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The "Better Than Cash Alliance" Has An Orwellian Plan

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Submitted by Seth Mason

The "Better Than Cash Alliance" Has An Orwellian Plan

In the fall of 1910, under the pretense of a duck hunting trip, a group of powerful bankers, political figures, and businessmen met at Jekyll Island, GA to plan the creation of a central bank for the United States. The “game” that this elite group of “hunters” brought back to their ivory towers of Lower Manhattan and Capitol Hill was the blueprint for one of the most destructive financial institutions in modern history, the Federal Reserve.

One-hundred years later, another group of powerful bankers, political figures, and businessmen have converged to promote a cashless society, an economic system that would compel every man, woman, and child to utilize proprietary, government-monitored electronic systems to make purchases of any kind. This group, which calls itself the Better Than Cash Alliance, is as dangerous as the group of “outdoor enthusiasts” that met at Jekyll Island that fateful early-20th Century November.

And, just like the Jekyll Island group sold their grand plans based on a lie (they claimed that the Fed would guarantee liquidity in times of financial panics), the Better Than Cash Alliance is selling the idea of a cashless society based on the farce that eliminating cash would stimulate entrepreneurship among the poor. In reality, the elimination of cash would reduce a great many opportunities for entrepreneurship for people of few means.

Gone would be the informal businesses the working poor often operate: roadside produce stands, street performances, handicraft tables, and day labor. Contrary to the assertions of the BTCA, a cash-free society would limit entrepreneurship to those with the means to incorporate a business, afford the proprietary system required to accept payments, and understand the local, state, and federal tax burden the payment system would create.

Although they won’t admit it, the 12 central governments that currently support the BTCA (the U.S. is one of them) do so because a cashless society would enable them to track and tax every purchase made with sovereign currency within their borders. In addition to producing new government revenue streams, the payment systems would increase governments’ social engineering capabilities: They would compel consumers to purchase goods and services from tax-paying, licensed organizations.

Freelance service providers such as barbers, music teachers, and tutors would be forced to either jump through the hoops of incorporation or seek work with licensed businesses (which would inevitably take a cut of their earnings and subject the remainder to payroll taxes). The black market would also be squeezed, escalating the War on Drugs, and subjecting every “sin” and self-defense purchase to government scrutiny. Under the guise of “national security”, of course.

A number of financial institutions, including, but not limited to, Citi, Visa, and MasterCard, support the BTCA, for obvious reasons. In a cash-free world, these institutions would not only make profits on the front end by selling electronic payment devices and charging a fee for every transaction, but they would also make money on the back end by compelling everyone to deposit all of their earnings and cash holdings into their coffers. The BTCA claims that a cashless society would enable the poor to “participate in the financial system”.

In reality, it would compel everyone to patronize banks. And, while a cashless society would be a windfall for the banking industry, it would place a heavy burden on the elderly, who often hold large amounts of cash and are hesitant (and, in some cases, incapable) of making electronic financial transactions. Among the numerous social problems the BTCA’s plan for cashless society would create, incidences of elder abuse would certainly increase.

Inevitably, some people would find a way to circumvent a government-mandated electronic payment system, at least for some purchases. Some would find ways to barter or use non-government-issued crypto or de facto currencies. (Interestingly, some black market circles use liquid Tide laundry detergent as a currency.) For some, the elimination of cash would have little material effect on their lives. But, for most, the BTCA’s agenda is a tremendous threat to their individual and economic liberties.

Like the Jekyll Island duck hunters, the Better Than Cash Alliance is a cabal of powerful people who are pushing a dangerous agenda that would harm average Americans while increasing the elite group’s power over them. Like Georgia mallards, the BTCA’s plans must be shot down.

 

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Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:59 | 6164539 Miffed Microbio...
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That can be construed in so many ways... I'll accept that! ;-)

Truly, it is hard to be a Californian today. Thirty years ago I didn't mind the label but now I just cringe at the nasty looks I get as I drive to another state.

We just seem to have an inordinate plethora of idiots here now. But to be honest, many have come from other states. This makes for a mighty large flock of idiots roosting here. You can't imagine the stench from the mess they create.

Miffed;-)

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:43 | 6164685 Real Estate Geek
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Y otros países, señora.

;-)

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 21:02 | 6165128 AGuy
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"As an "Ex-Californinan" (having worked there for 2 years), I sympathise."

Strange. I thought you worked in space, but born in Iowa?

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:02 | 6164359 Kirk2NCC1701
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deleted duplicate.  how did that happen?

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:53 | 6164337 upWising
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Autonomous Sovereign California.

Read About It.  Sign The Petitions.

www.SecondCaliforniaRepublic.com

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:09 | 6164562 knukles
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All fine by me if Sacramento is isolated and SF, LA and Silicon Valley become tax beasts for the rest of the Republic with none of them having voting rights.
Otherwise, nothing changes.
And methinks the Feds would object as we're a tax beast for the rest of America, in any case. 

Ah yes, the Democratic People's Republic of California.  Led by Kim-Il Songabout Jelly Blown

PS  Y'all have any idea how much water the Central Valley'd have for the productive growth of crops if the Sacramento River had not Billions of Gallons flushed to the Pacific to save the now non existent whatever fish and the LA basin quit getting any water from the Central Valley?  Why, the price of crops would fall bazoombie for the rest of America!

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:47 | 6164502 Majestic12
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"Calling Californians humanoids"

Why is it that all you snotty little guys with little dicks constantly bash our wealthiest most diverse state?

CA has the most diverse source of minerals, flora and fauna...and God forbid, people.

In economics, just like in genetics, diversity is good to reduce "risk".

But keep clamoring for an all-white, little-dick state full of Reactionary Nazi's who circle jerk and group-think all day long!

Your parents must be proud, since they probably fought in wars to keep freedom alive...so you can bash it with a stupid comment.

So very inspiring...just like the uberrich wants you to be...keep backstabbing other Americans while the "ruling class" laughs all the way to the bank and back.

Good doggies.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 20:49 | 6165085 Dr. Engali
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What is it with you Californians and your infatuation with dick's?

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 20:55 | 6165107 cornflakesdisease
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The only problem with Kalifornia is that they can't print their own money.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 23:05 | 6165459 Cornfedbloodstool
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"fought in wars to keep freedom alive". LMAO!

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 02:26 | 6165752 Government need...
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'Diversity is good'.  For fuck's sake, is there a ROM-chip in your brain that loops that little trope every 10 seconds?  If by diversity you mean a feral pack of niggers, than no, diversity sucks.  Diversity surely would NOT be reducing risk, unless it was risk of decreasing entropy.

Freedom bashing.  You mean like trying to shame someone else for disagreeing with your ROM-chip 'group-think' view?

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:45 | 6164057 agstacks
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"Just think of, like, all the trees we could save, and stuff."

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:48 | 6164082 ILLILLILLI
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If you haven't already done so, you shoud read "The Day The Dollar Died" by JohnGaltFla (a regular poster here). Great story line, and I think he nails it on how it will go down, calamitious collapse notwithstanding.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:09 | 6164392 q99x2
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"The humaniods knowns as californians will go along with it."

Which impies that some Californians will not go along with it.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 23:37 | 6165542 STP
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Fuck you, you California Bashing Bitch!  You think, people like myself, Tall Tom and others, are 'going to go along with with it'?  I hate my State Legislature, I despise Jerry Brown and would be HAPPY to see my Senators croak.  So FUCK YOU, bitch, and quit painting us all to with the same brush.  It be happy to leave, but family and 25 years at a Fortune 100 (with pay to match), doesn't make it easy to just up and leave.  Get it? Good, then STFU, already.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:46 | 6164061 bilbert
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Well Fuck ME sideways - it's a real deal!  http://betterthancash.org/

 

Looking at the folks staring at their O-Phones on the landing page, I'm guessing phones will be the key to transferring "money" to each other.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:49 | 6164090 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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Yea but I still have a dumbphone, no one will ever force me to get a "smart" phone - never frreeeeeeedodoooommmmm!!

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:01 | 6164150 Dig Deeper1
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Commerce will not die from the imposition of this command and control plan.  It thrived long before FRNs and 1s and 0s.

Barter will be the new currency and the result will be better than passing around dirty little pieces of paper.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:05 | 6164339 Kirk2NCC1701
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Bunga Bunga: "The BTC(A) is already reality."

Yeah, MFer, it's called the GOLD ALLIANCE. Better than fiat cash. Aka PMAM (Precious Metals As Money). Bitchez.

p.s.

As I posted yesterday, there is NO VALID reason why the States cannot and should not reclaim their Constitutional Right to "Issue coin".

If so, they could/should... Issue coin, made of AG and AU, issued in: $1, $2, $5, $10, $50, $100, $1,000, $10,000. The $50-10,000 coins should be encased in clear PMMA/Acrylic, with complex logos on the inner surfaces, to aid with Authentication. The $1-20 coins would be made of AG.

That way, the Local police and State Troopers could actually put their DOD/MIC armored vehicles to good use, and escort intra-state money transfers.

The Fed can keep making Pennies, Nickels, Dimes and Quarters -- seeing that it cost more to make a Penny than it's worth. [LOL]

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:31 | 6164457 Korg
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It's really gonna be ironic when I have to use rubles for the black market

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:38 | 6164668 ZH Snob
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this is why a robust barter system is needed NOW, before they get ahead of us.  they'll force us to pay mortgages and rent, utilities with their cashless system, but for all those other things like garage sales and drugs we will simply trade assets because

 

WE ARE ALL OUTLAWS IN THE EYES OF AMERICA!

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:59 | 6164757 MsCreant
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Pay off your mortgage. I know it does not solve the whole problem, but it is one step out of the matrix. All debt paid off is one step out of the matrix.

Debt free also takes a lot off your mind. A spot in your soul can relax. Took me a while, but I am there.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 19:21 | 6164828 Adahy
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It's OK here.  Vegetables and eggs are always currency.  The rest....well, if you can't sustain off of it...

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 20:30 | 6165031 dow2000
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How will CIA fund 3rd world arms running? Hillary, any thoughts?

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 21:13 | 6165176 Buck Johnson
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Also with no cash, you can't go anyplace that you want without permission?  Meaning if your trying to leave the country your "money" is in the bank and since you can't take it out as cash and try to move it overseas then they will know and may stop you and/or may tax your cash before you move.  Also all of us will have cards so essentially the govt. will be able to ration inflation depending on what is being purchased.

 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 23:44 | 6165551 OLD YELLER
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Another 'conspiracy theory' becomrs fact.

Àaron Russo http://m.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel

 

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 08:20 | 6166093 snodgrass
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Aaron Russo interview. Want a digital currency. Everyone chipped. The ultimate in control because every purchase you make will be known to them and if they don't like you, they turn off your chip and you can't work, buy food, travel, etc. and they can take out of your bank account anything they want.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQ

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:29 | 6163993 NoDebt
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Oh, you mean there is LITERALLY a group called the Better Than Cash Alliance.

Who knew?  Welp, we're even more fucked than I thought we were.  Something I seem to say almost daily.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:35 | 6164015 Dr. Engali
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You only say it daily?

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:44 | 6164052 centerline
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I suddenly feel better and worse at the same time.  Hmmm...

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:41 | 6164030 knukles
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Ohandgettaholdathis.
Note one of the logos displayed was for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.  Why you ask, is that relevant?
Well, because the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is one of the organizations as an NGO, big on polio and sundry other inoculations on a global basis to stop the spread of whatever for the benefit of mankind, right?
Well, just happens that on a number of occasions that vaccines sponsored by a Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation affiliated origination, say for polio or smallpox, have included "BY ACCIDENT", additional "IMPURITIES" that sterilized the women to whom they were given.
No gee wiz, figure that?
So, when ever I see the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation involved, I immediately think NWO and Satan, as in Evil, when reasonably considered in any sane reference as to good and evil, right and wrong, etc.
Now, if you all doubt what I state here about "TAINTED" vaccines, do a web search.  I'd suggest using some engine other than Google (Wonder why?  Been sanitized for your benefit :))
Also, you can find on YouTube (or at least could until recently if it's now gone) a Ted Talk with Bill Gates his very self, talking about vaccines and sterilization (en mass) of people.
Not to mention the whole vaccination meme, as well, anyhow

Just so ya'know.

So this cashless thing ain't good.  

For more than superficial reasons.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:50 | 6164097 Skateboarder
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These mvthafvckers are so evil that Joe Average places such happenings in the realm of fictions and movies, and even those fictions don't compare in capturing the brutal reality that is ours.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:54 | 6164119 BandGap
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But wait, there's more.

As a youth I was very involved with the Catholic Church, including helping out with a group of "charismatics". These were mostly women, saying the rosary, drinking coffee and talking. Paying attention one day, the discussion went to the signs of the end times (as a 14 year okld kid I just listened).  Two of these were "the mark of the beast", where the government could brand you with a unique identifier, and the extinction of cash. This was ~1975, and they all talked about how (according to Fatima and a woman prophet in Necedah, WI) this would happen within 50 years.

It isn't hard to argue that many world leaders, including our own, are paving the war for a massive war.

Funny, huh? 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:20 | 6164212 centerline
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Scary stuff.  Always makes my hair stand on end hearing about people who were on that different wavelength so many years ago and saw this coming.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:48 | 6164708 AmericanFUPAcabra
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Heard a few figures tossed around about the B&M Gates foundation giving out free vaccines in India and Pakistan for all sorts of virus' including polio. At the time there were about 40 cases of polio WORLD WIDE. Now in these two countries something like 30,000+ children have developed 'polio like sypmtoms in recent years. Strange coincidence. Good thing ol' Reagan made it illegal to file suit against the producers of vaccines.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:49 | 6164088 lehmen_sisters
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"Dude seriously, what the fuck" seems to slip out every 45 seconds or so, on a slow day , you are doin alright.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:30 | 6163999 mastersnark
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"Pffft...the bible is a bunch of made up stories. 'Can't buy or sell without government approval'... How's that even possible you flat-earth crazyman?!?"

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:32 | 6164007 NoDebt
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Wait.  What?

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:52 | 6164107 Herd Redirectio...
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"Mark of the beast" reference.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:45 | 6164309 cherry picker
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I offered a dealer in Palm Springs cash for a car a few years back.  He said OK but I had to fill out a credit app.

"What For?" I asked  "You didn't hear me, I said cash."

He couldn't do it.

 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:50 | 6164327 Utah_Get_Me_2
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Ever tried to take out a mortgage? They want to know about the source of deposits in any bank acct over $1000 dollars that aren't direct deposit..

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:31 | 6164000 joseJimenez
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I Have something better that cash, good martial art training and lots of ammo.  Go  fuck yourselves

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:36 | 6164018 cherry picker
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Wait till .gov finds out the sheep have been watching and will put a smile on their mugs, pretend to comply and .gov will discover people are vanishing from their digital system in droves.

All we need is a few business owners and small governments like cities and maybe states to go along with the wayward sheep.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:56 | 6164129 centerline
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Is what will happen organically anyhow.  Economies will get real local, and as fast as the electronic net closes in.  I wager smaller, more homogenous communities will be faster to develop "alternative" economies.

 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:36 | 6164019 SERReal1
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Amen

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:39 | 6164024 Tucson Tom
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Both 40 year old children have those skills. Grand children next.Makes me want to cry, thinking what those beautiful kids will see.Might have to view it through a scope!

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:08 | 6164391 Kirk2NCC1701
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What's your Martial Art and G&A get you at the store these days?  Besides a prison sentence?

I prefer coins of value. Be they Fed coins, or PM coins.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:33 | 6164011 Dr. Engali
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Seems to me that there is an ancient prophesy out there about people not being able to buy or sell without a number, but that's just an old fairy tale.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:36 | 6164017 NoVa
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Revelation 13:17 - 

16And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:39 | 6164023 cherry picker
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I have been one to knock the bible more than once, but lately those prophecies and what is happening today are getting eerily close.

As I mentioned in a previous post, no one can prove God or a Divine entity does not exist.

If some of these prophecies are accurate, we better go find a place to hide as it is going to get a little unpeasant out there.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:43 | 6164034 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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Take Jesus as your savior today - there is no hiding from what is coming.....

 

The Sixth Seal: Terror
15Then the kings of the earth and the great men and the commanders and the rich and the strong and every slave and free man hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains; 16and they said to the mountains and to the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; 17for the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?"

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:47 | 6164073 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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Tell me what is happening right at this very moment?? Eleites are going into the mountains: 

 

http://www.defenseone.com/management/2015/04/pentagon-moves-more-communi...

 

I have a friend who's from Arkansas and is planning on living in the caves there. He works in the food industry - he says the supply is running short

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:52 | 6164104 ILLILLILLI
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The Jew laughs at your Jesus...son of a whore.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:58 | 6164140 Herd Redirectio...
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The problem is, someone, probably 100 or more years ago, read that part of Revelations and said "Thats a great idea, not being able to conduct commerce without the 'mark'!"

"My mark!"  Muhahahahaha!

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:03 | 6164162 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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The Devil

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:00 | 6164149 Mike Honcho
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No need to be harsh.  It is a recycled theme, gods born of virgins happened in the East before Christianity adopted it.  But this one is true.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:35 | 6164660 ILLILLILLI
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Just reporting the "facts"...as others see them.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Judaism/talmud.htm

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:05 | 6164170 Temporalist
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Well if the Jews are waiting for a messiah it might as well be me right?  Send me your money via my Nigerian prince broker and you shall all find salvation!

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 01:57 | 6165733 ILLILLILLI
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I do believe that you are going to have to get in line behind the Bibi-ster....

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:00 | 6164541 WillyGroper
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We might actually see who laughs last.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:20 | 6164599 Calmyourself
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Well at least we can trust .gov  to fiddle the climate data and erase the 15 year NO WARMING PROOF, where are you Flak come on back.. 

http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/04/noaa-fiddles-with-climate-data-to-eras...

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:24 | 6164238 Ms No
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Actually many of the elite will be at the "Cremation of Care" ceremony at the Bohemian Grove California this July where they will 'mock' the slaughter and burning of an infant infront of a fucking owl!  This has been videotaped twice over the last two decades.  The group has included Rockefellers, royalty, politicians, high finance, etc (also on video) and is quite real.

It appears Zionists are quite satanic, shouldn't be a huge surprise.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:52 | 6164106 Uchtdorf
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Those who have fled (as in vacated the premises) to the Savior for refuge. He is a firm foundation.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:58 | 6164139 Mike Honcho
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God says he comes like a thief in the night.  But you know its soon, sacreligious sir.

Kings, caves, slaves, gee wonder when that was written?  Eastern philosophy precedes this, same lessons and intentions.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:55 | 6164525 PRO.223
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The Bible talkes about you. Jesus comes as a thief only those in darkness, like yourself. 1 Thessalonians 5:2-5 "For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night." This is what you are quoting and wrongly applying it to everyone, but keep reading. 3 " While they are saying, “Peace and safety!” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. 4 "But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief; 5 for you are all sons of light and sons of day."

Those who are of the light are watching and know the time is getting close, they won't be surprised. Oh yeah, another verse about you comes to mind;

Proverbs 22:3 "The prudent sees the evil and hides himself,but the naive go on, and are punished for it."

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:47 | 6164075 Mike Honcho
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As you know in debates, the burden of proof lies with the person making the claim.  In this scenario, the burden proving that god exists.  And if so, has been a simple observer to chaos and destruction because someone ate an apple.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:59 | 6164143 cherry picker
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I don't think it has anything to do with an apple.

Just like Karma.  Many people believe it.  Why?

Who or what is watching?

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 19:51 | 6164892 Wild tree
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You sir, are quite ignorant of what the bible actually says. The tradition of men make void the word of God. Eve was seduced by Satan, so was Adam. How do you think Cain came about? He killed Able, his fraternal twin, not identical, because of jealousy. Cain was a byproduct of Satan, Abel of Adam and Eve, taught by Satan.

Satan's greatest triumph in this world is making people believe he is not real. I testify that he is, and the bible backs it up in the new Testament, where Jesus calls the Sadducees/Pharisees of the day, sons of Cain.

Read the Word to find out the depth of your ignorance, and maybe, just maybe, come into repentance.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:08 | 6164177 Temporalist
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If the bible had prophesied the US, the dollar, cars, the internet, flight, space exploration, digital clocks, radios, microwaves...anything other than human's violence and self-destructive nature I'd be impressed. 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:15 | 6164200 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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It does: http://www.creationists.org/revelation-chapter-11-verses-7-11.html

There are a few important clues that lead us to conclude that these verses accurately predicted modern communications, including satellite television transmissions.

1.  Their dead bodies were left in the street for 3 1/2 days. They were not shipped around to several "nations" with a stop in each nation for viewing them. These verses say that "nations" shall see the bodies where they lay in the street. Since satellite communications and televisions were in rather short supply in about 90 AD (when Revelation was written), how could the author of Revelation possibly have known that the technology to see something on the other side of the world, in real time, would one day actually exist as it does today? This seems to be an accurate prediction of modern satellite communications and television broadcasts. 2.  It says that "they that dwell upon the earth" shall rejoice over them because they tormented those who "dwelt on the earth". This verse appears to be saying that the entire world will rejoice over their deaths. But the technology to spread news across the entire world in just 3 1/2 days didn't even exist until this century.
Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:42 | 6164040 p00k1e
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Jews are planning the cashless society.  LOL  

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 20:30 | 6164694 e_goldstein
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If it is successful, it will be their second biggest conspiracy.

The biggest of course being Christmas.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:49 | 6164092 Dead Canary
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And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat upon it is called Schiff:  And a bow of silver; and a crown of gold was given unto him. And he thus spake: By these signs I shall go forth, conquering and to conquer.

~ Book of Revaluations

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:05 | 6164169 Karl von Bahnhof
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This will quickly lead to exchange of little yellow and silberish thingy between people as a say thak you for little help or chicken or pack of apples...

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:17 | 6164182 Dr. Engali
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People need to have those little yellowish and silberish thingies to exchange in the first place, which they don't, or haven't you noticed all of the buy gold here places? People sold their gold to survive, well to survive and buy iCrap.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:40 | 6164286 Karl von Bahnhof
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Too sad.

Then they have to work hard.
Or
No help, no chicken, no apples.

So it will be.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:56 | 6164343 jmaloy5365
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Right hand is a biometric hand scan and the forehead is a retinal scan. Both being used today.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:46 | 6164499 css1971
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This stuff already happened. 666 is Nero. The first roman emperor to debase the roman currency.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 21:04 | 6165131 cornflakesdisease
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The Scriptures allude to marks made on humans and refer to these in a figurative sense. In Ezekiel’s vision a man with a secretary’s inkhorn was commissioned to go through Jerusalem and to ‘put a mark [Heb., taw] on those who were sighing and groaning over all the detestable things that were being done in the midst of it.’ This action on their part showed that they were righteous persons, servants belonging to Jehovah, and therefore worthy of preservation at the time for the execution of Jehovah’s judgment. The figurative mark on their forehead testified to that fact.—Eze 9; compare Eze 9:4, ftn; 2Pe 2:6-8.

On the other hand, in John’s vision persons receiving the mark (or, engraving) of the wild beast on their forehead or on their hand were in line for destruction. The mark on the forehead publicly identified them as worshipers of the wild beast and therefore as slaves to it. They were thus shown to be opposers of God, for the wild beast received its authority from the dragon, Satan the Devil. The mark on the hand would logically signify active support of the wild beast, the hand being used to accomplish work.—Re 13:1, 2, 16-18; 14:9, 10; 16:1, 2; 20:4.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:04 | 6164314 Jorgen
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"Seems to me that there is an ancient prophesy out there about people not being able to buy or sell without a number, but that's just an old fairy tale."

A prophesy or a plan. 

Hebrew Bible: Plagiarized Mythology and Defaced Monotheism

“A lot of the stories in the Old Testament are in fact plagiarized material, particularly from the rich mythical heritage of the Sumerians – the inventors of writing. The story of Noah and the flood story, the creation of man out of clay, Cain and Abel, the gardens of Eden, the tree of knowledge, creation of Eve from Adams rib, and numerous other myths, like the throwing of Moses after he was born in the river, are all but stories found recorded on Sumerian clay tablets dating 5000 years back in time”

Here are George Carlin's remarks on organized religions.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:01 | 6164545 Rusty Shorts
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In the Garden of Eden, the Serpent told Eve the truth, and God lied!!

 

Phil breaks it down for us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQOL9dXTL8c

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:37 | 6164020 MajorFall
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Even in 'Merika" this type of scenario would create a revolt

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:47 | 6164072 ironmace
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doubt it

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:51 | 6164101 10mm
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Revolt, rightttt.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:37 | 6164287 Utah_Get_Me_2
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Really? All Merikan's care about is a former gold medal decathlete having tits sown to his chests and calling himself Caitlyn. They think the TPP is a brand of toilet paper. And you think Merikans are gonna revolt because they will have to only use a credit card to buy things? That's a good one MajorFall. Next you'll tell us Merikan's will revolt because they will be forced to watch NFL on Sundays.. 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:49 | 6164325 Karl von Bahnhof
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I just find out what this kaitlyn thing is and hurried to bathroom to vomit.

Geez murica youre finished...

... And one named leibowitz made a pictures into magazine called vanity fair!

GOD! I hope i am sleeping and this is bad dream!!!

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:53 | 6164333 Utah_Get_Me_2
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It's all too real Karl.. all.. too. real. Fall of the Roman Empire Redux. This will not be pretty. Deagle.com is probably right about 250 million Americans dying by 2025.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:50 | 6164328 BandGap
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E-B-T

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:39 | 6164028 daveO
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Black markets are, ultimately, the salvation. They always have been. Lower taxes to a reasonable amount, say less than 10% total, while eliminating 'sin' laws and black markets starve to death. 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:43 | 6164045 agstacks
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"the ultimate goal is to get everybody in this world chipped with an RFID chip. And have all money be on those chips and if anyone wants to protest what we do or violate what we want, we just turn off their chip."

 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:51 | 6164093 oddjob
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No need for implanting the chips, just make a device that people will gladly carry in their hands all day, and happily sleep beside. This plan will work even better if people will pay for the their own monitoring costs themselves.

 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:55 | 6164127 ILLILLILLI
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The iChip™...

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:18 | 6164416 TeethVillage88s
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But if you carry it in your hands all day, it can be snatched like a purse whenever you get out of transportation or get into transportation.

Plus if it is password protected or retina scanned you can have Flash Kidnapping & Strong Arm Robbery & Car Jacking.

Things will bet exciting since crooks will know you have access to accounts.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:26 | 6164614 oddjob
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Hey buddy wanna buy an iphone?, the eyeball comes with it.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:45 | 6164497 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Yeah it is called a cellphone.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:24 | 6164606 oddjob
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smarty pants.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:43 | 6164048 Billy Sol Estes
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But they are changing lives though, even says it on their website.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:45 | 6164060 Dr. Engali
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Well they aren't lying. Thanks to them we become a bit poorer with each passing day.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:39 | 6164291 Utah_Get_Me_2
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each passing minute.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:45 | 6164056 semperfi
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Also could be a step to making gold & silver illegal again, because anyone using gold & silver to transact outside of the cashless system would then be by definition a criminal.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:00 | 6164144 centerline
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Except for the "exchange stations" where you can happily insert your PMs and have credits immediately made available to your account!  Joy.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:39 | 6164293 Jorgen
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Except for the "exchange stations" where you can happily insert your PMs and have credits immediately made available to your account!  Joy."

...after 80-90% tax. Joy, indeed.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:45 | 6164059 scubapro
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so we'd be stuck for a while with whatever paper is currently in circulation; as well as silver and gold pieces.  

V and MA are amazing in that they get, what, .155 of every transaction?   imagine getting .15% of a $17T economy.  70% is consumer, so about 25.5 billion in revenues.    

flat tax, and banks regulated like utilities, no interest and a token fee to have an account.  THAT should be the future.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:46 | 6164066 unionbroker
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i dont use cash myself but it is my choice

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:46 | 6164068 raywolf
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something like : "no man, woman or child will be able to buy or sell without the number of the beast ?"

 

sounds like a plan, now where do we get the sacrifical goat from ?

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:54 | 6164117 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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That's old Testement stuff - when Jesus came to earth the old Jewish laws became obsolete 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:55 | 6164340 BandGap
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Uh, no.

Jesus was raised as a Jew. And he didn't abolish anything as far as law. He clarified and added to them.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:00 | 6164351 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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Yes he did. Of course he did claify.  All the slaughter and sacrifices of old were abolished.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:47 | 6164076 stant
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There's a reason America's not in the bible

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:54 | 6164120 Lady Jessica
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That's what the Book of Mormon is for.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 19:19 | 6164825 Dickweed Wang
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Don't you mean the Book of Moron?

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:24 | 6164239 Mike Honcho
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Because it was written pre-1492.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:32 | 6164262 Dr. Engali
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America came into existence in1492? Now there's a cute little fairy tale story for ya.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:08 | 6164572 Rusty Shorts
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Yup, Christopher Columbus "DISCOVERED" America - hahahahaaaa jeeeesh can't make this shit up.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:55 | 6164734 Charming Anarchist
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It gets funnier!  Some people say he proved the earth was round!  Can you believe it? 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:47 | 6164078 Bill of Rights
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Ok Ill say it...." Gold Bitches "

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:36 | 6164269 Jorgen
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"Ok Ill say it...." Gold Bitches"

In case of all electronic system and say physical gold made illegal for private citizens, how one can sell it? On the other hand, I wonder what is going to happen when EMP (either human made or solar) knocks down power grids in the West?

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:07 | 6164385 Bill of Rights
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Mmm k so what is this fantasy all electronic money back by. Same as fiat thin air?

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:47 | 6164079 centerline
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No doubt governments goons are giddy about the idea of purely electronic money.  I will bet TPP is part of it.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:51 | 6164098 roadhazard
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Never going to happen.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:20 | 6164217 Dr. Engali
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It will happen and it will be cool, because that's the way it will be portrayed to the millennials. Just like Starbucks, iCrap, and Farcebook. If everyone is doing it, are you really a hip trend setter?

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 19:09 | 6164782 Mad Cow
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ChipsterTM

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:10 | 6164099 TomGa
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Elimination of cash = elimination of Freedom.  Pure and simple.  

 

"I'm sorry Mr. Smith, but after cross referencing your Body Mass Index as found in the National Citizens' Bio Parameters database with your request for Peperoni, Ham, and extra cheese, your electronic payment has been denied  and one attempt at an unhealthy lifestyle choice has been recorded. Remember, three UHLS choice attempts within a six month period requires you to attend your regional "Healthy Lifestyle Choices" refresher class.  Now if you would like to order the vegan tofu pizza without the crust and a side of cottage cheese that has been approved for you..."

 

 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:36 | 6164465 css1971
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You missed the point of fascism.

"that your employer and health insurer have approved for you..."

 

Remember, You are a human resource. A work unit. A cog serving the machine.

 

 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 19:44 | 6164894 Clarabell
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In the brave new world of the future you will be lucky to be a "human resource", most people will be superfluous to the system. Most jobs will be done by robots. Most will be just a "useless eater".

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:53 | 6164110 gwar5
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Already starting to see MSM propaganda saying money is 'dirty', 'full of germs' and disease, ergo cash should be banned for safety reasons.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:23 | 6164229 Karl von Bahnhof
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Now you can see clear plain what these monsters really are.

Who does not see it is either blind, stupid or one of them.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:15 | 6164411 TeethVillage88s
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Wonder if going Cashless is in the TPP & TTIP Trade Agreements?

You know Laws have to be Normalized across borders.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:35 | 6164277 Nostradumbass
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Just happened to go to an ATM a couple of days ago where just a week prior I was able to withdraw $500. When I tried to withdraw another $500, I found that the most I could get was $200. Hmmm....

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:36 | 6164281 adr
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The government promises not to monitor your daily routine and that all transaction records will be deleted every day once taxes are assessed.

Just like airport body scans.

World history is full of examples where the people failed to stop a small group of people and the masses were caused great harm.

We only have to take out a few thousand people to right the world. There isn't any argument that can be made to save these people. The moral obligation to rid the Earth of their evil is above all else.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:23 | 6164433 PleasedToMeatYou
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Oops, I probably just put myself a little higher on the surveillance list by up arrowing you. 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:24 | 6164436 PleasedToMeatYou
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Oops, I probably just put myself a little higher on the surveillance list by making that comment. 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:26 | 6164440 PleasedToMeatYou
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Oops, I probably shouldn't have said that either. 

Oh well, our betters probably mean all of this for our own good. 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:47 | 6164304 pashley1411
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My impression when I disembark from SFO is that an unexpectedly large proportion of businesses in CA are cash-based.    Since the CA state bureaucracy, in its appreciation for capitalist enterprise, stands behind Havana.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:49 | 6164323 P'Od_Accountant
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They can go fuck themselves.  I will use their system as little as I can.  I'll use trade and barter, local currencies, and black market to buy as much goods and services as I am able.  This bullshit amounts to slavery.  

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:55 | 6164342 Karl von Bahnhof
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Long live Johnny Cash!

(hope i can keep at least my lp records)

Btw. Bob Hope is also gone.

Sars/ sorry! /sarc

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:00 | 6164356 Seek_Truth
Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:03 | 6164368 Bighorn_100b
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I never touch my rolls of Silver and Gold Eagles (BU).

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:13 | 6164407 TeethVillage88s
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This better than Cash Alliance, the Money Trust, they probably have like 5-10 big plans all coming together.

- Figure TPP & TTIP, allows GMOs, forces acceptance of GMO Sales & Financial Schemes
- Figure TPP & TTIP allows TBTF Type Derivatives
- Figure TPP & TTIP Allow Censuring of Media & Internet so that Political Leaders, kings & Queens are not insulted
- Copy Right & Intellectual Property Rights Resolution, so we have to pay some Wealth Entity for use of Invention
- Expansion of Industries, Financial Orgs, others who will be Self-Regulatory Organizations (SROs), like Fertilizer Mining, Phosphate Mining, Aluminum production, Fluoride in food & water

But maybe if they wanted to displace Private ownership of Gold & Silver, they would want an Agreement to allow confiscation of global currencies in Gold or Silver for destruction or melt, like Canadian Coins in USA...

Just a thought. I can never figure if bullion is better than coins anyway.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:37 | 6164470 Bighorn_100b
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It's complicated. If your coins have a dollar value on them, then it's still considered currency, right?

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 19:10 | 6164787 TeethVillage88s
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Exactly and if US .gov wanted to melt or destroy foreign currency, then might that be a big insult or illegal unless falls under some Trade Treaty.

Maybe I'm just paranoid from looking at coins on the net today as prices dipped.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 19:26 | 6164843 Shaznardickleze...
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raw commodity value of metalic metals don't magically get blessed having a currency mint mark. Melt that ish into a bullion bar and be done with it if currency goes south. Or make bullets for the central banking vampires if you feel so certain you've broken a law. think about that one.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 19:11 | 6164795 AmericanFUPAcabra
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Once it is out of circulation it is free game to melt down. Why else would someone own pallets of nickels?

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:05 | 6164374 Latitude25
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More like Crash Alliance.  The elimination of cash would absolutely devastate the real economy, what is left of it anyway.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:09 | 6164393 JetsettingWelfareMom
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Grow food, people. You can learn how to can, ferment, make alcohol, cannabis, you name it. It's more technically feasible to live off grid and high tech now than ever. 

Folks should get away from money, but not head towards this dystopian nightmare. You've always been playing a game with Monopoly money issued by somebody else...

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 19:13 | 6164805 AmericanFUPAcabra
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One still has to pay property taxes. Unless you are talking about squatting on someone elses land or public land? I spose all of them are 'owned' by the man one way or another.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:11 | 6164401 Bill of Rights
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These cock suckers are spring loading a plan they're just getting us programmed with the use of ' say it enough times they believe it ' bull shit.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:11 | 6164402 zeroaccountability
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Yesterday while bike riding I found 5 'Shelfx' cards laying on grass by road.  NFC technology.

There is a reason the PTB want to convert everyone to phone pay and card pay/cashless.

Control. Control of every aspect of human life.

It will happen.  None of US have the means to stop it.  No matter how 'awake' WE are, the vast majority of humanity lives in a hypnotic trance, has an IQ of about 70, reads at a 5th grade level, if at all, and doesn't have tuppence to rub together.

The Power Elite have the money, thereby the means to make changes.  Only the monied interests will make changes on planet Earth, for better or WORSE.

The sheep will simply graze and follow.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 17:11 | 6164403 Kirk2NCC1701
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You can bet your ass(ets) that hi-tech companies like Microsoft, Apple, Intel and Oracle (and their Oligarch owners) are slobbering and peeing all over themselves with the excitement of pushing us toward a cashless society -- as it'll be a guaranteed revenue maker for years or decades to come. 

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