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Russia Wards Off "Provocative And Aggresive" US Warship In Black Sea

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While we are used to hearing of the 100s of "close encounters" between NATO and Russian planes,but, as reported by state news agency RIA - citing an anonymous source in Russia's armed forces, Russian military aircraft were scrambled to head off a U.S. warship that was acting "aggressively" in the Black Sea.

We are used to plane-on-plane "close encounters"...

 

 

And now, as The Daily News reports, Russian attack jets were sent to warn off the American warship USS Ross from near the country's territorial waters in the Black Sea, 

The source was quoted as saying that the U.S. destroyer Ross was moving along the edge of Russia's territorial waters and heading in their direction.

 

 

"The crew of the ship acted provocatively and aggressively, which concerned the operators of monitoring stations and ships of the Black Sea Fleet," RIA quoted the source as saying.

 

Su-24 attack aircraft demonstrated to the American crew readiness to harshly prevent a violation of the frontier and to defend the interests of the country."

 

"Apparently, the Americans have not forgotten the April 2014 incident when one Su-24 practically 'blacked out' all of the electronics on board the newest American destroyer Donald Cook," the source said.

 

Russia's Defence Ministry was not immediately available to comment on the report.

As RT notes,

Saturday's incident is the latest in a series of border surveillance confrontations between Russia and the West. Europeans, especially the Baltic states, have repeatedly sounded the alarm over Russian jets coming close to their borders.

 

The US is rotating several warships in and out of the Black Sea, where Russia's naval bases are located. The USS Vella Gulf, USS Ross, USS Truxton, and the USS Taylor – as well as warships from other NATO member states – were spotted in the area over the past few months.

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This appears to be the first reported ship-to-plane 'encounter' and,
just as US and China tensions are escalating in the South China Sea, it
appears US and Russian military 'discussions' are shifting from words
and proxy-fighting.

 

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Sat, 05/30/2015 - 16:25 | 6147414 Flying Wombat
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Brinksmanship will escalate; Cold War 2.0.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 16:27 | 6147420 Newsboy
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GIT!  GIT!  GIT Away, now!

Shoo!

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:06 | 6147517 Billy the Poet
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Remember the brave men who stood shoulder to shoulder on Lexington Green in order to secure the Ukraine for NATO.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:07 | 6147571 Pinto Currency
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The story of how the USS Donald Cook had all electronic systems disabled by a Russian SU-24 in 2014 while on the Black Sea:

http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html

No coverage as yet by the Western MSM.

Magrave.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:18 | 6147666 post turtle saver
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there will be no coverage, because it's a lie

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:21 | 6147670 Freddie
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Oh dear.  Cue the ex-US Navy semen who post here about Obola's great fleet of fatties, Trayvons, illegals and gang bangers.   What a joke.  The USA is a feral country.  Morons voluntering to work for evil banksters.

Hit em again with some more EMP. 

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 21:17 | 6147685 Pinto Currency
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We'll see Turtle.

Magrav EW is said to have been discovered by Iran and then developed by Russia and shared with Iran.

Watching Yemen and Persian Gulf Iranian ship interaction with Western navies.

$100,000 bonuses given by Saudi to their pilots to drop bombs on Yemen tribesmen.  Rich - so what's the risk for the reward?

There seems to be something there.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 23:21 | 6148371 SMG
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You've got a few years left to prepare for WWIII. Get ready, save yourself and your family no matter what they say. They'll thank you when it's over. Good luck.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 00:09 | 6148474 Oh regional Indian
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Bump...oh sorry.

Bump....oh my bad....

Bump...fuck you...

BOOM!

How wars start...

Make ze muzeicles, war is no good...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk1TSBW_368

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 01:05 | 6148560 ebear
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"How wars start..."

or like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOll3v55Dmo

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 08:06 | 6148841 Pinto Currency
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The alleged crime:

Magrav was offered to all countries globally by the inventor to maintain peace and it was rejected by Obama who issued an executive order in 2012 blocking any contact re. this technology.

http://www.stankovuniversallaw.com/2015/03/how-the-new-iranian-russian-technology-magrav-checkmate-the-us-navy/

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 08:26 | 6148866 kaiserhoff
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OT  John Kerry fell off his bicycle and broke a leg in Frogland.

They shoot horses, don't they?

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 09:39 | 6148945 Freddie
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They have a whole f***ing entourage following him including a doctor.

He did the same stupid crap that (saint) Bono, another lib elite, did.  Old man on a road bike probably in an area where he should be on a mtn tyle bike with wider tyres.   The skinny tyres on road bikes are for young men.  Also Bono is a fat shit.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 09:43 | 6148956 Arnold
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What? another Purple Heart?

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 00:08 | 6148471 post turtle saver
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that's an interesting take on things... but it doesn't change the fact that it's still a lie

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 01:11 | 6148567 ebear
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You can no more prove it's a lie than anyone else can prove it's the truth.  Shades of grey are all you get unless you're on the inside, in which case you wouldn't be talking.

 

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 06:44 | 6148779 The Black Bishop
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If I remember correctly there was a news story that "slipped" into the MSM about a lot of the Donald Cook crew went ashore and demanded to be terminated from their contracts. Unable to try and dig it up right now. People dont try to quite en-masse because the food is bad.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 08:19 | 6148860 bigkahuna
Sun, 05/31/2015 - 09:42 | 6148954 post turtle saver
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that's an interesting debate tactic, but nonetheless it's still a lie...

all Russia has to counter real ballistic missile defense capability in that region (terminal phase, no less) is lies, propaganda, and bullshit... a couple of Arleigh Burkes loaded out with SM-2 and SM-6 is more than capable of making regional nuke threats obsolete, and Russia knows it... hence the huge cloud of ink they're throwing up about it, because they got nothin' and they know it...

oh sure, they'll swoop a plane in every so often to give some patriotic grist to the folks at home, makes Pooty look tough etc. and you know what... we'll let them, because the more of Crazy Ivan we see the more we'll be ready for him... the US won the last Cold War and the outcome of this one won't be any different if Pooty insists on using the same tactics... in fact, with real ABM tech in the region, the outcome will be even worse...

so, you subversive fifth column bullshit artists, trolls and tools all, keep posting your lies and misinformation... some of us on this board will see through it though, don't be surprised when that happens...

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 10:09 | 6148993 Sandmann
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Poland will be gone by the time the US makes that mistake. The beauty of the US marauding around the region is that they are going to be invited to go home and leave Western Europe. The disasters in Libya, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Ukraine make people wary of US Chaos

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 13:51 | 6149524 Latina Lover
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Hey post Turtle head sticking out of you ass Saver,

If the USSA could have conquered Russia via brute force, they would have done it already. The USSA NEVER shows restraint when attacking a weaker enemy,  such as Libya or Iraq. 

The USSA has not directly attacked because they cannot win at this time against Russia without destroying themselves, and probably never.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 14:02 | 6149549 Max Steel
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hahahahah did you read what he said sm-2&6 makes russian nukes obsolete and thwy knkw it . another idiot mp.net stronk douchebag turtlehead .

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 11:04 | 6149120 where_is the_nuke
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If you say so. He hehe hehehehe.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 11:31 | 6149196 Augustus
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The Puutie Trolls are paid for their services on behalf of Vlad.  They get Big Paycheck evidently.  Latina Liver may make $700 a month.  Cosmo probably get less as it is stupid troll.  ZH must not be the most important target as most off the troll assigned to this site are fools.

 

Russia steps up propaganda push with online "Kremlin trolls"

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-steps-up-propaganda-push-with-online-kremlin-trolls/ar-BBkmW2l?ocid=mailsignout

 

ST. PETERSBURG, Russia — Deep inside a four-story marble building in St. Petersburg, hundreds of workers tap away at computers on the front lines of an information war, say those who have been inside. Known as "Kremlin trolls," the men and women work 12-hour shifts around the clock, flooding the Internet with propaganda aimed at stamping President Vladimir Putin's world vision on Russia, and the world.

The Kremlin has always dabbled in propaganda, but in the past year its troll campaign has gone into overdrive, adding hundreds of online operatives to help counter Western pressure over its role in the pro-Russian insurgency in eastern Ukraine. The program is drawing Serbia, which harbors EU dreams, back toward the Russian orbit, and is targeting Germany, the United States and other Western powers. The operation has worried the European Union enough to prompt it to draw up a blueprint for fighting Russia's disinformation campaign, although details have not yet been released.

Lyuda Savchuk, a single mother with two children, worked in the St. Petersburg "troll factory" until mid-March. The 34-year-old journalist said she had some idea of the Orwellian universe she was entering when she took the job, but underestimated its intensity and scope.

"I knew it was something bad, but of course I never suspected that it was this horrible and this large-scale," she said in an interview in her apartment, which has colorful drawings on the walls for her two preschool-age children.

She described how the trolls manage several social media accounts under different nicknames. Those in her department had to bash out 160 blog posts during a 12-hour shift. Trolls in other departments flooded the Internet with doctored images and pro-Putin commentary on news stories that crop up on Russian and Western news portals.

In some departments, she said, the trolls receive daily talking points on what to write and what emotions to evoke. "It seems to me that they don't know what they are doing," Savchuk said. "They simply repeat what they are told."

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 12:20 | 6149323 Bay of Pigs
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Speaking of "trolls", you've posted more bullshit than just about anyone I've ever seen on this site in the past 5 years.

Go suck a dick.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 13:54 | 6149530 Latina Lover
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Augdisgustus already has sucked many dicks, many times.

http://photobucket.com/images/gay%20nazi

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 10:03 | 6148985 Urban Redneck
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"Proof"?

We can establish beyond a reasonable doubt that the story reported by popular Russian media is fiction.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 10:21 | 6149026 Dominus Ludificatio
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Those morons feel so much more secure when they wrap themselves with the flag, as if its  the flag of God.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 10:27 | 6149027 Dominus Ludificatio
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50% of Americans cannot even find the Black Sea on a map.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:33 | 6147692 Max Steel
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haha ignorance speaks 

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:35 | 6147693 Max Steel
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Sat, 05/30/2015 - 23:32 | 6148395 Nexus789
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Interesting to think what the survival time would be for a US warship in the Black Sea - ten minutes, half an hour....

Aside from aircraft with anti-ship missiles the Russians have coastal defence missiles all along the coast. One of which is the K-300P Bastion-P which has been designed to destroy surface ships and it uses the Yakhont missile (Mach 2.5+). Might get lucky and stop one but multiple missiles….

 

There are only targets and subs..

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 04:53 | 6148726 Max Steel
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whatever comforts you mate . Funny you quoted medium blog where they claim to be military expert . No one can jam american quality proof hardware . Its the new meme .

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 05:00 | 6148730 blabam
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@HolyfieldsOtherEar Critical thought is abandoned most of the time on this site when it comes to reports critical of the US. 

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 05:22 | 6148737 HolyfieldsOtherEar
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The voltaire.org story even claimed that the Donald Cook's whole crew resigned when the ship reached port! Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 17:57 | 6150146 Max Steel
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There is a differwnce btwn critical thought and a constructed lie dog .Yes, anyone who questions the US centric world view and doesn't lap up the pro war MSM propaganda is a "Russian troll" here now.It is comical. Obviously the claims made by russian press were xaggrated jist what usa do by bluffing their hardware superiority over others and their battlefield success ( but in reality we knoe what is the truth ) . Russian will nevee going to show their actylual potent weapon it was just for show storm . Funny how medium article called it bullshit story straighaway but he forgot to tell you the usa govt statement after it : after the incident jappened the ship went

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:57 | 6147733 Berspankme
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Western MSM metrosexuals and lesbians are very busy reporting on the war on gays

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 00:28 | 6148503 natty light
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Uncloaks dodos

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 08:32 | 6148876 Fun Facts
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US warships are friendly and cuddly and operate in all corners of the world to ensure our freedum - White House

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 01:30 | 6148580 Boondocker
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Try finding the crew. ..lol

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 05:23 | 6148723 HolyfieldsOtherEar
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sorry double post

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 11:57 | 6151954 libraryrat
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I've always said that Russian journalism is the best fiction writing around! 

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 12:05 | 6151980 libraryrat
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Oh Gawd! Not EMP!!!  Why didn't WE think of that? !?

And here we've gone and left trillions of dollars of military hardware and technology COMPLETELY vulnerable to this unique Russian technology that utterly defeats and overwhelms our sophisticated military systems.   Whatever shall we do...?!?  

It's it too late to negotiate favorable terms of surrender?   Perhaps the Benevolent Putin will be merciful...... 

 

#Warlock

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:15 | 6147661 Augustus
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Puutie knows how to control Opposition:

 

Vladimir Kara-Murza Unconscious, on Life Support in Moscow Hospital, Possibly Poisoned

http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/article/vladimir-kara-murza-unconscious-life-support-moscow-hospital-possibly-poisoned

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:36 | 6147697 Anusocracy
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Wow!

That is so much worse than the 1-2 million killed by the US in the last few decades.

Try again, dipshit.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 19:49 | 6147851 Latina Lover
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Yawn Augustus.  Like we americans care what happens to Vlad in in a russian hospital.  Now, if it were an Kardashian, then this is Woar!

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 20:22 | 6147917 tarabel
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Fancy seeing you here on a weekend Russian troll thread.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 08:43 | 6148886 Latina Lover
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I also read on weekends.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 11:03 | 6149119 where_is the_nuke
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Funny, trolls are calling others trolls.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 13:05 | 6149414 Bay of Pigs
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Yes, anyone who questions the US centric world view and doesn't lap up the pro war MSM propaganda is a "Russian troll" here now.

It is comical.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 08:34 | 6148879 Augustus
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Latina Liver,

We KNOW that the only thing you care about is getting that check from Puutie.

Aren't you making the posts from an Obamaphone?

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 08:48 | 6148890 Latina Lover
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What I really care about is losing more freedoms, and having my taxes go up to support a war in a country that most Americans couldn't even find on a map.

Regardless, the big losers are the Ukrainian people, whose future is bleak for years to come.  Once the  'revolutionary' fervor wears off, and the average Ukie figures out that they live in an Oligarchic state controlled by the USSA and EU, they will turn against the Kiev coupsters. 

The appointment of Sakashilli as governor of Odessa is a real punch in the face for the Ukies who can still think for themselves.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 23:24 | 6148374 Nexus789
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That figure is a bit low....the US has been very successful at mass murder.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 08:18 | 6148857 Augustus
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It seems that Puutie's Paid Puppies are on the alert.  Dog Whistle alert went out to the trolls.

 

Putin Declares Soldiers’ Deaths and Wounds Secret, in War and Peace

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/29/world/europe/putin-russian-soldiers-ukraine.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1

MOSCOW — The deaths or wounds of Russian soldiers in “special operations” can be classified as military secrets, even in peacetime, President Vladimir V. Putin decreed Thursday. The decree comes as Russia faces accusations that it is sending its soldiers clandestinely to fight in Ukraine, an allegation the Kremlin denies.

Mr. Putin’s decree amended a law that had let the military keep soldiers’ deaths or injuries secret only in times of war.

Mr. Putin has repeatedly insisted that Russian soldiers are not taking part in the conflict in eastern Ukraine, where government forces and pro-Russian separatists keep fighting despite a cease-fire deal in February.

At home, Russia’s political opposition says that by refusing to acknowledge that its soldiers are in combat in Ukraine, the Russian military is unjustly denying them disability payments and denying their relatives death benefits and other awards.

All the while, there are widespread indications of a rising casualty toll for Russian soldiers, including wounded ones showing up at hospitals, new graves appearing in cemeteries and testimony from relatives of the dead.

 

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 10:29 | 6149010 Urban Redneck
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So Russian law now matches US law, what's the big deal?

Do you have any idea how dangerous "training" is for people under SOCOM or Langley (never mind private sector MIC subcontractors with NDAs)?

Benghazi was an exception to US normal disclosure policies because of the death of a State Department Ambassador, and yet lots of people claim we still haven't been told enough... 

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 11:05 | 6149125 where_is the_nuke
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NY Times? He hehehehehehe.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 12:12 | 6149305 bid the soldier...
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Augustus the Dim

 

The conflict in Donbas has been raging for a year.  Up until last week, Russian law dictated that only casualties during war time could be withheld from the public. Russia said it was not involved in the fighting in Donbas and few peacetime casualties were reported.  

Now the Duma has made a law that peacetime casualties can also be withheld.

The old system seemed towork well. Russia suffered very few peacetime casualties. But now the system has been changed.  Why?

After fucking around with Nuland's asshole mouthpiece, Poroshenko, for a year -- who just recently said he will bring back Donbas and Crimea back into Ukraine  -- isn't Putin preparing Russia for War against Ukraine and NATO if the sanctions aren't lifted next month?

If it ain't broken, don't fix it.  Putin obviously thinks something is broken.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:42 | 6147707 Max Steel
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washington think tank and russian 5th column ragheads write such rabid drivel for affairs journal . Yellow preas not a genuine source   . good enough to make simpletons fall for their propaganda . You can try hard to portray usa empire as good but we know the truth . 

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 20:05 | 6147884 Aussie V
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I agree Max Steel. "Leading Russian Opposition Leader"

He has a popularity of around 2-3%

Why would they even bother?

He probably had a bad meal of Borsch

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 02:11 | 6148626 zeroboris
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"He has a popularity of around 2-3%"

No. Even Boris Nemtsov had never had such a percent. This Kara-Murza man has about zero popularity in Moscow and is simply unknown in other regions of Russia (I've first heard of him this spring, for example). Our opps failed to make Nemtsov into a martyr and are desperate to find yet another Putin's victim. They're so pitiful. Only Navalny has (had) some potential to become a martyr. Others are so mediocre that the word "leader" is absolutely inappropriate for them. You may know them better than we, because they live in the Facebook, write in English, regularly travel to US, are there longer than in Russia, meet your politicians, deceive them, take their money, have a good time. So your government thinks that this mob has influence in Russia and can overthrow Putin. But in fact they are swindlers, they lie to you and pretend to be influential, they created a big fake to get your money, and only your money they are interested in. It's very strange for me but your government keeps betting on wrong horses last 15 years.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 13:57 | 6149540 Latina Lover
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+1000  One of the best ways to earn money in Russia is to pretend to be a pro western liberal, and then swindle money out of the US government suckers.  The only real risk is that once in a while, a liberal gets killed by western operatives to make the Russian government look bad.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 21:41 | 6148070 Volkodav
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"The Phony Litvinenko Murder" William Dunkerley

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 02:58 | 6148672 August
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I remember those brave men who stepped up to the plate, and showed the world that China would never dominate the China Sea, nor the Persians the Persian Gulf. 

Freedom!  And speak English, dammit!

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 11:45 | 6149232 exomike
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Billy,

Is your Avitar Kurt Vonnegut's asshole?

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 11:46 | 6149235 FredFlintstone
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Yes

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:03 | 6147628 will ling
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no. we don' t want 2.0. we want empire put in it's place for the sake of humanity. get goin' vlad!

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 19:34 | 6147790 Kirk2NCC1701
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I would have fully expected this to happen, as the US is seeking to milk the opportunity for SigIntel purposes...

If they got a mini-EMP the last time, they want to know if their upgrades are effective against the same device.  Typical Arms Race games.

p.s. I know for FACT that the DOD/DARPA have been working on EMP-hardening of electronics for decades, not years.  This naval maneuver is just an ongiong cat-mouse stuff in military PsyOps, so I'd keep my shorts on, you panickers and worry-warts.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 19:48 | 6147849 Parrotile
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It would be very interesting to know exactly what happened re. the Donald Cook "incident".

Broad-band EMP, or a select range of narrowband freqencies? Even tuneable microwave laser (MASER) technology is perfectly credible, especially seeing as MASER tech predates optical LASER technology.

Was the "attack" also intended as a probing exercise? Spectral analysis of reflected energy will show which bands are preferentially absorbed, so providing useful "frequency target" information should a similar event be needed in the future.

Remembering that under Communism, Russia did a LOT of basic research, and were certainly World leaders in basic Physics research, it requires very little stretching of the imagination to suppose that they have a lot of higly applicable knowledge out there - unpublished (in Western media), but available nevertheless.

I suspect that if this event was a true encounter, Russian intent was NOT to provide the US with an ELINT bonanza; rather this may have been a trial run against a genuine target, to see how the system operates, and to gain useful "real battlefield" performance data for enhancement.

So, the US may choose to "upgrade" their systems at some considerable cost (after all the Taxpayer foots the bill). In the meantime Russia now has very useful target - relevant performance - level ELINT data, with which they can tune / modify systems performance, in order to obtain a "better buck per kWh consumed" weapon system.

 

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 21:14 | 6148008 Parrotile
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The standard response seemed to be "well it was only a Wargame", and so such incidents woould not happen in a "real" conflict.

Which of course begs the question, if such training exercises are not as realistic as possible, then why do we bother with them in the first place.

Carriers (and their support flotilla) constitute a very large, very high-value "target", so is it not unreasonable to expect any "aggressor" to be willing to commit a high-value offensive strategy against them (subsurface, sea-skimmer, high - elevation (ballistic) systems)??

We'll see how easily-saturable defensive systems are than, won't we . . . .

 

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 22:23 | 6148200 asiafinancenews
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In the 1920s or early 1930s, the US Navy ran a war game exercise in Hawaii to simulate an attack on, and defense of, the Pacific Fleet stationed at Pearl.  The opposing group sailed carriers (carrying biplanes) towards Oahu from the north and launched the attack early on a Sunday morning. The planes flew over Pearl and droppped sacks of flour on the warships in the harbor.  The time and direction of the attack came as a total surprise to the defenders and was a complete success on the part of the aggressor group.

What happened?  The attacking groups' commanders got read the riot act for cheating and using surprise tactics, and the exercise was ruled invalid.

Unfortunately, the base commander forgot to send the 'invalid' determination to Tokyo ...

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 00:29 | 6148505 Freddie
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Well I think the only US carrier almost sunk since WW2 was McCain almost sinking the USS Forrestal.

McCain's old man got in the act about the same time when he sold out the USS Liberty for LBJ and the ZWO.

By the way, a Chinese sub also surfaced in the middle of a US Navy carroer group and could have taken out the carrier plus other ships and it was not an exercise.

And what about the Chinese sub launching an ICBM of California's coast not that long ago.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 01:21 | 6148573 Ying-Yang
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And what about the Chinese sub launching an ICBM of California's coast not that long ago.

Heh, I quite agree. I happened to be watching the news and got to see the local news stations feed of the incident. Logically, one would assume it was one of our missiles. News team contacted military and they reported they had no exercises in the area.

MSM picked up on breaking story and all of a sudden it was an airliner. Seriously.

If you watched the actual event it was a missle launch from the ocean! The fire and smoke from the "airliner" went sorta straight up.

At that moment I said the chinese gave Uncle Sam a big fuck you.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 22:45 | 6148254 asiafinancenews
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Recall the story and photos taken by a commercial airline captain of the strange multi-color lights swirling beneath the surface of the Northern Pacific ocean near Kamchatka a while back:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2734573/Mystery-glow-Paci...

And the unexplained explosion at the power station in Northern Michigan last February:

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2015/02/further_outages...

In both instances, witnesses stated that they observed a vertical lightning bolt from a clear sky strike the spot, prior to the event. I wonder whether someone is demonstrating a space-based weapon capability?

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 01:22 | 6148577 ebear
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When the Russians can fire photon torpedos without decloaking, it's over.

Until then, it's game on!

Bitchez

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I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... www.jobs-review.com

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 18:14 | 6150180 SmittyinLA
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Gonna be funny if Obama and NATO pick a fight and no nobody stands  behind them when war  breaks out.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 16:26 | 6147416 cheech_wizard
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-JA1ffd5Ms

All one needs to remember really...

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:05 | 6147518 Arrowflinger
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Fred Thompson as POTUS doesn't  seem so bad these days

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:10 | 6147522 Billy the Poet
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Fred Thompson

http://www.cfr.org/staff/b8702

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 20:41 | 6147952 daveO
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Free reverse mortgages for everyone! The kids can live in tents, f*ck 'em./sarc

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 16:29 | 6147419 tony wilson and...
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we cannot allow russia to run ride and fly rough shod over are property the uss donald duck.
what the cotton pickin hell are they playin at
ivan must leave NOW

these lands and sea must be returned to israel asap
already
if not compensation must be paid

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 05:25 | 6148739 provokethegoyim
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Oh, compensation will be paid, my dearest Tony, and all that belongs to the holy nation of Israel will ultimately be returned.

What's yet uncertain is the date of your repentance.

And whther it will be offered willingly,

or will have to be dragged from you unceremoniously.

www.provokethegoyim.blogspot.com

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 16:32 | 6147429 Consuelo
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Looks as though the Wolfowitz Doctrine/Project for a New American Century is operating rather swimmingly and as planned...    Well, at least they think it is - for now anyway.    We'll see how well the Pentagram's strategy of taking on two nations at once works out.    They 'have a plan' - make no mistake, but Mike Tyson's old line about 'everyone has a plan' always comes to mind -

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 22:22 | 6148196 ThirteenthFloor
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Chinese old saying " easy to break one chopstick, not so easy five together".

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 01:26 | 6148578 ebear
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We cannot allow Red China to gain the advantage.  We must close the chopstick gap!

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 16:32 | 6147430 pitchforksanonymous
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The entire financial system is on the brink of collapse . . . what to do . . . what to do . . . How about we do what we always do? Start a war!!!!

Yeehaw!!!

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:13 | 6147478 nuke ISIS now
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Intersting that U.S., Canada, and UK training in Operation Maple Caravan

 

"Exercise MAPLE CARAVAN provides an exceptional opportunity to reinforce the Canadian Army’s mission readiness through a joint logistical operation with our American ally. It is also a cost-effective way to manage an important equipment movement in support of Exercise MAPLE RESOLVE. Soldiers will hone their skills in transporting large quantities of vehicles by road over a great distance. This skill set is necessary to ensure that modern day militaries are able to adapt to transportation challenges they may encounter in missions at home and abroad."

 

http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?nid=951899

 

see also from the Ottawa Citizen

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/large-scale-militar...

 

"Exercise MAPLE RESOLVE is the pinnacle of the Army’s yearly training. Hosted by the Canadian Manoeuvre Training Centre, it is the final validation exercise before a Task Force is declared ready to deploy on either domestic or international operations."

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:26 | 6147676 Freddie
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Canadians sadly dragged along by zips like Bronfman, reichmans et al.

Send some of them Canadian mounties to fight for dual shit-iZens Porky and Yats.  How many passports does Yats have?  Ukraine, Canada, Israel - where else.

Yeha send those mounties to the front line in Donbass so they can get their arses kicked by those NovoRussian farmers and miners. 

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 16:56 | 6147479 nuke ISIS now
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September 2015, be aware, be forewarned

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 19:31 | 6147807 Kirk2NCC1701
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"The entire financial system is on the brink of collapse . . . what to do . . ."

I used to think that too, but now I'm not so sure...

If PTT comes online, it would counter and front-run the "imminent demise" of the USD as the GRC*, as you can bet your ass(ets) that the Common Currency of the PTT will be the USD.  And with PTT countries adding up to a whopping 40% of world trade, "Rumors of my death were premature" would seem to apply.

The BRIICS and AIIB had better be ready for a foot-race against the TPP, as to whose currency or basket of currencies will remain standing.  I've learned to hedge against Risk (as prognosticated by perma-Doomers) the hard way, and will hedge accordingly.

 

* Global Reserve Currency

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 19:43 | 6147837 Bobbo
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It isn't as though we aren't trying.  We just have to be picky about who and where so we can minimize blowback.  Browse youtube for nuclear bomb in [recent conflict area] and see what's not on MSM.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 16:35 | 6147435 lolmao500
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The most important part of the article :

"Apparently, the Americans have not forgotten the April 2014 incident when one Su-24 practically 'blacked out' all of the electronics on board the newest American destroyer Donald Cook," the source said.

If Russia gave that tech to Iran, China and/or North Korea, things could get real interesting when the shooting starts

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:27 | 6147540 tony wilson and...
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old news...
the uss donald duck has been revamped refit.
it now has the new ratheon aegis goofy pluto and minnie mouse systems.
this quadrant of state of the art anima will blow ivan outta the cartoon dimensional air
lets roll
over
fidelis eternis semper fried suckers

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:27 | 6147559 Max Steel
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Tony Wilson English 101.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:30 | 6147687 Freddie
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I don't think it is that hard.   THey have a transponder at the end of each wing.  A web site had some info on what they think it is.

The Russians are very good at software.  US defense companies are very good at owning Congress.   They churn out shit like the F-35 for astronomical prices.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 19:57 | 6147869 Parrotile
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Not only are the Russians pretty awesome programmers, but they are extremely good at developing efficient (non-bloatware) software. Goes back to the days where their CPU performance was still playing catch-up, so to get comparable end results to the Western systems, the most effective option was to develop good (rather than lazy) programming skills. These skills have endured, and you really do wonder what "they" have up their collective sleeves . . . . . .

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 21:18 | 6148019 Freddie
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Aren't they supposedly still writing the code for the F-35?   It supposedly has 8 to 10 million lines of software code.  What a joke.

It is probably the same shit as the ObamaCare web site written by Indians in Canada or something.  Total junk.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 19:36 | 6147822 Bobbo
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Other surprises:

Chinese (cruise) missile, from LA to China test target
http://www.wnd.com/2010/11/230425/
" ... the missile was fired from a submerged Chinese nuclear submarine off America’s coast, and point out that the timing of the alleged Chinese missile shot coincided with an increasing confrontation between the U.S. and China, and was likely meant to send a message to Washington.  ...."

Chinese submarine surfaces unexpectedly in war games
http://xmb.stuffucanuse.com/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=4647
" ... American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.  ...."

What else are we supposed to not-see?

 

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 20:48 | 6147964 tarabel
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What else are we supposed to not-see?

Are we supposed to "not-see" that the Kitty Hawk was decommisioned in 2009 and that you are misleading people by implying this activity is taking place today?

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 07:04 | 6148787 Max Steel
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Hmmmm....... yup you are such  a retard . ignorance ignorance everywhere in your tiny brain . 

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 20:20 | 6147910 scatha
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In cold war neither US nor Soviets ever deployed "latest" versions of technology against each other. This same was with SU-24 and Donald Cook. The US captain just forgot to tell grunts that they are like sitting ducks in Black sea since their gear is obsolete, just not to lower morale. Why would he tell sailors that if something real comes up they would be toasted in seconds? It would make no operational difference except of massive call in sick.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 16:36 | 6147439 lolmao500
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And of course the commie in chief is at it again :

http://thehill.com/regulation/243520-administration-preps-new-gun-regula...

Administration preps new gun regulations
Sat, 05/30/2015 - 16:40 | 6147445 juicy_bananas
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Putin fact.  Vladimir Putin sleeps with a pillow under his gun.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 16:45 | 6147459 COSMOS
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American fact.  Given the state of the USSA, most Americans sleep with a gun also.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 16:42 | 6147450 roadhazard
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"anonymous source". Ah, something I can believe...

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 20:48 | 6147962 daveO
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Anonymous source=warmongering article.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 16:59 | 6147466 Volkodav
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Aerial recorded of attempted intrusion:

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw

                       Up Periscope?

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 16:49 | 6147475 CHC
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How the fuck does a destroyer "act" provactively?!?

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 16:59 | 6147502 pupdog1
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See video below. CINC Barry loves the indian.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:09 | 6147523 Miss Expectations
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You'll have to ask the USS Cole.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:27 | 6147558 Consuelo
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Could be the range with respect to the coastline or proximity to a Russian base.   Could also be 'lock-on' detection/practice runs of their on-board systems that Russian equipment in the area picks up.   I'm no expert on the matter, just speculating.

 

 

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:56 | 6147612 HenryHall
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>>> How the fuck does a destroyer "act" provactively?!?

By entering the Black Sea, or the Gulf of Mexico, or similar waters.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:52 | 6147722 Berspankme
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let a russian destroyer enter the gulf of mexico and you'll see

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 19:26 | 6147797 Bobbo
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As I understand it, it has to do with the number of sailors on the rail mooning the flyby.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 20:10 | 6147894 scatha
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How about Russian destroyer all loaded with weapons and ready to strike showing up and waving flag of peace at Miami Beach 5000 miles from the Russian border. Would it be provocative. Naaaaaaaaaaa!

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 21:21 | 6148027 Freddie
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Go a bit further towards the middle and north miami beach and you will find a LOT of Russians and Ukrainians.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 22:06 | 6148137 TheGreatRecovery
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"The USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) is a 4th generation guided missile destroyer whose key weapons are Tomahawk cruise missiles with a range of up to 2,500 kilometers, and capable of carrying nuclear explosives. This ship carries 56 Tomahawk missiles in standard mode, and 96 missiles in attack mode."

"CAPABLE OF CARRYING NUCLEAR EXPLOSIVES"

Sending the Cook into the Black Sea is like Cuba setting up missiles back in 1960 ("the Cuban Crisis") (Excellent movie: "Seven Days in May").  The Cook's very presence in the Black Sea is a provocation.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 00:33 | 6148509 post turtle saver
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the W80 and W84 have been withdrawn from service and the W81 was never produced... odds of an Arleigh Burke hauling around any "extreme tanning" ordnance are very slim...

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 07:41 | 6148814 TheGreatRecovery
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Thanks.  So maybe it was a "test the waters" provocation, not an all-out provocation.  Like the camel putting just his nose under the tent and saying, "See?  I coudn't possibly crowd you out of your tent with just my nose, could I?"

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 11:20 | 6149175 serotonindumptruck
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Or like the guy who assures his prom date that he'll "only put the tip in".... immediately before he goes balls deep in that tight little ass.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 11:42 | 6149226 bid the soldier...
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How does a destroyer "act' provocatively?

 

The Encyclopedia of Modern Naval Tactics recommends the crew put on eyeliner, wear speedos and wave alluringly at the enemy ship.

Tue, 06/02/2015 - 15:20 | 6156409 TheGreatRecovery
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The recent sci-fi movie "Battleship" portrayed a MODERN destroyer.  World War 2 destroyers, which did a wonderful job of hunting German U-boats, are not to be compared with MODERN destroyers which can carry 50-100 nuclear-tipped missiles.  Killing one U-boat at a time is not to be compared with sending nuclear missiles to 50 cities at a time.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:10 | 6147524 Infinite QE
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Putin needs to unload its entire nuke arsenal into Israel and end this global zio-fascism.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:13 | 6147530 FreeShitter
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Wont take that much to destroy israel aka itz-a-lie.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:29 | 6147562 Infinite QE
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Some things need extra assurance.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 20:59 | 6147979 tarabel
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Hmmm...

They seem to be pretty tenacious, if you ask me.

Babylon gone. Jews still here.

Pharaoh gone. Jews still here.

Rome gone. Jews still here.

Holy Roman Empire gone. Jews still here.

Russian Empire gone. Jews still here.

Hitler gone. Jews still here.

No matter what you think of them personally, their social organization has proven to be remarkably durable.

 

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 21:54 | 6148114 Ginsengbull
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They certainly get a lot of publicity.

 

We could be reading a story about the fishing habits of eskimos...

 

and someone would try to make it all about the Jews.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 07:17 | 6148795 Max Steel
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and soon our friend will write empire of chaos ska ussa gone and jews will still be there .  btw idiot jews were living in ussr unlike in germany they were not being holocaustED . Get your facts correct and learn history dumbfcuk  .

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:04 | 6147635 Dumgoy
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Damn right, and if he has anything left after a job well done, NY and London next!  That will tame the remaining ones infesting other goverments.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:51 | 6147720 Berspankme
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DC first please

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:11 | 6147526 Bobbo
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I see the tensions are escalating with Russia and China. 

It makes me wonder if there is something happening somewhere else that we are not supposed to know.  Something a tad more serious.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 06:10 | 6148766 GCT
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Spot on bobbo! + 100

I really could care less about the discussion on who has what weapon or the rhetoric about the so-called new emp weapon the Russian's may have.  The key to this encounter like so many recently is WTF is the USA, Russia, and China doing upping the ante to get someone killed.  That is what bothers me to be honest.  I could care less with who has the biggest balls!

Don my tin hat for a minute!  Maybe the Fed is losing the currency wars and needs a real war to fuck everyone over and cull the sheeple.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 08:20 | 6148862 escapeefromOZ
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@ Bobbo . You are probably right . Watch out for false flags in the next three months , Hologram appearances and deceptions  , Asteroid coming around , visitors in our solar system , wars , coup d'etat, bank runs , religious BLS , the pope visiting the UN  ? ( WTF  ? ) .

The system is terminal and will use any trick in the book including fake Aliens wars ....

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:15 | 6147532 Fun Facts
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Someone's going to lose an eye if this keeps up.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:16 | 6147534 q99x2
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Will the citizens of the western world join in the global fight and NWO banksterism or not. I think they will. Everybody hates those F'ers.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:39 | 6147570 Dathedr
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What is that picture up there btw? From some neocon site? Look just how many Russian planes are there, and only a handful of North Atlantic Terrorist Organization's! Do you think we are stupid to sell us Murican neocon propaganda ffs? And where is that incident where North Atlantic Terrorist Organization's spy plane was intercepted somewhere close to St. Petersubrg, near Russian territorial waters? It happened in the late last year. It's not even registered I see. And how many North Atlantic Terrorist Organization's war games have been conducted near Russian border, hm? That will tell you everything you need to know. Filthy neocon Murican lies and propaganda!

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:37 | 6147575 Dathedr
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Something about neoconservatism. Very educational.

 

 

Neoconservative

 

A political liberal was just a liberal in the 1930s and 1940s, but the reaction to Stalinism prompted a new type of liberal to surface on the political scene, and those liberals supported the Cold War. The term neoconservative was used to describe this group, and many of them were Jewish and emerging intellectuals that lived in New York City. Most of them considered themselves liberal democrats in the 1960s when the New Left or hippie movement in the US became a voice in the movement for American reform.

The first intellectual to embrace neoconservative principles was Irving Kristol, who is considered the godfather of neoconservatives. He wrote about his beliefs in his 1979 book, Confessions of a True, Self-Confessed Neoconservative.

Kristol's son, William, and Robert Kagan founded the Project for the New American Century in 1997, a think tank based in Washington D.C. which promotes the notion that American leadership is good for the world, and moral, as well. Such leadership, in fact, requires diplomatic energy, military strength and commitment to moral principle.

The other important figure in the early neoconservative movement was Norman Podhoretz, the editor of Commentary Magazine from 1960 to 1965. Podhoretz wrote an article for the New York Times in 1982 titled "The Neoconservative Anguish over Reagan's Foreign Policy." That article left no doubt in anyone's mind; Podhoretz was a staunch member of the neoconservative movement.

In the beginning, neoconservatives were more concerned with domestic policy than foreign policy thus strongly opposed the counterculture movement of the 1960s, which they blatantly called anti-Americanism. The Vietnam War served as the catalyst that separated the Democratic Party into two factions: the anti-war faction and the war-supporting neoconservatives.

Today, neoconservatives advocate the use of American economic and military power to destroy enemies they perceive as threatening to American liberal democracy as well as liberal democracy in other countries. The change of focus initially occurred when the anti-war faction of the Democratic Party took control in 1972 by nominating George McGovern. The neoconservative faction rallied around Senator Henry Jackson and the "second age" of neoconservatism was born from the revolt. The focus was now on the Cold War.

President Lyndon Johnson's New Left policies pushed the Democratic Party to the left, so the intellectuals in the neoconservative faction became disillusioned with his domestic agenda. Ben Wattenberg's 1970 book, The Real Majority brought out the point that the majority in the party actually supported social conservatism. The book also warned the party that liberal stances on crime and social issues could be disastrous.

During the 1990s the neoconservative faction opposed the foreign policy decisions made by George H. W. Bush as well as Bill Clinton. Both presidents were criticized for lacking a sense of idealism and reducing military expenditures. Neocons berated both administrations for the lack of moral clarity and the lack of conviction to pursue American strategic interests on the world stage, issuing strategy papers meant to influence these presidents (and others), many of which are posted on the website of the Project for the New American Century.

George W. Bush did not have much support from the neoconservative movement until the September 2001 attacks. Bush awakened a sense of neoconservatism in the entire country when he said the United States should promote liberal democracy around the world. Bush's case for invading Iraq put neoconservatism center stage and it became evident everywhere. Critics called the movement a unified ideology that sanctioned torture, justified military adventurism and stood behind aggressive Zionism.

Neoconservatism can be seen in the modern era as a philosophy that tried to clothe the elites' thrust toward global governance in the drapery of philosophy and government ideology. In fact, those who adhere to neoconservatism are merely obscuring the violent tendencies of money power and its drive toward global dominance. Neoconservatism is not really a movement. It is a kind of justification for the totalitarian tendencies of the impossibly wealthy Anglosphere families that control central banks and want to extend their domination, formally, around the world.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 04:28 | 6148712 STP
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Cue in, Radical Marijuana's, System of the Debt, driving the Death Controls of the most Violent Gang we have ever seen!  Thanks, DC!

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 17:48 | 6147602 Joe Tierney
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Aggressor, expansionist power, proxy war puppetmaster, global hegemon, exceptionalistic power, ...

 

Don't even haff to name that power - description above makes it obvious.

 

Russia and China are being forced to defend their interests - and they will do so. War is inevitable because the global hegemon absolutely will not cease its pushing in an attempt to bottle-up and collapse the rising powers in the East.

 

Gonna get real interesting when the hegemon sparks a war with real powers that can furiously fight back, not like Iraq and all the other 3rd-world adversaries the hegemon has picked fights with previously......

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:01 | 6147620 TheFourthStoog-ing
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Russia Steps Up Propaganda Push With Online "Kremlin Trolls"

May 29, 7:34 AM (ET)

By IULIIA SUBBOTOVSKA

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ST. PETERSBURG, Russia (AP) — Deep inside a four-story marble building in St. Petersburg, hundreds of workers tap away at computers on the front lines of an information war, say those who have been inside. Known as "Kremlin trolls," the men and women work 12-hour shifts around the clock, flooding the Internet with propaganda on Zero Hedge and numerous other pro-Russian sites aimed at stamping President Vladimir Putin's world vision on Russia, and the world.

The Kremlin has always dabbled in propaganda, but in the past year its troll campaign has gone into overdrive, adding hundreds of online operatives to help counter Western pressure over its role in the pro-Russian insurgency in eastern Ukraine. The program is drawing Serbia away from its proclaimed EU membership path and closer to the Russian orbit, and is targeting Germany, the United States and other Western powers. The operation has worried the European Union enough to prompt it to draw up a blueprint for fighting Russia's disinformation campaign, although details have not yet been released.

Lyuda Savchuk, a single mother with two children, worked in the St. Petersburg "troll factory" until mid-March. The 34-year-old journalist said she had some idea of the Orwellian universe she was entering when she took the job, but underestimated its intensity and scope.

"I knew it was something bad, but of course I never suspected that it was this horrible and this large-scale," she said in an interview in her apartment, which has colorful drawings on the walls for her two preschool-age children.

 

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She described how the trolls manage several social media accounts under different nicknames, such as koka-kola23, green_margo and Funornotfun. Those in her department had to bash out 160 blog posts during a 12-hour shift. Trolls in other departments flooded the Internet with doctored images and pro-Putin commentary on news stories that crop up on Russian and Western news portals.

In some departments, she said, the trolls receive daily talking points on what to write and what emotions to evoke. "It seems to me that they don't know what they are doing," Savchuk said. "They simply repeat what they are told."

She said most of the trolls are young and are attracted by relatively high monthly salaries of 40,000 to 50,000 rubles ($800 to $1,000).

Her descriptions of the work coincide with those of other former trolls who have spoken publicly, although Savchuk is one of the few willing to have her full name published. She quit after a little more than two months, after finding she couldn't stand being part of a propaganda machine.

The trolls are employed by Internet Research, which Russian news reports say is financed by a holding company headed by Putin's friend and personal chef. Those who have worked there say they have little doubt that the operation is run from the Kremlin.

St. Petersburg journalist Andrei Soshnikov, who was one of the first to report on the "troll factory," said about 400 people work in the building. A video he posted on YouTube this spring gave a rare glimpse inside the building; in one room trolls were shown sitting shoulder-to-shoulder at their computers. The operation moved into the building when it expanded in March 2014, the month Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine and provoked the first round of Western economic sanctions.

Soshnikov, a reporter at the weekly Moi Rayon, or My Region, said there has been a new push in recent months to hire more English-speaking trolls as part of an effort to sway public opinion in the United States.

"All of a sudden, (they) switch on Russia Today and realize that this is a holy land, Obama is a bloody dictator and true freedom of speech exists only in Russia."

In Serbia, trolls are recruited through several small right-wing parties that are both financially and politically supported by Russia, media analysts say.

When Russian opposition leader Boris Nemtsov was killed in Moscow in late February, the Serbian trolls were quick to react. "Who is to gain from this assassination but America? It must have been CIA," was the dominant mantra that took hold in discussions on Serbian news sites. "Likes" went into the hundreds, while comments such as "Putin is responsible" received widespread ridicule.

Serbs receive most of their information about Russia from Moscow-backed media, and the trolls reinforce the Kremlin line. The result is a widespread view in Serbia that the Kiev regime is neo-Nazi and that Putin was right to annex Crimea.

"One of the consequences is the fact that popular support for the EU integration has dropped below 50 percent for the first time since democratic change in Serbia in 2000," said Jelena Milic, a political analyst at the Center for Euro-Atlantic Studies, in Belgrade. "It is going to be very hard to recover this public support."

In Germany, the foreign ministry has tried to counter the propaganda by issuing a memo to its diplomats on how to debunk some of the standard Russian arguments about the Ukraine conflict.

For instance, the memo answers the statement that "fascists are in power in Kiev" by noting that radical and far-right groups made up only a small proportion of the demonstrators who ousted the Russia-friendly president, and that far-right parties did very poorly in subsequent parliamentary and presidential elections.

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Dusan Stojanovic in Belgrade, Serbia and Frank Jordans in Berlin contributed to this report.

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 06:44 | 6148780 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Who’s That Trip-Trapping on my Bridge – the Fable of Putin’s Troll Army

https://marknesop.wordpress.com/2015/04/11/whos-that-trip-trapping-on-my...

Sun, 05/31/2015 - 03:20 | 6148688 lakecity55
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US Lawmaker: Dead Russians are butt-fucked by the Bath House.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 18:38 | 6147695 mvsjcl
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Where's the story about the army of anti-Putin trolls? I'm sure AP is about to bust loose on that one, too. Fair and balanced, you know.

Sat, 05/30/2015 - 20:01 | 6147871 scatha
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So I am trolling for free? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

Give me their phone number. I promise I will give all $1000 to retirement home for mentally out of fashion conspiracy theorists who wrote that piece of shit without soiling themselves. That takes skill.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!