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One Of These Two Is Not "Seasonally-Adjusted" Enough

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Once upon a time, the Chicago PMI was the best advance indicator, printing usually some 24 hours in advance, to the ISM's Manufacturing "report on business" seasonally-adjusted survey. Unfortunately, in 2015 this has no longer been the case, with the Chicago manufacturing data tumbling into contraction territory for 3 of the past 4 months (most recently printing near 6 year lows), even as the ISM data has printed consistently telegraphed improving seasonally-adjusted survey results (coming in a time of -0.7% GDP growth).

Which makes one wonder: is the Chicago manufacturing snapshot no longer an accurate indication of what to expect from the US manufacturing sector, or, the real question, is one of these two data sets not not seasonally-adjusted enough. (that's of course rhetorical: everyone knows that it is the worse data that always needs more seasonal adjustments).

One more thing worth noting: the last time the Chicago PMI printed dramatically below its ISM cousin was in late 1999, early 2000, just ahead of an imminent recession.

 

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Mon, 06/01/2015 - 11:10 | 6151758 This is it
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Whatever, they're both bullish.

And it's monkey hammer time.

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 11:22 | 6151790 VinceFostersGhost
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Mulligans 4EVA!

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 11:27 | 6151813 El Oregonian
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Hey! we're going to need tons and tons more of that Rathchild magic paper to dump on the markets in order to cool down the demand for the real stuff.

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 11:16 | 6151770 boattrash
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dupe

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 11:18 | 6151779 BraveSirRobin
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If you just accepted slvery you wouldn't have to worry about any of this anymore.

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 11:23 | 6151796 VinceFostersGhost
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I've heard Agenda 21 isn't all that bad, we should look into it.

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 11:52 | 6151932 KnuckleDragger-X
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With a free trip to "fun camp", what more could you want?

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 11:25 | 6151807 Oldwood
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I just can't understand why so many are resistant to optimism, to the glass half full perspective.

Its not like they are going to try and fuck some folks or anything...

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 11:38 | 6151856 Everybodys All ...
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I don't see how anyone looking at the government data cannot just want to pull their hair all out and say f it all. The deceptions, rigging, lies, etc are just like no other time in our history and it can't be much fun analyzing this data for any useful purpose.

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 13:51 | 6152306 TheReplacement
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Is easy.

*Reads positive data*

"BTAFH!"

*Reads negative data"

"BTFD!"

*Reads neutral data*

"Who else is printing right now?"

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 11:44 | 6151889 Bryan
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All that any 'data' coming out of a government mouthpiece is good for any more is entertainment value.  It's very sad to say that in America; there used to be values and scruples at least at some levels in government.

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 12:34 | 6151955 KnuckleDragger-X
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Learning how to read the data is the tricky part and while the raw data is available, unless you understand statistics, its all Greek. Seasonal adjustment first came into use to 'smooth the curve', but has since become one of the most abused algorithms in existence.....

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 11:50 | 6151919 ArtOfLife
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Why don't you use the same y-axis?

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 11:56 | 6151951 Eyeroller
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Beat me to it.... my thoughts exactly!

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 12:11 | 6152002 Boxed Merlot
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same y-axis?...

 

That would expose the seasonality wouldn't it?  By the way, would this chart be inversed if it occurred south of the equator?

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 13:52 | 6152314 TheReplacement
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Only when you flush the toilet.

Mon, 06/01/2015 - 12:36 | 6152073 drchris
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Just by eye, this looks like the alignment that gives the least distance between the two data series. This is a pretty standard way to complare two series.

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