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The "Better Than Cash Alliance" Has An Orwellian Plan
Submitted by Seth Mason
The "Better Than Cash Alliance" Has An Orwellian Plan
In the fall of 1910, under the pretense of a duck hunting trip, a group of powerful bankers, political figures, and businessmen met at Jekyll Island, GA to plan the creation of a central bank for the United States. The “game” that this elite group of “hunters” brought back to their ivory towers of Lower Manhattan and Capitol Hill was the blueprint for one of the most destructive financial institutions in modern history, the Federal Reserve.
One-hundred years later, another group of powerful bankers, political figures, and businessmen have converged to promote a cashless society, an economic system that would compel every man, woman, and child to utilize proprietary, government-monitored electronic systems to make purchases of any kind. This group, which calls itself the Better Than Cash Alliance, is as dangerous as the group of “outdoor enthusiasts” that met at Jekyll Island that fateful early-20th Century November.
And, just like the Jekyll Island group sold their grand plans based on a lie (they claimed that the Fed would guarantee liquidity in times of financial panics), the Better Than Cash Alliance is selling the idea of a cashless society based on the farce that eliminating cash would stimulate entrepreneurship among the poor. In reality, the elimination of cash would reduce a great many opportunities for entrepreneurship for people of few means.
Gone would be the informal businesses the working poor often operate: roadside produce stands, street performances, handicraft tables, and day labor. Contrary to the assertions of the BTCA, a cash-free society would limit entrepreneurship to those with the means to incorporate a business, afford the proprietary system required to accept payments, and understand the local, state, and federal tax burden the payment system would create.
Although they won’t admit it, the 12 central governments that currently support the BTCA (the U.S. is one of them) do so because a cashless society would enable them to track and tax every purchase made with sovereign currency within their borders. In addition to producing new government revenue streams, the payment systems would increase governments’ social engineering capabilities: They would compel consumers to purchase goods and services from tax-paying, licensed organizations.
Freelance service providers such as barbers, music teachers, and tutors would be forced to either jump through the hoops of incorporation or seek work with licensed businesses (which would inevitably take a cut of their earnings and subject the remainder to payroll taxes). The black market would also be squeezed, escalating the War on Drugs, and subjecting every “sin” and self-defense purchase to government scrutiny. Under the guise of “national security”, of course.
A number of financial institutions, including, but not limited to, Citi, Visa, and MasterCard, support the BTCA, for obvious reasons. In a cash-free world, these institutions would not only make profits on the front end by selling electronic payment devices and charging a fee for every transaction, but they would also make money on the back end by compelling everyone to deposit all of their earnings and cash holdings into their coffers. The BTCA claims that a cashless society would enable the poor to “participate in the financial system”.
In reality, it would compel everyone to patronize banks. And, while a cashless society would be a windfall for the banking industry, it would place a heavy burden on the elderly, who often hold large amounts of cash and are hesitant (and, in some cases, incapable) of making electronic financial transactions. Among the numerous social problems the BTCA’s plan for cashless society would create, incidences of elder abuse would certainly increase.
Inevitably, some people would find a way to circumvent a government-mandated electronic payment system, at least for some purchases. Some would find ways to barter or use non-government-issued crypto or de facto currencies. (Interestingly, some black market circles use liquid Tide laundry detergent as a currency.) For some, the elimination of cash would have little material effect on their lives. But, for most, the BTCA’s agenda is a tremendous threat to their individual and economic liberties.
Like the Jekyll Island duck hunters, the Better Than Cash Alliance is a cabal of powerful people who are pushing a dangerous agenda that would harm average Americans while increasing the elite group’s power over them. Like Georgia mallards, the BTCA’s plans must be shot down.
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The BTC(A) is already reality.
The humaniods knowns as californians will go along with it.
Calling Californians humanoids is a bit of a stretch, isn't it?
LOL yea it is
Fvck me, I can imagine all of SF Bay Area chirping along with this idea thinking they're doing god's work. We're doomed.
Go ahead and ban cash motherfuckers. It will be just another reason that the calls for you to be hunted down and killed are legitimate. You'll push some people past their breaking points with that one too. Do it motherfuckers.
They will do it and no one will care.
And a lovely black market it will be.
How the fuck we sposed to buy drugs???
trade sex?
What wil be put into councilmember envelopes?
For what it worth, the sci-fi part of the Bible predicts this move, that would only allow those with the mark of the beast to buy or sell. I think that chapter dates back around 1800 years.
Which makes the plan quite literally Diabolical, with a capital D for the sufficiently churched, and with added scare quotes for the irreligious and anti-religious, but still Diabolical from any viewpoint.
For local, face to face transactions, use gold, silver, and maybe barter. For long distance transactions, use cryptocurrency. Use Dash for fast, untraceable transactions, or any of a number of others that incorporate an escrow feature.
The tighter they grip it, the more sand falls through their fingers.
They are legalizing Marijuana because they plan to ban cash...
What's next?
Hard Core Drug dispensaries?
Something tells me we are really headed for that new "Judge Dredd" movie world & fast...
https://youtu.be/PifvRiHVSCY
This will never work, nope, won't fly. For one simple reason. How will the criminals in government be able to keep taking their bribes? If suddenly all transactions are electronic and subject to oversight they will suddenly have to become honest politicians, and we all know that will never happen. Just ask Bill and Bitch Clinton. So unless they can find a way to exempt themselves from this madness it will die in congress. Besides even the name of this organization is a lie, everyone knows there is nothing better then cash.
'I'd love you to babysit my children. Now, so that i can pay you, you need to undergo a surgical implant operation'
also, folks will use their mobile phones as wireless point of sale devices - so flea markets will adapt, but: lose or break your mobile phone, you're fucked. How do you buy a replacement?
No, you got it all wrong, they will institute (as in mandate) RFID implants, of this I'm 100% certain, and I know it's real because the Air Force sent up A LOT of RFID satellites a few years back. (They've been planning all of this for quite some time now & are working towards implementing it now, and after the market crash, bend over and kiss your ass goodbye, it will be implant (the mark of the beast) or starve to death.)
The future was already told to us... (They killed the director & his whole family of this movie)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy7FVXERKFE
cashless = owned craddle to death. almost everything and movement is traceable, even the brand of asswipe purchased. elites will have an alternative secure system. oh, but the hackers will be working ovetime...
As a society I think we lost the understanding of the dangers of the banking system, and the protection of being able to remove youself from that system through cash, with the death of those who were adults during the great depression.
Okay, I think some people are struggling with this, so time for a review. All of CONgress is corrupt. That dirt is known by the deep state and kept on file. The same goes for every 'Merican now. However, people are only outed and prosecuted when they step out of line and begin challenging the power structure. Being cashless only means it's easier for them to collect the dirt of CONgress and since the typical CONgressman does what he is told, he has nothing to fear.
BTCA is a shameless name squatting. It has nothing to do with BTC, commonly referred to as bitcoin currency unit. The differences are glaring:
The article states the purpose of going cashless is to "tax every purchase made with sovereign currency within their border". The solution is clear: use currency that has no sovereign state backing and does not care about borders, and actually IS cash, only digital.
Bitcoin.
Fuck Bitcoin (There I said it, so sue me)
I am 100% anti-digital currency / digital banking, just thinking of all of the theft that will happen when they end cash....
(They will completely screw most people holding it & digital banking means GOOD BYE BANKING JOBS...)
Before we praise technology, maybe we should first look at the real impact of technology, before it's too late, and that is good advice...
Anyway, buy all of the gold, silver, bitcoins you want, it will not save you from what they are planning, I assure you.
They will only be able to ban old fashioned paper/cotton/polymer-based physical cash. Digital cash like bitcoin they have no means of controlling. And while you are getting ready for the worst, let me enjoy both: my silver and my bitcoin.
MonetaryApostate:
Can't help but wonder if Jade Helmet is a practice run?
Training for city lock downs, they are going to do a sweep, as in jack everyone's gold & guns, so start hiding stuff NOW.
Prepare, like they are, for the worst, and expect outrage & rioting... (Non-perishable storable food, GET SOME!)
If you think Baltimore was bad....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7miRCLeFSJo
There are many ways the criminals structure their bribes now that are made to look perfectly legal and are byt he letter of the law. However, they are not proper by any means since the criminals write the laws and pass them for themselves. How else could bureaucrats and elected officials exempt themselves from insider trading laws?
I sincerely doubt the bible was supposed to be a predictive text so much as an attempt at an explanation and a memorialization of a myriad of observations. Most of it parrots predecessor scripture of all flavors. Its ability to be predictive is not a compliment to its dozens of authors so much as a testament to the cyclical nature of our existence.
FFS ~ The Gospel of MARK, which is widely acknowledged as the earliest gospel that actually made it in to The New Testament, (by comparison with Matthew, Mark, Luke, & John), was written 70 years after the death of Jesus...
Which means
MARK, (or exactly 'none' of these apostles) knew, or ever met Jesus.
Using a similar timeframe, I might as well sit down and write a historical account on the life of Adolph Hitler (based on all the TRUTHS that I have certainly learned in my lifetime).
ROFL, you got that incredibly wrong.
be my guest & indulge us to explain how
http://www.bethinking.org/is-the-bible-reliable/the-historicity-of-the-n...
So that's it... One internet link...
Great... It's all settled then...
What a fucking dipshit... Here ~ If that's the stupid game you want to play, I'll go you 100x better (you'll have readings all weekend long)
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=mark+the+first+gospel
While you're fucking at it, why don't you teach me all about:
- The IMMACULATE CONCEPTION
- & how that all relates to the 4 brothers of Jesus (James, Joseph, Judas, & Simon), and an unnamed number of sisters... Seems to me like 'The Virgin Mary' spent quite a lot of time on her back...
You used google. Turn in your membership at the front desk. You are no longer allowed on ZH. Tyler post the GTFO vid for this guy.
U don't need to report me to Tyler...
Tyler has already kicked me off of ZH a dozen+ times... Tyler does what he/she wants
Apparently, you've been here 3 years and 28 weeks (which basically means that you don't have anything interesting to say).
IMO ~ 'Staying Alive' (on Zero Hedge) = trying to keep your EQUIFAX CREDIT SCORE above 800... Knock yourself out... Keep fucking that chicken!
I can't understand the truth for you.
So basically, you can't die for MY SINS... Well shucks then, I guess I'm gonna have to tough it out on my own... Don't worry, I won't blame you (because I never really asked for your help in the first place)...
Go 'SAVE' somebody else...
I really luv typing over here in the margin. It feels like we're all squished into a phone booth. GET THE FUCK OFF OF ME!
What the fuck? Who's the fag that just grabbed my balls?
Forget those damn phones, get a PC man!!!
Where is all that angst coming from? You mad bro? I guess I would be too if I made the same stupid mistake you did.
Angst? My humor is often times hard to understand. Bro. Now get the fuck off of me!
I can see you don't understand ZH comment threading. I wasn't responding to you.
But carry on.
I can't understand a thing with these comments all squished up like this! WTF I thought I asked you to get the fuck off of me!
@Dixie ~ You... uninvited... Get into my grill... Tell me I'm wrong... & then afterwards, without even offering an answer, ask 'U MAD BRO'?
FFS ~ either reply to what I posted above or GET THE FUNK OUT MA FACE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs25ML9Ap9I
Quit being so silly about your mistake. Just because the earliest manuscripts aren't concurrent with the life and death of Jesus doesn't make them invalid. It really was a silly assertion by you.
"Just because the earliest manuscripts aren't concurrent with the life and death of Jesus doesn't make them invalid"
~~~
Oh ~ Now I get it!
JUST BECAUSE THE EARLIEST MANUSCRIPTS OF THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT aren't concurrent with the freefall collapse of WTC 1, 2, 7, doesn't make them INVALID...
LOL ~ Come on man? Isn't there a REVIVAL meeting you're late for...
I skipped the line, I paid my dime
I hung my coat, and now it's time
To move to the forefront, take my rounds
Say peace and give a pound have a drink, get down
I'm on the floor, besides the door
The sound is rich, and I ain't poor
I'm looking for Susie or Wendy or Judy
But look at her, but look at her, but look at her, "Who me?"
Yes, you sweetie, although it's hard to see thee
I see your silhouette and what I see has got me needy
I need you for a second of your time
But then I reckon that a second is too short let me try
"You're slammin'", but anyway, I'd like to say
I'm Dres of the Black Sheep givin' you play
Step out in the light, come show off yourself
Yo, I'm sorry, I thought you were someone else
I gotta go, I gotta go, I gotta go, "Don't go"
I gotta go, I gotta go, I gotta go, "Don't go"
I gotta go, I gotta go, I gotta go, "Don't go"
Just don't know, "Why?", hon, I just don't know
I gotta go, I gotta go, I gotta go "Don't go"
I gotta go, I gotta go, I gotta go "Don't go"
I gotta go, I gotta go, I gotta go "Don't go"
See something ain't right, "Why?", it's the Strobelite
Van Damne
Oh man, now you look out
I can not dig it, I can not dig it
No, yo Black, I can not dig it
Listen Hon, I mean aah
It's nice looking at you, I just have to go
My man is right over there "Where you going?"
I have to go "Huh?"
(To his man who doesn't exist)
I'm on my way Black, I'm on my way
"Don't you have a number or something?"
Listen it's ahh, 765-4321
"What area code is that?"
One, nine-hundred
Listen here dear, step to the rear
Find yourself a seat, buy yourself a beer
Eat some pretzels, go play some videos
Thank you for your time honey, but hoe, I gotta go
lol, I accept your concession.
The Roman surname of the son of Mary of Jerusalem. His Hebrew name was John, meaning “Jehovah Has Shown Favor; Jehovah Has Been Gracious.” (Ac 12:12, 25) Mark was a cousin of Barnabas, was his traveling companion and that of other early Christian missionaries, and was inspired to write the Gospel bearing his own name. (Col 4:10) Mark is the John Mark mentioned in the book of Acts and the John of Acts 13:5, 13.
He was evidently an early believer in Christ. His mother’s home was used as a place of worship by the early Christian congregation, which may mean that both she and Mark became Jesus’ followers before Christ’s death. (Ac 12:12) Since Mark alone mentions the scantily clad young man who fled on the night of Jesus’ betrayal, there is reason to believe that Mark himself was that young man. (Mr 14:51, 52) So it seems likely that Mark was present when the holy spirit was poured out on the some 120 disciples of Christ on Pentecost 33 C.E.—Ac 1:13-15; 2:1-4.
After they had carried out the relief ministration in Jerusalem, Barnabas and Saul (Paul) “returned and took along with them John, the one surnamed Mark.” It appears that Mark served as their attendant, perhaps caring for their physical needs while they traveled. (Ac 12:25; 13:5) For some undisclosed reason, when they arrived at Perga in Pamphylia, “John [Mark] withdrew from them and returned to Jerusalem.” (Ac 13:13) When Paul later set out on his second missionary journey, though Barnabas was determined to take Mark along, Paul “did not think it proper to be taking this one along with them, seeing that he had departed from them from Pamphylia and had not gone with them to the work.” “A sharp burst of anger” ensued, and they separated; Barnabas took Mark with him to Cyprus and Paul took Silas with him through Syria and Cilicia.—Ac 15:36-41.
Some time thereafter, however, whatever breach there was between Paul, Barnabas, and Mark was evidently healed, for Mark was with Paul in Rome and joined him in sending greetings to the Colossian Christians (c. 60-61 C.E.). Paul spoke favorably of him, saying: “Aristarchus my fellow captive sends you his greetings, and so does Mark the cousin of Barnabas, (concerning whom you received commands to welcome him if ever he comes to you).” (Col 4:10) Mark is also among those mentioned by Paul as sending greetings to Philemon when the apostle wrote to him from Rome (also c. 60-61 C.E.). (Phm 23, 24) Later (c. 65 C.E.), when Paul was again a prisoner in Rome, he specifically asked Timothy to “take Mark and bring him with you, for he is useful to me for ministering.”—2Ti 4:11.
John Mark also associated with Peter in Babylon, for he is mentioned as sending greetings in the apostle’s first letter (written c. 62-64 C.E.). Peter calls him “Mark my son,” perhaps indicating the strong bond of Christian affection that existed between them. (1Pe 5:13; compare 1Jo 2:1, 7.) Thus, Mark, once the cause of difficulty, gained the commendation and trust of prominent servants of God and enjoyed the yet greater privilege of being inspired to write an account of Jesus’ ministry
MARK, GOOD NEWS ACCORDING To
The divinely inspired record of the ministry of Jesus Christ written by John Mark. This account of “the good news about Jesus Christ” begins with the work of Christ’s forerunner, John the Baptizer, and concludes with a report of the circumstances surrounding Jesus’ resurrection. Hence, it covers the time from the spring of 29 to the spring of 33 C.E.—Mr 1:1.
This Gospel, the shortest of all four, is a rapid-moving and descriptive record of the ministry of Jesus Christ as the miracle-working Son of God. Frequent is the use of “immediately” or “at once.” (Mr 1:10, 12, 18, 21, 29) The account is almost evenly divided between conversation and action.
Source of Information. Ancient tradition indicates that Peter provided the basic information for Mark’s Gospel, and this would agree with the fact that Mark was associated with Peter in Babylon. (1Pe 5:13) According to Origen, Mark composed his Gospel “in accordance with Peter’s instructions.” (The Ecclesiastical History, Eusebius, VI, XXV, 3-7) In his work, “Against Marcion” (IV, V), Tertullian says that the Gospel of Mark “may be affirmed to be Peter’s, whose interpreter Mark was.” (The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. III, p. 350) Eusebius gives the statement of “John the presbyter” as quoted by Papias (c. 140 C.E.): “And the Presbyter used to say this, ‘Mark became Peter’s interpreter and wrote accurately all that he remembered, not, indeed, in order, of the things said or done by the Lord. . . . Mark did nothing wrong in thus writing down single points as he remembered them. For to one thing he gave attention, to leave out nothing of what he had heard and to make no false statements in them.’”—The Ecclesiastical History, III, XXXIX, 12-16.
John Mark evidently also had other sources of information. Since Jesus’ early disciples met in the home of his mother (Ac 12:12), Mark must have been acquainted with persons other than Peter who had known Jesus Christ well, individuals who had seen him doing his work and had heard him preach and teach. Probably being the “certain young man” whom those arresting Christ tried to seize but who “got away naked,” Mark himself was apparently not totally without personal contact with Jesus.—Mr 14:51, 52.
Evidently Written With Non-Jews in Mind. While the good news according to Mark would interest and benefit Jewish readers, apparently it was not written specifically for them. It seems to have been composed primarily for non-Jewish readers, especially the Romans. Its conciseness and abrupt character have been viewed as particularly suitable for the intellect of Roman readers. Latin terms are sometimes transliterated into Greek, as when the Greek word prai·to?ri·on is used for the Latin term praetorium. (Mr 15:16, Int) Also, the Greek word ken·ty·ri?on is employed for the Latin word centurio, an officer in command of a hundred soldiers.—Mr 15:39, Int.
The account contains explanations that would not have been necessary for Jewish readers. It indicates that the Jordan was a river and shows that the temple could be seen from the Mount of Olives. (Mr 1:5; 13:3) It mentions that the Pharisees practiced “fasting” and that the Sadducees “say there is no resurrection.” (2:18; 12:18) This Gospel also explains that the Passover victim was sacrificed on “the first day of unfermented cakes” and that “Preparation” was “the day before the sabbath.”—14:12; 15:42.
Whereas it would not normally have been necessary to explain Semitic terms for Jewish readers in general, Mark’s Gospel provides many of such explanations. Interpretations are given for “Boanerges” (“Sons of Thunder”), “Tal?i·tha cu?mi” (“Maiden, I say to you, Get up!”), “corban” (“a gift dedicated to God”), and “E?li, E?li, la?ma sa·bach·tha?ni?” (“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).—Mr 3:17; 5:41; 7:11; 15:34.
Time and Place of Composition. According to ancient tradition, Mark’s Gospel was first made public in Rome, this being the testimony of such early writers as Clement, Eusebius, and Jerome. Mark was in Rome during Paul’s first imprisonment there. (Col 4:10; Phm 1, 23, 24) Thereafter he was with Peter in Babylon. (1Pe 5:13) Then, during Paul’s second imprisonment in Rome, Paul asked that Timothy come soon and bring Mark with him. (2Ti 4:11) Probably Mark did then return to Rome. Since no mention is made of Jerusalem’s destruction in fulfillment of Jesus’ prophecy, Mark must have compiled his account before that event in 70 C.E. His presence in Rome at least once, and likely twice, during the years 60-65 C.E. suggests that Mark may have completed his Gospel there sometime during those years.
Some Unique Features of Mark’s Account. Though largely covering material similar to that of Matthew and Luke, Mark also provides supplementary details. Some of these illuminate how Jesus felt about certain things. He was ‘grieved at the insensibility of the hearts’ of persons who objected to his healing a man’s withered hand on the Sabbath. (Mr 3:5) When Jesus received a poor reception from people in his home territory, “he wondered at their lack of faith.” (6:6) And he “felt love” for the rich young man who asked about the requirements for gaining everlasting life.—10:21.
Also unique with Mark’s account are certain points regarding the end of Jesus’ earthly life. He reports that at Jesus’ trial the false witnesses were not in agreement. (Mr 14:59) The passerby impressed into service to carry Jesus’ torture stake was Simon of Cyrene, “the father of Alexander and Rufus.” (15:21) And Mark relates that Pilate made sure that Jesus was dead before granting permission for Joseph of Arimathea to take the body for burial.—15:43-45.
One of the four illustrations of Jesus found in Mark’s Gospel is unique. (Mr 4:26-29) The account mentions at least 19 miracles performed by Jesus Christ. Two of these (the healing of a deaf man who also had a speech impediment and the cure of a certain blind man) are contained only in Mark’s Gospel.—Mr 7:31-37; 8:22-26.
References to the Hebrew Scriptures. Although Mark appears to have written primarily for the Romans, this record does contain references to and quotations from the Hebrew Scriptures. The work of John the Baptizer is shown to have been a fulfillment of Isaiah 40:3 and Malachi 3:1. (Mr 1:2-4) Also to be found in the account are instances of Jesus’ applying, quoting from, or alluding to the Hebrew Scriptures. These include: Giving God mere lip service (Mr 7:6, 7; Isa 29:13); honoring parents (Mr 7:10; Ex 20:12; 21:17); the creation of man and woman and the institution of marriage (Mr 10:6-9; Ge 1:27; 2:24); various commandments (Mr 10:19; Ex 20:12-16; Le 19:13); Jesus’ comments regarding the temple (Mr 11:17; Isa 56:7; Jer 7:11); his statement about being rejected (Mr 12:10, 11; Ps 118:22, 23); Jehovah’s words to Moses at the burning thornbush (Mr 12:26; Ex 3:2, 6); the two great commandments on love (Mr 12:29-31; De 6:4, 5; Le 19:18); the prophetic words of Jehovah to David’s Lord on the subjugation of foes (Mr 12:36; Ps 110:1); the scattering of Jesus’ disciples (Mr 14:27; Zec 13:7); Jesus’ statement on being forsaken by God (Mr 15:34; Ps 22:1); his instructions to a healed leper (Mr 1:44; Le 14:10, 11); and his prophetic statement regarding the disgusting thing causing desolation (Mr 13:14; Da 9:27).
The references to the Hebrew Scriptures in Mark’s account amply illustrate that Jesus Christ had confidence in them and used those Scriptures in his ministry. The Gospel also provides a basis for becoming better acquainted with the Son of man, who “came, not to be ministered to, but to minister and to give his soul a ransom in exchange for many.”—Mr 10:45.
Long and Short Conclusions. Some have thought that Mark 16:8, which ends with the words “and they told nobody anything, for they were in fear,” is too abrupt to have been the original ending of this Gospel. However, that need not be concluded in view of Mark’s general style. Also, the fourth-century scholars Jerome and Eusebius agree that the authentic record closes with the words “for they were in fear.”—Jerome, letter 120, question 3, as published in Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Vienna and Leipzig, 1912, Vol. LV, p. 481; Eusebius, “Ad Marinum,” I, as published in Patrologia Graeca, Paris, 1857, Vol. XXII, col. 937.
There are a number of manuscripts and versions that add a long or a short conclusion after these words. The long conclusion (consisting of 12 verses) is found in the Alexandrine Manuscript, the Codex Ephraemi Syri rescriptus, and the Bezae Codices. It also appears in the Latin Vulgate, the Curetonian Syriac, and the Syriac Peshitta. But it is omitted in the Sinaitic Manuscript, the Vatican Manuscript No. 1209, the Sinaitic Syriac codex, and the Armenian Version. Certain late manuscripts and versions contain the short conclusion. The Codex Regius of the eighth century C.E. has both conclusions, giving the shorter conclusion first. It prefixes a note to each conclusion, saying that these passages are current in some quarters, though it evidently recognized neither of them as authoritative.
In commenting on the long and short conclusions of the Gospel of Mark, Bible translator Edgar J. Goodspeed noted: “The Short Conclusion connects much better with Mark 16:8 than does the Long, but neither can be considered an original part of the Gospel of Mark.”—The Goodspeed Parallel New Testament, 1944, p. 127.
So WHEN was the fucking thing written cornflakes?
Which is the EXACT POINT of my original comment... & which ANYONE who devote themselves to THE BIBLE should understand if they want to pretend to thump people over their heads with...
FFS ~ It's well acknowledged IN THE BIBLE that Jesus had 4 brothers & an uncertain number of sisters...
Yet all 'CHRISTIANS' seem to adhere to is the story of a Virgin Mary, mangers, 3 kings, & a bunch of horseshit... & yet you and this other dude want to 'school' me on the GOSPELS?
-What about the 'GOSPELS' of Thomas, Mary Magdelene, & others, which, conveniently, based on POLITICS, never even made it into the fucking BIBLE???
Shove your fucking Bibles (which, after the Council of Nicea, & other 'convenient' modifications by European Monarchs who stood opposed to the Church of Rome) up your asses (or, come up with something better)...
FRANCIS_SAWYER,
(AKA THIRST MUTILATOR..CAUTIONARY TALE, ETC, Etc, Etc- stop the drama queen shenanigans)
You need schooling.
Please engage me on another thread in the future.
I see you now, for what you are,
I will gladly meet with with you,
In Baltimore,
Or anywhere else.
You have a lot right,
But even more wrong.
YOU are TOTALLY MISLED.
No ~
My role is NOT a BIBLE THUMPER MAGNET...
Here ~ I'll PROVE IT...
I've NEVER been KICKED OFF OF ZERO HEDGE (nor has anyone else), arguing BIBLE idiosyncracies...
You and I could easily sit down and chow.
It is you who has a problem with this.
I live in the area, Francis.
You are losing ground, Francis.
Get in touch with me, we have much to discuss.
I have ZERO to discuss... With you...
Are you interested in 'DISCUSSION'?... Here ~ start with this:
Ask Tyler Durden why:
Potemkin Village Idiot, francis_sawyer, Hy Brasilian, Richard Parker, Vespasian, GET.OFF.MY.LAWN., Papillion, Ow My Balls, Thirst Mutilator, AIIB, Achilles Heel all got kicked off of Zero Hedge...
If you're even 'REMOTELY' interested in that answer, then, PERHAPS, we'd have something to discuss...
Yes you do.
You are hurt.
Only one savior.
YOU HAVE SO MIUCH TO DISCUSS.
Francis.
PS- It's free.
PPS- You're so obvious.
You are truly an idiot.
I would gladly meet you in PA.
Go get yourself a written note from TYLER DURDEN... He's the only JESUS you're gonna know in this timeframe... & from what I've experienced thus far, you're chances aren't that good...
You name the place, the date and the time.
See you there.
PS- I truly mean this, "Francis."
Did your mother have any children who survived?(cornflakes)
Is it proper to address prayers to Mary as intercessor?
Jesus Christ said: “You should pray like this: ‘Our Father in heaven . . . ’” He also said: “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one can come to the Father except through me. . . . If you ask for anything in my name, I will do it.”—Matt. 6:9; John 14:6, 14, JB; italics added.
Will prayers to the Father through Jesus Christ be received with as much understanding and compassion as they would if they were directed through someone who has shared the experiences of womankind? Concerning the Father, the Bible tells us: “As tenderly as a father treats his children, so Yahweh treats those who fear him; he knows what we are made of, he remembers we are dust.” He is “a God of tenderness and compassion, slow to anger, rich in kindness and faithfulness.” (Ps. 103:13, 14; Ex. 34:6, JB) And of Christ it is written: “It is not as if we had a high priest who was incapable of feeling our weaknesses with us; but we have one who has been tempted in every way that we are, though he is without sin. Let us be confident, then, in approaching the throne of grace, that we shall have mercy from him and find grace when we are in need of help.”—Heb. 4:15, 16, JB.
Is the veneration of images of Mary in harmony with Bible Christianity?
The practice was definitely encouraged by Vatican II (1962-1965). “This most holy Synod . . . admonishes all the sons of the Church that the cult, especially the liturgical cult, of the Blessed Virgin, be generously fostered. It charges that practices and exercises of devotion toward her be treasured as recommended by the teaching authority of the Church in the course of centuries, and that those decrees issued in earlier times regarding the veneration of images of Christ, the Blessed Virgin, and the saints, be religiously observed.”—The Documents of Vatican II, pp. 94, 95.
For the Bible’s answer, see “Images,” pages 183-187.
Was Mary specially honored in the first-century Christian congregation?
The apostle Peter makes no mention of her at all in his inspired writings. The apostle Paul did not use her name in his inspired letters but spoke of her only as “a woman.”—Gal. 4:4.
What example did Jesus himself set in referring to his mother?
John 2:3, 4, JB: “When they ran out of wine [at a wedding feast in Cana], since the wine provided for the wedding was all finished, the mother of Jesus said to him, ‘They have no wine’. Jesus said, ‘Woman, why turn to me [“what is that to me and to thee,” Dy]? My hour has not come yet.’” (When Jesus was a child he subjected himself to his mother and his adoptive father. But now that he was grown he kindly but firmly rejected Mary’s direction. She humbly accepted the correction.)
Luke 11:27, 28, JB: “Now as he [Jesus] was speaking, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said, ‘Happy the womb that bore you and the breasts you sucked!’ But he replied, ‘Still happier those who hear the word of God and keep it!’” (This would certainly have been a fine opportunity for Jesus to pay special honor to his mother if that had been appropriate. He did not do so.)
What are the historical origins of the adoration of Mary?
Says Catholic priest Andrew Greeley: “Mary is one of the most powerful religious symbols in the history of the Western world . . . The Mary symbol links Christianity directly to the ancient religions of mother goddesses.”—The Making of the Popes 1978 (U.S.A., 1979), p. 227.
Of interest is the location where the teaching that Mary is the Mother of God was confirmed. “The Council of Ephesus assembled in the basilica of the Theotokos in 431. There, if anywhere, in the city so notorious for its devotion to Artemis, or Diana as the Romans called her, where her image was said to have fallen from heaven, under the shadow of the great temple dedicated to the Magna Mater since 330 B.C. and containing, according to tradition, a temporary residence of Mary, the title ‘God-bearer’ hardly could fail to be upheld.”—The Cult of the Mother-Goddess (New York, 1959), E. O.
Nevertheless plenty of wisdom to be found in these "FALSE?" teachings. Simply--the greatest ascended master in our "orbit", supreme in virtue, acquired by adherence to law, decided to humble himself and "spend" completely the currency of life in order to redeem those whom by penalty of broken law were untouchable, castaways, beyond the light presence, inheritors of outer darkness. So, like the overhead parable spoken to the devout but too rich young man, "Master, what may I do that I might inherit eternal life and dwell with thee in the afterwards?". Reply? Distribute all that thou hast to the poor (in spirit also) and come, follow Me. Seek ever for the infinite and that which persists everlasting, and forsake the finite and the temporary entertaining pleasures of this short dwelling space.
Why the crucifixion? Because the condescension of the ascended had to sacrifice all in distributing to the poor of this world. Why despised of the elders of Jerusalem? Because, in their order and interpretation, this "great" one should have been rich, powerful, handsome--the embodiment of god on earth. Instead, and despite a pure lineage, he appeared destitute, born in a cattle stall, under suspicion of being a bastard, to a kingdom under dominion of Rome. And what his message? Bow to your masters. Put on sackcloth and ashes for your subjection to the wicked is a remark and judgement on your soul. Turn the other cheek. Bear the hard burdens. Undertake to build heaven on earth by the small, subtle, and weak things and despise those who love this world and its enticements.
And ultimately, the chief cornerstone and central pin of the entire forward progression of man had to be founded upon this being and doctrine. Why was it cast aside? Why did the most knowledgeable group on the planet reject its messiah? Because the doctrine was in contravention of that which is expressly in play in this generation.
Set your heart upon riches. Trust in the strength on man and his institutions. Establish a system of usury. Maintain justice and high ethics only to the extent that it shall spur those you mean to plunder to endeavour harder, that you might obtain unjustly that much more. Lie and carefully, craft a culture which holds up your many vain idols for worship. Corrupt the money. Distribute the nation's wealth among yourselves, steal lightly and then heavily from everyman using the unseen but exhausting dilution of government and treasury. Keep the common man in constant fear. Keep him dull to greater capacities by catering to all the lower impulses, etc. etc.
This was the system they built. It was the system that they wished to uphold. They did not wish to abandon it and follow the teachings of this great master. "Better that this one man should perish than that a nation pass away altogether".
How could they miss that his birthright and heritage was to be the KING? How could they not know that he was an infant survivor of Herod's terrible purge? How could they not remember his teaching the most erudite High Priests at the temple steps at a very young age? How could they not remember Zacharias being struck dumb when not complying in naming his son John, Jesus' cousin? How could they not connect John and his message with the Master? How could they ignore the many healings and miracles and doctrine entirely consistent with all their revealed works? How could they not marvel at his teachings, his purity, his conformance with all their laws? They understood, and despised and sought his death for it.
Maybe Caiaphas and the Sanhedrin (like many powerful today) knew full well the importance and the person. Maybe they knew the cornerstone upon which all future might be built could bring heaven to earth. And maybe they chose instead another selfish course, that of the golden calf, or the systems of Egypt, the sacrifices of Molech, which had served them and their elite segment up and until that time. And maybe what is being done now among the children of men is just the same as has been done in many nations, times, and worlds before, where a bowl of pottage serves an immediate appetite but is traded for a birthright of all future creative inflows. It is a study on how to turn a bountiful verdant delivering land into a barren place.
Controlling a currency is only that. Controlling all the futuritive creative inflows of all the subjected beings under its dominion. It is a gospel of death and in terrible contravention to the doctrine of life.
Money is but a component which facilitates one through life, but it has become like a whitened sepulchre, beautiful to behold but inside full of corruption and filthiness. And so this world, its dominions, and its princes and masters. It has ripened in iniquity and must be hewn down and cast into the fire.
Amen, brother.
You covered so much ground!
God bless you!
Only the believers understand the truth, the rest will openly reject it, and what did they say when I told them they are going to ban cash & mandate RFID implants over 2 years ago?
They laughed at me, but who's laughing now? They plan far worse than this, bank on that, and I for one cannot wait much longer, as their evil has grown to even higher highs, surely God will judge them soon...
(They are MORE THAN WORTHY!!!)
It is as God had promised already, they hate whites to the core now, as God has turned their hearts against us because of the greed & evil of the elite whites, and I must say I cannot blame them, our past is a crying shame, to say the least!!! (How many nations, how much murder, and theft? WHOOOOOSH!!!)
What you mean to say, is that our earliest found texts date back to 70 years after Jesus' death.
Since they didn't have typewriters back then, I'm going to give you a timeline.
It took one year to put it together (plus the stuff that occurred during their lifetimes during this time, like Acts, and Paul's letters), then it was mass produced and distributed, which took another ten years.
Then it was translated into a half-dozen languages, which took another ten years.
Then the books were worn out, so scribes had to copy, by hand, the myriad texts of every language, continent, etc. I'm just going to say that this process went on indefinitely after this point, because it was a well-established text after 70 FRICKIN' YEARS. You can still recall Animal Farm and 1984, and those were written half as long ago.
Imagine people who would MEMORIZE, word for word, their bible, like that cult from Fahrenheit 451, and you begin to understand that at this point, changing the bible in any radical way (aside from the Gnostic added-on stuff, that equates to fanfiction), is next to impossible.
So, when they say we discovered texts 70 years after the death of Christ, they mean we have 3rd edition printings of the original god-damn book.
The predictive part of the Bible is the last bit, dubbed Revelations in King James, Apocalypse in the original Greek. As I recall it was written by a single historically existing person well after the the events related in Mathew, Mark, Luke and John concerning future events only. Entirely forward looking. It describes the regime of the anti christ preventing buying or selling by anyone who does not have the mark of the beast on their body. Not a believer, but this is predicted in the most important literature of western civilisation, in quite the iconic chapter thereof. Really.
Another thing the Bible predicts is that there will be those who continue to doubt and disbelieve, and scoff at the truth, even as it is revealed right before their eyes....
TBT, which will include ALL commerce, that includes property taxes etc... (think property seizures now).
3 questions:
1) who noticed the paid/designed troll train above destroying this thread?
2) are you really shocked? enslavement has alaways been the goal of every selfish regime.
3) how many of you bitches would actually hit the streets?
I'm afraid there's going to be a whole lot of bitches hitting the street... (Willing or not...) :/
In G. Edward Griffin’s warning in his “pessimistic scenario of the future,” the creature from Jekyll Island – the Fed – uses a cashless society as one of the forces to drive society into global totalitarianism. Wrote Griffin in 1994:
“Electronic transfers gradually replace cash and checking accounts. This permits UN agencies to monitor the financial activities of every person. A machine-readable ID card is used for that purpose. If an individual is red flagged by any government agency, the card does not clear, and he is cut off from all economic transactions and travel.
“It is the ultimate control.”
Who now can believe that that scenario is not possible?
You don't need that gold anymore because you have your ID card. You better sell it before .gov takes it.
The only real asset any of us have, is our mind, at least they can't take that unless of course you subscribe to their psychobabble BS or take their pscyho-ruining drugs...
Anyway, great comment, and yes, they will take it all...
Revelation 13:17 so that no one can *buy* or *sell* unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. Revelation 13:17
I was going to say the politicians would risk cutting off their own river of dirty money by going along with this, but I temporarily forgot that the rules are only for their subjects. Silly me!
yup, 2 sets of rules, just like it is now. future has a clear image of the grim reaper coming to a village near you and I. Anarchy sounds pretty damn good if this comes to fuition...
politicians will now come equipped with debit/credit machines
politicians will now come equipped with debit/credit machines
You don't pay the Khazar establishment with transaction fees when you use cash.
Plus they don't know exactly what you're doing because cash is anonymous.
That bothers the hell out of the insane megalomaniac control freak satanic motherfuckers who even want to regulate the size of your sodas.
Silver, Gold, and Bitcoin...
EXACTLY. This is how they will create the illussion that private holders of Gold & Silver MUST BE criminals.
Snake Plissken doesn't give a fuck about your war, your President, or what illusions they may or may not try to create.
Snake Plissken says "Fine, fuck you too."
They have been arming the shit out of the police & every federal agency for a while now... Nobody took that heart, they aren't going to take this warning to heart, and when the doors close on everyone, well maybe then they'll understand...
Albeit far too late, of course...
It's a good thing that the BTCA is not in charge of things.
Finally! Currency can be privatized. Sure, it means the creation of a massive black market, but that's what gov't does best - create black markets.
with silver & gold
Edit;(same thought at the same time 16:32)
In answer to the question: "How the fuck are we to buy drugs?"
I respond: "Drugs will just be the new currency."
Bitcoin plays into this no cash model, it seems to me. I keep hearing about what a revolution it is, but all of these international banking parasites seem to be adopting it for their own ends. The cryptocurrency movement is being suckered into promoting their own destruction through the no cash (no tangibility) society.
Electronic currencies explained back in 1996;
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsa...
Bitcoin FTW
Yes, bullish for: bullets, bottles of whiskey, and cartons of cigarrettes.
Explains why I still can't buy 22LR for a decent price. Damn you cashless society people.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Cashless society, and get rid of the illegal drug trade?!
Those two cannot be unhitched.
That's why i laugh at any mention of a cashless society unless they legalize all drugs...
There isnt anything a man wont barter/trade for some combination of guns, broads, and whiskey. That's why in the New Wild West, I'm gonna be sellin' all 3. As an upstanding, card-carrying NWO prole, I'll even do bidness with politicians.
I guess the mexican drug cartels will be accepting debit and visa and congressmen will pay for their hookers with master card.
So wait a second, does this mean VISA/MC gets a cut of EVERYTHING. You cannot make that shit up can you?
Outlaw cash and I WILL convert everything to "honest" money. Gold and silver.
And of course, the traditional standby currency, Liquid Tide.
Dat's rays cyst.
"Outlaw cash and I WILL convert everything to "honest" money. Gold and silver."
I might suggesst that if Cash is Banned, the odds favor that PM will also be. I very much doubt that the PM "loophole" will be permitted since it would defeat the entire purpose of BTCA.
Yup, they will. Remember when gas was $1.00 a gallon? Credit card costs at a gas station are probably about 2.5% on average. So, at a dollar, the C-store cost was about 2.5 cents per gallon. When gas hit $4.00 per gallon, the fees QUADRUPLED as well!! So now it cost the C-store owner 10 cents per gallon. It didn't cost Master/Visa anything more to process those charges, they just made a fortune!! And credit card fees have NEVER come down, even though total credit card processing volume has exploded in the last 10-15 years.
Back in the day, card issuers started bitching and moaning about discounts for cash over credit. The pig men banksters paid their winged monkey politicians and made this practice illegal in some places (restraint of trade?) How many places still have this law on the books?
I stiill see discounts for cash signs in TX,LA,OK,KS but I don't know if the signs are old. I know it is still observed when I have asked for it so the practice still exists, just not sure if they are stickin it to the man.
Discounts for cash still going strong in AL, and U.P. Michigan...some (successful) places up there don't even take cards.
The money-changers of Jesus's day are rolling in their graves with fits of jealous rage!
No one cares already. Look at all the people who don't have a thin dime in their pockets, all they have is plastic in their wallets. Good luck when the power goes down, I am not selling you anything. At least today, if the power goes out, you can still conduct business. Consumers are too stupid to realize these fees all get piled on top of the cost of business. They ultimately pay for the "convenience".
People in the hundred plus billion dollar a year drug trade would care.
I don't feel safe carrying cash and I want to feel safe. I want to feel safe El Vaquero!
Buy a gun.
Yup, and don't get me started on those morons who use robot checkout at the grocery store and aren't even getting a 2% discount for their trouble. The most compliant sheep in the world have got to be right here in the U.S.
Better than cash?
Only one thing.
Moar cash!
Some of them don't carry plastic cards either. They have an iphone for that.
Some of them don't carry plastic cards either. They have an iphone for that.
I just look at that as paying not to talk to someone who clearly does not want to talk to me.
pods
Or even worse, does want to talk to you.
A number of times, I've gone to the manager and told him the nature, size, and intended use of my purchases are none of the cashier's business. The nosiness stops quickly.
I mean, doesn't *everyone* pick up ten boxes of sodium hypochlorite at least once a week? Bitch do you ask why folks buy tampons too? Same principle. Now mind ya business.
Some of these idiot sheeple here at one city supermarket in Australia are so sucked into these robot checkouts they form long lines to get their stuff through while the couple of checkouts with real people serving them had almost no waiting time. When I saw that, I truly realised we as a society are fucked!!
I am retarded at the self-serve checkouts but I am cool with that. If I am not in a rush, I turn a negative into a positive experience. Where I shop, there is usually a hot broad supervizing us losers. I do not mind asking for help.
The most annoying fucking thing at Wal Mart is certain registers only taking cards. Or ONLY cash, because the fucking thing is broken. And do they bother to place a sign on a given register, indicating these sort-of important facts someone might like to know, without having to give up their place in line to find out? Well of course not. That would be too obvious.
Not to mention the God forsaken piece of shit pausing every other moment with "Unexpected item in bagging area" or some other error which requires the tender-drone to be flagged down----not always an easy task, with them always seeming to be involved in an engaging conversation with a friend, or focused on bandaging some other poor victi-, er, custome-.... eh, consumer's fucked up situation----so they can waddle over to enter their code to bypass the piece of shit.
I thought these fucking things were supposed to SAVE me time...?
Lots of dicks gonna get sucked for a loaf (or slice) of bread. Cheese costs extra.
They will do it and no one will care.
Until the power goes out.
There will be a black market in 24 hours.
"They will do it and no one will care."
Right up until the power goes out.
I'm salivating El Vaq as long as the party moves to DC. I have dibs on Feinstein and Hitlery.
Miffed;-)
"Hell hath no fury."
;)
ELV for the win and yes this is a red line for some folks..
The ZWO war on cash is part of the ZWO war on freedom.
You can create your own currency or use GOLD and SILVER.
chipping along with this idea.
Fixed it for you.
Trumpet warnings: http://www.infowars.com/what-is-this-strange-sound-from-the-sky/
God doesn't go to San Francisco. That's why the place is overflowing with queers and liberals and other pedophiles.
As a cardholding resident of San Francisco, I'll have a pile of queers queer you if you ever set foot here. Must be rough being so stoopid.
They will have to come up with a way for Congress to pay for Hookers and Blow with the Occasional blackmail payoff or it will never pass.
Cash is king when it comes to VICE.
Why do you think there is a push to legalize it and tax it?
But, will there be a AAA or similar discount?
Don't forget the AARP discount!
you understand that there is no push to legalize Hookers, or cocaine in any state of the US, only MJ ???
You do understand that there is a push to count it in GDP, and one they start counting it they start taxing it?
doubled
Obviously, we'll just start seeing Congressmen carrying around jugs of Tide.
There will be a federal license to possess cash that expires for the plebs, but not them. Nobody gets their license until they acknowledge the expiration on a new tax form. After that possession of cash without a license is a crime. Everything has to be in the matrix.
To say the driver behind this is helping the poor speaks to how evil these monsters are.
And why would anybody accept their cash if a license is needed to exchange it for goods and services?
It would be very risky for sure. Whoever "TPTB" are have the metrics to show them they are being tuned out. People don't believe the lies anymore. Even though this will be universally opposed they'll make it happen anyway.
They're dropping the facade that public sentiment matters, for example I don't think anybody is in favor of this secret TPP, but look what happened. The political class all support it and they're just gonna decide to go all draconian. The velvet glove is no longer bothered with.
If that's the case, they're playing with fire right next to the gas pump. People put up with enormous amounts of shit, and they keep on putting up with it and putting up with even more, until they one day snap, and then it's game on. Meanwhile, hardly anybody sees the snap coming. They don't believe that it can happen until it does, then they're shocked. They see all of the shit that people put up with in the past, and figure that nothing will get them to act, until one day, they do act. We're to the point now where all this country needs is a catalyst, and we've got our very own hot war in our back yards. The number of people that a cashless society would exclude is probably high enough that you're probably talking a catalyst right there.
That is the plan. They are changing the rules of the game in many areas. If police brutality does not put you over the edge, then maybe the trans movement will be your line in the sand. Or immigranst taking your jobe. Or financial repression? This boiling pot boiling over is the plan. Then they get to implement the real goal. BALKANIZATION...............
"We're to the point now where all this country needs is a catalyst"
Nickel, platinum, or even plain iron, impregnated in a zeolite matrix. There's your catalyst. The supercritical Fischer-Tropsch reaction vessel needs to be built for high pressure, with a good high pressure pump to constantly circulate your hexane media through the vessel and catalyst, while maintaining it for a period of time at high pressure and temperature. (One simple design would be some sort of built-in-earth clay vessel with thick cast-in-place iron supports.)
Then you need a synthesis gas ("syngas"), a mixture of hydrogen gas, CO2, and carbon monoxide , which is easily made from "wood gas" or "producer gas" by purifiying and filtering it. (Look up: "water scrubbing" and "activated carbon.") This gas is pumped into the reaction vessel and bubbled through the apparatus.....and is catalytically converted into larger and larger hydrocarbons. Synthetic oil.
All your energy input comes from dead and decaying biomatter. Pieces of wood. Leaves. Cow shit. Weeds. American flags. Telephone books. The Constitution. Your enemies. Whatever is dead and decaying.
To research this subject more, type "<keyword> pdf" into google. For example, "Fischer-Tropsch supercritical hexane media platinum zeolite catalyst pdf". All of this information can be clicked on, downloaded en masse even, and stored for later use.....by yourself, or friends.
What you're looking at is basically the state of the art in petroleum synthesis. This type of reactor can be built and operated at home, by one really smart individual, or some reasonably bright ones if it were broken down into "howto" instruction form by said genius.
Maybe there will be Tide vouchers.
Just use some screwball nightclub to take the payments. Go to Colorado and buy legal blow. Even hookers might be legal going under the disguise of personal assistant or something.
Dr. Engali: "Calling Californians humanoids is a bit of a stretch, isn't it?"
Well, in fairness, he did not say "Human", but humanOIDS -- as in "human-like". ;-)
Hey wait a minute bub........ Ok, I resemble that, *sigh*
Miffed;-)
As an "Ex-Californinan" (having worked there for 2 years), I sympathise.
We all know that you can find great, good, okay, bad and evil people everywhere you go, under under any flag, color or creed. B'sides, how can one not like a lady with the initials 'MM'? ;-)