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Republican Election Strategy: Blame The Putin "Boogeyman"

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Back in 2009, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presented Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov with a US-Russia diplomatic “reset” switch. The gift — a yellow box with a big red button — said “reset” in English on the bottom and “peregruzka” on top. The problem: “peregruzka” doesn’t mean “reset” in Russian, it means “overcharged.” “Opechatka” is Russian for “typo”, Clinton’s adviser later wrote in an e-mail to reporters.

("overcharged")

One annexation, one bloody proxy war, innumerable thinly-veiled nuclear threats, and six years later, and the only thing that’s been “reset” in US-Russian relations is the Cold War. 

Now, as Republican presidential hopefuls ramp up their campaigns, GOP candidates will likely point to Vladimir Putin as the embodiment of everything that’s wrong with Democrats’ foreign policy and Clinton’s famous “reset” button ceremony in Geneva provides the perfect opportunity for the GOP to tie the presumed Democratic nominee to a failed attempt at reconciliation with America’s Cold War nemesis.

(the "reset" circa 2009)

Reuters has more:

Something about Vladimir Putin makes Republicans in the U.S. presidential race see red.

 

The Russian president has emerged as a symbol for what they view as President Barack Obama's weak foreign policy, and an easy route for criticizing his former secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, the Democrats' likely choice for the November 2016 election.

 

"I think it will resonate with Republican voters," said David Yepsen, director of the Paul Simon Public Policy Institute at Southern Illinois University. "There's real concern about what Putin is really up to."

 

Republicans believe the "Putin as boogeyman" theme serves well as a way to rally the party's base of supporters..

 

Republicans link their criticism of Putin to the foreign policy record of Clinton, who as the chief U.S. diplomat carried out Obama's "reset" in relations with Moscow in 2009, soon after Obama succeeded George W. Bush as president. They say Obama and Clinton eased up on Putin when they should have applied more pressure.

 

"She’s the one that literally brought the reset button to the Kremlin,” Rick Perry said in April.

Token gifts and friendly rheotric aside, it's certainly debatable whether Washington's position towards Russia and Vladimir Putin is materially different now than it was in the past.

After all, the idea of Putin as a political "boogeyman" bent on invading sovereign territory in an effort to illegitimately expand Russia's borders is the official US narrative on Ukraine and that storyline has been pitched to Congress in an effort to secure lethal arms shipments to Kiev. Meanwhile, NATO snap drills and troop movements in Eastern Europe have become commonplace, as has the notion of "preparedness" in the face of what the West pitches as an imminent threat from Moscow. Meanwhile, the US is dusting off Cold War "containment" policies and discussing stepped up sanctions and the deployment of additional US troops in order to "deter" Russian "meddling" in European affairs. 

In other words, US foreign policy is no different than it's always been: characterized by the projection of US military superiority and a sense of American exceptionalism and entitlement. Nevertheless, Reuters notes that should a Republican win The White House, relations with Moscow would deteriorate further:

No leader abroad draws more Republican criticism than Putin does. The candidates' message is clear: If any of them are elected president, U.S. relations with Russia will turn even more negative...

 

Jeb Bush, soon to announce his presidential campaign, says he would like to make Putin "twitch a little." He will reinforce his message of a more strident foreign policy toward Russia on a trip this week to Germany, Poland and Estonia.

 

Another candidate, former Hewlett-Packard Co Chief Executive Carly Fiorina, calls Putin a "bad dude." She boasts of having sat face-to-face with Putin in 2001 to bolster her claim to having foreign policy chops.

 

Putin was the only leader outside the United States that former Texas Governor Rick Perry mentioned in his presidential candidacy announcement speech on Thursday.

 

"Vladimir Putin uses energy to hold our allies hostage," he said. "If energy is going to be used as a weapon, I say America must have the largest arsenal."

As for Putin, he can "take the heat", Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told Reuters, before suggesting that the Republican-Democrat distinction is largely meaningless because when it comes to relations between Washington and Moscow, sacrificing diplomacy at the altar of US politics is sadly par for the course.

"Unfortunately, for probably the whole of modern history we have seen bilateral Russian-American relations being made a sacrifice on the altar of the election campaign.”

 

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Mon, 06/08/2015 - 12:57 | 6174786 Batman11
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We probably need some help from Putin to deal with our oligarchs.

 

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:01 | 6174800 ted41776
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yes comrade

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:13 | 6174858 0b1knob
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The way Republicans act you would think Putin had invaded another country and annexed part of its territory. 

Oh wait....

 

Let the Putin lover down votes begin!

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:22 | 6174886 knukles
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The Republican base is not motivated by Russia.  The Republican Party is at war with their very own base.  It's the neo-cons who call themselves republicans and conservatives (lunatics, all) that think this way.
The Republicans so far, are just about guaranteed to lose this election against Hillary, of all the weakest candidates the Democrats could run.

Thanks Republican Party, for making Hillary a shoe-in!

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:28 | 6174933 Freddie
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The Republicans are no different then the Dems.

They sold out the GOP base voters with not stopping Obola on:
1. Amnesty- open borders.

2. Obamacare - GOP has done nothing. Ted Cruz is on his wife's Goldman Sachs healthcare plan. He even said so.

3. NeoCon scum working hand in hand with NeoLibs for AIPAC and ZATO, Z-IMF.

The Republicans are no different than Obola, the scum Cintons, Bushes, McCain et al.  They are all puppets of Soros and the Z-oligarchs,.

 

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:46 | 6175027 Fun Facts
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The politico class are pure zio theater for the donkeys.

Left/Right is a bankster divide and conquer tactic enumerated over 100 years ago in the protocols.

Regardless of what they call themselves or the lies they tell to get elected, they are all puppets under complete control of the ZWO money that put them in the seats.

Most of them are eminently blackmailable pedophiles.

There is no party today for small limited government or that believes in the US constitution.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 15:39 | 6175648 Took Red Pill
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Absolutely! Seems like the perfect opportunity for a third independent candidate but they have ways now of keeping them out of the race. The POTUS doesn't have the power to make any real changes anyway.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:30 | 6174943 Dr. Engali
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I'll bet you a sandwich that Shrillary will not be our next president. I doubt she will get the demoncrat nomination.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:46 | 6175023 Winston Churchill
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So you win a shit sandwich either way ?

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:47 | 6175031 NoDebt
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OK, I'll bite (no pun intended).  Is it going to be Bernie Sanders?  That dude from Maryland, whatshisname?  Liz Warren changing her mind and jumping in?

I'm not betting you any more sandwiches until I pay up on our last bet (which I'm not willing to do yet, but will be sometime around September when it's abundantly clear I've gotten my ass kicked).

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:12 | 6175139 Dr. Engali
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Personally I think O'Mally will get the nomination.  The demoncrats will want to show that they haven't totally abandoned the white male and Shrillary has too much baggage that comes along with the old bitch. Although... she too could pass for a white male.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:16 | 6175158 NoDebt
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Might be right.  At least half of me is saying there's no way she can keep going dragging all that baggage behind her.  Let's face it, she's a criminal (even excluding the people she and Bill have had killed).  But then I meet with a Hillary supporter and you.... you just wouldn't believe it.  They're not just ready to give her a pass on that, but they see it as a sign that a woman knows how to play with the boys.  It is scary stuff.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:37 | 6175307 greenskeeper carl
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I think along the same lines. I feel like she has WAY too much baggage to possibly get into the White House. But the same group of people wanted 4 more years of Obama, so who knows. Hillary voters either don't care about all the baggage, or think it's all a bunch or republican lies (I never mention the trail of bodies, most people will stop listening if you mention that). As bad as things are likely to get once the facade of paper washes away, I can't imagine why any of those people would want the blame for it, even though it will be mostly out of their control. If a republican is in office, it will be blamed on their. ( nonexistent) free market philosophies. IMO, the best person to have in office in that scenaris would be Bernie sanders. But Clinton would do too.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:56 | 6175434 drendebe10
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The country needs another Cunt-on or Bush as much as it needs a third term with the incompetent fudgepacker.... 

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:40 | 6175330 roadhazard
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I'm going to go with, Hillary can't take the heat and E. Warren is nominated at the Convention.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:46 | 6175365 Stumpy4516
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If "they" want Hillary to win she will win.  But they do not seem to want her based upon the stories that they have allowed their msm outlets to broadcast to the people.  Something about her bothers them.  I think she is known to be unstable in private and they do not want her to go so bonkers while in office that she causes some form of activism. 

I found many years ago that women just LOVE to see another woman be a ruthless, hatefull, unapologetic ball buster.  If a woman gets a position of power in an office and uses it to make life hell for men, and justifies it by promoting women have been victimized crap, the other women in the office will idolize her.  Even women who say they are happily married.  Makes you wonder.

Liz Warren carries the lesbian vibe that would get many women to vote for her along with her fake activism veneer.  But she is weak and cannot pull in the full female vote or brutally inact the next phase of their agenda.

I really would not want to be the winner with a woman as vice president.  If that happens I'll bet the winner gets taken out and the blame put on a target (not China maybe Russia or even a middle east country/group).

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 15:54 | 6175714 NihilistZero
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Unless it's Rand Paul, I'm pulling for a Democrat win.  Best thing you can hope for is gridlock which will push the Federal Government into irrelevance.  If you get a Bush, Rubio or any other status quo Republican spending will explode and crony capitalism will be even more super-charged (If that's possible LOL!)

I'm SINCERELY hoping for a Hillary presidency.  The last time a GOP Congress spent all their time fighting a Clinton president the rest of us got relatively left alone...

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:19 | 6174887 samjam7
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Why? Ignoring your ignorance feels so much better!

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:22 | 6174896 Haus-Targaryen
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Well all know that Ukraine isn't a real country anyhow.  

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:34 | 6174970 Winston of Oceania
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Says the Russian troll...

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:42 | 6175008 0b1knob
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Paid Russian trolls get specific phrases they are supposed to use as often as possible.

"Ukraine isn't a real country" is one of those phrases.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:45 | 6175018 where_is the_nuke
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How do you know? Coming straight from JPost, moshe? Hasbara trolls there use this phrase "Palestine is a fake country" very often.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:21 | 6175188 0b1knob
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The use of awkward phrases is another way to spot them.  They think in Russian and then translate it into English.

For instance:  "Well all know..." where a native English speaker would say "Everybody knows..."

 

Unbounded admiration for Putin is another tip off.   Putin is a dim witted child molestor thug who wants to start WWIII to compensate for his micropenis.

Everybody who agrees with me vote this post down.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:32 | 6175276 Max Steel
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When others stop believing in your propaganda start calling them trolls and conspiracy tin foil hatters . How convenient .

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:43 | 6175347 greenskeeper carl
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Anyone who reads my comments should know that I have no love for Putin, I think he is a statist authoritarian, no friend of the libertarian or anarchists of the world. But you are out of oour mind if you say he is the one being belligerent. By your(and McCain)'a definition, anyone not bending to warshingtons will is trying to start WWIII. Putin doesn't have over 1000 bases world wide, not is he waging an illegal drone war anywhere, he has not invaded anyone, he has not toppled any governments, and he has not thrown an entire region into chaos, killing millions in several wars based on lies, while supplying arms to his own enemies.

You need to pull your head out of your ass. Or don't, have fun at your Jeb bush rally.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 15:25 | 6175590 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

The use of awkward phrases is another way to spot them.  They think in Russian and then translate it into English.

Ah, jingoistic patriots and sarcosinates.

Yeah,  that is. The guilty you've found it. Well done, take aunt Nuland cookies.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 17:19 | 6176001 farflungstar
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hahaha there's always one - no matter who the USSA picks a fight with, it's ALWAYS that person or nation's fault, right? AmeriKa Uber Alles is a song even Ukrainian fascists can sing to. Retardo from Ukraineland says so under heavy fire from those thousands of invisible Russian tanks and troops. Only a paid Ukrainian troll or an imbecile would give two flying fucks about that corrupt shithole they couldn't find on a map until St. Obama the Democracy Builder told them to have an opinion about it. God what a peacemaker that guy is! No wars started or continued on his watch!

Surely you know all about his micropenis from firsthand experience, yes? All I see are AmeriKans and israelis threatening war all the time. AmeriKans have been ruled by closeted fairies and twats for so long, tired windbags all spouting the same talking points that they have forgotten what an ACTUAL man looks like. Too bad Putin is not inclined to automatically bend over and kiss your fat AmeriKan ass like the UK and all the other Euro fruits, eh? DON'T THEY KNOW WE SAVED THEIR ASSES IN WORLD WAR II!?!?" 

Fuck the Ukraine, let Putin pay for it instead of USSA taxpayer.

 

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:08 | 6175131 Volkodav
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"Ukrane A History"  Orest Subtelny

Author of Ukraine heritage explain it to you...though not difficult to understand

 

better worry about your own country.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:01 | 6175096 Volkodav
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Ukraine has never been a sovereign nation.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:31 | 6175266 Icelandicsaga.....
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Republican Rep Dana Rohrbacker   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TpZa4OMFVk  Who invaded . you have proof of this do you .. really .. must have goten it from up your ass cause it does not exist .. WE spent give billion toppling the elected govt of Ukraine .. oligarchs they may have been . . only to replace wiht our oligarchs . .one thing bout nocvons . like you . you do fascist so well..after awhile you start believing our own lies.     http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/08/06/us-military-deploys-team-o... YOU tell me . which country where we have interfered is better offf . NOT ONE . .Ukraine will end up like he BALKANS . .our other great crusade partially against he evil Russians . NO country we have 'helped is better off .. Ukraine is no exception

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 16:40 | 6175901 dsty
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what is the matter with you?

don't you know ZH loves Russia?

dirty bastard!

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 16:41 | 6175907 farflungstar
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Imagine USSA satellite imagery can see a flea on a horse's ass from miles up in space but can't see a massive Russian invasion force in the Ukraine nor ISIS's flag-draped Toyota pickup convoys racing across open desert. 

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 16:58 | 6175908 farflungstar
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Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:48 | 6175380 Model T
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We never had a cold war nemesis. We were our own enemy; still are. the whole "cold war" thing was a propaganda coup by the Military-Industrial Complex.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:52 | 6175404 drendebe10
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....stupid fukn elected political ruling elite.... they ain't called republiCANTs for nuthin....

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:00 | 6174796 NoWayJose
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If the Republicans concentrate on Putin, it will get Hillary elected. More Americans fear ISIS than Putin.  And you cannot say Obama had any success with ISIS. 

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:11 | 6174848 localsavage
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Most people could give a shit about either.  They are too bust trying to deal with their bills.  The Obama recovery has only been successful for Wall Street and the bankers.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:22 | 6174895 knukles
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Bingo!  The cover of Time or Life or something or other at the store today's cover asked "Whatever happened to the American Summer Vacation?"
Didn't read Joe's letter to Hilsenrath that other day, I guess, no?
LOL

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:30 | 6174948 Freddie
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ISIS and the Ukriane are the Z-oligarchs kabuki.  They looted the Ukraine.

ISIS is more defense contracts for Krinsky-Crown that AIPAC crime family.

 

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:13 | 6174861 Billy Sol Estes
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More afraid of what my Dell desktop is caching than ISIS.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:24 | 6174902 NoWayJose
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Sorry dudes,  but more Americans DO fear ISIS more than Russia.  I don't argue that ISIS is an American made invention, but 'radical Muslims' get great headlines when they chop off heads.  Radical Muslims have committed more terrorist acts in the US than anything Russia has ever done.  And if you think I am wrong -- watch Bill O'Reiilly!

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:38 | 6174994 Freddie
Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:48 | 6175034 where_is the_nuke
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But that will only prove how pathetic the Murican sheep are. ISIS can't do a thing to USA(except Zio false flag). But you keep poking the bear and you will be nuked. And how it would be like? Check my avatar.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:45 | 6175354 roadhazard
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ISIS gets way too much press. It's hard to lose ground when your opposition is running away. The Kurds have shown they are no big deal.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 16:42 | 6175909 dsty
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right

they are only cutting off real heads

mangling children and raping woman

so what's wrong with that?

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 17:02 | 6175972 roadhazard
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So are the Saudis chopping heads.  And I don't care, savages will be savages. It's not our problem.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:23 | 6174881 JustObserving
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More Americans fear ISIS than Putin.

That tells you all that you need to know about the stunning ignorance of Americans:

ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”

The fact remains, however, that the US, the major European powers, and their regional allies all previously lent financial, military and political support to ISIS and similar groups, which have “Made in the USA” stamped all over them. They have, until now, played a significant part in Washington’s efforts to overthrow the regime of President Bashar al-Assad in Syria, as part of a broader effort to gain control of the region’s vast energy resources and transit routes.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html

In any case, fear is a potent tool in politics especially when the populace is so ignorant and the media is worthless:

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

 

H. L. Mencken

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:53 | 6175056 F0ster
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I fear the Neo Con MIC more than Putin. Our secrt US Gov is preparing to blow up the world.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:01 | 6174803 q99x2
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Bad idea.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:03 | 6174814 CPL
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iknorite.  Putin has a higher polling rating in the USA than either party at the moment.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:04 | 6174815 SpeakerFTD
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Let's just hope John McCain enters the Republican field.  His level-headed pragmatism is just the tonic to defuse any antagonism.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:43 | 6175013 Kirk2NCC1701
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And Palin too.

The world needs more Palin material (SNL, YouTube, xvideos*), especially since she was the highest ranking US official to "See Russia from her house"

* "Nailin' Palin" 

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 16:44 | 6175920 dsty
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God

I just love libtard jokes!

No one ever laughed at Obama's 57 US states

whoops 

57 Muslim states, countries

not 57 US states

and other phoopahs too numerous to mention

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 18:40 | 6176293 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Stop whining and curb your butthurt.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:12 | 6174851 kchrisc
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Everyone is to blame but the "Dancing Mossads."

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

 

Funny how that works.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:13 | 6174857 henry chucho
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If Putin ran for President of the USSA in 2016,on a platform of banishing all incumbent members of the house and senate to re-education camps in Outer Mongolia,he'd win by a landslide..

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 18:36 | 6176273 kchrisc
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Won't work unless Zion's Amongst are packed off with them.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:14 | 6174863 CarpetShag
Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:47 | 6175029 lakecity55
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Shot in a terrorist attack that has been covered up.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:14 | 6174864 Panic Mode
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Blame the retard voters.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:42 | 6175012 Fun Facts
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or the rigged polls.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:17 | 6174877 Normalcy Bias
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Hey, maybe they can butch-up Lindsssey with some leather and guns! That'll save 'em!

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 15:35 | 6175635 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Lindsey Graham - Heck Bent for Leather!

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 16:45 | 6175928 dsty
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there you go

projecting your own fantasies.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 18:34 | 6176264 TheFourthStooge-ing
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And here you moron, no doubt sitting on the trunk. With bedbugs.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:22 | 6174880 Bankster Kibble
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The Republicans sound like PM Tony Abbott from Australia - a lot of trash talk about Putin to get the constituents riled up, but actual fact-to-face meetings will likely be much more civil than they boast.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:22 | 6174897 stant
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Chinas going to be the problem

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:25 | 6174913 Dr. Engali
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I personally look forward to the opportunities for laughter the idiots running for the presidential selection will provide us. Who can forget memorable moments like this:

Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry - Dueling CornDogs

https://youtu.be/7I95IFwxkrY

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:25 | 6174914 nakki
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Never underestimate the stupidity of the handlers of the clown show knows as US Government. The majority of people I know, know its all one big shit show. Only the truly feeble minded MSNBS, FOX viewers believe there's a difference. One the incredibly idiotic repeat the same topics that they hear from MSM. 

The only threat we have to fear is that more money will be thrown to the globalists those that could give a rats ass about people, or countries. Those who steal wealth through war profitering and fear mongering. 

Better ramp up the cold war again, those scary Russians are coming for us. By the way didn't Russia go bust 2 times in the 1990's. Seems like defaulting isn't that bad after all.

 

 

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:30 | 6174951 chunga
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I never turn my back on anybody that votes because who knows what other crazy things they'll do.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:34 | 6174971 Freddie
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ALL of TV and Hollywood is for idiots.  MSNBS and Fox are as bad as the rest.  It is all brainwashing shit and if you watch it - you support it.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:41 | 6175007 aliki
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im a fan of scott walker - primarily because of how he inherited a state that was $2 billion in the red & got it $500 million in the black inside 3 years, survived a recall (3 elections in 4 years), christie pulled $$$ on him when he was in a dogfight the 3rd election (christie runs the GOP govenors association and is scared to death to debate walker because here in NJ, christie made our fiscal situation WORSE than what he inherited from corzine (all 3 debt ratings companies downgraded us post-christie in office based off his idiotic economics).

end-of-the-day, im hoping walker is the candidate because he seems more cut from a CEO mentality where he will focus on reducing debt/deficit & IMO he would not be a war hawk looking to piss in everyones backyard. while id much rather see ron/rand paul on the repub ticket, its most likely not gonna happen cuz they just don't draw the $$$. pretty much all thats wrong with politics but this country won't survive another 4-8 years of obama and thats exactly what we'd get with clinton/sanders/warren.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:44 | 6175015 lakecity55
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Republican Strategery: Let Hill and Bill buy us off!

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:45 | 6175021 SirBarksAlot
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https://youtu.be/WDiEHxbyqyI

HR 14 the redacted 28 pages from the Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 2001

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:51 | 6175044 NOZZLE
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Clitory is a lazy drunken buffon (who ejaculates Raid Black Flag) too stupid and uncurious to even take 1 minute on google to find out there is no peregruzka.

Want to get along with Vladimir, sit down with him in a relaxed setting at his favorite monastery and listen, dont talk to him just listen. Very simple. You are not going to push him around or threaten him he will scorch your fucking balls with a torch

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 13:52 | 6175053 Mike Masr
Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:19 | 6175177 NOZZLE
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Mike, Thanks for reposting that article I missed it.  

And whoever downarrowed me for calling Clitory an incurious drunk who ejaculates Raid Black Flag, youll figure it out when you are looking at your shattered teeth on the ground in front of you. 

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:19 | 6175174 Icelandicsaga.....
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The article mentions CArly and Jeb.. LOL . .hardly a lot of republicans . although I have do doubt he war party tends that way ... surely a few men in the GOP have more sense ..... some with foreign policy cred . if not we are truly screwed.... But if Jeb gets in .. we already will have a tyrant nincompoop running things.... I wonder where the statemen are ..... surely not in the GOP.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:24 | 6175207 praxis
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I doubt Rand will play that card.  

That being said the Neon Cons/Democrats/War Party/Pentagon shills are going to get us all killed. 

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:25 | 6175215 nakki
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Lets not start sucking Vlad off either. Pretty sure he's cut from the same megalomaniac cloth as the majority of our political class. 

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 16:50 | 6175943 dsty
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ZH is sleeping.

Anti Putin alert!

Anti Putin troll alert!

Calling all Putin trolls

0300 Russia time.

wake up comrads!

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 18:55 | 6176347 TheFourthStooge-ing
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You apparently burning sensation in the anus, with Putin the cause of.

Calling all Putin trolls

0300 Russia time.

wake up comrads!

Good laughings. Russia eleven time zones has, so nearly half every day 0300 somewhere in Russia is.

You with expert 'american' analysis shreds there. Impressive.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 20:39 | 6176715 silverer
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Let history be the teacher.  Russia was in Germany.  Left.  No bases.  Russia was in Afghanistan.  Left.  No bases.  Russia had millions of soldiers in Manchuria when it was occupied by Japan.  Liberated.  They left.  No bases left behind.  USA:  "Liberate" the subject country.  Build bases.  Pull a John Belushi: "The Thing That Wouldn't Leave".  Stick it to the US taxpayer, their children, and their children's children.  Find new places to start wars, repeat.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:28 | 6175232 Everybodys All ...
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Who in their right mind would want to be president as this train wreck begins in earnest.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 15:00 | 6175450 cheech_wizard
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Ding ding ding, we have a winner!

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 20:52 | 6176764 silverer
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Think about it.  Look at the guy we have now.  He's not president.  He just signs stuff.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:40 | 6175328 BoPeople
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Republicans will ABSOLUTELY lose the election (not that it will make any difference to you or me) if their strategy is to be gung-ho warmongering haters. Our war-weary country is tired of lies about this bogey-man or the next bogey-man.

People are also tired of the Pentagon paying for half time hero advertisements and priority boarding at airport for the poor kids that can't find real jobs and need to go into the military.

Where are the adults?

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 16:47 | 6175930 dsty
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dude

what makes you think there will be another election?

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 16:54 | 6175951 anachronism
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You are not paying attention to the Main Stream Media. Zionists -left and right- want this war on both Russia and Islamic State. Regardless whether you watch CNN, MSNBC, FOX, NBC, CBS, ABS, and even PBS they are all down on Russia and ISLAM.

Sanders and O'Malley may dress themselves up as "True Progressive" Democrats, presenting Clinton as a "Privileged" Democrat. But neither of them are going to go against the "War of Terror" or the "War of Russia". Hillary is going to be as all-out warrior as any chickenhawk you can find on the Republican side. BUT, she was laughing at the mess that was made of LIbya, and supported the withdrawal from Iraq and the reductions in Afghanistan. She will refuse to answer questions about these, even during the unavoidable debates.

UNwavering support for Israel, unwavering war against ISLAM and Russia will be the main theme for every candidate in this election. If Republicans win, it will because  their mainstream media succeeded in getting a few more voters to see in Hillary the same selfish sense of superiority that most voters saw in Romney during the last election. If the Democrats win, it will be due to her mainstream mdia's message that the time has come for a woman to screw up this country for a change.

We are all adults; but we have been played by the propagandists who shape the message.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:49 | 6175383 WTFUD
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Never underestimate the stupidity of a politician. Goldman must have strategized this for them or was it Soros or MCStain.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 14:52 | 6175399 22winmag
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Where does the spy-riddled, oil-soaked TEA PARTY stand on this?

 

I thought the TEA PARTY was going to defund all these wars.

 

Guess not.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 15:54 | 6175720 giggler321
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In case no one noticed; they are holding an emergency stop button so pressing it now might not be a bad idea.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 20:45 | 6176735 silverer
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This is very disturbing that the Republicans think this is a good idea.  After all the things that Obama screwed up, they could come up with the most impressive "fix it list" in history, which could easily be sold to any voter.  But how to they want to get in?  War.  WTF?  So long Republican party.   We need a third party, and we need it now.  But I already know the chances of that are virtually nil, because nobody else is allowed on the playground.

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