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China Outlines New "Offensive" Military Strategy; Builds Lighthouses In Disputed Waters
In what is becoming an intensely contentious situation, China is ramping up its naval ambitions amid fierce criticism from Washington. As we reported on Monday, the Beijing-backed Global Times has suggested that a war with the US may be in the cards if China isn’t left alone to complete its “construction work” in the contested Spratly archipelago.
What Beijing calls “construction work”, Washington calls an unacceptable attempt to “redraw maritime boundaries” via the building of “sandcastles”, a reference to China’s land reclamation efforts atop the Fiery Cross Reef. Because Beijing claims most of the South China Sea, it says the construction of ports, cement plants, and airstrips atop the artificial islands its dredgers have built is no different in principle than the construction of roads on the mainland, a contention which the US and its regional allies view as absurd.
If there were any remaining questions about China’s maritime resolve, they were answered unequivocally on Tuesday with the release of the country’s 2015 defense white paper which indicates that Beijing is set to increase its “open seas protection” after countries with “ulterior motives” have busied themselves “meddling in South China Sea affairs.” Beijing also indicates that its air force will shift from a purely defensive strategy to an offensive stance, a nod to what we have described as the establishment of an effective no-fly zone over the Spratlys. Finally, China accuses Japan of "dodging" post-war norms by "overhauling its military." Here’s more from the report:
As the world economic and strategic center of gravity is shifting ever more rapidly to the Asia-Pacific region, the US carries on its "rebalancing" strategy and enhances its military presence and its military alliances in this region. Japan is sparing no effort to dodge the post-war mechanism, overhauling its military and security policies. Such development has caused grave concerns among other countries in the region. On the issues concerning China's territorial sovereignty and maritime rights and interests, some of its offshore neighbors take provocative actions and reinforce their military presence on China's reefs and islands that they have illegally occupied. Some external countries are also busy meddling in South China Sea affairs; a tiny few maintain constant close-in air and sea surveillance and reconnaissance against China. It is thus a long-standing task for China to safeguard its maritime rights and interests. Certain disputes over land territory are still smoldering…
In line with the strategic requirement of offshore waters defense and open seas protection, the PLA Navy (PLAN) will gradually shift its focus from "offshore waters defense" to the combination of "offshore waters defense" with "open seas protection," and build a combined, multi-functional and efficient marine combat force structure. The PLAN will enhance its capabilities for strategic deterrence and counterattack, maritime maneuvers, joint operations at sea, comprehensive defense and comprehensive support.
In line with the strategic requirement of building air-space capabilities and conducting offensive and defensive operations, the PLA Air Force (PLAAF) will endeavor to shift its focus from territorial air defense to both defense and offense, and build an air-space defense force structure that can meet the requirements of informationized operations. The PLAAF will boost its capabilities for strategic early warning, air strike, air and missile defense, information countermeasures, airborne operations, strategic projection and comprehensive support.
And more from Reuters:
Defence Ministry spokesman Yang Yujun said China's reclamation in the Spratlys was comparable with construction of homes and roads on the mainland.
"From the perspective of sovereignty, there is absolutely no difference," he told reporters.
Some countries with "ulterior motives" had unfairly characterized China's military presence and sensationalized the issue, he said. Surveillance in the region was increasingly common and China would continue to take "necessary measures" to respond.
Adding insult to injury for the US, China went on to broadcast a groundbreaking ceremony for two lighthouses Beijing is building on its new islands with a government spokesman indicating that no slowdown in development would be forthcoming because after all, those are some important shipping lanes.
China also hosted a groundbreaking ceremony for the building of two lighthouses in the South China Sea, broadcast on state television, defying calls from the United States and the Philippines for a freeze on such activity.
The construction was to help maritime search and rescue, disaster relief, environmental protection and navigational security, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said.
Wu Shicun, president of the government-affiliated National Institute for South China Sea Studies, said the lighthouses were among the first of planned civilian-use facilities in the region.
"The reefs are located near an important commercial shipping route, so there will be continued development to maintain the security of those shipping lanes," he said in an interview with Reuters.
Meanwhile, Japan will join the US and Australia in conducting war games in July in what Washington calls "unprecedented trilateral cooperation."
Via Reuters again:
Japan will join a major U.S.-Australian military exercise for the first time in a sign of growing security links between the three countries as tensions fester over China's island building in the South China Sea.
The Japanese personnel will embed with U.S. forces while 500 New Zealand troops will join Australian contingents, according to the Australian Defence Force website.
Japanese Defense Minister Gen Nakatani rebuffed suggestions the exercises were aimed at China, telling Reuters that Japan simply wanted to improve military cooperation with the United States and Australia.
Security cooperation between Canberra and Tokyo has already flourished under Prime Ministers Tony Abbott and Shinzo Abe, with Japan seen as the frontrunner to win a contract to supply next generation submarines to the Australian navy. U.S. commanders have publicly supported such a tie-up.
U.S. Assistant Secretary of Defense David Shear highlighted Washington's goal of boosting cooperation between its allies in testimony to the U.S. Senate this month.
"To expand the reach of these alliances, we are embarking on unprecedented trilateral cooperation," he said.
As for China, they're "not worried":
China's Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying, asked if Beijing was concerned the exercises appeared to be targeted toward China, said it was "not worried".
So while all of the above certainly seems to indicate that the world may be closer to a catastrophic global conflict than it's been since the Cold War, rest easy because as China will tell you, World War III isn't likely — at least not in the "forseeable future":
"In the foreseeable future, a world war is unlikely."
How comforting.
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The New Preemptive Defense is offensive to some.
Especially Globalist Neocons and Zi'Borgs.
Lets not forget that China's full press in laying claim to these islands, not to mention the body of water within which they are located, has come only after sizeable oil and gas deposits were confirmed in the Paracels, Senkakus, Spratlys and Scarborough Reef.
Further, China is now deploying more advanced ballistic missile submarines, the bases for which are located on Hainan Island as well as further up the coast of the mainland. As they begin to stretch their legs in this regard, the last thing they want are U.S. and western allies freely moving about in the area. This would be no different than having Chinese military forces constantly stationed in the vicinity of Groton, CT, Kings Bay, GA, San Diego, CA, etc...
This will get ugly.
Love you long time.....
PRC population = 1.2 billion
US population = 320 million
Either way, nuclear or conventional war, China wins:
- After a nuclear war China's population will be reduced to about 300 million inhabitants, while in the north American landmass there will be survivors ranging only in the dozens of thousands (40 thousand at the most); thus People's Republic of China will send some 20 million of its citizens to recolonize those territories.
- The United States have no longer the industrial capacity, financial resources or manpower to sustain a major long term conventional war against China - and it will be a war of attrition. PRC will occupy America without too much resistance and the US will become a protectorate of China. Moreover, the PLA will show no mercy with those who may intent to challenge the new Sovereign; however, Americans who accept the Chinese political system will be treated with respect and dignity (in fact, they will enjoy successful lives).
"PRC will occupy America without too much resistance"
Respectfully,
I hardly think this is in the cards.
I do not know where in the U.S. you are located, but most Americans outside of the liberal Meccas on the East and West Coast would be overjoyed at the opportunity to plink invading Chins.
We might be seriously fucked up, but we do have some standards.
There is NO way that China could hope to occupy Amerika. Amerika will fall from the inside.
The Chinese are different enough that they could not go anywhere without being noticed.
Of course, that wouldn't bode well for the Amerikan Chinese, S. Koreans, Japs, etc.
But if this goes Tribal, forget it.
The only way Amerika gets taken down from the outside is if someone looks American enough, gets inside and suggests some crazy money scheme that long term makes Amerikans nothing but debt serfs for the invading people.
And, as history is showing, the Chinese would have to copy that idea too.
pods
Wolverines!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_I4WgBfETc
Sadly we have actors like Powers Boothe and Patrick Swayze to fight for us (on screen). Just George Clooney and other closet cases.
I'm sure the Americans will do fine without their precious air support.
Other countrys thought it absurd that we changed borders of countrys after ww1 and ww2, HYPOCRISY BITCHES!
One thing is for certain: China would not be doing any of this - verbally or physically, if they did not have their (military hardware) backs covered by Putin. Which is fine, btw. They have a right to alliances all the same as the U.S. has enjoyed over the past 70 years.
That sounds good right up until somebody (unintentionally) pulls the trigger then all bets are off. China has been an in-facing country till recently and I'm not sure they understand what could happen if shit starts flying....
"One thing is for certain: China would not be doing any of this" -
if U.S. politicians hadn't sold out their own country for a few sheckles. Once China got into the WTO (Bill Clinton) and worthless Chinese shit hit Walmart (Home Depot, etc.) in exchange for a (then) strong U.S. currency, America killed its own economy and built the economy of their enemy.
Odd thing that. Strengthening your enemy while cutting yourself off at the knees. Short of nuclear war, the U.S. is impotent in the South China Sea. Maybe it's time for Japan to disclose how many nukes it has in inventory.
So
Last I looked Walmart was the largest retailer in the solar system - maybe the milky way - and no one held a gun at its customers' heads to give Walmart that distinction.
I suppose some of them would prefer shopping at F.A.O.Schwartz, Hammacher Schlemmer and Bergdorf but the parking around there stinks.
China still seems to need (or want) some items like jet engines from Russia but by no means is China relying on Russia. Just the opposite. China has seen what happens to those who rely upon Russia and has now set it's own agenda.
China is expanding it's influence, and limits of it's terriitorial borders. Russia is getting bitch slapped at every turn when it comes to physical projection of it's military threat or might. China is vulnerable in it's holding in other countries such as Africa but they may surprise some people and make moves to establish themselves physically in more foreign countries.
Russia/Putin has consented to or participated to the destruction of Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen and Serbia to name a few. China uses Russia when it is to China's benefit but has shown wisdom in not extendingi itself for Russia and appears to be aware Putin cooperates with the west.
How many Russian cosmonaut/engineers have been up in the Chinese Space Station advising them how to proceed?
I'll bet a lot have gone up to Tiangong and may be there right now.
Russia sacrificed a great deal to keep NATO and the US out of Crimea and Sevastopol and China is behind them 200%.
There are only 3 options.
1) Surrender to China
2) Go to war
3) Submit to arbitration and finally settle all these overlapping SCS maritime boundary disputes that have been going on for decades
The thing about option 3 is that it is time sensitive, not just militarily, but legally. Just ask the Thai military about that border with Cambodia, and more specifically what happened when they failed to object about a certain map, when it was published (years before anyone went to arbitration)... or in simple English for those who don't care about the intricacies of public international law - You Snooze, You Lose.
+1,UR. option 2) is not feasible, option 1) would mean less armament spendings for both the American and the Chinese MIC and option 3) the same
ergo we are looking at an unsolvable problem, a Gordian Knot, something that is not meant to be solved, particularly not with weapons
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evidence for my point: the yearly "ballet" of the 5th Fleet. a piece of choreography and art all for itself. That's the best aspect of Ares, the dance of the swords, as practiced by Spartans
how many generations of sailors have already partecipated to this? two or already three?
Well Ghordius, if you are going to write with the esoteric forked tongue of an oracle... two can play that game-
Uncle Sam not only isn't Sabazios, he isn't destined to rule Asia.
But how will the future king break the knot?
Once the Chinese get done redrawing their maps, their King can cut a deal with his weakest rival,
The important thing is that the rival(s) accepts the map as drawn, even if an accompanying joint development agreement is more generous to the rival(s) than the lines on the map would indicate.
If a deal is cut with Brunei and Malaysia, then the Philippines and Vietnam are left with scraps proportionate to a pivot away from Uncle Sam
Because a bumbling bellicose uncle named Sam could never untie this thing.
I call bullshit on both of you. These giant nations will continue down this path until they can't.
FIN
Ghordius - I'm finished with ZH.
It was once intellectually stimulating here, but is now like a propaganda outlet for both China & Russia, following on 6 straight years of failed doom porn prognostications (and I say this as someone NOT optimistic/bullish on the macroeconomic future short, intermediate or even longer term).
Take some time off, but there is no point it in comitting to new home before you find one, and if you find some gulch that the marauding army of sheeple haven't discovered... pass the word.
UR, second that, and... take me with you guys!
I can't think of another adjective in any language that really captures the simultaneous "Is it profound or is it poppycock?" nature of the Oracles. "Forked tongue" doesn't sound right, but then Ghordian is also problematic...
I am also glad greed and ambition are such powerful motivators, otherwise the chance of intentional war would be greater, since no one wants to the Lord of the Flies.
The USA already surrendered to Mexico and the NWO/ZWO.
If China declares war on the US will they stop sending all their shit products to walmart?
Imagine the economic boom that would occur if we suddenly had to produce all those products domestically.
People don't even work anymore in this country. How the fuck are we gonna produce anything?
"People don't even work anymore in this country. How the fuck are we gonna produce anything?"
You start by investing in facilities and training. You give interviews and test the local population for their skills and aptitudes, then train them to do those tasks that their skills best match. You find and promote the best performers, listen to their input, and improve your processes, equipment and training. Lather, rinse, repeat.
See, management takes work too. You have to actually manage people, make decisions, listen to customers, balance budgets, set up schedules, etc. It takes a lot more work than just signing off on a PO for a pallet of crap from China.
I see a lot of people bitching about the lazy-ass "Free Shit Army" on this forum all the time. It seems to me that the management class has gotten rather lazy over the last couple of decades as well. They appear to have completely forgotten about the work associated with active management of actual production.
As a former manager, I understand that some people still work, but there is a vast population of "lazy asses". Can it be done? Yes, but a whole Lotta people are gonna have to change their mindsets....and it ain't the managers.
"As a former manager, I understand that some people still work, but there is a vast population of "lazy asses". Can it be done? Yes, but a whole Lotta people are gonna have to change their mindsets....and it ain't the managers."
You're not wrong, but you're not completely right either. I would instead suggest that EVERYONE is going to have to change their mindsets; from the consumers who want cheap stuff, to the workers who aren't willing to do a fair day's work for a fair day's pay, to the managers who aren't willing to pay a far day's pay for a fair day's work. We're all going to have to re-think a whole lot of stuff, from what we want, to what we value, to what we're willing and not willing to do to the planet and to each other; the current global economic ecosystem is quite obviously unsustainable.
Look into the History of W Edwards Deming and "Statistical Process Control"
[quote] Deming made a significant contribution to Japan's reputation for innovative, high-quality products, and for its economic power. He is regarded as having had more impact on Japanese manufacturing and business than any other individual not of Japanese heritage. Despite being honored in Japan in 1951 with the establishment of the Deming Prize, he was only just beginning to win widespread recognition in the U.S. at the time of his death in 1993. [/quote] -- From Wikipedia
Prophets are never honored in their hometowns.
Imagine the price increase.
Imagine the price increase.
Imagine the quality increase.
Imagine the increase in decent paying jobs.
Imagine bringing our boys home and not spending money to get them killed in foreign wars.
Sounds like a deal to me.
90% decrease in foreign military bases, 90% decrease in imports of manufactured goods especially electronic gizmos, 99% decrease in military casualities. Tell the Chinese to keep their South China Sea, and to keep their exported products because US does not want them anymore.
dear henryhall
i think you are asking toooo much from some of these buffoons.
imagination of the sort you propose is not a part of their kit
doomed.
The FSA,,, work! Your have to be kidding.
You'd have to escort them to the factory at gunpoint.
"You'd have to escort them to the factory at gunpoint."
Or worse, God forbid, you'd have to pay an attractive wage and offer real benefits. The horror! That might cost MONEY! Oh woe, woe...
You mean one that competes with free healthcare, free obama-phones, free housing, free food, $160K to blow on Apple products electronics and college parties, and 365 days of paid vacation per year?
"You mean one that competes with free healthcare, free obama-phones, free housing, free food, $160K to blow on Apple products electronics and college parties, and 365 days of paid vacation per year?"
What fantasy-world are you living in? I can tell you for a fact that as of right now, if you're a male between 18 and 67 and need benefits, the ONLY thing you qualify for is about $160 a month in food stamps. There's a reason there's so many people living on the streets, carrying sleeping bags and blankets, and standing on street corners with cardboard signs; it's because there are no benefits available to them, and no jobs either.
The only exception is if you can get onto disability somehow, and that is not an easy thing to do, and even if you do get onto it you end up living without any benefits for months and even years while your application is processed, denied and re-processed. The days of the "cadillac driving welfare mother" are long behind us, what remains is a huge population of desperate, impoverished people who are scrambling to survive, and willing to take any shit job at any shit wage that's being offered. So fucking be happy already, you guys won!
That's not the business or CEO's fault. Government over-regulation, union monopolies with government bailouts of badly run companies in auto, transportation, and manufacturing, and central bank encouragement of company executives to borrow money at 0 interest to do share buybacks and give themselves multimillion dollar bonuses driving up share prices instead of invest in CAPEX is who won. Don't blame the free-market libertarians. By the way, the only people winning are the countries that practice free-market economics (or who are better than the US anyway): China, Singapore, Switzerland, Malaysia
Are youa CEO?
Correction. I believe you are complaining about the products made in China by US corporations using Chinese workers and factories built in China, products made to the US corporations specs under the supervision of the US corporations, then the products are sent to the US by those US corporations to be sold in the US for the profit of the US corporation.
The same US corporations that once made those products in the US - CHOSE - to move the factories to China voluntarily. It is the US corporations that chose NOT to produce domestically.
And why do people think any of this is limited to Walmart or China. Those US coporations sell the foreign manufactured products in all the US stores and they are made in various countries. I can remember when they started making their cars in Mexico. THEN, the shock when it became common knowledge that the cars made in Mexico has fewer assembly problems than those assembled in the US plants and we WANTED assurances we would get a Mexico car.
That problem would be solved by replacing the personal income tax with tarriffs.
(Hat tip: US Constitution)
dream on
no one forced walmart to buy from china.
no one forced you to buy from walmart.
no one produces domestically because amis are consumers
and consumers only consume.
where have ya' been, bunky.
I'm not sure about the South China Sea
But in the Middle East, the alliance between Saudi Arabia and Israel is unstoppable - especially now that they're comfortable using nuclear weapons.
Rock-throwers are no match for nukes -
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/20/did-saudi-arabia-nuke-yemen/
Hard and swift comes the geo-political shift.
core capital goods orders
on face ... april +1.0% (bullz rejoice) ... +$710 million
BUT
revisions to february (massive) -$1.127 billion and march +$236 million ... net -$891 million more than offset $710 million gain.
another number to throw on downward revision Q1 GDP pile
Lighthouses huh
hmmm
lighthouses do kind of look like missiles
you no trick me right?
That's not the trick...
The trick involves pictures drawn on paper, and presented as gifts to officials of other governments. And given the ass clowns that Obozo generally appoints as Ambassadors, this could get really humorous if it doesn't get really bloody.
They're building lighthouses with frickin' lasers on top.
I haven't quite put my finger on if Russia and China are truly on board with the big next stage or if they are genuine obsticles. I'm leaning towards China maybe leading Russia up a creek, if both aren't on board already. That leads me to conclude this whole China vs USA thing is most likely just more deceptive bullshit. War or no war
How dare you downvote me? All is how it's reported huh? I'll send you chinese mustard softened with liquid plastics...you slanty bastard
keep puffin' the crack, mate lol
Your mom's behind isn't enough crack to get me drinking the same kool-aid as you. CNN and FOX is also warning about a more aggressive China, STFU. Don't make me pull out my bigger pipe. I got some hot mustard in my other pocket just for you too
i'm a fan of cape hatteras lighthouse barber shop pole paint scheme
any chance chinese paint them this way?
Why is China attempting to assert sovereign claims on man-made islands in what are indisputably international waters?
Simple - it's bent on conquest.
possibly
Either that or China doesn't want the US Navy bobbing around in the South China Sea with a fleet of yellow rubber duckies like a 3 year old in a tub.
US bans sales of common Intel chips to China - trade restrictions lead to tensions and conflict:
US govt bans Intel from selling chips to China's supercomputer boffins
Xeon, Xeon Phi processors slapped on trade block listThe US government has blocked Intel from shipping high-end Xeon processors to China's supercomputer builders – and other American chip giants are banned, too.
Intel confirmed to The Register last night it was refused permission to sell the chips to the Middle Kingdom's defense labs and other parts of its supercomputing industry.
"Intel was informed in August by the US Department of Commerce that an export license was required for the shipment of Xeon and Xeon Phi parts for use in specific previously disclosed supercomputer projects with Chinese customer INSPUR," a spokesperson for the Santa Clara-based biz said, adding:
Those Xeon chips are vital to high-performance computing needed for scientific research and similar work: they will be used to power the 50,000-node, 180-petaFLOPS Aurora supercomputer Intel and Cray are building for the US Department of Energy, due to go live in 2018. China's Tianhe-2 computer, today the world's fastest publicly known supercomputer, uses 3.1 million Intel Xeon E5 cores to hit 54 petaFLOPS in peak performance.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/10/us_intel_china_ban/
doesn't intel have a chip mfg facility in china?
or this:
http://www3.intel.com/cd/corporate/icrc/apac/eng/170371.htm
they don't need to buy them from Intel. lmao
Perhaps the Chinese have cleaned up their corrupt business practices but I'm not impressed with construction endeavor they undertake, civilian or military.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/5685963/Nine-held-o...
Miffed
Don't anyone tell China that we in the U.S. have stockpiles of WMDs. I don't want to get pre-empted.
sorry
The honorable State of Israel has been using the pre-emptive strike for decades with nothing but approval by the evolved nations of the West.
Israel's version of the sneak attack at Pearl Harbor against her neighbors is a kosher military tactic now.
Whether the US, Russia or China will put the Israeli strategy to work against each other in more than the acceptable tit-for-tat version is uncertain.
No good guys in this one kiddos... can only pray no one drops a nuke in the middle of my farm...
I wonder how these man made islands will fare in a big typhoon with no natural barrier reef? I wouldn't want to be on one of them with 10-20 ft storm surge. Something tells me they are going to have to be rebuilt often.
Small Islands don't experience large storm suges like mainlands do since the water tends to move around the island instead of piling up like it does on a continental land mass. I would never expect that they would see more than 6 ft or so of surge.
China must be shocked and suprised that US intended to nuke China along with Russia on Oct 28, 1962:
Japanese News Agency Reveals Nuclear War Close Call
April 1, 2015
“Oh, my God!,” Bordne recalled his colleagues as saying as they turned white with shock and surprise when they received a launch order before dawn on Oct. 28. The order was issued from Kadena to all four Mace B sites in Okinawa including Bolo Point, he said.
According to him, the three-level confirmation process was taken step-by-step in accordance with a manual by comparing codes in the launch order and codes given to his crew team in advance. All of the codes matched.
“So, we read the targets out loud. Out of the four missiles, we had only one headed toward Russia. The other three were not going to Russia
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/04/01/japanese-news-agency-reveals-...
The other missiles were headed towards China
Maps would like much different today!
Can I get Egg drop soup with my Nuclear exchange..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMGYAkUtKQw
jimi HENDRIX PEOPLE!
With modern GPS ship navigation lighthouses are little more than a symbol of ownership.
Until the next Carrington Event. When GPS becomes history until all new satellites are launched.
China has its own Global Positioning System called BeiDou.
Very pleased to see a more assertive China in dealing with The Empire's extended outreach, following the path of the Russian Federation :-)
No force on Earth can scare away an alliance of China and the Russian Federation!
"The Roman Empire was very, very much like US. They lost their moral core, their sense of values in terms of who they were. And after all of those things converged together, they just went right down the tubes very quickly." - Benjamin Carson
What difference does it make?
Dredging and building islands really fucks up coral reef systems. I expect that they're all dead now in those islands.
Who cares?
Coral reefs worldwide will be extinct in ten years anyhow.
You're right because almost nobody cares.
Who am I but just some guy who has enjoyed their beauty and diversity.
Insignificant compared to a single nuclear test or a single oil spill by the US. And there have been many.
"Japan will join the US and Australia in conducting war games in July..."
Australian govs need to be careful about how far it gets into bed with Washington to aggravate China. Its economic survival is increasingly courtesy of China and other Asian countries who themselves are subject to Chinese influence.
""PRC will occupy America without too much resistance"
as much as many of you exceptional amis are looking forward to the PRC occupying your land, i don't think they give a shit.
they've got enough land, some of it in worse shape than yours, to contend with.
and who the hell would support over-weight, dumbed down, 10 guns in every closet, jobless clowns that most of you seem to be.
then, of course, there is the language problem.
what language are the bulk of you speaking these days?
sorry no saviors in the chinese.
now if you want to apply for coolie labor status 'building sand castles' maybe you might be accepted
lol
If there is to be a War in SE Asia-- Eurasian `Masterminds[?]-- these three (3) names are responsible for America's involvment. [So]... it's very important that you familiarize yourself with their thun[king?] :: 'The Three [FP] Amigoes'
David L. Shambaugh http://www.muckety.com/David-L-Shambaugh/213389.muckety
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Jerald F. Hyman *CSIS* http://csis.org/programs
Note: CSIS <GOTO> (H)... 'Hills Program on Governance'
this is actually a good idea and should be supported and exploited, there are a lot of marine hazards in addition to Muslim pirates, if the chicoms want to put beacons and man troops on those islands, let 'em, we can sell 'em burgers and tacos and helicopters, maybe even Sikorsky.
If there was a beacon on Tubbataha reef we might not have lost the USS Guardian to dipshits and state sanctioned looters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Guardian_%28MCM-5%29
PS I bet the chicoms bought the scrap-for less than scrap
Most of you have it all wrong. We are talking about an inward looking culture, one that builds mighty long and big walls to keep others out. Almost no history of foreign conquest of expansion. All that does not change in one generation.
China used to be small, a tiny state around Yellow River area. It expanded through conquest. Once it occupied the land, it become part of China. Some of the fringe areas were lucky enough to escape in the weak times. These include south Soviet republics, Korea, Vietnam, (outer) Mongolia, etc. People should learn some Chinese history. You should have heard Attila huns. They were once who lost their home land to China.
People have misconceptions about those great walls, even including some Chinese. When you look at these walls, they are deep inside Chinese territory and all in the North. Most of Han people were agrarian. However, in the north, a lot of tribes were nomadic peoples. They rode on horseback and were extremely dynamic. They were hard for agrarian people to defend since they could appear anywhere. Therefore, China built walls in their own territory to server as the last stronghold. The walls have been fairly effective. Many times when West Asia and Europe were under barbarian terror, China escaped the misfortune. At good time, China ruled a lot of the northern tribes and southern areas as well. I read about around 4000 years ago, the core area was around 500 KM in diameter.
I don't see how the chinese claim in the Spratly and Paracel Islands is any more legitimate than Veitnaim, Malaysia, Brunei, Tiawan or the Philippines. Most of those countries are a lot closer than China. It seems like China is saying FU, our' guns are bigger, so it's all mine. It's a rude and offensive posture.
The empirical/tyrannical stance of the US government and its military is rude and offensive.
If you know the history, it becomes obscure. Most of these nations were either submitting to China or as part of China before Earopeans appeared. It is more who gets the bigger guns now, more or less.
Call the waaambulance for the Chinks.
The counter to all this will be the full and eventual recognition of Taiwan by the US and its allies.
Does US still have allies. I thought they all joined China cycle of influence.
Yes, and also Tibet and Xinjiang.
But better yet, just take back the islands and divvy them up between Vietnam and the Philippines. Tyler hasn't done his homework if he thinks China's ragtag navy with its creaking "preo-owned" Ukrainian fishing scows could stand up to even a single American carrier group.
The Chinese should just call their fabricated islands "settlements."
...or spreading "freedom and democracy".
Hell, they should just say they are military bases to protect themselves from US aggression.
Most of the world would understand that.
Good point. It works for one of "our most important allies". ...Or, is that All Lies?
"Defence Ministry spokesman Yang Yujun said China's reclamation in the Spratlys was comparable with construction of homes and roads on the mainland."
Just in case some of our local pinkos and Chicoms think that the USA has a monopoly on audacious whoppers.
Here's how it is:
1. The zios took over England and used them as the enforcement arm of the Rothschild finance system. Used them up until they were all used up. Setup their little plantation in America.
2. Let America grow and build and then used them as the enforcement arm of the Rothschild finance system. Used America up until we were all used up. Built their next little plantation in Bolshevik-Red-China.
3. Buiit China to be the manufacturer of damn near everything Stole all the intellectual property rights and recentered them into China. Will now use China as the enforcement arm of the Rothschild finance system. Will use the Chinese up until they are all used up.
4. ?
are the 'Zios' Jews in whole or in part?
I am not being glib, I'm asking your usage, if I might.
It seems to me, fwltmbw, that lots of people on here do use zios when they mean jews, or jews when they properly mean militarist/Likudnik Zionist Jews. For example, about 1/2 of US millionaires are Jews. Jews are over-represented, of them some % are 'Zionist' - maybe most, but probably most, as I understand it, are not "neocon" or Likudnik in outlook, although they don't seem to be objecting too strenuously, and the Times and other papers seem to be little more than pro-Israel, anti-Russian agitprop organs of a clearly still disproportionately Jewish-and-Zionist American Deep State.
Problems are to be expected when discussing a group that is a religion, or an ethnic tribe, depending on which is better for the purposes of a given discussion or argument.