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Key Iraq War Architect: “Our Objective Should Be a New Sunni State Out of the Western Part Of Iraq, the Eastern Part of Syria”

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We’ve previously noted that the powers-that-be have been planning for MANY DECADES to break up Iraq into several countries.

And the same has been true for Syria.

One of the key architects of the Iraq war – John Bolton – previously said that the Iraq war was about oil, not protecting the United States from weapons of mass destruction. And see this.

Last weekend, Bolton said:

The Arabs divided between Sunnis and Shias – I think the Sunni Arabs are never going to agree to be in a state where the Shia outnumber them 3-1. That’s what ISIS has been able to take advantage of.

 

I think our objective should be a new Sunni state out of the western part of Iraq, the eastern part of Syria run by moderates or at least authoritarians who are not radical Islamists. What’s left of the state of Iraq, as of right now, is simply a satellite of the ayatollahs in Tehran. It’s not anything we should try to aid.

In other words, one of the key architects of the Iraq war has openly called for partition of Iraq and Syria into a number of different countries … as the Neocons have been planning for over 20 years.

Postscript: The hawks are not exactly sad about the rise of ISIS.

 

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Wed, 05/27/2015 - 08:59 | 6135702 Salzburg1756
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Whatever Israel wants, Israel gets.

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 07:50 | 6135471 roadhazard
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Bolton... I always knew that war monger was ISIS.

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 09:31 | 6135828 weburke
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haha, he said "our". since when. Does he think he gets a vote at the small table of deciders? Lots of folks serve sauron thinking they are part of a "we" as if the hydra included their minds. 

Too bad all these servants of the nameless  will not be getting a email heads up when the death methods are doled out. Sheesh, whatever are they all thinking? What have they been told? Lies, whatever it is. 

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 07:38 | 6135457 pndr4495
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Smedley Butler on Interventionism

-- Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC. 

 

War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

 

I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.

 

I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.

 

There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism.

 

It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

 

I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

 

I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

 

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 09:00 | 6135444 Counterpunch
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Good work, GW.  I'd missed the article you linked to at top - also excellent.

I'd add that Feith set up, with Wolfowtiz and Perle's help, the "Office of Special Plans"  to look for evidence of Iraqi WMDs the CIA missed.

None of these men were trained intelligence officers, and they were overwhelmingly Zionist Jews.

 

The Lie Factory | Mother Jones

 

The way an attack on Iraq was sold to Netanyahu, versus an American audience, by the same Zionist Jewish authors who later ended up in the Pentagon is discussed here.

 

There was more than one reason for the Iraq war.  But the Oded Yinon/PNAC/Zionist plan motivated these men. 

The extent to which Israel influences US government could not be more obvious.

But here's the other part few dare discuss:  While most Jews are not 'neocons' most of the leading neocons were Jews because, as the link above discusses, neoconservatism originated amongst U. Chicago Jews who were inordinately concerned with Israel.

Those Jews who are not neocons still use their influence to 'support Israel' and most of all prevent criticism of Israel, or, of wildly disproportionate Jewish {qua such} powerIndeed "anti-Semitism" as rhetorical device is primarily concerned with 2 things:

1]  obfuscating and preventing consequences for systematic Israeli warcrimes and slow burn ethnic cleansing apartheid colonialism;

2] obfuscating and preserving Jewish power as such.  'Zionist' power emanates mostly from the wealth and power of Jews as a group as such.  Southern Evangelicals provide votes, but mostly in the south, and nationally, they are significantly outnumbered by Catholics alone

Clearly the US was happy to go to war for decades in arenas that did not involve Israel - and plenty of non-Jewish and non-Jewish actors had their own motivations to go to war.  War profiteering is an old game - that was likely Cheney's sole motive.  Bush was a puppet who was likely convinced of the moral justice of removing a 'dangerous dictator.'  None of this is to suggest that the only reason we went to war in Iraq was the agitation of "The Jews."  We're talking specificially about the minority of Jews who are aligned with the Likudnik vision of Netanyahu and PNAC - and even they, I believe, were a necessary but not sufficient force that got the US into a needless and sickening war.  Ultimately Bush, and Congress had to go along and indeed, at the end of the day, primary responsibility lay with them.

But the strategy, the faked intelligence, the media jingoism, the think tank opinion columns - those were very disprortionately Jewish and Zionist. 

But consider - Israeli papers regarding what we see going on, events that are not in America's interests [we are far less safe, obviously] with intellectual/strategic progeny written by dual citizen Zionist Jews who wrote for Netanyahu, and some of whome ended up in high positions under Bush, even setting up a special office comprised mostly of Zionist Jews to, it seems, do an end run around the CIA though none of them were trained analysts.  Neocons in the press, disproportionately Jewish, called for war on Iraq even as Bin Laden had evaded capture, the 9/11 patsy, and the same people call for war on Iran based on another set of lies.  Richard Perle had been investigated for spying for Israel in the 70s and ends up, along with clearly Israel Firster Zionists in high positions in the Bush administration.

 

The Jewish-Zionist influence on the US, its media and banking sectors, and agitation for wars not in America's interest, but mimicking Oded Yinon and "A Clean  Break" and "Rebuilding America's DEfenses" could not be more obvious, and there are those who simply will deny deny deny either out of stupidity or misplaced loyalty to a cabal of quite evil men.

 

Jewish power - as such - allows the right wing, Likudnik minority of Jews as a whole, to wield tremendous power, as does billions funnelled through private donations to candidates who all but kiss the ring of the Israeli PM for the privilege of running for the Presidency of a country that in every significant way is unlike the Zionist Crusader State.

Lots and lots of people are going to die because people wont discuss the disproportionate Jewish power, in the US, UK, Canada, France, Ukraine, and elsewhere, that is as obvious as it is forbidden to speak about.

If most Jews do not support the wars, and this bloody, warmongering scheme for Greater Israel, then let them use their influence to say so - one is not to blame for the lunatic ravings of someone else merely because one shares faith or ethnicity or genes.  Few would seriously argue otherwise.

But the American government is disproportionately controlled by Jewish men and women as is the media.  A minority of these Jews are "neocons" or Likudnik, but they are able to use the power and networks of the greaer community, which, with a few very notable exceptions, of course, has been content to let them drive the US into more war, and to poision the minds of the public with the most reprehensible propaganda against Russia, and Iran.

 

It's time to talk about Jewish Privilege and Power.  Not just vague references to 'Zionists.'  This tacitly suggests "Christian" Zionists are giving the millions in donations and in the think tanks and in the State House and the CIA front ngos - which is not the case.  They are disproportionately Jewish, and those Jews are disproportionately "neocon."

The disproportionality of Jewish power per se merits public discussion.  Honest and fair, to be sure, but without blinking because someone throws out the word "anti-Semite" to which people are as conditioned as Pavlov's dog - thought shuts down, one feels nervous, and the discussion changes.  But even if there were no wars - Jewish power and privilege, across many different categories, is far out of proportion with their numbers, and if we are to attend the Church of Multiculturalism we have to note that it is axiomatic that if a small, ethnocentric minority is widly over-represented, then other minorities, and 'the majority' is necessarily under-represented. 

One can not meaningfully discuss the warmongoing and frightening influence of Likudnik Zionism without discussing the wildy disproportionate power of the Jewish community as such.  Whether its leadership of federal agencies, or senators, or Hollywood studio execs, or newspaper managing editors, or acceptees at "yop" schools - or ownership of NFL and NBA teams... the more you look, the more Jewish power goes from 'outsized' to concerning - whether it is an internet of facebook/google/youtube ultimately controlled by members of the Jewish minority, to Israel's lobby getting unanimous support on absurd bills.    It is absolutely unfair to everyone else, and it is bad, given the primary loyalty to other Jews and/or Israel of a large minority of Jews - it is bad for the US, which does not have the same geostrategic interests. 

How could an empire of 320 million in north america made up of evey race and creed be so in thrall to a small, belligerent, colonialist ethnarchy of 6 million which has taken hundreds of billions in tribute from the former over the years despite "frightening" levels of spying and the likes of the USS Liberty, the Rosenbergs, Johnathan Pollard, Larry Franklin, and the "dancing Israeli" spy ring of 9/11?

Because Jews, and one must posit in some kind of organized fashion, have virtual control of much of government, media, and banking.  Period.  And a large minority of *them* are outright primarily loyal to Israel and seek to use distinctly non-Jewish blood and treasure not merely to "defend" nuclear apartheid Israel - but to spread death and dismemberment around it to both weaken any 'possible' threat - and to allow for future expansion, or lebensraum.

Many, many lives may depend on draining the Pavlovian magick from the word 'anti-Semite.' 

 

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 09:23 | 6135797 shovelhead
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"Hi Mom, I'm home. Got anything to eat?"

"Son, sit down...I think it's time to have a frank discussion."

"Bout what?"

"Well honey...It's about...Jews."

"Aw, Mom. Sarah Stien lets us touch her tits...honest."

"No dear, it's not about that."

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 16:46 | 6137602 Counterpunch
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aw, you learn that in hasbara school?

 

lol.

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 07:28 | 6135438 BlowsAgainstthe...
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I think our objective should be dropping John Bolton and the rest of his neocon ilk directly into Raqqa.  That way, they can see first-hand what their policies have wrought.  Followed by a fitting end at the hands of those they helped to create. 

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 06:21 | 6135369 falak pema
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American Sykes Picot great game and "divide and rule" reset, like then in 1916 Post Ottoman collapse...All to control the OIL patch, the new silk or spice routes of Mankind.

Rule Britannia's template then was betrayed by two key men who epitomized the Alcibiade strain in any Empire when it goes top heavy and despotic. (We all know how Alcibiade destroyed Athens via his mad Sicilian adventure, he the most talented son of Pericles, Hegemon par excellence !)...

Well, when the Brits along with the French tried to take over the Ottoman empire in Arabia, according to SYkes Picot divide line, their key spy and one man CIA precursor type operative, Lawrence, chose to side up with Hashemite Sheikh Hussein bin Ali, lord of Mecca.

But a renegade "great game" denier from the Brit camp : Saint John Philby put his bets on rival fundamentalist bedouin tribe of the Saud. Saud won in 1924 capturing the symbol Mecca and Hashemites became second fiddle in Iraq and Jordan.

Saint John Philby, the Brit renegade, then sealed the demise of Rule Britannia in ME Oil patch by inviting in Chevron to compete with Brit Raj Royal flag carriers Shell and BP. And they hit BONANZA in Saud. From then on Saud was firmly a US protectorate.

Lawrence had lost and Philby the renegade had won for the cause of Saud-US dominance!

And in its wake spawned the rabid strain of Sunni Salafist intolerance as template of dominant "Islamic money can buy anybody/anything" hubristic plays that captured the Sunni Moslem swath from Indonesia to Senegal/ Soudan, when the Oil spike of 1973 made Saud king of planet Oil and the consumerista global bonanza.

We all know that his son Kim Philby (first named after Kipling's literary hero!)  would go one step better in the race of betrayal, by becoming a key Soviet spy!

Some renegade strains run in the hereditary blood line (like for its other demented Oligarchy minded imperial strain : hubris, as epitomised by the Bush family line).

Well, over the ages History rhymes and the GWB crusade has spawned its own demented Pax Americana "great game" plan, an Alcibiade type solution in new Syracuse! 

Play on Hubris ! America has now found its own Alcibiade legacy to bring down its Empire ! 

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 06:07 | 6135356 GreatUncle
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If Sunni and Shia muslims ever figure out "they are being played against each other" then they may unite into one. It's not like either side do not have something in common!

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 04:05 | 6135251 Jack Daniels Esq
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The USG is one seriously fucked-up, delusional POS

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 03:36 | 6135228 Shitgum Suicide
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I seem to remember a certain Vice President whom none of us have seen for quite some time also offering up the same option of partitioning Iraq into three states.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-01-biden-iraq_x.htm

Yet it's always the NEOCONS with you and your ilk around here.

Nice try but failed as always.

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 08:01 | 6135455 Counterpunch
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Did you even read this article, or the one linked at the top?  Because if you had, you'd not have bothered to summon Cheney in the face of a litany of Jewish/Israeli names and strategy papers.

 

It's almost as if you are only here to lie and engage in ad hominem to defend Israel at any cost - no matter what the facts say, no matter how unequivocal the Israeli crime, or how obvious the Jewish and Zionist element to the 'neocons' was - that there are also Cheneys and Woolseys and McCains who also warmonger in the same way doesn't mean they have the same motives - moreover, the high disproportionality of Zionist Jews amongst the leading neocons is inarguable.  Jews are 2.5% of the population.  We may guess that right wing Likudnik Jews are less than 1/3 of that.

So to have those kind of people all over the place, in the Office of Special Plans, and in your newspaper, arguing for war on a country some of the same Zionists had long targeted for Israel, in papers written by Jews clearly loyal to Israel - and you object to the idea that there is a Zionist element here, 'because Cheney'?

 

No one is that stupid - you're just being a fuckin' troll.

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 09:14 | 6135760 shovelhead
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So?

Go to Israel and stand in front of a Caterpillar like all smart leftys do.

That'll teach em.

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 16:44 | 6137595 Counterpunch
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Or - how about I just teaching people about the lavon affair, uss liberty, jonathan pollard, missile sales to china, and stuff like that.

How about that, cunt?

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 03:31 | 6135220 Sandmann
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Time to split the red states from the blue states in the US and create a New Confederacy

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 03:22 | 6135212 just the tip
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name one so-called country on the african continent or mid-east or sub-asia that is not an artificial construct of the british empire.  they put the borders of countries right down the middle of warring tribes. 

why?

because they were the colonizer, they could then return, constantly, to settle the dispute, and, constantly, stay embroiled in internal affairs of said constructed states.

hell, the people they did this to didn't even know, or care, what a nation was.  see afghanistan, circa 1863.

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 03:35 | 6135225 Sandmann
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The British were the only people on the planet at the time - the French had not arrived and the Spanish were still orbiting the planet.

Most of the problems were caused by the US seizing Spanish colonies like Philippines and Cuba; seizing British protectorates like Hawaii, and destroying French Indo-China, and invading Canada, and entering WW1 in 1917, and forcing Britain to cancel the 1902 Anglo-Japanese Naval Treaty in 1921.........oh, and I forgot to mention Truman taking a campaign contribution in 1948 to recognise Israel

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 00:54 | 6135057 21centurydragon...
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Ziopath's Latest Psyop: DABIQ

http://winteractionables.com/?p=21226

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 00:49 | 6135048 Lin S
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Yugoslavia's demise was my wake-up call. Now I understand that for global government to work, sovereign states must be disassembled into smaller, more easily manipulated constituent parts that can't stand on their own. States that resist the globalists will not be disassembled, as the USSR and Czechoslovakia were, they will be smashed, as Iraq was.

Strange thing is, Americans can't imagine this happening to THEIR country. But I assure you, dear reader, it most certainly will.

Uncontrolled borders exist for this reason.

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 00:33 | 6135025 Joe A
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This leads to moar war, killings and ethnic/religious cleansing but he probably sees it as "an historical wrong corrected".

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 00:19 | 6134998 oncefired
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This guys sounds like a friend of Joe Biden

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 00:07 | 6134976 RagnarRedux
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A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties

by Oded Yinon, translated by Israel Shahak | KIVUNIM / Palestine with Provenance | February 1982

"Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel's targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. An Iraqi-Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shi'ite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north. It is possible that the present Iranian-Iraqi confrontation will deepen this polarization."

http://www.monabaker.com/pMachine/more.php?id=A2298_0_1_0_M

Eretz Israel

http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future

The Ethnic Clique That Sold Us The Iraq War

http://zfacts.com/node/297

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 00:04 | 6134968 joego1
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How much more fucked up could they possibly make it?

Tue, 05/26/2015 - 23:35 | 6134861 Cityzerosix
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The Great Iraqi Revolution 1920. The score at the end was the usual British Imperial effort of about 8000 Iraqis dead to 500 colonials.The RAF brought in by Churchill dropped 97 tons of bombs and fired 183861 rounds.Of course neither the Iraqis or Kurds possessed one bloody aeroplane between them....Diplomacy!  old school. Now, in this more progressed time, the corpses multiply exponentially.

Tue, 05/26/2015 - 22:27 | 6134721 Duc888
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One of the key architects of the Iraq war – John Bolton.......................

 

WTF?  Why not have this walking / talking anus take his whole family, grandkids, aunts and uncles and neices and nephews right over to the front fucking lines and start shooting?

 

Seriously...

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 00:07 | 6134978 joego1
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What would Jesus do with John Bolton?

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 09:46 | 6135899 TheGreatRecovery
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Jesus would say to John Bolton, "get thee behind me Satan."

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 03:36 | 6135230 Sandmann
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He would have told him to fight in Vietnam

Tue, 05/26/2015 - 22:36 | 6134750 Thirtyseven
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"Wars are for the little people"

-said all Neocons & Zionists everywhere.

 

"Only the little people pay Taxes"

-Leona Helmsley

Tue, 05/26/2015 - 22:44 | 6134765 TheFourthStooge-ing
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"I'm a neocon because my dick is so little people laugh at it."
-- John Bolton

Tue, 05/26/2015 - 22:19 | 6134700 kchrisc
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One of the "date with a guillotine" ones rises from the Zionist and neo-con muck to spew more tyranny.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

 

I told my dad in 2008 that in the last two years of the neo-con manchurian puppet's regime, the Zionist and neo-con reptiles of the Bush Jr. era would slither on out of the mud and caves that they will have taken refuge in. That they would then crawl back upon tyranny's shore to feed upon the world and the American country and people once again.

And my dad told me today, "My God, they are! Everyday I see or hear another one of those cocksucker's names on the news." He still tunes into Fox.

He said that he sure hopes that I'm wrong about the CIA-Obama homosexual scandal that is brewing, as "That Clinton-Monica thing was bad, but..." He did not hold how high hopes being that some old friend and peer of CIA-Obama's from Hawaii has come out in the past few days highlighting his homosexuality.

"I did not have sex with that man..."

Tue, 05/26/2015 - 22:13 | 6134679 BraveSirRobin
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I really hate the twisting and misleading of GW. The link he gives does not show Bolton was a "Key Iraq War Architect." It does claim he supported but that is far different than being a "Key... Architect." Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld clearly had key roles in this regard.

Also, the quote used from Bolton does not show this was his idea or intent any point before the present. He laments the current state of affairs in Iraq and Syria and suggests a hoped for outcome that would provide stability under CURRENT conditions. If gives NO creedence to a "decades old plan." His hoped for solution also does NOT include ISIS or a radicalized Sunni regime in Sunni Syria and Irag. I do not know if that is possible at this point, but the quote gives NO EVIDENCE that this was Bolton's plan, of the US government's plan prior to the stupid invasion of Iraq.

You need to face some facts. The facts are that really no-one is in control of anything. People may think they are, but they are not. I think that is why people like GW and his followers are attracted to wild conspiracy theories as it gives them comfort tha some one is actually in control when in actuality we are all random actors bumping into each other and producing random outcomes.

Anyway, leave it to GW to misrepresent information and try to make logic of disconnected information.

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 09:44 | 6135892 TheGreatRecovery
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Was 911 a conspiracy by 24 Arab terrorists?  If we believe that it was, then do we not believe in conspiracies?  And if we believe in conspiracies, are we not all  "conspiracy theorists"?  If we are "conspiracy theorists", then how do we determine that other "conspiracy theorists" are "wild"?  If we can have our "conspiracy THEORIES", then why can't they have THEIR "conspiracy THEORIES"?  Do we call them "wild" because the theories they believe are not the ones the government tells us to believe?  What if the government itself is conspiring?  Aren't governments almost always conspiring?  Didn't the Founding Fathers distrust government, for precisely that reason?  Doesn't government dislike it when we "connect the dots", and find that they lead to a conspiracy, not by some tiny group the government identifies to us, but to the government itself?

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 17:55 | 6137920 TheGreatRecovery
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In "The Prince", Machiavelli taught that the Prince (the ruler, the governor, the government) needs to conspire ALL THE TIME.  CEASELESSLY.  And that "war should be the only study of the Prince".

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 00:03 | 6134963 Transitory
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Nothing is misleading about anything he said. John Bolton was a key member of Project for a New American Century. PNAC was the driving think tank of the Iraq war with open calls for the removal of Saddam Hussein even during the Clinton administration. Just so happens that Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld were also members. They are all on the same page.

The only thing John Bolton laments is that more US missles aren't flying. He and his ilk took Iraq and burned it to the ground and thus is in part responsible for the rise of ISIS. He doesn't deserve to have a voice on the outcome of those two once stable nations.

Tue, 05/26/2015 - 22:41 | 6134761 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Whine is the prerogative of people like BraveSirRobin. To say more not worthy.

Tue, 05/26/2015 - 22:32 | 6134737 WTFUD
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BSR
Hardly a 'stupid ' try EVIL invasion of Iraq and these people deserve the death penalty.

With regard to whom hatched the PLAN does it matter as the PLAN has gone awry.

Still some of these early investors got a ROI ( albeit, at the expense of the tax-payer ) unlike in the Ukraine. In the good spirit of capitalism the USSofA Neocon has got to eat their losses, sadly.

Finally expect diminishing returns to set in on these fraught Adventures with many more HalleFalluja's.

Tue, 05/26/2015 - 22:12 | 6134678 conscious being
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Keep making sense GW. Thanks. The rest of the world is being forced by the full frontal agression to formulate a response to bring down the NeoCon warlords driving Amerika. The american zombies who will not exercise their civic responsibilities to maintain the republic deserve what's coming.

Tue, 05/26/2015 - 22:46 | 6134675 Reaper
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Truth from the mouth of a war monger? "What happens if a social worker ends poverty," from Peter Principle. What happens if a war monger ends wars? What happens if armies are diminished to officers' careers?

What is the neo-con M.O. in the Middle East? Perpetual conflict to divide and thrive. First we fight to keep Iraq together. Then, we fund ISIS to divide Iraq up. What's next, Sunni internal wars to fight Wahhabism?

"Things are not what they seem," Gilbert & Sullivan. Governments lie. Generals lie. War mongers lie. Neo-cons lie. Truth is to reject everything they say.

Tue, 05/26/2015 - 22:10 | 6134672 WTFUD
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GW the folks planning these events have probably never visited the ME, probably couldn't point to this area on a map either. No matter where you go you're pressed to find 2 Arabs who could agree on anything. The USSofA has opened a can of worms that will not end happily for them.

Tue, 05/26/2015 - 22:17 | 6134697 conscious being
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 "the folks planning these events have probably never visited the ME"

Not so WTFUD. Israel is in the ME. All these devils have been to Israel. No chance at calling or influencing the shots if they haven't made frequent trips to Israel. Its a requirement.

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 00:46 | 6135041 WTFUD
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Point taken if you recognise Israel as legitimate but more importantly i am referring to the Neocon's understanding of the Arab Psyche as Israel is but 70 years old.

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 09:36 | 6135861 TheGreatRecovery
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Are Israelis not Arabs?  Where was Abraham born?

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 03:22 | 6139102 conscious being
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Some are. Most are not. The Askanazi are from the Caucus Mtn region formerly known as Khazaria where there ancestors did a mass conversion to Judism.

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 07:59 | 6135404 Counterpunch
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Why is Israel "legitimate," and more importantly, what has that to do with the comment you replied to.

 

Did you actually read this article, or the one linked to at top? If you had, you'd know that many of the people who called for the Balkanization of Iraq and Syria were Israelis or otherwise Zio Jews who had written policy papers which were Israelcentric to say the very least.

 

I suspect you did not read the linked article, and did not read this one carefully.  You might wish to do so.

 

And here's another:

 

“The machiavelian threefold game of the neoconservatives ...

for extra credit:

 

The Unfolding of Yinon's “Zionist Plan for the Middle East ...

 

 

Tue, 05/26/2015 - 22:04 | 6134662 usednabused
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Those neocons have plans for the world and for you and me as well. I think the only good neocon is a dead neocon.

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 05:02 | 6135288 RaceToTheBottom
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So Basically this article is about undoing the previously fucked up creation of borders by an external country?

Why not just leave them alone to create their own borders?

Wed, 05/27/2015 - 06:03 | 6135355 wwxx
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"Why not just leave them alone to create their own borders?"

 

The John Boltons of the USA wouldn't have a cash cow to dominate.

 

wwxx


Tue, 05/26/2015 - 21:26 | 6134560 Prober
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My plan would be a middle east completely cleansed of ALL islamic cult worshipers, all previous countries & borders erased, all lands assimilated into USA.

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