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Gold At $64,000 – Bloomberg’s ‘China Gold Price’

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Gold At $64,000 – Bloomberg’s ‘China Gold Price’

- Bloomberg Intelligence suggest gold-backed yuan see gold at $64,000 per ounce
- “Chinese gold standard would need a rate 50 times bullion’s price”
- As China-U.S. relations deteriorate, gold-backed yuan possible
- Dollar and financial and monetary dominance of U.S. at risk
- U.S. and China war of words continues to escalate
- China rejects U.S. hegemony in Southeast Asia
- Currency war to escalate

If China were to partially back its yuan with gold it would require a gold price of $64,000 per ounce, 50 times gold bullion’s price today, according to a recent article from respected Bloomberg Intelligence.

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It seems like an outlandish forecast. However, as tensions between the U.S. and China continue to escalate such a scenario is not actually as implausible as it may first appear.

If China were to back its yuan with gold it would require a price of $64,000 per ounce according to a recent report from Bloomberg.

While Bloomberg give no details as to how they arrive at this figure, our “back of envelope” calculations would confirm that at its current value relative to the dollar the yuan would indeed require gold – priced in dollars – to be priced in the tens of thousands of dollars.

Chinese M1 money supply is roughly 33.64 trillion yuan which at todays exchange rate equates to around $5.4 trillion.

Bloomberg conservatively estimate China’s gold reserves at around 3150 tonnes although many analysts believe the figure to be much higher.

In order to back $5.4 trillion yuan with 3150 tonnes of gold, the gold price would need to be in the region of $48,600 per ounce.

Bloomberg conclude that, at today’s prices, it would be “basically impossible” for China to fully back its yuan with gold. Indeed, at $1,200 per ounce, it would require over 126,000 tonnes to back $5.4 trillion.

Bloomberg states that “there’s no evidence” that China seeks to adopt a traditional gold standard. However, China’s appetite for gold in recent years has been voracious and it is clear that they and the People’s Bank of China (PBOC) place great strategic importance on the precious metal.

The Chinese have been quite overt in recent months in their ambition to establish the yuan as a rival reserve currency and it is likely that they intend gold to play a role in that ambition.

If China were to even partially back its currency with gold it would gain further favour across the world as a reliable reserve currency when viewed against the increasingly debased U.S. dollar. In order to maintain some semblance of credibility the U.S. would likely be forced to follow suit.

For the U.S. to back its gargantuan M1 with its stated, and almost certainly grossly overstated, gold reserves of 8,500 tonnes it would push gold prices to multiples of their current price.

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There has been a definite heating of tone in the war of words between the U.S. and China in recent months. Only this morning, the Wall Street Journal reports on how details of 4 million federal employees were hacked in April. While the FBI have not directly accused China, the WSJ suggests that China is the prime suspect.

At the end of last month a Chinese state-controlled newspaper stated that if the U.S. continued to interfere with its activities in the South China Sea, war was “inevitable”. China are clearly not intimidated by the prospect of war with the U.S.

China rejects what it sees as U.S. “meddling” in South East Asia. At last years APEC conference, China’s president Xi had President Obama pointedly placed at the peripheries of the stage for the official photograph. President Putin was by his side. The message was subtle but quite clear – China views the U.S. as a peripheral nation in Southeast Asian affairs whereas Russia is at the centre.

If tensions continue to escalate – and with that the prospect of a “hot war” as recently warned of by many including George Soros – each side will seek to weaken its rival in a variety of ways. In January, Russia’s Prime Minister Medvedev stated that if his country were cut out of the SWIFT system, the “Russian response – economically and otherwise – will know no limits.”

In the event of an escalation in economic warfare it seems obvious that the achilles heal of the U.S. is the dollar and its erstwhile global reserve currency status. Many analysts believe that China would be reluctant to sink the dollar given it would undermine the value of their vast holdings of U.S. Treasuries and foreign exchange reserves.

However, there will be a tipping point where the advantage to be gained by badly impacting the dollar and positioning the yuan as new reserve currency will be greater than the disadvantage suffered by a collapse in the value of the dollar.

The tipping point is closer than many believe.

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Mon, 06/08/2015 - 10:24 | 6174143 kill switch
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.....

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 17:50 | 6172488 silvermail
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Bitcoin - it is not money. Bitcoin - this area of clinical psychiatry.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 07:42 | 6173605 deimosaffair
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go play with a dildo, you luddite. 

 

oh, wait, silicon, rechargeable batteries, too much hight tech for you? wooden broomstick, better, yes?

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 08:30 | 6173704 Billy Sol Estes
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Bitcoin: No electricity, No value.

The End

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 08:39 | 6173730 crazytechnician
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No electricity ? Have you actually thought that one through ?

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 10:26 | 6169087 BoredRoom
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I sure hope there are no animals or small children living in your home.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 10:22 | 6169076 gonetogalt
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FOFOA calculated a price of $55,000 some time back...Fonzannon, where are you???

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 10:34 | 6169105 0b1knob
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Bitcoin is the currency of the future! Since it exists in the cloud no one can ever rob you of it.  Oh wait....

http://nypost.com/2015/06/05/nyc-man-robbed-at-gunpoint-for-his-bitcoins/

 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 20:51 | 6170537 palmereldritch
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Bitcoin

When cashless meets GENIUS!

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 11:21 | 6169227 crazytechnician
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If that is really the best you can come up with then good luck. How much cash and metal has been robbed at gunpoint ? If the chap had been sensible or used a multi-sig wallet that theft would have been impossible.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 09:50 | 6171416 Haole
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Many a ZH commenter are intellectual descendants of those that laughed at the Wright brothers apparently...

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 17:15 | 6172409 crazytechnician
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And their next generation laughed at the jet engine as well. "those jet engines keep blowing up , I would never fly on a plane with jet propulsion"

Bitcoin - The Jet Engine of Currency ......

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 17:18 | 6172417 Arnold
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No.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 17:53 | 6172497 crazytechnician
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Yes.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 08:59 | 6173803 Creepy A. Cracker
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As soon as Bitcoin gets to $1.37 I'm buying!!!  Although only three or four as the downside risk will still be way too large.  How many of you bought Bitcoin, currently at about $225, at over $1000 a short time ago? 

No wonder so may are begging people to drive the price back up.  Horrendous Bitcoin losses.  More to come...

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 10:38 | 6174095 crazytechnician
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Is that 1.37m ?

How many bought bitcoin sub 1 dollar ? how many sub 10 dollar ? sub 100 dollar ? Far more than anybody who bought at 1000$ , because NOBODY bought at that price - it was an Mt.Gox bot that went beserk , there were NO TRADES at those prices , just more hot air from the ZH Flat Earth Society. I wish you guys would grow a brain , or just part of a brain , you could share it between yourselfs when your not fondling each others eagles , maybe even raise your own IQ by a couple of pips.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 15:10 | 6175510 Creepy A. Cracker
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LOL!!!  Name calling.  The Bitcoin panic is reaching epic proportions.  "U r stoopid if u don't buy Bitcoin.  Hee-yuck." 

 

Yeah, that'll work...

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 14:46 | 6172041 mt paul
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gave you an up vote

for the creative insult...

 

just because..

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 17:23 | 6172408 Arnold
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Glen Curtis, is still laughing.

When the Wrights were messing with bicycles.........

http://www.glennhcurtissmuseum.org/museum/glenncurtiss.html

 

I mock, but all were innovative beyond  all comprehension.

 

Edison , Tesla, Burbank.........

http://historylists.org/people/10-greatest-inventors-of-the-19th-century...

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 12:13 | 6169380 BoredRoom
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"Impossible"....the words of a fool

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 12:28 | 6169423 crazytechnician
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I really do feel sorry for you Flat Earthers. BTW how's life down there in your damp bunker ? You do know that living off of 30 years old prepper food rots out your brain right ? Those eagles you have been saving all those years sure will come in handy after the Armageddon.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 20:58 | 6170547 palmereldritch
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Forget about Au for a minute...how does Pb fit into the mix when the grid goes down?

Will those Phased plasma rifles in the 40 watt range still work in such a scenario?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIPCn-aYMoM

 

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 08:36 | 6171318 messymerry
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Hey, just what you see buddy,,,

;-D

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:18 | 6169622 gdogus erectus
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$64,000 was calculated using the wrong denominator.  Not saying it won't be a big number but 3150 tons is not the correct amount of gold that China owns.  Then again, the denominator will most likely never be known.  Even after an "audit".

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:47 | 6169858 lakecity55
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I would guess each country's stated gold vs. their real gold is a State Secret.

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