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China Will Establish No-Fly Zone Over Islands If "Threatened"
“We need to recognize this reality that China will likely continue with its destabilizing activities unless and until it perceives that the costs of doing so outweigh the benefits.”
That quote is from US Senator and ardent war hawk John McCain and as you might have guessed, he’s referring to China’s land reclamation project in The South China Sea. On Friday, we noted that the US claims to have spotted artillery on the islands which Washington says constitutes further proof that Beijing’s efforts in the Spratlys are aimed primarily at serving a military purpose, although it's not entirely clear to anyone what that purpose might be.
Defense Secretary Ash Carter — who last week assured China that the US would sail and fly anywhere it chose — again criticized China’s activities on Saturday at the Shangri-La Dialogue, a security event in Singapore. Carter also reportedly announced a half-billion dollar maritime security initiative presumably aimed at discouraging China from aggressively moving ahead with efforts to create sovereign territory where it did not previously exist.
WSJ has more:
Mr. Carter in his speech again called for “a lasting halt” to the land reclamation by China and others in the South China Sea, noting that the U.S., unlike China, isn’t staking any land claims in the region, but is seeking stability.
Mr. Carter also formally announced what he called a Southeast Asia Maritime Security Initiative, likely to be funded by Congress to the tune of $425 million to help build maritime security capacity among nations in the region…
Mr. Carter noted that the other countries have built outposts in what are known as the Spratly Islands, including Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia and Taiwan.
“Yet, one country has gone much farther and much faster than anyone other, and that’s China,” Mr. Carter said. He noted that China had built 2,000 acres of new land mass in the past 18 months.
“It is unclear how much farther China will go,” he said. “That is why this stretch of water has become the source of tension in the region and front-page news around the world.”
The DoD outlined Carter's speech and elaborated on ways the US plans to promote "collective security" including peace-promoting activites like building new long-range bombers and investing in the development of "electromagnetic railguns [and] lasers," and deploying P-8 Poseidon surveillance planes (the same plane which the Chinese Navy recently told to "Go Now!" when it came too close to the Spratlys).
Via DoD:
Carter explained the purpose of America’s rebalance to the Asia-Pacific is about sustaining the progress occurring all around the region and helping it continue to fulfill its promise.
The defense secretary said he is “personally committed” to the next phase of the rebalance where DoD will deepen “long-standing alliances and partnerships,” while diversifying America’s force posture, and making new investments in key capabilities and platforms.
According to Carter, this includes investing in technologies most relevant to the complexity of the security environment there, such as new unmanned systems for the air and sea, a new long-range bomber, and other technologies like the electromagnetic railgun, lasers, and new systems for space and cyberspace.
As new systems are developed, he said, “DoD will continue to bring the best platforms and people forward to the Asia-Pacific.”
This includes, Carter said, the latest Virginia-class submarines, the Navy's P-8 Poseidon surveillance aircraft, the newest stealth destroyer, the Zumwalt, and brand-new carrier-based E-2D Hawkeye early-warning-and-control aircraft.
The defense secretary said the Asia-Pacific has never had a region-wide alliance like NATO in Europe, and encouraged partnership in promoting regional peace, stability, and security [including] enhanc[ing] the capacities of the regional security architecture, particularly on maritime security such as DoD’s new Southeast Asia Maritime Security Initiative.
(The railgun in action)
(The P-8 Poseidon which is armed with torpedoes, cruise missiles, bombs, and mines)
The Chinese, who were also in attendance in Singapore, called Carter’s remarks “acceptable”, but when pressed about what it is exactly that Beijing is trying to accomplish in the region, the country’s delegation was allegedly vague. Here’s WSJ again:
Noting the military usefulness of the islets China is constructing in the disputed Spratly Islands, Adm. Sun Jianguo, deputy chief of staff of the People’s Liberation Army’s general staff, said they would mainly enable China to provide “international public services,” including maritime search and rescue, disaster relief, and scientific research...
“There is no reason for people to play up the issue in the South China Sea,” Adm. Sun said on Sunday at the Shangri-La Dialogue security summit in Singapore, where discussions involving regional defense ministers and military top brass have been completely dominated by the implications of China’s island-building program. The new islands “do not target any other countries, or affect freedom of navigation,” he said…
Malaysian armed forces chief Gen. Zulkifeli Mohd. Zin said Sunday that China should do more to explain its actions and intentions in the South China Sea, after Adm. Sun dodged questions on the subject. “We do not know what they are trying to do,” Gen. Zulkifeli said, referring to Beijing’s island-building activities. “It would be good if China can come out publicly and announce what they are doing so that they can be seen to be more transparent”...
Adm. Sun didn’t answer a string of questions about whether Chinese rhetoric about seeking win-win scenarios in the South China Sea really matched China’s behavior on the ground, disappointing observers who felt that he had wasted an opportunity to explain Chinese intentions.
We'll close with the following quote from Adm. Sun about what might happen should someone navigate too closely to these public service-providing islands which "do not affect freedom of navigation":
"Whether we will establish an ADIZ in the South China Sea will depend on whether our maritime security will be threatened."
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Dude, go for it. Defeat the NWO neocons, western terrorist banksters, and the queens with the cloven hooves and the world will idolize you. We will come rejoicing bringing in the thieves.
Just looked it up, it´s the other side of the planet. Have fun guys, send me news who has won the war.
China will never back down. This is the Chinese century after all.
Shame on China
That's like us claiming the Caribbean islands
Oh wait......
not to mention the aircraft carrier called the Hawaiian islands.
The only US carrier that will not be sunk by the Chinese.
I just looked it up on Google translator: "No fly zone" translated into English means, "No fry zone."
So we're ok. What's the fuss?
Schrödinger's ADIZ
The land reclamation for Henderson Field at Midway might be a better analogy, as I recall there was a rather serious dispute about who should own that un-naturally enlarged and reinforced atoll.
Possession is nine-tenths of the law.
the other 10% is tax or tithe.
So dispossess the mofos.
Time for America to stand up for its allies for a change instead of forking them over. Kick the chicoms out and turn the islands over to Vietnam and the Philippines. A casino on Scarborough Reef would make a dandy weekend getaway from Hong Kong.
Are you a fed banker mofo ?
Wait until they're built, then take them.
They're all the NWO. Just different factions competing for the Throne.
Ah, but I just cannot wait for the Lord Satan, Smiling down upon us from the Mushroom Cloud
Hmmm? Create my own island in international waters? Select area, no hurricanes, quakes, use solar power to add acres and acres, then sell it. But "no man is an island"..... who wants to be an island anyway, just want to live on one?
Well, they certainly out-printed the "terrorist" bankers, with $28 trillion in debt over six years, so perhaps it's time for the student to become the master.
The Chinese are fucking thieves and they have a totalitarian state that the NSA would be proud of! I can't believe people are actually so dumb as to support them in this land grab, because the Chinese WILL NOT come to your rescue when your human rights are threatened by Western governments that are becoming increasingly totalitarian.
Oh yeah, one more thing, the Chinese will also NOT come to your rescue or help you become rich by creating a gold-backed Yuan.
The Chinese are totalitarian thieves and will steal and copy anything (including the fiat currency system and George Orwell's 1984!!!) that the West has ever done.
Good points. China will not rescue your gold.
Anyone who bought gold at $1900 has already been fleeced by Chinese, since the gold surge was a mania in China. The Chinese who got all that easy money after the 2009 mega-stimulus turned around and bid up gold prices till they crashed it. Same as Bitcoin and everything else they pile onto.
The only way gold goes to $1900 again, is if China gives another $28 trillion worth of loans to their businessmen again.
I strongly suggest all Western readers and commentators here on ZH to book your next vacation to China and have look for yourself, and then perhaps re-evaluate those overly optimistic anc childishly naive views you have on China and how they are 'standing up' against those big satans, the USA and Europe.
I'm definitely extremely critical of what goes on in the Western world with regards to our civil freedom and fiat currency, but thinking China is the answer is just plain dumb and borderline treasonous. Better to be critical of our own 'elected' politicians instead of glorifying some totalitarian cleptocratic regime.
Problem is that Russia and China doesn't involve in in-country business, but USA is telling what you must to watch, to eat and there you need to spend your money.
PS not even your money, it's debt
"Problem is that Russia and China doesn't involve in in-country business, but USA is telling what you must to watch, to eat and there you need to spend your money."
Errrr, come again?! Russia has told all other Soviet Republics what to think, what to speak (Russian!) and what to do during the haydays of the Soviet Union, and China is no different when it comes to their infamous "cheque book diplomacy" in the rest of Asia, Africa and South America.
Or do you think the North Koreans and the people of Hong Kong have any real say in their own affairs?
If they continue replacing their peasant workers with robots, they're going to have 1.3 billion very mad/unemployed peasants.
They have 70 million men between the ages of 17~35 who will not have a wife. Those sort of imbalances don't just get ironed out without some serious social disorder. We're talking well-to-do Chinese going on bridal shopping sprees around the world which will piss people off; kidnapping of women on an epic scale; rampant sex trade; war.... you name it....
People in Hong Kong had no say under the British Occupation either !! It was a territory taken by the drug dealers in the First Opium War 1839-42.
Pity the Cali Cartel didn't come and take some of Miami and build their own narco state there
Hong Kong wasn't "taken" it was ceded in a treaty. The treaty expired in 1997. If it HAD been taken it might still be British today.
Yes, that's right, the Chinese 'gave' Hong Kong to Britain of their own free will!
Lulz
Hong Kong Island was captured by the British in the Opium Wars. The rest of Hong Kong was transferred to the British on a 99 year lease, which expired in 1997. The British gave back the island along with the lease terminated Kowloon peninsula at the expiration of the lease.
The Opium Wars were 1860's, the lease was 1898. "Free will" certainly played a part in the equation. #Lulzindeed
You need to check some history. In Soviet days it was strict policy that children were taught to read and write in their local native language before they were taught to read and write Russian. Other nations (eg UK, US, EU) did not do the equivalent, quite the reverse.
In retrospect it may have been a mistake not to have taught Russian first. Especially in Ukraine and the Baltics.
i think you know nothing about USSR.
In soviet russia, USSR knows about you.
Nice work mate.It's been only 6 days for ya on zh and your trolling , unbiased and misplaced ranting skills are good. +1
"Unbiased." Lol. Thanks, but I think you need to improve your English. The chinese government will fire you, and it'll be back to the fields, Zhang Wumao.
To be fair, it's true that China really doesn't care about what its citizens are doing. One of the sweet things about China is that the government doesn't have a lot of laws dictating life in a smarmy and overprotective way. Like, the drinking age is literally "newborn baby" because they don't even care what you do to your kid.
Still, they are learning from the West, how pretending to care about their citizens can be a good racket and can extend their power. Recently they passed seatbelt laws, for example. Now you get into a taxi, and the drivers hasten you to Anquan dai! Anquan dai! even for a short jaunt down the street. Must be some steep fines there. Cha-ching!
Their actual total disregard for the well-being of citizens who are smart enough to be quiet provided a lot of amazing freedom that westerners can't comprehend... but I think they've realise how useful it is to pretend to care.
Din
So they have the same attitude in China about feeding babies dirty martinis that American cops have about killing Negros.
I bet a lot more Negros are dying in America after being shot by cops than Chinese babies die from cirrhosis of the liver.
What kind of care does our government have for us that doesn't increase the profits of large corporations?
I actually agree in large part. That might have been ambiguous, because I was trying to be a little hyperbolic about drinking age. I never saw anyone feed a baby martinis, and they wouldn't do that. But they could. The state does not enumerate all the ways that people should act, or else...
There's a freedom in China, for now, because the state deosn't care about you. The care that the government has for its people in other countries seems to coincide with extension of control, and I see that same idea growing in China now. Once they realise that caring is controlling, China will become what the West is... "Caring."
Nuffins
There are around 40 million Blacks in America and if you think that more than .1% of them are cared for by the remaining 290 million, we will have to review your qualifications to post here.
When I went to high school (long before your mom and dad even knew each other) I remember reading how the Chinese society revered the elderly. I suppose that stuck with me because it was quite the opposite here in America.
Soon ( the 70s?) the MSM dropped that story because it cast America and its values in a bad light. I recently saw a story that told how the respect for elderly in China by the young has started to diminish. Why? because of Western values: jeans, hair cuts, tatts. Things Chinese youth picked up from television and youtube.
With a billion four hundred million citizens we may not see all the stories of Chinese fathers who strap their toddlers into a car and park it in the sun for six hours and Chinese mothers who drive their children into lakes to drown them.
But we have plenty of these stories here in America and it's very hard to imagine that the Chinese are less caring than we are.
Finally, I'm not sure why but I firmly believe that a nation of a billion four has to be run much differently than a nation of 330 million.
I'm sure you won't find current era news stories of such (given the vice grip control over the media the CCP has in Chinese society), but a review of Chinese literature from way back when up to the Communist take-over in 1949 reveals some very deeply disturbing practices in China, especially the practice of selling daughters (usually to brothels) at very young ages. Of course, all throughout Asia we've seen the practice of aborting female babies, whereas in the old days (before ultra sound) these were stories of female infants being drowned in rivers and wells.
I dunno, is that LESS caring? Yes, run differently.
Hello substitute for Nuffins
As you know Western Civilization began with the 'exposing' of sick, deformed or unwanted children.
Thereafter Western Civilization produced Leonardo da Vinci, George Washington, and the Right To Life people. It is the indelible mark of a great hypocritical society to expect other societies to immediately cease behaving the way the high hypocrites themselves only recently quit doing.
To me caring means caring for everyone equally, and not just those like yourself. That isn't caring. That's genetic chauvinism.
I hardly think that Americans can be honored for caring about the children of the Native Americans or the children of the antebellum slaves.
"Caring" was in quotation marks for a reason. It's not actual care.
Now, individuals do really care for those close to them in all countries. But "care" in quotes is reserved for the state that makes a pretense of caring to extend control.
What I'm saying is that China is an amateur at "caring" but it is learning and implementing more laws to "care" for its citizens. I'm not really talking about individuals really caring.
note to self
for obvious reasons the writers and editors at zh don't want to see the expression 'cirrhosis of the liver' in print
avoid it in future
A 100 upvotes from Hong Kong. Don't believe all these shit talkers are just American militia men hiding in their undergound bunkers fighting the zionist new world order bilderbergers. Swarms of wu mao around here too.
Hate to break it to you it ain't Chinese businessmen controllling the "price" of gold. It's the western bankers through the LBMA and Comex. China's happy to acquire the real stuff from them at fire sale prices to the tune of thousands of tons/year. Pretty soon we'll see who controls the real price of gold.
I'm aware that you think that. If you were right, then the prices would never have gone parabolic in the first place. Bidders bid. It causes the market to respond. There's some rigging and it impairs the markets occasionally, but that mania was a good sign that it's not entirely rigged.
You give people a lot of Red Mr. Mao and they want Yellow Metal instead because they don't trust the health of their economy, and... gold gets bid up.
In November, when gold hit $1150, I asked a Chinese friend how to buy gold (apparently right in the banks at abot 4% premium above spot price) and she told me "Oh, you don't want gold, everybody used to, but it went down a lot."
Now they all want stocks. Get some while they're hot.
Chinese have thousands of years of working through issues that have no solutions. Gold is a commodity you will find that you can trade for the things that matter.
"The Chinese have a totalitarian state " ! Really , and what is the USA under Obongo ? Using drones to kill American citizens , Drones to kill guests at wedding parties , every person's phones are tapped by the spooks , presidential elections are decided by billions of dollars sponsors .The Congress and the Senate are owned by AIPAC is that a democracy or a kleptocracy ? The USA army think they are the police of the world ! deluded . The Spratly Islands are occupied by about 4 surrounding countries : Vietnam , Philippines , Malaysia , Tawan and now China . What has the USA administration to do with this ? Warmongers and wankers
You misspelled Taiwan, and you left out Japan. T he US is a protectorate of both Japan and the Philippines, which is why the US has an interest in the Spratleys.
The US is a pprotectorate of Japan FBO China and other Eat Asian nations. I'm sure China would be A-OK if we withdrew from our role in East Asia and the South China Seas.....hmmmm? Let Japan become is own military power once again....hmmmmm? I Wanda what would happen to the economy if the Japanese were allowed to spend 10% or more of its GDP on military expenditures....?
Imagine the effect on the US military if we were free from our role as protectorate in East Asia. Why, we'd have enough money to refocus and correctly address Russia!
#imagineanuclearJapan
So, China will establish Two Zones: a NO FRY Zone, and a FRY ZONE.
Sounds like Chinese FREEDOM FRIES.
time fries rike an awwow, fluit fries rike a banana
Chinaman will make ailclaft calliel into sub calliel, and make stealth destloyel vely stealth.
The Spratly islands are so much closer to Vietnam, Malaysia and the Philippines yet China is claiming them. This is clearly a grab for oil and gas riches and for control of sea lanes.
US and Japan can never allow that. All the angry rhetoric being hurled today may become bombs and missiles tomorrow.
Yeah, buttloads of potential oil reserves in the Spratly chain and China has decides to play power politics against President Zippy and Ketchup-Boy. It comes down to rules of engagement and mistakes are easy. It'll likely be regional but can escalate quickly and since the US fleet maintenance is so far behind we can only deploy about 40% of our capability, we'd better walk softly, but our new emperor the buttclown in chief think that enough speeches and empty promises will fix everything.....
Iraq is so much closer to Russia, Iran and ISIS yet America claims it. It is clearly a grab for oil and gas riches and for control of the sea lanes.
Russia, Iran and China can never allow that. etc., etc., etc......
good point
Yep, sea lanes especially. Most of their middle east and EU traffic goes through that area and just like Britain and America, in a trading empire, you MUST control your sea lanes......
" You must control" - it works for all ...
Texas is so much closer to Mexico and yet America also claims it.
My wallet is so much closer to me than the local tax office, but guess who really owns its contents?
someone get Winston Churchill an atlas, stat
It's clearly not the USA business. That is your problem, you need to stop thinking that whole world belongs to you
That is your problem, you need to stop thinking that whole world belongs to you.
It does until it doesn't; that's how empires work.
Maybe I'll see you on the other side, brother.
Surely its for the native population to choose nationality.
As there wasn't one,seems its Chinese by right of development.
At least they didn't exterminate any locals to develop.
that's pretty low, WC... even for you... "right of development" in disputed waters, what a fucking joke...
Worked for the USA, after genocide on the indigenous natives.
We are talking uninhabitable reefs and sandbars here.
Nobody gave a shit about them really , otherwise sovereignty would have been decided decades ago,
until the Chinese decided to build that is..
Your hypocracy stinks almost as much as the various claimants, and Uncle Scams.
The Chinese are not going to let the Spratley go anyway, so this is blather or war.
Realpolitik 101.A course you should definitely take.
There was internationally protected coral on them reefs.
Chicoms buried them in sand.
A sin against the planet and it's ecosystems.
And yet the US is destroying coral reefs and the endangered manatee breeding grounds in order to build an airbase off the coast of Okinawa?
Surely you object to that as well.
These ´disputed waters´ are far away from any land/state.
Might even be international waters.
But now there is land...
The local reef denizens, associated sea life, etc., would probably beg to differ if they were still alive.
"Carter explained the purpose of America’s rebalance to the Asia-Pacific is about sustaining the progress occurring all around the region and helping it continue to fulfill its promise."
The purpose is to fulfill its promise. What's it's promise? To fulfill its purpose.
Syllogistic Logic at its Best ... Kudos!!!
Obozo, The man Who Shot Bin Laden, will lead from behind.
Obozo leads from behind because he likes staring at mens asses. He loves to have his rear covered by Reggie.
Soap, shower, bend over.......
Someone please show me in print where the entire world is owned, controlled, and patrolled by America?
Somewhere I recall seeing from our founding fathers about staying the FUCK out of foreign entanglements. Yet we seem to poke our nose in everyone's business.
(sarcastic tone)
Perhaps this will suffice to convince you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX5ZRE26YWM
I'm convinced now. Let's free the fuck outta everybody! Love bombs for all.
Thanks for stopping by Knucks.
Holy Bejeeeezus we got a load of trolls hittin' everything!
Sorta like the End of Days
The Marshall Plan is still in effect.
Middle finger to the USA
Middle finger to the US government.
FIFY
If Jeb Bush doesn't get elected..... OH, man....
The China of 2015 reminds me of Japan of the 1920's and 1930's. China thinks it has to have these resources to be secure, it doesn't. Japan thought the same thing in the 30's. But Japan has almost zero resources yet became the 2nd largest economy in the world. I suggest China ask the simple questions, Why? and How?
Any of you think China will bring about a new peaceful age are incredibly stupid. Yes, stupid. And if you muslims think China defeating the West will be good for you, think again. China will have no problem wiping you off the face of the planet and there will be no one to stop them.
So China is somehow threatening US?
Are you stupid? Look at the map and the countries in the S. China Sea area. How many countries is China threatening? The world advances with peace and stability and China could be a huge force towards the world moving into a new age. China sadly has chosen the other path. Do you understand what is happening in the world in technology, science, medicine etc? Do you understand we are on the verge of something incredible for humans? I didn't think so.....sigh....
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
I didn't realize ZH had a kindergarten posting pack.
In 2011 the US began its effort to destabilize the Middle East by promoting the rebellion in Syria. It has since moved its efforts into the Balkans with a rebellion-in-waiting in Macedonia.
In between the two -- and calling it the happy Arab Spring -- there has been trouble in Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, a weak attempt in Erdogan's Turkey.
Lets not forget the fount of our problems today, Ukraine. For that south of the border flavor, Venezuela, Brazil, and Argentina.
ANY MORON HERE WHO THINKS THE CIA AND ITS $50 BILLION A YEAR ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THESE ELECTED GOVERNMENT DESTABILIZATIONS, CAN TAKE A NUMBER AND WAIT IN LINE TO SUCK OBAMAS COCK.
Your skills are poor if you think this situation is similar to tgat of japans . There are many differences .
Ok, I'm listening. List them.
I'll start
1) population
2) national square milage
3) reserve currency in da bank
4) the Great Wall
that's my 2 cents
(ok I took the easy ones)
As a result of having a feckless President who has neutered the respect the US once commanded around the world, no one gives a shit anymore.
America will have to get used to being walked on as our leader gallivants around the world apologizing and bowing to other world leaders.
As a kid I was proud to be American. Now I prefer not to think about it.
Jeb Bush is pissed bout the expiring Patriot Act.
Send Jeb a few bucks. Each dollar you send is a $ vote for safety.
(Chinese accent)
"Gou houme, faat boye! Bee ah maan!"
dude, i bet the fishing is awesome there. if i were Tony Stark i would buy an old minelayer, trick it out, and go squat on one of those islands wiht a harem of playboy models and sell guns to china and the US.
Ok, but you better figure out where your gonna take a shit.
Oh I cannot wait - five Asian countries fighting each other over some coral reefs -- and the US has to stick its nose into the fight. That strategy has worked so well for us in so many other places in the world? Or maybe not...
Clearly manifest destiny of the `Muricans.
Shoot the motherfuckers down.
When Jiao Ni comes limping home again, Hurrah! Hurrah!
We’ll give him an artificial limb, Hurrah! Hurrah!
The girls will stare, the boys will shout,
but bankers won't give a fuck about
cuz they'll all be rich - when - Jiao Ni comes limping home.
I doubt the Chinese can cover what they think is theirs with just one used aircraft carrier. I'm sure everyone is shaking in their boots. All the tech they have comes from stolen US intellectual property. We should have left them in there rice paddy's... fucking Nixxon.
Aircraft carriers are useless against a major land power like China. The Chinese will have advanced anti aircraft and anti ship missiles soon and will sink aircraft carriers like they were sitting ducks. And modern subs can do the same. The power projection of the US military has come to an end in the eastern part of the Pacific.
Hard to put boots on the ground in the ocean.
Look at that map. There are islands. Imagine two or three batteries of Chinese SAMs and anti-naval missiles on most of them. And a few airfields for fighter jets. And Chinese subs patrolling the Southern Chinese Sea. How far away do you think a US carrier group had to stay to be safe? Probably pretty close to Hawaii.
... and that's about all the ChiComs can do, fucking imagine it... which is why the US steams carrier groups up and down the Taiwan strait when the ChiComs get all uppity and shit... which will happen again if they keep this shit up, watch and see...
Yeah, Taiwan ... now completely within the reach of the Russian S-400 SAMs from the Chinese mainland. Will be fun to watch how the`Muricans will defend that island when the Chinese will repatriate that province.
And just how long would those S-400 bases last after the first one was fired?
How long will those 50 or 60 fighter jets of a US carrier last when they get downed by the Chinese air defense over mainland China? And who is gonna defend the carrier against Chinese naval missiles and submarine torpedoes?
Mu Mu mmmmm Muricaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
Mu mmmm mu mu muricaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
B-2 Spirit, B-52, would take care of that stuff first. Air supremacy comes first.
Lol, B-52s are like ducks, you just shoot them down with every mediocre air defense system. The Russians have the signature of the B-2 already for their air defense, not sure they gave it to the Chinese, but you don`t get air supremacy over mainland China with a few B-2 bombers anyway.
If the boots are heavy enough they go right to the ground, especially in an ocean.
"... in the eastern part of the Pacific."
I see someone else needs an atlas
I think the US military is yet to come to the "eastern part of the Pacific."
The concept of 'No Fly Zones' over land that is not yours - an idea perfected by the United States!
And you have to be able to back it up. I don't see it.
I got so many down votes, so i get that you guys ready to die for South China islands.
Yes, americans is insane...
but no pip about Diego Garcia or Guantanamo
there's no pip about Diego Garcia because it doesn't belong to the US... the UK is paid for the privilege...
there's no pip about Guantanamo because that area is leased from Cuba per treaty, which both sides honor to this day...
as you can see, making peaceful arrangements with the local governments in question for use of the space is a far cry from terraforming land out of nowhere in disputed waters, planting a big fucking red flag on it, and declaring that it's yours and yours alone and everyone else needs to honor that, including the goddamned shore limits and fucking airspace... it's a load of crap and everyone knows it, including the Chinese...
I swear to almighty jeebus this board has some of the biggest dumbfucks alive posting on it...
haha, suck it downvoters... look it up, you know I'm right, that must absolutely SUCK for you hahahaha
and not a pip about Pagasa Island... which US puppets purchased for 1 peso, and is now used to house US military "guests"... or any of the other land grabs or reclamations in the Spratleys.
If you plan on making a defense for each and every of the 600 overseas military bases used by the US, instead of picking a chooses specific examples to support a vague thesis (assuming there is one in there) you are going to run into some problems.
BTW - original lease and renewal terms for Guantanamo were "arranged" with a US puppet regime at shockingly below-market terms.
Yes, you are correct. Zerohedge comments are now a prime target of mussie, chinese and russian trolls. Sad......
Troll On
It's gotten out of control.
yes when american 800 million yellow press campaign their paid stink tanks , foreign funded media presstitutes failed to spread their propaganda effectively , empire titbits start defaming others by calling them trolls , disinformation agents etc . Sad to see murican kool aiders have fallen to such low level scum . us gov must pay monthly checks and ebt cards for your loyality .
You should at least attempt to learn English. At first I thought you were an wumao, but now I'm leaning toward bot.
Propaganda workers are in danger. Yet another important sector of the Chinese economy goes robotic!
They get paid 7000 yuan each week to tow the party line.
Americans so stupid, they don't know anything about where military bases.
USA laws somehow not works in Guantanamo, but you claim that it was leased from Cuba.
Americans didn't comply any treaty.
Who said that the occupied us islabd bases have no issues ? Duego garcia occupied by british wearlier belonged to almost 0.1 million people living there and all of th
Are you?
Didn't realise these were so far from China til i saw the map. Its really a local matter so don't really see why the US is getting so involved. I wouldn't put it past the Chinese to shoot a SAM at a US jet if they do breach a NoFlyZone. Then again, China may start pulling some of its financial levers against the US, of which there are plenty. That'll invoke a change of policy in Washington.
China is threatening the 60 year peace and stability in that region by occupying territory that is not theirs. Just recently China has decided that those islands belong to them. If China is successful, what makes you think they will stop there? Mongolia, Siberia, parts of India, parts of SE Asia at one time were part of China, will China go after those countries too? Unfortunately China has a leader that wants to be the new Mao, and he may drag the entire world in a war nobody wants.
The earth's bully is gonna get a
Black eye and a broken nose
And have all his lunch money stolen.
And forever afterward the hector
Will be laughed at and ignored.
Good Luck Merika!
Muricaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!
I thought that only the USSA could establish "no fly zones". Those Chinks are sure getting uppity.
Thought I'd pen a note to Barry O"Bama and suggest instead a shooting war with the ChiComs we just impose trade sanctions and quit buying all their crap. I'm sure that Walmart, and the Military Industrial complex would happily go along.
Merca looks in the broken mirror and still sees a pretty little tart...the rest of the planet sees an aging, clapped out whore with stretch marks and syphillis, still holding on to her saloon day illusions when she was the only trick in town.
All is changed and a terrible ugliness is upon US.
After all the hope dope from O Bomber, Hillbillie Klingon for presidentess is the logical conclusion to the impending collapse of all things Mercan.
How is it any different from Vietnam also building in the Spratly islands?
On Discovery Great Reef.
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China will bitch-slap Uncle Scam so hard, he'll turn into a permanent bobble-head.....
We should start charging them for the tide changes on their coast.
After all, it is our moon. Our flags are on it, which makes it American territory.
Then perhaps the US should be sued by other nations for the damage caused by "their moon".
Sometimes I lose track of exactly which bunch of nationalists, ideologues, sycophants, hypocrites and useful idiots I am should be moar pissed at.
(and yes... the double entendre and resulting irony is intentional)
Actually, CCCP (Soyuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik) was the first to put national flags on the moon. The Luna 2 spacecraft in 1959.
So, if you want to be legal about it, the moon belongs to all the former Soviet nations jointly.
However CCCP dedicated the moon to all nations in perpetuity, so the only nations legally denied the moon are any that disrepect the treaty and claim ownership to it.
We should start charging them for the tide changes on their coast.
After all, it is our moon. Our flags are on it, which makes it American territory.
As another poster has stated, I also did not appreciate the distance of these islands from China (or the proximity to the other countries who are claiming sovereignty). There is no way China could patrol this atea, or exploit the resources for oil exploration. Clearly their intent is to obtain the natural gas and oil in the area. While this can be done peacefully, I have little doubt that the Chinese could turn the island into a fortress and more importantly, give their patrol aircraft an unsinkable refueling station. I fully expect that China will simply forge ahead and develop the islands, develop an airfield, and will then begin drilling operations. If there is any challenge, they will militarize those islands. I doubt they care about what the rest of the world says or does. While China is the first country to turn a reef into an island, it should be noted that three other countries in that same area have been creating larger islands by using similar methods to expand smaller islands -- but you won't hear that on the MSM or White House briefings.
GET THE FUCKING DRONES!!!! END THESE COMMUNISTS!!!
Muricaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
China is just copying what you Amerikkans done the last 60 years...
How it's good to taste your own medicine Amerikkans and get bitch-slapped you and your allies ?
Railguns and fat planes full of experts running cameras are not going to worry China, they are historically the world superpower before the British and US.