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Iraq War Propaganda Redux: U.S. Claims Syrian Government Supporting ISIS

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West Busted Supporting ISIS ... Tries Instead to Point Finger At Syrian Government

America's closest allies have been busted supporting ISIS in order to topple Syria's government.  Mainstream U.S. writers are calling for open support of ISIS and Al Qaeda to enact regime change in Syria.

And a newly-declassified government document hints that the West supported the creation of ISIS.

This may sound far-fectched and wild-eyed  ... But the following former high-level US and UK intelligence officials and whistleblowers confirm that the document implicates the West in the birth of ISIS:

  • Military analyst - and famed Pentagon Papers whistleblower - Daniel Ellsberg
  • High-level NSA official Thomas Drake
  • Well-known FBI whistleblower Colleen Rowley
  • Senior MI6 officer Alastair Crooke
  • MI5 counter-terrorism officer Annie Machon
  • British counter-terrorism officer Charles Shoebridge

In any event, whether or not you believe the West created ISIS, the U.S. is now trying to blame the single most unlikely entity imaginable for ISIS ... the Syrian government.

Specifically,  the U.S. Embassy in Syria just accused the Syrian government of supporting ISIS:

 

This is all kinds of silly ... and is Iraq War propaganda redux.

Specifically, the Syrian government and ISIS are mortal enemies.

The Syrian government - which is allied with Shia Muslims - has been battling Sunni jihadis for many years. ISIS are Sunnis ... the arch-enemy of Shias and the Syrian government.  The Syrian government is ruled by a sect of Shias called Alawites.

In other words, ISIS and the Syrian government are on opposite sides of the war, and have been ever since ISIS was formed.

Similarly, in the run up to the Iraq War, Bush and the gang said that Saddam was in bed with Al Qaeda.   Only one little problem: Saddam and Al Qaeda hated each other's guts.

Flashback:  A Bogus Iraq-Qaeda "Connection"

Because the accusations that the Syrian government is supporting ISIS mirror so closely what happened in the run up to the Iraq war, let's recap ...

5 hours after the 9/11 attacks, Donald Rumsfeld said “my interest is to hit Saddam”. He also said “Go massive . . . Sweep it all up. Things related and not.”

And at 2:40 p.m. on September 11th, in a memorandum of discussions between top administration officials, several lines below the statement “judge whether good enough [to] hit S.H. [that is, Saddam Hussein] at same time”, is the statement “Hard to get a good case.” In other words, top officials knew that there wasn’t a good case that Hussein was behind 9/11, but they wanted to use the 9/11 attacks as an excuse to justify war with Iraq anyway.

Moreover, “Ten days after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President Bush was told in a highly classified briefing that the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence linking the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein to the [9/11] attacks and that there was scant credible evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al Qaeda”.

And a Defense Intelligence Terrorism Summary issued in February 2002 by the United States Defense Intelligence Agency cast significant doubt on the possibility of a Saddam Hussein-al-Qaeda conspiracy.

And yet Bush, Cheney and other top administration officials claimed repeatedly for years that Saddam was behind 9/11. See this analysis. Indeed, Bush administration officials apparently swore in a lawsuit that Saddam was behind 9/11.

Moreover, President Bush’s March 18, 2003 letter to Congress authorizing the use of force against Iraq, includes the following paragraph:

(2) acting pursuant to the Constitution and Public Law 107-243 is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

Therefore, the Bush administration expressly justified the Iraq war to Congress by representing that Iraq planned, authorized, committed, or aided the 9/11 attacks.

Indeed, Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Ron Suskind reports that the White House ordered the CIA to forge and backdate a document falsely linking Iraq with Muslim terrorists and 9/11 … and that the CIA complied with those instructions and in fact created the forgery, which was then used to justify war against Iraq. And see this.

Suskind also revealed that “Bush administration had information from a top Iraqi intelligence official ‘that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq – intelligence they received in plenty of time to stop an invasion.’ ”

Cheney made the false linkage between Iraq and 9/11 on many occasions.

For example, according to Raw Story, Cheney was still alleging a connection between Iraq and the alleged lead 9/11 hijacker in September 2003 – a year after it had been widely debunked. When NBC’s Tim Russert asked him about a poll showing that 69% of Americans believed Saddam Hussein had been involved in 9/11, Cheney replied:

It’s not surprising that people make that connection.

And even after the 9/11 Commission debunked any connection, Cheney said that the evidence is “overwhelming” that al Qaeda had a relationship with Saddam Hussein’s regime , that Cheney “probably” had information unavailable to the Commission, and that the media was not ‘doing their homework’ in reporting such ties.

Again, the Bush administration expressly justified the Iraq war by representing that Iraq planned, authorized, committed, or aided the 9/11 attacks. See this, this, this.

On December 16, 2005, Bush admitted “There was no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the attack of 9/11″ (and see this video).  However, Bush and Cheney continued to frequently invoke 9/11 as justification for the Iraq war.  And see this. (Cheney finally admitted in 2009 that there was no link.)

A bipartisan Senate Report from 2006 found that Bush misled the press on Iraq link to Al-Qaeda.

The administration’s false claims about Saddam and 9/11 helped convince a large portion of the American public to support the invasion of Iraq. While the focus now may be on false WMD claims, it is important to remember that, at the time, the alleged link between Iraq and 9/11 was at least as important in many people’s mind as a reason to invade Iraq.

Top Bush administration officials not only knowingly lied about a non-existent connection between Al Qaida and Iraq, but they pushed and insisted that interrogators use special torture methods aimed at extracting false confessions in an attempt to create such a false linkage.

McClatchy reported in 2009:

Former senior U.S. intelligence official familiar with the interrogation issue said that Cheney and former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld demanded that the interrogators find evidence of al Qaida-Iraq collaboration

 

For most of 2002 and into 2003, Cheney and Rumsfeld, especially, were also demanding proof of the links between al Qaida and Iraq that (former Iraqi exile leader Ahmed) Chalabi and others had told them were there.”

 

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When people kept coming up empty, they were told by Cheney’s and Rumsfeld’s people to push harder,” he continued.”Cheney’s and Rumsfeld’s people were told repeatedly, by CIA . . . and by others, that there wasn’t any reliable intelligence that pointed to operational ties between bin Laden and Saddam . . .

 

A former U.S. Army psychiatrist, Maj. Charles Burney, told Army investigators in 2006 that interrogators at the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, detention facility were under “pressure” to produce evidence of ties between al Qaida and Iraq.

 

“While we were there a large part of the time we were focused on trying to establish a link between al Qaida and Iraq and we were not successful in establishing a link between al Qaida and Iraq,” Burney told staff of the Army Inspector General. “The more frustrated people got in not being able to establish that link . . . there was more and more pressure to resort to measures that might produce more immediate results.”

 

“I think it’s obvious that the administration was scrambling then to try to find a connection, a link (between al Qaida and Iraq),” [Senator] Levin said in a conference call with reporters. “They made out links where they didn’t exist.”

 

Levin recalled Cheney’s assertions that a senior Iraqi intelligence officer had met Mohammad Atta, the leader of the 9/11 hijackers, in the Czech Republic capital of Prague just months before the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

 

The FBI and CIA found that no such meeting occurred.

In other words, top Bush administration officials not only knowingly lied about a non-existent connection between Al Qaeda and Iraq, but they pushed and insisted that interrogators use special torture methods aimed at extracting false confessions to attempt to create such a false linkage.

The Washington Post reported the same year:

Despite what you’ve seen on TV, torture is really only good at one thing: eliciting false confessions. Indeed, Bush-era torture techniques, we now know, were cold-bloodedly modeled after methods used by Chinese Communists to extract confessions from captured U.S. servicemen that they could then use for propaganda during the Korean War.

 

So as shocking as the latest revelation in a new Senate Armed Services Committee report may be, it actually makes sense — in a nauseating way. The White House started pushing the use of torture not when faced with a “ticking time bomb” scenario from terrorists, but when officials in 2002 were desperately casting about for ways to tie Iraq to the 9/11 attacks — in order to strengthen their public case for invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 at all.

 

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Gordon Trowbridge writes for the Detroit News: “Senior Bush administration officials pushed for the use of abusive interrogations of terrorism detainees in part to seek evidence to justify the invasion of Iraq, according to newly declassified information discovered in a congressional probe.

Colin Powell’s former chief of staff (Colonel Larry Wilkerson) also wrote in 2009 that the Bush administration’s “principal priority for intelligence was not aimed at pre-empting another terrorist attack on the U.S. but discovering a smoking gun linking Iraq and al-Qaeda.”

Here We Go Again ...

Of course, truth is the first casualty of war, and so the fact that the Syrian government and ISIS are mortal enemies or that Saddam and Al Qaeda hated each other makes no difference in the middle of a tidal wave of propaganda.

The U.S. has decided on regime change (again!) in Syria, just like it committed to regime change (again!) in Iraq.

And America will say and do anything to get its war on.

 

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Fri, 06/05/2015 - 13:53 | 6167269 dexter_morgan
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So, why come no IRS investigation of the Clinton 'charity' stuff? Thought the IRS was in to investigating these political charities?

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 12:09 | 6166920 BullyBearish
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You keep it up George...if only to keep shitstain in a tizzy

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 11:54 | 6166866 One_Two_Trade
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Obama is supporting the ISIS. Period.

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 11:33 | 6166784 coltek
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“Oh, what a tangled web we weave...when first we practice to deceive.” 

 

---Walter Scott, Marmion

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 10:06 | 6166488 q99x2
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John McCain and Hillary Clinton support ISIS

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 09:37 | 6166388 Skip
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GW you always post VALUABLE and exceedingly well researched articles. I thank you for that.

Assad, his wife and children are Whites who celebrate Christmas. No wonder Obongo and his handlers want him GONE.

And the REAL Overlords of the USSA get everything, all the time, it was like when the bailouts to the Banksters on the Upper Eastside of Manhattan, real estate SKYROCKETED in Tel Aviv.

This is from 2003, the gentleman who wrote it then died at the age of 40 from a "heart attack" perhaps. The cost of Israel to the American taxpayer at that time was $3 TRILLION
http://www.wrmea.org/wrmea-archives/251-washington-report-archives-2000-...

Our Next Mideast War—Syria
By Patrick J. Buchanan May 14, 2015

The Israelis seem to be in on the game as well. While they have taken in rebels wounded on the Golan Heights and returned them to their units, there are reports of Israel aiding the Nusra Front with intelligence and even air strikes.

This week, an Israeli official bluntly warned that Hezbollah has amassed 100,000 short-range rockets capable of striking northern Israel, thousands of which could hit Tel Aviv. The rockets are said to be hidden in Shiite villages in southern Lebanon.

Israel is preparing, writes The New York Times‘ Isabel Kershner, “for what it sees as an almost inevitable next battle with Hezbollah.”

As Hezbollah has been the most effective fighting ally of Assad, an Israeli war on Hezbollah could help bring Assad down.

But, again, who rises if Assad falls? And who else, besides Christians and Alawites, starts digging their graves?

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 09:33 | 6166372 steelrules
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Keep playing the same song over and over US Gov. and maybe some will believe it, but not anyone that's capable of critical thought.

 

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 08:26 | 6166112 loregnum
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Yay, another Washington's Blog post about 9/11. This coudl ahve easily been about the current bullshit but nope, had to rehash 9/11 for the trillionth time.

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 10:47 | 6166637 Pullmyfinger
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Please enlighten us and explain in what way there's any difference.

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 08:19 | 6166088 cherry picker
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If only one, just one of the things that are negative about the USA in respect to terrorist activities and innocents are dying, wounded or mislaced, it is bad enough.

Today we know it is not one but much more.  It goes back decades.  Korea, Vietnam, the Eisenhower death camps, slavery, the black lists of the fifties, slaughtering Natives and stealing their country, screwing the Mexicans out of lands.  The Gringos are led to believe their land is milk, honey and streets paved with gold, but as long as this continues with no will to stop it and throwing the cartel that is Washington DC and Banks who also were indicted and paid fines in jail, there will be no honor that country.

When I see ads to join that fucking military it makes me want to puke.

It is a good place to avoid and a better place not to live.  I would rather be poor and wonder where my next meal is coming from than contribute to the slime who are proud to call themselves Republicans or Democrats, both are neither.

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 06:39 | 6165904 Condor96
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http://albainternazionale.blogspot.it/2015/06/massimiliano-greco-cia-ope...

Russia, Putin, Coopertions, Iran, Opertion Ajax etc ... 

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 06:30 | 6165890 Jack Daniels Esq
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The USG is the largest terror group in the world - Hague, y'all

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 04:23 | 6165819 shutterbug
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OMFG. There has to be a special place in HELL for people employed or working for the USA government. The very very worst part of it.

 

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 03:33 | 6165794 WTFUD
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Swedish Syrian Jihadi Trial Collapses in UK as it was found the UK Government were supplying Non-Lethal Aid ( HAha) to Fighters. The IRONY!!!!!!!!

Think of ALL THOSE RETURNING DANCING JIHADI's to Uwop.

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 01:51 | 6165711 Radical Marijuana
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The Ted Talk I link below does not penetrate too deeply into the levels of lies regarding 9/11/2001 being an inside job, false flag attack, but nevertheless, it does provide interesting facts about how the FBI has been the primary promoter of "terrorist attacks" in the USA, after 9/11:

Trevor Aaronson: How this FBI strategy is actually creating US-based terrorists

OF COURSE, the real situation is WAY WORSE after one understands the extremely high probability that THOSE "... top officials [WHO] knew that there wasn’t a good case that Hussein was behind 9/11, but ... wanted to use the 9/11 attacks as an excuse to justify war with Iraq anyway," WERE VERY PROBABLY ORIGINALLY INVOLVED IN ENABLING THE EVENTS ON 9/11/2001 TO HAPPEN, AND THEREAFTER, PUBLICLY PROMOTED THE FALSE OFFICIAL STORY ABOUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED.

The real situation we are inside of is WAY WORSE than any of the articles that George Washington tends to present, on level after level, after one looks at enough of the publicly available information to comprehend the extremely high probability that the most significant of the "terrorist" attacks that have happened, so far, were inside job, false flag attacks.

While George Washington's series of articles have been well-researched, and promote the view that the political situation is rotten, personally I feel that he deliberately shies away from conclusions regarding the degree to which the ruling classes have become criminally insane. To summarize my view, there MUST necessarily be some human death controls systems, which have human murder systems at their central core, however, the history of warfare has selected for the most socially successful systems of death controls to operate through the maximum possible deceits. That has resulted in the ruling classes becoming the biggest terrorists, who have promoted terrorism to become a self-fulfilling prophesy, which has deliberately driven more and more terrorism, by kicking that off with inside job, false flag attacks, that then get more vicious spirals going, that drive that to get worse, faster ... That is NOT NEW, however, 9/11 was the most spectacular symbol of it, so far ... In general, we are are way up shit creek without a paddle, because there must necessarily exist some human death control systems, but the ones that actually exist are based on the maximum possible deceits.

In that context, the article above is certainly correct that "America will say and do anything to get its war on." HOWEVER, the vast majority of the American people are NOT inside of the loop of those doing that, which can variously be described as the "Deep State," or "Shadow Government," etc. ... In my view, the deeper levels of the political paradoxes that we face are that there is almost nothing but a core of organized crime, surrounded by layers of controlled opposition, BOTH of which stay within the same basic frame of reference of the maximum possible deceits regarding the death control systems.

It is NOT good enough to reveal, to some superficial degree, how the actual death controls are being operated through the maximum possible deceits, which has historically included a long list of various sorts of false flag attacks designed to start wars based on deceits. The ONLY thing that would be sufficient would be to develop better death control systems. However, at the present time, the human species is painting itself into a corner due to the established social systems being dominated by the best professional liars and immaculate hypocrites, while there are no publicly significant groups which "oppose" them that do not also continue to operate inside of the same fundamentally fraudulent world views.

It is an INTENSE PARADOX that governments are necessarily the biggest forms of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, and thus, it is the ruling classes, or the pyramidion people in the social pyramid systems, which have been engaged in the biggest forms of terrorism, and have been the best organized gangs of terrorists. Moreover, those few who begin to recognize that INTENSE PARADOX still tend to never think through the deeper reasons regarding how and why that is the actual situation.

As the video I linked above demonstrates, there is NO DOUBT that the FBI have been the primary promoters of "terrorist attacks." However, nothing in that video suggests that the speaker is able and willing to follow through regarding the ways that some of the highest levels of the FBI must have been complicit in enabling the events on 9/11/2001 to occur as inside job, false flag attacks, and also, for the some of the highest levels of the FBI to continue to participate in the cover-up of the real facts, in order to facilitate the dissemination of the false "official story" about what happened on 9/11.

My personal view is that our society has become terminally sick and insane, and therefore, I am wasting my time to bother to post this comment. Fortunately, since I believe that to be objectively the case, I also believe that I am too trivial for any of the professional organized crime gangs that dominate the established systems to care about. Therefore, I believe that promoting more radical truths about "terrorists" and wars based on deceits, is pretty well useless and pointless. But nevertheless, I will continue to apparently waste my time by pointing out that natural selection always existed, and therefore, that was internalized as human systems of artificial selection, which developed through human history to become combined money/murder systems, based on the social successfulness of the maximum possible frauds and deceits.

I REPEAT the basic point: there must necessarily be some human death control systems, which have the human murder systems as their most extreme manifestation. However, those have been selected to become the most socially successful when done in the most deceitful ways. Therefore, the problems we face are WAY WORSE than those who merely point out that the existing death control systems are deceitful, since there still must necessarily be some death control systems.

For several decades, I have become more and more concerned that the human systems of death controls based on deceits and treacheries have been amplified by access to weapons of mass destruction. However, I have always found that is was practically a waste of time to point that out ... The human species is collectively preparing to commit suicide, because of the ways that the existing death controls are operating through the maximum possible deceits about themselves, and are publicly are mostly able to get away with doing that. Therefore, the human murder systems have been astronomically amplified in SIZE by weapons of mass destruction, while those systems continue to be based on the maximum possible deceits and treacheries, and that continues to mostly be socially successful strategies.

The essential problem with the presentations of the well-researched articles by George Washington, as republished on Zero Hedge, is that those never go deeper, through the paradoxes of how and why the human murder systems must necessarily exist, and have developed to become based on the maximum possible deceits about themselves. By and large, of course, there appears to be no practical point in my attempts to promote more radical truths, regarding the ways that the development of weapons of mass destruction ought to motivate us to develop better death controls systems, which are not based upon the maximum possible deceits, which includes the ways that the controlled opposition groups tend to promote the same deceitful frame of reference, by presuming that there should not be any death control systems at all, or, at least, none that human beings were consciously aware of operating.

All of the history of Neolithic Civilizations has been based on backing up lies with violence, while real progress in physical science has enabled that to become worse, faster, at an exponential rate. Therefore, we now have weapons of mass destruction, that are trillions of times more powerful than anything which previously existed in know human history, while the established death controls continue to be done through the maximum possible deceits, such as through inside job, false flag terrorists attacks, being deliberately designed to become self-fulfilling prophecies, that could start more genocidal wars, as well as prepare to impose democidal martial law.

The vast majority of people, as far as the public presentation of them through the mass media indicates, do not understand the degree to which they have been deceived by wars based on deceits. However, at the same time, the few who do somewhat wake up to those social facts tend to never propose how we could operate better death control systems. Therefore, our real problems are WAY WORSE than authors like George Washington ever publicly present!

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 11:31 | 6166795 gonetogalt
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Radical, i always enjoy your posts, you have a great handle on the total impossibility of humanity finding a solution to the indescribably grave situation we find ourselves in. Therefore, I'll throw out the only possible positive outcome to the mess you so eloquently describe.

A good understanding of the following is based on a prior reading of The Mystery of the Shemitah by Jonathan Cahn, and a reading of The Islamic AntiChrist by Joel Richardson.

 

These are my version of Cliff Notes,   Yes, anyway the timeline is this:   Rev 5 v1 And I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a scroll written inside and on the back, sealed with seven seals. (relevant thing is the scroll written front and back)   Rev 6 v1  Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, "Come and see."   This happened in 1889 by my reckoning, an unpublicized meeting of wealthy men, bankers, Jews, who shook hands on the Zionist agenda, essentially putting in motion WW I, Bolshevik revolution, US Federal Reserve, Media dominance, etc, (just check the Protocols of Zion, 1907).   2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.   So, as on one side of the scroll everything that Cahn describes as related to the economic effects of the Shemitah are happening, on the other side of the scroll this is happening. The signal event of the 1st horseman is the Russian Revolution. This took 28 years (4 Shemitahs corresponding to the 4 legs of a horse) to come to completion.   3 When He opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come and see."

4 Another horse, fiery red, went out. And it was granted to the one who sat on it to take peace from the earth, and that people should kill one another; and there was given to him a great sword.
  The great sword being the atomic weapons age, 4 Shemitahs later, 1945. 5 When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come and see." So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, "A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine."
  Corresponds to the end of Bretton Woods, (1973, 4 Shemitahs from 1945) when the great disparity of wealth between the elites and the working people began to grow, (well documented on ZH & others) and the advent of 3rd world famines.
7 When He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, "Come and see." 8 So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth. ( 911, naturally, 4 Shemitahs from 1973)   9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?" 11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.   Al Queda and ISIS really get on a roll. ISIS is USA/Mossad created & armed and will morph into the Beast ridden (controlled) by the Harlot described in Rev 17.  So now that the 4 horsemen are finished, this thing progresses at the rate of the Shemitah, this seal opened in 2008, same time as the 2008 meltdown/Lehman Bros Bankruptcy.   12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?"   So, if you've followed me so far, you see the 6th seal opens in about 3 months...I love the smell of napalm in the morning... With the 70th week of Daniel opening in 2022... And as an added bonus, The year of Jubilee starts in September of this year and runs through September of 2016, you know, the 49 year cycle of land redemption from the Jewish Lunar Calendar...This time it's shaping up to be a doozy of a war.    I also just realized this weekend how ISIS and the Anglo American Zionist empire is specifically mentioned , check this... Rev 17 v1 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and talked with me, saying to me, "Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, 2 with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication." 3 So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name was written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement.

A careful reading of this chapter shows a remarkable description of the US's relationship with Islamic Jihad in general. Whoever said "The natural enemy of Judaism isn't Islam, it's Christianity" was right on. Did the Zionists inflame this divide to have Christianity destroy the Islamic nations for Israel's security, or did the Zionists inflame this divide to have the Islamists destroy Christiandom for Israel's future world dominance? Or Both???   Rev 17 v15 Then he said to me, "The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. 16 And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. 18 And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth."   Chapters 17 &18 are pretty descriptive of New York, not only the financial center of the world but also the corporate head of American media, exported in TV and movie media setting global social standards.

Rev 18 v17 For in one hour such great riches came to nothing.' Every shipmaster, all who travel by ship, sailors, and as many as trade on the sea, stood at a distance 18 and cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, 'What is like this great city?' 19 They threw dust on their heads and cried out, weeping and wailing, and saying, 'Alas, alas, that great city, in which all who had ships on the sea became rich by her wealth! For in one hour she is made desolate.'

Although Christians are exhorted to abandon the Harlot now, partly because quiet submission is tacit support...It's clear that the final destruction comes after the remaining Christians are removed from this world even though:
Rev 18 v4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.    But there's also this...(and it's in context)
1 Thes v9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,   The destruction comes directly after the 7th Trumpet/Vial judgment is declared, or beginning the 2nd half of Daniel's 70th week.   Just wait until the Caliphate is headquartered in Turkey, (Gog) and is a major Mid-East power...around 2025.
   Ezekiel 38 v1 Now the word of the Lord came to me, saying,
2 "Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3 and say, 'Thus says the Lord God: "Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal. 4 I will turn you around, put hooks into your jaws, and lead you out, with all your army, horses, and horsemen, all splendidly clothed, a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords. 5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya are with them, all of them with shield and helmet; 6 Gomer and all its troops; the house of Togarmah from the far north and all its troops--many people are with you.  

(And if one were to wonder the why of all of this, consider what God said concerning this time 2600 years ago...(and a bunch more on the same subject in this chapter)   Ezekiel 36 v21 I had concern for my holy name, which the house of Israel profaned among the nations where they had gone. 22 "Therefore say to the house of Israel, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone.   My conclusion is that understanding the Shemitah cycle puts a definite timeframe to most of the otherwise cryptic events, and allows us to plan accordingly.
   


Fri, 06/05/2015 - 16:57 | 6167788 Radical Marijuana
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Yes, gonetogalt, I was familiar with that from listening to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TsYBuw6rko

Prepare - We are at the Verge of Collapse

Says Jonathan Cahn Author of Mystery of the Shemitah, who discusses the extraordinary strong correlations between the American economic "business cycles," which are the euphemistical descriptions of bubble economics, which were really due to the banksters being able to control the public "money" supply. I believe that one can understand how and why the political economy of the USA has been closely following the patterns of the Hebrew calendar by facing the facts regarding which cultural groups have been able to seize control over the public "money" supply. Those patterns were self-fulfilling prophesies, due to who were the best organized gangs of criminals, that were able to control the American political economy, as well as most of the rest of the world.

Indeed, as you observed, gonetogalt:

"Shemitah cycle puts a definite timeframe to most of the otherwise cryptic events."

P.S.

I originally noticed that material about the Shemitah only a few months ago, as I mentioned in my comment posted under a previous article republished on Zero Hedge from George Washington:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-05/qe-inventor-it’s-easy-create-full-blown-recovery-central-banks-chose-make-banksters-

QE Inventor:  It’s EASY to Create a Full-Blown Recovery,  But Central Banks Chose to Make Banksters Rich Instead ...

That article I linked just above by George Washington, while superficially correct, does NOT address the deeper levels of the real problems, because that seems the STANDING PATTERN of almost everything that is republished on Zero Hedge. While that material is far superior to anything one can read or watch in the mass media, I often find that many of the comments are better than the original article.

Overall, there is NO DOUBT that there are way too many "spooky coincidences" regarding the timing of significant events, including the timing of mass murders, to regard those are being totally coincidental. There comes a point where so many coincidences pile up on top of each other that one can quite plausibly consider that those patterns are being deliberately orchestrated.

One long video that I also found interesting, regarding the use of symbols, repeating in patterns far too consistently to be merely coincidence, was this one:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L777RhL_Fz4

Secrets in Plain Sight

 

P.P.S.

I do NOT presume to having figured everything out, but rather, presume I will never be able to ...  

Rather, I continue to like saying that:

"The lies are different at every level."

 

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 11:05 | 6166704 Pullmyfinger
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"The real situation we are inside of is WAY WORSE than any of the articles that George Washington tends to present, on level after level..."

Absolutely, even to the point where the capacity for an accurate verbal depiction breaks down completely. I keep most of my opinions on the matter to myself, but the breadth and scope of the difference between what we commonly believe and the reality is breathtaking. Everything that has been touched by, or under the perview of conventional authority has been corrupted.

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 01:57 | 6165734 VWAndy
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Its not really all that easy to talk about real death controls without finding out about them first hand. So please stop with that line. Ya gonna get someone killed. Thanks.

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 20:28 | 6167722 Radical Marijuana
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As I understand it, most of the people who have controlled the government of the USA to engage in the various wars based on deceits that are mentioned in the article above are "Chicken Hawks." Generally speaking, the people who find out about the human murder systems first-hand tend to not be in control of what is happening, but rather their "fate" brings them to find themselves in the middle of that chaos, without having played much of role in setting those circumstances up. Long ago, generals used to literally lead their armies. Today, that is certainly not the case.

Personally speaking, I live in Canada, and therefore, there is almost no significant violence in my vicinity. However, I am still surrounded by the established systems, where I tend to regard the police as just another one of the organized crime gangs, which are more of a threat than any of the other lesser organized crime gangs. Moreover, in the bigger picture, most of the real death control systems operate obliquely, without people even thinking about those as being that.

The combined money/murder systems, cascade from the military, to the monetary, to the medical, and so on and so forth, throughout every other lower level of how the real death controls operate. For a few Centuries the basic systems of debt slavery backed up by wars based on deceits have resulted in most wars being the banksters' wars, as demonstrated by they are the only ones who continually get more powerful and wealthier, no matter how many other people are murdered, or property destroyed.

The military powers of the USA, as well as other NATO countries, actually serve the interests of the international bankers, and enforce the internationalized frauds. Meanwhile, the police inside countries, by enforcing the "rule of law," such as that one has to pay taxes using the public "money" supply made out of nothing as debts by privately controlled banks, also actually work more for the bankers, than anybody else.

When one more fully considers the ways that money is measurement backed by murder, it is NOT possible to have NO first-hand experience with the combined money/murder systems. However, most people have been conditioned to not perceive that, and to not want to see that. Therefore, we operate our death controls through the maximum possible deceits, whereby a host of false fundamental dichotomies are used to be able to bullshit about what is happening. The basic language that used to publicly discuss the death control systems is almost totally bullshit, which was deliberately promoted to be such utter bullshit, because that benefited the biggest bullies, which are now primarily the banksters, and the big corporations that have grown up around the big banks that dominate the creation of the public "money" supply out of nothing, as enforced frauds.

The actual blood spilled on the ground kinds of "death controls" are but the tiniest tip of the iceberg of death control systems. Most of the most important death controls are not even perceived as such by most people. By the time that death is flying around as bullets, that situation has become extremely chaotic, to a degree that is somewhat out of the control of those shooting those bullets. Rather, the more important decisions were made long before, and not on the battlefields, but rather in the board rooms.

Meanwhile, I have no intention of every stopping using the phrases regarding "death controls" in the ways that I do, because it is absolutely vital that human beings develop better artificial selection systems, which are consistent with natural selection systems, IF human beings are going to survive having already achieve real progress in physical sciences, which has enabled making weapons of mass destruction. The ways that people have developed to understand natural selection systems could and should be applied to understand human artificial selection systems. After there is life, then death comes as a package deal, and directed the evolution of that life. Human beings share in the chronic political problems which are inherent to the nature of all life.

It is consistent with understanding natural selection pressures to comprehend how and why human beings developed warfare, whereby the human ecology actually did its death controls through the maximum possible deceits. It is also consistent with natural selection pressures to comprehend how and why the established political economy is based on enforcing frauds, which developed from the history of warfare being based upon backing up deceits with destruction. It is even consistent with natural selection pressures to comprehend how and why the biggest bullies' bullshit became dominant, and therefore, even the basic concept of entropy by inverted, as one of the most abstract ways that everything else was inverted.

The INTENSE PARADOXES developed in the context of human politics are consistent with a deeper understanding of natural selection pressures, manifesting through human beings and civilizations as entropic pumps of energy flows, where those human beings developed the most absurd and backward ways possible to describe what they were really doing because the social successfulness of what they were really doing depended upon their skillfully being deceitful and treacherous.

Energy IS Spirit, and the universe as a whole continues to be perfect, no matter the degree to which some human beings perfect their abilities to be dishonest and violent. Indeed, the PARADOXICAL POINT of my comment above is that entropy is the scientific way to approach understanding evil.

Our society deliberately misunderstands evil to the maximum degree possible. That manifests in the ways that governments are the biggest terrorist organizations, while those who effectively control governments are the best terrorist organizations. That had its most spectacular symbolic expression so far in the ways that the events on 9/11/2001 were inside job, false flag attacks, which very probably were done by "Zionists" to blame on "Muslims" (for lack of any better labels.)

The essential dilemma that I continue to pound upon is that real progress in physical science has enabled the development of technologies which are trillions of times more powerful and capable than ever before in human history, BUT, those are primarily employed to become better at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence, in ways which have become psychotic, runaway criminal insanities, in which the ruling classes are leading those they rule over towards committing crazy collective suicide.

Meanwhile, natural selection always existed, and will continue to exist, as the expression of natural forces, that pressure living things to develop in the ways that they do. Human beings can not be human without telling stories about that, and then behaving more or less based upon those stories that they tell themselves. THAT IS THE POINT OF THE ARTICLE ABOVE, DECEITFUL STORIES ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING, AND WHO IS DOING THAT, WHICH LEAD TO EVEN MORE DECEITFUL WARS, DRIVING WORSE VICIOUS SPIRALS OF DEATH INSANITIES, TOWARDS SPINNING OUT OF CONTROL ...

A first level of radical truth is to recognize how and why the ruling classes are actually the biggest and best organized terrorist organizations, backing up debt slavery with wars based on deceits. However, the next level of more radical truths is to recognize that there still must be some death control systems. Indeed, the ONLY way that the human species MIGHT survive the real progress in physical science developing weapons of mass destruction is to carry on through towards real progress in political science ...

Doing that require perceiving the death control systems in radically different ways, and after telling radically different stories about those death control systems, then that may enable changing those death control systems, somewhat, although, as long as any human beings still live, then there must always continue to be some human death control systems. The real challenge is to develop better death control systems. That is extremely difficult at the present time because the established systems are as deceitful as they can possibly be, as well as control their apparent opposition to also tell the same basically deceitful stories about those death controls.

Articles by George Washington tend to only partially go through the first level of presenting more radical truths. So far, I have never read anything from George Washington that goes on through to deeper levels of more radical truths regarding the death control systems. I endeavour to do that because, for several decades, I have been worrying about the existence of weapons of mass destruction, backing up the presumptions of endless exponential growth of the human population and total of human economic activities.

We are going to be forced to adapt to the finite limits of planet Earth, (and would also be forced to adapt to the finite limits of the Solar System, or the galaxy, etc., IF we survived long enough to run into those limits eventually.) By definition, adapting to limits of a finite planet Earth is going to demand developing different ecologies, which ARE going to evolve, sooner or later, in one way or another. Ideally, human beings could develop better mental models of their world, with better mental models of themselves, within their mental models of the world. However, doing that requires recognizing the profound importance of deliberate deceits controlling civilization.

As I REPEAT, articles by George Washington are typical illustrations of the efforts made by some people to describe the sociopolitical facts regarding the degree to which the government of the USA is actually controlled by backing up lies with violence, with socipathic psychopaths in control. However, his articles are also typical of the subsequent failures to go through deeper levels of analysis, which would then lead to proposing how to operate better death control systems.

That is the kind of political science fiction that I have always engaged in doing. My own sense of intellectual integrity will not allow me to use the English language in any other ways. Therefore, I plan on continuing to discuss the death control systems, despite that the vast majority of people would rather not do so ...  HAH! Indeed, one of the reasons that I can do so is that only a vanishingly small number of people are interested in more radical truths about the death control systems. The ruling classes can easily continue to deliberately ignore the efforts made by authors like George Washington to reveal the degree to which the ruling classes are deceitful, because most of those who are ruled over have adapted for generation after generation to those being the social facts. As long as the ruling classes can continue to control civilization by backing up their deceits with destruction, then they do not have to care about those who might reveal more of the radical truths about that.

However, as the established systems continue to drive themselves through towards their own insane self-destruction, then some opportunities may emerge for the development of new systems. By definition, the only thing that is going to stop exponential growth from its absolutely impossible endless doublings down, will be the death controls, which will direct the evolution of some different human ecology and political economy.

The production of destruction is a special form of production, since it controls production. Of course, that is being deliberately misunderstood in the maximum possible absurd and backward ways at the present time, inside of our civilization, which is based on the historical success of the biggest bullies' bullshit world view dominating everything. The basic laws of nature are the principles of the conservation of energy, and increasing entropy. However, human beings have deliberately misunderstood entropy. That is merely the most abstract form of the ways that our civilization is based upon deliberately misunderstanding everything else.

That 9/11 was an inside job, false flag attack, actually done by those who were able to successfully get away with blaming others, and thereby start more genocidal wars, based on deceits, that automatically have gotten worse, faster, is deeply related to the entire history of Neolithic Civilizations, being based upon backing up lies with violence, which then gradually developed to become the currently existing political economy based on enforced frauds. Meanwhile, along the ways that those combined money/murder systems developed, we more and more ended up living inside of a Bizarro Mirror World, or Wonderland Matrix, since governments are the biggest forms of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, which get away with lying about that almost totally, especially since their controlled opposition groups actually stay within the same frame of reference of false fundamental dichotomies, and related impossible ideals, that the biggest bullies original promoted to be able to rationalize and justify their own crimes, and use of the tactics of terrorism.

Authors like George Washington, as well as pretty well all of the rest of the content on Zero Hedge, are the work of controlled opposition, that does not recognize the degree to which it is being controlled by the language that they use, and therefore, the ways that they think and communicate what they think. Ironically, often those authors begin to appreciate that, but still only relatively superficially (and, of course, I must necessarily be included in that category, with respect to whatever errors that I continue to take for granted, and therefore, am not aware of making.)

I push the recognition that the established death controls are based on the maximum possible deceits through to develop ways that we might be able to develop better death control systems, which were not so psychotic. Of course, the INTENSE PARADOXES are that energy is never created nor destroyed, by anything that human beings can do. Indeed, those INTENSE PARADOXES are proven when one understands how atomic bombs work. Therefore, nothing that human beings can actually do, with respect to their production of destruction, ever actually destroys anything, in the sense that energy continues to be conserved. Therefore, all of the ways that we understand what we are doing when the production of destruction controls subsequent production are related to the ways that energy is spread out through time and space, which are related to the ways that we understand entropy, or evil.

CENTRAL ISSUES with respect to paradigm shifts enabling real progress in physical sciences have been changes in the ways that we thought about time and space. THOSE ISSUES also should have changed the ways that we thought about entropic processes in general, and especially changed the ways that we thought about the death control systems. However, instead, weapons of mass destruction have been deployed by people who did not understand, and did not want to understand, how and why those weapons worked. Rather, those people sought to use those weapons to promote their systems of backing up lies with violence, or enforcing frauds.

That is what is happening today, with the various wars directed by the banksters. Those are headed towards causing death insanities. In that context, it is correct to say that talking about the real death controls is going to get someone killed. However, there are NO ways to stop that from happening anyway. Rather, the only realistic alternatives in the real world are to change the death control systems, regarding who gets killed, and how they are killed.

In that context, authors like George Washington illustrate the patterns of revealing the degree to which the ruling classes are operating extremely deceitful death control systems, BUT, do not follow through to promote any realistic solutions, that propose some better death control systems. But nevertheless, I am going to continue to do that, although I expect that most people will continue to deliberately ignore that, including that the ruling classes will also be able to deliberately ignore that.

After all, the mass media continue to almost totally promote the biggest bullies' bullshit world view, in ways which deliberately ignore all of the material that authors like George Washington research and present. Overall, the established systems of wars based on deceits, backing up debt slavery systems, are not being effectively resisted. There is almost nothing but controlled opposition that appears to stand against them, and relatively little of that.

Probably, the only things that can actual stop the established systems from continuing is their own increasing insanities, causing their own self-destruction, without which there will not be any opportunities emerging for new systems to perhaps survive through that and emerge. In that context, I continue to promote my kind of political science fiction, which I like to try to make harder, rather than drift towards becoming more like political fantasies. However, I am promoting what could be described as the FRINGE CUBED position.

The mainstream position is that the official stories about 9/11, etc., are correct. The fringes of that are the shades of possible alternative views about the degree of deceits behind the official stories. George Washington's articles are what I regard as the first fringe, which are interpretations that more mainstream people could entertain, without going through too severe cognitive dissonance. Many of the people who post comments on Zero Hedge present the fringe of that fringe, or the fringe squared positions. While I like to think that I present a more fully developed FRINGE CUBED position, as I have outlined above, being the basis for real, radical revolutions, that actually changed the combined money/murder systems to do those things in radically different ways, based upon profound paradigm shifts in the ways that those things were being perceived.

At the present time, the ONLY publicly recognized "solutions" to the existence of weapons of mass destruction is the MAD Mutual Assured Destruction policy, where several thousand nuclear weapons are kept on hair-triggers. Meanwhile, the MAD Money As Debt systems constantly drive the debt slavery towards debt insanities, which threaten to provoke death insanities, whereby weapons of mass destruction could start being used, in ways which could quickly spin out of control ...

CENTRAL ISSUES continue to be the existence of weapons of mass destruction, which are trillions of times more powerful than anything else that were available before during known human history, and which therefore, have NOT been adapted to adequately. The first generation born into a world with an abundance of weapons of mass destruction is still alive today. The major decisions that have directed by own life, and so, all the career choices that I made, can be traced back to thinking about the existence of weapons of mass destruction, and how could human beings operate their murder systems after the development of those weapons, which then leads on to the recognition that since money is measurement backed by murder, changing the monetary systems is directly related and inseparable from changing the murder systems.

Anyone who bothers to look at the social facts will surely discover that the debt controls ARE backed by the death controls. Those who do enough research discover that the established systems that dominate civilization now are debt slavery, backed by wars based on deceits, where "war is a racket" where most of the wars were the banksters' wars, whereby control over natural resources was sought by control over the public "money" supply. After one faces that basic social facts that the debt controls are backed by the death controls, it is NOT possible to avoid the issues regarding how the real death control systems actually work.

My discourse is the result of my own efforts to best understand how the world really works, and what is really happening. Tragically, my current conclusions are that civilization has become terminally crazy and corrupt, and therefore, I am probably wasting my time to try to promote more radical truths. But nevertheless, I continue to amuse myself by doing so, bolstered by my own vainglorious sense of intellectual integrity. Therefore, VWAndy, I have no intention of stopping, although I surely will eventually be forced to stop, sooner or later, in one way or another ...

 

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 20:28 | 6168254 VWAndy
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. Change is happening the question is the dirrection of it. Many things are possible.It comes down to will. So yes better death controls are possible. 

 

 

Fri, 06/05/2015 - 12:56 | 6167071 VWAndy
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Six down votes ay.

 Looking forward to reading their take on death controls.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 23:24 | 6165511 roddy6667
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Ever notice that ISIS, even though allegedly radical Muslims, never attack Israel, only it's enemies?

Makes ya wonder.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 22:19 | 6165349 Kina
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The US credibility so bad now days that many just wont believe whatever it is they say, in fact when it comes to the ME they will think it lies first.

 

Syria supporting ISIS is like Syria supporting its suicide.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 22:39 | 6165401 sun tzu
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America's War of Terror continues

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 21:56 | 6165288 swmnguy
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Sorry; duplicate post.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 21:56 | 6165287 swmnguy
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The beauty of the Brzezinski/Wolfowitz strategy is that it doesn't require military success or even competence.  We don't want to invade, conquer and occupy as the Limeys did; that's expensive and imposes responsibilities.  All we want to do is create utter chaos on top of strategic resources, along critical trade routes, and on the perimeter of Russia, China and the EU.  "Winning" doesn't matter; it's actually bad.  If the worst monsters in the region prevent anybody else from doing anything constructive, nothing will get done unless overwhelming force is brought to bear by the only country on Earth which can project that kind of power anywhere at any time.  Control over the spigots is controlled by the US, putting all potential rivals at our mercy as need be.  This kind of power survives after financial systems collapse.

It also doesn't matter if the story makes any sense.  It's better if it makes no sense at all, actually.  That way, who actually controls the situation is harder for most people to discern.

 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 20:09 | 6164970 windcatcher
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It is well documented that the Bush administration used torture to gain false confession to justify the Iraq war. The Obama administration is no different; they use the FBI to gain false terrorist threats to justify their war of terrorism.

Today, the fascist (merger of corporate monopoly with government) Washington Empire of Debt, Fraud and Chaos is using secret trade agreements (TPP) that are not trade related to further their criminal activity. Makes you proud to be American doesn’t it?

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 19:38 | 6164874 Shitgum Suicide
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Windcatcher- I didn't know george bush and the Neocons were secretly negotiating this trade deal. Also why is it the this clown GW glances over the Clinton administration and the democrats who were so willing and eager to invade Iraq but somehow it's only george bush, dcmmcheney and Donald Rumsfeld are the liars hmmmmm?

This is what I mean by completing the circle of info and history as to give a full picture of events rather than narrowly focusing on one administration and political party. It shows the dishonesty of those who engage in this type of rhetoric and PROPAGANDA of disinformation.

Why is it that every democrat demonized Bush for not connecting the dots of terrorism yet look who it is that can't call Muslim terrorists terrorist and are allowing them to gain a foothold everywhere in the world inuding here?

And don't give me this controlled opposition crap or false left right paradigm shit that peoe who have no answer engage in!

Just like GW answers his critics by showing their time in service at ZH. Because they have no answer or comeback of fact so they resort to adhominem attacks.

I've offered him an opportunity to respond to my criticism and he is silent as mice on Christmas Eve.

Answer that then get back to me eh!

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 19:54 | 6164929 windcatcher
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In reply to shit for brains: It is already well established that you are a mental case. On one of GW’s posts you racked up 85 down votes but that doesn’t daunt a nut job like you, now does it?

You have about as much self-awareness and humility as a dog taking a shit in public. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:32 | 6164647 windcatcher
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The Washington Empire of Debt, Fraud and Chaos are the same group of criminals as the Bush administration. As the criminals become more successful, they also become brazen with their criminality, hence; secret trade agreement that is not trade related. A complacent, decadent society begets criminal, decadent leaders. It’s no wonder that the rest of the world hate Americans.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:31 | 6164641 Shitgum Suicide
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Btw you never seem to mention Pakistan and A. Q. Khan and his Muslim nuclear bomb that he created. Who do you think gave that technology to Itan, Syria, and the Norks?

You only give one side to paint a specific picture that America lied to go to war in itQ but you never mention the rest of the stories that would make that claim invalid.

As I've sad before, 9/11 was done by multiple states including nuclear powers such as Pakistan and Russia. What do think would happen if the full truth came out about the conspirators and the option was to attack them? It would mean Nuclear war and the end of all of us.

Iraq had many strategic implications including confronting Russia, Iran and Pakistan with one blow.

Again this is why I will hound you until you admit your deceptions and change that avatar cuz George Washington you are not.

I recently went to Mount Rushmore and that bust of George Washington is more real than your sorry ass!!!

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:19 | 6164597 Shitgum Suicide
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Once again, and no suprise here, you try to assert facts from allegations or themes proposed by Unidentified sources that suggest or try to put forth that Rumsfeld said five hours after 9/11 that he wanted to attack saddam. Don't bother to mention that both time magazine and Newsweek made the same claim that saddam was possibly behind the attacks. N

Not to mention the oil for food program which was as corrupt as anything else the UN does was shown that funds from that program were connected to the attackers.

Also bob Woodward recently corrected the assertion that bush pushed the WMD claim in his book and lied about Iraq WMD.

That fact that you only make the claims to assert bush lied and not give the rest of the information that is readily available from credible news sources and not some hack site called rawstory.com is just another example of your dishonesty andack of integrity.

You are a gutless coward and I'll be here day in and day out until you recant, correct the record and/or go away with your bullshit name and avatar.

My challenge is still on the table any day you want to go toe to toe. But you won't as I have stated many times because you are a coward.

Or maybe you are just a bot. So many discrepancies, so little credibility.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:06 | 6164563 kchrisc
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They lie about everything. Why would they lie about this?

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 21:24 | 6164550 VW Nerd
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Sadly, the Bush Sr. administration and every administration since have known that with little effort, the majority of the US population can be made to believe ANYTHING.  Most are too lazy and.or indifferent to learn the truth.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:10 | 6164181 Billy Sol Estes
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More worried our embassy has a twitter account.

 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:29 | 6164246 sgt_doom
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There is but ONE QUESTION everyone should be asking.

It appears obvious now that ISIS was Saddam's Revenge:  remember those stories suggesting the Iraqi strategy was to blend into the surrounding area, and then attack the occupying forces?

Well, fundamentally, this is what they did, first with forming the al Qaeda branch in Iraq, next with the ISIS formation.

We know that the CIA and Unocal funded and armed the Taliban and al Qaeda in Afghanistan in the late 1990s, and blew off the leader of the Northern Alliance, Ahmad Shah Massoud, who was assassinated by al Qaeda suicide bombers posing as journalists, several days prior to 09/11/01. (I wonder if it was with the CIA's blessing?  After all, Mr. Massoud would have lived to say he had tried to warn us --- didn't he pass along the evidence and warning of an impending terrorist strike on US soil to DIA analyst, Julie Sirrs, who then returned to America and was promptly forced out of the DIA by its then director, Gen. Patrick Hughes?)

The ONE QUESTION?  Did the American government under President Obama knowingly finance and arm Saddam's former fedayeen and Republican Guard to overthrow Syria's Assad, or did they really believe them to be "Syrian rebels"?

[FYI:  They appear to be following a script/prediction by Nostrodamus, who even mentions the Levant and the New Caliphate, and I suspect this isn't any coincidence or accident.]

Highly Recommended Reading:

The Utopia of Rules, by David Graeber

The New Prophets of Capital, by Nicole Aschoff

Open Secret: The Global Banking Conspiracy That Swindled Investors Out of Billions, by Erin Arvedlund

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 19:04 | 6164768 Duc888
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Sgt Doom: It appears obvious now that ISIS was Saddam's Revenge:

 

 

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/06/02/declassified-pentagon-report-us-...

 

 

 

 

 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:32 | 6163996 Tall Tom
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Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:21 | 6163966 Hannibal
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America’s Plans to Use Nuclear Weapons against the Middle East
 
Unconfirmed reports based on a video release dated May 20, 2015 point to a massive and unprecedented bomb explosion in Yemen.

The reports suggest without corroborating evidence that the explosion could have been the result of a nuclear strike, using a tactical nuclear weapon. There is no evidence to that effect.

Whatever the nature of this explosion, it constitutes a crime against humanity.

While there is no concrete evidence that the US led alliance has used nukes against Yemen, the broader issue of nuclear war against the Middle is, nonetheless, of utmost relevance.

 Washington’s nuclear agenda as defined by the 2001 Nuclear Posture Review (2001) consists in developing its tactical nuclear arsenal for use against non-nuclear States. 

Since 2002, US-NATO tactical nuclear weapons targeting the Middle East are fully deployed.

Tactical nuclear weapons or so-called “mini-nukes” are bunker buster bombs equipped with a nuclear warhead. Their explosive capacity (e.g. the B61-11) varies between one third and six times a Hiroshima bomb.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-war-on-yemen-americas-plans-to-use-nucl...

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 15:28 | 6163990 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Unconfirmed.... without concrete evidence...etc.   So basically you're spreading a rumour- nice - wtf

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 18:07 | 6164566 daedon
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Haven't you the heard rumors that the recession was over ?


Was there a recession ?
Thu, 06/04/2015 - 14:49 | 6163821 tlnzz
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Our Government of liars and secrets can't remember all the lies they told.

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 14:21 | 6163718 p00k1e
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This article illustrates the problem with the Internet.

The War Lies from the last war are still fresh and haven’t left recent conscience.    

Syria is gonna blow-out the Belmont Stakes!!!  "American Pharoah" is a sign. 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 14:19 | 6163709 SmittyinLA
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Yep here's photographic proof of all those Syrian made vehicles https://www.google.com/search?q=ISIS+truck+column&es_sm=93&source=lnms&t...

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 14:17 | 6163702 SmittyinLA
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I'm not from Syria, never been there, don't know any Syrians but ....."The Syrian government - which is allied with Shia Muslims

I think that statement is total bullshit

Syria map of religion http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/08/27/the-one-map...

 

Thu, 06/04/2015 - 16:31 | 6164263 sgt_doom
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SmuttyinLA,

Dood, they are allied with Iran and Hezbollah --- that's Shi'a land, guy!

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