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Israel Refuses To Pay Old Oil Debt To Iran
Submitted by Andy Tully via OilPrice.com,
Israel is refusing to comply with an order by a Swiss court that it pay $1.1 billion that it has owed to Tehran since before Iran’s 1979 Islamic revolution for its share of a jointly owned oil pipeline.
“Without referring to the matter at hand, we’ll note that according to the Trading with the Enemy Act it is forbidden to transfer money to the enemy, including the Iranian national oil company,” the Israeli Finance Ministry said in a statement.
The complex dispute stems from 1968, when Shah Reza Pahlavi ruled Iran. The Eilat Ashkelon Pipeline Co. (EAPC) was created as a joint venture between an Israeli company, Trans-Asiatic Oil Ltd. (TAO), which is registered in Panama, and the National Iranian Oil Co. to supply Iranian oil to Europe.
At that time, the oil was taken by ship to the Israeli port of Eilat at the northern tip of the Gulf of Aqaba. From there it moved through a network of pipelines to Ashkelon on Israel’s Mediterranean coast, then to the northern Israeli port of Haifa and on to European customers.
The National Iranian Oil Co. provided 14.75 million cubic meters of crude oil through the EAPC, earning $450 million for TAO.
With relations between the two countries now severed, EAPC now is the sole operator of more than 450 miles of the EAPC pipelines in Israel, according to the company’s website.
In its ruling, the Swiss court said the Israeli company hadn’t paid its share owed to Iran before its 1979 Islamic revolution for buying and shipping that country’s oil through an Israeli port, according to Iran’s Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA), quoting an “informed source” at Iran’s Presidential Center for Legal Affairs.
Before Iran’s revolution, it and Israel were allied against the Sunni Muslim Arab nations in the region, who bridled against both the presence of a Jewish state in the Middle East and against Iran, a country that predominantly adheres to rival Shi’a Islam.
Now Iran and Israel are sworn enemies, with Tehran providing billions of dollars in military and financial aid to groups aligned against Israel, including Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza.
After the revolution, when Iran made clear its enmity to the Jewish state, Israel expropriated all Iran’s assets in its territory. That included effectively nationalizing the pipeline.
Iran responded with three international arbitration suits in both Swiss and French courts not only for what it said were billions owed for Israel’s operation of the pipeline, but also for other expropriated assets.
The IRNA report says the Swiss court’s ruling involves only Iran’s delivery of the 14.5 million cubic meters of crude as part of the old joint venture.
At first, in 1989, the court ordered TAO to pay $500 million, which included interest, to Fimarco Anstalt, a subsidiary of the National Iranian Oil Co. registered in Lichtenstein before the 1979 revolution.
That ruling was put on hold, however, because of a dispute over issues including the amount of interest owed. IRNA reports that the latest ruling brings an end to that case. According to the court, Israel's liability includes not only the $1.1 billion for its share in EAPC, but an additional $7 million to cover Iran’s legal fees.
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Oh this one is too easy.
I wonder how much of Trans-Asiatic Oil Ltd. Benjamin Netanyahu owns. Normally, the next legal step is that the funds be put in an escrow account while the fund transfer to Iran is blocked by international law. Israel will never pay this judgment. Israel is now ruled by goniffs no different than the Nazi looters of 75 years ago.
Oh FFS!
Sincerely, f_s
I don't suppose this would having anything to do with their eagerness to bomb the hell out of Iran (or have the US do it). Actually probably not - if they had to pay they'd just get the money from the US one way or another.
Greece should declare the IMF, the World Bank, and the EU its enemies
I guess no one needs to pay back any Jewish-run banks either, then
So...we shouldn't bother asking Israel for 9-11 damages?
I see no valid reason the tax serfs of the US cannot make the payment for Israel.
I have decided to unilaterally declare all forms of kikery to be crimes against the rest of humanity. So be it written. //End Referendum.
Preface: not a fan of Iran or Israel.
“Without referring to the matter at hand, we’ll note that according to the Trading with the Enemy Act it is forbidden to transfer money to the enemy, including the Iranian national oil company,” the Israeli Finance Ministry said in a statement
hey dumbass Israeli Finance Minister... you weren't Enemies when Israel stole the money from the Iranians.
It's honest enough to want the money back, with interest.
The Iranians knew they were dealing with dishonest people.
It's not like it should be any surprise to them.
Try getting money out of a money changer
Jesus tried.
Amazing, is it not? The only time He ever was violent. That alone is sufficient proof for me that He is divine. You can not make that shit up.
"Oh this one is too easy."
Certainly living up to the "cheap jew" stereotype lol
It's a fine stereotype. Russians and Scots are cheap too but they don't go replacing my civilization with ooking shitheads and glorifying every last degenerate angle possible. Thus Russians and Scots aren't universally reviled throughout history.
Yes, but neither of them has an officially perpetuated cosmological/world-view* that proclaims them as Kings of the World, and everyone else is to kiss their ass and do their bidding.
* I.e., no Deity-backed decree, no Guy-in-the-Sky (mythological or extra-terrestrial) Big Shot of the Galaxy backing. It's all self-proclaimed claim to Chosen or Specual Status and involves the "Jedi Mind Trick", which clearly works amazingly well on Sheeple. Many of whom are right here on ZH.
The entire point of arbitration is that the parties to a contract agree in advance to settle any disputes in an agreed upon fashion, the legal strategy of the dishonorable thieving shysters in Israel has been to avoid doing that which they obligated themselves to do under the contract, i.e. NAME THEIR OWN ARBITRATOR to the panel so that an proceeding could commence, which they were destined to lose, and now have. It's not about being "cheap" - it's about being a dishonorable and untrustworthy partner, and the State of Israel is doing Jews no favor by feeding into that stereotype. They need to pay. Neither the US nor Israeli trading with enemies acts (statutory laws) actually prevents the sovereign from fulfilling its treaty obligations.
http://www.swlegal.ch/getdoc/.../2013_Nathalie-Voser_Anya-George_Swiss-Supreme-(1).aspx
A Greek and a Jew walk into a bar...
'Stereotype' is a politically correct expression for folklore, which in itself is oral tradition.
Hedge accordingly.
Yeah, this story has to be a plant to identify all the anti Semites running around. Might end up as a story on 60 minutes so we can all feel bad and wring our hands over how bad another special interest group is being treated. Next story, Gay Community Big Supporter of Broadway Plays.
Isreal to Iran: Go fuck yourself, goy!
Israel isreal.
Israel means, "he fights against God."
You guys never listen to my comments on these israil joo cunts.
my response would be fuck you all come and get it
Have you washed your foreskin in your 3 weeks 5 days here on the Hedge?
Fucking Hasbara pretending to be a wetback. Nice.
I thought the cut off was about 50-60 years but it seems to be getting shorter and shorter
Iran: you give us 2 nuclear warheads and we write off the debt.
Israel: let me directly discuss this with John Kerry.
Israel: Stand by. Ok, we agree. They're in the air now.
hey, I'd be only too glad to hold it in escrow
Nuke em. Fuck em. Tired of their endless shit. Nuke em.
Israel or
Iran?
The one that is constantly caught stealing of course. Don't need'em.
Unfortunately they are in the same situation as Americans. The government is far more savage and bloodthirsty than the people.
Ringo's quote about everything government touches turning to crap applies to the public also.
Ever see one of those shows about hoarders?
Seemingly normal people that collect mountains of junk. They live their lifes in toxic waste pits surrounded by piles of garbage that they treasure. Most of these people live in personally constructed fire traps. The only reason it gets that bad is because of the person that owns that hoard of garbage. It's their security blanket, which is to be surrounded by junk that has some mental hold on them. The thing is forcing the situation doesn't fix them. Because it's just known that once the person is cleaned up by any external intervention, they'll just make another rats nest because the issue isn't the junk. It's the person with the false sense of security they derive from owning all that crap under the false assumption it means anything.
Up to these people to let it go and move on, their disease is internal and so is their cure. They allow it to happen and it's not a stretch to understand why it happens. They like stuff more than comfort. They like making their own problems. In fact politically both nations are proud of making their own problems. So who's problem is that?
Not mine. Not your's. Fuck'em. They want to get carried away, let them. Just get out of the way.
Just guessing why Isreal is soo ... Not too popular nowadays
You know once I would have cared, maybe lent a hand. Couple of things changed that. Fuck'em, let them burn.
First take back the billions of dollars of military equipment the US gave Israel.
Then allow Iran to buy about 200 modern tactical nukes from Russia.
Then see if Israel wants to strut its stuff.
No need to choose.
They'll nuke each other soon enough.
Dup
Yes Nuke Israel and this act will terminate all the wars in the Middle East .
You need to get the saudis too
FARGING WAR!
You shouldn't hang me on a hook, Johnny ...
Seriously? Iran: "You don't have the right to exist... unless of course you owe us money. In that case, PAY UP!"
Just make the payment contingent on Iran publicly asserting Israel's right to exist. A similar precondition should have been put on any imperial talks between Emperor Obama and Iran, but that would never happen because NEITHER believes in Israel's right to exist.
Jews (by birth and adopted) are the most persecuted minority of all.
Rhodesia has a right to exist!
Aparteid South Africa has a right to exist!
The three are a set. You either support all of them, or you oppose all of them. They have/had the same policies.
Or maybe Jews have a magic word they can say that makes makes it ok for them but not for others?
Not perfect analogies, but I get your point.
I for think there was nothing wrong with Rhodesia or South Africa. They were solid countries with functioning governments and sound fiscal policies and monetary systems. That is until they were utterly destroyed from without.
Rhodesia and South Africa never invaded their neighbors except when attacked by communist militias operating out of bases just across their borders. Israel on the other hand constantly provokes war against it's neighbors and manages to strangle international politics across the globe. Rho. & SoAf. pretty much kept to themselves.
Let me make this perfectly crystal clear: YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO!
You're saying that there is some moral equivalence between the racist policies of South Africa and the self-preservationist policies of Israel. If you believe this, you are eating the communist bullcrap with two hands and a bun. The PRIMARY fact is that the middle east would be AT PEACE if all the war-mongering antisemitic fascists (Like Germany, France, and the current U.S. prez) would just agree that, "Yeah, the Jews should probably be allowed to live!"
You can't accept this. You keep repeating lies like "Rothschilds!" and think you have any credibility. The longer you think these EEEEeevil JOOOOoos control the world, the longer you will stay poor. Which is what they (the statists) want anyway. So good for you.
Your argument is an example of the fallacy of moral equivalence. You argue for the genocidal extermination of a people (and by extension, their state). I disagree with you. God will judge us both accordingly.
A_latvian, -- man you just shit your pants and grossed me out too.
Thank you for proving my point.
Or Iran could just forgive the debt on the condition israel does not murder any more Palestinians.
Or iranian scientists even.
touché
Too hard. Make it "in the next 12 months." Hold the money in escrow essentially as the stakes for an all-or-nothing bet.
Easy money (unless you're a murderer.) Free publicity if you win.
If you're Iran, you're not gonna get their money either way. Might as well get something out of it.
Israel does NOT murder Palestinians.
Where does any country get the right to exist?
Did Israel have a right to exist prior to 1947? The USA before 1788? Does a kingdom or country that existed a thousand years ago have a right to exist now?
Rights are fictions, they are made up. Live with it.
Individuals have rights institutions do not.
I prefer the axiom of self-ownership but enacting your idea would make things much better than they are.
Self ownership seems to confuse some folks. Ask them "Who owns you?" and they don't know what to say. But the natural right to not be abused or ripped off is something folks understand. And that right is a natural part of an individual just as a nose or an arm or a toe is a natural part of an individual. You can see it in the look on a child's face when another child hurts him or takes his things.
The real trick is convincing folks that they must actively ensure their own rights rather than to simply accept the so-called "civil" rights doled out by the state.
Rights do not exist. They are a human fiction. The term is an ambiguous linguistic trick because everybody pussy-foots around morality.
Human action is more accurately described from the perspective of the agressor. Instead of saying that people have "rights" your argument is more solid --- i.e., leaves less to debate --- if you say that agressors should expect their victims to defend themselves. Thus, you are controlling your end of the argument by accurately describing what "rights" mean from an observational standpoint.
Bronze Rule: Do not do not do business with assholes.
Rights of Natural Law absolutely exist. They are guaranteed by Nature and Nature's God, and are the foundation of civilization.
Abandoning the nature derived concept of might makes right is the only foundation of civilization.
Israel already does exist. Its Palestine that is getting exterminated.
A latvian - you are here merely 50 years too late man...
Are you up there in the midnight kingdom all that brainwashed? Or is the 5 bucks/day for trolling good job in country with 20% unemployment and all the young people washing toilets and doing blowjobs in germany and in UK?
Wow. -53 to +8! That's got to be a record.
Never has the majority been so wrong... well maybe in 1861.
Place it into overnight interbank interest earnings.
i'm sure if it was the other way around the U.S. would be only too happy to freeze Iranian assets to satisfy the debty
Iran banks are not apart of the central banking system. Thats why the jew media keeps repeating the story about we are 10 seconds until Iran has a bomb. Its gone on for about 27+ years.
See the Responsibility is spread around so far and wide NO ONE can be held responsible for the policy.
This is a trick used by the US Federal Government and TBTF Banks on Wall Street.
"We didn't personally make the decision and couldn't know about it to do anything but follow the old system"
- Yeah, so probably not only a bunch of people in Israel & USA & UK & NATO, but many others made the decision in the UN Security Council
HSBC can double down with private deposit holdings.
Zion is a civilization based on plunder--Grifters.
If they were to pay this debt, then they would undermine their civilization.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
C'mon, Uncle Sholmo would be more than happy to cover it. What? US "sold" the dreadful few $2 bilion in arms?
What a sick joke.
Way too easy....iam not going to take the Lox Bait
We only have 5 seconds before they create a bomb. /sarc
I'm confused about this article. What jurisdiction does a Swiss or French court have over Iran or Israel (it's not the World Court) especially after the pipeline was nationalized? Have other countries who have nationalized companies and/or industries (Mexico, Cuba, Zaire, etc.) been forced to provide remuneration to the offended parties?
one would assume that the European courts must have decided they had jurisdiction, otherwise why hear the case.
Talk to the United Nations Security Resolution hand.
They think their mousey voice has cloud. Just wait until their blue helmets hit our shores. It will be like a afternoon of skeet. Pull!
Money and trade from Iran and Israel organizations goes through other countries. These countries must display some sort of impartiality to attract the business of competing parties. A party has a problem it takes it to the court of Swiss or whatever. Swiss courts use reason, find Israel owes Iran money. If Israel wants to keep doing business with Swiss, Israel must pay up.
The whole concept of jurisdiction is a fiction.
What matters is that somebody, somewhere looked at something out in the open. The public can see it if they want. The research for the legal/professional arguing is done for anybody else to re-argue in the future.
Iran should pay the child support outfits in California for collecting from Israel. They will get it then.
Jews
KIKE roaches
Kke roaches are TAKERS , not givers, and if they give anything it always has ulterior motives.
Why do you think they have been so hated throughout history?
They think they are above any laws and better than other people.
Refreshing .... we didn't owe anything to the Norks .... but, Carter gushed nuclear fuel rods .... I prefer the Israeli approach .... the austerity of Auschwitz !
This is kind of an old story.
Just a rumor, and I cant substantiate but it makes sense (to me) that Iran is still selling oil to Israel.
Much of what we read is just noise while business goes on. It wouldnt surprise me too much if the jews tried to sell Iran a small nuke, or even set off one of theirs in-country to provoke action against Iran.
Jews will never change and become human beings until every last one of them is DEAD.
Then they will become human ? Are you a Muslim Dutch Boy ?
NO I am atheist.
What the USA should do is do some preemptive shock and awe on Israel. About 3 big nukes on Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
The world will rejoice.
Allahu Akbar ?
Hey , dumbo, Israel need not worry about Muslims , Its us atheists that will nail them in the end.
Yes, Hitler was an atheist. But he lost. So will your sorry ass.
Hitler was Christian
All you fucking Buybull thumpers will lose in the end because its a fairytale.
Monetas.,
Do you enjoy making a fool out of yourself?
So anyone who is against Israel is a Muslim?
You are a fucking retard and prove it with every comment
Well, at least this is consistent with their historical attitudes, behaviors, actions, and the direct teachings of the Rabbis, Talmud, and Torah.
Jewish Talmud
* What a Jew steals from a ‘goy’ he may keep.” (Sanhedrin 57a)
* “If a Jew finds an object lost by a ‘goy’ it does not have to be returned.” (Baba Mezia 24a)
* “If a Jew murders a ‘goy’ there will be no death penalty.” (Sanhedrin 57a)
* “Jews may use subterfuges to circumvent a ‘goy.’” (Baba Kamma 113a)
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=156
“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel.
“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat,”
http://www.timesofisrael.com/over-800000-pack-jerusalem-to-mourn-yosefs-...
http://davidduke.com/largest-funeral-in-israeli-history-for-gentile-hati...
http://davidduke.com/all-jewish-supremacists-united-in-mourning-death-of...'
The Quran plagiarized the Talmud !
More retarded bullshit from the resident RETARD.
@RagnarRedux
+1000
Isreali's can use their children as human shields to advert payments.
Nothing better than sending back your same media dialog.
nothing changes
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=af3qZRtaAAM
Dear Israel redheaded step child, we aren't going to bail you out. Pull up your own boot straps.
Who else but a Jew can get stupid Goyim to pay 5 bucks for a cup of coffee (Howard Schultz) CEO of Starbucks.
But wouldn't Israel really be paying Iran with the money the US gives them anyway ?
This is not about coffee. Much more sinister.
if it were the other way around those Jew PIGS would be all over Iran like stink on shit.
Begin the research.
http://knoema.com/WBJEDH2015/joint-external-debt-hub-2015?country=100108...
Are you completely serious here? In the age where no one pays their debts and honor has long since been suppressed for the world wide banking cartel are we really going to say, "Oh sure Isreal owes them from 4 or 5 decades past". WTF. It took them this long to collect? Dont get me wrong honor is sorely lacking in this world at the moment and things will not likely get much better until we readopt it as a way of life but this is pure crap.
The fucking Jews whine about everyone owing them for the Holocaust. They are still chasing 95 year old prison guards.
They are the most evil psychopaths on earth.
Pure slimy SNAKES.
I guess all you have to do is define your bank as the enemy, refrence this law and tell them you are unable to pay your debts.
THE TYLER'S
BOTTOM TROLLING
BLAMING WORLDS PROBLEMS ON JEWS AGAIN
IT"S CALLED PROJECTING YOUR OWN CRAP ON OTHERS
Jews ARE the instigators of most wars.
Now fuck off, you son of a bitch.
hey are you the resident KIKE troll?
Jews were behind both WW's and funded both WW's.
Beat it KIKE roach,.
just sport. jews have the thinnest skin of all humans and the weakest character. it is too easy to incite them into an ad hominen diatribe of usually nonsensical arguments with a shrill tone that renders the disturbed one a fool, like shooting fish in a barrel, great mindless mental entertainment.
fn jews. gotta love em.
Walk into a mosque with an hilariously drawn caricature of Mohammed. Walk into a synagogue with an hilariously drawn caricature of Moses.
See which one you walk alive out of before you start babbling about Jews being thin-skinned...
Walk into a Christer church with a photo of Jesus sucking off Peter calling him the first homo and see what happens to you.
I went to a homeless shelter and left that picture you took of your mother sucking me off. You'll be finally getting some daddy figures coming around your house that you haven't had your whole life. Not having a daddy makes you hate Jesus. You're welcome.
I don't hate Santa, the EAster Bunny or Jesus. all fictional characters.
A. My mother died in 1954 when I was 8 years old.
B. My father passed away in 1981.
C. You are a true retard.
That is low.
I personally know tons of bastards who are devout God fearing people. Both of my grandmothers were widowed at a very young age. Neither of my parents knew their fathers. Both of them were insanely pious people ---- their love for Jesus was the only thing that kept them together. Lord knows they were a match made in purgatory! but they sacrificed and stuck it out for their kids.
<< Not having a daddy makes you hate Jesus. You're welcome.>>
and then one shows up. thanks for making my day.
By now, for those of us who travel, and are friendly, open minded and have an listening ear, the people whom I have met who are arabs have invited me to share meals with them, in their homes and restaurants. I have spent weekends staying in an Iranian professor's home with his wife and sister-in-law, was neighbor to an Iranian man and his wife, and they were all very kind and generous. However, I have never been invited into a Jewish home for dinner. On tours/cruises, there were many and while I would like to say they were friendly and kind, it simply is not the case. Whining, complaining, blaming, bitching is their course of conversation. And they ruined a $10,000 2 week tour of Europe for both me and my husband for this very reason. Spoiled brats who actually call their daughters princesses (JAP) and exude a superiority complex that is an affront to reasonable people. One couple refused to go into their room because accomodations were not perfect. Wine had to be replaced due to some ingredient which 1 (ONE) woman out of 60 could not tolerate (tanins or some such bullshit).
My advice: Deprogram and grow the fuck up.
I too have been invited for dinner with muslims. However, my neighbors are jewish and the old guy loves Christmas cake. We get along fine. I have been to their place for dinner and it was great. I would go again.
I spent the vast majority of my life as a devout Catholic who believed that the Vatican was God's voice on earth. I have only recently deprogrammed myself from the statism of my faith. Many devout non-Catholic Christians told me that the devil was in my church but I did not pay attention. I now believe they are right. I see no reason to be prejudiced against either Jew or Greek for he to deserves the benefit of the doubt I once got.
Topics of religion, sex, money and politics were once avoided due to obvious reasons. Religion has nothing to do with how we treat one another. But if one is defined by their religion and little else, and that goes for all the religions, it becomes a disorder.
israel has become the caricature of all the antisemitic stereotypes we have all been told are antisemitic. so it is antisemitic to call jews on the character of the country that claims to be the leader of jews. what a whiny bunch of walking stereotypes.
That's odd to see Israel not wanting to pay their fair share
in a deal, eh. Who-ed-A-thunk it after all these years of benevolence over lands in the occupied territories?
israel is only based on a x time amended story book.
Its a big hoax book written by Jews to make themselves the chosen and amended with the Jesus story to control the Gentiles.
Notice that Jews don't believe that bullshit because they made it all up.
http://albainternazionale.blogspot.it/2015/05/la-sinistra-al-potere-in-e...
Etiopia.
"Jews (by birth and adopted) are the most persecuted minority of all."
Sadly, that is true. But I don't think Israel's government's decision in this case is any helpful to change that. As are, by the way, some of their other recent decisions and acts.
Bullshit . WHY do you think they are persecuted? because they are liars, thieves, manipulators and deceivers.
Ancient Polish proverb ''The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you''.
They are professional victims and thats their 'schtick'' to get ahead.
Bullshit . WHY do you think they are persecuted? because they are liars, thieves, manipulators and deceivers.
Ancient Polish proverb ''The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you''.
They are professional victims and thats their 'schtick'' to get ahead.
Not to worry....israels mommy and daddy (the U.S) will pay it for you. Dont cry ya spoiled lil fuchs, we will pay all your bills, give you weapons, and we will even pay your insurance. Hagee has millions in this sick trance, so you will be fine...Israel, the Rothchild design to create havoc in the middle east, divide and conquer, destroy history so that the rothchilds can write their own history. And they are patient. They just hand over the plan to thier brainwashed kids and grandkids.
So that's it?
IT JUST WANTED TO CANCEL ITS DEBT WITH IRAN, VIA THE "TRADING WITH THE ENEMY" SCAMBOLA.
look for the Knesset and Noodleyoo-hoo to declare war on some of Israel's biggest lenders for kosher debt cancellation.
Hey Bibi, you can keep the change.
Good on Israel for giving the Swiss the finger.
With the matter of the 100 denarii settled, the Israelis might have gone on to ask the Swiss when the Swiss banksters planned to cough up the 10,000 talents, in the form of the Jewish gold the Swiss have been sitting on these seventy years.
Iran can have their billion pieces of Fed-confetti when Israel gets that USD500 billion the banksters still owe them in pieces of gold and silver.
Was Israel around in 1945?
The modernState of Israel, no. The people of Israel, yes.
People of Israel and it didn't exist?
So they were stateless, good for them.
No one is surprised that this story would bring out all the Jew haters at ZH. Such is why Bertold Brect warned us not to congratulate ourselves to much for defeating the monster in 1945. "For the bitch who bore it is already in heat.". Congrats on being the predicted spawn!
Do you have PMS? Heal nerves.
I dont hate jews, but I strongly dislike the rothchild zionists who are creating death, hatred, lies, deceit, environmental castraphoes, etc etc.....They control israel, the U.S. and other western countries. Its interesting for me to think the lesser of all the evils out there is Putin. Not a big fan, but if I was forced to choose, I would take Putin over about anyone..
And the book of Revelations says "those that call themselves jews are not really jews"....You should look it up, the rabbit hole is very interesting.
We hate cheaters. If you happen to be a jew who cheats, consider yourself included. That so many jews cheat their way to the top only reveals the obvious - It's a plague of sorts, and must be eradicated somehow because - fair is fair. Don't ask us to accept your low road to success when we are forced to do without by taking the high road. You flatter yourself.
What a douche bag. The vast majority of the Jews slaughtered by the Nazis were eastern European peasant villagers who were at most shop keepers and farmers who kept to themselves after enduring decades of pogroms at the hads of the Poles and Russians as well as centuries of condemnation as "Christ killers". Profound ignorance and blind hatred, the hallmarks of and old evil reborn.
Holocaust was an inside job. Jews have no problem sacrificing their own (by the millions) to make a point. Of course, there are good Jews. But until they stand up and demand the Bad Jews stop the rape and pillage, as they are a minority and an exclusive cult, the burden falls on even their shoulders. Do you know what it is like to be tricked? Have you even taken a woman out and wined and dined her and then, at the end of the date, she "has to get up early" and parts ways with a peck on the cheek, never to see her again? When you realize you just spent 4 hours and 100 bucks for nothing because, really, you had hoped for more?
Promoting gluttony, dereliction from normal, preying on the weaknesses of man, ,distracting him with smut while you rob his house is what happened in Germany. Trickery is a business plan for Jews. Deny to your grave if you wish, but that is the sad truth, and it is done with contempt. There is a manual.
I have a great idea for everyone here in ZH... except me, cuz I don't have any credit cards, and deal in fiat any more. But for the rest of you...
Accept every credit card offer you get for the next 6 months.
Charge them up to their maximums to buy gold, silver, bullets, weapons, seeds, garden equipment and so forth.
Put everything in a mini-container and ship to your favorite location "outta dodge".
Declare the credit card companies "terrorists" for creating fiat, fake, fraud, fiction, fantasy, fractional-reserve debt-laden toilet-paper out of thin air.
Then refuse to pay your non-debts because "they are terrorists, and it is forbidden to pay terrorists".
Hell, this kind of approach can work on just about anyone.
See how the federal reserve and their flunkies like this.
If they object, point out that a favored nation certified this technique. Except, of course, you won't hear from them, because you'll be long gone (and smart enough not to bring your previous identity with you).
I had a pretty shitty long weekend (It's a bank holiday Monday here), but that got a rare smile out of me. It's a good idea for young people and those with little to lose I guess. If I wasn't so tied down to my life here and my own stupid ethos about being a decent person (I can't bring myself to commit theft/fraud, even on those who do it wholesale), I may have considered it.
I do envy the fact that you no longer have any credit cards or deal with fiat. Not sure how on earth I would be able to travel anywhere without them.
I must admit, I too did not cross a great many lines that were perfectly ethical and moral to cross, in the process of getting outta dodge, and setting up my self-sufficient digs. Sometimes I wish I could identify the cream of the cream of the cream of the crop and invite them to join me out here in the gorgeous, peaceful boonies where I live. But I know I can't predict individual human behavior (aggregate behavior is vastly easier).
BTW, you know what happens when you multiply zero by anything? You get zero. And since fiat IS zero, no matter how much you grab from those who create it and fleece the world with it, you have stolen ZERO... which means, nothing. Of course, you would never want to steal zero from regular folks who worked for the fiat zeros they have, but here we are talking about those who create zeros out of thin air. This might scare you, but you should definitely not feel any ethical or moral concerns (knowing what I know you know).
Well, cash still works. But I've found that gold and silver coins work amazingly well outside the USSA. Almost never do sellers refuse to accept my coins for their goods and goodies, and that includes sellers all over the southern hemisphere. Well, I haven't been ALL over the southern hemisphere, but at least from islands in the south atlantic ocean to the west coast of australia.
If you have $100K to spare, get yourself a nice little new light sport aircraft like from pipistrel, and i'll teach you how to fly the sucker (easy). But you need to get your butt down here to the south, because I'm never going back up north. I've been to 18 fictitious nations in my little airplane so far, all without visa, passport, permission or filing any flight plan (though I always make my own plans, including at least plans B and C). To own a tiny, super-efficient carbon-fiber airplane is like taking off a big huge ball and chain that you've lived with your entire prior life.
I've always been able to refuel with gold and silver coins. And that's damn good too, because most of my landings are on remote islands in the south pacific. Well, "remote" applies to most islands (and "island groups") in the south-pacific, though my airplane does have great range due to spending a lot of extra bucks on "extreme range tanks" (an extra $15,000 or so... ouch!!!).