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IRS Admits Refunding Billions On Fake Tax Returns
Just hours after being force to admit that they were hacked (by Russians apparently), an inspector general's report shows that The IRS has rather remarkably continued to pay refunds on hundreds of thousands of fraudulent tax returns in recent years, and sent dozens of checks to the same addresses, including in Eastern Europe and elsewhere. While some progress has been made, $2.3 billion of real US taxpayer's money was wrongfully refunded to fake US taxpayers... but with this new cyber-attack, we suspect that number will soar.
The report by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration shows the Internal Revenue Service continued to pay refunds on hundreds of thousands of fraudulent tax returns in recent years, and sent dozens of checks to the same addresses, including in Eastern Europe and elsewhere. As The Wall Street Journal reports,
The new IG report says the IRS took steps for the 2013 filing season that resulted in “increased detection and prevention of identity theft tax returns.” But it said the agency continued to be hampered by several factors, including its inability to look at employer income data during the early weeks of the annual filing season.
The IG found that the IRS missed almost 800,000 potentially fraudulent tax returns.
In response, the IRS said it disputed some of the IG’s methodology. It thinks more than half of the nearly 800,000 returns identified by the IG should not be considered potentially fraudulent.
“Much more work remains, but it’s important to note that our actions have led to an increasing number of fraudulent returns being detected and stopped — despite challenging budgets in recent years,” the IRS said in a statement.
The IG also found “multiple tax returns with the same addresses and/or bank accounts” that the IRS computer filters didn’t catch. An analysis shows that of the top 10 addresses where the IRS sent multiple fraudulent refunds, three were in Bulgaria, one in Ireland and one in Lithuania. Three others were in Florida. Hundreds of refunds went to some of the addresses, and hundreds also went to the same bank accounts.
The IRS said in response that it recently has put a limit of three on the number of direct deposit refunds to a single financial account or pre-paid debit card. It also has been working to limit the number of refunds going to the same physical address.
What kind of person is filing fraudluent returns?
Where are the fraudulent refunds going?
On the bright side, the fraud is declining...
The IRS made significant progress in blocking phony tax returns in 2013. The total of potentially fraudulent refunds fell to about $2.3 billion for tax year 2012, from about $5.2 billion in tax year 2010, the report says.
But we suspect that given the massive cyberattack this week, the numbers will soar once again.
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Just another Wealth Redistibution Scheme where not a soul is held accountable.
Just released: "Senator: IRS paying private lawyers $1,000 an hour, despite ‘underfunding’ complaints" (FOX), Potentially illegal, but what isn't in this administration?
Paul Krugman sez: Stimulus is stimulus no matter where the money goes or to whom. Keep paying.
Open boarders broken IRS ragtag DHS
This country is a Fucking cesspool
Being that the whole income tax thing is a scam to begin with since we are only paid in credit and credit isn't taxable income as per the IRS and the Federal Reserves own documentation. I really don't give a rats ass about people getting fake returns. What burns me is the fact that we let this bull shit continue at all.
They will now spend $5 billion to fix that $2 billion problem.
Government for ya.
pods
Could the US government and its agencies be any more fucking stupid and inept? I'm reminded a little of the monkeys in the CareerBuilders commercial.... and my fervent wish that those monkeys were holding those government jobs. The monkeys would do a better job - at least the shit they fling around would stay inside the office.
since the irs falls under the manchurian presidents branch of government i would expect nothing less.
They have to be idiots to have software this bad. Seriously, how hard it is to create a table where refunds go to and limit that to "1" ?
I never realised the IRS gives refunds in "Gold and Silver coin" but after reading the title of this article...
No, they don't care. they get paid, it's not coming out of their pockets...
The IRS isn't a US government agency. Supposedly under the Department of the Treasury. Not according to the LAWFUL organizational structure:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/subtitle-I/chapter-3/subchapt...
Who cares! Are we green yet? That's all that matters.
As we sit around and laugh at the Chinese housewives driving up their market, it's the exact same thing the FED is pushing people to do in the US.
Yes it is but we are better at it. We can control the dips (cough, cough, Citadel) before they get out of hand. USSA! USSA! USSA!
Probably lots of illegals here to do the crime that ordinary Americans don't want to do.
Especially after they publicized the fact that it was up for grabs after the Bongo Amnesty.
Let's stop pretending there is a safe and equitable spot in the "multicult" future for traditional Americans.
The Fed has printed $4 trillion for its criminal bankster cronies. A few billion for enterprising criminals who actually work for a living is to be expected.
Besides, the US gets to blame Putin for that though none of the top 10 addresses displayed above are in Russia.
IRS blames Russia for '$50 million' hackRemember when the IRS website was hacked and around 100,000 people had their tax data stolen? Officials are now pointing accusatory fingers in the direction of Russia, at least according to CNN
http://www.engadget.com/2015/05/29/irs-russia-hacked-us/
The income tax system is a huge failure. Any system that relies upon massive information retainment on all of our income making activities has to fail.
Taxes need to be part of the process of business activity, nearly invisible to the average citizen. Sales taxes are an example although I know that most people hate sales taxes because it "hurts the poor", but income taxes are far worse for the republic as a whole.
Repeal the Income Tax Amendment, nationalize the "Federal" Reserve, abandon all current "economic" treaties, end ALL federal subsidies completely, put a single excise tax on all imports regardless of type, and push the restart button.
Just sayin'.
It's been tremndously successful. For the bankerz.
By virtue of the IRS reporting requirments, the bankerz have a road map to a country's asset base. They then comence stripping the asset base through sequential targeted taxation and regulation. Just before another round of taxes and regulation is scheduled for passage, the immigration gates get opened to drown the native opposition to being raped yet again.
Lather, Rinse, repeat-throughout all the Western "Democracies" every year.
The guys enabling it all from within make out pretty well. The best part is, they're about done with Europe and the USA. They just have to decide if there really is anything left to squeeze out of Greece before moving on to Eurasia for the rest of the century.
"The income tax system is a huge failure."
It is not a huge failure for TPTB. They designed it and it's been a great success for them, both politically and economically.
If slavery is when someone takes 100% of your earnings, at what % is it not slavery?
Considering that the slave has to be fed and clothed they are taking less than 100%.
remember when Detroit Auto workers were claiming 99 depedents on their W2?
At least I know I'm not alone....
Still waiting for them to "process" my paper return.... which I had to file because someone else had already e-filed with my SSN.
Ouch. Good luck with that.
And you might put your devil worshiping Keynes garments on and say "Well that's just another way to get QE to the people, I am glad those people have some walk around money, even if they got it using my identity. They will spend it on the goods and services I produce!"
But here is the trick. If someone other than you recieves benefits from the system: state local federal in your name, the IRS will not only not re-issue you a refund, but they will expect you to pay taxes on the gains you did not receive. Something is wrong with our system, but I guess the NSA is busy working on hillaries private email server now. No time to fix the IRS computers that issue confiscation orders to goons with guns.
Eliminate the tax code. Implement a consumption tax. Watch the USA enter a golden age. Then watch the global war mongers fight amongst themselves over a limited amount of money to fund projects to kill people on the other side of the world using conventional bombs and/or the peaceful atom.
Simple solution - abolish IRS and income tax, and introduce national VAT (food and healthcare exempted) and financial transactions tax. No tax returns and no IRS "audits" of dissident organizations or individuals in that case.
Have you seen the math and enforcement arms that are associated with VAT regimes? The IRS would not be abolished by implementing a VAT.
"The IRS would not be abolished by implementing a VAT."
If we are talking about national VAT and financial transactions tax only, i. e. no other federal taxes, the "new" federal agency replacing the IRS would be much, much smaller and could not be used as a political tool.
From Heritage Foundation
The measuement of "value added" is fodder for those who seek to use revenue authorities for nefarious purposes, and for large corporations which seek to avoid taxation through loopholes and other machinations. There are big differences between simple sales or transaction taxes and value added taxes. There is a point at which oversimplification becomes gross distortion, like when the Heritage Foundation writes, and then ignores the second half of:
You are correct. Indeed, the hypothetical U.S. VAT would have to be simplified and would take a form of a consumption/sales tax rather than the kind of VAT they have in E.U. for example.
Even simpler solution:
Abolish 99% of the federal government and the income tax. Tax imports to fund the remaining portion.
"Tax imports to fund the remaining portion."
VAT is applicable to imports as well.
The only reason the IRS would even use a pre-paid debit card is they want fraud...
Correct. It is important that every person walking the planet is in violation of the tax laws. Just like it is important that every major politician has something really really dark in their past that can be used as blackmail...
Jesus. Just change the tax code to a flat tax. No deduction and no refund.
Hell is freezing over.
Did Clinton Foundation receive multiple tax refunds?
poor bankers...
It happens every year and many times they refund more than 200 returns to the same PO Box with no basic measures in place to "flag it". So what, the amount they give away is small compared to what they give away to themselves and their real friends.
It must be nice to know that the more inept you are at your job the better chance you have for advancement.
A 2000% tax on SMART devices and Cable TV, and NETFLIX would go a long way of improving the moral state of the nation.
our gubbermint gives away a lot moar than that to izreel alone
Does anybody else see we are becoming just like the movie "idiocracy"? If you havent seen it buy it its worth every penny...
You kinda wanna see Dumbfuckistan get punched right upside the head a few times...maybe it would shake the stupid and incompetent loose.
Oh, I see! More money has gotten disappeared.
Who will guard the guards who guard the guards?
A bunch of vacuous pods working for a criminal syndicate, each one is your enemy, period.
it's only clownbux
So 25% of Mexico are US citizens. Getting refunds without paying in Mexico is sweet for them. All those dependents,
DOD sending out deadly germs, IRS miscalulating billions, DOJs priorities lies with soccer, CIA creating ISIS, NSA doing anything they please, endless presidential powers by executive fiat, an inept and corrupt Congress. Yep - sounds like a constitutional republic for limited government by the people and for the people.
And yet I still can't get my legitimate fucking return because they want to be sure that my documents (all 3 of them) are correct. Been waiting since January 31. Fuck the IRS.
So what's worse: the cyberattack or the stupidity of the IRS?
The Russians!!! I wonder what their calling card is...I'm sure it can't be duplicated if someone wanted it to look like the Russians. Those wiley Ruskies...
How much was sent to Hillary and Eric Holder?
Very simple code a decade or two ago at the IRS and this kind of Shit wouldn't have happened. NOT more than one address per family return !!
Alright, who bet that the US city with the most fraudulent returns would be Chicago?
I never would have guessed there are so many Chicago retirees moving to Florida...
Anything involving taking and giving away other peoples money is fraught with illegality
For about the past year, I've been getting IRS letters at my home address for people who do not live here. Several dozen by now. Sometimes there are multiple letters per day. It is always "mexican" names. I opened one or two and it was a request for more information before a return could be processed.
I called the IRS twice to report this. Was told "we'll look into it..." Still they keep coming.
Some kind of fraud probably I just hope I don't get caught up in it.
JohnG "For about the past year, I've been getting IRS letters at my home address for people who do not live here. Several dozen by now. Sometimes there are multiple letters per day. It is always "mexican" names. I opened one or two and it was a request for more information before a return could be processed.
I called the IRS twice to report this. Was told "we'll look into it..." Still they keep coming.
Some kind of fraud probably I just hope I don't get caught up in it."
I think you're wrong, If it involves Mexicans it's never fraud.
Perhaps it's time to disband the IRS and come up with a fair tax of zero! Have all the import taxes and duties you want.
As usually they forgot elephant in the room, hundreds of billions $ refunded to foreign corporations , banks and unpaid taxes and penalties of US corporations for accounting fraud.
FRAUD 'R' US.
Multiple checks to the same address? Checks sent to Bulgaria?
Obviously no one had the brains in the IRS to put a simple filter in the program, they were too busy trying to use the agency to advance Obama's political goals by denying tea party groups exempt status.
Wait til the Nigerians read about this......
What's a check? Our tax authority sends refunds directly to our current account.
If you owe, they give time to pay with NO interest involved.
No bank account? no refund, no job, no nothing.
Seems like the IRS encourages this, OR they don't have a clue how to run a modern country,
I already know what the idiot trolls will be saying
''Well I don't want or need a bank account''.
Pure idiocy , no wonder your country is totally fucked.
You live in the dark ages.
I already know what the idiot trolls will be saying
''Well I don't want or need a bank account''.
Pure idiocy , no wonder your country is totally fucked.
You live in the dark ages.
The IRS and US govt must live in the 80's or 90s.
Checks??????????? seriously?????????? you guys use CHECKS????????
LOL
They could save a lot of admin costs by just getting your bank sort code and direct deposit refunds.
Here in the NL they send all refunds, and pensions and everything is direct deposit.
But its also TOTALLY illegal for the govt to TAKE from your account.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth??
It's scary how amazingly simple this has been, 60 Minutes segment on the story and this was an inside job at a hospital in Florida, steal patient social security numbers as they didn't pay the help enough, as they all say, we were all in on it. The hospital had 3 breaches in 2 years...all doing the same thing, getting those Social Security numbers. Shoot even Holder had fake returns filed on his and that takes balls:)
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/09/one-more-reason-to-license-data.html
You can even use any name with the social security number as the IRS does not cross reference! Choke on that one but the video tells you all about it and also how the IRS is getting a budget cut:)