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Hacked Emails Expose George Soros As Ukraine Puppet-Master
Just days after George Soros warned that World War 3 was imminent unless Washington backed down to China on IMF currency basket inclusion, the hacker collective CyberBerkut has exposed the billionaire as the real puppet-master behind the scenes in Ukraine. In 3 stunning documents, allegedly hacked from email correspondence between the hedge fund manager and Ukraine President Poroshenko, Soros lays out "A short and medium term comprehensive strategy for the new Ukraine," expresses his confidence that the US should provide Ukraine with lethal military assistance, “with same level of sophistication in defense weapons to match the level of opposing force," and finally explained Poroshenko's "first priority must be to regain control of financial markets," which he assures the President could be helped by The Fed adding "I am ready to call Jack Lew of the US Treasury to sound him out about the swap agreement."
The hacking group CyberBerkut claims it has penetrated Ukraine’s presidential administration website and obtained correspondence between Soros and Ukraine’s President Petro Poroshenko. It has subsequently posted all the intercepted pdfs on line at the following location. More details as RT earlier reported:
The hacktivists have published three files online, which include a draft of “A short and medium term comprehensive strategy for the new Ukraine” by Soros (dated March 12, 2015); an undated paper on military assistance to Kiev; and the billionaire’s letter to Poroshenko and Ukraine’s Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk, dated December 23, 2014.
According to the leaked documents, Soros supports Barack Obama’s stance on Ukraine, but believes that the US should do even more.
He is confident that the US should provide Ukraine with lethal military assistance, “with same level of sophistication in defense weapons to match the level of opposing force.”
“In poker terms, the US will ‘meet, but not raise,” the 84-year-old businessman explained, supposedly signing one of the letters as “a self-appointed advocate of the new Ukraine.”
The Western backers want Kiev to “restore the fighting capacity of Ukraine without violating the Minsk agreement,” Soros wrote.
Among other things, the leaked documents claim that the Ukrainian authorities were also asked to “restore some semblance of currency stability and functioning banking system” and “maintain unity among the various branches of government” in order to receive assistance from foreign allies.
Soros believes that it’s up to the EU to support Kiev with financial aid, stressing that “Europe must reach a new framework agreement that will allow the European Commission to allocate up to $1 billion annually to Ukraine.”
As for the current state of economy, the billionaire wrote that former Chilean finance minister, Andres Velasco, after visiting Ukraine on his request, returned with “a dire view of financial situation."
“The new Ukraine is literally on the verge of collapse” due to the national bank’s lack of hard currency reserves, Soros warned Poroshenko.
The correspondence shows that the billionaire has been in constant touch with the authorities in Kiev and consulting them.
Digging into the details of the documents, we find one intriguing snippet:
As you know, I asked Andrés Velasco, a prominent economist who was Chile’s very successful minister of finance from 2006-2010 to visit Kyiv where he met the Prime Minister; the President was in Warsaw at the time. Velasco came back with a dire view of the financial situation. The National Bank of Ukraine has practically no hard currency reserves. That means that the hryvnia has no anchor. If a panic occurred and the currency collapsed as it did in Russia, the National Bank could not stabilize the exchange rate even if only temporarily as Russia did by injecting $90 billion.
Your first priority must be to regain control over the financial markets—bank deposits and exchange rates. Unless you do, you will have no way to embark on deeper reforms. I believe the situation could be stabilized by getting the European Council to make a commitment in principle that they will pull together the new $15 billion package that the IMF requires in order to release the next tranche of its original package at the end of January 2015. Based on that commitment the Federal Reserve could be asked to extend a $15 billion three months swap arrangement with the National Bank of Ukraine. That would reassure the markets and avoid a panic.
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I am ready to call Jack Lew of the US Treasury to sound him out about the swap agreement.
One wonders what other matters of national importance involve George Soros getting on the line with the US Treasury Secretary to arrange virtually unlimited funds courtesy of the US Federal Reserve just to promote one person's ulterior agenda?
And just like that, conspiracy Theory becomes Conspiracy Fact once again.
The full documents are below:
Ironically, the first document laying out the "short and medium-term comprehensive strategy for new Ukraine" and signed by George Soros, "a self-appointed advocate of the New Ukraine", was ironically created by Tamiko Bolton, the 40 year old who became Soros' third wife several years ago.
The next letter, one directly sent by Soros to Ukraine's president Poroshenko and prime minister Yatseniuk, comes courtesy of a pdf created by Douglas York, Soros' personal assistant.
Priority To Fix Financial Markets
Finally, a letter (authored by Yasin Yaqubie of the International Crisis Group based on its pdf metadata properties), which lobbies the US "to do more."
Ukraine Letter to Potus - Lethal Aid
To sum up: Soros is basically lobbying on behalf of Ukraine, pushing for cash and guns, to oppose Putin in every way possible.
If genuine, and based on their meta data, they appear to be just that, these lettes show how Soros is trying to weasel around the Minsk agreements (for instance, how to train Ukrainian soldiers without having a visible NATO presence in Ukraine). The documents link up Nuland with Soros, and clears up who is truly pulling the strings of the US State Department.
Finally, while the documents don't mention what Soros has in store for Ukraine, one can use their imagination.
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You mean to tell me this Jew was working to destroy the Ukraine much like he's done to his adopted US? Does he do this to Israel too?
Soros is also the money man behind the anti-police demonstrations in Ferguson and Baltimore.
Let's not forget... Soros spelled backwards is ... SOROS! Which we all know is short for Beelzebub
In NWO Newspeak (One world language) it means Will soar!*
* I shit you not
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros
and, in Esperanto, it means "will soar".[115]
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2007/10/the_religious_quest_of_g...
Tivadar Schwartz seized upon the cult of Esperanto to fill his own God-shaped void, a vacuum created by his repudiation of Judaism.This smells of Hitlery
He learned it as a teenager when he was a Nazi collaborator in WWII...
Ladies and gentlemen,
an original Zionist Jew!
Tell me how they are under-repped and persecuted around the world again therefore we MUST protect them and never criticize them. It's Monday. I need a good fucking laugh.
Soros sure is making himself a candidate for one of Vladimir's Polonium cocktails.
Sleep tight, George.
One day George.
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=u-FLsp0ee50
After the popular uprisings and civil disobediance George will be qualified to change his name to SoreAss.
Soros is just a waterboy for the Banksters, their public face. All wars are Bankster wars!
Who, exactly, do you think these "banksters" are?
They are the Trillionaires and Billionaires- all of them.
They own the BIS, the Central Banks, the Fed, CFR, UN, etc.
You have it bass ackwards.
If you want to know WHO the banksters are, read about the battle of Waterloo, learn about the City of London, and the history of the British Central Bank. Soros is NOTHING compared to the real controllers.
I thought you might say that.
I agree (somewhat, as I will explain), but you're missing the fact that as I stated, it's ALL the Trillionaires and Billionaires that are pulling the levers. There's elements of collusion, yet just as with any business investment, all are free to invest in the strategies that they feel have the greatest chance of success, the best ROI.
But it all comes down to individuals- Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Kuhn-Liebs, Browns Harrimans, Morgans, Soros, etc.
THESE INDIVIDUALS control the City of London, Central banks, and the Bilderbergs, CFR, etc- NOT some invisible cabal.
Yes, there are numerous powerful cabals- but behind these cabals are INDIVIDUALS- and that is where the real power lies- in the TRILLIONAIRES and BILLIONAIRES.
So to say that a Billionaire, Soros for example- is nothing, just a waterboy- is way off base.
Fuck you, Soros!
George Soros is almost a million years old. The guy's got one foot on a banana peel and the other in a grave. But he's still rocking the boat.
LOL, so he wants the EU to get saddled with a ball and chain like Ukraine. Just like GS got the EU saddled with Greece by helping it fudge the numbers. All these actions show the concerted J-mafia line expounded by Nuland 'Fuck the EU'
If one didnt know better they were trying to destroy the EU. Guess there is money to be made from doing that.
The Goy in Europe better realize who their real enemy is and that the Russians are their friends, while the AIPAC subjugated USA is the enemy.
LOL he talks about donors and investors. He wants the goy to be donors so that his investments can be made whole.
What a f@#cking piece of turd this guy is.
Its all about causing wars amongst the goy, and ruining economies so they can take advantage of fire sale prices. They have a lot of worthless fiat their kin at the FED can print so that they can then go to the discount window and buy up Euro companies at rock bottom prices.
Welcome the new world, same as the old.
interesting, how many have a problem with all things beginning "EU", eh? how many want to saddle it with their problems, how many say "fuck the EU", how many would like to disintegrate it
look, since you point of view is so unapologetic pro-Russian: Russia can't be our friend... as long as Russia does not want to be our friend
and for that to happen, some views - like yours - would have to change a bit, first. beginning with this "the EU is a monolythic one-ness" that transpires so often
Soros is the man behind Bellingcat. The front to explain the Russians are involved in mH17.
Soros is also linked to the Dutch royal family via "princess" Mabel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Mabel_of_Orange-Nassau
MH17 was a combined flight from Amsterdam with Royal Dutch airline, KLM.
Royal Dutch Shell was the big party involved in the energy deals in eastern Ukraine.
But I am sure there are no links between those facts.
Soros owned the Malaysian airline 777, MH370 flight that, as we are told, that went down in the Pacific but also landed in Diago Garcia and then ended up in Televiv. He is the quintesential Zionist. You can read about the exploits of his doctrine in the Bible. At 84 he continues to lie, cheat, steel, perverse, etc. Once we destroy the money system and remove from the greed those like him will fall off the face of the earth. The sooner the better.
Soros Criminal Conviction Exposes “Human Rights” Scam
George Soros is not Jewish, he is a Luciferian Globalist.
Well, not the kind who adheres to the writings of Moses, i.e. the 10 Commandments. If anything, he's a practitioner of the mystic Babylonian Cabal writings/teachings -- which come not from their desert deity -- the war-god Yahweh/Elohim -- via its Founders in Faith, like Abraham or Moses or from their 'Prophets', but from centuries of Rabbi compilations, which are analogous to a Craft Processed Cheese product by its Clerical Elite (its 'Popes'). We know what choice names* and words Jesus had for their ilk even in his day, for deserting and hijacking the teachings of Moses for teachings of their own.
* Pharisees, Sadducees and Scribes = Den of Thieves, Vipers, Murderers, Sons of Satan
Almost all of the Globalists/Imperialist Zionists who pose as 'Jews' (and appear to practice some liberal form of it), use Judaism as a FLAG OF CONVENIENCE, and thus as a SAFE HARBOR for their socipathic, globalist ambitions.
Sadly, since many real Jews (followers of Moses) get the Trickle-Down Benefit from the global pillaging of these slimy and ruthless guys, most are not to vocal about their opposition. They thus amount to the Controlled Opposition, in effect if not in intention. They might see themselves even as 'Chosen' -- even if actually Self-Chosen -- but they nonetheless enjoy their Protected Species status and associated Benefits, and even as critics or the political opposition they are controlled nonetheless (by containing and limiting their influence).
Nice work Kirk
I hate Soros as much as the next guy. But that opening sentence of yours is garbled, fever-delusional hogwash.
Soros owns MH370? (I say owns because you assert that it still exists as something other than a splatter at the bottom of the Indian Ocean)
MH370 landed at Diego?
Flew on to Tel Aviv?
You have proofs? Besides something you can link to a conspiracy theory blog?
Taken your temperature lately?
I had to scroll this far down to find some sanity in this thread. +1
All I've seen thus far is what I always see: Evidence that the "Kremlin trolls" have as usual packed the ZH boards, busily typing away for their 30,000 ruble/month stipend.
Hope it's enough to cover your carpel tunnel surgeries, bitchez!
Don't go any further, I understand that you're an asshole.
Hmmmmm, sounds familiar. Didn't end up well for his ilk
Soros is a farce...he's a first degree sociopath. He says he is all for helping the little man yet in WW2 he sold out his own people and later he took down the bank of England...this guy has no altruistic atom in his body. The liberal left is a tool that has bought into his bullshit and deep pockets mistakenly thinking what he does is for them and not for himself. Some shit just doesn't change.
My admiration of you has never waivered Latina Lover, keep the truth strong!
(It is a light to the ignorant)
Thank you for your fabulous comments, they are much needed in a world full of lies and fraud....
Insider trading conviction of Soros is upheld
I think the reference was to the house of Rothschilds..
Water boy ? He's first team bro, why r u covering for him?
Please google the Battle of Waterloo. The amount of money made in 1815 by the Banksters is well in excess of Soros fortune in todays depreciated Fed Notes. Soros is a very powerful man, a multi billionaire, but his resources are dwarfed by the real money masters.
Notice when Khodorkovsky was imprisoned, we found out who REALLY owned his supposed assets.
Water boy ? He's first team bro, why r u covering for him?
Ole Sorrows is simply working to make sure of this:
The Khazars want to go back to Khazaria.
All the Stans + Unraine IS Khazaria.
All of this madness is to somehow, clumsily, begin the drive to creat a new Israel, since they have Shat in their own nest mightily and long now.
Sanity for me...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk1TSBW_368
Actually, the bulk of Khazaria is in Ukraine- it also includes a tiny bit of Russia and Kazahkstan:
http://www.khazaria.com/images/khazaria.gif
https://www.google.com/search?q=ukraine+map&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
PS- Nice work on the guitar tune- congrats.
Interesting eh Seek? The great homecoming hollow-cost is being rained down upon Ukraine AGAIN. Remember remember HOLODOMOR!
So yes, the global parasite is on the march again....it wants to go home...
and thanks re. guitar, trying to push some boundaries there too :-)
I trust RT even less than the US Media, and that's saying a lot.
You don't like alternative views perhaps . US Media is a discredited yellow press
If you like it, you can stay in your delusion.
Oh regional Indian thanks
I listened to your jam, nice!
For me your guitarplaying explains your wrigthing style, and color your comments.
Thanks SS :-) Nice that you made that three way connect....
I would give much to have a cup of coffee with you.
That's really nice of you to express wendigo. If the intention is strong enough, perhaps it will happen?
They say the world is a small place now... :-)
ORI, here's a great link from another Indian chap, who talks about the "1.2 x 2000^2" who kept getting wiped out MULTIPLE times in the period 1914-1938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk
In a classic case of Directing and Defining "The Argument", it is noteworthy that the numbers of Christians (Catholics in Europe, the Eastern Orthodox in Russia, and some Protestants) greatly outnumbered those in the Holocaust. It underscores the point even further, if you consider that these murdered Christians were killed by the Nazis, who were or pretended to be 'Christian' themselves.
I get it (intellectually) the killing of people of another faith (Nazis killing Jews), but killing you own kind -- on such an organized and massive scale? That is what should be reported as the True Holocaust. And that is what the real paradigm need to be: Christian Nazis killing fellow Christians -- regardless of differences in political ideology.
Yes Kirk, I'd seen that some time ago, pretty fascinating. If you follow the thread back, you can actually fined verified quotes (minutes of meetings) where the 6 mill figure was being spoken of as necessary for the creationof .....etc...
Hey Ori,
ping me, but place a . between the two.
So, let me understand this. If Khazaria is the ancestral homeand of the ashkenazi/zio/yids, do they have a right to return there?
And if this was their ancestral homeland (it was), can they take back the land that was stolen from them?
Wondering how this curveball will be handled by you reflexive jew bashers.....
So, let me understand this. You want to give Las Vegas back to Apaches?
The land wasn't stolen from them... They abandoned it... They're gypsies & traveled to Europe to steal from others...
Wrong the Khazaria empire was overthrown by the Russians sometime around the late 10th, early 11th century.
http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-history.html
The Khazars are of Turkish decent not blood related to any of the original 12 tribes of Israel.
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Notes.
1. Many medieval writers attested to the Khazars' Turkic origins including Theophanes, al-Masudi, Rabbi Yehudah ben Barzillai, Martinus Oppaviensis, and the anonymous authors of the Georgian Chronicle and Chinese chronicle T'ang-shu. The Arabic writer al-Masudi in Kitab at-Tanbih wrote: "...the Khazars... are a tribe of the Turks." (cited in Peter Golden, Khazar Studies, pp. 57-58). T'ang-shu reads: "K'o-sa [Khazars]... belong to the stock of the Turks." (cited in Peter Golden, Khazar Studies, p. 58). In his Chronographia, Theophanes wrote: "During his [Byzantine emperor Heraclius] stay there [in Lazica], he invited the eastern Turks, who are called Chazars, to become his allies." (cited in Theophanes, The Chronicle of Theophanes Confessor, translated by Cyril Mango and Roger Scott, 1997, p. 446). The claim that the Khazars were Scythians is completely without merit.
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They converted to Judaism being sandwiched between Byzantine (Christian) and Persia (Muslim) to try to preserve their independence since both equally hated 'barbarians' and would have united to take them out but by converting to Judaism bought them some breathing room.
They had their homeland 1800s - 1920 called Bessarabia (now mostly part of modern Moldovia) but the Russian revolution and subsequent events put a stop to that.
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Ukraine has always been about reestablishing a Khazar homeland in the Ukraine region, these people never wanted to go to Palestine, it took 2 World Wars and the Brits pulling out all the stops getting them to accept conflating religion with nationalism to get them to accept moving into Palestine. The Russians don't want them back either, this is the real underlying root conflict playing out over there.
That a big money Khazar like Soros is personally involved in this is absolutely of no surprise and bigger Khazar money like the Rothschilds (Germany/Frankfurt home of the ECB) behind him.
Precisely...
all jews should be forced to live in the same state (lets call it victimhood with parasitism being its capitol)..........that way they can steal from themselves instead of stealing from humanity.........
Curveball??? You are aware that baseball is not played with a lightweight perforated plastic ball?
If Hasdai's "correspondence" wasn't analogous to Frank Herbert's Dune, we would be having other debates today.
For the curious.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar_Correspondence
I really need to go and re-read Dune again, it has been years since I last read it.
LV Dave, you seem to be mixing of lot of stuff into one stew. How do you co-mingle said 'Ashkis' with Zios? The former is a genetic issue, the latter a political-ideology issue. And I think that many people here are going out of their way to differentiate between the terms Ashkis, Khazars or Zionists, not to have you lump it all under the term "Jew".
Out of academic interest and protocol, and for the sake of intellectual integrity, I think that it's more useful to ask the questions that NOBODY seems to be asking or have an answer for:
1. What happened to the Hebrew diaspora, after the Romans smashed Israel and they scattered to the 4 Winds after AD 69? How many went where? What is their DNA trail?
2. What is the DNA trail of the 'Khazar Jews', or of the Ashkenazim?
3. How do the above DNA trails compare/correlate to the modern day people who claim 'Jewish' ancestry - both within Israel itself, and outside it (Eastern and Western Europe, USA)?
Let's use an example of a famous person... the MILF actress Scarlet Johanssen might claim to be Jewish, but the claim alone does not make it so: She neither has a Hebrew/Jewish name, nor shows any features that vaguely resemble anything other than a Scandinavian/Nordic ancestry. And me using James T Kirk's name and avatar, or at times simulating his TV persona, does not make me Capt. Kirk. "Claim" is one thing, "Proof" is another.
I rather suspect that many who go by the label, culture and practices associated with being 'Jewish' are either very DNA-diluted variants, or are non-Hebrew converts to the faith/culture.
Finally, as for alleged "Claim" to any piece of turf of property (buildings or any other man-made creations), I'd go by a kind of Universal Statute of Limitations for all groups and cultures: If you can't provide a 'Preponderance of Evidence' of Lawful Right of Ownership that goes back further and a TBD Period of years (decades or centuries), then... Tough shit! Anything older than a few centuries of sole or dominant possession, means nothing and belongs in a museum. No matter WHO you are. IOW... at some point, "Possession is 90% of the Law". Else you'd better give your house and land back to the N. Am. Indians (Cherokee, Apachee), to set an example. And lemme guess: I don't see that happening.
Just how far back do you want to go, in respect of just about any parcel or tract of land? By your thinking, you could hand most of western Europe, the Balkans, Greece, Asia Minor and north Africa, plus parts of Arabia, to the people of Rome (may have to find a few people with names like Crassus or Gracchus...). I wonder what fun they'd have with that lot?
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I don't think Soros is going to lose sleep over a myth. No need for him to worry about polonium unless he's pissed off certain collaborators in British intelligence, the Russian mafia, and the Israeli mafia.
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/07/31/theresa-may-raises-an-o...
The Polonium Story is a total fraud.
http://www.ancreport.com/posts/revisiting-litvinenko-what-really-happened/
If Putin wanted to off Litvivenko, there are easier and much less obvious means, such as a mugging gone 'bad', than using a very hard to find, very expensive, easy to trace and difficult to handle element like Plutonium. It is just too elaborate of a plot for anyone who can think and has a basic science education to take seriously. Unfortunately, most americans are so dumbed down that they will believe anything.
Spot on, Litvinenko left a radioctive trace from Israel btw, he was apparently smugling some radioactive stuff from or into Israel and shit happened. The radioactive stuff was found even in Berezovsky apartment.. Then, the British filth services made up a story about Litvinenko being targeted by Russia which was a complete bullshit.
Unfortunately, your story was written by a troll living on a couch on his parent's basement. I thought Putin's PR brigades could pay for adult talent, or least functioning synapses. That piece only actually makes sense as a hasbararat Israel-sympathy setup piece. You might want to check the idenitity of the wizzard behind your curtain or cutting your paychecks.
It's actually hard to to fathom the union of the cognative dissonance required to write those two sentences, the ignorance to be oblivious to the truth of the situation, and the creativity to concoct the related absurdist fantasy.
I am not endorsing all of the content found within the link. I am merely pointing out the obvious, that the supposed Livitenko hit was very clumsy, over elaborate and much too expensive. Bullets and knives are much cheaper and more efficient that trying to poison someone with Plutonium. Really, do you have any idea how difficult it is to produce and handle such an incredibly dangerous radioactive element?
I am not endorsing all of the content found within the link. I am merely pointing out the obvious, that the supposed Livitenko hit was very clumsy, over elaborate and much too expensive. Bullets and knives are much cheaper and more efficient that trying to poison someone with Plutonium. Really, do you have any idea how difficult it is to produce and handle such an incredibly dangerous radioactive element?
There are reasons decision trees are used in analytics-- to stop people who are trying to do their job from going too far down rabbit holes.
The two critical nodes that elude the author (and apparently yourself), are the respective chances that the party responsible for murdering Litvinenko was someone acting in official capacity of the Russian State trying to telegraph its capabilities vs someone not in an official capacity of the Russian State trying to telegraph the capabilities of the Russian State (i.e a setup, or a decision node-- Was the assassination an officially sanctioned act of the Russian State?), from which many more nodes of varying probability present themselves).
"clumsy, elaborate, and expensive" are subjective characterizations, not objective (and somewhat contradictory).
Using the author's methodology it is easy to construct that an even more viable theory to sell to the masses that FSB was trying to setup Berezovsky for the murder of Litvinenko.
The fact is that there dozens of characters involved had access to the requisite capacities, and potential motivations for wanting Litvinenko silenced. The UK/MI5 might have home-field advantage and Silvio Burlesconi might have setup the Mitrokhin Commission to look into ties between the FSB and his adversaries, but once you kick over that hornets' nest it becomes difficult to ignore ties between the FSB and Russian mafia and his political alliesand Italian intelligence services, and how Frau Merkel's government facilitated transport of all those tons of toxic waste... The are simply too many possibilities to construct theories based on non-contradiction of publicly available evidence.
Peeps with polonium ain't clumsy. This was done, the way it was done, to achieve objective(s).
Aside from being incomprehensible, your commentary proves my point: the plot is too complex.
A whore, a drug deal gone bad, a mugging, ad nauseum are far better, easier to execute, and simpler to rationalize as an accident than a PLUTONIUM poisoning. Seriously, do you know anything about handling highly radioactive substances?
Having said this, I value your commentary since it is not the usual lowbrow eructations of minimum wage ukie trolls.
Exactly which isotope of PLUTONIUM (Pu atomic numer 94) decays into 210Po (a very specific isotope of POLONIUM, atomic number 84)?
Let's do some simple math.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_Ashkenazi_Jews
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Prime_Ministers_of_Israel
Every Prime Minister since the inception of Israel has been an Ashkenazi.
http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/top-israeli-scientist-says-ashkenazi-jews-ca...
The Ashkenazis are of Khazarian descent not Palestine and the 12 tribes of Israel.
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An Israeli geneticist challenges the “Zionist” hypothesis that all Jews belong to one race and are intimately related, thus giving them a common ancestor in the Holy Land and a Biblical claim to Palestine.
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The is the real root cause of most the major conflicts in the past and current century.
Your use of the reply button confounds me...
As does your implication that Ashkenazi Jews not being descended of the 12 tribes of Israel proves that they are of Khazarian descent (or are you just copying and pasting Elhaik's jumping of the shark and conflatiion of the Caucasus and Khazaria?)
The joke about Hasdai in my other post actually had a serious point, given the number of truely dumb ass bigots who often post here that seem to believe that because at least six million jews were not gassed in Nazi gas chambers that Holocaust was a hoax, you would think that because Hasdai was writing fiction a thousand years ago, more of them would realize how much of the mythology of the Kingdom of Khazaria is based on an actual hoax.
Then, of course, there are those dumb ass Jews at Forward Magazine who came up with this piece of land grabbing and ego boosting historical fiction.
If we could just get rid of the stupid people and the dishonest people, or at least the stupid and dishonest people... (oh, wait, I've heard that before...)
The genes don't lie, some of the genetic tracing has been done ascertaining just that. Neither does one's salt composition or other unique trace elements/isotopes (regionally specific radioactivity) for tracing terrestrial lineage though science is purposely quiet on this because a lot of lies would be exposed if people knew where they truly came from.
The Khazars are also mentioned in Byzantium historical texts (predating Hasdai). Hasadai is not the only historical reference to the Khazars or Chazars as Theophanes the Confessor wrote in his chronographia. He was born and died almost a full century before Hasadai refers to them in his correspondence.
I haven't even touched on the issue of which book and sect the Khazars most likely followed aka the Karaitism and the Tanakn vs. Rabbinic Judaism and the Talmud.
Some reading for the curious yet again.
http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/Khazars.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaite_Judaism
Of course Khazaria is mentioned mentioned in Byzantine texts, where else would Hasdai have drawn inspiration from?
Arthur Koestler was trying to achieve a political objective when wrote the 13th Tribe, and Shaul Stampfer disproved Koestler's thesis of Ashkenazi Jewery simply being the evolution of an isolated group that converted to Judaism and thus had no ties to the Jews of antiquity.
The Jew-on-Jew nerd match between Elhaik & Ostrer et al. is about disproving the Rhineland Hypothesis, and because of the way the actual Khazarian Hypotheses is worded- it does not address the "isolation & conversion theory" that some conspiracy nutters have derived to promote their mythical "super Jews of Khazar who rule the world and lack all 'Jewish' DNA"
Regarding the original lost tribes...
"The real history of nations and events was rewritten to fit the mandate of the new army church."
http://www.magnificatmealmovement.com/study-points/the-voyage-of-zarah/
A Scot perspective
http://www.biblemysteries.com/library/liafail.htm
Lia Fail - The Stone of Destiny
the danger of being assassinated in this "game" is real, nevertheless, depending, as you wrote, from who you are and who you are pissing off
"If genuine, and based on their meta data, they appear to be just that, these lettes show how Soros is trying to weasel around the Minsk agreements (for instance, how to train Ukrainian soldiers without having a visible NATO presence in Ukraine). The documents link up Nuland with Soros, and clears up who is truly pulling the strings of the US State Department."
as a reminder, it's about the newer Minsk agreements, the so called Minsk_II
as a reminder, it is Germany and France trying to have constructive talks and agreements with Russia and Ukraine, with Belarus in the role of mediator
note the absence of any British, Polish or American diplomats in those talks and agreements
as I write often, watch what they do more then listen to what they say
Pssssst...! Soros... someone should have told your old-cabbage-smelling ass by now that Porky and Yats are scheduled to be Ghaddafi'ed in the near future.
The Western lackeys that took Ukrainian citizenship to get appointed to ministry jobs have been resigning and leaving the country. Whatever puppet regime the State Deprtment set up there has failed and is getting thrown under the bus. It's like rats leaving a sinking ship in Kiev.
The Nazis will probably take over for a few months before the Ukrainians (ALL Ukrainians) launch a counter-coup an slaughter every last one of them as well.
The Ukrainians just want to die the slow, miserable death you have engineered for them and their country. For God's sake stop fucking with them, you evil prick.
Soros bought Ukie bonds, so he is just talking his book. The real situation in the Ukraine is so dire that it beggars belief. 15 billion is nothing when an amount 10 times greater would be required. The Americans stooges overplayed their hand and are now called on their bluff.
Hmmm.., so now Russians aren't just playing chess, but Poker also?
Texas Hold 'Em, or Ukie Hold 'Em? ;-)
p.s. Kirk wouldn't be 'Kirk', if he didn't like your avatar. Say Mr. Chekhov, how far to the Virgo Cluster from here?
About .000000012 parsecs from the US to Guatemala, where I am waiting for you, or a reasonable facsimile thereof <g>.
Everybody stop and back up. These docs fail the smell test. Consider the words "NON-PAPER" in the title. That's a big tell! THESE DOCUMENTS ARE CHEESE.
Snip: "a functioning democracy in Ukraine that manages to reform its economy even in the midst of Russian aggression would turn Putin’s narrative into a lie that no amount of propaganda could cover up. More and more Russians would want to follow Ukraine’s example."
THERE WAS A DEMOCRACY. YOU SPENT FIVE BILLION DOLLARS DESTROYING IT AND INSTALLING YOUR BANDERAN-NAZIST JUNTA.
With BS like this, you know better than to take anything else in the documents at face value. We're presented with a mixture of truth, dis- and mis-information, wishful thinking and outright lies. If this is in truth a dictation of the man's essential thoughts on the matter, then can it be that someone is feeding HIM bad intelligence?
More than this, what seems likely to stand out in the minds of observers is the atrocities being visited upon the civilian populace in East Ukraine, after hundreds of thousands have already left for Russia and humanitarian convoys are fired upon even as thousands of civilians who remain are starving in the basements of bombed-out buildings.
Soros has been commenting on the Ukraine with a clear agenda towards persuading the rest of the world that we need to help or something "really bad" will happen. That tells us that this old prune has some serious bets on the outcome of the war going on there. Now all billionaires play this game (placing big bets and the trying to rig outcomes) and they all operate as individuals (ie would throw each under the bus in a heartbeat) until such time as working together might be financially beneficial. Whether these documents are real or fabricated it certainly clear that Soros has some serious agenda going on behind the scenes and certainly is also one of the major puppetmasters in the who Ukraine conflict from the get go. It's not what they say, it's how loudly they say it that counts.
I agree with Lore. There's too much controlled narrative-speak in them.
They sound smelly.
Maybe 'planted' for CyberBerkut to 'find'? Who knows - it changes nothing.
Exactly. The psychopaths will lie to the end, but lies are still lies. People are sick of being manipulated. The psychopaths need to FUCK OFF.
George Soros himself is one of the very few native speakers of Esperanto. Now that's a globalist!
I had no idea that William Shatner was an evil Jewish banker.
Well, in your mind, Jews can not be evil at all, no matter what they drop on kids, or what they bomb.
Which makes you a racist, Tarabel.
How's that feel, Adolph?
I'm afraid the worst is yet to come, you'll see soon enough when the ships go down.... =(
The Liberty was a spy ship feeding intel to the muzzies.
Sorry if that disrupts your narrative.
No, it just shows how fuckan stupid you are.
"The Liberty was a spy ship feeding intel to the muzzies."
No, the USS Liberty was intended to be sunk by Israel and all crew members killed in order to blame Egypt in a false flag event, but Israel failed to sink the Liberty and kill everyone even after trying for hours according to every survivor including the 8 jewish survivors.
The USS Liberty - Israel Attacked America
Tarabel, William Shatner is cool, righteous dude, a talented actor whose roles are the inspiration on being a real human being (a 'Real Mensch' as some might say), and a fellow-countryman.
-Kirk out.
Good to see Jack Lew is mentioned for the CFR slim he is too.
Is Jack Lew a Jew too? Well, whatever. Be sure not to talk about it and go back to sleep. There is no ethnic cabal bent on destroying you for their own evil ends.
so is the assistant secretary of the treasury
oh and all 3 under secretaries.
head of commerce, former/recent heads of irs, omb, and sec. head of the fed and close to half of the fomc members. head of the national economoic council, council of economic advisors, disporportionate amount of Reps and Senators and staffers, and on and on and on.
But it is "hate" to think diversity should apply when the over-represenation of a small minority ipso facto means othe rminorities [not to mention evil non-Jewish whites] are under-represented.
Here we have this nasty hebrew woman Barbara Lerner Spectre demanding Europe be transformed into a multi-ethnic society, but we have to live with a single ethnicity running the Treasury, Hollywood, banking, lobbying, etc. Its nighmare world for the goyim.
Youtube Barbara Lerner Spectre knowing what's right for you.>
Don't they handle ethnic diversity in Israel by ethnic cleansing the Palis and giving forced sterilizations to Ethiopian Jews?
Don't worry, Goyims have a great future as sacrificial molested children for the cabal's blood baths
What passage is that from in the fake book Elders of Zion?
Forgot sarc
You forgot Yellen & The Vice of the Fed, both Israeli Citizens...
https://youtu.be/WPKymVF57Mg
George is also a name that continuously spells itself. Georgeorgeorgeorgeorge Soros. One Who Soars to Infinity. Or Beelzebub as a previous excellent poster pointed out.
And as a reply to myself, since no one caught it before now. Sorosorosoros also continuously spells itself. What are the odds of that?
Stupid Old Revolting Oligarchic Shithead
He had better hope Putin never gets an operative any where near him.
Oh, that would be fun
And the hate trolls pollute the board again.
Funny how the intelligent commenters leave.
And the self chosenites pollute Ukraine and the rest of the Gentile world, how come they dont leave the goy alone?
He's playing both sides backing China when it comes to currency trading and the US when it comes to war. Just like a banker always does.
Shells and bandages. It's hard to imagine that sub-human parasites like this exist. But there it is;
raw deal in that so many just keep dual shitzenships, and act as agents for israel with their wealth in Christendom...
A sheep no more? http://asheepnomore.net/
Yes COSMOS, we just want to be left the hell alone..
Come on, just cause they control politics, media, finance and government with only being 2% of population is pure coincidence. Most I know are cops, carpenters, firemen, etc. They are patriotic and could care less about Israel or material possessions. They have big hearts and are willing to do anything to help their goyim neighbor.
CH1
Nice that you refer to yourself as a troll, the Hasbara kind I gather!
CH1 has been a troll for 4 years 35 weeks....
"Funny how the intelligent commenters leave."
No, dickface, 'THE INTELLIGENT' commenters get KICKED OFF ZH by you & you Jooze Allen brothers...
His name was Francis Sawyer.
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I sure hope he did not meet a bad end. Remember the "Bank Guy in Brussels" - never heard from him again. Coincidently there was a banker who met a bad end in Brussels.
The only bad thing that happened to Francis is that back when ABC Media did such things, his articulate truthiness got him kicked out and then he came back as FS001 and then got kicked out, etc. Til he lost interest. He probably still reads the site. Assuming he does, All the best to you Francis. Thanks for the truth bombs.
You are half right, he was not FS001 but he does still read regularly.
I happen to have been in contact with Francis in the somewhat recent past, I can assure you he is alive and well.
Does Francis have any other outlets, blogs, etc???
It stinks of gefilte and yarmulkes in here.
Frankly ~ I have ZERO problem if he's a jew (pretending to be one who understands things)...
What BOTHERS me is that he's... APPARENTLY... A 'Jooze Allen' jew (whereby HIS PAID JOB, for 4 years & 35 weeks, is solely to obfuscate the ZH comment boards, & be active in getting people KICKED OFF)...
What's a Jooze Allen? I'm missing something here. I don't get it.
I'm sure that "Jooz Allen" is the same as a "Kremlin troll," except that they crank out comment board propaganda for the Zionist side, amirite dudes?
Perhaps. Hint: the math in your avatar is correct.
"...intelligent commenters leave."
By your own admission that excludes you.
"He" is probably the only one....
and his forename resembles a double ego and gree(d)
Dude is 85 already.
Wonder how much he's collected in social insurance?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-01/doj-allows-nazi-war-criminals-e...
Elders of Zion an urban legend
I'd counter with: Rather than taking sides on a pre-programmed basis, a more useful and intelligent question might be...
"How do you prove the veracity one way or another?"
Since the Answer is "You can't prove it directly", it's more useful to look at the "Preponderance of Evidence", and see how Observations line up with the alleged Theory/Protocols. That would involve using the Scientific Method -- if you're into that sort of stuff, regardless of which side of the Fence you might currently be.
p.s. FWIW I actually took the time for what I just described, and was surprised at the R2 fit of the Trend-line to the Data. DYOH (do your own homework) -- I'm not gonna chew the cud for you.
Why is he still walking around? (I guess the answer is obvious)
Will there ever be tribunals to try the war criminals? Or will it take the second coming to destroy Satan's agents who have destroyed the earth?
Funny how a self-chosenite volunteers the EU money of the Goy to bail out other self-chosenite crooks profiting in Ukraine. Self-chosenite writing to two other self-chosenites telling them about 15 billion in goy money. WHy I'm shocked I tell you, this must be the first time in history such a matter of goy funds has been discussed.
Soros is just getting even; he got royally fucked by the Ukraine after the USSR collapsed.
If that is true, he was only getting what his Karma from his time in Nazi Germany mandated.
He is a leech - a bloodsucking parasite.
"Soros is just getting even; he got royally fucked by the Ukraine after the USSR collapsed."
Well, if they had fucked him properly, we'd have never had to hear one more word from the POS cocksucker. Period!
Makes perfect sense to me.
If I wanted to flush money down the rathole of a probably losing cause that I nevertheless support, I'd prefer to use yours rather than mine.
That's gallows gold right there. Don't see the need for down votes. It is a true statement after all.
A rathole that tarabel's kind created by plundering the goys in that place for the past hundred years.
There is that, but at least he is admitting their modis operandi....
COSMOS, I'm not contradicting or arguing what you say, but pondering things from a different angle (once again)...
I hypothesize that...
1. There are a number* of Organized Crime Groups (OCG) that are now operating on a Global level and have grown in size, sophistication and influence in the Halls of Power. They assimilated to the point that it's virtually impossible to discern where the cronyism or double-agent activities legal crosses into illegal within the Halls of Power.
* Wall St Mafia, Jewish Mafia, Italian Mafia, Russian Mafia, Albanian Mafia, Chinese Tongs, various Islamic and Latin drug cartels...
2. There is a Totem-pole of OCG's, with the Global/Imperialist Zionists aka Ziocons (as opposed to the smaller and different flavors of Zionism) dominating or effectively ruling over the USG.
3. Said Zionists are leveraging Wall St and the USG, to exert dominance or control over most of Western Europe and NATO.
As long as these OCG's exist at all, or dominate world governments, does it really matter which OCG on the Totem-pole we favor or fear? Since they're all bad/evil, i.e. operate contra to a nation's interests, then it might be more useful to think of "How to re-establish a nation's Rule of Law and its Constitution", and to arrest or line up (for the hangman) all of them with equal but "extreme prejudice".
I further propose that NO OCG be given special favor, status or protection -- no matter what religious, social or political Flag of Convenience they happen to fly or wrap themselves in.
Let me get this straight: When Soros wants to get the Fed to do a favor he calls Lew at Treasury? I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
In a sane world that would be treason on Lew's part. Of course Obama rules the crazy world so nevermind.
If Israel didn't have nukes, Soros and company would have sent her the way of Rhodesia a long time ago. South Africa, who stupidly gave up the nuclear program they took in trade for uranium from Israel, the only real friend and ally apartheid South Africa had in the world, is already well down that road.
One more time---Soros worships nothing but money, and is loyal to no living thing in this world or beyond it save himself.
In the world Soros and his ilk have in store for the rest of us, Gentile and Jew alike, there will be no place for Jews even as slaves. On the contrary, they'll be among the first to be purged---their genius and their loyalty to their God and to their nation Israel makes them a particularly acute threat to the rule of "globalist" tyrants. They did for Rhodesia, they're doing for South Africa, and they'll do for Israel first chance they get.
The greater the sin, the greater the power released on sacrifice...and that's just how they roll
idiotic nonsense, but I do believe you believe it in earnest.
Saban and Adelson have al the Jewish Supremacism Soros pretends to lack, anyway.
Pretty much. If Soros is really a Zionist at heart, I have a big black dangle.
Money is at the root of his evil. He'd crash the Israeli shekl if it would net him another cool billion to spend on forwarding a socialist one-world government, just like he did the British pound.
You guys need to get all together in one room and get your story straight.
Five minutes ago, it was evil Nazi Ukraine this and evil Nazi Ukraine that.
Now it's the evil Jew Soros trying to destroy this nation of overly-trusting innocents.
Well, upon reflection, I suppose that you all actually are in the same (virtual) room, but, for heaven's sake, work out one plausible grosse Lugen and stick to it resolutely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKRnEOUxZm0
if ukraine has nazi fascists soros can't be jewish?
huh?
You are a fucking idiot. If we collectively give you the job of Thought Police, you'll get something in writing.
Remember the Liberty.
The trolls getting the Moscow payments to be Puutie's Paid Puppies are stupid Slavs just like Puutie. Whatever nonsense the minders feed them is what they post here.
Two weeks ago it was someone in the CIA who caused Russia to invade a neighboring country. Imagine that - Puutie under CIA control? Last week it was some Jewish controlled Nazi that was running the country. Now the nonsense is posted that George Soros has been pulling the strings all along.
The truth is that Puutie is stupid and has hired these trolls to shift blame onto others for his invasion mistake. It is such a terrible mistake that he has outlawed reporting from Ukraine on the large number of dead and wounded Russian conscripts that are his casualties.
The economy is imploding and lower oil prices to come will get Puutie removed. Incomes down about 15% year over year and retail sales down about 10%. Life was pretty bleak for average Russian before. Stupid policies and strategies from Puutie have changed the economics of the country into a nice even downslope.
When a Russian asks another about how things are going the truthful answer is "Not as good as yesterday, but better than tomorrow."
So far the trolls have responded to the Moscow dog whistle alert with great activety. Five pages of trolling from the Puttie Paid Puppies.
Oh, figures this rat would show up and type a few paragraphs of crap.