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China Blasts Washington's "Irresponsible", "Groundless" Hacking Allegations
It should come as no surprise that reports of cyber attacks are on the rise since the Pentagon announced its new cyber strategy (which includes the use of “offensive” cyberattacks when necessary) at the end of April.
Since the announcement by Defense Secretary Ash Carter, the following cyber ‘events have occurred’: Penn State reports hackers have been stealing data from the university’s DoD-affiliated engineering department for years (blamed on Chinese hacker spies), the IRS says at least 10,000 tax returns have been compromised (blamed on “Russian organized crime syndicates”), and, on Thursday evening, Washington reports what may end up being the largest data breach in history (blamed on China).
As noted last month, these events represent a remarkable step up the cyber attack accusation ladder compared to Washington’s attempt to blame North Korea for cyber-sabotaging James Franco and Seth Rogen last year.
Cynics might even be compelled to say that when a government has just issued a sweeping directive on how it plans to deploy cyber weapons going forward, it helps to be able to point to instances of supposedly serious breaches as justification for an “offensive” strategy.
One is also left to wonder if it’s any coincidence that just four days ago, one of Washington’s closest allies reported a massive data breach in its pension system that exposed 1.25 million citizens to prying eyes. That revelation came just a little over a month after Japanese PM Shinzo Abe made a thinly-veiled reference to Chinese hacking in an April speech to US lawmakers.
Correlation does not equal causation, but one can hardly ignore the number of supposedly “serious” cyberattacks that have occurred in the wake of the DoD’s stepped up cyber strategy.
One the heels of last night’s accusations, China has now responded, calling the US allegations “groundless” and “irresponsible.” Here’s NBC with more:
China accused the United States of making "groundless accusations" and being "irresponsible" Friday in blaming Chinese hackers for a vast data breach that could be the biggest cyberattack in U.S. history.
Four million federal workers may have had their personal information compromised in the attack, which officials said could affect every agency of the U.S. government.
U.S. officials and lawmakers identified the likely culprit as China, which has been suspected of involvement in previous government hacks.
Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said the hack was "extremely sophisticated," and "that points to a nation state" as the responsible party, likely China.
However, China's foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei told NBC News that it was very hard to prove who was responsible for cyber attacks.
"Without the thorough investigation, you jump to a conclusion so quickly. We think it is not scientific and
is irresponsible."
Between these latest allegations and the rheotric surrounding China's land reclamation efforts in the Spratly archipelago, Beijing is quickly learning that when it comes to accusations, Washington isn't always concerned about whether or not the official line is based in reality.
US foreign policy is self-serving to the extreme, and if a narrative needs to be spun to shape public perception and rally support against certain state and non-state actors, that narrative will be crafted, irrespective of factual concerns.
This strategy plays well in a unipolar world.
We shall see how effective it is against a multipolar geopolitical backdrop.
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We bull shitted some folks
smoke & mirrors . . . . . .
This hack happened some months ago, and we're just hearing about it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/chinese-hackers-br...
Methinks US government has found out that NSA employees are selling data on the side and needed a cover story.
I know for a fact that local municipalities are under constant attack mostly, at least according to the Firewall logs originating from China and Eastern Europe. Now that being said it isn't too difficult these days to bounce around the net to hide your origin.
We have got it right many times.
Sadam assad. Ukraine
But we should take them at their word....ok?
Groundless? I THINK NOT.... I must get 40 Bejing IPs hitting my firewall a minute....
(It's been that way for a long long time too folks, it's true...)
http://globaleconomicwarfare.com/2011/01/unrestricted-warfare/
Unrestricted Warfareby KEVIN D. FREEMAN on JANUARY 14, 2011
The book “Unrestricted Warfare” was published by the PLA press in 1999 and outlines the Chinese strategy to counter U.S. power. The doctrine clearly states that a direct kinetic conflict would be less effective than irregular warfare. An introduction to the English version (translated by CIA and published in Panama) lists Financial Warfare as the first and foremost mechanism to attack the United States:
“‘Financial warfare (in which a country is subjected without a drop of blood being spilled)’ means entering and subverting banking and stock markets and manipulating the value of a targeted currency.”
There should be zero doubt that the Chinese have this capability right now both through conventional and cyber means. The frightening thing is that the PLA has, in itself, more than sufficient resources to accomplish this financial warfare. There may even be emerging evidence that such capabilities have been effectively tested. Frighteningly, the Chinese are not alone in this capability. Most major nations and a variety of Middle Eastern Sovereign Wealth Funds have the capacity including those under Shariah Finance as well as jihadist groups. There is even evidence that jihadists have thoroughly studied the action plan of Unrestricted Warfare including bin Laden, who has publicly declared that hitting “the economic structure” is the best means to defeat the United States.
(more at the links)
http://globaleconomicwarfare.com/2015/06/this-is-unrestricted-warfare-wh...
After reading http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-04/meet-nsac-us-governments-shadow-spy-agency, I got to thinking that maybe I should start my own spy agency and sell information to the USgovt. It's a growth industry! We could all start our own spy agencies! Imagine how quickly we could solve the world's unemployment problems when we all have our own contract spying for USgovt! I currently have no experience or resources, but that shouldn't be a problem. All I need is a contract and I can buy all the resources and experienced people that I need. Let's all get jobs spying for USgovt! Err... be contractors, not employees. I hear contractors get paid more. Economic problems solved! Jobs galore! World Peas!!!
Or perhaps we could all work for the SEC. I wonder if we can convince them to keep hiring till all the HFTrading disappears. Then again, I'm not sure if I could even watch that much porn ...
Step one, watch your neighbor vigilently and report any suspicious activity.
Step two, explain to the spooks that are investigating you, due to your neighbor reporting you, that you are working for them.
Step three, after two or more years in a brutal FEMA camp, step into your countoured neck holder and shut your eyes.
Oh, you're soooooooooooooooooooo realistic, I mean, negative! I was thinking of being paid by the hour, not by performance! Yep! Any minute now, I'm gonna start spying and you'll start seeing a return on your investment ... soon ... any second now ..., hang on, I just need some more money ...
Yeah, realistically, you'll just nominate anyone as a "threat", then the govt goons will look at that person's net assets, and if they like what they see, they'll take it. And you'll be the starrrrrrrr witness. No need for evidence - the defendant is a terrrrrst!
Pr0n? No problemo...
A dog ate my homework. No? I mean, a dog hacked my computer ... I mean, it was the North Koreans, I mean the Russians, I mean, the Chinese ... When does Syria get a turn? ISIS? India? Eeeek! Next up, India hackers on US soil ...
In a totally unrelated story:
US sends all manufacturing to China.
US hires foreign computer programmers.
US charges exhorbitant fees and loans to US citizens if they want to learn how to program computers. Very hard to get access to decent information.
US blames every other country in the world for hacking computers????? You gotta be shitting me! What can I say? If you don't want to smell like shit, then stop playing in the septic tank. I don't believe the US has a hacking problem but if they did then they are the stupid fuckwits that brought it on themselves. Oh yes, let's rely on the internet for everything! It's totally, 100% safe and secure, except we have all these foreign hackers that we can't stop becoz they are so sneaky ... if the US choose to be that dumb then they deserve what they allege they are getting. I have ZERO sympathy. Or I would have zero sympathy if I believed they really had a hacking problem.
Then again, do the people that wrote the ObamaCare code have the contract for computer security?
Nup. I still got no sympathy. Or belief.
A dog ate my homework.
A cat ate my mouse.
Eeeek! Hackers! The little guy has an excuse: Good information is hard to find. Corporations and govt have NO excuse. There is NO WAY to avoid the fact that THEY created the mess ... if it actually exists.
Next up:
I pulled a dog by the tail and it bit me!
I left my keys in my Ferrari and the motor running and when I came back someone had driven it really fast and crashed it!
I underpaid the mechanic and hurled insults at him and now my car blows smoke!
(No I can't explain why the teeth marks look human, only my fingerprints are on the steering wheel, the big oil patch in my garage and my greasy hands ...)
Great lets have a virtual world war, you steal my data and we'll stuxnet you.
as soon as I heard about the supposed hacking being blamed on the chinese the entire room began smelling like a cow pasture.
It's the old "Stun Them With Stupidity Trick": You say something that is so obviously wrong on so many different levels that your opponents are stunned into silence because they can't figure out which falsehood to attack first.
One of my ex-bosses operated that way. I was never sure whether to laugh at him, get angry at him, ignore him or explain what was wrong ... I was stunned into silence.
Next up, US gives China an AK, smacks China in the head, then shoots themselves with a M16 but blames China ...
... nothing I say quite captures the stupidity in action here ...
The Bush/Obama Administration official response to the Chinese military's latest hack:
We need to offshore even more jobs, technology and investment to China!
And pass that Trans-Pacific Partnership, so we can offshore further jobs, technology and investment to Vietnam and Malaysia, so they can hack us as well!
whatever... what did we think China was going to say? "Oh yeah, we fucking did it... so now what? Huh? Fucking round eye bring it on!"
no, they'll send out some diplomat to say the weak shit you see being said here... well, color me surprised
You can tell by his bottom teeth that he did not grow up under favorable conditions. What I know is that I have no way of knowing but by the "intelligence" spokesperson's comment that a nation state seems to be classified by her as an enemy to the NWO I would have to say that she hates the nation state of the United States of America.
China false flags begin.
China in the news more than Russia recently.
I wonder why?
a week of China
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
Hipocracy....is that spelt with twp ps?
Anyways, th efrigging world knows about the fact that the US has had an iron grip on the underpinnings of the interwebz since their inception.
Don't believe me? Ask Al Gore.
From domain name control on down. Plus, if any hedgers have not heard of the PROMIS scandal, I highly recommend a quick search, Danny Cosalauro (I think that is how hiis name is spelt).
Just that, PROMIS and this whole bullshipt kabuki exchange just falls flat on it's face.
China says, US Says, Ukraine does....what a bunch of bernaysnian hooey!
......
Moozik....floot....reggae...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaZcFjEOr2s
Poor Danny, he too was in the throws of severe de-pression.
IIRC, swimming accident wasn't it?
Aren't all suicided people depressed? It's a standing joke....and Danny Died "mysteriously" in his hotel room...
Kind of like ol Vince Foster, two shots to the head suicide was it?
If you call slitting yer wrists in a bathtub swimming...
US was illegally collecting about 100 billion pieces of intelligence a month per Snowden - and that was years ago.
But then that is a legitimate right of a hegemon - as is droning women and children and wedding parties, along with double-tap droning.
Forward
ROFLMAO! Yeah sure China, whatever. Everybody hacks everybody else.
It's like people and sex, everyone is fucking everyone else and most of it is not "safe sex".
FYI - absolutely nothing on the Internet or connected to it is safe, NOTHING.
Commerce is "safe" but govt and corps get hacked every five minutes ... yeah, right. How terribly convenient ...
This just in:
"Temporarily furloughed NSA workers, working for free out of love for country, have intercepted blaspemous language about the US from Chinese telephone calls. Potential sake bombings are expected to take place."
You're welcome America.
Sincerely,
Bibi Netanyahu
In the USA an undercover cop (a travesty in itself) watches a man murdered and doesn't do a damn thing to stop it.
People are enamored with men wanting to dress and look like women after retirement age.
The government is proved to be lying and corrupt.
Obama said "We tortured some folks"
Hillery once mentioned "Obliterating Iran"
Israel blasted the USS Liberty out of the water and the US covered it up.
Anthrax is shipped to various places.
Maybe China is right in this rebuttal.
And the feds want to regulate the Internet. What could possibly go wrong with that plan?
Later on we will find out the hacking was done by Israel.By the way fuck Israel.
They dont have to hack we give them all the info they want on a silver platter.
The dog ate it. Place blame on the bogeyman and don't investigate locally.
"US foreign policy is self-serving to the extreme, and if a narrative needs to be spun to shape public perception and rally support against certain state and non-state actors, that narrative will be crafted, irrespective of factual concerns."
The above paragraph should be copied/pasted, used for educational purposes, or otherwise disseminated, WIDELY.
"This strategy plays well in a unipolar world."
Yes, it does - but it is also part of a well crafted plan, long in the making for Full Spectrum Dominance of the global geopolitical sphere, otherwise known as 'PNAC'...
"We shall see how effective it is against a multipolar geopolitical backdrop."
Depends largely on what one's definitions/expectations of 'effective' are. To the 'Continuity of Government' crowd, 'effectiveness' in this regard basically means - 'Balls Deep', or, as Martin Sheen would say: 'Gentleman, the missiles are flying - Hallelujah'...
What zh won't say- this cripples us, or should I say "we" more than any of the previous hackings ever did, unless of course they release that the pentagon was completely hacked.
Hacking the pentagon would be the balls,then hand all the data to wikileaks.
I'm curious to see how China deals with Japan over the summer. The yen has been devalued by just a few ticks under 60%, from the 75.00 low to the current price just under the 126.00 level.
Maybe the Chinese will sell the hell out of it like OPEC with oil, and crush the Japanese bond market.
Of course it is groundless, it is all bullshit, just stop complaining and start the war so this goverment can hide all the lies in the bamking sytem and have you to blame!
Kabuki.
We've been sold to china...LBO
Chinese anchor babies...numerous other tells.
Got to stir up the fear porn.
OT: anyone seen this media feeding frenzy on the Duggars? Kinda funny the amount of press just b4 that NSA votin Hastert being exposed.
Excellent points, WG, and well articulated, something I've been endeavoring to explain to people since those two national immigration marches took place some years back --- each time warrantless wiretapping was news story #1, and each time they knocked them off the front storyline.
Checked to see how they were organized --- by Spanish-language radio stations, all owned then by the Blackstone Group.
Now, take this train crash which occurred just around the time of the TPP vote in the Senate --- their systems (and their onboard, but officially yet-to-be-activated Postive Train Control) are from ARINC, during the time it was owned by the Carlyle Group.
Farfetched? Just observe the patterns, the interconnections, then the meta-pattern.
Geez, there's a blast from my past.
Forgot all about ARINC.
Patterns everywhere.
All you have to do is open your eyes.
I put up a server a couple of weeks ago, within literally 90 seconds seemingly every IP address on hinet was attempting to relay mail off of it, at the rate of many attempts per second. Attempts have not stopped for a microsecond since.
This is not to say Washington is telling the truth, they almost certainly are not. But the Chinese are totally full of shit also, they are effectively in a perpetual cyberwar mode and have been for a long time. Anything on the net that is exploitable will be exploited by them.
If I had to bet I'd say that some rogue H1-B contractor probably did it.
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Welcome to the internet. No need to feel that your server is special, because every device with a public IPv4 address (in other words, excluding RFC1918 private addresses and 224.0.0.0/3 multicast addresses) is continually subjected to a wide variety of automated scans and attacks. If your server has SMTP listening on TCP port 25, you can expect additional hammering from spambots.
Simple logic reaps a lot from an assumption made at start. It is simple logic based on US citizen assumption that the IP addresses hammering your server are the sources of the attacks. The vast majority of these addresses are in fact conduits for the attacks. You only see the last link in the command chain. Most of the attacking machines are likely to be desktop/laptop systems running old and/or unpatched versions of Windows which are infested with malware. They are unwitting members of vast armies of remotely controlled botnet zombies.
The locations and identities of the botnet controllers are nearly impossible to determine (even for the US government) because it requires the quick and effective communication and cooperation between the authorities at every hop in the proxy chain. Knowing this, the botnet controllers channel their commands across a chain of multiple proxies which cross numerous national boundaries and language barriers, and they can rearrange these chains whenever they want.
When your hear anyone blaming a particular nation as a source of attacks, they'd better have more to go on than the IP addresses of the apparent source(s). Otherwise it is just an exercise in scapesgoating.
Negative, Sanity Bear, for once in his life, John McCain is correct when he shouts that it was done from a specific address of China's military intelligence group.
But soo fucking what?
They (the super-rich and their corporations) have offshored all the jobs, technology and investment to China (and elsewhere) and of course they expected this to occur (it is a totalitarian capitalist state, after all), so then they can scream for more "defense" monies.
Fucking bitchez who deserve the guillotine now!
Now come on, our accusations are based upon facts. These facts were carefully obtained and verified through, Geoffrey Pyatt, Victoria Nuland and Ukrainian intelligence and presented on a youtube video.
China is a known hacker and is obviously guilty and Russia has also invaded Ukraine.
China blasts? Did they all shout it simultaneously?
We could begin to encourage personal responsibility by attributing things to individuals rather than general groups. The best place to hide for sociopaths is the large group, where responsilibility can be diffused harmlessly among the masses.
you cant make this up, on the GBS Geriatric Broadcasting System (Bob Schieffer retires, Charely Rose takes over) they said, its not clear if the Chinese government was directly responsible, or hackers inside China who are working for the government...
Download the motherload of Intel. We will take it to the next level of corruption in WH.
Each taxpayer financed Government employees will wish they never took on the assignment to internally fuck over the citizens of United States of America. Don't count on immunity. We'll let J6P decide your fate.
In addition, this move is a WH movational tactic to bring China to the TPP negotiating table for TPP alliance.
Yet, if you read the newest 17 allotments of treaty. They talk about transparency without releasing the documents to United States of America. Sounds a bit like a double edged sword.
https://wikileaks.org/tisa/
The US can motivate all they want for the TPP, but Chinese aren't stupid enough to give up their sovereignty to corporations.
1995 Agreement regarding Intellectual Property Rights between ...
Slick Willy for WTO.
Who the puck* is this "China" guy and when & where did he say that?
*Note12.2 autocorrect No cussing allowed fun king Samsung
China's our butch* we got 40 B a month saying so.
*bucking Samsung
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/1994/04/ending-the-confusion-in...
1994 Clinton EO
Why would China want to hack into federal employee files to get information about a bunch of overpaid clowns who sit around all day surfing internet porn sites?
Barry's passport is Paki, Hildabeast & Yellen to star in lesbo porn
This is just positioning. Getting . Gov employed ready for the coming troubles with china. As the global economy collapses, it's Gona get nasty. At some point . Gov Gona have to cut gov jobs. China , the Russians want have a idea who the weak sistas in . Gov are as well who makes up deep state.
China's our butch* we got 40 B a month saying so.
*bucking Samsung
I noticed China didn't say "false".
"Between these latest allegations and the rheotric surrounding China's land reclamation efforts in the Spratly archipelago, Beijing is quickly learning that when it comes to accusations, Washington isn't always concerned about whether or not the official line is based in reality."
China knows that. Just check China's history of "relations" with the West, and how she's been horribly victimized and preyed upon when she was too weak to defend herself. She knows very precisely what kind of amoral predators and carrion-eaters she is dealing with.
If I were China's president, I'd call Ash Carter's bluff and reply:
"Yes we spied on you, so what? You spy on us, we spy on you, that's how it always was, that's how it is and that's how it's probably going to be till the end of times. What would you like to do about it: invade us and occupy 1.3 bn Chinese? Or, failing that, nuke our entire planet earth into oblivion? Come on Ashy, grow up, US Empire is at the verge of collapse and you know it. You better start behaving accordingly."
Then again, maybe the Chinese are wiser to not poke the psychotic bald eagle. It shows signs of becoming a suicide bomber.
Chinese are smart and patient. As Sun Tzu said- "Man who seeks revenge should dig two graves"
What's funny is they both spy on and hack each other, it seems Chinese just better at it
Take heart, ZHers. Director of OPM Katherine Archuleta is on the case. In addition to being a wise latina, she was Obummers national political director for the '12 coronation, er, election, in addition to being a veteran community organizer.
According to Kathy, protecting the personal data of our federal overlords is Job #1.
Of course they're spying, its what they do. While its not always easy to determine exact source IP locations, I'm sure they know which gateway NAP router the attack ceme from. Its not rocket science.
MSN broadcast Rules:
1. Never be dull.
2. Embrace willfully ignorant simplicity.
3. The American public is stupid; treat them that way.
4. Always ignore the facts and the public record when it is covenient to do so.