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Greece Is On The Ragged Edge: Bloodied Idealogues Vs. Bloodthirsty Technocrats

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Submitted by Bruno de Landevoisin via StealthFlation.org,

On the grave Greek question, it appears that the moment of truth is finally upon us. After nearly four months of frenetic, fruitless and often feckless high level deliberations and negotiations, both sides remain essentially at an impasse, right where they started.  The technocrats in Brussels want to see their austerity driven reform program carried forward and implemented unconditionally.  As for the idealogues in Athens, they have pledged to put forth their own enlightened approach to rescue their sinking society.

The Technocrats hold the purse strings, but the Ideologues hold the heart strings.  For what it’s worth, that is typically a highly combustible combination, tick tock.  With their recent cocksure bravado, are the Technocrats entirely misreading the desperate determination of the Idealogues?  Get ready for yet another Euro Summer swoon………

Everyone agrees that Greece, under a corrupt political oligarchy, grossly abused its privileges as a Eurozone member.  In fact, with the help of a few sleazy sophisticated Goldman Sachs financiers, they actually cheated on their application forms in order to join the exclusive club to begin with. The illegitimate Ionian books were cooked from the get go, and it only got worse and worse over time. The self serving political elites and their self-seeking sponsors at multinational banks and corporations ran up a massive tab, while their ill-fated nation did not have the wherewithal to pay the astronomical bills.

That is essentially what happened here.  Oh, and the parties specifically involved all happened to personally get rather wealthy themselves along the way.

Check out the mess they left:

how much does Greece owe

Along with the privilege of leadership comes responsibility.  That clearly seems to have gone out the window here.

There can be little doubt that the predatory international banking institutions was clearly complicit, along with the disgracefully corrupt Greek politicians and high ranking government officials, as well as most of the Ionian elites at the highest levels of society in the near total abrogation of their financial responsibilities to their country. They completely failed the common man in this regard, who naturally assumed their leaders knew what the hell they were doing, and quite understandably counted on them for proper sustainable fiscal governance.

So, I have a simple question.  Why should the brunt of the demanded reforms fall on those least responsible for the mess, and most vulnerable?  Surely, the provincial woman on the streets of Athens pushing her Gyro cart up the steep hills of Kolonaki is far less responsible for the lamentable state of affairs her beloved country finds itself in, then those in the positions of leadership whom should have clearly known better.  Yet, today she is the one being asked to bear the burden of the terribly onerous predicament her Nation is suffering through.  Meanwhile, the bankers want more Euros, and no one is buying her Gyros.

Seems to me the wealthy Greek political class, the int’l financial establishment and the EU political leadership bear the lion share of the responsibility here.  Yet, instead of facing up to the mess they presided over and largely created, by putting forth workable resolutions to the debt death spiral effectively consuming Greece, what I have mostly witnessed over the past four months is that same establishment circling the wagons, doing everything in their power to delegitimize the SYRIZA leadership and further cripple their already stressed banking system.  I guess the best defense is a flat out offensive.  Is this what passes for inspired leadership in this day and age?

Moreover, do we really need to hear these “free market” frauds opine from the peanut gallery on the difficult matter at hand:

A Greek exit from the euro is just a matter of time and wouldn’t lead to the breakup of monetary union, former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan told Het Financieele Dagblad in an interview published Saturday. An exit could make the euro stronger, billionaire investor Warren Buffett said in an interview in the Euro-am-Sonntag newspaper.

I’m certainly no socialist, but if this is what today’s crony capitalism continues to spawn, I’m definitely no longer taking part.  A romantic quote from Jimi Hendrix’s comes to mind…….

“When the power of love overcomes the love for power, only then will the world change.”

When are we going to wake up?  It’s high time for honest enlightened free market capitalism! Enough of this crony capitalism crap already!   The entire financialized abominNation is a national disgrace.

As for me, I would be more than happy to see the cradle of democracy put the imperial autocrats and financial kleptocrats in their place, teaching them a thing or two about enlightened self governance.  Perhaps the ascent of Alexis Tsipras simply reflects the frustration of the everyday Greek citizen, completely fed up with their notoriously corrupt self serving political class oligarchy, the self seeking autocrats in Brussels and self interested banking elites that keep offering up the same poison pill to cure a lethal debt epidemic that they themselves were central to spreading around the globe in the first place.

 

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Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:30 | 6127650 Cognitive Dissonance
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The Greeks have fallen so far. And yet they have so far still to fall.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:35 | 6127656 kliguy38
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I'll gladly pay you tuesday for a gyro today

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:37 | 6127661 Wolferl
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Throw those pathetic Greeks out of Europe already.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:47 | 6127683 knukles
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No, I don't believe that "the technocrats in Brussels want to see their austerity driven reform program carried forward and implemented unconditionally."  I believe that they want to keep squeezing Greece for every last fucking drop of blood, eat the meat, suck the morrow, gnaw the organs and entrails and skullfuck the corpse for dessert, on behalf of their banking buddies, in spite of it being their (the EU's) own fucking fault for having let Greece in with doctored books and lies to which all were already fully cognizant  ... 

Only one thing left to do.  Blame the people, take away their self respect, money, property and freedoms

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:07 | 6127752 winchester
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when i look at NO script plugin on this page i feel like ZH is getting more.... u know...

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:48 | 6127844 Bumpo
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Its time for Greece to drop the Debt Default Bomb on the ECB. But they must start over, and will have the same problems they had before if its citizens don't pay their taxes. I hate to say it, but hard core rules need to be applied to survive, and if that means land confiscation of the deadbeats, so be it. On the other hand, Greece could try something really radical, and reduce government to nothing, and thrive as the only country in the mediteranean that encourages true captialism - easy permits, no taxes (since none are paying anyway), and the cheapest currency in the region for those to get the most out of their investments. Greece could be a thriving tourist destination in no time, as would Cuba if it was open and free.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:52 | 6127858 Wolferl
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So, you mean, if all the Greeks just leave Greece it could be a great place? Agreed.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 19:54 | 6127985 Escapedgoat
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Would you be willing to have them move over to Germany in some Camp, like the Good Od Times?

Or would you prefer the Albanians to move over there in wonderful Germany. (They supply 1st rate drugs, from the mothership Camp Bondsteel).

Do tell us

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 20:04 | 6128008 Wolferl
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I don´t think there´s much difference between Albanians and Greeks. I guess most Greeks are in fact Albanians with a foreskin.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 19:25 | 6127929 messymerry
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Hey winchester,

Yeah, you saw how fast FB got coopted by the TLAs and is now a honeypot for the fasco-corporatist state.  Well, ZH is following right along in their footsteps while at the same time enriching themselves immensely.  Welcome to the zerohoneyhedgepot... (dot dot dot)

;-D

Mon, 05/25/2015 - 12:49 | 6129604 knukles
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Yes, Winchester, I know.  Not unexpected now, is it really?

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 22:50 | 6128372 sumo
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"I believe that they want to keep squeezing Greece for every last fucking drop of blood, eat the meat, suck the morrow, gnaw the organs and entrails and skullfuck the corpse for dessert, on behalf of their banking buddies, in spite of it being their (the EU's) own fucking fault for having let Greece in with doctored books and lies to which all were already fully cognizant ..."

I believe the plan was to ignore at the obviously doctored books, and engineer a bankruptcy of Greece, so that all the valuable assets in the country - islands, ports, utilities, infrastructure, land - could be taken over by the Oligarchs at distressed prices.

And the Greek leadership at the time, with kickbacks safely stored in Swiss accounts, winked back, because, after all, IBGYBG.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:44 | 6127834 HenryHall
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>>> Throw those pathetic Greeks out of Europe already.

 

Even if that were desirable, there is no mechanism by which it could be done. So please stop spamming use with the same idiotic verbage.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:47 | 6127843 ebworthen
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Throw those pathetic central bankers, banksters, and greedy parasitic money-changers out of Greece already, and the rest of the world.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 19:01 | 6127870 Wolferl
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Yeah, c´mon Greeks, just do it.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:38 | 6127663 Headbanger
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Enough already

Just pull the plug on it

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:40 | 6127669 Timmay
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We have to bailout Greece to find out what's in Greece....

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:48 | 6127692 Harbanger
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Greece is doomed because just like the rest of the EU and US, it's run by lawyers and socialist academics.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 19:47 | 6127977 caconhma
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<Greece is doomed because just like the rest of the EU and US, it's run by lawyers and socialist academics.>

It is not true. The EU and US are run by the Zionist Central Banking Mafia. As for Greek people, these POS were enjoying for too long an affluent and parasitic way of life. Do you know that Greece has more Porsche cars per capita than any other EU country? This never lasts forever. It always comes to a crashing end!.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 19:07 | 6127886 Rubicon727
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Yes, they still have far to fall. Current polling in Greece STILL shows the majority want to remain in the EU.

Until and unless they fully comprehend the mess capitalism and their adherents got them into and denounce the EU, they shall continue to suffer.

Mon, 05/25/2015 - 09:10 | 6128983 doctor10
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the Greeks are entitled to run their country any damn way they want.

Its just that as part of the EU, their decisions have consequences to the other members. If anybody in the EU had an ounce of common sense and an honest bone in their body, Greece would never have been allowed to join, or politely asked to leave years ago

The fact that that hasn't happened yet speaks to the inherent criminality of intent in Brussels

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:36 | 6127658 SpiOpsChiwowwow
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When USSA gets like .this, move to Greece.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:39 | 6127666 williambanzai7
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Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:06 | 6127742 Escapedgoat
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I can only see reality here,

How about puting a noose around the neck of this motherfucker???

 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:43 | 6127675 CHC
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There is no bottom for Greece - everything is infinite - they'll keep on falling and falling until they - once and for all - stand up and tell the EU and all others to literally fuck themselves.  Greece is nothing more than a chew toy for the powers to be.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:45 | 6127682 Bossman1967
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And they can say no more at any time but like Ameica let the debt grow 500 billion what would we look like if thats all the USSA owed. Like Nancy Reagan said. JUST SAY NO and as Id say FUCK YOU TY

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:46 | 6127688 SpiOpsChiwowwow
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Strangely, I never see articles on ZH about how to become a gypsy.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:54 | 6127703 SpiOpsChiwowwow
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I do believe that most if not all of the comments are pre-positioned way before the article is ever released.

Meaning, we have a zombie staff right now....

Let's fight bitchez! They're gone!

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 17:55 | 6127712 q99x2
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By Zeus, issue the arrest warrents and start rounding them up.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:04 | 6127727 appocean
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"can't you just make one more payment".

repeat.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:05 | 6127738 Veriton
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The globalists are simply building tension before they move Greece over to the BRICS camp. It is part of their Evil West versus Good East stageplay. See the new updates: http://redefininggod.com/nwo-schedule-of-implementation/

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 23:06 | 6128417 janus
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nice to know someone else sees it.

fret not.  while the globalists were once brilliant tacticians and highly skilled analylists, they're now just worthless scions who've inherited the spoils of their progenitors' genius.  none of these faggots have worked a single day in their lives; they haven't a goddam clue as to the nature of man; they are consummate degenerates and have so far been insulated from the consequences of their folly by the incredible surplus stored away by the past masters.

gentlemen, the rumors are oh-so true.  the current masters of the universe are nearly all sexual deviants, soft & untested pantie-waists, possessed of just slightly above average intelligence and permanently intoxicated with unwarranted vanity.

it reminds me of a scene from the Bible.  i believe it was the babylonian king belshazzar...he was throwing a big-ole shin-dig for all the worthless scions who'd inherited the spoils of their progenitor's genius.

i'd tell the story, but Daniel chapter 5 does a far better job than janus could:

King Belshazzar  gave a great banquet for a thousand of his nobles and drank wine with them. While Belshazzar was drinking his wine, he gave orders to bring in the gold and silver goblets that Nebuchadnezzar his father[a] had taken from the temple in Jerusalem, so that the king and his nobles, his wives and his concubines might drink from them. So they brought in the gold goblets that had been taken from the temple of God in Jerusalem, and the king and his nobles, his wives and his concubines drank from them. As they drank the wine, they praised the gods of gold and silver, of bronze, iron, wood and stone.

Suddenly the fingers of a human hand appeared and wrote on the plaster of the wall, near the lampstand in the royal palace. The king watched the hand as it wrote. His face turned pale and he was so frightened that his legs became weak and his knees were knocking.

The king summoned the enchanters, astrologers[b] and diviners. Then he said to these wise men of Babylon, “Whoever reads this writing and tells me what it means will be clothed in purple and have a gold chain placed around his neck,and he will be made the third highest ruler in the kingdom.”

Then all the king’s wise men came in, but they could not read the writing or tell the king what it meant. So King Belshazzar became even more terrifiedand his face grew more pale. His nobles were baffled.

10 The queen,[c] hearing the voices of the king and his nobles, came into the banquet hall. “May the king live forever!” she said. “Don’t be alarmed! Don’t look so pale! 11 There is a man in your kingdom who has the spirit of the holy gods in him. In the time of your father he was found to have insight and intelligence and wisdom like that of the gods. Your father, King Nebuchadnezzar, appointed him chief of the magicians, enchanters, astrologers and diviners. 12 He did this because Daniel, whom the king called Belteshazzar,was found to have a keen mind and knowledge and understanding, and also the ability to interpret dreams, explain riddles and solve difficult problems. Call for Daniel, and he will tell you what the writing means.”

13 So Daniel was brought before the king, and the king said to him, “Are you Daniel, one of the exiles my father the king brought from Judah? 14 I have heard that the spirit of the gods is in you and that you have insight, intelligence and outstanding wisdom. 15 The wise men and enchanters were brought before me to read this writing and tell me what it means, but they could not explain it.16 Now I have heard that you are able to give interpretations and to solve difficult problems. If you can read this writing and tell me what it means, you will be clothed in purple and have a gold chain placed around your neck, and you will be made the third highest ruler in the kingdom.”

17 Then Daniel answered the king, “You may keep your gifts for yourself and give your rewards to someone else. Nevertheless, I will read the writing for the king and tell him what it means.

18 “Your Majesty, the Most High God gave your father Nebuchadnezzarsovereignty and greatness and glory and splendor. 19 Because of the high position he gave him, all the nations and peoples of every language dreaded and feared him. Those the king wanted to put to death, he put to death; those he wanted to spare, he spared; those he wanted to promote, he promoted; and those he wanted to humble, he humbled. 20 But when his heart became arrogant and hardened with pride, he was deposed from his royal throne and stripped of his glory. 21 He was driven away from people and given the mind of an animal; he lived with the wild donkeys and ate grass like the ox; and his body was drenched with the dew of heaven, until he acknowledged that the Most High God is sovereign over all kingdoms on earth and sets over them anyone he wishes.

22 “But you, Belshazzar, his son,[d] have not humbled yourself, though you knew all this. 23 Instead, you have set yourself up against the Lord of heaven. You had the goblets from his temple brought to you, and you and your nobles, your wives and your concubines drank wine from them. You praised the gods of silver and gold, of bronze, iron, wood and stone, which cannot see or hear or understand. But you did not honor the God who holds in his hand your life and all your ways. 24 Therefore he sent the hand that wrote the inscription.

25 “This is the inscription that was written:

mene, mene, tekel, parsin

26 “Here is what these words mean:

Mene[e]: God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it to an end.

27 Tekel[f]: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting.

28 Peres[g]: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.”

29 Then at Belshazzar’s command, Daniel was clothed in purple, a gold chain was placed around his neck, and he was proclaimed the third highest ruler in the kingdom.

30 That very night Belshazzar, king of the Babylonians,[h] was slain, 31 and Darius the Mede took over the kingdom, at the age of sixty-two.[i]

mene mene tekel parsin,

janus

 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:07 | 6127749 falak pema
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madhouse of statists who can't or won't count and frightened germans/eurobureaucrats now scared as shit that the Euro titanic has no lifeboats! 

If the WS/ECB stawk/bond beanstalks keep climbing the shithouse of fiat will keep sinking. Inequality will kill Jack on both sides of the pond.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:14 | 6127773 litemine
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How many will starve or get sick and DIE before their shackles are removed?

I fully believe this paragraph from above. 

As for me, I would be more than happy to see the cradle of democracy put the imperial autocrats and financial kleptocrats in their place, teaching them a thing or two about enlightened self governance. Perhaps the ascent of Alexis Tsipras simply reflects the frustration of the everyday Greek citizen, completely fed up with their notoriously corrupt self serving political class oligarchy, the self seeking autocrats in Brussels and self interested banking elites that keep offering up the same poison pill to cure a lethal debt epidemic that they themselves were central to spreading around the globe in the first place.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:16 | 6127776 VWAndy
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I see a lot of support for reality at 0.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:17 | 6127778 Wilcox1
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Its kinda like telling your trophy wife that she needs to stop spending so much money, find meaningful employment and help with the bills--It ain't gonna happen. Greece is a beautiful place. She will survive.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:58 | 6127795 Prober
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Hey, shit-for-brains socialist propagandist Bruno de Landevoisin, why don't you send YOUR money to help out your precious greek socialist parasite thieving defrauding comrades ????

Put YOUR money where your too-big mouth driven by your vestigal brain operates - post the receipt of your transfer of YOUR money to your greek comrades - this is how we will know that you are a true believer in the garbage that you write.

Mon, 05/25/2015 - 05:06 | 6128786 dreadnaught
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Probably because he knows that it would all end up in the hands of the Central Bankers-not to the Greek people, you shit for brains

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:30 | 6127805 jubber
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8cXSqB5j0M "Panic German Government"...

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:32 | 6127811 Joebloinvestor
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I call BULL SHIT.

The Greeks knew perfectly well how corrupt their government was.

That is why they didn't pay taxes.

Mon, 05/25/2015 - 00:45 | 6128589 CCanuck
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Do you and the people of your country know how corrupt it is?
What was your breaking point to stop it?

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:34 | 6127816 jubber
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how the fuck can all futures be bright Green? really !

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:35 | 6127819 Sudden Debt
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They won’t drop Greece.

Just watch.

Greece will become a protectorate of Europe under European rule.

And they’ll print money like hell to show other countries how wonderfull European rule is so they to will hand over power to Europe.

It’s all part of the European unification process where countries lose their self government.

And that is the goal of Europe starting from when it was created.

Everything is already in place.

 

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 19:56 | 6127991 shantyman
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Ahhhh yes all is in place.....except the ability to control independance...Turks, Persians, Alexander, Nazi's u name em....all walked passed moemvasia......so will the EU...

 

The corrupted governments/ and those that depend on them will suffer....but not those who have seen this for 1000's of years...

 

With your shield or on it Baby.....there are plenty, worldwide that still live by the code

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 18:35 | 6127822 Joebloinvestor
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This is what happens when they prosecute:

https://ph.news.yahoo.com/greek-ex-finance-minister-guilty-162700468.htm...

 

Whoop dee fucking doo.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 21:05 | 6128160 aminorex
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Some judges need guillotine.

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 20:12 | 6128021 KingdomKum
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molon labe mutherfuckers

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 20:13 | 6128024 kchrisc
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Zion has three choices on what to do with their Greek farm:

1) Let 'em go their own way, and into the hands of Russia and/or China.
2) Bail them out. Directly or indirectly.
3) Send in ZATO under some false pretenses (ISIS?).

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 20:39 | 6128086 Drain Bamage
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If i owe you 363 euros, I have a problem. 

If i owe you 363B euros, well - you know....

Mon, 05/25/2015 - 14:38 | 6130023 kchrisc
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Actually, with Zion's "printing" and grifting banksters it's:

If you owe them 363 euros, They own you.
If you owe them 363B euros, They own you more.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 20:43 | 6128100 fremannx
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Greece's new FinMin, Yanis Varoufakis, blames the U.S. for the state of global economies. He has a very interesting view of how the current global economic problems developed and why they continue to get worse instead of better. He use a mytholigical metaphor to explain,,, he calls it the Global Minotaur.

http://www.globaldeflationnews.com/the-global-minotaur-a-global-finance-...

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 20:58 | 6128139 nicxios
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Good posts get ruined when they keep alive false memes: "Goldman Sachs helped Greece cheat to get into Eurozone". Goldman Sachs deal with corrupt, inept Greek asshat leaders happened in 2002. Greece was accepted based on '99 figures, entered in 2001.

Mon, 05/25/2015 - 05:37 | 6128807 Firewood
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False memes? Do your homework before you exhonnerate the zio bean counter liars for the Greek $cam.

 

 

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-mach...

Sun, 05/24/2015 - 21:03 | 6128155 aminorex
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It is time for the Greek government to recognize the enormity of the evil they face, to declare war on Europe, and nuke Brussels. There can be no peace as long as such evil men have such power to do their evil works.

Mon, 05/25/2015 - 11:58 | 6129413 sirik
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So, I have a simple question.  Why should the brunt of the demanded reforms fall on those least responsible for the mess, and most vulnerable?  

 

Because they voted in favour for the monsters to get elected and to become their leaders ? 

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