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Forget the TPP: Wikileaks Releases Documents From The Equally Shady “Trade in Services Agreement"

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By Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg

Forget the TPP – Wikileaks Releases Documents from the Equally Shady “Trade in Services Agreement,” or TISA

If it sounds complicated, it is. The important point is that this trade agreement contains a crucial discussion of governments’ abilities to meaningfully protect civil liberties. And it is not being treated as a human rights discussion. It is being framed solely as an economic issue, ignoring the implications for human rights, and it is being held in a classified document that the public is now seeing months after it was negotiated, and only because it was released through WikiLeaks.

 

The process is also highly secretive—in fact, trade agreement texts are classified. While the executive branch does consult with members of Congress, even congressional staffers with security clearance have until recently been prevented from seeing the texts. Furthermore, certain trade industry advisers are allowed access to U.S. negotiating objectives and negotiators that the public and public interest groups do not have

     – From the Slate article: Privacy Is Not a Barrier to Trade

If you haven’t heard about about the Trade in Services Agreement, aka TISA, don’t worry, you’re not alone. While I had heard of it before, I never read anything substantial about it until today. What sparked my reading interest on the subject were a series of very troubling articles published via several media outlets following a document dump by Wikileaks. Here’s how the whistleblower organization describes the TISA leak on it document release page:

WikiLeaks releases today 17 secret documents from the ongoing TISA (Trade In Services Agreement) negotiations which cover the United States, the European Union and 23 other countries including Turkey, Mexico, Canada, Australia, Pakistan, Taiwan & Israel — which together comprise two-thirds of global GDP. “Services” now account for nearly 80 per cent of the US and EU economies and even in developing countries like Pakistan account for 53 per cent of the economy. While the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) has become well known in recent months in the United States, the TISA is the larger component of the strategic TPP-TISA-TTIP ‘T-treaty trinity’. All parts of the trinity notably exclude the ‘BRICS’ countries of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. 

I’ve covered the extreme dangers of what’s colloquially known as trade “fast track” authority previously. In the post, As the Senate Prepares to Vote on “Fast Track,” Here’s a Quick Primer on the Dangers of the TPP, I noted:

 

Passing this corporate giveaway masquerading as a “free trade deal” is a lengthy process; a process that begins today with a Senate vote on Trade Promotion Authority (TPA), also known as “fast track.”  Passing TPA would be Congress agreeing to neuter itself to a yes or no vote on a trade pact and ceding its power to amend it. Even worse, it would give trade deals this expedited process for six years, thus outlasting the current Administration, and applying to other “trade” deals like the TTIPMind you, TPA is being voted on while the TPP text remains completely hidden from the public.

Naturally, “fast track” ultimately passed through the corrupt, rancid body known as the U.S. Senate despite the best efforts of people such as Elizabeth Warren to stop it. As noted in the above paragraph, fast track isn’t just about the TPP, it covers other deals already well in the works such as TTIP and TISA. Makes you wonder whether these other deals are even worse.

For more information on TISA, let’s turn to the Huffington Post:

The latest leak purports to include 17 documents from negotiations on the Trade In Services Agreement, a blandly named trade deal that would cover the United States, the European Union and more than 20 other countries. More than 80 percent of the United States economy is in service sectors.

 

According to the Wikileaks release, TISA, as the deal is known, would take a major step towards deregulating financial industries, and could affect everything from local maritime and air traffic rules to domestic regulations on almost anything if an internationally traded service is involved.

 

The pact would be one of three enormous deals whose passage through Congress could be eased with passage of Trade Promotion Authority, also known as fast-track authority. The Senate has passed fast-track, and it could be taken up in the House this month.

 

“Today’s leaks of TISA (trade in services) text reveal once again how dangerous Fast Track Authority is when it comes to protecting citizen rights vs. corporate rights,” he added. “This TISA text again favors privatization over public services, limits governmental action on issues ranging from safety to the environment using trade as a smokescreen to limit citizen rights.”

 

The Office of the United States Trade Representative and top European officials have repeatedly denied that TISA or the Transatlantic deal would impact local laws, releasing a joint statement to that effect earlier this spring.

 

Still, the Wikileaks documents suggest that World Trade Organization-style tribunals would be expanded under TISA, and that such tribunals convened to resolve trade disputes can impact local laws. One such WTO tribunal ruled last month that the United States must repeal its laws requiring meat to be labeled with its country of origin, or face punitive tariffs on exports.

I covered this ruling a couple of weeks ago in the post: Congress Moves to Eliminate Labels Showing Consumers Where Meat Comes from Following WTO Ruling

Moving along to the UK Independent’s coverage of TISA:

Wikileaks has warned that governments negotiating a far-reaching global service agreement are ‘surrendering a large part of their global sovereignty’ and exacerbating the social inequality of poorer countries in the process.

 

The Trade in Services Agreement exposed in a 17 document dump by Wikileaks on Thursday relates to ongoing negotiations to lock market liberalizations into global law.

 

Under the agreement, retailers like Zara or Marks & Spencers would have the right to open stores in any of the signing countries and be treated like domestic companies. A nationalized service, such as the British telecoms industry in the eighties, would have to ensure it was not harming competition under these terms.

 

Wikileaks says that corporations would be able to use the law in its current form to hold sway over governments, deciding whether laws promoting culture, protecting the environment or ensuring equal access to services were ‘unnecessarily burdensome’, or whether knowledge of indigenous culture or public services was essential to achieve ‘parity’.

 

“In other words, unaccountable private ‘trade’ tribunals would decide how countries could regulate activities that are fundamental to social well-being,” Wikileaks said.

No wonder these deals are being keep so secret. Let’s now turn to Slate, which examined TISA’s potential threat to a human right that is increasingly under attack: personal privacy.

On Wednesday, WikiLeaks released the draft text of the biggest international agreement you’ve probably never heard of: the Trade in Services Agreement, or TISA. And buried in one of the 12 leaked chapters (which are mostly on things like “air transport services” and “competitive delivery services”) is a volatile and crucial debate about online privacy and the global Internet.

 

Trade agreements used to focus on things like tariffs, but they aren’t just about trade anymore. They consist of hundreds of chapters of detailed regulations, on subjects ranging from textiles to intellectual property law. TISA purports to promote fair and open global competition in services, thus increasing jobs. (You may have also heard about the Trans-Pacific Partnership, another trade agreement currently being negotiated and criticized. This one’s even more mammoth.) TISA is being negotiated between 23 countries representing some 75 percent of the global services market. Buried in its e-commerce annex are rules that will reshape the relationship between the free flow of information and online privacy.

 

The Internet is global, but privacy regulations incorporate localized norms. The U.S., for example, protects only some things, like your video-watching history and health information, while the European Union has a comprehensive framework for safeguarding far more information.

 

But TISA is different. The leaked draft language, proposed by the U.S. and several other countries, states that a government may not prevent a foreign services company “from transferring, [accessing, processing or storing] information, including personal information, within or outside the Party’s territory.” Essentially, this says that privacy protections could be treated as barriers to trade. This language could strike most privacy regulations as they apply to foreign companies—and not just in the EU. It would also apply to U.S. regulation of foreign companies at home. For instance, U.S. health privacy law requires patient consent for health information to be shared. This, technically, is a restriction on transferring information that could be invalidated by TISA, if nothing changes.  

 

The subject matter TISA covers is already governed by a global agreement called GATS, which has an exception for privacy protections. In other words, privacy protections are explicitly not treated as trade barriers in GATS. The leaked draft language from TISA shows that there is an ongoing debate between countries over whether to create an explicit privacy exception within TISA itself. The result of this debate is hugely important for states that want privacy laws.

 

If it sounds complicated, it is. The important point is that this trade agreement contains a crucial discussion of governments’ abilities to meaningfully protect civil liberties. And it is not being treated as a human rights discussion. It is being framed solely as an economic issue, ignoring the implications for human rights, and it is being held in a classified document that the public is now seeing months after it was negotiated, and only because it was released through WikiLeaks.

 

TISA’s contents are not all bad, and protection of an open global Internet through trade could theoretically be a good thing. But these fine points should be openly debated, not bartered away in an enormous agreement that bundles privacy together with maritime transport services.

 

The process is also highly secretive—in fact, trade agreement texts are classified. While the executive branch does consult with members of Congress, even congressional staffers with security clearance have until recently been prevented from seeing the texts. Furthermore, certain trade industry advisers are allowed access to U.S. negotiating objectives and negotiators that the public and public interest groups do not have.

 

Trade agreements governing civil liberties (and jobs, and the environment, and public health … ) need to receive meaningful input from the public and its real representatives—not after negotiations are concluded, not through a Congress hampered by excessive executive secrecy, and not through vague negotiating objectives that fail to meaningfully address human rights and other values.

 

Fast track just passed in the Senate. Senators including Bernie Sanders of Vermont, Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, and Sherrod Brown of Ohio tried to stop its passage but narrowly lost. Now, the vote is coming up in the House—maybe as soon as this week. About 2 million Americans have already signed a petition against the legislation. It would be sad indeed if one of the few times Congress decides to actually pass legislation, embrace bipartisanship, and show support of the president is a law that enables states to bargain away citizens’ freedoms behind closed doors.

Actually, it would’t be sad, it would make perfect sense. As George Carlin so accurately noted:

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Finally, from the New Republic:

On Wednesday, WikiLeaks brought this agreement into the spotlight by releasing 17 key TiSA-related documents, including 11 full chapters under negotiation. Though the outline for this agreement has been in place for nearly a year, these documents were supposed to remain classified for five years after being signed, an example of the secrecy surrounding the agreement, which outstrips even the TPP.

 

TiSA has been negotiated since 2013, between the United States, the European Union, and 22 other nations, including Canada, Mexico, Australia, Israel, South Korea, Japan, Norway, Switzerland, Turkey, and others scattered across South America and Asia. Overall, 12 of the G20 nations are represented, and negotiations have carefully incorporated practically every advanced economy except for the “BRICS” coalition of emerging markets (which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa).

 

The deal would liberalize global trade of services, an expansive definition that encompasses air and maritime transport, package delivery, e-commerce, telecommunications, accountancy, engineering, consulting, health care, private education, financial services and more, covering close to 80 percent of the U.S. economy. Though member parties insist that the agreement would simply stop discrimination against foreign service providers, the text shows that TiSA would restrict how governments can manage their public laws through an effective regulatory cap. It could also dismantle and privatize state-owned enterprises, and turn those services over to the private sector. You begin to sound like the guy hanging out in front of the local food co-op passing around leaflets about One World Government when you talk about TiSA, but it really would clear the way for further corporate domination over sovereign countries and their citizens.

 

You need to either be a trade lawyer or a very alert reader to know what’s going on. But between the text and a series of analyses released by WikiLeaks, you get a sense for what the countries negotiating TiSA want.

 

First, they want to limit regulation on service sectors, whether at the national, provincial or local level. The agreement has “standstill” clauses to freeze regulations in place and prevent future rulemaking for professional licensing and qualifications or technical standards. And a companion “ratchet” clause would make any broken trade barrier irreversible.

 

No restrictions could be placed on foreign investment—corporations could control entire sectors. 

 

Corporations would get to comment on any new regulatory attempts, and enforce this regulatory straitjacket through a dispute mechanism similar to the investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) process in other trade agreements, where they could win money equal to “expected future profits” lost through violations of the regulatory cap.

 

For an example of how this would work, let’s look at financial services. It too has a “standstill” clause, which given the unpredictability of future crises could leave governments helpless to stop a new and dangerous financial innovation. In fact, Switzerland has proposed that all TiSA countries must allow “any new financial service” to enter their market. So-called “prudential regulations” to protect investors or depositors are theoretically allowed, but they must not act contrary to TiSA rules, rendering them somewhat irrelevant.

 

Most controversially, all financial services suppliers could transfer individual client data out of a TiSA country for processing, regardless of national privacy laws. This free flow of data across borders is true for the e-commerce annex as well; it breaks with thousands of years of precedent on locally kept business records, and has privacy advocates alarmed.

 

That’s perhaps TiSA’s real goal—to pry open markets, deregulate and privatize services worldwide, even among emerging nations with no input into the agreement. U.S. corporations may benefit from such a structure, as the Chamber of Commerce suggests, but the impact on workers and citizens in America and across the globe is far less clear. Social, cultural, and even public health goals would be sidelined in favor of a regime that puts corporate profits first. It effectively nullifies the role of democratic governments to operate in the best interest of their constituents.

Basically, if you think the corporate-fascist state is overbearing and oppressive now, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

 

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Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:05 | 6170182 Brian
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ZH has ZERO credibility on the subject of Wikileaks anymore imo

Is this another clickbait thread?  I refuse to read it to find out.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:13 | 6170193 green sheen
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Thank you ZH is controlled opposition bullshit
https://youtu.be/Kk2UjixrnBg

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:15 | 6170198 williambanzai7
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Then what are you doing here?

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:58 | 6170291 ZerOhead
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I actually spent an hour or so trying to make sense of the TiSA in Financial Services yesterday.

It's complete lawyer gibberish.

Someday I'm going to write an Emergency Heart Defribrillator operation manual in legalese for the defibrilators they have in Law Offices and the Courts. 189 pages of "Party of the First part must first seek to be fully indemnified without due recourse by the Party of the Second part..." bullshit.

Let the fuckers die.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:02 | 6170298 ZerOhead
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And as I remember (now that I am off fluoride) the leg of the dude in the KPMG pants was kicking the guy in the China suit out.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 06:21 | 6171189 Multi
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"This TISA text again favors privatization over public services, limits governmental action on issues ranging from..."

And supposedly this is something bad, right?

If only it were true that they would do all that. Unfortunately, the more the words "free", "unregulated", and so on are in the text, the less the related law is actually about that.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 04:14 | 6171075 shouldvekilledthem
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Decentralize all the things! :)

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 20:46 | 6170526 dexter_morgan
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monitoring the non-opposition apparently

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 00:34 | 6170887 damicol
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That cock you wre sucking slipped out of your mouith.

Be sure to  suck more firmly from now on,

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:14 | 6170196 williambanzai7
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Begin with the fact that the subject of this post is not Wikileaks.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:16 | 6170202 Max Steel
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zh didnt write it.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:34 | 6170238 WTFUD
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Are you related to HilsenRat and got your copy of this post in advance? As i'm a fairly quick reader. Response time tells me you haven't read the post assHole.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:38 | 6170245 ZerOhead
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His response itself tells me he can't even read.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 08:54 | 6171344 doctor10
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TISA/TPP/TAP-all have a deliberately blurred intent with scope fully hidden from public view.

Imagine, if you will, an increasing number of people on planet earth-with fewer and fewer "warriors" and well-recognized and google earth located munitions plants.

It takes no small stretch of the imagination to perceive that in everybody's best interest, that different sovereign national legislatures would all agree on the need to outlaw weapons manufacturing and use.

These guys-the armaments manufacturers and warriors- have "war-gamed " this out and the TISA/TPP/TAP
is their "solution"

The other bits and pieces of the legislation are there to encourage all other wanna-be monopolies to get on board under the protection of the warriors.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:15 | 6170197 knukles
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We have to pass it to find out what's in it, because what's in it is top secret.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:22 | 6170214 VWAndy
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Wanna know the big secret?

 

 

 

They are planing to screw us.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:43 | 6170385 Cautionary Tale
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Fuck you both...

 

In a FUCKED UP society (as it is)... The only REDEEMABLE currency is 'fan support'... Whereby...

 

It's EASY to drop comments on ZH (as long as they aren't critical to JEWS), to GAIN currency...

 

Therefore... FUCK YOU ALL! (ask me how I know this if I don't get kicked off of ZH beforehand).

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 20:26 | 6170481 Tyranny is Love
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No they are not.

 

                     They are planning to kill everyone. Including each other.

 

 

 

Individually they each want to kill all the "usless" people below themselves. As this is the goal of the people at the top it effectivily means everyone (except themselves of cause, but they may off themselves for the hell of it).

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:21 | 6170209 Max Steel
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TPP/TTIP/TISA undermines WTO . Burn it down

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 08:41 | 6171326 Dindu Nuffins
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China never upheld its pledges to reform and liberalise, so its entry into WTO made the whole thing a sham.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:22 | 6170211 BlowsAgainstthe...
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"That’s perhaps TiSA’s real goal—to pry open markets, deregulate and privatize services worldwide, even among emerging nations with no input into the agreement. U.S. corporations may benefit from such a structure, as the Chamber of Commerce suggests, but the impact on workers and citizens in America and across the globe is far less clear. Social, cultural, and even public health goals would be sidelined in favor of a regime that puts corporate profits first. It effectively nullifies the role of democratic governments to operate in the best interest of their constituents."

No kidding . . . 

"Washington is the most important node of the Deep State that has taken over America, but it is not the only one. Invisible threads of money and ambition connect the town to other nodes. One is Wall Street, which supplies the cash that keeps the political machine quiescent and operating as a diversionary marionette theater. Should the politicians forget their lines and threaten the status quo, Wall Street floods the town with cash and lawyers to help the hired hands remember their own best interests. The executives of the financial giants even have de facto criminal immunity. On March 6, 2013, testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Attorney General Eric Holder stated the following: “I am concerned that the size of some of these institutions becomes so large that it does become difficult for us to prosecute them when we are hit with indications that if you do prosecute, if you do bring a criminal charge, it will have a negative impact on the national economy, perhaps even the world economy.” This, from the chief law enforcement officer of a justice system that has practically abolished the constitutional right to trial for poorer defendants charged with certain crimes. It is not too much to say that Wall Street may be the ultimate owner of the Deep State and its strategies, if for no other reason than that it has the money to reward government operatives with a second career that is lucrative beyond the dreams of avarice — certainly beyond the dreams of a salaried government employee."

http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/21/anatomy-of-the-deep-state/

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:50 | 6170405 THE 4th Quadrant
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Funding for Moyers & Company is provided by Anne Gumowitz; Carnegie Corporation of New York; Ford Foundation; The Herb Alpert Foundation, The John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation; Park Foundation; The Kohlberg Foundation; Barbara G. Fleischman; and by our sole corporate sponsor, Mutual of America.

Nice.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:22 | 6170213 SweetDoug
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"'Classified' trade agreement documents"

When can we use the word 'fascism'?

 

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Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:40 | 6170232 ZerOhead
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It's not fascism since it lacks the essential element of nationalism.

It's simply corporations helping government whores to help corporations. Think of it as Obamacare for the NWO.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 21:39 | 6170538 Tyranny is Love
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Fascism only required nationalism when governments were national, when governmental power is global, fascism requires globalism.

 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:51 | 6170275 BlowsAgainstthe...
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Recent manifestations of fascism, such as the European New Right and National Bolshevism, Griffin argues, have adapted to the post-1945 world in at least three significant ways. First, calls for "national rebirth" have become globalized, based less on the nation than on Western superiority or "white supremacy" (p. 51). Second, instead of using established political channels and processes to gain influence, recent fascists "have vacated the party-political space" and now focus more on "the battle for minds" (p. 51). Third, in contrast to the leader-centered, though still amorphous, structure of interwar fascist groups, today's global fascist movements lack centrality and are divided into small groups, resulting in "groupuscularization" and a "rhizomic" organizational structure (pp. 54-55). As he makes these distinctions between fascism past and present, however, Griffin emphasizes that adaptations of the New Right are not a complete departure from interwar fascism, but indicate instead an evolution of fascism: "Far from fading away to insignificance, fascism has displayed a vigorous Darwinian capacity for creative mutation" (p. 56). In sum, focusing on the "mythic core" of interwar fascism rather than on structural or stylistic characteristics such as the leader cult or militarism not only opens up discussions of fascism to include Nazism, it allows the recognition of an existing fascist threat as well.

 

https://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=15496

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:10 | 6170309 ZerOhead
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So it's the "White Supremicists" (p. 51) behind the NWO?

Shit... and here I thought it was the Global Financial Elite / Bankers behind the TiSA and TPP.

 

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 00:52 | 6170907 TheReplacement
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So people who want corpo-government control are of the right?  More like they are from just a smidgen to the right of outright communists but far left of everyone else.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:26 | 6170219 Skateboarder
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So when do the killer robot cops start herding people into 'districts'?

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:45 | 6170259 ZerOhead
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That's fully discussed in the TiSA section.

Roughly speaking it occurs just after the Killer Robot Cops kill off all of the now redundant Killer Human Cops.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 04:50 | 6171112 WOAR
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I, for one, welcome our new robot security.

 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:28 | 6170224 stant
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Monetization of your ass is so last century! Your now being commoditized ! Move over copper oil and ag

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:37 | 6170227 Normalcy Bias
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I am so thankful that I didn't have children. This world is racing toward hell at an ever-accelerating pace...

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:30 | 6170228 WTFUD
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Pretty much like a defendant being refused a copy of his (signed ) confession. The word 'fascism' is being banded about too frequently and easy. Government and Big Biz in bed (cahoots) together. This is not government but a handful of chosen executives in bed with Business and so 'fascism' is nowhere near a harsh enough description.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:32 | 6170233 Dre4dwolf
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Meh no one gives a shit.

Giving corporations more control over govt doesn't mean a whole lot anymore anyway. . .  corporations and banks are already more powerful than government anyway.

If Lockheed martin , Boing and Intel + google wanted, they could completely take over the U.S. Govt in about 2 weeks.

 

The govt is insignifigant in the grand scheme of things, the ability of corporations to sue govt to get their way will only aid to decrease the paper work load for what they are already doing anyway.

 

Quite frankly, the only thing that will change the day after all these bs. laws are passed is, instead of filing some "Form A" corporations will file a "Form B".

Thats it.

1000's of pages of bullshit will simply amount to a Title Header Changed on a form.

 

Banks, Corporations and multi-nationals are bigger, richer, more liquid and more powerful and technologically advanced than government, what chance does government have of stopping them from doing anything?

 

How many financial crimes have been punished with slap on the wrists? . . . its not like govt is doing anything anyway.

 

What good is government? Really? 

Government has quite frankly become obsolete . . . while these fools in the senate/congress debate over who can and cant do what . . . corporations are practically getting ready to colonize mars.

The top corporations run the following industries:

-Military 

-Agriculture

-Legal System (all these legal firms practically pimp out judges to the highes bidder)

-The Fbi

-The DEA

-The Medical industry

-The insurance industry

 

What does govt do?

You send govt forms in the mail, and half the time they lose it.

Govt is powerless

All that matters is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

MONEY IS YOUR GOVT.

If you have it you have permission to do whatever the fuck you want, if you dont have it , you cant do shit.

 

 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:49 | 6170270 ZerOhead
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"Meh no one gives a shit.

Giving corporations more control over govt doesn't mean a whole lot anymore anyway. . .  corporations and banks are already more powerful than government anyway."

And after this sucker passes it will stay that way for all of eternity. I fully concur with the "no one gives a shit" part. It's mostly because almost no-one knows how to use their brains anymore.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:10 | 6170310 kchrisc
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They can "pass", or implement whatever they like.
The real trick is making it work against a pissed off, hungry, and well armed people.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

 

First they came for the drug users, and since I was not a drug user, I did nothing.
Then they came for the poor, and since I was not poor, I did nothing
Then they came for me, and I dug up my arsenal...

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 20:51 | 6170541 suteibu
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"It's mostly because almost no-one knows how to use their brains anymore."

People do not understand what the term "financialization" means even though the term is widely used by its proponents.  If they knew the definition of that term and what it means to their lives, they would rise up in greater numbers against it.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:50 | 6170271 WTFUD
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Canny argue with that Dre4dwolf.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:57 | 6170424 22winmag
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Governments, war, and fiat-money belong next to each other in a museum, so future generations can marvel at the shit mankind has been through.

 

Otherwise you have Elysium.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 03:26 | 6171036 winchester
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they could completely take over the U.S. Govt in about 2 weeks.

 

if you take a look at the situation... take google, remove it, try to mentally spacialize how something is missing ....

 

i remember the time google was less than yahoo....

i remember the time google became N°1

i remember time when google negociated dedicated icon to smartphones 1st gens.....

 

it is now  a button system based like siri to ask the google identity to make a search by vocal recognition, google is now admited in computing like a tool,

it is used to make money.

 

it tried to make glass,

they are everywhere.

 

google took over the world in internet just like microsoft took over pc shares, linux part is growing but still,

 

face the reality that any entreprise huge enough like apple, google, and co are controlling the world way above the govs.

 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:36 | 6170242 kowalli
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states of NAzi in steroids

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:39 | 6170249 kowalli
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fascists said - there is only one nation (1%)

liberalism said - there is only 0.000001% or ultra-rish

liberalism is far worse than fascism

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:47 | 6170264 kchrisc
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Regarding their spying on us, the people, they state, "If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about."

To their efforts to hide their behavior from us, they state, "Nothing to worry about, we have nothing to hide."

For a thinking person, reality can be maddening.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:56 | 6170286 shovelhead
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TISA = SPAM.

If you knew what was in it, you wouldn't even walk near it, let alone eat it.

Although the hog nostrils aren't so bad.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:22 | 6170332 negative rates
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To go with a side of I can't beieve they call it butter.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:59 | 6170294 kchrisc
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I only pay passing attention to such things now, as the DC US' tyranny is full blown--like a brake less train going downhill--"Tyranny is, tyranny does."

I have become more focused on preparing for the time that, going hungry and scared, the sheeple begin to wake in mass. I will be armed with the "why," "who," and a guillotine.

"Don't fight the train, wash away its tracks."

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

 

“How did the revolution come?” “Two ways,” “Gradually and then suddenly.”

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:55 | 6170411 22winmag
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The next thing they will be trading in is mercenaries on U.S. soil.

 

That won't end well.

 

Shout out to Carlin for telling it like it is.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 20:04 | 6170423 Bobbo
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I have read elsewhere (i.e., it is a rumor that) Mr. Assange is an agent with or within Mossad, and that all Wikileak releases are "managed" by that organization.  Maybe so, maybe no.

But assuming it is so, then what could be the intended effect of this careful release, vs. the effect of simply letting the secrecy go on unchallenged?

What would Israel stand to gain by this release or lose by withholding the information?

Does it not seem from the tone of the analyses thus far that TISA et al are an attempt by large scale corporate interests to increase their freedom of trade among themselves, to decrease "trade barriers" at national and local levels, and by decreasing "barriers" to also decrease national and local restrictions on corporate control?  Of course that is the message in the act of releasing what has been selected for release, and this material probably reflects the true objectives of those who control the [predetermined] outcome of the so-called negotiations.

But, is this simply Wikileaks doing good service to us all by uncovering and exposing secret corporate scheming and collusion?  Or, is there another hand in this which, for its own purposes, does not wish to see the corporations gain that much global power?  Is there another hand in this which itself desires mastery of the globe for a different purpose from that of corporate ownership?  What other hand--what other self-styled power on earth--might that be that, if Assange be Mossad, wants all for itself that it may control both the population and the corporate lackeys to its own satisfaction and to its own completion?

Duh.

Nothing this public happens by accident, nor by simply good will--Mr Snowden notwithstanding.

(... and I greatly admire and salute Mr. Snowden for what he has done, even if he was and remains CIA doing a job on NSA--just a possibility, I assure, given his truly extraordinary training, placement, and opportunity.)

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 20:36 | 6170504 dexter_morgan
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ZWO cabal.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 23:01 | 6170748 OZZIDOWNUNDER
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Assange being an asset of Mossad sounds like a load of $hit to me. In fact Bobbo your whole response sounds like planted $hit. Those Zionist monsters look after their own & NO one seems to be looking after Julian Assage except the country whose Embassy he's sheltering in. Even his country of birth Australia branded him a criminal (well at least the Govts (plural) do BUT most Australians think he's a hero) 

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 07:15 | 6171242 Bobbo
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Research it yourself.  Do not take me as an authority on anything.  Too much to read, too little time to read it.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 20:19 | 6170462 q99x2
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I find it strange that humans pass laws to end life on such a nice planet. They know not what they do ain't going to cut it from here out.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 20:35 | 6170503 JR
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The bottom line is that the Fascists want complete control of everything that moves in the world.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 22:39 | 6170711 TheCentralScrut...
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Oh, come on now..   We know exactly what's in the TPP...   It's all right here.. 

 

http://www.readthetpp.com/

Scrutinizer 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 23:12 | 6170765 jmaloy5365
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Anyone voting anything to into law that is top secret and that has not been read should be tried and hanged for treason.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 00:51 | 6170906 pcrs
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Inconsistent article
first the claim is that this implies deregulation and less government involvement than this is written:

. They consist of hundreds of chapters of detailed regulations, on subjects ranging from textiles to intellectual property law.

Make up your mind. Regulation or deregulation. I think it is probably more regulation of slaves by rulers.
Probably as long as the bogey man of international big corporations is used, John Doe will ask for it. Alternative scare to Isis.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 01:00 | 6170916 TheReplacement
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It is consistent, but not well written.

Less local regulation.

More global/corporate regulation.

Let local control (none).

More global/corporate control (total).

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 02:27 | 6170987 Troy Ounce
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The solution to fight  TISA & TTIP with is Super Glue
Let's glue the 0.01% and their civil servant, lawyers & accountants.
(Car) doors, PCs, ATM's, CCTVs, etc. Glue it!
Let's Stick Together

 

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 04:40 | 6171082 honestann
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So this fictional treaty says: we can transfer any and all information about everyone anywhere we want, so every corporation everywhere on earth can know everything about everyone.

However, no human is allowed to know where their food or other goods were grown, produced or packaged.

CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 04:49 | 6171110 Skateboarder
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A food package in the future:

*processed in a facility that also processes humans.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 09:21 | 6171376 SubjectivObject
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In Malazya, the food packages now state "Government Approved Ingredients" or some such similar.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 07:22 | 6171254 Counterpunch
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slate and the new republic, eh?

 

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 14:02 | 6171889 lu86cky
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"The proposal of any new law or regulation of commerce which comes from this order, ought always to be listened to with great precaution, and ought never to be adopted till after having been long and carefully examined, not only with the most scrupulous, but with the most suspicious attention. It comes from an order of men, whose interest is never exactly the same with that of the public, who have generally an interest to deceive and even to oppress the public, and who accordingly have, upon many occasions, both deceived and oppressed it."

 

- Adam Smith

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 15:56 | 6172253 Joe A
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More and more is being revealed on TPP, TTIP and TISA. But what are the names and faces behind them? These 'deals' are negotiated by people. Who are these people? Let's name them and shame them.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 02:00 | 6173385 onmail
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Framed by CappyCabalBanksters,

JEWHAD is On.

TISA , TPP mean this :

All ppl of the world , all your wealth belongs to us (US, actually CabalBanksters)

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 04:40 | 6173467 SmittyinLA
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Elizabeth Warren?  I don't get it?

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