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Guest Post: America Has No Enemy More Lethal Than The Neocon

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Submitted by Michael Scheuer via Non-Intervention.com,

Those men who wrote our Constitution made it perfectly intelligible to anyone who cared to read it. They also left some flexibility in its articles to ensure that as time passed and circumstances changed the document would remain viable as the indispensable protector of the republic they created and of the liberty of citizens who delegated a limited amount of their sovereign power to the national government through its provisions. And after a long and often  angry ratification debate, the first congress added a bill of rights to the Constitution as that document’s first ten amendments. These amendments were fully as clear as the text — perhaps more so — but less flexible than the body of the document because they dealt with the tenets of republican liberty which, if regularly and deliberately violated by the national government, would require that Americans, to paraphrase Jefferson, demolish the existing government and erect a new one that would better safeguard their liberties and their republic’s security.

In recent decades, however, Americans have been treated to an endless stream of politicians, academics, lawyers, and pundits who describe the opaqueness of the Founder’s Constitution and the need for “experts” to decipher or infer what the document means. As a result, we now have presidents who take the country to war on their whim; politicians who are legally bribed by “campaign contributions” from rich individuals, corporations, labor unions, and foreign lobbies and governments based on an absurd reading of the Constitution; a public that is increasingly endangered by flamboyant blasphemers who seek violence and war under the protection of the First Amendment; and the routine criminality of executive branch officials who refuse to obey their oath of office to execute the laws. We also have the overwhelming majority of both political parties willing to destroy the Fourth Amendment in the name of providing for national security against an enemy they have resolutely refused to either stop motivating or militarily annihilate. Together these realities amount to a more-than-full justification for Americans to recall that, as Jefferson wrote, “it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

In the midst of America’s third consecutive despotic presidency — each more despotic than its predecessor, and all more than Nixon — the citizenry now sees two singularly courageous individuals standing up and saying the destruction of the Fourth Amendment must stop. The junior senator from Kentucky, Mr. Paul, and FOX’s senior judicial analyst, Judge Andrew Napolitano, have been and are saying that it is unconstitutional for any congress and/or president to order NSA to collect the electronic communications of all Americans. (NB: Note to Congressman Gowdy: Can’t you get Hillary Clinton’s e-mail from NSA? Or is the unconstitutional collection system rigged so the corrupt elite are exempt?) If the U.S. educational system was not run by people who yearn and work for despotism, and if that system taught civics and history instead of political indoctrination, the senator and the judge would not be so alone in their opposition to tyranny. (NB: Perhaps the sheep-like silence and passivity of much of the public toward this deliberate and cynical violation of their constitutionally protected rights is the best reason for destroying the federal Department of Education at the first opportunity.)

Those who support the destruction of the 4th Amendment, of course, do so because they have knowingly failed to provide for the security of the United States since Osama bin Laden declared war on the nation in August, 1996. The threat from al-Qaeda, and now from its progeny, the Islamic State, exists and is still growing because we have had three presidents who refused to either stop motivating the Islamists to attack us or to annihilate them, their supporters, and their infrastructure with U.S. military power. Instead, they have made Americans pay with the currency of their soldier-children’s lives and limbs and their liberty for the government’s deliberate failure to protect the republic against enemies foreign and domestic. Indeed, the last three presidents and their lieutenants have provided the bulk of America’s domestic enemies, and their transparently unconstitutional and enemy-protecting behavior is ample, accumulated justification for Americans to begin to look for ways to devise ”Guards for their future security.”

Last Thursday evening (21 May 2015) on Bret Baier’s excellent “Special Report”, Judge Napolitano concisely and clearly explained the intention of the White House and Congress to continue their illegal evisceration — it began with the Mr. Bush’s Patriot Act — of the Constitution’s 4th Amendment. Napolitano convincingly made his point and then another panelist — the Neoconservative Charles Krauthammer– replied that he was “dead wrong.” Krauthammer and his Neocon brothers, who labored mightily for the 2003 invasion of Iraq (lost war 1), the 2014 re-intervention (lost war 2), and now for the return ground troops to Iraq to lose again — pray God, three strikes and they are exiled to Israel — have been accurately described by the erudite political scientist Claes G. Ryn as the “New Jacobins”.

The new Jacobin does not want competition in prescribing the right model [of government]. … The new Jacobin is convinced that he knows what is best for all mankind, and if much of mankind shows reluctance to follow his lead, it is to him a sign that injustice, superstition, and general backwardness or a misconceived modernistic radicalism is standing in the way of progress. The new Jacobin is not content with voicing his own ideas and letting the peoples of the world make their own decisions. They must recognize the superiority of his principles. Governments that do not do so appear to him perverse. … The world must be rid of unenlightened, undemocratic societies. If persuasion and diplomatic pressure fail, the forces of democracy should be willing to resort to military means, especially against powers that have the temerity of openly defying the United States. The new Jacobin desires strong, activist government that can enact what he considers virtuous purposes.

Intolerably, individuals fitting Professor Ryn’s description dominate both American political parties and for decades have made foreign policy for the United States. Since the early 1990s they have brought America constant war and its reliable companion, the steadily broadening erosion of constitutional liberty. The names of these people are well known. Beyond Krauthammer, the following are, to name just a few, members of the Jacobin/Neocon fold: Hillary Clinton, Marco Rubio, Madeline Albright, Lindsey Graham, Jeb Bush, Joseph Lieberman, Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee, Barack Obama John Boehner, Joe Biden, Bill Kristol, John Bolton, and the 90-plus Senators who did not join Kentucky’s junior senator in defending the 4th Amendment. All of them, to judge by their words, believe it is the absolute right of the United States to intervene politically and militarily abroad wherever and whenever it chooses, and to impose by force what they define as “universal values”.

But their words are lies, there are no such things as universal values. There is only one value common to all men in all times and that is the universal lust for gaining and exercising arbitrary power, and that power is exactly what the Jacobin/Neocon crowd is after. They want power abroad and they want power over the American citizenry at home. They have proven they cannot attain power abroad — having lost every war they started — and they cannot get power at home unless Americans permit them to continue to systematically hollow out the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

On that score, however, they are incrementally succeeding, and this success is the reason that Americans must begin thinking about what “new Guards for their future security” might be appropriate. And to ensure U.S. citizens can realistically discuss all options for preventing or destroying tyrannical government at home, the Founders left them the Second Amendment. After all, as Jefferson asked in 1787, “And what country can preserve its liberties, if the rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.”

 

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Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:27 | 6142513 johnvallo
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They stack the bodies a thousand high
Upon a monument to touch the sky
They crown the peaks
So far estranged
But down in the dirt, nothing has changed

Nothing has changed
Nothing has changed
Nothing has changed
Nothing has changed

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wRMXTvsCBwQ

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:52 | 6142576 greenskeeper carl
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ill agree with the author about andrew napolitano, i read everything he writes on LRC and like him. However, sorry to burst your bubble, but rand paul is just another garden variety republican. Everything he has ever said that has made him interesting or different he has gone back on. He is not his father, he is not the next Ron Paul. Rand wants to be president a lot more than his father did, and is willing to take any position he thinks will curry favor with the establishment hacks. Ron never gave an inch.

And the idea that some court order is going to make any of the alphabet agencies stop what they are doing is laughable.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 00:09 | 6142617 Ignatius
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Also, as bad as the NeoCons are -- and they suck --  they are just the latest iteration of imperialist's victory over the nativists.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 00:11 | 6142619 Gobbler
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Neo-Conservatism is deader than John McCains left arm.  The tide is turning. 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 00:34 | 6142673 MonetaryApostate
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They wiped their ass with the constitution a long time ago.... 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 07:42 | 6143107 Macchendra
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Hey, don't you know the war party no longer is going under the name Neocon?  It is currently going under the name Hillary vs. Bush.  So yeah cheer the death of the old name.  Their job is to make the people of the countries whose resources we want hate us so much that we feel justified in overthrowing their democracies, and justified in building up our war machine.

 

I saw an image on this site that made it out to be that we were militarily outspent by China.  Frukoff! http://i53.tinypic.com/rumy4n.gif

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 07:17 | 6143045 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Let us hope so. Neo-conservatism is notorious for its historical revisionism as well.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 07:45 | 6143094 BoredRoom
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Douchebags like the author throw around words that they seem to be totally ignorant of the meaning of.....

 

"Neocon" means JEW ASSHOLE THAT DOES NOT VOTE DEMOCRAT......have you turds ever heard of the word Etymology? Look it up.....NEOCON is a slur against jews who did not follow the Democommunist Party Line....

 

If the Author really hates "JEW ASSHOLES WHO DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT" so much, why be such a big pussy and not say it?

 

Repeating propaganda coined by the American COMMUNIST Party makes you look like a fucking retard!

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 07:47 | 6143123 BoredRoom
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AND I FULLY EXPECT A BUNCH OF COWARDS TO DOWN ARROW ME, YET NOT TELL ME WHERE MY POST IS IN ERROR.....

 

Ignorant cowards do that sort of thing.....

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 09:20 | 6143383 swmnguy
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There are plenty of "Neo-Cons" who vote Democratic.  I'd suggest the current front-runner for the Democratic Party Presidential nomination as but one example.  Not Jewish, either, is she.

What the "Neo-Con" phenomenon shows us most plainly is the charade of the "two-party" system in America.  If political parties in America were organized along ideological lines, we would have two bickering factions of one single party.  We might call it the "Corporate Finance Imperial Party," or something equally descriptive.  But  we'd probably call it the "Freedom Party," in keeping with our love of calling things by names meaning the opposite of what they are.

The whole deal with Jewishness is either a distraction, or an example of correlation not implying causation.  Or hell, they don't let me in on their little secrets; maybe it is a huge plot.  But from my perspective and for my purposes, that's not essential or even necessary, and it adds nothing useful to my understanding of what's going on.  I don't care whom they invite to their frankfurter parties; I'm just watching what they do.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 09:50 | 6143493 swmnguy
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Oh, come on.  If Hilary Clinton is elected President, does anyone doubt she'll name Victoria Nuland as Secretary of State?  Do we need to make things more complicated by talking about who's Jewish and who's not?  Or, as Ms. Clinton herself might say, "What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?"

If it makes things more understandable for you to consider Jewishness, you're folllowing a red herring.  McCain isn't Jewish and he's most certainly a Neo-Con.  The significant thread isn't Jewishness.  It's a devotion to Empire, carried out by means financial and military, relying on a relationship between State and Corporate interests exactly as Mussolini described his version of "Fascism."  That's non-denominational, independent of ethnicity, and entirely bi-partisan.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 14:47 | 6144597 11b40
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I think you are correct on most points, but only telling part of the story. We have a dual citizen problem that should not be ignored.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 10:19 | 6143603 Katastrofenhausse
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I'm really tired of baseless accusations of "antisemitism" being tossed around,

The term Neoconservative was coined by people who founded the movement, many of who were themselves Jewish. Even Wikipedia can confirm this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

They were/are largely a group of former Trotskyite Communist intellectuals who decided they hated Stalin more than they hated Capitalism.

The New Left of the 1960s became the Democrat Party of today... so essentially we have both sides of our political Hegelian dialectic environment shaped by Communists and ex-Communists

 

Evidently you dont read much either, try looking up the titles: (I'm not posting Amazon links since I've had bad results with them at ZH comments previously)

Reflections of a Neo-conservative: Looking Back, Looking Ahead (1983) by Irving Kristol (Jewish founder of Neoconservatism)

Neo-conservatism: The Autobiography of an Idea (1995) also by Irving Kristol

The Neoconservative Revolution: Jewish Intellectuals and the Shaping of Public Policy (2007) by Murray Friedman (who happens to be Jewish)

 

David Horowitz's books are interesting reading as well, he was a member of the New Left in the 1960s who later became a prominent Neocon

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horowitz


Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:12 | 6142731 ThroxxOfVron
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"America Has No Enemy More Lethal Than The Neocon"

I can't easily differentiate between the NeoCON and the NeoLIB.

They are so ugly and interchangeable that I have concluded that they are probably merely examples of the two sexes of a single species: the Donkeyphant.  

The NeoCON is male and the NeoLIB is female.  ...I think.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 04:19 | 6142878 Ghordius
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+1 for: "The NeoCON is male and the NeoLIB is female.  ...I think"

from a different perspective, the classical ideological labels for the two old and tired parties in the US are

Republicans: Liberal-Conservatives and Democrats: Social-Liberals

viewed from afar, they are both liberal parties, each with a "flank", one conservative/nationalist and one "socialist"

but both have... no competition. or, also thanks to the electoral system, are very apt in absorbing competition

as seen when their "flanks" recently awakened, the Tea Party and the Occupy Movement, or Libertarians, which would be smack in the middle of them (just more of it)

but ideology is only marginally relevant, in the US, for the simple reason that Americans were always suspicious of ideology, generally speaking

my point is that there is no conservative alternative to Republicans, there is no socialist alternative to Democrats, and Libertarians aren't poised to be an alternative to both liberal parties

and lack of competition makes for a lack of clarity, which then makes so difficult to distinguish NeoCons from NeoLiberals

In a different age we would call US NeoCons oldfashioned Militaristic Imperialists, while US NeoLibs have their roots in the British Globalization worldview, a "soft" form of Imperialism

the one side favours the Military-Industrial Complex slightly more, the other favours the Financial Complex slightly more

(if you think I'm of the opinion that we europeans are "better" in any way: no. the political differences we have is just in our multi-party systems, instead of FPTP)

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 07:32 | 6143055 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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That's slightly simplistic, in my opinion. The outstanding issue that contemporary European politics face is that Social Democracy is steadily losing voters to parties of the Progressive Left. We can observe the phenomenon across the continent.

The reason for this is fairly straightforward: Social Democracy is increasingly looked upon as being too soft towards neo-liberalism, the banks and corporations, and the resurgence of religious conservatism in Western society.

A self-described progressive movement, especially one that has a background of being fiercely anti-Communist during the Cold War period, makes itself suspect when it becomes every more friendly towards bankers, corporate leaders and religious clergy.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 07:38 | 6143098 Ghordius
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you are switching from my original comment focused the US to Europe, with this

our social democrats are usually either pure socialists or social-liberal, and you are describing the passage of voters from the first to the second, aren't you?

on the other side, you can see voters passing from social-conservative parties to pure conservatives, and in some cases liberal-conservatives

("progressive", as a word, might make sense in the US, the UK or the Scandinavian context, but less on the rest of the European continent, imo. "Progressives", btw, are quite engaged in... "Culture Wars")

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 09:59 | 6143535 Citxmech
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Politicians are whores for power, that's for sure - but they are still just the visable but very replaceable whores.  They operate at the pleasure of banking/corporate royalty who transcend the lables of neocon or neolib IMHO. 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 04:47 | 6142896 Counterpunch
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Both are militarists, the difference doesn't much matter, but strictly speaking a Cheney or McCain isn't a neocon, more of a confederate, or, shabbas goy.

The Likudnik Zionism [and Judaism] of the neocons is verboden to discuss - but it is absolutely clear.  The origin is largely The U of Chicago and Leo Strauss and the Kristols, who were 'left wing' until they began to worry about Israel and manufacture the various lies {particularly after the cold war} about identical national interests.  You don't have to be "anti- Israel" to laugh at the notion that the United States is similarly situated strategically or ideologically or otherwise with a small, colonialist, mideast ethnarchy that wants to expand.

 

Neoconservatism is Likudism.  It is proxy Zionism.

 

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:11 | 6142901 Ghordius
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the problem with your "reduction to Zionism" is that it does not explain the relation that the US has to China or Japan, or anyway greater parts of the world

"you guys" are part of the problem. you identify Israel, Zionism and Jews as The One And Only Issue... and stop there, spewing impotent venom

it's... distracting. to those who search for solutions. and so it is a possible "vector" of disinformation and paralysis, which then makes accusations of being nothing else then controlled opposition

when Beer Halls became popular, in Central Europe in the 19th Century, there were two distinct kinds of classic "Agent Provocateurs" from the state's secret polices:

the Anarchist and the Anti-Semite. You know why? It's the two simplest "political activists" honey traps

and so most Anarchist and most Anti-Semite literature of that century was written by... secret police agents

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you know what the simplest solution to the US-Israeli conundrum would be? oh, you are going to hate it: Israel to become a US State... and Palestina, too

simple, clear and logic. and of course because of all that, unthinkable

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:22 | 6142909 Counterpunch
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Ghordius, why don't you do me the courtesy of reading the link I provided. 

 

Your rant is wholly misplaced. 'Neoconservatism' as a movement is without any doubt at all something that originated and is still very tightly linked to Jewish Zionists.

The evidence is overwhelming and abundant.

You wish to somehow ablate the Jewish and Zionist element out of some political ethics and/or ignorance of the history of the movement.  Read the bloody article.

It is not the only form of militarism.  I never said it was.  Nor did I say it is the only issue - but it is th eonly issue where Thought Police spring up right away because 'Jews' are involved.  But I do not subscribe to your ethic of politically correct revisionism.  That said, for e.g. brzezinski is not a 'neocon' but he is widely so misdescribed because of his militarism.

Militarism and hyperinterventionism generally are 'the' problem, but the largest and best funded organ of that militarism is proxy-Zionism.  There is no serious doubt about it. And the thought policing around the motives of these people therefore insulates it from the blunt criticism it deserves.

The neoconservatives were the dominant force in the Bush white house, set up shop to fabricate evidence in the Pentagon's Office of Special plans, and they persist in the state department.  AIPAC and JINSA are neocon outfits as are, at core, a number of think tanks. They adhere to an Israel-centric militarism and often have ties to the first and second wave neocons.

Scheuer knows what he's talking about.  On this topic, I do too.  I don't believe you do.

edit:  bad link above, apologies:  http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:41 | 6142936 Ghordius
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I do not wish to ablate the Zionist element at all

And I subscribe to your identification of the militaristic component of Pro-Zionist movements

Nevertheless, you know what Adolf Hitler's Nazis and Zionists had in common, together with many other political forces before WWII?

The fundamental opinion that "there ought to be a Nation-State for Them". That was one of The Issues, then. And later, we had... Israel

which has a fundamental opinion: that they are there to stay. and that's the part where I can't contradict Israelis, which makes me a bit of a Zionist, too, if you think about it

then Zionism is nothing then that: their "Right to have a Nation State". So the question is only... how. Particularly since Palestinians want to have the same right

one "final" solution would indeed be to have Israel and Palestina becoming part of the US. it would simplify endlessly foreign politics in the region, and put a dampener of hyperinterventionism

a different partial solution would be for the US to forbid dual-citizenship. but you still have the Christian-Zionist issue, then

but I prefer to follow the money, i.e. the economic interests. hyperinterventionism has it roots in the Business of War

since MAD, the "solution" was Cold Wars and Proxy Wars. Now, it even looks like... global agreements on "allowed limited war zones"

and so we have Ukraine, ISIS and the naval theather in the South China Sea. for the greater Glory of the various Military-Industrial Complexes, be them US, Russian or Chinese

I'll read from the link, it looks interesting

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 06:10 | 6142963 Counterpunch
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fair enough, Ghord.

I came across a Hitchens quote yesterday that is not tightly on point, but figured it has some relevance:

 

“Suppose that a man leaps out of a burning building—as my dear friend and colleague Jeff Goldberg sat and said to my face over a table at La Tomate in Washington not two years ago—and lands on a bystander in the street below. Now, make the burning building be Europe, and the luckless man underneath be the Palestinian Arabs. Is this a historical injustice? Has the man below been made a victim, with infinite cause of complaint and indefinite justification for violent retaliation?

 

My own reply would be a provisional 'no,' but only on these conditions. The man leaping from the burning building must still make such restitution as he can to the man who broke his fall, and must not pretend that he never even landed on him. And he must base his case on the singularity and uniqueness of the original leap. It can't, in other words, be 'leap, leap, leap' for four generations and more. The people underneath cannot be expected to tolerate leaping on this scale and of this duration, if you catch my drift. In Palestine, tread softly, for you tread on their dreams. And do not tell the Palestinians that they were never fallen upon and bruised in the first place. Do not shame yourself with the cheap lie that they were told by their leaders to run away. Also, stop saying that nobody knew how to cultivate oranges in Jaffa until the Jews showed them how. 'Making the desert bloom'—one of Yvonne's stock phrases—makes desert dwellers out of people who were the agricultural superiors of the Crusaders.”
? Christopher Hitchens, Hitch-22: A Memoir

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:57 | 6142951 Monty Burns
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" you identify Israel, Zionism and Jews as The One And Only Issue."

Really?  I'm familiar with most ZH posters and I've yet to come across one with that view. But it is the predominant issue because a country cannot operate even close to normally when it's run for the benefit of an ethnostate thousands of miles away.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 06:09 | 6142962 Ghordius
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meaning you don't post similar rants? but ok, let's assume I am too keen on seeing your point of view reduced to this and only this

from an european perspective, the US military alliance to Saudi Arabia is as much relevant

You don't believe that if Israel would not exist, no US Army or Navy would be in that region, do you?

Are you familiar with the history of how Morocco became the first ally of the US?

Or, are you familiar with the history of how US Navy vessels forced Japan to become more... Prussian?

I say it's all a bit more complex then that

As complex as the feelings of a Russian-Israeli married to a US-Israeli and both in Cyprus with a fresh Cypriot and so EU-Passport watching how their EUR bank accounts get blocked

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:28 | 6142746 Savyindallas
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For Christsake -would you guys give rand  break! I don't like a lot of his recent stands, but that's just bullshit politics  -sucking up to Israel somewhat and all  -just trying to stay relevant and stay in the senate and possibly get real power. he learned from his father that always telling the truth is good for about 5-7% of the vote. He's firm on so many issues of great importance -look at his record - So he lies about Israel  -the Jews know he is lying -but he has to keep support of these asshole, ignorant Christian Zionist types -many of whom are in the Tea Party. I trust Rand  -I don't care if he has to lie and pLay the political games with these asshole Republicans  - his strategy may be wrong  -maybe if times change, Ron paul could have gotten elected -but that's still a pipe dream. Fucking leave rand alone  -he's the only serious chance we have of getting someone not completely owned by the criminal bastards who own and run this country. iT'S TOO FUCKING EARLY TO WRITE HIM OFF AS A SELLOUT.  

who the fuck else are you going to vote for that has a chance? The Amerikan sheeple are idiots - they have been conned and lied to and fooled all their lives -with great success. Maybe an honest guy like Rand, not owned by the banksters can lie his way into real power  - I say Go for it rand  -as distateful as it is, if you have to suck Bibi's cock to get real power - please do so. I have no choice but to trust you  -as we are seriously fucking running out of time. 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:54 | 6142775 ThroxxOfVron
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"if you have to suck Bibi's cock to get real power  "

 

You are a Fool.

Real power cannot be sucked out of anyone's cock.

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 04:03 | 6142869 zvzzt
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well, it comes out with power... (less so than when we were younger)

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:25 | 6142915 Counterpunch
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tell that to every candidate who has to speak at AIPAC, or give the man dozens of standing ovations for cynical platitudes and obvious lies, or who have to have the obligatory photo op at the wailing wall.

 

Any healthy nation state would not allow AIPAC et al. to literally write legislation, and act as a proxy for a far right wing party in a small foreign state.

 

But here we are.

 

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 07:31 | 6143082 newdoobie
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We let bankers literally write legislation, we let the Petrol industry literally write legislation, we let lawyers literally write legislation, we let the MIC literally write legislation, MAYBE THE PROBLEM IS THE LEGISLATORS!

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 09:54 | 6143517 The Merovingian
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Well, there is a little blue dress with stains on it that somewhat rebutts that .... 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 17:53 | 6145258 11b40
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Or ask the guy who just got caught paying $3mil in hush money.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:54 | 6142948 Monty Burns
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You could be right. But I doubt it.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 06:15 | 6142969 Counterpunch
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Rand is for sure still the least worst Republican.

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 06:41 | 6142991 nmewn
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Yes indeed.

Also, when compared to anyone on the donkey side, he's head & shoulders above them as well in my estimation.

And for anyone who disputes the observation, I would ask they provide the example of "their preferred candidate" who values the fourth amendment enough to stand on the senate floor performing a fillibuster defending it or anything else, that is afterall the "legal" venue they are all vying for.

Well, there isn't one, is there? ;-)

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 07:37 | 6143093 Ward cleaver
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+100; The reality of politics is you have to get their first to make a change. Given that 90% of the electorate are idiots, one must do things that they normally wouldn't. I still wonder what happened to Obo's mom who he trotted out non-stop during his first election run in order to prove to the white people he was half white, that is color blind. Haven't seen her since.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:52 | 6142947 Monty Burns
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+100

Unfortunately.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 06:23 | 6142973 BlowsAgainstthe...
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Exactly.  Rand has already kissed Bibi's brown ring.  He'll intervene on command.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 06:58 | 6143012 Shock and Awe (not verified)
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Yes I agree. I do hope that if Ron falls ill, on his deathbed he calls young Rand in to say goodbye, calls him close, closer Rand, closer. And slits his fucking throat! Ear to ear and 6 inches deep.

What a sick sellout that fucking kid is. His father must be very disappointed.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 09:47 | 6143480 jerry_theking_lawler
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I 'agree' to your points....but Ron Paul never had an honest chance as President with his stances....maybe Rand is 'acting' like the other politicians.

Either way, would you rather have Rand Paul or Jeb Bush...or Hilterly Clinton?

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:22 | 6142515 KnightTakesKing
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We need more men like Jefferson in this day and age.

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:41 | 6142555 Freddie
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Do not forget the NeoLibs who are usually dual shit-i-Zens like Feinstein, Schumer, Boxer and the rest.  They are just a bit quieter about it.  Let the goys like McCain, Graham, Flake, Rubio and Corker make all the noise.

http://www.abeldanger.net/2014/04/crown-crime-family-of-chicago.html

More about General Dynamics and the Crown-Krinsky family and Chicago non-Italian mob plus JFK's murder.  They own McCain, Flake, Obama and loads of other NeoCons.

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:53 | 6142577 Karaio
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My vision is "outside", I am Brazilian and I think you have a bigger threat, much higher.

Are the "anglozionist" legislators / counselors / banksters / lobbyists with Israeli and North American passports.

People playing on both sides.

These guys are not at all interested in the misery of the American people.

These guys only think about money, power, influence and manipulation.

Unfortunately they have killed the goose that lays the golden egg which is the US.

They forgot that the world is tired of so much intrigue.

People's lives is not a soap opera.

There was a miscalculation on the part of those guys, forgot that the rest of the world both catch the guy will fight back.

All they imagined will collapse.

The good always subdue evil.

It is a historical constant.

Are harsh words?

They are!

You want to hear?

I do not think so!

Then suffer the consequences ....

The end is not near, he came!

: - /

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 00:52 | 6142703 Anusocracy
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You are right.

The alpha-males had no compunction about killing others so that they and their offspring could survive.

Hasn't changed in millions of years.

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:24 | 6142516 Dickweed Wang
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Not all Zionists are Neo-Cons but virtually all Neo-Cons are Zionists.

Nazi's did not fade away at the end of WWII . . . . they changed their name to Neo-Con.

Think the terms Nazi and Zionist are polar opposites? Better start researching the un-censored/un-edited version of history . . . . .

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:11 | 6142728 Savyindallas
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You really insult the German people and Natrional Socialists when you compare them to Neocons and keep repeating the false caricatures and stereotypes of what National Socialists were about. The victors write history- stop spouting propaganda with this ridiculous use of the term nazi to exemplify all that is wrong and evil in the world. If you want to see pure evil  -look at Stalin and the Bolsheviks (largely Jewish) and Mao in China--or even Dick Cheney or Richard Perle. 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 04:00 | 6142867 zvzzt
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well said! thanks for that

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:21 | 6142911 Karl von Bahnhof
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You still forget that Uncle Joe was fighting Trotsky, father of all neocons.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:49 | 6142944 Monty Burns
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Well said. But Hitler and the Nazis are such useful tools for frightening us into doing whatever the Tribe wants that they'll never be let die.  Why, there's even a whole TV channel devoted to them...the Hitler Channel. Whoops, the History Channel.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 08:26 | 6143230 Dickweed Wang
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. . . . stop spouting propaganda with this ridiculous use of the term nazi to exemplify all that is wrong and evil in the world.

i never said that Nazi's exemplify all that is wrong and evil in the world and agree with you 100% that Stalin, Mao and the Cheney/Bush clan put the Nazi's to shame in many respects.  That said, regardless of how history was written there is no way anyone could defend some of the actions of the Nazi's in WWII.

Nor could anyone defend the actions of the "Allies" in their indiscriminate fire bombing of cities like Hamburg and Dresden or the nuking of the cities in Japan - or worst of all the genocide of the German people AFTER WWII was over (primarily at the hands of the Jews or at their direction via their influence in Washington DC). 

Nothing I said is propaganda - it's all a matter of perspective and there is plenty of pure evil to go around on whatever side you happen to proscribe to.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 09:15 | 6143367 BeaverCream
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That being said, sometimes you have a choose a side.  I side with the nation that was wrested, by one man, from the grip of a corrupt elite central banking system that was sucking on them like parasites and was turned into the world's super power in under a decade.  They could see.

Our true enemies declared war on the man and the people long before the world did.

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 09:49 | 6143491 conscious being
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Replying to DickWeed. In suport of DickWeed's position -

Hellstorm - The Real Genocide of Nazi Germany - Documentary

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 09:18 | 6143372 BeaverCream
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Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:38 | 6142763 Kirk2NCC1701
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Non-Zionist Neocons are modern day descendants and ideological disciples of the "Manifest Destiny" nut jobs of the 1700-1900 era.

I think of them as Manifest Destiny 2.0

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 06:57 | 6143011 Fun Facts
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Leo Strauss is considered the godfather of the neoconservative movement.

Leo Strauss was a professor at the University of Chicago. Paul Wolfowitz was his protege.

Strauss advocated a kings and serfs communist style regime where the enlightened elite manufactured enemies, told noble lies, and followed the protocols.

Importantly, the neocons do not believe in the concept of natural rights which is embodied in the US Constitution. They believe all rights are granted to the serfs by the enlightened elite ruling class.

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:26 | 6142521 VW Nerd
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I am fairly certain our founding fathers and most "American freedom fighters" of the day were on King George's terrorist list.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 06:55 | 6143007 DaddyO
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III percenters?

DaddyO

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:27 | 6142522 Seize Mars
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Zionism Delenda Est

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:28 | 6142525 JLee2027
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The Founders were isolationists, wanting no part of foreign wars, but conseravtives politically outside of that. Look at Washington's response to the Whiskey Rebellion. Back in the 1770's these were called "liberals', referring to the freedom of men from Government so the definition has changed. 

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:41 | 6142553 Augustus
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Convert the grain to whiskey so that it can be transported.  Govt. must tax that form of sale of agricultural product.  Send out the army.

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:44 | 6142559 Freddie
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American conservatives including Bibi loving evenagelicals who love the army/military, endless wars and weapons systems and MIC.  They are as dumb as the left.

The Framers were for a volunteer militias and not a standing full time army let alone another Roman empire with it's legions.   The USA is so like dying corrupt Rome.

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 00:01 | 6142601 Augustus
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Heh, Freddie,

 

Whose plow do you pull?

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:05 | 6142900 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Heh, Augustus.

Whose pillow do you bite?

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 07:46 | 6143115 Ward cleaver
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Yes, it took Rome about 200 years to collapse from its peak but in today's world of information speed that could be cut by 90% which sounds about right to me. Just this week I spoke with 3 different people that said they don't watch the news because it's dishonest. People r starting to "get it" but there's a long way to go.

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:28 | 6142526 Seize Mars
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If there is a ZH post designed to get me fucking enraged, this would be it.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 03:19 | 6142838 Future Jim
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"a ZH post designed to get me fucking enraged"

That's the point. They need someone to get mad enough to shoot at their pawns or front men with an AR-15.

Blaming necons but not progressives also reveals its true intent because neocons are Republican progressives.

The American Progressive Manifesto captures what they are all about.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 04:25 | 6142882 Ghordius
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you know that the "Progressive Manifesto" that you linked is a criticism of it, don't you? just saying

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:17 | 6142907 WOAR
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I would be very happy if someone actually had the guts to use an AR-15 on a congressman.

Now THAT would be a war worth celebrating. I might even light off some fireworks commemmorating that day, long in the future.

Like 4th of July.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 06:54 | 6143006 Cloud9.5
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You must want them banned.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 10:47 | 6146743 WOAR
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No, I want firearms to be used correctly - on the enemy.

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:30 | 6142528 geekz_rule
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lol. OBL and ISIS are real? LOL

dafuq?

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:31 | 6142532 Tracerfan
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NeoCons are the most lethal threat to the entire world, not just the United States.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 07:49 | 6143128 Dickweed Wang
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NeoCons are the most lethal threat to the entire world, not just the United States.

Agreed 100%. I would only add that combined with their Zionist brethren they constitute the greatest pure evil, and most duplicitous intent, that the world has seen in a long long time . . .

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:35 | 6142544 stormsailor
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amen and amen

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:36 | 6142545 Duc888
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Cocksucker Charles Krauthammer needs to head over to the mid east front and fucking center with a M-14.  Put up or STFU asshole.  I hope you take a bullet to the head.

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:47 | 6142565 stormsailor
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fuck that, don't give him a real rifle, give him one of those poodle shooters

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:56 | 6142582 greenskeeper carl
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I don't think it matters if you arm him or not, I don't think wheelchairs roll very well in the sand, just sayin'.

 

But I agree, in theory. John Kerry is the master of this, and I despise him for it. You can youtube his senate trstimony about vietnam, "how can you ask a man to be the last one to die for a mistake", and he said a lot of stuff that made sense regarding why exactly we were sending americans over to die fighting in vietnam when it posed no threat whatsoever to us. Now that he is the big wig in the suit, and its other people getting sent to die in pointless wars in countries that weren't a threat to us, everything is hundy-dory. makes me sick

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:36 | 6142546 Augustus
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It must be difficult to find such horse shit with proper spelling that can be published.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 00:00 | 6142599 bid the soldier...
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Not difficult.

I see your comments here all the time.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 00:02 | 6142603 Augustus
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Then make an effort to learn.

Glad you noticed.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:05 | 6142721 bid the soldier...
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Its too late for most humans to learn that this time it IS different.  Either you've been aware of that for a while or you think the cavalry is going to ride in and pay off our $18 trillion debt.

Worse than that, maybe you even think that the US is not provoking Russia and China with its massive deployment of men and arms in Eastern Europe and in Japan Australia and the Philippines?

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:39 | 6142765 Karaio
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Hit the target!

:-)

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:46 | 6142563 GRDguy
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You want your country back???   Then never vote for an incumbent again, ever, in the primaries.  Then vote for the least-financed person of your choice.  Then repeat.  Out of 330 million Americans, there are thousand of more-than-capable people who are not sociopaths that could represent us 99%.  They would gladly serve us well. But they won't sell their soul to financial sociopaths because they know they'll be right back in the neighborhood when their term is done, and know they'll be exposed to whatever laws they passed (or undid) the rest of their lives. I'm sure they would NOT pass anything they couldn't have copies of or things they couldn't discuss with their constituents.  

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:03 | 6142716 Savyindallas
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problem is that most of their constituents are brainwashed sheeple who do not have the capacity for independent thought and believe and do what they are told. 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 09:54 | 6143514 conscious being
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The problem is Diebold will get it done regardless of "the vote".

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 08:13 | 6143194 Dickweed Wang
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. . . . . Then vote for the least-financed person of your choice. Then repeat.

Although I agree with your premise here the problem is that if any of the non-status quo candidates really started to have a shot at being elected, mark my words, they would start dropping like flies - i.e. drowning in their bathtubs, nail guns to the head, heart attacks, car accidents, the oldie but goodie - child porn on their office computer(s) and in the high profile cases outright public assassinations (remember George Wallace?) just to make a point that YOU DON'T FUCK WITH THE SYSTEM!

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:50 | 6142570 SillySalesmanQu...
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There is no justice for all, but for the select few, who never have to face it.
The Fourth Amendment has been eradicated by the select few, who feel that their brand of "order" should be the law.
One day, the select few will be put down with our brand of "order." Judgement will be swift and severe. I hear the sound of blades being sharpened and hunters practicing their marksmanship.
Strange times we are living in...

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:54 | 6142579 Atomizer
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It's about forming a one party system. Thankfully, we'll kill them. 

The Creature from Jekyll Island Lecture Part 1, The Federal Reserve System by G. Edward Griffin

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eLjZPTbRdG4

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:58 | 6142592 fascismlover
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The problem, maybe...just maybe, might be with humans.  This has all happened before...over and over and over again over eons and eons of human history.  Isn't that what hell was supposed to be...repitition?

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:59 | 6142593 Ms No
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I thought Hedgers came to a consensus long ago that this left right thing was smoke and mirrors.

The real power is invisible, if it wasn't it would be stupid power and this power structure is far too old for that.  Politicians have status within the power structure, they are part of the framework not the power itself.  Neocons have had power bestowed upon them by real power.  The power these assholes have is relegated to them by their position, there position is temporary and the power lies in the position not the occupant.  The Neo's do not create their own platform.  We don't know who the real power holders are.

Thu, 05/28/2015 - 23:59 | 6142595 Atomizer
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A sniper rife will take out Democrat or Republican selling off the United States of America. They wouldn't be apart of the Global setting. Be forewarned. 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 00:01 | 6142600 kchrisc
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The craziest thing is that many have not yet figured out that CIA-Obama is just a neo-con stooge keeping the White House Puppet seat warm until the neo-cons and Zion get their future dictator installed after 2016.

A lot of things highlight this, but none better than NDAA 1012. The noiZ-media avoided, and still avoids it, etc. I.e. the whole thing is theater.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 00:05 | 6142609 q99x2
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Neocons are not an American problem. They are a world problem that is funded by banksters. They world needs to take away their funding and the necons will fall and most likely be arrested and prosecuted.

Arrest Lloyd Blankfein and Jamie Dimon for treason and financial terrorism. End the FED.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:03 | 6142624 Oscar Mayer
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Seeing as how the 17th is unconstitutional as it violates Article 5's prohibition against taking the states' right to equal suffrage in the Senate via amendment. Being unlawful to begin with, the 17th does not need to go through the repeal process, all the states' have to do is withdraw their consent to it, as per Article 5, and seat their selection of Senators.


IF the states' legislators were to do this, it would effectively end the 100+ year rule of progressive (socialist) democracy and restore the Republic. It would also decimate the DNC/RNC national party apparatus and cut the corporate bribery funneled through campaign funding by half, leaving the remaining half ineffectual. And of course, it would toss the biggest monkey wrench into the gears of the Neoliberal/Neocon's empire building machinations.

Over time, the people would withdraw their attention from the newly established Federal and focus upon the politics of local and state import.  States will regain their individual, independent personalities, establishing laws that work towards their own population's ends independent of other states and of Federal interference. We would, once again, become a nation of states, distinct.


Fri, 05/29/2015 - 00:24 | 6142651 Cabreado
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This article is all over the place.

Stop with the labels -- it only provides cover.

This is nothing more than a case of common criminals having reached high places, and left unchecked, working in concert.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 00:38 | 6142684 Chad_the_short_...
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Can we just call a spade a spade and say JEWS instead of this bullshit neocons?

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 08:02 | 6143158 Dickweed Wang
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Can we just call a spade a spade and say JEWS instead of this bullshit neocons?

Not all Jews are Neo-Cons (or even to a lesser degree, Zionists) but most Neo-Cons are Jews.  Also, there are many Jews in the world that don't buy into the Zionist/Neo-Con ideology.  One of the traps I see in this is too many people tend to paint with way too broad of a brush when it comes to those issues . . . .

Glen Hagee is a perfect example of a non-Jewish white man who happens to be one of the most rabid Zionists in the world.  IMO his crazy Evangelical Christian ideology is more of a threat to world peace than most Neo-Cons and Zionists out there in that he has tens of millions of brainwashed followers in the USA that believe his bullshit 100%.  What kind of professed "Christian" and follower of the teachings of Jesus Christ would believe that bombing Iran is a good thing?  Total nut-job . . . .

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 00:43 | 6142690 begintowin
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The American people must exercise the only peaceful option left to restore the federal republic
which is rapidly being transformed into a unitary style government like much of Europe.
On November 8, 2016, the nation must stay home and not give its consent to continue being abused
by the plutocracy of puppets bribed by the global bankers, multinational corporations and foreign
state lobbyists.

Abstinence is not benign as some would believe, it is a very powerful check on government when
it becomes so infested with opportunists who pursue their own self-serving aggrandizement through the
passage of law and regulation to benefit themselves and their criminal syndicate. Without a
democratic mandate the cabal cannot hold power and therefore the legislative function of law
making is extinguished. The bureaucracy remains in place until the fiscal budget ends in
October of the following year which means social security payments will still be made, Medicare claims
will still be processed and other central government functions will continue. During those 10 months,
the people must demand from the governors of each of their respective States new elections with
candidates who are independent of the two-party dogma that has corrupted Washington, DC.

An implied vote of 'No Confidence" or "None of the Above" is the only sensible way to end this long
running nightmare of tyrannical fascism and nationalism that is destroying the country.

The motto of new liberty must be, "Dissolve it, start over!"

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 00:53 | 6142697 Cityzerosix
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I remember as a kid watching Vietnam, Laos or Cambodia being blown to Hell every night as shown on our TV. Its because they are Communists I was told. My father who had been in Avro Lancasters for many years thought it was just an extension of the anti-Fascist campaign to protect freedom and democracy from psycho-contol freak states. The materialist triumphalism of the USA was anavoidable -everywhere else was subhuman grim monotony because they had failed to grasp the beneficial grip of free-market ideology. This insane myth ran on for decades but was only that...an insane Myth.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 00:52 | 6142702 MEFOBILLS
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 We don't know who the real power holders are.

 

Yes we do.  They used to be called World Government.  They are Jewish/Kabbala.  The author of the article refers to Jacobians. These were Masonic lodges that were infiltated by World Government. 

International World Government goes back thousands of years, and was funded initially by the East/West exchange difference between gold/silver.  The caravan routes across the middle east were the source of this power.

Kabbala in turn is Zohar.  Money in turn was invented in the Temples, and control means then passed down in oral tradition.  Oral tradition later became codified in Talmud.

It is secret society and conspiracy, no question about it.  Kings or Queens in the past who wanted to do right by their population would be assasinated.

Zionism sprang from Herzyl, and they seduced Rotschild.  This new form of World Government morphed to Zionism, which is now the latest control method. 

During French revolution, they proclaimed themselves as the 300.  So, it is 300 Kaballa mystics at the head of the pyramid, and they use money power control mechanisms.  Kabala is occult means.  For example, all of the Kennedy Clan was murdered on Occultic periods when the constellations were in a certain alignment and on numerologically significant dates.  The Kennedy clan, starting with Joeseph, was onto the game and they were trying to smoke out the Kabbalists.

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:12 | 6142733 Cityzerosix
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"I have come to teach you about what is, about what was, and what will be, in order for you to understand the invisible world and the world that is visible, and the immovable race of perfect humanity."   The Apocryphon of John

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 04:29 | 6142887 Ghordius
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you take a lot of ingredients from politics and history, throw them in a blender and switch on the thing

the East/West exchange difference between gold/silver? it started with the Athenian Hegemony, "Europe" versus "Asia"

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:00 | 6142711 MEFOBILLS
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Here is an article worth a read.  It shows the Jewish Kaballa attack on the Kennedys.  

The whole objective is to rebuild the temple, no matter how long it takes, and even if the earth is to become a smoking hole.  Islam is in the way, and Christians are just goy animals to be used as foot soldiers.

Even if you don't believe in religion, they do.  

http://johndenugent.us/the-jewish-war-on-the-kennedys/

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:04 | 6142718 thebigunit
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This article should be titled "I Hate Neocons".

It rages against a list of people who the author labels as "neocons", but it never explain what MAKES them a "neocon".

I guess that whenever the writer points at someone and hisses "neocon", we're all supposed to nod our little bobbleheads.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:13 | 6142734 Seek_Truth
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Labels, like isms, never get to the point of who is the problem.

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:35 | 6142759 bid the soldier...
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Oh, it's not hard to figure out what neocons are.

They are iniquitous atheists.  WRIT LARGE.

Without a belief in God, morality is optional for the neocon. One only has to look at the neocons in Washington to see that most of them have opted for power and left morality on the steam table.

FUCK THE EU.

Noodleman is the sorry example of the degenerate profligate who feigns a belief in God while conveying the order of a false flag attack on civilians in the Maidan. 

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 04:11 | 6142872 Lurk Skywatcher
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An immoral person will be immoral with or without a belief in god.

Morality changes over time as society changes, while religion by very definition defies change at every opportunity.

It was once considered acceptable to own slaves, and now it is not. The teachings of religion have not changed between then and now.

Was religion morally correct then?, or is it morally correct now?

Morality is not a derivative of religion, rather the other way around.

So while the teachings of a religion defy change, the believer will interpret them to suit the current morality... or lack thereof.

Thus, it is entirely possible for an immoral person to be the epitome of religious faith.

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 11:13 | 6143796 usednabused
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"Thus, it is entirely possible for an immoral person to be the epitome of religious faith."

Not really, they can pretend to be the epitome, but thats as far as it goes.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 13:26 | 6144280 bid the soldier...
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Of course you are right.

People either have faith or they don't.  And of the people who say they do, either they are telling the truth or they are decieving themselves.

Neocons claim belief in a supreme being with morality and ethics but when you examine their claim, it's their own definition of morality and ethics that govern their behavior.

Most say they are religious because it's comme il faut. 

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 08:22 | 6143214 headhunt
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Pssst ... those are communists, 'democrats', elitists - leftists all

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 13:11 | 6144228 bid the soldier...
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Pssst.... no doubt

communists 'neocons' gained control of the Russian government. And Nazi 'neocons were limited to commanding the government of Germany.

Ah, but when the neocons came to power in America on the coat tails of the failed actor, Ronald Reagan, they dominated a government whose might hadn't been seen since ancient Rome.

'democrats', leftists, elitists all.  Like the neocons?  

Ha Ha. You compare piss ants to scorpions.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 14:50 | 6144613 thebigunit
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Well . . .

Without a belief in God, morality is optional for the neocon. One only has to look at the neocons in Washington to see that most of them have opted for power and left morality on the steam table.

This might serve as sort of a definition for a "nihilist", but what makes it a "neocon", other than you curling your lip when you say "neocon".

Also, you don't define a term using the term you're defining.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 15:55 | 6144840 bid the soldier...
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You're right

I should have said "the neocons I'm familiar with have all defined 'morality and ethics' by their own, demented, anything-goes standards."

The lives of living, breathing people are just potential collateral damage.

The 12 year long, ongoing destruction of the nation of Iraq is the piece de resistance of Neocon accomplishment.

 

Is curling one lip at the very scum of creation an extraditable offense in Big Unit's Shangra La?

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:16 | 6142737 Youri Carma
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Let first get some facts straight here before going into useless arguments:

- 911 was an inside Job organized by the neo-con 'Crazies of the basement'.

- Bin Laden was (And the Bin Laden family still is) a good friend of the Bushes and are supported by the CIA. His CIA cover name was Tim Osman.

- ISIS/Al Qaeda was set up by the CIA first to combat the Russians in Afghanistan later to topple the governments of Libya and Syria. Syria because of the Arabs who want to have their pipelines going trough.

If these facts are not acknowledged any further discussion is useless.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:24 | 6142749 mastersnark
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"And after a long and often  angry ratification debate, the first congress added a bill of rights to the Constitution as that document’s first ten amendments."

Gee, there's a giant hint something was futzed with the USCON from the beginning...

They had to add the BoR as someone (anti-federalists) noticed, "Gee, this document creates an all powerful central government with no limits on its ability to tax, regulate commerce or provide for the 'general welfare' so maybe we should add some feel-good provisions that have something to do with 'liberty' so the people we represent don't end up hanging us by our necks until dead?"

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 01:34 | 6142756 luckylongshot
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What needs to be added to this article is that the lust for power it describes has a name and that is narcissism. This means that neocons should not be looked at as just warmongers, or modern day Nazis, but as being mentally ill. History shows a tragic cycle of power being centralised, leading to it being abused, leading to revolution and then to a new leaadership that then begins to overcentralise power and start the next cycle. The solution to this is choose leaders who treat people with respect and decentralise power, and there is a wealth of evidence in the business world to show this ie. Kotter and Heskett. We need to wake up to the dangers of having mentally ill political representatives and get rid of them. 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 02:42 | 6142815 DutchBoy2015
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George Washington, T. Jefferson, Franklin, et al.  warned about the Jews and private central banking. 

Zionist Jews control the USA lock, stock and barrel, (Europe also)

As per Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

 

and they WILL take you to war , every fucking time and 90 percent of the people will follow their orders.

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:37 | 6142933 Monty Burns
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HATE FACTS!

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 02:38 | 6142817 Quantum Nucleonics
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It's both sad and funny how uninformed people have become.  Take the term, "neocon".  It was originally a term applied to leftist political pundits that drifted right on Stalinism and the USSR.  It was also intended as a subtle anti-semitic epithat.  The USSR and anti-semitism, raw meat for a segment of ZH readers.

Dick Cheney is a lot of things, but he isn't really a "neocon".

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 02:43 | 6142821 DutchBoy2015
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Cheney and all the rest of the GOYIM will do what their Zionist masters demand or they will get the JFK treatment.

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:35 | 6142931 Monty Burns
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In addition many have confluent interests. If you're part of the MIC - and a traitor, of course - you can do very well out of America fighting Israel's enemies. Cheney and Rumsfeldt being prime examples. 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 04:47 | 6142895 Counterpunch
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Neoconservatism is Likudism.  It is proxy Zionism.

But it is "anti-Semitic" to point out that a movement was comprised very largely of right wing Jews, right?

That notion is simply absurd. 

They were and largely are Israel Firster Zionist Jews.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:16 | 6142905 Ghordius
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leaving out, nevertheless, the political/religious phenomenon of Christian Zionists. which probably you would relate to Zionist propaganda, particularly in the media

and be possibly correct, but nevertheless not complete

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:52 | 6142940 Counterpunch
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They are a big part of the problem. They are 40 million or so [estimates vary quite a bit] - but they didn't originate neoconservatism, they aren't the ones running AIPAC or the think tanks.  They are largely useful idiot votes for not only the neocon agenda, but right wing militarism generally. 

And they don't know their own New Testament.  At all.  They were lied to and deceived and some of them, at least, are waking up, in part because of the sheer evil horror of the last 2 major IDF assaults on Gaza.

 

 

 

edit:  corrected link from above:

“The machiavelian threefold game of the neoconservatives ...
Fri, 05/29/2015 - 08:38 | 6143253 Dickweed Wang
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Dick Cheney is a lot of things, but he isn't really a "neocon".

Maybe, maybe not.  One thing he is reported to be is a hard core pedophile with a cock like a horse . . . .

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 02:45 | 6142822 DutchBoy2015
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Murdered Past CIA Director William Colby: "The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." 
 
"If you (Senator Wellstone) vote against the war in Iraq, the Bush administration will do whatever is necessary to get you. There will be severe ramifications for you and the state of Minnesota." -- Vice President Dick Cheney to Senator Paul Wellstone (D), October, 2002, just days before Wellstone's death in a suspicious airplane "accident".
 
..."Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we Bushs have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." --- George Bush Sr. 1992
 
"For we are opposed, around the world, by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy..." (Zionism)  -- President John F. Kennedy
Fri, 05/29/2015 - 08:32 | 6143244 falak pema
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the zionism in brackets is yours or was it JFK's ?

In JFK's days the 1967 war, the 6 day war, had not occurred. It was during that war that Israel aggrandised its territories (Golan, Gaza and West Bank including East Jersualem) and earned the condemnation of the world to fall on it via UN resolutions and De Gaulle's reprobatory speech of "an arrogant and oversure people". 

Zionism was thus seen afterward to be out in the open as an aggressive, acquisitive colonial strategy, a carry-on from FAILED invasion of Suez back in 1956 (when UK and France were kicked out from the ME equation).

So I would be surprised if JFK openly referred to Zionism as a monolithic conspiracy in his days. JFK was more concerned with Khroutchev and Berlin stand-off, then with Bay of Pigs botched aftermath in Cuban crisis; also the rising plays of Nam CIA beginnings which he wanted to turn down ! 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 09:46 | 6143477 DutchBoy2015
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The CIA are Zionist controlled.   JFK knew that,.  JFK was against Israel getting nukes.  There were many reasons they wanted JFK dead.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 18:31 | 6145381 11b40
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But JFK was messing with the most fundamental ingredient in the stew - hard currency.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 04:00 | 6142846 Lea
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"There is only one value common to all men in all times and that is the universal lust for gaining and exercising arbitrary power, and that power is exactly what the Jacobin/Neocon crowd is after."

That is only what 'Murikans believe. The premise has been researched. Unfailingly, in every given society, it's been proved wrong.
This author is confusing sociopaths with humans.

Sociopathy, also called antisocial personality disorder, is a mental disease and certainly not the norm.

PS: Don't believe whoever says it "begins in childhood". It doesn't, save for big pharma and doctors who are just pill-pushers, and will be all too happy to medicate your eleven-year old son or daughter. Only after puberty is when it can start showing.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 04:41 | 6142893 Ghordius
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sociopaths are human, too. they are roughly 1% of the population. and their issue is a lack of empathy

in short, what 99% feel naturally, they have to learn the hard way: by learning... social rules

a sane society accomodates for them. by making social rules more transparent for those who need them explained in detail

an less sane society accepts some people saying "everything goes" and "if you are not cheating, you are not trying hard enough"

while forgetting that sociopaths take those things... literally, and without any natural understanding of any implied social consequences

in short, if you allow sociopathic "rules of the game", you don't have to wonder that sociopaths excel in them, while the others scratch their heads and ask what went wrong

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 07:47 | 6143118 Lea
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"sociopaths are human, too"

More akin to hairless apes. Humans are defined by a set of characteristics, amongst which, precisely, empathy.

"they are roughly 1% of the population. and their issue is a lack of empathy"

Yes, and that lack of empathy is what makes sociopathy a dehumanizing disease.

All the rest you've written I agree with.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 08:04 | 6143160 Ghordius
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Lea, I disagree. "dehumanizing" is a process and an act. Which has roots in our tribal past

it starts with identifying a "We" and then a "Them". And then it goes further by assigning lots of blame on "Them"

at the end, in order to ease the natural human restraint in killing others... They are declared either sub-humans or non-humans, or hairless apes

or a disease, to be rooted out. anything can serve, any attribute. race, religion, psychological setup, profession, political stance, whatever

where is your empathy? I was a (borderline teenaged) sociopath

Do you wish to... become one? That is what lies at the end of that road

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:26 | 6142916 Monty Burns
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The author is mincing around the reality here, afraid to step on the Third Rail.  The Neocons are all about pushing Israel's interests which in many cases coincide with those of the MIC (e.g. lots of wars fought by Americans against Israel's enemies). The goy supporters/enablers are either in on the racket (e.g. Cheney, Rumsfeldt), bought-and-paid-for and/or blackmailed Politicians or else fools like Biden.

This isn't just semantics. If you don't get to the root of the problem you won't fix it.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 05:33 | 6142928 DutchBoy2015
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Bibi Netanyahu caught on hot mike ''The Christians are useful idiots, but don't tell them that, we need them right now''.

There are several people here that profess to be Christian.

Most Christians are convinced the Bible is the word of ''god'' but in fact its the word of the Jew.

Its probably the biggest hoax book EVER foisted on the Western World.

Try engaging them in a reasonal , logical, reasoning conversation and it always reverts in the end with them spewing ''babblical passages''.


Fri, 05/29/2015 - 10:42 | 6143673 wendigo
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I believe the old testament was written primarily by the Levites. 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 10:42 | 6143669 teutonicate
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+1000. Time for some root cause analysis - and some house cleaning.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 06:45 | 6142994 sam site
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Your key phrase is that the  people preserve the spirit of resistance

Unfortunately 95% of the population has already been captured and their critical and clear thinking abilities have already been disabled through a physical poisoning and handicapping process.

Toxic injury creates and captures sheeple incapable of awareness and much less likely resistance.

Hitler learned from American eugenicists that fluoride makes people docile and apathetic. 

In fact toxic, sick people are easy to manage because they are injured, vulnerable, weak and easily manipulated.

Toxic injury from fluoridated water, vaccines, and GMOs to name a few, produce a helpless, dependent, weak public that displays a blind loyalty to the Establishment in their stampede to find a safe haven to recover their health.

It's a program of handicapping and capturing the public through an emotional dependence and search for a safe haven to heal from toxic injury that drives this blind

capture and loyalty.  To all injured people, the Establishment is perceived as the savior and safe harbor when in reality the opposite is true. 

Once the public has lost all capability to resist our hidden rulers and perceive them as their saviors, they are ripe for indoctrination through the complete control of education, history, media and movies. 

The sheeple will probably have to die off before any reform is possible as their detoxification is unlikely. 

They will continue insisting on Big Government to save them and fight any anti-Establishment reform.

That's what many ZH writers don't understand.  It's not a mental defect in understanding - that disables the public, but a physical poisoning that produces an emotional handicap of fear that trumps all evidence or argumant. 

Our hidden rulers intend to keep the public captured and expand it globally.  That's why the overide by Monsanto of local anti-GMO Food laws is a chief provision in the TPP Trade Agreement. 

Our hidden - 16 family Black Nobility rulers using their Masonic, Zionist and Jesuit agents make the poisoning of global populations a top priority as poisoned and

handicapped sheeple are far less likely to discover and protest their counterfeiting paper currency banking scams that form the basis of their power. 

If you follow the Big Money it leads to the criminal parasitic bankers.  The parasite seeks to disable the host's ability to detect the parasite and possibly remove it. 

The public's awareness of the parasite is compromised by the fear, anxiety and depression that comes from toxic injury that creates a fatal dependency and blind loyalty to the perceived safe-haven of the Establishment that is unknowingly controlled by the parasite.

See neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock MD's Fluoride & Vaccine Research Expose on The Poisoning Agenda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB3xcN_eoPo

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 06:59 | 6143013 Stox
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This is a joke, right?

 

Both parties are to blame, but one has to acknowledge that THIS ultra-liberal administration has ignored the basic of separation of powers to exercise unprecidented levels of power.  This liberal administration.  Not neocon administration.

 

 

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 07:13 | 6143042 DutchBoy2015
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The Zionist neocons control both parties.   The libs vs cons  game is something they advance to keep people divided.

The nutters that keep playing the ''libs vs cons'' game are the real suckers.

You can find them on virtually ANY blog or site like Huffpost and others.

Braindead morons.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 09:14 | 6143366 large_wooden_badger
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Divided and conquered

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 07:13 | 6143038 headhunt
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Hillary Clinton, Marco Rubio, Madeline Albright, Lindsey Graham, Jeb Bush, Joseph Lieberman, Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee, Barack Obama John Boehner, Joe Biden, Bill Kristol, John Bolton,

These are not neocons - they are fascist/communists

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 07:16 | 6143044 overmedicatedun...
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headhunt, fascist communists you say..No I say corrupt powerhungry thugs, no matter what system they are in they work to enjoy power and wealth, they have no allegiance to any ism.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 07:18 | 6143047 DutchBoy2015
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People need to question one thing 

Why do ALL candidates or potential candidates ALL immediately kiss the ring of Netanyahu and Israel before they start their campaiging?

That tells you all you need to know WHO in the end chooses the candidates and WHO controls the media that makes or breaks candidates.

The Zionist play both sides and whoever the final 2 or 4 candidates are (including VP) is who the Zionist want.  It is always a win/win situation for them.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 09:44 | 6143468 optimator
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If you're even thinking of running that first trip to the Wailing Wall with a beanie is the first thing you do.  That's what Dr. Ron Paul refused to do and you saw what happened with that candidacy.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 07:23 | 6143060 Infinite QE
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Sounds like the Germans had it right. Too bad they were far too Christian in dealing with them.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 08:12 | 6143191 dogismycopilot
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Good 5 minute video from Alex Jones. 

http://www.infowars.com/secrets-of-the-dennis-hastert-indictment/

Pretty much on target.

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 08:19 | 6143203 d edwards
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who gives a shite about Hasturd- he's jst a distraction from the crooks currently in govt!

Fri, 05/29/2015 - 09:57 | 6143217 Billy Bob101
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Until the collapse of the Soviet Union, the conservative movement was Constitutionally based and at least did lip service to the middle class with the idea that taxes and regulations should be minimized for the benefit of small business.  When the Soviet Union collapsed, the Trotskyites (communists who believed in the peaceful assimilation of the west) suddenly found themselves politically homeless, and they rebranded themselves as "conservatives."  At first, conservatives were happy to welcome them aboard, thinking that they had finally "come to see the light."  Unfortunately, suddenly whenever the media wanted to hear the "conservative" point of view, they would interview a neo con, and soon the old (paleo) conservatives were the ones without a home.  Conservatives today are pretty solidly neo con, the rhetoric about "lower taxes and less regulation" is long forgotten (as are the small businesses that used to make up most of the middle class), and every problem calls for bigger government.  In their last life, the neo cons were communist (Khazars), and still retain the core beliefs, though they don't like to admit it.  The irony is that while the media was proclaiming the "death of communism" they took over control of the Republican Party.  Few noticed.

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