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The "Illegal Immigrant" Recovery? The Real Stunner In The Jobs Report

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Traditionally, when it comes to job numbers reported by the BLS's Establishment (the source of the monthly nonfarm payrolls change) and Household (the source of the monthly unemployment rate data) surveys, there is a substantial discrepancy. However, in May's far stronger than expected report, the two for the first time were almost identical: the Establishment Survey reported an increase of 280K jobs, while according to the Household survey 272K jobs were added.

Impressive numbers in a month in which only 215K jobs were expected to be added.

There were the usual kinks, of course. Two thirds of all jobs, according to the Establishment survey, were low-paying, low-quality jobs, primarily teachers, retail, temp help and waiters (something even CNBC has been forced to acknowledge):

 

This has been the case throughout the recovery, and helps explain why while wage growth while barely rising for all workers, remains depressed and even negative inr eal terms for production and non-supervisory workers, which account for 83% of all US employment.

 

There were other curiosities: the vast majority of jobs added in May, over 200K, were in the 20-24 age group, and the number of self-employed workers mysteriously soared by 350K to 10 million.

But the biggest surprise came from Table 7, where the BLS reveals the number of "foreign born workers" used in the Household survey. In May, this number increased to 25.098 million, the second highest in history, a monthly jump of 279K.

 

Assuming, the Household and Establishment surveys were congruent, this would mean that there was just 1K native-born workers added in May of the total 280K jobs added.

Alternatively, assuming the series, which is not seasonally adjusted, was indicative of seasonally adjusted data, then the 272K increase in total Household Survey civilian employment in May would imply a decline of 7K native-born workers offset by the increase of 279K "foreign borns."

But while all of these comparisons are apples to oranges, using the BLS' own Native-Born series, also presented on an unadjusted basis, we find the following stunner: since the start of the Second Great Depression, the US has added 2.3 million "foreign-born" workers, offset by just 727K "native-born".

 

This means that the "recovery" has almost entirely benefited foreign-born workers, to the tune fo 3 to 1 relative to native-born Americans!

 

How does the BLS determine a foreign-born worker? This is its definition:

The foreign born are persons who reside in the United States but who were born outside the country or one of its outlying areas to parents who were not U.S. citizens. The foreign born include legally-admitted immigrants, refugees, temporary residents such as students and temporary workers, and undocumented immigrants. The survey data, however, do not separately identify the numbers of persons in these categories.

In other words, the "foreign-born" catogory includes both legal and illegal immigrants unfortunately, the BLS is unable, or unwilling, to distinguish between the two.

As a result, it may well be, that the surprise answer why America's labor productivity (which recently posted its worst 6 month stretch in 22 years) has plummeted in recent years and certainly months, confounding economists who are unable to explain why "solid" labor growth does not translate into just as solid GDP growth...

 

... and why wage growth has gone precisely nowhere, is because the vast majority of all jobs since December 2007, or 75% to be specific, have gone to foreign-born workers, a verifiable fact. What is unknown is how many of these millions of "foreign-born" jobs have gone to illegal immigrant who are perfectly willing to work hard, and yet whose wage bargaining power is absolutely nil (after all they are happy just to have a job) thereby leading to depressed wages for native-born workers in comparable jobs, resulting in wage growth which over the past 8 years has been non-existant.

Incidentally, this is the same lack of wage growth which has allowed the Fed to pump some $4 trillion into the stock market. Because far more than merely a domestic politics issues, the lack of wage growth and downstream inflation, is precisely what has permitted the Fed to maintain QE as long as it has.

In other words, how many illegal workers cross the US border, may be the biggest variable shaping US monetary polic at the moment! And, in thought-experiment land, the more porous US immigration policy the longer the Fed will be allowed to maintain its ZIRP/QE experiment, and the higher the S&P will rise.

Could it be that illegal immigration is the best friend of that 0.1% of the US population which has benefited exclusively from the Fed's relentless injection of liquidity into risk assets via either ZIRP of QE?

Note: this article is not meant to side on either side of the illegal immigration debate: the upcoming presidential elections will do enough of that. It merely seeks to fill a gaping hole in economist models which are unable to explain or rationalize why America's seemingly "booming" jobs recovery, which is "firing on all fours" according to the BLS, is not manifesting itself in either inflationary pressures, or broad economic productivity.

Source: Native-born workers; Foreign-born workers

 

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Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:18 | 6169632 TeamDepends
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Because Obama!

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:44 | 6169694 thunderchief
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Why not 500K or higher while they're cooking the numbers?

There is no limit to bullshit, until someone throws is the bullshit flag.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:56 | 6169726 BullyBearish
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A playbook to destroy America:

--Control media and thought

--Control legal system

--Control government

--Make drugs, pornography, unhealthy food readily available

--Attack traditional values

--Control citizens through debt and fear of police

--Work to negate the 2nd Amendment

--Put people in power that exemplify corruption

--Open up the borders to further diminish opportunity for citizens

--Sell America's resources abroad and pocket the profits

--Enter into secret trade deals that further diminish opportunity for citizens

--Allow another country to exercise sovereignty over America

--Destroy the currency

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:24 | 6169796 TheGreatRecovery
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Yes for everything but "drugs".  George Washington grew cannabis.  Samuel Adams made beer.  Andrew Jackson probably used a morphine-based medicine in his later years, to deal with the pain of so many injuries, including that bullet he carried inside from the dueling match.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:36 | 6170108 El Crusty
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the drugs part of his list directly ties into the 1st and second points of his list. make recreational drug illegal so the government can use that as an excuse to generate even more revenue from the criminal "justice" system.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 01:28 | 6170938 palmereldritch
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Not to mention Madison's furtive ecstasy fueled raves....

Oh...and how the Continental Army exchanged cocaine for muskets along the Potomac....epic history!

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 23:26 | 6170782 Nexus789
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I would add de-skill and reduce educational attainment. It is obvious that all the new jobs are low skill, low pay and service orientated.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 00:53 | 6170909 RichardParker
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Bully:

--Allow corporations to exercise sovereignty over America

 

There, fixed it for you.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 07:20 | 6171248 Counterpunch
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I think he meant the nation state of Israel....  corporations have too much power and influence but are ultimately subject to US law.

 

Israel is not.  Israel doesn't even need to adhere to conditions of their UN membership, UN resolutions, or international law.

 

They're said to be g0d's chosen in a book they wrote so, you know, open and shut case.... 

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 04:06 | 6171068 BoPeople
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Yes, they are supposedly tearing down the US so that they can make a global system.

However, they are going well beyond what is necessary ... and this was all planned back in the 1950s.

It is destruction and corruption for it own sake and all of the rich and powerful have joined Satan's team... many, possibly not realizing exactly what they have done. We all have to make a choice at some point and that choice determines our future.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:10 | 6169767 Thick Willy
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It's almost like brown people aren't as good as white people.  Not that there's any historical or observational evidence to support such a vile, racist supposition.

America ruled supreme because it was the nation with the most white people.  As the white population declines, so shall America in all measures other than disease and violent crime.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:54 | 6170254 Deathrips
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I meet plenty of dumbass whites all the time..they are lazy and niggardly freeloaders....i call them niggers. Collectivism kills buddy. If my memory serves me correctly this country was just fine till the whites showed up.

Arent the chosenites whitish?

Black/White/Brown paradigm..allowing religions leaders and money changers to take power for 1000s of years.

RIPS

 

 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:23 | 6170331 TheGreatRecovery
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:-)  "If my memory serves me correctly this country was just fine till the whites showed up." 

I bet almost everybody in the USA today has a little bit of Native American in their genes.

(And a little bit of "pass for white".) 

I guess the Native Americans had many different nations and cultures, but it does seem to take an Industrial Revolution to obtain the sheer physical power needed to destroy the land, water, and air.

And... perhaps, it takes a preacher telling you, "go ahead and rape the planet; just get out there and get rich and climb the social ladder and party till you die; The Creator can always work a miracle and bring the planet back to life after you've poisoned it to death."

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:37 | 6170367 Counterpunch
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The Chinese will rule the earth.

The 4th world war will between them and their allies and the Zionists and their slaves.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 04:14 | 6171072 BoPeople
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In this world there are slaves and slavers. However, the slavers are also slaves. Skin color is irrelevant and actually the amount of money you have does not impact the fact that you are a slave.

Once you realize that you are a slave, the truth "can" set you free.

Many people choose to be slavers/slaves because they believe that the "quality" of the material life in this world is important.

Many people feel trapped. They feel that they are slaves, but won't admit it to themselves because that is not the paradigm they were given.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 16:17 | 6169935 neidermeyer
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Illegals are not Obamacare eligible and therefore cost far less... This is intentional.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 16:19 | 6169939 Vin
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@ Neidemeyer:  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Right.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 21:12 | 6170576 Super Hans
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Go to your local county dfacs or whatever you call it and you will see.  I  live int the black belt, and if you removed all blacks and whites from their office waiting rooms you would have 2/3's mexican or whatever waiting to be served. This is a fact.

 

SH

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 00:57 | 6170913 RichardParker
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Neidermeyer:

Good news!

"It's creative workaround of the ACA restrictions because the states are not using federal funds for the programs..."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/09/us/obamacare-undocumented-immigrants/

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:19 | 6169635 Cognitive Dissonance
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It just doesn't get any better than this.........and never will.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:25 | 6169648 disabledvet
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"You just can't get there from here."

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:30 | 6169657 sudzee
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Seems that mickey mouse would agree this is good policy.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:16 | 6170322 OldPhart
Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:40 | 6169839 Sudden Debt
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another thing OBAMA CHANGED for y’all!

 

You can put that on a bumpersticker!

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:27 | 6169652 sudzee
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OT:

Anything for money. Amazon promoting ISIS propaganda.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33035453

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:28 | 6169655 chunga
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Amerikans need not apply.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:49 | 6169714 THE 4th Quadrant
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IBM says they need more Indians because of lazy 'stingy' Americans.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:45 | 6169852 Sudden Debt
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But must dominate Inglish speaking good!

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 21:35 | 6170604 NoPension
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Let IBM move their corporate HQ to India.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:31 | 6169662 McRocket
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Very nicely done Zerohedge.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:57 | 6170160 Cautionary Tale
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Since you're a fan... Food Trucks bitchez! (let's see how mileage I get out of that).

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:37 | 6170368 Cautionary Tale
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I got ZERO mileage... Which PROVES to me that this fucking place is out of touch...

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:36 | 6169672 Zen Master
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This sums it up pretty well: https://youtu.be/JTF2j0OWUi8

 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:52 | 6169725 JuliaS
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During the market peak of 2008 I remember watching this:

https://youtu.be/suz91rgSM1w?t=20s

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:39 | 6169680 F0ster
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Bingo!

This is why I read ZH and punch my computer in the face when/if Bloomberg accidentally loads.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:42 | 6169687 q99x2
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So much for my idea that robots were spreading the wealth among the population. Instead it is simply more eaters, breeders and terrorists sneaking in under the cover of Obama.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:43 | 6169688 Joebloinvestor
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Prostitution, drug dealing and illegal immigrants.

They skew reporting to whatever side they want to favor.

Taking their cues from climate change.

Getting to the point you can't trust or believe in any declaration. 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:43 | 6169689 henry chucho
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"Chinga la grande puta,Los Estados Mariposas de Amerika..Viva Mexico!"

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 16:12 | 6169925 Prober
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You should all say prayers of thanks every day that I am not the USA's commander in chief.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:44 | 6169692 Rentier88
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AKA known as low paying shit jobs added.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:46 | 6169700 whoopsing
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It's as if the PTB are trying to destroy the middle - class or something

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:46 | 6169702 jmeyer
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The USA is rapidly changing in to a rainbow land, a new land of opportunity to which the world can emigrate leaving their often horrific living conditions for the new land.

But this, along with retiring boomers and poor US core growth combines to form a DEFLATION. This is the defense that Bernanke spoke about last week when he said the Fed

isn't responsible for what is happening, effectively leaving the gov't holding the hot potatoe. So what will happen ? After the crunch we all know will occur we'll elect another set of immoral and incompetent

politicians and start the whole cycle all over again.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:48 | 6169706 jmeyer
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Somehow my comment was posted twice. That shows just how important it is : )

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 04:04 | 6171065 Lin S
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Had to downvote you for the puerile "crunch" reference. John Wesley Rawles childish novel is your source.

Don't outsource your thinking, especially to a 60-IQ moron such as Rawles.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:35 | 6169710 JuliaS
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When blaming immigrants for drawing on our services, what is ignored is that the countries they came from invested their wealth into getting them to the point where they are productive and employable. They've raised them, fed them, supplied education and we got the finished product - a mature person ready to work from day 1 they set foot in the country. And that is somehow not considered a benefit to us? Bullshit! Also, I've worked with both, locals and foreigners. I find that the foreigners have better work ethics. For them more is at stake. They don't have safety nets, no grandmas and grandpas to fall back onto. Most of the time they're the ones earning money to support the entire family. They slip up and out of the country they go. So for them more's at stake compared to mommy and daddy's basement dwellers. I'd hire a foreigner over a local any day of the week, even if I had to pay more. They make better workers, provided they can speak the language. There are plenty of those whom I would not hire due to their inability to communicate. Those people I would personally escort out of the country until they learn English.

Then again, if one of those non-English speakers was responsible for taking your job (I side with Doug Stanhope on this) I'd be embarassed! If he's better qualified for your job, then you're a fucking loser, unless you received your job training in pantomime.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:44 | 6170258 Oldwood
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Stated as a person who has not yet had their job taken by a person who is willing to do it for less pay.

I used to think like you. I have worked with illegals for forty years and always felt that anyone who was willing to work should be given the chance, but I was wrong. I did not understand economics. I did not understand supply and demand and the fact that a limitless influx of labor would forever drive wages down. The thing is, while it has been occurring pretty much continuously the thing that has really make it happen is the repeated recessions. With each recession we see displaced workers, who being jobless, seek out alternative employment, while receiving unemployment benefits. Employers seeking new employees with the first signs of recovery hire the lowest cost alternatives...illegals. The standing supply of available labor drives rates down. While this oversupply of labor would impose downward pressure on wages by itself, employers would not be nearly as active in replacing higher wage people with lower ones. But these cycles create an easy means of rachetting them down.

Ultimately, to hire illegals, is no different than to buy cheap imports. To do so for any period of time virtually guaranties our jobs will be replaced or eliminated.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 23:12 | 6170766 JuliaS
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If you're a good worked providing sensible service for a good price - you'll have work. If someone can do your work better for less, he deserves to do it. It's a matter of input vs. output. Someone who does work for less is of greater net benefit, but if it hurts your way of life... well, drop some of your needs then. Adapt. US invades counties, ruins their economies via it's trans-nationals. It's only fair that the countries we destroy do some invading of your own. You take away their jobs, they'll take yours. Also, when you send countless troops to "defend" your country around the world instead of back home, don't whine when hundreds can walk across the border barefoot on daily basis. You asked for it, you got it, so quit whining.

Do work that people are willing to pay money for or get out of the way. Don't like employer policies? Work for yourself. Don't like politicians? Vote them out? Can't vote them out? Throw them out. How much have you done to fix your situation?

I tell you what I did to fix my position. I learned 5 languages, after getting a college diploma I mastered 2 more professions on my own. I don't buy shit I don't need, so that I don't run out of money. I maintain good relationships with people, employers, co-workers and subordinates. Many Americans are used to opening their mouths and having food fall into it from out of the sky. They're used to getting a lot for doing little. I'm talking modern Americans. The further back into the past, the better work ethics you'll discover. But we're here now, this is how things are. Get used to it.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 01:50 | 6170964 RichardParker
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Don't like politicians? Vote them out?

Only to replace them with another set of disingenous sociopaths...

 "The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them."
-Karl Marx

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 03:55 | 6171030 JuliaS
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Well, you know how the machine works. Did you buy a rifle and drive to Washington to overthrow the sociopaths? Did you stage a tax revolt? What did you do to make things right?

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 15:43 | 6172146 RichardParker
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I will not aid and abet these elitist sociopaths.  I will not participate in Obamacare.  Never participated in selective service.  I refuse to vote. Participating in elections legitimizes them (both the corrupted elections and the elitists).  Why do you think so many countries have "mandatory" voting?  The same reason our beloved (demagogue) leader pushed for them.  What I'm doing may not seem like much, but at least I stopped drinking the Kool-Aid (about 15 years ago) and TRY to think for myself.

Overthrow them?  You know they have a domestic security force (DHS) with a 60 billion dollar (give or take) budget, right?  The only way to win is if EVERYONE slowly starves the beast.  We are witnessing the decline of a modern day version of the Roman Empire.  I think I'd rather sit back, make some popcorn and "enjoy the show". I was born in Generation X, which means I'm totally fucked.  However, my great grandchildren may have a brighter future, god willing.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 20:31 | 6172841 JuliaS
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Election participation legitimizes the outcome. Absolutely agree. I don't vote typically. The only time I did was when RP ran for office, because in my life I've never seen a candidate like him... aside from 1988 when he ran for office, but somehow I completely missed him. His platform was identical, but without the internet it was much easier for the mainstream media to drown him. I find footage from those days I didn't even know existed.

As for starving the beast - impossible. Plain and simple. Life requires money, money comes from the bank and there you have it. You have only 2 social positions - either you're a net producers that fuels the welfare state while the government robs you of the products of your labor, or you're a net consumer who is used as a justification for robbing net producers, supposedly on your behalf. You're in this country - you're the system. Travel elsewhere and you'll find it's the same game there with different allocation of resources and priorities, but otherwise the same. There is nowhere to run.

The system relies on exponential growth, so it'll implode regardless of your individual contribution. It's a mathematical certainty.

What do I do? I acquire skills. That's how I deal with the situation. Revolution? Oh, it ain't happening. They got us exactly where they want us - completely pacified. People stage riots over sports events, or using any excuse that would let them trash property and loot convenience stores. When it comes to putting the same energy towards fighting true criminals - those sociopaths you mention - not a squeak. And you're right, those people have real security. They'll kill as many as they need to get what they want. And they can travel freely to anywhere on the planet. The borders - they're to keep the sheep fenced. They're built so that we couldn't chase after them if they run off with briefcases full of money.

So, where am I going with this? I don't know.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 00:08 | 6173244 RichardParker
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There are many ways to slowly starve the beast.  I'll give you two. 

Carry as little debt as possible.  Among my peers, I am the only person who is debt free with the exception of a small amount money left on a 3 yr car loan (cheapest car I would be content with) where I put down a third of the total price in cash. 

Let the (TPTB) keep forcing their multiculturalism, white guilt, class warfare, inflation, punitive tax rates (FDR redux) etc. to fuck the productive class over and enrich themselves.  I'll just work less.  No second job or overtime (unless compulsory).  Keep demotivating me and I'll do the bare minimum in terms of productivity/W-2 to get by.  I've been living like a grad student for over 10 years.  I actually like not having tons of "stuff"  Being a good politician is WAY more helpful for job security than being competent when you work in corporate R & D.

And there's not a damn thing they can do about it. :)

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 09:48 | 6171412 NoPension
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JuliaS.
Good for you. Your a survivor. Your so smart, and I'm sure your a good person, and never pass a mirror without stopping, looking in, and saying, " hi there, YOU are a good person"
Now with the accolades aside.

There are multiple competing sets of rules in this country. It depends on what political rat bastard wants your vote, as to what applies to you.

I can compete 1 on 1 with some third world immigrant trying to steal my job. But why should I have to? I would rather just shoot the motherfucker and be done with it. And I am not alone. We slobs in the trenches are getting pretty fed up. When the wheels come of the cart, they won't be able to get to that border fast enough. It won't be pretty.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:06 | 6170303 Buster Cherry
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"They slip up and out of the country they go."

Nah, I don't think so...

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 21:16 | 6170582 Pinche Caballero
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Yep, BC, gotta agree

Examples of Serious Crimes of Illegal Aliens

http://www.fairus.org/issue/examples-of-serious-crimes-of-illegal-aliens

And, if I'm not mistaken, Mexico even routinely provides legal defense for its illegals who commit crimes, especially the biggies like rape and murder, and are caught in the U.S.

Sorry, Julia S, but portions of your comment are, shall we say - No bueno!

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 04:14 | 6170769 JuliaS
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Homegrown Americans commit crimes here, our cops commit crimes, our politicians commit crimes, our soldiers commit crimes overseas. People who aren't Americans commit crimes paid by our businessmen and politicians, as in Ukraine, Middle East, Africa and so on.

How about this - criminals commit crimes and race has nothing to do with it.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 21:53 | 6170629 Blano
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They're not coming here because they're well fed and educated.  What a dumbass statement.

The overwhelming number of the brown hordes are coming because they're trying to escape some Third World shithole to become part of the Free Shit Army, and those who get jobs sent a big chunk of their pay back home.  Not many dimes of their pay get spent here.

What an idiotic statement.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 04:15 | 6170773 JuliaS
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Well, you're paying for it with your taxes. You aren't doing jack shit about the politicians who run the welfare state. You're voting with your wallet, buddy. You get the government you deserve.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 05:31 | 6171145 JuliaS
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Just to clarify where I'm coming from, all of you exceptional Americans. I've known a few people - actual individuals. Immigrants. I've known people who were "legal", who bragged about getting into the country because their families were linked to mafia back home and had money flowing out of their ears. They could afford the legal process. They knew whom to bribe to get green cards though the fast lane. The scum of the universe. I've also known illegals, by which I mean people claiming immigrant status by getting into the country boarding a plane with no passport and then hoping they don't get deported the moment they land. Years, and I mean many years later the crooks are doing the same thing they were doing back home - gaming the system. Illegals? Working their asses off to earn status. Trying to do everything they can to become legals. You people - all you have is blanket statements and stereotypes. How many of you know what it's like outside the US? I've been to Ukraine, Germany, Austria, Russia, Kazakhstan, Japan, Canada. I speak many languages, I have multiple careers. I'm an American and to be honest, I hate modern America. I love the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I love the ideas. I hate the implementation. I hate what the county is. I can't stand the hypocrisy, the entitlement mentality, the Americanism. I can't align myself with the majority. I'm pissed off at most people. I'm not here to make friends or gain popularity. I'm here to learn. Things that I learn from others often make me uncomfortable, so if I make you uncomfortable, it's only fair.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:50 | 6169716 Laddie
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The local school district has just hired Vietnamese new immigrant teachers, NOT the white young ladies and some mature white women who have become INDEBTED to become teachers. There are MORE THAN ENOUGH Whites who incurred SUBSTANTIAL DEBT paying EXORBITANT tuition whilst non-Whites, from Asia, Latin America and elsewhere were treated ROYALLY. In fact a new hire Asian female professor, well she is on the FAST TRACK to professor with tenure, was helped to WRITE her Phd Thesis by the professors at a major university. Her accent is SO THICK that the college students could not understand her. She told them what she thought of that. Asian accents have also caused problems for grade school students. However school districts have LEARNED that it isn't enough that an Asian or other is INCOMPETENT, plus has an almost unintelligible accent, oh no the School Districts have been forced to pay HUGE PAYOFFS and as part of the settlement give glowing endorsements to the incompetent and above all else Asian supremacists. As I said it just as well can be Filipinos or Mexicans ALL are preferred over the Whites in hiring.

Just don't tweet about it in the state of Montana:

Ah, the USSA, just like the Bolsheviks to start again, their end game? WHITE GENOCIDE!
I wonder how long information such as this will be legal in the USSA? Justice (SIC) Kagan (OY) says that "hate speech" is NOT protected by the 1st Amendment, Sonia Sotomayor and the other Jewish judge also agree. You see "hate speech" = TRUTH.
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/trr/
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/thottc/

It Begins! Montana Man Being Prosecuted for 'Hate Speech' and Holocaust Denial

...under Montana's ridiculously broad defamation statute, "defamatory matter is anything that exposes a person or a group, class, or association to hatred, contempt, ridicule, degradation, or disgrace in society or injury to the person’s or its business or occupation." And anyone who "communicates any defamatory matter to a third person without the consent of the person defamed commits the offense of criminal defamation."

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:19 | 6169764 JuliaS
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- I get all those Vietnamese moving into my neighborhood. I don't like it! There's a Vietnamese family living right next door to me! All of these Vietnamese coming into our town! How would they feel if a whole bunch of Americans decided to move into Vietnam?

- Well, I imagine, they'd probably spend the next 10 years fighting a bitter defensive war, with many of them living underground in a series of interconnected tunnels, until through a combination of military genius and ideological conviction they achieve the most spectacular victory over the greatest military power the world has ever known. But then the United States realizes that the territory lost militarily can still be conquered economically, so using the IMF structured adjustment program it pries open the Vietnamese economy to trans-national banks and corporations, thus triggering the financial crisis that leads to the collapse of social welfare provisions, thereby causing doctors, nurses and teachers to migrate to the United States and look for work in branches of Dunkin' Donuts, where they are paid wages so low, they're forced to move in next door to ignorant white trash.

(Robert Newman)

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:26 | 6169803 imapopulistnow
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Those are some pretty wild thoughts you got there...

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:31 | 6169811 JuliaS
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It's an opener from Robert Newman's standup piece "From Caliban To The Taliban". I highly recommend it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Yb5_FwQw1k

If you enjoy it, I also recommend his "History Of Oil" also on youtube.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:47 | 6169856 Handful of Dust
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I don't mind the wealthier or educated Vietnamese or Chinese moving into my neighborhood. They care for their house, mow their lawn and their kids are not out boozing it up 'till 3am or standing on the corner selling [or buying] crack.

 

I haven't seen one beating up a convenience store clerk or begging for money under the highway, either.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:56 | 6170158 847328_3527
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"Not beating up a conveneince store clerk or begging for money under the highway...."

 

How un-American!

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 08:11 | 6171296 Hyjinx
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Oh sure, the noble Vietcong.  The only "victory" they achieved occurred after America was long gone from the country.  What does that tell you?  Their "victory" has kept them under-developed and in poverty by Asian standards for the last 40 or so years.  They could be like Korea but their not! - See American victory.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:08 | 6170051 Baby Eating Dingo22
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9 upvotes?

The ZH clan sees no harm here?

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Here's a sample of the kind of things Lenio has been arrested for tweeting:

USA needs a Hitler to rise to power and fix our #economy and i’m about ready to give my life to the cause or just shoot a bunch of #kikes …

I hope someone goes on a massive killing spree in kalispell school because I'm so poor I can't afford housing and don't care about your kids.

Now that the holocaust has been proven to be a lie beyond a reasonable doubt, it is now time to hunt the Nazi hunters.

#Copenhagen It’s important to note that jews hate free speech & are known bullsh-ters, could be #falseFlag

 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:56 | 6170159 Counterpunch
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" arrested for tweeting"

 

is what I have the problem with.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:32 | 6170097 whoisjg
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1) Hitler wanted peace not war

2) The holocaust never happened. Where is the proof. There is none. The auschwitz gas chamber is a re-creation by the russians.

3) The jews are a destructive force, always seeking to destroy the countries that embrace them by destroying their media, education systems, their banking systems, and pushing endless third world immigration to force enough turmoil that the jews are not singled out for their destructive ways

4) Hitler was right to insist on the expulsion of the jews. While a few good ones may have gotten caught up in it all, the majority were not working in germanys interest

5) the jews themselves kept jews in concentration camps until it was far too late, by refusing resettlement to anywhere but palestine which refused their entry. 

6) Allied bombing caused the starvation of jews in camps, not Germans

7) No pits of bodies of jews have ever been found which were gassed.

8) The only holocaust the jews were part of was the murder and starvation of 40 million Ukranian christians.

9) America is now knee deep in jewish slavery, and the result is impoverishment, endless war, a police state, and endless third world immigration.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 22:53 | 6170738 jmeyer
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Hitler wanted peace !? Read some 3rd grade history.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:46 | 6170132 rejected
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Been waiting for that one,,, Montana surprises me though,,, would have expected California, Oregon or somewhere in the Northeast to be first

I have said this before,,, You cannot eliminate fascism in a voting booth. It has to be killed.

Worse to come...

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:58 | 6170290 Buster Cherry
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So I could go to jail there for saying " Im glad we slauggtered Nazis" or " Stalin was a murdering megalomanic" ????

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:53 | 6169727 MATA HAIRY
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A new life awaits you in the off-world colonies! The chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZNzz4SaTYk

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:54 | 6169729 Miss Expectations
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Here's Senator Thom Tillis (NC, Republican) on the H2B CRISIS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6SgHlkqVFE

Thom specifically mentions the needs of companies like Pamlico Packing.  Here's Pamilico Packing's website: http://bestseafood.com
No mention of Help Wanted.  In fact, after quite a bit of searching, I can't find any Help Wanted for Pamlico Packing. I did find public housing for the area: pamlico public housing - Bing
Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:56 | 6169732 bugs_
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Its been this way a long while - when the government finally acknowledges it.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:59 | 6169733 SmilinJoeFizzion
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At least they're working..The FSA wouldn't lift a finger to be productive or add One iota of value to this country. The FSA is the ultimate consumer. Produce ZERO and consume from cradle to grave off my sweat and taxes

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:05 | 6169752 22winmag
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That is Balkanization rearing it's ugly head again.

 

Permanent underclass.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 14:58 | 6169736 divedivedive
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It is a shame there is no illegal vs. legal statistic available. I would be interested in the 'home' country breakdown. You assume it is Latin American but I'll bet you'd be wrong. Apparently they allow 65,000 H1-B visas per year.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:01 | 6169743 SmilinJoeFizzion
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Indians. San Jose looks like New Delhi without the shit stench in the air

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:12 | 6169770 divedivedive
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The very last job I held in the US was for a decent sized tech company - with half the workforce on each coast (and overseas). Don't take this wrong but I would say that as an American I probably represented perhaps 20% of the workforce. It is such a shame that the US gave away an industry. Perhaps the shareholders benefited but not nearly as much as the 'executive' teams.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:02 | 6170173 Counterpunch
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Boston suburbs have seen ane xplosion in Indian restaurants and dominate the subway cars from certain stations.  I mean, they're working professionals, family people, cant really say a bad word - but - the idea they can't find Americans to do those jobs in the Boston/Cambridge area - is absolute horseshit.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:14 | 6169774 Amish Hacker
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Right, 65,000 "regular" H1-B visas, plus 20,000 "Master" H1-B visas, plus 6,800 more that are reserved for Singapore and Chile. Last year, 172,500 people applied, with fees ranging from about $1,500 to $4,500.

http://redbus2us.com/h1b-visa-2015/

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:34 | 6170103 whoisjg
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265,000 come in each year, not 65,000

 

Most have fake degrees and fake resumes. No real degrees you get in 2 weeks above a curry shop dont count. 

 

Indian doctors scare me even worse. I walk out when I see one. 

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 02:11 | 6170977 RichardParker
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So true.  Dated a girl from Kharkiv, Ukraine who made her way to The US.  Her cousin BULLSHITTED his way into a job at Lockheed Martin by LYING to them that he had a masters in computer science.  He had only had a BS from Ukraine.  Dumbfucks believed him since no one in HR was able to translate his college transcript into English. 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:00 | 6169741 Kreditanstalt
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Shame on ZH...what this article is really demanding is bigger government controlling borders to keep out realistic wages.  There is not an iota of difference between "legal" and "illegal" workers...they're all PEOPLE providing services to those hiring them.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:06 | 6169755 Tyler Durden
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This article is not "demanding" anything. It is explaining why i) there is no wage growth and ii) why ZIRP, which is now "data dependent" on wage growth, won't end.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 16:43 | 6169996 Kreditanstalt
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True...and you did put a disclaimer to that effect near the end of the article...but it's an incitement to the "big tough government/anti-illegal immigrant"  types... 

 

BTW, ZIRP (far more insidiously evil than QE!) will end when yield everywhere nears ZERO, investment (still today defined as "a purchase of debt yielding an income stream") becomes extinct and punters are thus forced into preserving what purchasing power they still retain by moving DOWN Exter's inverted pyramid...

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:03 | 6170041 Inthemix96
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And thats the reason Tyler my Zh tastic friend we cannot be blamed for any of the shit coming our collective ways.

Is it mine or your fault mate we are run by maniacs?  ZIRP, wage growth?

On a long enough........

:-)  Big thumbs up mind for all you do, but immigrants didnt cause what we are living under mate, not a bit of it, but you know that....

;-)

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:15 | 6169777 Duc888
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"Shame on ZH...what this article is really demanding is bigger government controlling borders to keep out realistic wages."

 

Seems like our (USA) biggest problem in the last 50 years is that we (USA) are more concerned with others borders and not the least concerned with our own borders.  Seems to me if you had a necessity for FEDGOV at ANY level that securing our borders would be job #1.  Maybe i'm wrong.

 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:16 | 6170199 Counterpunch
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+100

 

I'm libertarianish in outlook, but also believe in *some* safety nets, and a few "liberal" items to the extent I'm a soft nationalist - I've heard all the libertarian arguments on education and find them to be myopic and stupid.  'selfish' is a moralism that doesn't enter into it - as a country we want and should have an educated populace, and until the private sector can not fuck a huge chunk of people, I'll vote for good public education,.

 

As to immgration, I don't care where you're from - I'd let in anyone with an advanced medical, technical, or science degree.  What I'd stop is the flow of unskilled foreign language speakers. We have that guy already, in spades.  And the anchor baby phenomenom - which may need an Amendment.  It's 2015, not 1915, ad I don't recall getting to vote on whatever was written on the statute of liberty, nor did I agree that it was law, or even a notion that should last forever.  I'd defer to a vote - but not this system of left wing government officials simply ignoring the fucking law.

 

Time for Mexico et al to start addressing their own problems, and stop sending their excess po. to el norte to become Uncle Sugar's problem.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 22:15 | 6170667 plane jain
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Legalize drugs.

Put the Mexican cartels out of business so that maybe Mexico will be a reasonably safe place to live again.

Then make hiring illegal immigrants just not worth it...burden of proof on the employer, not the employee; fine equal to at least a year of full time wages. For the good employees the employers will work to get them legal.

And there is something to be said about natural citizenship by blood instead of by birth.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:58 | 6170293 Oldwood
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If our government is granted any power by the constitution, it is to defend our borders and economy, of which it does neither.

It is pure arrogance to suggest that we can import unlimited cheap foreign labor and NOT effect both our domestic employment AND wages. It is those who either feel relatively safe in their jobs/profession, or are profiting from the cheap wages/prices....or both.

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 14:50 | 6172055 Skip
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Duc888, it will only get worse...
Will Obama-Appointed Dolly Gee Destroy Detention For Illegals?

The anti-democratic Cultural Marxist Left is looking to a radical kritarch, a judge who thinks she is a political ruler, one Dolly Gee of the United States District Court for the District of Central California, for its next onslaught on America. Gee, the daughter of Chinese immigrants and an Obama nominee, has a long history of mandating benefits for illegal aliens, including ordering free lawyers for illegal aliens, something specifically banned by an Act of Congress. Having already rendered a preliminary decision in favor of illegal aliens who were being detained, Gee is expected to issue a final decision soon that may end all detainment—and create a major issue in the 2016 presidential campaign, assuming the Stupid Party notices [Court ruling on immigration could rock Obama, 2016 race, by Emily Cadei, Newsweek, May 19, 2015]

The Left has targeted one of the few remnants of immigration law enforcement by campaigning against the detainment of Central American illegal alien minors and their families [Democratic lawmakers tell Obama to stop ‘jailing’ migrant children, moms by Franco Ordoñez, McClatchy DC, May 21, 2015]. Of course, there’s already a campaign against detaining illegals in general, but now we are being told doing anything about the endless flood of Central American “refugees” who continue to rampage across the border isn’t just wrong, but against the law. [Influx of Central American Teen and Family Arrivals Continues, by Jessica Vaughan, Center for Immigration Studies, March 31, 2015]

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 19:50 | 6176549 Abbie Normal
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"the daughter of Chinese immigrants"

So what?  We're all sons or daughters of some immigrants, unless you're a native American Indian.  The fact that your ancestors arrived a few generations before others should be an advantage due to your inherent generational wealth (or did your family piss that opportunity away?)  Poor, hungry recent arrivals who make something of themselves should be admired, not derided.  They didn't steal your "right" to a cushy job no more than they married "your" women.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:37 | 6169833 JR
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A country without borders is not a country. America's Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 set the country on its subsequent path of destruction.

Congress opened the door to massive population growth by the 1965 Immigration Act. Historian Theodore White, an admirer of Lyndon Johnson, confessed that the 1965 Immigration Act was “probably the most thoughtless of the many acts of the Great Society.” He went on to admit in his book, America in Search of Itself (1982), the changes brought about by the 1965 Immigration Act may end up being key contributing factors in “What could become a catastrophe—the tide of immigration, legal and illegal, pouring into this country. For the under swell, neither the census nor any other authority can provide fully reliable measurements. One starts with the obvious: The United States has lost one of the cardinal attributes of sovereignty—it no longer controls its own borders....”

As the Irish Savant says: “Study the subject and you'll see that the bill was written by Norbert Schlei and pushed through the Senate by Emmanuel Celler and Jacob Javits.  Behind the scenes various presidential advisors and policy makers worked on the same project.  These included Julius Edelson and Harry Rosenfield in the Truman administration and Max Rabb in Eisenhower's.

“It was a Jewish project from start to finish.

“In fact for half a century beforehand, and right up to the present day Jewish organisations have relentlessly - and by now quite openly -  pursued immigration "reform". In reality a plot to substitute European immigration with that from the Third World, while massively increasing the actual numbers.  The net effect being to reconstitute the ethnic makeup of the whole country whereby Whites would decline from a massive majority to that of a minority within a few generations.

“This was (and still is) a carefully planned and deliberately implemented program of destruction.  Be clear: Ted Kennedy's unwitting role was that of goyishe window-dressing to divert attention from the real authors and their malign intentions.”

And now the culture that created the American miracle is being torn out by the roots: its wages, its jobs, and its people. 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:03 | 6170040 Baby Eating Dingo22
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JR

What size hood you wear?

Dem' evil jews are really making your life a living hell, huh?

Per your sources, one of the smallest global religions is responsible for all the world's ills with a history of doing nothing but plotting to destroy everything that doesn't display the star of David

Heil Hitler, huh?

 

 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:16 | 6170200 JR
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“Whatever their situation…in almost every country about which we have information, a segment of the Jewish community played a vital role in movements designed to undermine the existing order.” –Rothman & Lichter 1982, Roots of Radicalism: Jews, Christians and the New Left

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:01 | 6170297 Oldwood
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This is because we always make it easy for anyone to manipulate us. Cheap imports, cheap labor, cheap education, all ultimately become too expensive for anyone to afford, but we keep buying til the bitter end. We would have to be idiots to fall for this shit again and again and again.....or just sheep.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:19 | 6170204 Counterpunch
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I read your red herrings and Hitler card, but could you rephrase? I missed the part where you addressed the argument in any way at all.  Care to?

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 17:39 | 6172456 Blankenstein
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And Norbert Schlei was someone who could be trusted.......      /s

 

"Norbert Schlei, who was once among the nation's top law-enforcement officials, has been convicted of conspiracy and securities fraud in a case prosecutors said involved billions of in fake Japanese Government bonds."

"Prosecutors said that Mr. Schlei and five others conspired to sell fake Japanese Government bonds with face values in the trillions of yen, or about $16 billion. The six were accused of operating the bond fraud from the mid-1980's until January 1992, when undercover agents arrested three of the defendants as a result of an investigation here."

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/01/08/us/former-federal-legal-official-convi...

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:09 | 6170190 Counterpunch
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you reduce people to the same facile homo economicus as newly hatched college libertarians clutching "Atlas Shrugged" still do. There is more to life than what is the best economic outcome {for an employer}.  There's language, culture, shared history, even ethnic/racial concerns which you can take or leave.

 

But even this simple assssment you are off.  Government has plenty of people already on the payroll and tech to control the borders. Instead of checkpoints 100 miles in where the Bill of Rights is abrogated, and arresting people for selling weed in Delaware, how about just using those assets to control the border?

 

There's no "iota" of difference"
 if you don't account for any differences.

 

You're adding population to pay a foreigner at a lower wage {presumably} - where's the American who would have taken the job going to go?  Whom does s/he displace?  Does unemployment insurance enter into it - in which case WE are on the hook to help a private employer save 10k a year.  No thanks.

 

Your race to the bottom and open borders doesn't create a utopia, you fucking idiot.  It creates a handful of oligarchs, destroys the middle class, and eventually turns the US into a shitty 3rd world dystopia in the name of "free market capitalism" which is nothing like a meritocracy or inherently fair or just. It's a government of wolves, and you have some reading, and living, to do to catch up on why this isn't a good thing.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:02 | 6169745 22winmag
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Balkanization: When many of your better jobs and and better neighborhoods are taken over by foreign oligarchs and foreign trash.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:12 | 6169771 JR
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Not only are the jobs of Americans the target for this massive increase in immigration but the assault is clearly intended to displace the white European culture from its traditional lands.

The key factor in this assault is that much of the immigration is coming from the Third World: low-skills, candidates for US welfare and declared opponents of America’s founding culture and economic system. From the 1965 Immigration Act, to switching priorities from Europe to Mexico and other Third World countries, it has become clear that the strategy was initiated, supported by and executed by Jewish factions intended to weaken its primary competitor, the Christian culture.  How do we know this? Because they tell us so.

It is a group evolutionary strategy that the Jews have used throughout history to advance their ethnic group interests over those of Western society.

Earl Raab, former president of heavily Jewish Brandeis University, predicted last century that the Jewish diversity movement in the US would displace the people and culture of America’s founding gentile white stock by the middle of this century both in numbers and influence. He wrote:

“We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this country.”

He continues: “”[W]e [Jews] have been nourishing the American climate of opposition to bigotry for about half a century. That climate has not yet been perfected, but the heterogeneous nature of our population tends to make it irreversible…”

Raab opted for multiculturalism to make America “safe” for the Jews who, the Jewish movement proclaims, can only flourish in a society with no strong ethnic culture.

It is not anti-Semitic to point out the many aspects of multiculturalism taking on America’s founding culture are obviously supported by the Jews: same-sex marriage, abortion, feminism, affirmative action, pornography, removal of all religious symbols from government, youth rebellion against society, and scorn for social mobility and family pride… At the same time “they have led the movement to discredit the traditional foundations of gentile society: patriotism, racial loyalty, the Christian basis for morality, social homogeneity and sexual restraint.”

Or to paraphrase Raab: “Jewish identity can flower in safety only when gentile identity is weak." When Jews make the diversity is our strength argument, the real goal is to dilute a society’s homogeneity so that “Jews will feel safe.”

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:44 | 6170257 Counterpunch
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The problem is, for example, the Chines and Indians and Latin Americans have not been marinated in Holocaust guilt.

 

They will want to ask why a group that preahes diversity and affirmative action is so wildly over-represented in so many key areas, and not in the the US only, but in the UK, Canada, France, South Africa [maybe most of all - the Boer War was an absolutel boon to European Jews and Jews are a big chunk still of south african millionaires though under 0.1% of their population.  Its partly brains in culture, and largely ethnocentrist politics, control of key information and financial power matrices, and ethnonepotism.

 

Consider.  not just that Hollywood is essentially Jewish run, but that it is forbidden to speak about it, to state it as fact is yields the absolute lie that the claim is itself both a lie and one emanating from "hate" - and they have*maintained* Hollywood as a quasi  "closed shop" for decades - immune from civil rights laws and media scrutiny.

 

Jews Boast of Owning Hollywood—But Slam Gentiles Who Say the Same

Cute. 

 

Look at europe - think the French Jews - as in most places they live, a privileged minority with disproportionate media and political and financial power, are safer now than when France was 95% French?

 

Truth is Jews are part of the West and it is their power and the bizarre speech policing around that power that casues resentment for Europeans and Euro-Americans.

 

But the Arabs and Africans and many Latin Americans simply see their wealth and power, and see Israel's war crimes and colonialism, and are less affected by the social conditioning we are.  Many strongly dislike Jews. 

 

I had occassion to talk to a group of Vietnamese people, nothing to do with the mideast or Jews, but in a discussion about buying up run down properties, they started talking about "dealing with the Jews" - even thr off the boat guys.

 

Were I Jewish, I'd have the intellectual honesty to wonder - "is it possible that my people are not reviled for "no reason at all" like we've been taught?

 

Not cool with group punishment, or group stereotypes or violence at all - but this idea Jews were helpless, blameless victims is absurd.  A wealthy elite acted in an ethnocentric manner per jewish religion and culture, and regular jewish people got blamed for it over and over. 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:16 | 6169779 Infinite QE
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This is why the zios were purged out of every single civilized country that they infested. It will once again need to happen to cleanse Amerika.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:18 | 6169784 TheGreatRecovery
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I guess I'll keep saying it till I'm blue in the face: TOO MANY PEOPLE.  Most immigrants come from countries with severe overpopulation.  There are way more people than jobs there, and there are jobs in the USA, so they come to the USA.  The source of the problem is the overpopulation.  Overpopulation is encouraged by big business and big church, because it allows big business to win at the game of more population = more customers + cheaper labor + more compliant labor.  LAW OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND.  The only way to beat big business is to have fewer children.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:51 | 6169869 Prober
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BULLSEYE !!!!

I UPvote your post 1,000,000,000,000

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:10 | 6170308 TheGreatRecovery
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Thank you.  :-)

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 22:00 | 6170638 NoPension
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And when they get here, they breed like fucking rabbits. Don't they know what a rubber is?
I mean, seriously! Why are their Home Countries so fucked up? Overpopulation. Shit governance. Low IQ.

I watched a show about the Ebola epidemic in Liberia. What amazed me most was the way those people propagate. If they had litters, they couldn't bring more mouths to feed. And NO FOOD! WTF?

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 16:09 | 6169916 Infinite QE
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Partially accurate. But what is glaringly missing from your post is the illegality of what is occuring with the zio-administration being documented to be flying in illegals to every area of the nation. There is no reasons to apply for citizenship as this zio-regime has made that optional in their concerted efforts to flood the nation with uneducated-uneducatable dirt bags that will vote for the zios who provide them with EBT cards, free healthcare, etc. etc. This nation is doomed unless this lawless zio adminstration is executed, every last one of them. Civilzed nations know that immigration must be limited to protect the interests of their citizenry, not some zio global banking cartel and their talmud-sniffing minions. Off with them.

 

 

 

 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:09 | 6170301 TheGreatRecovery
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Some people on this board say, "don't vote".  If you don't vote, then how are you going to put into office a Congressman who will vote out EBT cards?

But even if you do vote, you can't make your Congressman vote out EBT cards.

But you CAN choose not to create children, knowing that having those children enriches the big-businessmen and their big-church propagandists, and impoverishes and enslaves your own children.

EPICTETUS said that, instead of using up your energy worrying about the things you CANNOT do, do the things you CAN do.  Choosing to have or not have children is something you CAN do.  Making your Congressman vote out EBT cards is NOT something you can do.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:08 | 6170302 TheGreatRecovery
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Duplicate.     (o:  Second double-value post today.  :o)

Sun, 06/07/2015 - 02:35 | 6170998 RichardParker
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I believe what you are describing is one of the main elements of Cloward-Piven Strategy.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:54 | 6170093 rejected
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Well, they have killed 70-80 million so far,,, how many more do we need to kill to get this economy under control?

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:06 | 6170281 TheGreatRecovery
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Not getting someone pregnant in the first place is NOT "killing someone".

Basic math.  1 is not 3.  9 is not 5.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:20 | 6169789 Duc888
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Hey, here's a business we can captitialize on.  Bring the Somali's in!

 

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2015/06/04/weave-loan-store-to-offer-loans-t...

 

 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:21 | 6169790 Ex Cathedra
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BFD. Employers hire undocumented workers because they pay no penalty. It just makes good business sense to hire workers who can't complain.

The ONLY way to stop this is employer-sanctions. Nothing else will work.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:23 | 6169795 Laddie
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Spouses of Guest Workers Now Eligible for Work Permits Under Obama Actions
May 26, 2015
An estimated 250,000 immigrants would benefit within the next two years.

In February, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Director León Rodríguez announced that, come May, the Obama administration would be extending employment authorization eligibility to a category of immigrant previously ineligible to work in the U.S.–dependent spouses of H-1B immigrants.

DHS began accepting applications under the new H-4 employment rule–which was part of the executive actions on immigration President Obama put in motion on November 20–Tuesday.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:51 | 6169821 falak pema
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Pax Americana oligarchs have two solutions : Slave labour in China or in destitute Bengladesh OR slave labour from south of the border in USA...

Take ya pick USA !!!

But don't burn those who work for nothing  (once again) at the KKK stake of nigga/mehicano "only good injun is a dead injun" mantra of whitey knee jerk ! You can't have it both ways.

Cos thats what oils the US's fake recovery from neo-con USA's steroid fed and over-stretched irrational hubris. We want the chinks and the Mehicanos to work for sweet nothing. 'Cos we are the Empire of Neo-con USA! 

Its so taut the Oligarchy string trying to  hold together the  irrational WS beanstalk's spike headed by the sherpas of lead climbers; pulling along those below caught in the real economic doldrums of those hanging in the K2 type void of student uber-debt;  that you can hear the band play the song of the Titanic in the base camp.

No place for honest men on this hyped, oversold odyssey of media-mad fake alpinists trying to show the world that the FED/USD are kings of the world.

Man, is the Himalaya expedition now becoming a dangerous game beyond our capabilities ! 

We all look like the destitute in Nepalese earthquake dystopia. The West has lost its Magellan Compass ! 

THe spice route may escape its control...and DAT is the end of Portuguese/Spanish Main hold on the world!

Can you see Botticelli/Raphael/Michael Angelo paint that awesome about-turn in the US political Vatican, you clowns of Papal demise?  

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:35 | 6169824 Government need...
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The lack of wage inflation in the US due to numerous factors, and the illegal immigrants are merely a secondary factor.  I view illegal immigration as a major issue for the US, BTW. 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:42 | 6169834 reader2010
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You ain't seen nothin yet.  TPP calls for one billion population for the US.  Anyone in the TPP countries can come to work in the  US. If you are not a billionaire/ dual citizen and  you’re trapped in the dream of the Other, you’re fucked. 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:51 | 6170146 DutchBoy2015
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TPP and TTIP  IS the New World Order.  With USA/Israel controlling Asia and Europe.

 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:44 | 6169848 Prober
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FINALLY THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY LATIN INVADERS IS REVEALED !!!!

THE SOCIALIST PARASITES, LEAD BY THE OBOMINATION AND THE CLINTON GANGSTERS, WANT TO ERASE THE SOUTHERN BORDER AND LEAGALIZE *ALL* THE INVADERS - AMERICA IS DOOMED.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 16:10 | 6169920 Duc888
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Dude, North American Union, where the fuck have you been for the last 20 gdamned years.

 

 

 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:51 | 6169867 henry chucho
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Only in Amerika,can a native born citizen feel like an illegal immigrant (and get treated worse than one,too)..WTF?..I feel like a tourist in my own country..

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:49 | 6170141 DutchBoy2015
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Now you know how I felt.  I escaped the USA in 1989. I was a naturalized citizen but never felt ''at home'' in the USA.... EVER.  After Vietnam that became more pronounced.

I officially renounced last year and went back to country of birth.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 15:59 | 6169885 I Write Code
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I wonder what the productivity numbers are for all those legal and illegal aliens.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 16:00 | 6169888 silverer
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OK, so now how about a chart to show how the votes changed since this big import.  After all, isn't that what is was all about?

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 16:19 | 6169929 itstippy
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I'm an old fart.  

Growing up it was "common knowledge" that Mexicans were an inherently lazy bunch, preferring to take long siestas and slouching about under their sombreros rather than engaging in real work.  America was prosperous because our Western European genetics and Puritan work ethic combined to make us the most hard-working, smartest, and God-blessed people on Earth.  Mexico was poor because their heritage was one of laziness and ignorance.

Fast-forward a few decades and the "common knowledge" is that Mexicans are fucking Super Workers.  They'll toil all day for low wages and strive like Hell to provide for their families.  They'll invade this country by working their asses off and never taking time off, driving wages for native-born Americans down to third world levels.

What the Hell happened?  Did Mexico start flouridating their water or something?  Why are these formerly lazy loafers now indefatigable labororers? 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 16:34 | 6169975 reader2010
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the reason that they can get by on a dime is that they cant get in debt for useless feel-good shit without legal status while the native-born are born debt serfs. 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:25 | 6170083 JR
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What happened? A complete change in US policy providing open borders to Third World immigration, legal and illegal, offering full welfare and a menu of financial support to bring foreign workers into take US jobs for welfare-subsidized wages.

Both political parties and the last several presidential administrations have helped US employers to push American workers aside for the cheaper labor stream.

A Latino policeman friend of mine described the result of this invasion in San Jose: “On duty, I see block after block of Hispanic housing, women without husbands, large families on welfare and unable or unwilling to name a single father of their children, most with household furnishings and clothing better than my family can afford.”

Washington has made Californians pay for the national programs that it forces upon California, all primarily related to immigration.  Major corporations, seeking an ever increasing low-paid labor force put pressure on federal and state law makers to make Californian tax payers pay the increased costs for healthcare, housing, welfare, and education for the families in this labor pool.

As property taxes increase to meet the exploding costs in education and welfare, the lobbyists and media strike back with charges of discrimination when any of these programs falter. For instance, Latino household suffered nearly 50 percent of California foreclosures and loan defaults during the housing bust and ninja loans. And immediately the San Francisco Chronicle outlined how government programs were underway to relieve defaulting residents and help them stay in their homes. 

According to the account, Latinos at the time represented 36.6 percent of California’s population, and received 29.9 percent of all mortgage loans originated between 2004 and 2008.

Next will come the fallout of subprime auto loans and the media cries of high-interest discrimination against minorities and a call for their tax payer bail out.

Latinos are now the largest single racial/ethnic group in California at 39%; whites down to 38.8%.

http://rt.com/usa/latinos-majority-california-political-lightweights-466/

The Huffington Post wrote (4/22/14: “The University of California has offered freshman admission to more in-state Latino students than white students for the first time, a change that reflects the state’s shifting demographics.

“Fall 2014 admissions data reported by the Los Angeles Times showed that 28.8 percent of California residents accepted to one of nine UC campuses were Latino, bumping white applicants as the second most accepted group and increasing Latino acceptances by nearly a thousand from the previous year. At 36.2 percent, Asian Americans still make up the largest ethnic group among accepted students. “

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 22:45 | 6170709 JR
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@ Fall 2014 admissions data reported by the Los Angeles Times showed that 28.8 percent of California residents accepted to one of nine UC campuses were Latino, bumping white applicants as the second most accepted group

NOTE: Here is how the UC Board of Regents were able to sweep aside Prop 209 passed by California voters in 1996 to prohibit admission ratios by race (affirmative action), sex or ethnicity in the UC system, causing overall minority enrollment to plummet at UC's flagship campuses.

They changed the rules and here is how they did it..

Only a limited number of applicants to the University of California system are admitted and the new rules dramatically changed the type of students eligible for admission. Before, SAT subject test scores had guaranteed high school students to be considered but the new rules remove these barriers to allow “a larger and more diverse pool of applicants than UC has previously drawn.”

The UC Regents made all who rank in the top 9 percent of their California high school class eligible for UC admission, regardless of that school's academic standard..

In other words, the Regents opened up opportunities for a new group of high school seniors and barred from consideration previous groups that had been based on individual achievement alone

Hispanics represent California's largest ethnic group. According to the California Department of Finance, among 15- to 19-year-olds in California, 49.4% are Hispanic, 29.2% are white, 10.9% are Asian and 6% are black.

Let it not be forgotten that former head of Homeland Security and Jewish lesbian, Janet Napolitano, was named the 20th president of the University of California system on July 18, 2013.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:00 | 6170296 scatha
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Do you remember stupid and poor Chinese commies riding bamboo bikes. They are gone now, man, only US was as they say "Left Behind" with its empty imperial rhetoric.

They were the same Anglo-American oligarchs blaming everything on commies or lazy Mexicans who sold us out to the same commies in China and Europe for pennies.

The immigration policy implemented for decades was devised solely to suppress wages for Americans and  together with massive outsourcing caused Great Middle Class Depression (GMCD) lasting already quarter of century.

It was deliberated policy of US government hijacked by multinational oligarchs that got us to this point. Next stop TPP, TTIP and extermination.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:51 | 6170410 Wahooo
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No. You are simply confusing lazy with dumb and hard-working with smart.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 16:18 | 6169937 Vin
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You used the wrong terminology.  It's illegal aliens not immigrants.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 16:53 | 6169976 Billy Bob101
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Congratulations ZH for breaking this story.  As I understand things, illegal/undocumented aliens are not covered by the Affordable Care Act, so they can work a full schedule without the employer being required to pay for their health insurance.  I suppose it is covered by the Feds (taxpayers).

The southern border is wide open.  The border patrol has been ordered to complete the smuggling process by giving them identity documents (in whatever name they choose), work documents, and giving them transportation to where ever they want to go.  You may have noticed them in your neighborhood.  It only stands to reason that they would have preference in getting a job.  There are 40,000,000 more of them on the way. 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 16:52 | 6170018 Death By Cold S...
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This is the Damdest thing I have ever read in my life. This will be shared across all my social media sites....

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:01 | 6170034 PleasedToMeatYou
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Ross Perot had that "giant sucking sound" going in the wrong direction, in some ways. 

With the USA artificially birth controlling and intrauterine infanticiding our own children, the labor demand pulled our workers from the south. Without immigration of all sorts, USA population would have shrunk considerably over the last few decades.  This is our demographic, economic, and cultural winter folks.  Party while you can, or save your soul if you are a longer term thinker. 

How many of you have immediate family members under 20 who are willing to pick strawberries, bus tables, wash dishes, work construction labor, etc.?  There's a reason it is now hard to get those jobs without Spanish language fluency.  'Dem jobs is fo' chumps, or losers, and were stigmatized long ago as beneath most Americans. 

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:41 | 6170117 whoisjg
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when the wages to pick crops werent lowered by illegals, whites routinely pictched in and di that work in the summers. know your history please.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 18:42 | 6170253 JR
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And the reason America established a 9-month school year in the beginning was so that the children could help out with planting crops and harvesting, as well as providing summer employment for students.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:14 | 6170317 Oldwood
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The reason WHY Americans won't do this work is because THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

Redistribution providing entitlements and debt have replaced the low wage laboring jobs. Debt is providing redistribution as much as taxes as all of the "bad debt", the subprime losses, is pushed back either onto government (taxpayers) or those borrowers who do pay their bills, through higher interest rates. If you wonder why consumer credit interest rates are so high, a lot of it is loss coverage. Look at those interest rates SCUSA is charging on subprime auto debt...16%. That is interest costs that those who do pay their bills are paying to cover the loss on those who do not.

Debt and redistribution are drugs and our society is addicted. Addicts are not typically productive other than to feed their addictions.

As immigrants find pathways to entitlements, they too will join America in the true land of Utopia.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:21 | 6170075 DutchBoy2015
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And then people wonder why educated professionals are leaving the USA/

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 19:50 | 6170406 Wahooo
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I hope all the MBAs leave.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:37 | 6170111 number06
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".... were low-paying, low-quality jobs, primarily teachers ..... " thats an interesting indictment.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:49 | 6170139 MEFOBILLS
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I was going to point out the 1965 immigration act, but JR beat me to it.  I like it!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-06/illegal-immigrant-recovery-pres...

To add further, the Kennedy clan was murdered by Kabala methods.  Every death was planned on a numerology date, or when constellations were in occult alignment.

To have Ted Kennedy be Goyish front man for 65 immigration act is synchronicity that Zionists love so much.  Ted must have been compromised, or was in fear of his life.  Ted was Lion of the Senate, or so the compromised "press" told us.  This act was funded by usury from private credit banking system.  I am a fierce critic of usury based private credit because people groups are funding their own dispossesion and becoming enslaved.  Stop watering the weeds with usury from Credit Money.  Stop funding your own demise.  www.sovereignmoney.eu   Chunk the debt based "jewish" credit system into the ash bin of history.  

The Ford foundation is another example of this synchronicity; Henry for was an ardent anti-semite who published the Dearborn Letter.  He was attempting to warn Americans about a present danger.  But Alas, American's from the past were trusting sheeple, the same as today.  This high trust is a function of evolution, in turn an output from the last ice ages, where to trust meant to be able to survive.

The ford foundation has since been taken over by our favorite tribal friends.  This illuminist combination of Kabala and money power is a very serious threat to high trust consensual civilization, and kabala enjoys this sort of thing - the plotting to take over the world, as if it is a game.   In the end, their female Messiah will be ensconsed in her rebuilt Temple.  (Yes, rebuilding the Temple is very high on the to-do list.)

A message to third world immigrants going to America Europe and other formerly white zones.  You represent a threat if you engage in low trust behaviors.  You represent a threat in R type breeding behavior, where large amounts of progeny and low investment mean that white social structure has to raise your kids.  This is the action of a Cow-Bird, which kicks out of the nest the original bird, in order to take rents from another's mother.  

A civilized society has little or no rent-seeking, which is really parasitism.  If you are an immigrant to a formerly white society, and your intent is to suck up resources and act as a cow-bird, you know who you are, and you are a thief.

If you are a predatory white person, who wants to use the immigrants labor and pay them slave wages, you also are engaging in rents.  You are stealing the immigrants wage value, and also destroying opportunity for your fellow whites, especially teenager whites who need jobs.  The cow bird is also sucking up resources, somtimes in excess of their labor value, and they may inject low IQ DNA into society at fast breeding rate.  It is not polite to say it, but third world immigrants are not necessarily the best and brightest ...they are economic refugees and hence ...stupid.  You cannot fix stupid.  High trust High IQ immigrants may be absorbed.  But, low IQ thieves, How is that Good?  It is only good for the Zios who what a compliant population of dumb animals they can control.

A low trust society is not one that is pleasant to live in, where neighbors distrust neighbors.  Typical low trust societies are found in the middle east, including Isra hell.

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:50 | 6170143 luna_man
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And we're still not ready to declare WAR on these CRIMINALS?

 

it's time to starve the ILLEGAL and hang the CRIMINALS

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:52 | 6170150 rejected
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Well Merikans. Hate to mention it but most, if not all,  of the employers of these 'immigrants' are...... Merikans.

So.... who's to blame again?

Sat, 06/06/2015 - 17:55 | 6170154 Counterpunch
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But, is it good for the Juice?

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