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"Getting Him Fired Is Not Enough" 100s Protest Texas Cops' Bikini-Clad Teenage Girl Assault

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After the clip of white cops rampaging through an affluent Texas neighborhood teenage pool party went viral, the outcry at the actions of the police officers is growing louder as, it appears, AmeriKKKa (as one protester's banner exclaims) is waking up to what can be done.

As Reuters reports, hundreds marched through the Dallas-area city of McKinney on Monday calling for the firing of the police officer seen in a video throwing a bikini-clad teenage girl to the ground and pointing his pistol at other youths.

 

Corporal Eric Casebolt, who is white, has been placed on administrative leave pending an investigation of how he responded to the disturbance on Friday which has raised fresh questions about racial bias in U.S. policing. "Him getting fired isn’t enough," said one protester, adding at that "he should be charged with assault."

About 800 people took part in the peaceful rally, carrying signs demanding an end to police brutality and calling for police accountability.

"We are demanding that the officer be fired and be charged with assaulting the youth," said Dominique Alexander, the president of the Next Generation Action Network, which helped organize the rally.

The incident comes after a string of cases over the past year fueled waves of protests across the United States over what civil rights activists say is law enforcement's unjustified use of force, often lethal, against minority groups.

Casebolt, a 10-year veteran once named the department's patrolman of the year, was questioned by authorities on Monday. He has not spoken publicly about the incident.

At the start of the video, one officer cordially tells some teens: "Don’t take off running as soon as cops get here."

Dajerria Becton, the 15-year-old girl thrown to the ground by Casebolt, told broadcaster KDFW the officer twisted her arm and grabbed her by the hair.

"Him getting fired isn’t enough," she said.

 

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Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:06 | 6178066 ZH Snob
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here we go again.

maybe we get this one up to 1200 hysterical, profane-ridden replies.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:08 | 6178102 Manthong
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I think that the gun thing was overreach and likely instinctive (that is a LE training and conditioning problem) but the little sweetheart did not comply with a perfectly lawful command.

Don’t fall for the false narrative.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:12 | 6178114 Haus-Targaryen
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What were the hood rats doing in a gated community's swimming pool not their own?  

I bet that idea got started with something along the lines of "damn mayne all dem' white people got dat' pool an' we got shit.  My great great great great grand-pappy wuz a slave or sub'em, and its their fault.  I'm gonna use thair pool, and if they don't like it, fuck em.  You wit me De'Antwon?  Invite L-a too"  

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:20 | 6178154 Bunghole
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Dindu nuffin except disregard a police officers orders.

False narrative brought to you by our friends in the media who's job is to divide and conquer the sheeple.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:25 | 6178177 General Decline
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Silky Johnson mentioned it yesterday on the emotional, hysterical thread here.  This is a perfect example of the Hegelian Dialectic at work.  Roaming thugs Vs. Police Thugs.  You do not have a 3rd choice.

From Yesterday..."The question they have posed is a trick, do you want uncivilized hordes running wild, or do you want an overly aggressive thug police force unleashed? They give these as the only two options to force you to choose a side, with both sides being equally shitty. The whole set up is a scam."

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:36 | 6178234 General Decline
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I am using this event as well as Baltimore to reinforce to my children how the Hegelian Dialectic actually works.  A great teaching opportunity. They throw these ugly events in your face to try and manipulate you.  The best thing I know to do is turn it back on them by using it to make people more aware of their tactics.  I worry about my kids. 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:37 | 6178241 onewayticket2
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if i mouth off to a cop, resist calls for me to get on the ground, push him, shove him, etc. it's going to result in the same treatment....

 

so are girls really to be treated differently?  what say you NOW??

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:41 | 6178259 StackShinyStuff
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Helter Skelter Bitchez.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:24 | 6178433 Fish Gone Bad
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The girl was in a bikini.  The only apparent weapon she had was free speech.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:34 | 6178474 Creepy A. Cracker
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Sounds good.  Please test you're "brilliant" narrative by illegally entering a private facility then going up to a cop while in your Speedo, assaulting her, yelling at her, telling her what she can do to herself.  The only weapon you will have is your free speech.  Everything will turn out wonderful for you becasue while violating a load of laws you used your "free speech."

Oh, say hi to Butch as you drop your Speedo for him in jail.  No doubt you'll enjoy Butch polling and probing you about your "free speech" event.

 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:56 | 6178568 El Vaquero
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You realize that they'd treat your kid that way too, right?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:10 | 6178585 TerminalDebt
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cop should have popped a couple of shots in her for not complying. Too far you say? Who decides whats too far? Maybe a broken arm then? How about rubbing her damn face in the dirt jut to show that bitch who's the boss?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:16 | 6178650 El Vaquero
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In that case, I shoudl be allowed to shoot back at the cops when I feel they've gone too far. 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:21 | 6178662 whotookmyalias
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That was not my America either, but it had nothing to do with race or police brutality. It had to do with hordes of entitled people who can't accept the consequences of thier choices.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:22 | 6178668 El Vaquero
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Are you talking about the black hordes or the blue hordes? 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:26 | 6178685 whotookmyalias
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I'm not talking about color at all, but for the record there were 3 LEO and hundreds of people displaying a wide range of behavior, some of which would have been very intimidating to me if I were one of the 3 LEO on the scene.  And to clarify, I don't think I've ever described 3 of anything as a horde.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:28 | 6178689 El Vaquero
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I've been in unruly crowds while armed.  I wouldn't have pulled my pistol for that.  Especially not considering that cops are much better at escalating the situation than they are deescalating it. 

 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:34 | 6178719 whotookmyalias
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OK, interesting to know (seriously). But that really has little relevance other than "been there, handled it better".  It doesn't make the cops behavior wrong for that situation, or cause for his firing.

 

I've been in a crowd that was breaking the law myself.  And I complied with the police officer's orders, even when others didn't and got away with it.  Because in my America, if I didn't compy with the police officer's orders and got into even more trouble, I would have been the guilty party in the altercation.  I went to court and paid my fine and grumbled about how much it was. And yes, the charge was trespassing, and I hate to say this because it might sound like an embelishment, but we were swimming somewhere we weren't' supposed to be.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:52 | 6178810 El Vaquero
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Then your America is not the land of the free.  I've also disobeyed unlawful orders from cops.  Ask yourself, if the cops are not legally required to prevent you from coming to harm, why do you have to obey them?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:59 | 6178838 Four chan
Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:19 | 6178921 Creepy A. Cracker
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Ahh... Tatiana and her mother Lashana set it all up.

Many ZHers must... down... vote... the... truth...

Can't... help... themselves...

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 13:40 | 6179343 TerminalDebt
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If everybody had guns this would have never happened, someone would have popped a few teenagers and the unruly cop and that would have settled it.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 14:31 | 6179581 EBT excepted
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so now we see wut yo' monikah mean...

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:54 | 6179125 El Vaquero
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And if some unruly teenagers are on my property, I'll deal with it. 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 14:33 | 6179591 EBT excepted
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dat da good point brothah...but see, dey gots da powah ovah yo' ass...

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:20 | 6178959 Government need...
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How bout blazing the cop to hell for putting the girl's life in danger?  It's all about how you feel, according to the law.  do you feel like a 3rd party's life was in danger?  

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:51 | 6178809 TheMeatTrapper
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If my kid was involved, the cops would be the least of his worries.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:04 | 6178873 Billy the Poet
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If you treated your kid like the cop treated that little girl the cops would be slamming your head into the pavement. Ironic, isn't it?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:01 | 6178834 Creepy A. Cracker
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"You realize that they'd treat your kid that way too, right?"

No, they wouldn't becasue "my kid" would not act like an entitled, spoiled, aye-hole, thug, breaking into other people's property, assaulting the legal occupants.  If on the off chance that "my kid" did, similar, trivially light treatment would be just fine.  "Oh, I got pushed to the ground... THE HORRORS!!!"  Please.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:11 | 6178906 El Vaquero
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You are very naieve if you think that the cops wouldn't do that to your kid too.  You raised him right?  The cops don't give a fuck.  How many laws have you broken today?  How many that you don't know are laws?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:15 | 6178927 Creepy A. Cracker
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Good job of ignoring my post then changing the subject.  Next.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:18 | 6178949 El Vaquero
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Good job of not getting  the point of mine.  Your kid doesn't have to act like an asshole thug to get police attention these days.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:31 | 6178974 Billy the Poet
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His kid is an easy target for any authority figure who wants to abuse him. That's some good parenting there.

I can see him now: "But you have to spend the weekend with Mr. Sandusky, son. He'll make a man out of you."

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 13:47 | 6179367 TerminalDebt
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His kid is safe and white

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:20 | 6178962 Billy the Poet
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I didn't see the girl who the cop assaulted commit a crime. So she is identical to "your kid" in that respect.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 13:29 | 6179278 sun tzu
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I guess they should release everyone in prison because YOU didn't personally witness them committing a crime LOL

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 13:47 | 6179371 TerminalDebt
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We should arrest everyone until we are sure they didn't commit a crime

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:36 | 6178501 Kobe Beef
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First they marched for St. Skittles' Right to Assault a neighbor. Next they marched for The Gentle Giant's Right to Murder a cop. Then they marched for Fast Freddie's Right to Deal Heroin in a School Zone.

Now they march for their Right to Trespass, Vandalize & Assault your mom at a private pool. Fuck 'em.

#Blackliesdontmatter

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:21 | 6178661 OneEyedJack
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When he pulled the gun on a unarmed child, he lost.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:24 | 6178675 whotookmyalias
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I'm guessing you didn't watch the video becasue I did and nowhere do I see a cop pulling a gun on an unarmed child. I do see a cop pull his gun when a group of people begin to rush at him in a way that demonstrates they have ill intentions.  

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:25 | 6178990 Billy the Poet
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Criminals often pull a gun when confronted by an opposing force. Why do you believe that committing a crime justifies the use of deadly force against innocent people who try to protect their friends?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 13:13 | 6179179 Spanky
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whotookmyalias is a racist (just calling a spade a spade). I saw children in swim suits in the video(s). He saw a mob of niggers out for white blood. A single post on facebook or a "conservative" blog is all the "evidence" needed to contradict my lying eyes and justify the officer's assault. Reason isn't his strong suit -- skin color is all the justification needed for, well, everything.

Sad to say, but ZH is starting to sound an awful lot like a klan rally. Too bad its credibility is being flushed down the toilet with this stupidity.

See guys, I too was once a racist. Raised that way as a matter of fact. Problem is, there are plenty of people on the other side of your racial divide that can and will defy your worst expectations. Plenty of smart, kind and good people just happen to be black. 

Just like there are plenty of hate-filled, violent and ignorant white people.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:03 | 6178865 Creepy A. Cracker
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" he pulled the gun on a unarmed child"

 

Oh!!! Even better.. lets say "he pulled the gun on a unarmed baby!"

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:29 | 6179012 Billy the Poet
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If you like cops so much so must love Obama. The President of the United States is the ultimate authority figure. Do you defend each and every thing Obama does simply because he's in charge? If not, why do you hate America?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:33 | 6179024 Creepy A. Cracker
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LOL!!!  Says the person who wants income equality laws on the books - to be enforced by people with guns.  Just don't call the armed income equality enforcers the police because we HATE the police. 

Clown.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:38 | 6179032 Billy the Poet
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I don't want any laws on the books. People have the ability to rule themselves and government is an impediment to liberty not a method to secure it. How did you become so hopelessly confused? Go back to your Obama worship and leave us productive individuals alone.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:57 | 6179136 El Vaquero
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Unfortunately, as long as there are enough people, there is going to be some form of law. We're going to have to live with that, because there are too many sheep and too many wolves.  But we can think about mitigating the damages. 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 13:06 | 6179175 Billy the Poet
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Anarchy means no rulers it doesn't mean no rules. In fact, the presence of rulers makes adherence to the rules impossible as rulers place themselves above the rules each and every time.

There is simply no way that individuals can protect themselves from theft and violence by giving an elite class the the exclusive right to commit violence against them.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance on the part of each individual. One can't simply abdicate that responsibility to elite criminals and hope for the best.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 13:11 | 6179195 Spanky
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Anarchy will not work without reason. How much of that do you see floating around in this thread?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 17:25 | 6180266 Billy the Poet
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Anarchy will not work without reason. How much of that do you see floating around in this thread?

 

If people are unreasonable then it makes no sense to select a few of the unreasonable people and give them access to guns, prisons, jet aircraft and nuclear bombs along with the exclusive right to use those weapons against the citizenry. That's unreasonable to the nth degree. 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 14:05 | 6179440 El Vaquero
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If you have rules to be enforced, somebody will inevetably want somebody else to enforce them.  It's a downhill slope from there. 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 17:28 | 6180279 Billy the Poet
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Let the somebodies who want to be under the thumb of their "betters" go right ahead. Doesn't concern me in the least. But if the iron heeled boot ever comes off my neck then it will never go back again.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 14:35 | 6179603 EBT excepted
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look like he bust out da gatt when dem 3 nigrows charged hid ass fum behind...

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:48 | 6178290 TeamDepends
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In more important news, check out the live 50 caliber fire in this "drill" in Flint MI. But Michigan isn't in Jade Helm? Well, CO gets treated to Operation Raider Focus, where many of the troops appear to be foreign and the trucks are carrying miles and miles and miles of concertina/RAZOR wire. If you can't see what's coming, get some binoculars.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5UsW2W0waA

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:00 | 6178337 WillyGroper
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I said long ago, this exercise was not in just the states mentioned.

It's nationwide.

Better have diminimus 30 days supplies. And that's the bright side.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:26 | 6178683 Billy the Poet
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But the folks making the Michigan video are black! Therefore the government employees flying over an American city in attack helicopters firing heavy weapons at midnight are simply doing their job.

 

But seriously, thanks for the link. Interesting.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:03 | 6178863 TeamDepends
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Dang, anyone near Westminster MD? Word is the Walmart is shut down, the windows blackened, and there are military and FEMA buses on premesis.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:36 | 6179040 Billy the Poet
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Source?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:33 | 6178483 Laddie
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@TeamDepends
"In more important news"

One of these Desis brought in multiple drug resistant TB from India through O'Hare and has been traveling around Missouri and Tennessee for the past seven weeks, spreading it to Whites aka Americans.

Home Away From Home: A Desi Senior Center in Queens
Farah Akhbar, NBC News, June 5 2015
EXTREME TB STRAIN BROUGHT INTO USA

"The patient traveled in April from India to the United States through Chicago O'Hare airport," the CDC said in a statement provided to NBC News.

"The patient also spent time in Missouri and Tennessee. Seven weeks after arriving in the United States, the patient sought treatment for and was diagnosed with active TB."

XDR-TB is very rare in the U.S. It's not clear who will pay for this patient's treatment.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:11 | 6178631 Absolute Truth
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FWIW, I witnessed 2 fighter jets fly over my Memphian home 2 days ago. I've seen many FedEx planes, but that was the first for war jets.

Gene Rosen

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:12 | 6178391 Government need...
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Your eyes see 'resisting', mine see the thugpig assaulting a girl and putting her life in danger.  With their firearms, cops couldnt hit water if they shot their guns from a boat bobbing in the ocean.  Another clear example of the breakdown of the rule of law.  Yes, the cop should be both fired and charged with assault.  I'm sure that comes as a disappointment to many posters here.  But in the long run, it will keep what's left of our society from going Mad Max sooner.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:37 | 6178736 whotookmyalias
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LOL

 

Individual accountability for one's own choices don't exist in your head, do they?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 13:21 | 6179251 Government need...
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Yes, and the cop is beginning to be held accountable for his actions.  I'm hoping he gets fired and charged with assault.  800 people in McKinney this AM are likely hoping for a similar outcome.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 18:14 | 6184238 TheReplacement
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So wait.  Are you saying it doesn't have to be a red-blue choice and that possibly people in and out of uniform behaved badly, up and to the point of breaking the law?

GASP!!!

Heretic! 

Burn it with fire! 

Witch! 

Burn it with fire!

Thinking man!

Burn it with fire!

 

 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:24 | 6178436 BoredRoom
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Blax are America's cancer

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:46 | 6178774 Antifaschistische
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You nailed it...this is 50 years of equality! Girls arent special even when they are wearing close to nothing....

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:48 | 6178291 Freddie
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I stopped watching shit TV years ago but this is CNNs reason to exist now.   I was in a store and CNN was on and all the mega corps run ads on there even though no on ereally watches it.

It is all about manipulation.  Dumb liberal and slightly liberal whites are easily manipulated by this.  Ball team fans like dumb white in texas who love football and their trayvons.  Keep watching and cheering like morons.  And white kids who listen to rap like wiggers are in for a rude suprise.

The dual shit-i-Zen media types and their handywork.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:55 | 6178561 Kobe Beef
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The Philadelphia march & the Texas pool invasion are two momentous developments for the Race Realist Movement. Allow me to explain..

Negroes are about to loose the only real friends they got: White Women. The Merchants pretend to like the Negroes, but only as far as they are useful to the Chief Merchant Cause: the dismemberment of Western Civilization. White women, however, have been true believers and key enablers throughout the Negro Struggle (to achieve something resembling civilized behavior). White women have embraced the Total State & the Marxist Empowerment Narrative because it promised to keep them safe.

And now, you have live video of yet another Dindu Troop invading your happy homestead and beating on older White ladies that could be you, that could be your mother. And yet, your sworn protector, your Holy State merely stands by and pretends it didn't happen, or blames the White Police who actually rushed to your rescue.

Now, a man's political views are shaped by reason. He can see that Dindus are nothing but trouble, but know that he must quietly go about his business under BRA. Women's views are shaped by emotion, and lack this sort of rational restraint. As misguided by Merchant Agitprop as they have been, there is no denying the seething political energy released when the Feelies are flowing. From Prohibition to mandatory seat belts to feminism and family court, Something Must Be Done. And once White Women feel Dindus are Unsafe at Any Speed, no White Man will enjoy a passive, peaceful night at home.
Ladies and Gentlemen, the time has come. Release the Harpies.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:00 | 6178582 Laddie
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@Kobe Beef
I think you are on to something...

More School Districts Report Chaos After ‘White Privilege’ Theory Influences Discipline Rules Steve Gunn, June 8, 2015

In the Portland school district, which has long embraced PEG’s philosophies, Sperry wrote that “After a black high school boy repeatedly punched his teacher in the face, sending her to the emergency room, the teacher, who is white, was advised by the assistant principal not to press charges. The administrator lectured her about how hard it is for young black men to overcome a criminal record.”

After critique, ‘white privilege’ training company hides school district client list from public

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:19 | 6178659 Kobe Beef
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Aye, Laddie. "Hey White Equalist Lady, did you hear about the woman teacher assaulted in her own classroom? You'll never believe what they told her next. Here, I'll post it on your Facebok..."

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:55 | 6178823 TheMeatTrapper
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EXACTLY.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 13:15 | 6179216 Tarzan
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All a well designed con,

They want a national police force, know that everyone is carrying a camera and that there are some bad cops, likely by design, to exploit.

Rather then arrest the bad cop and send him to a new career,

Protect the bad cops, encourage the behavior, deny they exist, thereby enrage the public until we demand they fix it...

walla, we have a National Police Force to protect us from the bad local police. One more tool for el presidenta

PROBLEM IS the Hegelian dialectic that the elite continue to use is based on false theory.  It will work to gradually concentrate power but the illusion of promised utopia will fail.  The con of society evolving to perfection through conflict, to a one world guberment that saves us from ourselves, will only lead us to another massive war where the rich get richer and the powerful get more powerful until finally their Heads Explode with false ego.  These people are narcissist and live in a world devoid of the realities of the suffering they cause. 

In the end they will fail, may the end come quickly...

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:02 | 6178347 centerline
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Bingo GD.  Right on.  All driven by suspension of consequences up and down the chain. 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:59 | 6178643 boattrash
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Gen. Decline, Bingo! You said it.

My local rag of a paper was running a poll, asking how I want to be taxed. Property Tax, or Sales Tax...

They did not have the option of No New Taxes.

PS. They're trying to build a $6mil Aqua Park, but they're too broke to replace the Park Dept. lawn mower...WTF

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:27 | 6178455 junction
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Stories like this attract the police trolls, some of them bent cops who miss the good old days when they could sadistically beat up black teenagers with impunity.  These cops are cut from the same degenerate cloth as pedophile priests.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 13:22 | 6179255 Government need...
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Which class would survive longer in prison?  Pedophile priests or thugcops?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:22 | 6178166 Payne
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I suggest that he remain on the job however he is suspended from carrying a firearm on the job for 1 year and he may not carry any personal assault items (club, mace etc).  He will have to learn to do his job without threatening the life and safety of an unarmed teenage girl.

It does no good to fire him, he will just get hired by another force in a different area.

 

Also run a urine analysis on the guy to make sure he is not on some drug, his behavior compared to the other LEOs in the video was over the top.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:37 | 6178204 Chupacabra-322
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This is how the scenario will be played out by the Criminal Fruad UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. Fascist:

LEO will be place on paid administrative leave. After a lengthy long (long enough for the dumb public to forget) "internal" ivestagation. LEO will be found justified in his actions. Sound familiar?

Seems as though the Sheeple are slowly waking up to the system being run & owned by a Criminal Fraud Entity called: THE UNITED STATES, CORP. INC.

The Pinkertin Thug wearing the costumes just enforce the Criminal Fraud.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:14 | 6178398 Government need...
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He'll be sippin' a fancy drink on a beach somewhere for 2 months, complaining to his bitch about having to carry his 2 ounce testicles back to the room in order to unload his balls.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 14:48 | 6179660 EBT excepted
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she wud fightin' da pig bruthah, da pig did'n want no fight...

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:00 | 6178341 NOZZLE
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Thanks Bob_Stl for the truth 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:32 | 6178673 chunga
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That same conservative treehouse website had a story earlier that there were actually TWO freddy grays that made some sense by what was in WAPO. The media is running with this pool party because it's perfect divide + conquer material.

edit sorry not 2 freddie grays but 2 different guys w/different stories in van with him

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:35 | 6179013 The Wizard
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Good posting on the story. Back to my basic point, the society and culture is no longer able to carry out "reasonable" discusssions of the law and lawlessness when it comes to confrontations. Out of control partiers and out of control cops. People no longer can rationalize with emotions controlling conflicts. This is a classic case of a vicous cycle. Pariters out of control, cops arriving to bust heads. Woe is us.

Where was the management of the pool? Why did the management allow a party, of this sort, to take place?  I would have to think there needed to be some sort of permission given.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 16:20 | 6180048 Amendment X
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Well done bob_stl As always the traditional media has fabricated a story that fits their long-running narrative..."Look, video of white cops abusing blacks". It looks like 90% of this story has been left behind and we will have to endure the never-ending parade  of RACE HUSTLERS stepping in front of cameras. Well, I will not have to endure that as I turned off the TV media years ago. This is a simple case of stupid young people (mostly Negro) with no respect for community holding an illegal gathering at an HOA pool area and then taking over the pool from those who rightfully belong there. And in they did so in a very vulgar, aggressive manner.  Now some idiot ZH's want to blame the cops?? How many of you critics have ever been in law enforcement?  Obviously none!!! This situation was alreday way out of control when the first officer arrived. You'll notice the ones who cleared the scene and were smart enough to listen to a lawful order were not put down by the cops, but the "fake draw and run" guy was pursued and put down. Cops are not the problem. I personally know dozens of them from C.O.P down to rank and file Officers.  Problems include: federal govt mis-education, media, bad parenting, decades of vulgarity accepted in our culture, debasement of Christian-based values (by media & culture). For the few of you who insist that we can live without government or police, it's time you grow up and read a lot of history. Everything in life must be balanced. Yes we have far too much government and not enough freedoms. You are absolutely choosing the wrong episode to criticize.   

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 22:54 | 6181256 turnoffthewater
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Thanks for the link. The solution is simple, have Tatiana and mother pay for the disturbance, apoligize to the police and ship them back to Chicago (obama country).

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:31 | 6178214 unrulian
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Why do I find myself on both sides of this argument? Kids were belligerent because they have no respect (parents, school) and the cops are dangerous due to a lack of oversight, repercussions and union powers   

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:55 | 6178320 BrotherRat
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I mean, a lot of what they did could be considered normal teen behavior by most standards. What movie where cops show up to a teen party doesn't involve running? If they're at the pool and legitimately aren't supposed to be there, do you care if they run? Isn't that the point? To get them to leave? I won't pretend they were innocent, though. However the cop in question clearly acted in a manner that a cop simply shouldn't. Manhandling teen girls, doing barrel rolls for no reason, drawing down on unarmed teens - all completely unacceptable. If the kids were "thugs", it should be expected that thugs will behave as thugs. However cops are held to a higher standard and should be expected to behave more honorably than "thugs". They should be able to resolve simple cases of neighborhood disturbance without drawing a weapon. They should be able to respond to people stranded in a flood or who have threatened suicide without shooting citizens. Shooting people should be an absolute last resort and it's starting to feel like more and more cops think that the gun is the first and only answer to every conflict.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:57 | 6178570 walküre
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Not by my standards. Not by the standards of anyone in my family or circle of friends. Your standards are obviously low.

When I was a teen some 30 years ago, none of this shit happened.

See the middle age civilian man who stands watching how the cop does what he does? The girl was never in danger.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:36 | 6178731 Billy the Poet
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When I was a teen some 30 years ago, none of this shit happened

 

When I was a kid we walked ten miles to school in the snow and it was uphill both ways. We always obeyed our parents and broccoli was our favorite dessert.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:16 | 6178933 El Vaquero
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Bingo! 

 

Now then, there were the kids I knew in High School who broke into the High School just to fuck off, and when the security figured out they were there, he got one of those expensive paid for by the school fire extinguishers to the face.  Or the senior prank that involved epoxy and some serious damages from another one.  Or the fire alarms getting pulled..  How many people played mailbox baseball?  Didn't happen my ass.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 13:24 | 6179261 pods
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I remember a bottle rocket being lit off down the hall in my school.

That wasn't quite as fun as putting a 1/4 stick into a friend's plastic mailbox. That shit rained down as we ran away.

Hell, we lit off a 1/2 stick once downtown.  We no doubt would be charged with a federal crime nowadays.

pods

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 14:09 | 6179447 El Vaquero
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Yeah, I stayed away from property crime and stuck to blowing things up in the middle of nowhere and driving too fast. The school incursion wasn't done by me, and it was funny at the time, but now I can look back and say "Holy Shit! Fire extinguishers are expensive!"

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:05 | 6178876 Don Logan
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When I was a teen ~ 25 years ago, we got up to silly shit like crashing fancy hotel pools. However, if we were ever confronted, we would promptly leave - especially if the police were en route.

 

What we didn't do was go spastic on authority figures daring them to escalate the situation.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:42 | 6179064 Billy the Poet
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While I agree that the best course of action is to get the hell out when armed thugs arrive that is due to the fact that pigs are pigs and not due to a mistaken sense of respect for the porkers.

However, the kids in the video didn't seem to be spastic from what I saw. That one cop was the only nutjob I saw.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:38 | 6179049 The Wizard
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30 years ago shit happened, but not quite the way it hapens today. Confrontations were a bit more civil.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:31 | 6178703 unrulian
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the barrel roll was hilarious, reminded me of an episode of the Trailer Park Boys

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 14:52 | 6179678 EBT excepted
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yeah bruthah, me mysef don' look armed til' I bust out mah gatt...so if'n I be chargin' da pigs fum behind, mebbe daey think I be bustin sumpin out next...

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:59 | 6178335 kikk
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I'm with you on that.

Kids have no respect for parents, school, law, other people's property or general society.

Police use aggression as a first resort and violence as a second.

One side or the other has to back down but somehow I don't think either will so it will just get worse.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:05 | 6178351 duo
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Cops trained that citizens are their enemy against FS3/FS4 generation utes that have no respect for anything.  A volitile situation.

Liberals had better watch out.  If the cops start to phone it in a-la-Baltimore and order breaks down, the gun-haters will get dragged into the street first.  Telling them you voted for Obama isn't going to help you then.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:16 | 6178409 Government need...
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If you dont have a gun and know to use it, you aren't planning properly and are putting yourself in danger.  Besides, how else are you going to find justice?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:21 | 6178424 Freddie
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Hopefully sooner then later.  Hopefully dumb white males who like watching thug football with their Traybvons they love like dumb Texans will be dragged in the street too.

Keep supporting TV, media, Hollywood and sports BS.  But many white sports fans are wiggers and their kids listen to rap like wiggers.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:49 | 6178536 Ghostdog
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Im on your side, unrulian. It's a societal meltdown caused by rampant apathy and stupidity arguably taking off in 1999 when Bill Clinton deregulated sex.... :) That being said, she's a 15 year old girl with no weapon except her mouth. I dont care if she called him a cunt. If she did something wrong, slap the cuffs on her and do your job. But, I mean there was a whole gang of kids there and he chooses to pick on the 15 year old girl? Short mans symdrome? Or maybe he is a cunt because now we are going to have to endure that fucking Sharpton and Jackson brigrade stirring things up so they can pilfer more money

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:36 | 6178236 loonyleft
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What were the hood rats doing in a gated community's swimming pool not their own?  

maybe they were invited, or lived there or had a pool pass. 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:45 | 6178248 Haus-Targaryen
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I grew up in a place called Southlake.  Its the Plano/McKinney of Tarrant County.  

I guarantee you the majority of those kids are not from that neighborhood.  Maybe a couple of them are, but a kid that grows up in the upper-middle class burbs does not 1) take off running with the cops show up and 2) get face down on the pavement when its 100° outside when the cops say get on the ground.  

 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:28 | 6178458 loonyleft
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well that settles it. Your anecdotal evidence is proof enough. 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:46 | 6178523 Haus-Targaryen
Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:35 | 6178724 Kobe Beef
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Don't show that to HUD. They'll Affirmatively Destroy Your Neighborhood, pronto.

In related news, the Dindu Pool Invasion was promoted by a Section 8 Resident. Shocking, I know.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:00 | 6178850 TheMeatTrapper
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Your complete lack of any evidence is proof enough.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:14 | 6178542 L Bean
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...get face down on the pavement when its 100° outside when the cops say get on the ground.  ?

 

Oh idk, kids who've been paying attention to the news lately? Whose parents have taught them a modicum of self-preservation?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:42 | 6178264 LithiumWarsWAKEUP
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all three is correct. you win.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:30 | 6179017 gwiss
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Maybe they were invited, or had a pool pass - NOPE!

 

Here's what happened:

 

https://www.facebook.com/caseye.hollis/posts/10205294680904456

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:38 | 6178246 Ghordius
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Haus-Targaryen: "What were the hood rats doing in a gated community's swimming pool not their own?"

How do hoods look on bikinis?

but more importantly: what has the fact that they were there anything to do with the debate on what is proper police behaviour?

in the original video, btw, I got one little impression: that girl was in a gaggle of other girls that were standing around as if only black boys would be subjects of police attention

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:41 | 6178260 Haus-Targaryen
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Kids from the neighborhood getting too loud or playing profane music at their own pool, at least in my opinion would elicit a different response than kids not from the area jumping over fences and assaulting security guards and a mom of three in a pool not their own.  

Was the cop over the top?  Sure.  Were the kids in the wrong as well?  Definitely.  

Hood rats -- its a term reflecting a culture that has sprung up in the American innercity, specifically with blacks and hispanics.  We have the term white-trash for people who engage in similar behavior but live in trailer parks in the country.   

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:49 | 6178299 Ghordius
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I see. I have a German term that might interest you: Sippenhaft. Can't be traduced properly, I fear, but the wiki article is quite good, imho

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:03 | 6178595 walküre
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Well, they all do "hang" together. They're a posse in most cases so the term "Sippenhaft" fits quite well. Why did the girl shoot her mouth off to the cop? Why didn't she as she was told? Oh, I forget. She is entitled by birth.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:59 | 6178333 Freddie
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As I said yesterday.  The cops should have told everyone the park and pool are closed NOW.  Please leave as we have 25 tow truck on the way to tow any car in the area.  Please leave now.

Then start towing cars.

I had this happen on my street once with about 350 kids at a $3 million house due to text messages,  The parents freaked out.  It was a small party for the one kid's high school graduation.

The cops showed up and told everyone to leave.  The kids left.   My guess is the cops would have started towing cars because the street was packed with cars.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:08 | 6178375 Haus-Targaryen
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While this is a good idea, what about the people who were there just enjoying the pool who LIVE in the neighborhood?  

 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:24 | 6178435 Freddie
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Well they can now pay higher property taxes with lawsuits, put up with endless marches and more crime in the neighborhood.  Good luck with those property values in McKinney.  It is good cause dumb white Texans love their football and their Trayvons who play ball.

Close the park, close the pool and start towing cars with 30 tow trucks.  They would have disbursed in 2 minutes. Dumb cops but they probably like football and their trayvons ball players. morons.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:18 | 6178950 Don Logan
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Their cars are in their garages, most likely. C'mon - you're reaching.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:19 | 6178417 Government need...
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Why bother, when you can smack some niggers around, draw your weapon, and generally act the fool?  A Crip or Blood would have done the same thing in the same way.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:41 | 6178258 LithiumWarsWAKEUP
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"You can't handle the Truth" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXvPVw8yn4k

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:11 | 6178904 goldsaver
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Let's assume, for the sake of this conversation, that the facts as currently stated are true.

That a local resident held a birthday party in the local community pool and invited all her school friends. That Mom and Dad contracted and paid for a DJ to provide entertainment. That said DJ went on social media and, with or without the local hosts consent, began selling $15 tickets to the party. That the advertising by the DJ attracted youths from outside the community. That those youths were legally in a public park but trespassing in a community pool adjacent to the public park. That some youths became offensive. That at some point, bottles were thrown at cars. That in response to this behavior, at least one and maybe two adult women residents decided to put a stop to the behavior and confronted the gathered teens. That while confronting the teens, it escalated into a physical altercation between the one or more Adult females and teenage females. That, as a result of the physical altercation, police was called. That while the police came in to remove the unruly teenagers from the pool, one of the officers, clearly out of control based on current video evidence, decided to slam a 14 year old, bikini clad female to the ground, and place his considerable weight on her. That as a reaction to his actions, three females and two males approached the officer in a menacing matter. That as a response to the actions by the two males the officer first stands up and faces them and after they stepped back he drew his service weapon. That two other officers saw his actions and intervened.

Lets assume all of that

First, the worst crime committed by the female was failure to disperse, a misdemeanor. The two males actions were, at worst, threatening an officer.

At which point did any of that require the use of deadly force? Drawing a weapon in Texas is legally the equivalent of using said weapon.

At which point did citizens, regardless of their age, gender or ethnicity, loose their right to peacefully assemble? At which point did they loose their right of speech and regress of grievances?

Why is the officer, a representative of the state, immune from charges of assault, battery, terrorist threats and kidnapping?

If I, a citizen, where to take the same actions, would find myself incarcerated that instant yet we find that a representative of the state can be applauded for the same exact actions? He was not preventing an act of violence but being violent, He was not protecting property but damaging property. He was, in short, a criminal.

Why did the adult females believe it was their place to scold or correct the behavior of the teenage females and to assault one of them? And why are those females not under arrest for assault? If you decide to strike my child I will take you down. If my child strikes you first, I will punish him/her for aggression against you. That is my place as a parent, not yours.

Are you offended by words? Do you believe that you are entitled to agrees against others just because you are offended? If so, you are a sociopath.

Words are only words until you choose to give them meaning. Kike, spic, niggr, cracker are all meaningless until you choose to assign them a meaning. If you are offended by words, move to a deserted island.

Here is the anarchist solution: Ignore the going ons, no point is intervening. Once the party is over, take account of the damage and approach the sponsor of the event asking for restitution. They are morally responsible for any actions their guest take. Bring in a clean up crew to repair the damage. Damaged cars or other property? Insurance takes care of all that. No need to invoke State violence.

 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:51 | 6179106 prodigious_idea
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At Haus-Targaryen

 

You a Dallas cop too?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:13 | 6178121 NoVa
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Bingo.

if she had stood on the sidewalk, minding her own business this would be a non-issue. 

But she had to get all Jerry Springer with the cop.  Now she has her Warhol 15 minutes of fame.  

 

BTW, does she live in that neighborhood or was she a party crasher who drove to the rap party?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:25 | 6178179 Mystik
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I agree with you 100%

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:31 | 6178467 Freddie
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Miami Beach had and may still have Hip Hop weekend.  This may not be the exact name.  The crime and mayhem caused some businesses to just close for the whole weekend.  the city told them they cannot do that.

Other examples of these not in our (ebt) Amerikkka youth.

1. Virginia Beach party weekend.  Crime, mayhem.

2. Shopping malls.  These type of feral young people help close loads of malls.

3. Movie theaters.  I know plenty of people who avoid theaters.  I avoid all of Hollywood's crap.

4. Schools as prisons.   Wonder why? These feral youths cannot be edumacated.

Anyone here go to school with people like this girl?  If you did not they STFU.  You have no clue.

I am not crazy about cops either.

Cops should have had 30 tow trucks there.  If the youths were found to be trepassing or violating the law, they tack on $150 to get their car back.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:20 | 6178420 farflungstar
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Yep see how the cop ignores you when you stand off to the side, myob and keep your big mouth shut. But chickenheads gotta be chickenheads. They learn that at a young age.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:02 | 6178590 El Vaquero
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Do you like liberty?  Yes?  Then you should have the liberty to mouth of to the cop.  Your attitude is why we only pay lip service to being a free country, but do not live in a free country.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:29 | 6178463 paddy0761
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What did she do, apart from speak her mind? Exercise her right of free speech. He chased her down for that!

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:51 | 6178548 L Bean
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"Rap Party"?

Grandpa?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:13 | 6178123 gwiss
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Cop responded to a charging youth who reached towards his back pocket after charging.  He drew his weapon, kid ran, cop sent other cops to chase him down and reholstered his weapon and resumed cuffing the girl.

 

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/06/08/the-full-story-of-the-mck...

 

It was a perfect response, to be honest.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:49 | 6178294 LithiumWarsWAKEUP
Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:22 | 6178426 Government need...
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Perfect unless an armed bystander views the act of drawing his gun as endangering the life of another, sparking another round of escalation to the point of fatalities and multiple shooters.

The cop deserves to be fired and charged with assault.  800 poeple are in the street in Texas demanding justice.  Thank God!

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:00 | 6178847 gwiss
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Good lord man.  You are suggesting that concealed carry weapons holders should draw against an armed officer in uniform?

 

You have no conception of how civil society is supposed to work.  The armed officer is working for us, the law abiding citizens.  He defused a situation without anyone getting injured, along the way drawing his weapon until he ascertained that it wasn't needed, at which point he promptly holstered it and continued with his duties.  You can't ask for more.

 

But meanwhile, the hooligans who ruined the party then ended up having another party the next night, ran through the same neighborhood kicking on doors and stealing a car and bashing a bunch of other cars with it, and community members who stood up and correctly and courageously spoke out that this had nothing to do with race are being threatened.

 

You are creating a fucked up world.  You are the problem.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:05 | 6178875 TheMeatTrapper
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"You are creating a fucked up world.  You are the problem."

Exactly. A lot of people need to take a good, hard look in the mirror rather than always blaming others. 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:30 | 6179016 goldsaver
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Good lord man.  You are suggesting that concealed carry weapons holders should draw against an armed officer in uniform?

 

I hope not, that would be suicide

 

You have no conception of how civil society is supposed to work.

 

A slave plantation is also civil then?

 

The armed officer is working for us, the law abiding citizens.

No he is not. He is working for the State. We are not the State.

 He defused a situation without anyone getting injured, along the way drawing his weapon until he ascertained that it wasn't needed, at which point he promptly holstered it and continued with his duties.

No, he stood up and the two men backed off, then he drew his weapon. Only after his fellow officers stopped him, did he deescalate.

But meanwhile, the hooligans who ruined the party then ended up having another party the next night, ran through the same neighborhood kicking on doors and stealing a car and bashing a bunch of other cars with it, and community members who stood up and correctly and courageously spoke out that this had nothing to do with race are being threatened

post facto events do not justify his actions

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:37 | 6179044 gwiss
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It speaks to what the police were dealing with.  Here's how it went down:

 

https://www.facebook.com/caseye.hollis/posts/10205294680904456

 

I don't understand what kind of world you are advocating.  What would you have law abiding citizens do when faced with organizers who try to crash a pool without honoring the limitations on use set by the homeowners?  When faced with milling kids that are not listening to the security guard?  That do not peacefully disperse when requested to?  That do not follow commands to sit down while order is restored?  That charge at police officers who are trying to restrain an unruly girl who has bought into the "cop hate" and has bought into the idea that a peaceful, well functioning society is one in which no one can tell you what to do and protect their property?  And who subsequently respond to attempts to limit their disruption of a peaceful community by further disruptions and theft and destruction of property and threatening those who try to tell the truth?

 

Your ideas destroy communities.  You cannot build a healthy community around the idea that no violence will ever be used, because in that world, anyone who uses violence trumps and therefore controls those who are afraid of it.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 13:29 | 6179274 Government need...
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Wrong, I merely know the law in my state and am willing to use it to protect a 3rd party who I feel is in mortal danger.  Sorry, cops are lowlifes.  They aren't entitled to be judge and jury via their guns.  They have the same right to use of lethal force in self-defense as me.  It is perceptional, the use of lethal force in self defense.  I have a strong notion of cilvil society.  It does not involve pigthugs needlessly escalating situations to violent, asymetric use of force.  But I am willing to keep raising the stakes in exercising my right to self defense.  Cops break the law.  They are not immune to the consequences of breaking that law, even when they are in the line of duty.  Fuck anyone who suggests otherwise.  I'd have a few rounds for you, too . . . if I feel you endanger my life or the life of a 3rd party around me.

I am Mad Max, and we are living in the post rule-of-law world.  Deal with it as you wish.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:14 | 6178128 Pickleton
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with a perfectly lawful command.


You sound like you're perfectly satisfied with being treated like a slave every time a jack boot is present.  I'll never understand why the so-called small govt imbeciles on the right that think being treated like this as par for the course is ok.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:23 | 6178173 Bunghole
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Keep on pushing that false left-right paradigm.

How does it feel to be part of the problem?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:37 | 6178240 Manthong
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“with a perfectly lawful command.” 

Gimme a break... I know that a not insignificant percentage of LE have some psychotic tendencies and are storm trooper wannabes. In many places that is part of the desired profile.

But even with those guys, if you are not stepping out of bounds and are tactful, you don’t have a problem.

We DO need to turn the police from the First Mountain Division back to peace officers, but that little chickie-poo needed her butt on the ground.

And the charging guy.. at the last moment he made the right decision and the gun went back in the holster.

In the UK, Germany, or Spain he would have gotten a baton on the noggin.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:32 | 6178477 loonyleft
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i'm not an apologist but...... :)

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 13:56 | 6178960 Pickleton
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Keep on pushing that false left-right paradigm

 

In other words, you're something of a stupid bunghole for ignoring that whole part where I said "...so-called small govt..." and then failed to recognize how stupidity (YOURS included) like utter obsequiousness to the State is the problem.


Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:23 | 6178174 gwiss
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Are you under the impression that a peaceful community won't have local law enforcement?  What kind of dreamed up, bullshit world are you imagining?

 

The thing we need to guard against is NATIONAL LEVEL IMPOSED FORCE!  NOT LOCAL.  The fact that folks like you conflate nationally imposed force with local law enforcement just muddies the water.  Some might say intentionally?

 

The need for local law enforcement will never go away.  Local are our people.  This cop did a good job of fluidly adjusting his response to the threat level.  No one was shot, and he de-escalated as fast as he escalated as he saw that the threat was not what it initially seemed to be.

 

Focus on the wrong issue makes it worse.   You are part of the problem, not the solution.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:23 | 6178982 Pickleton
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Are you under the impression that a peaceful community won't have local law enforcement?  What kind of dreamed up, bullshit world are you imagining?

 

Apparently only the bullshit world you're imagining since I said nothing of sort.  Got it now, you stupid slave?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 13:31 | 6179288 Government need...
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Oh yes, because a local tyrant is much better than one far, far away.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 15:29 | 6179840 gwiss
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Local tyrants are infinitely more controllable.  That's the whole point.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:46 | 6178235 The Wizard
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"You sound like you're perfectly satisfied with being treated like a slave"   It does sound that way.

Does the citizen have the right to give the cop a "lawful" command? It is being assumed only the cops follow the law. What is legal and what is lawful are two horses of a different color. As I stated in the other posting we lost the ability to excercise a lawful debate long ago. This is primarily due to the lack of education in the mechanics of the law of the land. Many of the so called laws today violate original intent of state constitutions.

No doubt cops have to put up with all sorts of crap in this day and age of emotional rhetoric. Too many cops use a military mindset when dealing with the public. They believe their authority is not allowed to be questioned. The culture and society has lost its ability to carry on a lively debate between citizens and government. This is primarily due to both citizens and cops being ignorant in the law of liberty. All that remains is emotional jibberish and violent acts.

I would hate to be a cop in today's world. I believe many who would want to be good cops, don't want anything to do with the job. This leaves a larger portion who shouldn't be wearing a badge with weapons.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:44 | 6178273 nuubee
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It was a lawful command. When cops are attempting to determine what happened and who may or may not have broken the law, you are breaking the law by preventing them from doing this job. If the cop feels unsafe by you or your groups presence, he can legally order you to leave the area. If you do not comply with that order, you are preventing the lawful activities of a police officer, simple as that.

She was asked, multiple times, to leave the area, she did not. The mouth-running-backtalk from the ridiculously narcissistic bitch was just what made him decide to stop being nice and enforce the law he's legally allowed to enforce.

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