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The "Illegal Immigrant" Recovery? The Real Stunner In The Jobs Report
Traditionally, when it comes to job numbers reported by the BLS's Establishment (the source of the monthly nonfarm payrolls change) and Household (the source of the monthly unemployment rate data) surveys, there is a substantial discrepancy. However, in May's far stronger than expected report, the two for the first time were almost identical: the Establishment Survey reported an increase of 280K jobs, while according to the Household survey 272K jobs were added.
Impressive numbers in a month in which only 215K jobs were expected to be added.
There were the usual kinks, of course. Two thirds of all jobs, according to the Establishment survey, were low-paying, low-quality jobs, primarily teachers, retail, temp help and waiters (something even CNBC has been forced to acknowledge):
This has been the case throughout the recovery, and helps explain why while wage growth while barely rising for all workers, remains depressed and even negative inr eal terms for production and non-supervisory workers, which account for 83% of all US employment.
There were other curiosities: the vast majority of jobs added in May, over 200K, were in the 20-24 age group, and the number of self-employed workers mysteriously soared by 350K to 10 million.
But the biggest surprise came from Table 7, where the BLS reveals the number of "foreign born workers" used in the Household survey. In May, this number increased to 25.098 million, the second highest in history, a monthly jump of 279K.
Assuming, the Household and Establishment surveys were congruent, this would mean that there was just 1K native-born workers added in May of the total 280K jobs added.
Alternatively, assuming the series, which is not seasonally adjusted, was indicative of seasonally adjusted data, then the 272K increase in total Household Survey civilian employment in May would imply a decline of 7K native-born workers offset by the increase of 279K "foreign borns."
But while all of these comparisons are apples to oranges, using the BLS' own Native-Born series, also presented on an unadjusted basis, we find the following stunner: since the start of the Second Great Depression, the US has added 2.3 million "foreign-born" workers, offset by just 727K "native-born".
This means that the "recovery" has almost entirely benefited foreign-born workers, to the tune fo 3 to 1 relative to native-born Americans!
How does the BLS determine a foreign-born worker? This is its definition:
The foreign born are persons who reside in the United States but who were born outside the country or one of its outlying areas to parents who were not U.S. citizens. The foreign born include legally-admitted immigrants, refugees, temporary residents such as students and temporary workers, and undocumented immigrants. The survey data, however, do not separately identify the numbers of persons in these categories.
In other words, the "foreign-born" catogory includes both legal and illegal immigrants unfortunately, the BLS is unable, or unwilling, to distinguish between the two.
As a result, it may well be, that the surprise answer why America's labor productivity (which recently posted its worst 6 month stretch in 22 years) has plummeted in recent years and certainly months, confounding economists who are unable to explain why "solid" labor growth does not translate into just as solid GDP growth...
... and why wage growth has gone precisely nowhere, is because the vast majority of all jobs since December 2007, or 75% to be specific, have gone to foreign-born workers, a verifiable fact. What is unknown is how many of these millions of "foreign-born" jobs have gone to illegal immigrant who are perfectly willing to work hard, and yet whose wage bargaining power is absolutely nil (after all they are happy just to have a job) thereby leading to depressed wages for native-born workers in comparable jobs, resulting in wage growth which over the past 8 years has been non-existant.
Incidentally, this is the same lack of wage growth which has allowed the Fed to pump some $4 trillion into the stock market. Because far more than merely a domestic politics issues, the lack of wage growth and downstream inflation, is precisely what has permitted the Fed to maintain QE as long as it has.
In other words, how many illegal workers cross the US border, may be the biggest variable shaping US monetary polic at the moment! And, in thought-experiment land, the more porous US immigration policy the longer the Fed will be allowed to maintain its ZIRP/QE experiment, and the higher the S&P will rise.
Could it be that illegal immigration is the best friend of that 0.1% of the US population which has benefited exclusively from the Fed's relentless injection of liquidity into risk assets via either ZIRP of QE?
Note: this article is not meant to side on either side of the illegal immigration debate: the upcoming presidential elections will do enough of that. It merely seeks to fill a gaping hole in economist models which are unable to explain or rationalize why America's seemingly "booming" jobs recovery, which is "firing on all fours" according to the BLS, is not manifesting itself in either inflationary pressures, or broad economic productivity.
Source: Native-born workers; Foreign-born workers
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Isn't Obummer a "Migrant worker"?
Nah, he's a Migrant Community Organizer.
And then they want to fast track major global free trade deals, cause it will only lead to massive consolidations that will leave many domestic oportunities dead in the water and many jobs (good jobs if the`re are any left ) could be lost...again.
This... from ImmigrationReform.com:
Secret Immigration Provisions of Trade Deal Revealed by Wikileaks
June 4, 2015
On June 3, WikiLeaks released parts of the TISA (Trade in Services Agreement), which is related to the TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) agreement. However, it is still a separate agreement and would be ratified separately. One of the TISA annexes/sub-sections they posted covers “Movement of Natural Persons”, linked here: https://wikileaks.org/tisa/
The focus of the Movement of Natural Persons annex appears to be business visitors and intra-company transfers. Most of the proposed agreement deals with standards for visa applications (30-day deadlines for processing, fee schedules, etc.).
There are red flags throughout the document including:
http://immigrationreform.com/2015/06/04/secret-immigration-provisions-of-trade-deal-revealed-by-wikileaks/
Well we know who is behind all of this massive immigration into our homeland:
Look up Barbara Spectre Lerner. Here is a video of what she had to say about who is behind 3rd world immigration into all of Europe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Vq_e2Z1ug
There is another member of the same tribe, Anetta Kahane in Germany saying the same things: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuYKtwnzG7M
Mugging Americans: ObamaCare’s Jonathan Gruber And Norbert Schlei Of The 1965 Immigration Act
Norbert Schlei Interview
The TPP Managed Trade Deal And The Danger Of Informal Immigration Promises: More Evidence
By Peter Brimelow, former Editor, Forbes Magazine on May 19, 2015
Last Task After Layoff at Disney: Train Foreign Replacements
By Dan Stein
Disney Laid Off Americans to Bring in Cheap Foreign Labor
“The employees who kept the data systems humming in the vast Walt Disney fantasy fief did not suspect trouble when they were suddenly summoned to meetings with their boss. While families rode the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train and searched for Nemo on clamobiles in the theme parks, these workers monitored computers in industrial buildings nearby, making sure millions of Walt Disney World ticket sales, store purchases and hotel reservations went through without a hitch. Some were performing so well that they thought they had been called in for bonuses,” the New York Times writes.
“Instead, about 250 Disney employees were told in late October that they would be laid off. Many of their jobs were transferred to immigrants on temporary visas for highly skilled technical workers, who were brought in by an outsourcing firm based in India. Over the next three months, some Disney employees were required to train their replacements to do the jobs they had lost.”
http://immigrationreform.com/
And this one along with many similar in intent:
California Bill to Give Health Insurance to Illegal Aliens Advances
“The California Senate voted on Tuesday to allow unauthorized immigrants to buy health insurance on a state exchange created under the U.S. Affordable Care Act, a measure that would make the state the first to offer that kind of coverage. The Senate voted 28-11 in favor of the proposal, which still must be approved by the state Assembly and signed by the governor, said Jesse Melgar, a spokesman for the bill’s author, Senator Ricardo Lara,” Reuters reports.
“Ira Mehlman, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which calls for restrictions on immigration, said the bill would unnecessarily cost California taxpayers and strain the state’s healthcare system. ‘It’s just one additional step that the California legislature is trying to take to eliminate any legal distinction between illegal aliens and legal residents of California,’ Mehlman said.”
http://immigrationreform.com/2015/06/03/todays-immigration-headlines-june-3-2015/
Fuck slave work, government and money (the three deadly sins).
ponders the impact of service workers and sales of viagra now impact on productivity growth - i mean is it up or down, so to speak.. do large increases in certain service sector jobs and manufacturing that produce ummm..body fluids...add or subtract from "productivity" if those people who ...umm...indulge... aren't doing something else "productive"
that is, is india, china, europe or the us now more or less productive now that prostitution is treated as part of gross? domestic "product"?
http://www.havocscope.com/number-of-prostitutes/
5m hookers in china with 1.5 billion people...
1m hookers in the US with 0.3 billion people
looks like a constant hooker ratio that can be built into GDP ummm...output models
Where are all the oil field layoffs reflected? Because I sure as hell haven't seen them!
This implies there are huge numbers of illegals, very unlikely. The US is exceptionally fortunate to be in a position where top class professionals still want to work and live in it.
The current annual limit on H1-B professional work visas is 65,000.
what about the L-1 and B visas that are being used by the corps?
That's a minuscule portion of the foreign born workers in the U.S. who are here legally.
For each engineer, then add visas for his parents, inlaws, uncles, aunts, cousins, etc.
At least 10 or 20 per.
Enough to staff 3 shifts at the 7-11.
Stop with this nonsensical paranoia! Only dependent spouses and minor-age children are allowed to come over with the visa worker; and they all have to go back when the visa expires in 2-3 years. There is no converting it into a green card while they're here on the visa.
One of my co-workers who is a naturalized citizen just had her brother join the family, after applying and waiting for 20 years!
yes, it is hard to find people these days.. there are over 5 million OPEN positions according to the most recent JOLTS (job openings & labor turnover report).. so how is that number 'wrong' or 'cooked' ???
this site is really reaching here and splitting hairs to the nth degree.
A - "native" workers graph is on upward trend
B - where do these 'illegal' immigrant workers work ?? other than working as nannys off the books ie. those haitian woman you see pushing carriages of white children on the upper west side of Manhattan on any weekday.. I simply don't see it at all here (these 'illegal immigrants' ) in the greater Boston area. You have a huge army of college kids to do the jobs that 'americans don't want to do' and many get paid pretty well $20 an hour and up in most restaurants & retail stores especially outside of Boston since it is nearly impossible to find people because the economy is booming in this area
Article is a little misleading. There are a lot,of foreign born workers - from China (huge rise in immigration), India, Middle East, Africa. These aren't,t sharecroppers.
Where do these illegal immigrants work? Everywhere.
Go to states like California and see for yourself. There are entire neighborhoods filled with recent immigrants where English is rarely heard.
Boston is just a little behind the rest of the country.
OY! OY! Silly little goyim. I tell you this yesterday. But you no listen. You must learn to listen to your rabbi.
From yesterday by the the rabbi:
"Kvetch stupid goyim. Only see corner of puzzle. Rise in jobs from non-white refugee UNHCR resettlement foreigners, non-white temporary work visas, non-white illegal aliens. Whites being laid-off to make room for taxpayer funded influx of non-white hoards. Kosher tribe very busy. We busy displace and dispossess white Caucasian population. Make you minority in own country. Soon all whites bow to dusky races elevated above them by kosher tribe. Oy Vey!!"
So true, just what we did to the American indian. Threw him out, displaced him and took over all his land.
It's happening here, take a look.
But, not the majority of jobs since 2010 - where the percentage is reversed. Ah, fun with numbers.
Silly Gringos! Your orange juice would cost $15/gallon if not for Latino laborers.
/www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg3WFt72RM8
And maybe we would all have jobs, significantly less government theft and overhead, and could afford $15/gallon orange juice.
Heh, heh... and maybe you'll start shitting gold nuggets too.
/www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5QFm0qeAlk
Face it Pancho. You lost the argument.
This is not about the price of orange juice, it is about the fact that if Mexico (which is run by Mexicans) was such a great place to live, you wouldn't want to live here.
I don't support Americans of white European descent that are willing to sell out their culture for cheap labor either, on that point we agree.
What this is really about is the fact that Americans don't want America to become like Mexico - and that means we would prefer that Mexicans that think like you do return to Mexico - and live in a country that reflects your culture, values and capabilities.
Next.
Hey Pancho Once you and your amigos have dropped the average wage down to zero who the fuck is going to buy any orange juice? Nothing like importing the worst of the place that you left to the place that you decided to emmigrate to.
It does cost $15, and more.
The hidden cost is paid through the welfare burden of supporting a vast EBT network that includes the heavy weight of increased costs for subsidized housing, food, education, roads, Obamacare/Medicaid and the inflation that keeps the banks in a ruling position to provide for open borders and prostitution payments to the Congress and multinational corporations.
This higher ”cost” for orange juice is leading to an economic crisis, an explosion that will occur when the American middle class producers can no longer lift the burden, i.e., when they run out of money.
"primarily teachers"
Judge Rules Second Version of New York Teachers’ Exam Is Also Racially Biased June 6, 2015
This is Baltimore law where inequality outcomes that favor race overrule equality under the law.
Here we have the fact that “the pass rate for African-American and Latino [teacher] candidates was between 54 percent and 75 percent of the pass rate for white candidates” interpreted as racial bias and, therefore, the test is ruled discriminatory. And why is it discriminatory? Because:
“According to the city’s Department of Education, while 25 percent of the city’s public school students are black and 41 percent are Hispanic, 60 percent of its teachers are white. Fifteen percent of the teachers are Hispanic and 18 percent are black.”
IOW, the test didn’t produce a race quota.
Once a system awards achievement to a student who has achieved less than that of the student rejected who has achieved more, then the resulting benefit of education to society begins to be destroyed – e.g., the UC Regents’ decision to widen its acceptance pool of high school students to include more “diversity” as opposed to strictly academic standards, and now the New York teachers’ exam that will subject students and their futures to inferior educators based on outcome standards.
ZH - your headline is sounding a little biased towards the undercurrent of bigotry that runs deep in America. When the economy is in trouble - blame Hispanics. Reader "Pancho de Villa" is right to take you to task for this.
JOBS are moving to foreign workers because they are willing to work for LESS PAY. And to be treated like cr*p. Welcome to the new Feudal System in our economy. Why should we raise our eyebrows? The USA lost a lot of its manufacturing base. We became a Service Sector economy running on a binge of debt purchasing. Now things are starting to even up.
BACK in 2006, when the housing boom was clicking along (and nobody gave a r*ts *ss about bad loans) - I used to see Hispanic workers on roofs at 5:30 am in the morning in L.A. Those guys were working their butts off. the economy was humming. they were building houses galore. And nobody cared - because "America was making money". But now times are tough, suddenly it's "blame the Hispanic worker" time.
TRUTH is - I have never seen a Hispanic guy in the unemployment line.
That says a lot about the pride and the abiility of Hispanic people to DO SOMETHING to keep earning money. Maybe we should be taking a few tips from them?!
Hah, I am in central California's San Joaquin Valley and surrounded by all sides by Hispanics. The exploitation of free services is just the beginning of what they seek in the relief from their escape from living in an unstable government ruled by drug cartels and corrupt policia and govt officials (Mexico). Lie, Lie, Lie. Take all you can get. Give NOTHING back. Discrimination? When I enter an office and look into the eyes of an Hispanic worker, I see the door shut, little to no information is what you can expect, the wrong information is more likely than not what you get.
WHO HATED WHO FIRST: Fuck off.
A Canadian
There's some truth in both the above messages. But it doesn't matter... at all. Let each individual, regardless of what categories you can put them in, enjoy/bare/suffer the consequences of their actions, and their actions alone.
Of course, that would require all predators-DBA-government be eliminated.
"TRUTH is - I have never seen a Hispanic guy in the unemployment line."
Either you are blind or you haven't been to an unemployment office in years.
In California, some of them collect unemployment while at being paid under the table.
At least in Chicago, you have to go to thee right neighborhood and there the entire unemployment line is Hispanic.
we need more jobs in mcdonalds
So can one of you guys please clear something up for me. As an eduated, motivated, and employable Canadian it is very difficult for me to enter the U.S. and become a resident, get a job, pay taxes etc etc. But on the other hand a dirt poor, uneducated Mexican can pretty easily run across the border and take away a low level job from an otherwise employed American pretty easily. Then he or she can eventually just stay and invite mom and dad to live with him/her.
Why do you elect these people who "represent" you? Why is there not a third (really second because America is now a one party state) choice?
Why?
Because politics is entertainment for people too stupid to understand the complex plots of pro wrestling.
Because all candidates need to be "kosher" and the cabal will character assassinate any candidate in the media that represents a threat to their agenda - regardless of which party they represent.
Incidentally, on this metric Canada is as bad as the US. Do you think that I, as an American, could get a job in Canada? It is for the same reasons.
Mr. Lee H. Oswald tried a third party approach to politics but it wasn't as popular as he hoped.
For years the tech industry has outsourced jobs to Asia and has been pushing for ever more H-1B visas. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and other very wealthy Silicon Valley leaders formally launched a political group aimed at influencing U.S. immigration policy to bring in more H-1B visa holders.
Who is Behind Mark Zuckerberg's Immigration Policy? Backing Zuckerberg's group are other very wealthy tech leaders such as:
LinkedIn.Com CEO Reid Hoffman (net worth: $3.1 billion),
Facebook's Sheryl Sandberg who is the CEO of LeanIn.Org (net worth: $2.7 billion),
Ruchi Sanghvi of Dropbox.Com, who was Facebook’s first female engineer, and Joe Green, a former college roommate of Zuckerberg and the founder of Causes.Com.
Venture capitalists John Doerr (net worth: $2.7 billion) and Jim Breyer (net worth: $1.2 billion),
Major financial contributors include:
Google Chairman Eric Schmidt (net worth: $8.2 billion),
Netflix CEO Reed Hastings (net worth: 4.4% of Netflix's shares, including stock options),
Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer (net worth: $300 million),
SpaceX and Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk (net worth: $2.7 billion),
Zynga Inc. CEO Mark Pincus (net worth: $1.8 billion),
former Groupon Inc. CEO Andrew Mason (net worth: $390 million)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/12/1201127/-Facebook-CEO-Wants-Mor...
Instead of moving manufacturing to a low labor rate country, move the low rate labor here.
It's because white americans are lazy and entitled. Bunch of douchee douche baggers! Oh and Tylers, you guys suck donkey balls bitchez! Ha! #AndWhoDontLikeIt
The Vultures of Desperation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbTe8SJIurE
Jun 5, 2015 TheRealNews
Rome ... just like Rome.
When tribune Tiberius Gracchus marched on Carthage, as he left Rome he noticed all the foreign slaves employed in the fields by the elites for nothing. The ordinary Roman was unable to earn a living and yep they were fleeing the farms in the end because of the level of taxation while the elites "WERE TAX EXEMPT".
The mechanism if the top gets all the liquidity and does not pay tax it falls to government to take that liquidity back and put it back into the economic mechanism.Nah, modern world we don't do that we just keep using CTRL-P to print the stuff just like the FED because big gov cannot take the EXCESS liquidity through taxation from those who bribed them why big corps are stockpiling cash.
In the end if those at the bottom cannot afford to consume the economy stagnates.
The bribery is endemic in society yet everybody screams when FIFA is chased down by the FBI for corruption. So amusing in fact, in an honest society FIFA and corruption could never exist, exposed on every turn but able to grow being fed daily in a totally dishonest society. Now look at your politicians, FIFA is a symtom, politicans are no different.
This is quite idiotic. America is a land of immigrants and a meritocracy, unlike Europe and other primative places. This is proof the American dream is alive and well, people can come here and acheive, with the right skills not the where they are born. I think this Zero Hedge guy is from Australia or Bulgaria, some un-American place.
Alex, - post your zip code. I want to see what type of people you like to live with. I like to be with whites. While living in gritty Chicago for 40 years, I found all third world peoples to be repulsive.
If you like to be with whites, there are a lot of white people in Russia....
America is a land of LEGAL immigration on a very controlled basis. At least historically. For example, large waves of eupropean immigrants stopped in 1924, primarily due to the National Origins Act.
correct, and they all went thru Ellis Island where they were thoroughly screened for disease, etc. and many were denied entry.
there are film docume taries showing this process.
You are brainwashed and spew bullshit. I lived 35 years in the USA and was an immigrant. Now living 26 years back in Europe where I was born. There are just as much opportunities here as in the USA , in fact MORE. I actually tripled my income the day I left the USA in 1989 to take overseas job.
Suggest you get educated.
Tyler, thank you for highlighting the illegal immigration issue in the context of the recovery (or lack thereof). This issue is illustrative of more fundamental problems with our society.
Predominantly white European countries are now reaping the bitter fruit of bankrupt ideologies that are destroying the very European culture upon which our (and arguably the rest of the world’s) prosperity and civility is based.
Some of the more damaging ideological movements and the fallacies that resulted from them are listed below:
Boasian Anthropology (and related dogma) - the belief that all races and peoples are the same, that race and sexual distinctions are a social construct, and that environment (as opposed to genetics) is the primary determinant of culture and prosperity.
Resultant fallacies:
· Diversity is a strength – even though this conflicts with reality and history
· Affirmative action - is required and will work
· Feminism – the destructive belief that the sexes are equal, when in fact we should celebrate the fact that each makes an important, but different contribution to society and culture
· Cultural Marxism – the belief in the elimination of cultural distinctions to increase the manageability of the masses and undermine power structures that might compete with the cabal
· White genocide – the systematic implementation of policies which are intended to disadvantage or eliminate peoples of white European ethnicity in whole or in part - as defined in international law
Private Central Banking – the belief that the creation of money and the control of the economy should be left up to corrupt private cabalist interests using debt and fiat currencies.
Resultant fallacies:
· Cabalist control of the world economy to further only its interests
· Distorted allocation of capital based on bad policy
· Destruction of the monetary system
· Wealth concentration that is not based on merit
Economic Globalization – the raw optimization of world-wide economics without consideration for any issues other than short-term production cost – as distinguished from proper international trade which respects the cultural and economic interests of the nation.
Resultant fallacies:
· Death by economic starvation of the nations and cultures, whose identities, virtues and values provide the lifeblood of proud, productive and sustainable societies
· Displacement of peoples from their own societies in the name of economic efficiency into societies where they will never fit, resulting in violence and social conflict
· unfair market displacements due to cultural differences and policies that prevent a level playing field between nations
· Destruction of creative economies in the name of lower short-term production costs, in exchange for lower innovation, quality and value over the long-term
· Theft of intellectual property to the detriment of the peoples that created it
· Concentration of power in a parasitic globalist cabal that has no loyalty to any of the nations upon which it feeds
There are obviously other important “failed ideologies”, but I think that these are the ones that most directly relate to the observations you have made in this article.
I think it is significant that all of these ideologies were initially advocated by and are currently lead by members of the cabal.
Unless I missed something important, americans are all illegal immigrants. The Constitution, although well written is also illegal.
You missed something important. America was created in large part by the industrious nature of white European immigrants that came from related (although not identical) European cultures.
Even if the immigration that we are currently experiencing were legal, it is the nature of that immigration, not its illegality that is the issue.
America's immigration laws were changed in a destructive way in 1965, largely through the efforts of the cabal, such that the ethnic composition of American society could be changed. In many cases, even the legal immigration that is now occuring in America is destructive to our European culture.
Most of the illegal and legal immigration that is occurring in America now is of peoples that come from cultures that are completely unrelated (and in some cases hostile to) European cultures. Many of these immigrants have also not expressed any desire to assimilate into those European cultures - they are migrating for purely economic (or in some cases subversive political, e.g. La Raza) reasons.
For this reason, the nature of the immigration that we are currently experiencing in America is fundamentally different than the immigration that occurred in the past - which created an America that was a mix of fundamentally compatible European peoples.
People have a right to protect their culture. Wanting to protect your culture does not make you a hater, it makes you a realist.
The constitution was a revolutionary document, and in that sense it may have been illegal when evaluated within the context of the legal regimes in power when it was written. However, as I have also articulated above, illegality per se is not the problem - although it is a problem for societies that create laws for valid protective reasons.
If we use your reasoning, then all of mankind, save Adam and Eve in their original habitat, would be illegal.
As for "Americans are all illegal immigrants," again using your reasoning, that would have to include the Indians:
“There has been so much concentration on the native Americans found in possession when the white man came that little thought has been given to those who preceded them (such as the Anasazi)… It is time white men understand that most of the Indians found in possession were latecomers, and all too little was known and who had preceded them.” – Louis L’Amour, Jubal Sackett
“The Indians that the white man met were no more the original inhabitants of the country than were the Normans and Saxons the original inhabitants of England. Other peoples had come and gone before, leaving only their shadows upon the land…” –Louis L’Amour, Haunted Mesa
As to the claim that America’s southwest was Mexican territory, it was not. It was New Spain territory, defined as “the former Spanish viceroyalty (1521-1821) in North America including the southwest United States.”
from Encyclopedia Britannica Colonial Period 1519-1821:
“The conquest of the Aztecs by a Spanish force under Hernán Cortés between 1519 and 1521 inaugurated the colonial period of Mexican history. Mexico remained part of the Spanish empire until the establishment of independence in 1821. Along with neighboring regions, it was officially known as New Spain. …
“Near the end of the 16th century the northern frontier of New Spain in most areas was close to the present Mexican-United States boundary line.
As for the Pilgrims relationship with the Indians, Duane A. Cline writes in The Pilgrims and Plymouth Colony for teachers:
“The Pilgrims had a deep and sincere friendship for the natives that endured for over fifty years. Nine thousand years of coping with the wilderness had ceased with the arrival of a more advanced culture. Rugged cutting steel blades, farming tools, trim clothing, warm blankets, glass and metal containers and ornaments that no stone or shell work could duplicate-all these were available for trade. The Indians had all the makings of a good trade-plenty of pelts and a surplus of land. Outside their planting fields and villages lay vast tracts of unused countryside....
“Land transfer was not a simple matter. The colonial laws guarded the rights of the natives. Only through qualified agents could purchases be made. Interpreters must be present, as well as several witnesses for both parties. The Indian owner or his family must be present for the formal signing, for unlike communal tribal lands of the western Indians, much of the land was owned by individual tribesmen. Finally, the sachem must also add his mark if he were in agreement. If all this puzzled the land-rich warrior, he may have been aware of his rights under English law. And when all was said and done, he generally retained his right to hunt and fish on the property.....
“The peaceful relations between the Pilgrims and Indians had lasted 54 years, during the lifetimes of the Massasoit and the original members of Plymouth Colony.
That's a fundamentally useless argument. Either its all legal or its all illegal. Plus, yoiu missed the big picture. The US has 50% plus unemployment. Who gives a fuck if a few thousand more illegals come and steal jobs that no one else wants to do? Your kids will never find decent work unless they're exceptional or they move overseas to the next empire.
It’s kind of hard to answer somebody who uses circular reasoning.
Its kind of hard to answer someone who avoids the message and shoots the messenger instead.
Okay, please explain: "The US has 50% plus unemployment. Who gives a fuck if a few thousand more illegals come and steal jobs that no one else wants to do?"
I've read a few articles on ZH recently that stated that there are 93M long term unemployed in the US. The US working population is around 190M depending on how you measure it.If that figure s correct then there is 50% plus unemployment. That figure is further obfuscated by the increase in government employees, by the 2M prison inmates and by Reagan changing military service to be classed as "employed." Add the official BLS 5% and it doesn't look pretty.
The consititurion didn't really define illegal immigration. Aside from WW1, the first international US passports were issued in 1941. Until that time, anyone was welcome to enter the country. Labeling people illegal immigrants is just another divisive term to avoid the real issues facing the US and most other western countries.
...and over the course of the next century, wiped them out, just like the buffalo.
And it was German-Jewish immigrant Franz Boas (1858-1942) who “almost single-handedly established the current contours of anthropology, ridding it “almost single-handedly of all biological explanations for differences in human culture or behavior. … He and his followers—with the notable exceptions of Margaret Mead and Ruth Benedict—were all Jews with strong Jewish identities: ‘Jewish identification and the pursuit of perceived Jewish interests, particularly in advocating an ideology of cultural pluralism as a model for Western societies, has been the “invisible subject” of American anthropology.’
“By 1915, Boas and his students controlled the American Anthropological Association and by 1926 they headed every major American university anthropology department. From this position of dominance they promoted the idea that race and biology are trivial matters, and that environment counts for everything. They completely recast anthropology so as to provide intellectual support for open immigration, integration, and miscegenation. They also laid the foundation for the idea that because all races have the same potential, the failures of non-whites must be blamed exclusively on white oppression” – the justification for enormous government intervention programs.
“The Role of the anthropologist became one of criticizing everything about Western society while glorifying everything primitive”…deliberately ignoring “barbarism and cruelty or simply attributed it to contamination from the West.” – Hornbeck review of CofC
Of the very small amount of construction going on around here (very, very wealthy ski area type resort town POP 10,000) I see literally, zero Gringos on-site swinging hammers. ZERO. I think all the pale faces left town when the SHTF in 2008.
Someone said there is 0% unemployment among advanced degree holders in applied sciences. My neighbor is a 15-year fisheries biologist with a PhD. $20.00 hour. No benefits. You can't survive around here on $20 per hour.
Last year I was in the US and the guy who made my coffee evry morning at the local coffee shop was a genetic scientist who had worked overseas for three years. His department was closed down due to reallocation of funding. Read: funding only gets approved for research investigating global warming.
Mijev: let me correct that for you: "funding only gets approved for research CONFIRMING global warming." nobody wants to really investigate it.
Well, aren't these the low paying jobs Americans don't want?
Where's those high tech skilled jobs they were talking about?
My advice: learn to speak Spanish.
What a bunch of Entitled, Lazy, Greedy, Pathetic Hypocrites! You are Exceptional because You are Americans You scream! These illegal "aliens" are taking our jobs, you cry like a Bunch of Babies, from your mommy's basement"! Your Government created these so-called "Problems" of illegal immigration, yet I have not seen a single mention of Gov't Anywhere! As I recall, in the 1980's and '90's, Employers could be fined $1,000 per illegal immigrant they had working for them! You did Not see illegal immigrants, Period. The very few that were here generally lived in a small dirty room sans Heat or AC in the very same horse barn where they worked most of their day shoveling shit!
When our Corporate Owned Gov't no longer needed cheap labor they simply changed the Laws, or quit enforcing them as they are now doing again, recently switching to deporting about a million a year! This is a repeat of what happened in the 1930's when things got so bad that even gringos would do shit work. What did you get out of That? Marijuana Prohibition, Idiots! Research it for yourselves if you do not believe me, but back then there did not exist such "Safety Nets" as 'Social Security' nor 'Unemployment Benefits', Foodstamps, etc… Grapes of Wrath, Motherfuckers! Work or Starve!
There are some exceptions here, like PrimalScream, or VelvetHog, whom I applaud for sticking their necks out and taking all of those "downvotes", but far too many half-baked postings abound. I see shit like, "And maybe we would all have jobs, significantly less government theft and overhead, and could afford $15/gallon orange juice." Just WTF are you trying to say there, OldFool? With Your strawberry-picking job you'll be able to buy $10/pint strawberries? Another 'stand out' posting, "Hey Pancho Once you and your amigos have dropped the average wage down to zero who the fuck is going to buy any orange juice?" Tell me, DonutEater; precisely how are myself, and my amigos "dropping the average wage to zero"? I just used orange juice as an example, but the same applies to all produce, as well as Construction costs, etc. Sure, there are those that have learned to abuse the system, just as so many of you gringos have Taught them to, even if they learned by observation only!
Sometimes I'm embarrassed by my fellow gringo's; although an acquaintance dubbed me a "Mexican Gringo", observing my negotiating skills in purchasing a hand made leather hat and vest in Chihuahua, ha! But that's irrelevant. Throughout Mexico are both lazy And hard working folks! Sitting in the shade on the shore of Lake Chapala drinking tequila, I witnessed about a dozen Mexicans in a field not 200 yards away planting corn by hand, on a Sunday! Didn't matter to them, it was planting season and the corn doesn't plant itself!
Getting back on topic, for a site who's readers largely pride themselves on their anti-Gov't opinions, I wonder how you can All be so Bigoted as to blame the more enterprising and for the most part, Hard Working peoples that sneak up here for shit jobs when You should be putting the blame where it properly belongs, on YOUR Government! When the 'Unemployment Benefits' and such are broke and no longer paying jack shit, I wonder how many of YOU will finally find out that orange trees have nasty thorns?
Now get out your six shooters and fire away! I don't care, I'm already dead anyways! Heh, heh, heh…
Can someone help: do they still make English language billboards in America? I haven't seen one in quite a while (being in a blue state) and I'd like to take a field trip to show my kids. Thanks in advance.