated Danish Vikings (Harold & Co.).

Then it was Norman cowboys against Anglo-Saxon indians getting put on the rez.

Deus Irate's picture

Folks can keep their white, neanderthal ancestry. I'll stick with the more evolved and BROWN Homo Sapien line. Hitler and his Viking (aka Neanderthal) predecessors were all part of a failed and inferior evolutionary "dead-end". So go ahead, die off then. See if I care. Just stop trying to take so many with you. Just go already.

macholatte's picture

 

 

With the former Soviet Union in total chaos and disarray, George H.W. Bush’s Administration decided to “kick ‘em when they’re down,” a sad error. Washington redeployed their Afghan veteran terrorists to bring chaos and destabilize all of Central Asia, even into the Russian Federation itself, then in a deep and traumatic crisis during the economic collapse of the Yeltsin era.

 

Sum Ting Wong

 After 1991 Gorbachev was gone and so was the Soviet Union. Then came Yeltsin (1991-1996) and then Putin.  The West had ample opportunity to “destroy” Russia under Yeltsin but didn’t. Instead it helped to rebuild it and created many of the Ruskie billionaires of today.

So why would there be covert operations to destabilize Russia during that period of time, it was imploding?

 

 

Kina's picture

why intefere with something already in chaos...better to get in on the ground floor..increase the chaos and crash.. and then try to control or own everything aka americn oligarch.  didnt work...russian warlords smarter and tougher than oligarch bankster.

 

 

macholatte's picture

 

One more thing........

Clinton was President 1991-2003 ... but the author didn't mention that. Maybe he forgot everything is not the fault of someone named Bush.

 

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PoasterToaster (not verified) macholatte May 24, 2015 12:25 AM

Left Right Left Right riGHT RIGHT.  Right?

Excursionist's picture

On this topic, who cares about false dichotomies?

Russia has been and continues to be a mafia state, and if another power like the U.S. undermines it, then great.

Think NSA data collection, civil forfeitures, militarized police, etc. are a problem in the U.S.?  Spend a few years in Russia and see if you feel the same.

Better yet, try exercising a right to carry a firearm while exercising a right to free speech by protesting in Red Square.  Maybe I'll see you in 20 years after you've worked off your sentence for "tax avoidance" or some such crap.

loonyleft's picture

maybe that's a private joke CENTRAL intelligence agency. 

illyia's picture

Research Bush's history. There is a difference, not only of generations but of locations, connections and experience.

GW Bush was not very good at it, but his predecessors were. GHW has some interesting connections in Germany as well.

skepsis101's picture

CIA, NSA, DOD, FBI, MIC, etc., etc., etc., don't follow a left/right, repub/dem paradigm.  Only control, power, money.  All the rest (like presidents and democracies) are pure facade.

Billy the Poet's picture

"Clinton was President 1991-2003 ... but the author didn't mention that. Maybe he forgot everything is not the fault of someone named Bush"

 

No, old man Bush was president from 1989-1993, Clinton from 1993-2001 and Bush Jr. from 2001-2009. Who's at fault? The public schools apparently.

macholatte's picture

 

Yes. I made a typo.

 

'But I don't want to go among mad people,' said Alice. 'Oh, you can't help that,' said the cat. 'We're all mad here.'

Lewis Carroll


 

Billy the Poet's picture

Now that you've reconsidered your typo you understand that some of the events which the author relates did, in fact, take place during administrations run by people named Bush and not just Clinton, right?

lordkoos's picture

Yeah but the Bush family is ahead, 2 to 1.

TweedleDeeDooDah's picture

Oh, it worked, or still is working... look at the place. "Something else" came up and they just stopped trying.

And if "russian warlords" were better than oligarch banksters, you'd never know looing at Russia today, and the kow-towing of the warlords to Putin in prostate deference today.

TheReplacement's picture

Did you not read?  There was a specific goal and that specific goal was accomplished. 

Flybyknight's picture

What have you been smoking Macholatte. The US did not help rebuild Russia although you are right it created the "wild west" situation that enabled many Russkie  Billionaires to pillage the population. America missed this oportunity to build Russia into a capitalist democracy that related well to its own people and to the outside world. Fortunately Putin arose and did this anyway. Unfortunately America is lead by arsehole fascists who do not give a shit about your everyday  Joe or Ivan and continue to behave as if they are saving the world from some imaginary communist threat. 

PhilofOz's picture

Oh come now, you think these Russians were self-made billionaires already at the finish of the Soviet Union? All of them, every last one of them, were backed by Rothschild money... and in my mind there is no doubt at all that they are still just front men and agents working on behalf of the Rothschild clan. 

Panopticon 131's picture

When the Russian economy was deliberately imploded in the 90s, none other than top international banking henchman Larry Summers (rap sheet: former Golman exec, Sec of Treasury, World Bank economist, Trilataralist, and principal spearheading the dismantling of Glass Steagall, etc.) was sent to advise the Russian ruling class on the privatization of the Russian peoples' state owned assets selling them for pennies on the dollar thus creating eight billionaire oligarchs with internationalist sympathies.

The fix was in.  Deep capture, final nail on the coffin that had been built when the Rothschilds and their underlings funded and supported the rise of the USSR.  

TPTB have ALL of us by the short hairs and have for a very long time.  Too many coups to count.

Billy the Poet's picture

the Rothschilds and their underlings funded and supported the rise of the USSR.

 

Sure, they were bankers but they were in Russia on behalf of the Red Cross. They had uniforms and little trucks and everything. If the good hearted actions of the bankers on such a bleak occasion doesn't restore your faith in humanity nothing will.

Panopticon 131's picture

When the Russian economy was deliberately imploded in the 90s, none other than top international banking henchman Larry Summers (rap sheet: former Golman exec, Sec of Treasury, World Bank economist, Trilataralist, and principal spearheading the dismantling of Glass Steagall, etc.) was sent to advise the Russian ruling class on the privatization of the Russian peoples' state owned assets selling them for pennies on the dollar thus creating eight billionaire oligarchs with internationalist sympathies.

The fix was in.  Deep capture, final nail on the coffin that had been built when the Rothschilds and their underlings funded and supported the rise of the USSR.  

TPTB have ALL of us by the short hairs and have for a very long time.  Too many coups to count.

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So why would there be covert operations to destabilize Russia during that period of time, it was imploding?

Loot, the Russia collapse was followed by an orgy of zionist looting, without the state collapse there would be no fire sale of "conveniently nationalized" Russian assets, or are we gonna pretend that 1 family of jews didnt end up with title to 90% of nationalized Russian assets?

Exhibit A Ukraine, Ukraine isnt about defanging Russia, its about looting and destroying Ukraine, Ukraine is scheduled for "diversification" including everybody but Russians and Ukrainians, primarily hostile poor  Muslim cultural refugees folded into the Muslim debt* mobtopia that is the EU.

Americans confused defanging Russia with looting zionists, Zionists are a far bigger threat than Communists ever were, they were the Commie core and bankers, Communism and Socialism were just beards for Zionist looting, part of a 10,000 years old proven strategy of nation looting and cultural annihilation with the alien mob their primary weapon.

*who owns the mob debt?  Who are the creditors?

 

The FNM folks.

 

 

jmc8888's picture

What?

We were the major cause of the implosion.  We looted and raped Russia via our puppet Yeltsin.

We didn't build anything, we tore Russia down. 

There were two collapses.

1. Soviet implosion

2. Western raping and looting

 

Russia doesn't believe in Western Economic Propaganda.  They've had their fill. 

Now they actually follow what we used to do, them and China.  They progress scientifically, infrastructure, i.e. REAL SHIT, while our side plays around with public austerity, wall street bailouts, derivatives, HFT, and all the statistical tricks to fake a recovery...and then some.

 

We destabilized Russia in any way we could.  We looted, raped, and sicked the terrorists on them...that's why Putin and Russia has always wanted to help with going after the terrorists.  Because it's the same network that was terrorizing his side.

But we don't want to go after terrorists.  We just want the public to think so, in reality, we are still sicking them on various countries...like Libya, Syria, and in a slightly different but similar tactic...Ukraine.

If we really want to stop this portion of the madness, join with Russia, go after the banks who hold and transfer these funds, and reign in the CIA/Saudi Arabia/MI6-UK.

Billy the Poet's picture
Bill Clinton President Boris Yeltsin laugh Uncontrollably  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdPuEqeG3Xw
Peconic Bay's picture

Thank you for bring a little common sense to this non-sensical post.  Two more important historical points that undermine this claptrap.  First, there has always been tension between Russia, a Christian country, and the Muslim world on its borders. Russia and the Ottoman Turks had many clashes over time that always highlighted the rift between the Christian and Muslem worlds. The same is true for Russia and Persia. It was a perfectly natural aspiration for Muslim Chechnya to want independence from Russia when in the early 1990s many of the old Soviet republics achieved the same. 

Secondly, and more to the point, that Osama Bin Laden was in league with Saudi intelligence and enlisted to further the aims of the CIA and US oil interests is just plain crazy. Bin Laden's life was dedicated to eradicating western influence in the region; a jihad to undo the results of Sykes-Picot from 1916.  If anything, he would have wanted to overthrow the Saudi monarchy which is an artifact of Britain's post WW1 policies in Arabia.

Billy the Poet's picture

Secondly, and more to the point, that Osama Bin Laden was in league with Saudi intelligence and enlisted to further the aims of the CIA and US oil interests is just plain crazy

 

I suppose that the recently declassified Pentagon document which says that the US and its allies have knowingly supported Al Qaeda in Syria specifically with the goal of creating an Islamic State in Iraq and Syria is also "crazy" in your opinion.

Well, the policy is crazy but it is what it is. You'd have to be crazy to deny its existence.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Pg.-291-Pgs.-287...

Peconic Bay's picture

"I suppose that the recently declassified Pentagon document which says that the US and its allies have knowingly supported Al Qaeda in Syria specifically with the goal of creating an Islamic State in Iraq and Syria is also "crazy" in your opinion."

The document you linked says no such thing.  It does highlight the risks attendant wtih Syria losing control of its eastern border with Iraq and that Islamic extremists (AQI and IS) are gaining strength as a result.  This is certainly confirmed by the facts on the ground.

Billy the Poet's picture

The document says that the West, the Gulf States and Turkey have supported Al Qaeda in Iraq and other Al Qaeda offshoots and that the goal is to create an Islamic State in an effort to subvert Iran, Russia and China. It says it in plain English and it's only seven pages long. Read it again.

 

THE SALAFIST [sic], THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, AND AQI ARE THE MAJOR FORCES DRIVING THE INSURGENCY IN SYRIA.

AQI SUPPORTED THE SYRIAN OPPOSITION FROM THE BEGINNING, BOTH IDEOLOGICALLY AND THROUGH THE MEDIA…

OPPOSITION FORCES ARE TRYING TO CONTROL THE EASTERN AREAS (HASAKA AND DER ZOR), ADJACENT TO THE WESTERN IRAQI PROVINCES (MOSUL AND ANBAR), IN ADDITION TO NEIGHBORING TURKISH BORDERS. WESTERN COUNTRIES, THE GULF STATES AND TURKEY ARE SUPPORTING THESE EFFORTS.

IF THE SITUATION UNRAVELS THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A DECLARED OR UNDECLARED SALAFIST PRINCIPALITY IN EASTERN SYRIA (HASAKA AND DER ZOR), AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SUPPORTING POWERS TO THE OPPOSITION WANT, IN ORDER TO ISOLATE THE SYRIAN REGIME…

scaffold's picture

You are right macholatte.

Russia was the weakest under the Yeltsin. Russia was on the verge of the total collapse. If CIA (or the like) wanted to destroy Russia it was the best time. But it was decided otherwise. CIA needed Russia, because as we know from teachings of the Orwell, there is always the need for the enemy.

So Putin entered the game. He was backed by the West. Yeltsin has never got good reputation on the West. Putin however very quickly became "good democratic president" of the new Russia. It was ridiculous from the beginning. It was Putin who murdered hundreds of journalists. It was Putin who ordered many atrocities in Chechnya. And everyone could see completely faked Russian elections, where Russian TV cant even add up to make 100...

Putin received really big help from USA. They cooperated in Georgia. Putin and USA created recent oil bubble. And so on.

Putin from the beginning was the puppet. Like Hussein. Like Gaddafi. Like Bin Laden. And like in the case of all of them, his time has ended. He has done what had to do. And is now useless.

Because the New Game is beginning. With new sort of puppets on political chessboard. New puppets in this big theatre for the masses.

Bokkenrijder's picture

Lot's of vague insinuations, but no concrete evidence. For example, what was the name of that Azeri airline?

silvermail's picture

Do you think that Britain today is not a colony of the United States?

bullxead's picture

By the way present ruler, and his killed father - Kadyrov clan - were allies with Basayev and al-Khattab in fight against Russian troops not long time ago. 

datura's picture

"By the way present ruler, and his killed father - Kadyrov clan - were allies with Basayev and al-Khattab in fight against Russian troops not long time ago." 

 

yes, but Putin convinced them to mend their ways and to follow him instead. And they did! Another sign of a great leader. Ramzan Kadyrov really loves and admires Putin, you can clearly see it in his eyes on the photos, where they stand together. Or when Putin had birthdays, Kadyrov had tens of thousands Chechens march to celebrate it, with Putin's face on their T-shirts:-) That is what so many Westerners still don’t understand, it would not have been possible to keep Russia intact and to prevent the disintegration continuously provoked by CIA without a strong leader, whom people follow (even muslims and most Chechens). The USA government hoped that Russia would fall apart, but they did not expect the rise of Putin, who stopped it. It must have been a huge disappointment for them and they knew it is a big problem already at the moment, when Putin became president for the first time. What I found most interesting is that many people did not expect Putin to become such a strong leader, he did not appear to be that kind of person at the first sight. And he himself never expected to have to play this role. Berezovsky (the former most powerful Russian oligarch, who had absolutely no reasons to praise Putin, because Putin threw him out of Russia and nationalized his property), admitted with surprising sincerity: "Putin did NOT aspire for power, it was me and others, who attempted to persuade him to become president and Putin finally accepted only after Yeltsin pleaded with him to take it."

 

http://www.sott.net/article/278407-Is-Putin-incorruptible-US-insiders-vi...

Silver_K-9's picture

Helps explain why Bin Laden was off'd in that "Murder Op"... Maybe he was about to talk and the NSA picked that up and Barry ordered the hit!?

Cityzerosix's picture

Strange how no-one gets a chance to speak. Saddam would also have had a lot to talk about.