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The Noose Around Syria's Assad Tightens
While Obama is currently under fire for stating at the recently concluded G-7 summit in Germany that the US "does not yet have a complete strategy" how to deal with ISIS, the reality as relates to the true US strategy, namely the ouster of Syria's president al Assad, could not be more different. Because while ISIS continues to deflect attention from what is really happening in the middle east, the noose around Syria's Assad is tightening one day at a time, with the latest blow coming overnight after Syrian "rebels", also supported by the US (and allowed to call in B-1B strikes), scored a major military victory capturing the second biggest Syrian army base in the south of the country, located in the city of Daraa near the border with Jordan, and just 100 km south of Damascus.
Reuters reports that Syrian rebels said they had captured a major base from the Syrian army in the south of the country on Tuesday, a setback that would increase pressure on President Bashar al-Assad after his recent losses elsewhere.
"We announce the liberation of Liwa 52," Issam al-Rayyes, spokesman for the "Southern Front" alliance of mainstream rebel groups, told Reuters. Liwa 52, or the 52nd Brigade, is one of the biggest Syrian army bases in the area.
The southern region near the border with Jordan and Israel is one of the areas where insurgents have inflicted significant defeats on Assad in the last three months, notably the capture of the Nasib border crossing with Jordan on April 1.
Less than 100 km (60 miles) south of Damascus, the area is one of the last major footholds of mainstream rebels who have been eclipsed elsewhere in Syria by jihadist groups such as Islamic State and the Nusra Front, al Qaeda's Syrian arm.
Nusra and other hardline Islamist groups also have a presence in the south, including Ahrar al-Sham, which said it was involved in the attack.
The rebels had fired more than 100 missiles at the base during the
attack, the opposition-affiliated Orient News TV station said.
The rebels have failed in previous attempts to capture the base.
Official Syrian sources quickly denied the military defeat, as expected, although when fighting a war on three fronts with enemies who have been directly (or indirectly) armed by the US, it is now only a matter of time:
The report earlier on Syrian state TV said the army had repelled an attempt by "a terrorist group" to infiltrate a military position. It said a number of the attackers had been killed and wounded, including a rebel commander. The air force was carrying out raids in the area, it added.
"The Southern Front" alliance has been coordinating operations against Assad from a joint command center in Jordan. They have received some support from foreign states that want to see Assad gone, including Gulf Arab governments.
"It is very important because it is the second biggest base the regime has (in the south)," said Saber Safar, a former army colonel whose "First Army" rebel group was one of a number of factions that said they took part. He spoke to Reuters via Skype in the early stages of the attack.
And speaking of time, the US-led alliance realizes very well that as long as Assad has to fight three fronts: i.e., the Nusra Front in the northwestern province of Idlib and ever closer proximity to Syria's main infrastructure hub of Latakia, ISIS in the central part of the nation where they recently took over the historic town of Palmyra, and the official "rebel" force in proximity to Damascus, Assad's army will either eventually be obliterated or, more likely, mutiny and overthrow the president, putting the Ukraine scenario in play.
The setbacks for Assad have prompted Western policymakers to suggest a window of opportunity for a political deal may be opening in Syria.
But the defeats have also triggered renewed statements of support for Assad from Iran, whose backing has been crucial to his survival.
Which leave two key oustanding questions: i) what is the maximum pain level for Russia, which has the greatest vested in interest in preserving the Assad regime in place, and when does Putin finally get involved, and ii) how.
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Assad leaving would get that civil war really started.
This is a re-post from another thread…
There’s an interesting development in the Middle East.
Iran has dispatched 15,000 fighters to Syria to help government troops reverse recent battlefield defeats to a rebel-Jihadi coalition. Those are elite Quds units and NOT the Hezbollah.
The shiite is getting serious down there ;-)
Looney
When Israel starts bombing Syria on a regular basis, then the end is near for Assad.
Looks like the Neocons are about to trash another country completely after having success in Iraq, Afghnaistan, Libya, Yemen. Iran is next.
Meanwhile G7 escalate threats against Russia:
G7 leaders escalate war threats against Russia
By Thomas Gaist9 June 2015
During their second day of discussions in the resort town of Garmisch-Partenkirchen in the German Alps on Monday, the leaders of the major imperialist powers affirmed their commitment to a policy of escalating strategic and military pressure against Russia.
“We need to keep pushing Russia,” Obama said. “Russian forces continue to operate in eastern Ukraine, violating Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.”
“The G7 is making it clear that if necessary we stand ready to impose additional significant sanctions against Russia,” Obama declared.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/06/09/ukra-j09.html
Iran will soon expand it's border by sending millions of volunteers into Iraq and Syria.
The new Persia.
Yeah, it was always the Iranians, right?
Dissembling asshat.
I am no fan of Assad, just like I was no fan of his daddy, Hafez, or of Saddam, or of Muammar.
But just as we f’d up Iraq and Libya, we are now in the process of f’ing up Syria.
What is the formal name of our foreign policy?
It has to be something like “F’ng Up the World, One Country At A Time”.
The US is driving for world governance you realize?
Sure, but the US is not doing the driving. Obama is just the front man for Red Shield, Rockerf’r, Warbags et al.
Most defiinitely the bull in the china shop phase of a crashing empire.
What is interesting is that there is a parasitical state, literally and always called a state that has the greater or general populace of America (and now largely the world) hypno-fucking-tized....
Weird connection, UK, US and ISISrael.
Meanwhile, new....Boxes and Taut Strings,:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsrCg7rwcqA
The truth?
https://plus.google.com/118065971271241712835/posts/Hypk3zNJjQc
Hit the nail on the head.
Take away the evildoers you mention and someone else will take their place.
Take away government and those evildoers will have to find some other way of satisfying their insane lust for control. Like become dominatrices.
Like become dominatrices.
You don't have any phone numbers, do you?
Obola is just a Zi'Borg asset.
Doing a bang-up job, as far as they are concerned.
The son is not the father. Syria is one of the last countries without a central bank run by you know who. Off how the US Fed co chair ran the central bank for another country that controls ConGress.
Hezbollah and Iran have been helping the Syrians and the Russians have also been helping the Syrian people. They need to step it up.
I have great respect for the Syrian people. The same respect I have for Egyptians and NovoRussians plus Serbs who fought again ZATO.
Americans are a joke by comparison.
Could not agree more. Just because a place is fucked-up doesn't mean the USA can fix it. Arrogantly stupid in light of the facts on the ground. Intentionally or not - the USA armed ISIS.
is it even the USA anymore?? once the states power caved to federal in every way (money/law) the powers that be are CIA/MIC/Federal Reserve
I am no fan of the FBI but you'd have to think that they would be the only entity that would still have any position to contest what is going on.. that's probably why they made NSA and Homeland Sec.... to dilute the FBI to just busting Silk Road and child porn
Chaos. They are not just preparing for chaos, they are seeding it. Iraq? In semi-chaos. Libya? Total chaos. Syria? Soon to have total chaos. Ukraine? Moving in the direction of chaos.
The periphery is no longer holding, and since we can't hold it any longer, our foreign policy appears to be to simply burn it down so no one else can either. Had a acquaintance in Libya, haven't heard from him since Hillary and Barry did him the great favor of destabilizing his country. I am sure that he feels that he is far better off now with their help.
And yes, I realize that the periphery is all part of the Russian/China block. It is no surprise to me that all of these areas are all at least partly in their sphere of influence.
It's the US that is expansionist dipshit.
And Israel using American power to knock any of Israel's potential adversaries to their knees. If you can't be big, make everybody else even smaller.
like using the only gym shower that has hot water?
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Laughed. Interestingly, you get paid for the broadcast of such nonsense, or what?
I am not sure how off base he is, Iran can send plain clothed "troops" just as easy as the Saudis can for ISIS.
There are several or more like 3 to 5 forces at work in the ME .. everyone wants a caliphate or a 'greater' this or that .. and the US .. Anglo AMerican alliance.. is providng the cannon fodder and the money to one side or another depending on what agenda or goals are likely to be met .. all in all this sucks.
When Assad falls, we'll get to see a REAL clusterfuck unfold and it should be a dandy.....
Follow : Syrian Perspective on internet . They will give you a better picture on Syrian invasion . Zh picks selective news on syria .
I look at what all the players say, but take it all with a grain of salt. Middle east history is long and turbulent and the way they broke up the Ottoman empire made it worse......
A history lesson some of which I did not know ..
For nearly 400 years prior to World War I, the lands of Iraq existed as three distinct semi-autonomous provinces, or vilayets, within the Ottoman Empire. In each of these vilayets, one of the three religious or ethnic groups that predominated in the region – Shiite, Sunni and Kurd – held sway, with the veneer of Ottoman rule resting atop a complex network of local clan and tribal alliances. This delicate system was undone by the West, and for an all-too-predictable reason: oil.
In order to raise an Arab revolt against the Ottomans, who had joined with Germany and Austria-Hungary in World War I, Great Britain forged a wartime alliance with Emir Hussein of the Hejaz region of Arabia, now the western edge of Saudi Arabia bordered by the Red Sea. The 1915 pact was a mutually advantageous one. Since Hussein was an extremely prominent Islamic religious figure, the guardian of the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, the alliance inoculated the British against the Ottoman accusation that they were coming into the Middle East as Christian Crusaders. In return, Britain’s promises to Hussein were extravagant: independence for virtually the entire Arab world,,,,,,
What Hussein didn’t know was that, just months after reaching this accord, the British government secretly made a separate – and very much conflicting – pact with their chief ally in World War I, France. Under the terms of the Sykes-Picot Agreement, the future independent Arab nation was to be relegated to the wastelands of the Arabian peninsula, while all the most politically and commercially valuable portions of the Arab world – greater Syria, Mesopotamia – would be carved into British and French imperial spheres.Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/disintegration-iraqi-state-has-its...
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So all this begs the question:
What is the plan AFTER Assad is sent to grass?
There is still that Qatar-Saudi-Iraq-Syria pipeline which needs to be built.
Good post.
I can’t tell you how many times the war between the Assad government and the rebels has changed directions from gaining ground to losing ground. And each time “the noose tightens.”
I try to keep up on Syria, and for months have seen the slow advance of the Syrian Army. There is back-and-forth, but overall Assad is WINNING (for the smoking ruins, anyway). The Syrian Army losses were not really that big of a deal, but the MSM crowed about the few of them unusually loud - it was noticeable and odd.
A few weeks ago, they really ramped up the narrative about how 'Assad was finished' and 'Assad's army is losing' - a narrative that was automatically picked up and regurgitated by all other MSM stenographers. I thought I must have been hit by a truck and been in a coma for a few months. Losses? Huh? It was way too easy to argue the opposite. 'The rebels' are pretty much gone and the Syrian Army isn't doing too bad. Even the Rojava Kurds are still kicking ass and expanding well outside Kobane.
The Syrian Army have mosly been gaining this year, period. Fuck the latest MSM narrative.
The 'Southern Command' was laughable BS from day one - everyone knows it's the U.S./Jordan/Israel-backed al Nusra guys from Aman. Their job was to use whatever means (chemical weapons) to take out the air defense installations on the hills that border the Golan. Israel wanted unimpeded access to Syrian airspace. They (along with their Jordan stooges) provided air cover for al Nusra. The al Nusra fake Southern Command eventually got the job done with little mention of the chemical weapons they used, but ISIS and even the supposed rebels hated JAN. They were getting their ass kicked in the towns surrounding the air defense installations.
Jahbat al Nusra IS al Qaeda in Syria - no ambiguity in the least. Last month, they pushed too close to Lebanon and pissed of Hezbollah. Hezbollah has just started slaughtering those evil fuckers left and right, prompting a full-retard response by Israel and the U.S. which apparently incudes a secret shift in our air attacks from 'just bombing ISIS' in Syria to 'bombing Syrian troops and Hezbollah, too'. Isn't that kind of like war? Did we actually declare war on Syria and Lebanon or are we exempt from those rules, too?
And Israel. They, of course, do not want to see Syria retake any of the air defense sites on the hills in the Houran Plateau that border the Golan. They had to use up a bunch of perfectly good chemical weapons and bunker busters to kill SAA troops and destroy the Syrian SAMs and electronic listening posts. The last thing they want is Assad to retake those hills, dig in far deeper, and stuff them to the gills with S-400s. Now that that very situation is possible, we get this bizzare spin about how Assad is losing, while the U.S. is secretly making direct attacks on Syrian troops - a fact completely ignored by Western MSM. Israel, of course, also wants to steal more Syrian land 'for protection' - so I expect them to use some kind of false-flag to claim another illegal 50 mile strip from Syria beyond their other illegally stolen Golan land.
So Saudi Arabia is killing Iraqi troops and nuking Yemen. Israel is bombing Hezbollah inside Lebanese and Syrian borders and preparing to annex the Houran Plateau. And the U.S. has secretly 'expanded' their anti-ISIS mission to include directly attacking Syrian army positions in an act of war.
What the fuck could possibly go wrong with this scenario?
That's why those bastards took out Dee Dee [sniff!]
The Iranians are "fighting them over there (Syria), so they don't have to fight them here (Iran)."
Looks like the Iranians are taking the Bushwhacker's advice.
The combination of massive Russian arms shipments to both the Iraqi and Syrian governments and the Iranian boots on the ground will enable the rollback of ISIS.
The MIC/neocons got their Syrian war afterall.
The hope, of course, is that we can do for Syria what we achieved in Iraq and Libya: dysfunctional, inhumane shit-holes. Way to go, boys.
By taking out Syria, they (Zionists and Manifest-Destiny Neocons) achieve Key Objectives in the ME:
1. Eliminate Iranian link to Hezbollah in S. Lebanon (via Syria)
2. With Hezbollah eliminated in Lebanon, Israel + Saudis are free to attack Iran, w/o worry of blowback via proxies
3. Stage is set for sudden "Elimination of or Agreements with ISIS", and the path is cleared for an eventual Qatari-Saudi pipeline via Syria to Turkey, and probably a branch-off to Israel.
4. Russia will lose its naval port in Tartus, Syria and with it, its only Mediterranean port
5. With Russia out of the Med (tied down at home and out of Syria), Israel can develop its energy claims in the E. Med.
6. With Syria in pieces and millions gone, Israeli farmers (Lukid/Zionist Settlers) can expand their operations and expand their control and usage of water from/in Syria.
Good points. Not too hard to calculate once one drops the illusions.
B-1 pilots flying out of Qatar are Blindfolded Idiots!
On the bright side, one SAM reaches them and they will be heroes.
pods
Back in October David Stockman wrote about Syria and ISIS but he left out that this is about REGIME CHANGE in Syria not about ISIS. The USAF bombed a Syrian gas plant the week before he penned the article and has attacked targets not related to ISIS but rather to the government of Assad.
ISIS had been trained and armed by .gov to overthrow Assad in Syria.
Syria was slated to undergo what Libya and Iraq did, destabilization. This was the primary aim of the Jewish lobby and so the government of the USA, the slave of the Jewish lobby, went ahead and trained and armed ISIS to overthrow Assad. Who is an ophthalmologist. He and his lovely wife and children are WHITE people. They celebrate CHRISTMAS!
The lemmings may be fooled, if they even are watching or reading anything about it, which I doubt, but not informed observers who read media that are not owned by the 5th column in this nation of America.
As of June 2003 Israel has cost the US taxpayers over $3 Trillion. Probably double that by now.
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/june2003/0306020.html
the ttip. eu. all run by former nazis and their descendents. ratlines odessa paperclip and red house maison rouge.
keep having paid trolls blame israel for everything.
peopel want to say israel is the colonialist.
the west is the colonialists . the EU is the colonialists of all of europe by power elite. isreal has zilch to do with it and is a small pawn in the game, which will one day be sacrificied anyways.
What makes you think the Zionist aren't working with today's Nazi's? By all appearances they are, especially in Ukraine. A useful idiot (Nazi's) is still a useful idiot. Jewish logic would dictate that the Nazi's are a useful tool, don't forget that just Nazi'ism isn't necessarily anti-Jewish, Hitler was but that doesn't mean Nazi'ism is. Basically Nazi'ism is a total centralized power structure command economy/government. Plenty of Jews in Gov't both in the Republican and Democrat Camps seam to love centralized control. So a Jew can be a Nazi.
a 'jew' can be a nazi yes. .
but judaism like christianity cannot. nazism is secret occultism by power elite.
judaism and chrisitianity NOT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH or other institutions. but the religion as OPENLY PRACTICED states that human beings have free choice and that they are all equal in the eyes of god more or less.
nazism is about secrecy and supriority in all resepcts. the plebians are tools at the disposal of the greater good, even the masses of blue eyed aryans are just mere tools for the occult elite.
this is not the case in openly practiced religions doctrine. the nazis are against his doctrine. they burn books. not just old testament but new one.
the catholic church survived hitler by playing ball with him, and in some respects opportunistically using the nazi regime to push their own goals. they are not 'christianity' as doctrine but their own institinoal power elite threatened by nazidom.
can institions be nazi , yes. can nazi openly support the doctrine of open peace and generic equality preached by most if not all the worlds major religions NO>
don't kid yourself. the nazi occult ethos rejects god and places MAN in his place the same exact way 'communism' does. they are virtually the same in underlying assumption of superiority of the overclass to structure mankinds entire reality.
religion embraces god in part NOT as the real king, but as the element of fate and chance, where we are all equal in our powerlessness against nature or reality. nazi-communism occultism invoked the WILLPOWER of man as triumphant against all natural forces and thus denies the existence of god in the replacement of god/nature/chance/powerlessness-----BY MAN HIMSELF; ESSENTIALLy turning man into the GOD KING.
this is a dangerous game. and when someone claims to be the second coming of jesus , like hitler claimed to be-----they are lying.
jesus is jesus because he is a legend and not a live man right now. you cannot be a god king without destroying the present notion of gods in the public sphere. and that is a very dnagerous game to play.
i am a nature-god(s) fearing man. i have a hard time believing in 'god' but i get the concept and have much deep respect and love for those of faith in any religion, or just spiritual folk who practice their spirit in the stream of fear/humiliyt/love/respect/devotion.
to deny the existence of god is to replace god with some other god(s) in one's head. man is one of those gods. speicifc men sporadically lay claim to being MAN god. these are the so called anti-christs, tyrants, historical conquerors, whateever you want to call them.
your narrow minded thinking about a jew being a nazi belies the reality that ANYONE CAN CELEBRATE THE VALUES OF NAZIDOM. the point is that a real christian or real spiritual person or real jew cannot embrace these anti-thetical values by the very definitnion of what they claim to be.
the quesiton is always about sinceriety honestly and legitimacy. a real (person of faith) cannot be a nazi. if they are a nazi they are not a person of faith in human spirity.
nazism is barbarian occultism. the faith in man's power and strength to dominate all and refashion the world entirely as he wants. a product of control insanity.
Nazirite or was that nazi rite, the language itself gives it away. Elites, now who follows El again, bringing light does he, wonder where that word originated. Judiasm is nothing but occultism. What you don't seem to understand is they claim they are the gods, and your nothing but their creation. Try reading their own writings. Samson the Nazi-Rite, bringing down the two pillars, killing 3000, sounds like 911, eh. How about Moses smasing his two pillars, aka the tablets, whoops, there goes another 3000. Same repeating occultic crap.
It ain't about faith, it's about being able to discern truth from bull.
Todays Jews are the new Nazis, and todays Palestinians are the new Jews.....And the Jitlers want to wipe out the Pews...GENOCIDE
this is typical idiotic fucking anti-semitic rhetoric. ignorant and deliberately fucking stupid. your'e a fucking moron.
"They celebrate CHRISTMAS!"
Well, there you go: Christians ('Turners of the Other Cheek') got NO chance against the more aggressive species around them. They need a kick-ass deity real fast, who will order them to become rulers and wolves, not servants and sheep (the way warrior gods like Elohim/YHWH and Allah did). Instead they are stuck with some do-gooder Jew (a genuine DNA-Hebrew, not the Khazar or Ash K Nazi variety), whom the Romans promoted to god-status and turned the faith of his followers into a "Religion By and Of Slaves, but For Roman Rulers" -- with its glorification of poverty, submission and obedience, its blind hope, endless faith, and some potential reward in Never-Never-Land. Fuck, are slaves and sheeple gullible, malleable and downright 'stoopid'!
In hindsight, as some here predicted (myself included), ASSAD SHOULD NEVER HAVE GIVEN UP HIS CHEMS. If the US had threatened to attack, they should have responded with a guaranteed threat of (a) the use of that famous Russian air defenses missiles to shoot down Aggressor planes, and (b) to use Chems in a counter strike against its enemies inside and outside its borders.
IOW... Assas should have threatened the use of the SAMPSON OPTION. You people are familiar with that, right? And that one particular country (Israel) that is somehow allowed to use this Option, is not held to non-proliferation treaties, but is allowed to have its own ABC arsenal? Assad, the first rule of Poker (since Russians play chess, not Poker), is to learn to play the Game: Know when to Ante, See, Call. Learn to bluff. If they believe you're crazy and desperate enough to use WMD's if forced to, then just maybe they won't force you to use them. TFL now. (And, FWIW, think of who makes more money and has more buildings and cities built: those who play the games of Litigation and Poker, or those who play the game of Chess? These are paradigms worth mulling over)
What first looked like a Russian diplomatic victor, may now turn into a Boomerang toss that missed its target and is on its way back. Sad to say.
p.s. As usual, my provocative tome is not to offend, but to (hopefully) give people pause to consider alternate paradigms than the old ones they are comfy with. Thinking outside the box of dusty ideas and paradigms is what a starship captain needs to do, if he is to "Boldly go..." Perhaps not all are suited for such a scary journey?
When Jesus Christ returns (and the signs are all around- that day hastens) it will be to execute judgement. He will act as King of Kings and Lord of Lords to destroy all wickedness and reward righteousness.
The Heavenly Warrior Defeats the Beast
11I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. 12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”a He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
17And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.”
19Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army. 20But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. 21The rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.
-Revelation 19:11-21
It's bad enough that borderless nomads control America. But even worse is that is the army allows itself to be turned into a brothel for them. Our armed services are prostituted out for wars that have nothing to do with us. Murdering tens of thousands in the process does not seem to bother the officers. The military academies should be renamed army and navy brothel schools.
Murdering tens of thousands in the process does not seem to bother the officers.
It is a lot more than that - just look at Iraq:
US Sponsored Genocide Against Iraq 1990-2012. Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Children
Statement by Professor Francis Boyle, Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunalhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-genocide-against-iraq-1990-201...
The universal law of Karma will hit back. It's a butterfly effect. Just a matter of time, I guess.
Russia should go all Medieval on ISIS and invite China too! Then they should proxy the hell out of Saudia Arabia!
DAMN, you beat me to it JB, but my post touches on the finer points...
N.B. Love the proxy against Saud stuff.
It would be interesting to see the Russians come to a call to aid from Syria to help them fight Terrorism / ISIS, the media would have a hard time spinning that one, I am sure they would find a way. But none the less it would be interesting.
I can't understand why Assad hasn't officially called for help from the Russians and the Chinese in defeating ISIS. Tell the world that the coalition Obama put together isn't working and close all air space to them, get the Russian/Chinese airforce in and obliterate them.
This would
a) Show the world that Obamas coalition were never serious about defeating ISIS.
b) Prove to the 'Sheeple' that the Russians and Chinese are NOT the enemy of mankind.
c) Give the Chinese airforce a taste of war and ready them for the coming war against the U.S.
d) Free up Assads troops for dealing with the FSA
e) Wipe out most of ISIS (C.I.A Mossad) fighters
f) Make Pliskin very happy
What's not to love about this idea?
Obviously one person (Downvote) didn't love my idea...
Wasn't aware John Mcain was a ZHer.
You need to spell it right, it's John McStain...
HaHa
The only thing that guy could accomplish is a piss-stain.
Johnny boy doesn't spend time reading anything unless it adds to his loot. It's probably one of his concubies defending him with downvotes.
Johnny boy doesn't spend time reading anything unless it adds to his loot. It's probably one of his concubies defending him with downvotes.
I hear what you are saying but I am not in favor of a war with China or anyone else that puts our Men, women or my children at risk unless absolutely necessary for the defense of our nation.
you fucking idiot you got a downvote because he already did officially ask for their help behind close doors and he's getting whatever help they are willing to give.
dumbass.
The Russians and the Chinese won't get involved until we directly attack them, which is exactly how prudent nations should behave, regardless of the soundbite optics.
My best guess is they realize that once armies come in they never leave....examples like Japan, Germany, S Korea etc....
Maybe China and Russia aren't ready yet and willing to sacrifice Syria?
Maybe covert troops are there already....contrary to our "exceptionalism" we're not the only country with Mercenary armies....i agree they should provide air support and take down the israelis bombing the shit out of govt forces....curiously missing "ISIS"
Russia and China maybe realize that embroil the US/Israel into a larger war, then destabalize after we expend too many resources?
but you bring up good points, i've wondered myself
also, who really knows what's going on? there were articles how ISIS was just 1km from Assads palace 4 weeks ago....now they're 100km away.....
1km away one day, 100km away the next day...it sounds like the Grexit!
Well russia is supplying weapons to not only syria but iraq also now after being betrayed by muricans . Yes i agree eith your point that China must roll in and gain some war expertise here . Yhey need to bring in their own jet fighters test them out . Their cheap hi trch weapon , mbts etc . Rusdia will not send their troops . But it can work with Iran to fend isis monkeys . Its more of Iran's role now .
"I can't understand why Assad hasn't officially called for help from the Russians and the Chinese in defeating ISIS."
Probably already has but with Ziomedia having a lock on what gets put out, the truth never surfaces.
I think a million man Iranian, Chinese army can figure the ME out.
Damn, I feel sorry for the average Syrian. Poor bastards...
They are to be blamed as well. After all it's Syrian killing Syrians. If you are too dumb and can be manipulated so easily you will be used as a pawn.
Dumbo syrians are not killing themselves . Still eating your mainstream propaganda .
It's not Syrians killing Syrians as much as it is non-Syrians, emptied from Saudi jails, paid by Qatar, trained by USSA, UK, French special forces, other assorted furits and nuts from Europe, Canada and the USSA looking for God or glory in the fight against a secular strongman.
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It is known that the majority of 'rebels' in Syria are foreign invaders sponsored by the arabian swineherds known as the Saudi Royals.
Trouble is when it comes to renewal of propaganda, US citizens are failing to show the creativity they are used to celebrating themselves for. Such feeble propaganda efforts as yours are to be pitied. So US citizenish...
You have at least got your scheme reversely.
If you are a US citizen, then you have to look around and fast. You are denying a phenomenum large and open to all to see.
If all the ISIS and Al-Nusra fighters are actually foreign invaders (which I don't believe) then the citizens of the countries like Saudi, Qatar,Tukey are responsible for allowing their governments to support the terrorists. The same rule applies for Americans as well.The only difference is in those countries it's much difficult to go against the government as there much bigger players against them. CIA and mossad can assasinate any real leader in those countries to put their stooges in power.
Save your tears.
Coming to a theater near you - real soon.
When Bush took out Saddam the first thing they did was try to kill all the Christians and Jews. When Assad falls the infidels must die. But the US doesn't give a fuck.
Mike Masr says:
...the US doesn't give a fuck.
Almost right. Obama & his Admin don't give a fuck. But lots of Americans care about what's happening. What can we do, though? Those self-serving assholes run the show, not us.
Taking out Saddam was a big mistake, in retrospect. I was all rah-rah like just about 90% of everyone. And I was frickin' WRONG. Not the first time; won't be the last, either.
But, don't we ever learn?? Taking out Boy Assad would be like taking out the Sadman — doubled and squared. Does anyone think that ISIS won't step right in and fill the vacuum?
So I think that's Islamobama's plan. He was raised by Muzzies and Commies, and it's been real lucrative for him. He failed upward without lifting a finger, right into the White House. Why would he change a thing?
IMHO the whole Obama thing's been a total fiasco from the get-go. Half the people in America are now on the dole, and half of the rest are unfireable burreaucratic layabouts, warming chairs in the Dep't of energy, and Homeland Security, and the EPA, and the Dep't of Edumacation, etc., etc., etc., etc.
Last stop on the handbasket to hell: the U.S. handing its head on a silver platter to the UN kleptocrats, with a "carbon" tax that gives the gov't every government's ultimate wet dream: taxing the air we breathe! And all to re-make Plato's ideal society: 1% – 2% of card-carrying Party members at the top, supported by a compliant military showing the colors in every neighborhood — and the rest of us will be the plebe workerbees, happily paying the freight with our 65% - 80% fed & state tax rates.
It will be Heaven on Earth, and all for safety & security. A fair trade, no?
No.
we suck
Yet another day in bizzaro world. Any citizen that can still support this US gov is a halfwit at best. Every country they meddle with ends up tattered beyond belief.
Of course Obama has no ISIS strategy. They are doing all the heavy lifting for him.
I agree with Looney. What is holding Iran back from a full scale military campaign to wipe out ISIS, Al Nusra and other rebel groups is the negotiations over their nuclear development program.
Once that issue is settled, Iran can come to terms with the Kurds in the North, the Shias in the Center and South, and drive through to Syria. ISIS would be forced to retreat to the northern regions of Syria ans the Northwes corner of Iraq, where American support -that's right, American- will prevent their total defeat. I don't think the US and Israel will use their airpower against Iran until it has crippled ISIS.
A land corridor from Tehran and Baghdad to Damascus is essential. Hezbollah and Syria will be free to concentrate on seizing and holding the Damascus-Idlib-Aleppo-Latakia wedge.
The solution to the Syrian war is to nuke Israel . End of the story !
That is a solution for many, many problems.
The solution is to nuke Israel. End of story !
Fixed it for ya.
Insightful commentary by Patrick J. Buchanan:
Our Next Mideast War — Syria
"Israel aiding the Nusra Front with intelligence and even air strikes"
Is ISIS Coming to Damascus?
If i were Assad, i take my gold and run to Russia.
There will never be a Syria to rule over, so why stay.
The country is almost gone.
He cannot leave like that. He is the leader.
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That is precisely what political leaders do
They take the gold and run
Is Russia going to abandon their port in Tartus? That's what I'd like to know...
It's to Assad's eternal credit that he hasn't fled. Especially after seeing how Qaddafy ended.
I'd much rather have Putin covering my back and providing security than Obama or for that matter any Western leader. As long as an armored HIP is in the courtyard and the KGB-FSS is guarding me I'll stay and grab as much money as I can.
the ukraine war will end, and the americans will murder porochenko once the syrian deal is done.
ukraine is a means towards the current ends of restructuring the middle east by syria than iran.
ukriane is merely the distraction. the nato angloamericans alwyas knew it is unnecessary but just a useful leverage point so long as they could get ukranian oligarchs to sacrafice their own people to put pressure on russia.
so far it seems to be working.
ukraine is now just a sacrficial pawn.
syria is the real meat at the moment. next meat in ten years ; iran.
What ten years? US dollar will die by that time. The US has to do it quickly.
US policy here can't be said to be deposing Assad alone. The fabric of the country is being torn apart. This seems to be about destroying Syria as a state, and the ability for what is now Syria to be anything like a viable state.
Assad, like Khaddafi, was no angel, but is clearly, inarguably, substantially better than the alternative, and also no worse than the Saudis with whom we happily do business. They may leave him a rump Alawite state in the north/west - we'll see, but that Russian naval base, while small, is likely a target.
Wars between mercenaries and takfiris and nationalists and Baathists will rage on, turning a one modern country with good, free healthcare and education into a basket case - just like Libya, just like Iraq, and not dissimilar to what happened in Lebanon.
I've read the pipeline theories - I disagree with the Qatari pipeline idea. You can not build a pipeline through bandit country. Not for years and years. But it's a good way to *prevent* a pipeline, namely, the Shia one from Iran through Iraq on to Syria and Europe.
This is really despicable, sociopathic policy on the part of the US and allied governments. This is quite simply Hitlerian. It is disgusting.
my first reddie! I feel hurt, confused, a little ashamed, like the first time I let a teacher play with my balls, you know? Not sure where I went wrong on this one, though...
some NSA troll
they're confused by words of more than 1 syllable
no worries. lol
Come on Genius, don't feel bad, you have to take the rough with the smooth...I'm surprised your teacher didn't tell you that!
The goal is constant war, while "Victory" is only the goad.
But it's a good excuse for someone to use it as a reason to "prevent" a pipeline.......
Welcome to ZH, the wilderness of mirrors made of gold bullion.......
Why don't they quit fighting and read books.
That would be good, but I think the founding fathers said, "I must study poltics and war so my children can study mathematics and philosophy."
- John Adams
This was the intention of bombing ISIS to begin with. Russia will lose much face if this illegal bombing by the u.f.s.a is not countered somehow. I dare say probably more than half of this article is propaganda but still it points to the constant belligerent attitude of the West.
I was no fan of Saddam but look at our Iraq success story.... Gaddafi, look at the Libyan success story,,, Ukrainian Coup,,, look at our Ukrainian success story, aiding and abetting known Nazi's,,, Yeman,,, Look at that u.f.s.a. backed success story,,, and Afghanistan, another u.f.s.a success bell ringer.
Russia had best remember one important aspect of fascism. It feigns and fakes but it never quits. If they don't stop the spread of it they will lose their heritage and nation. The rape and plunder by the West will be the worse the world has ever been witness to.
Your move...
For Mr. Putin:
When does the nuclear threat become the nuclear strategy.
Assad's army will either eventually be obliterated or, more likely, mutiny and overthrow the president, putting the Ukraine scenario in play.
Whoever wrote this piece of propaganda bullshit is definitely counting their chickens before they hatch. Iran is in the process of sending over 15,000 troops into Syria to support the Syrian Army and Hezbollah (sp?) is mobilizing to do the same thing. Iran is on record recently stating that "Damascus will fall when Tehran falls . . ."
Syria needs nukes. Cleanse the global zionist threat once and for all.
I think Syria has already gotten at least one:
https://youtu.be/vm7ObVSix7w
This articles sounds like MSM twaddle. According to them, Assad was ready to fall for four years already.
Call it NPR-inspired wishful thinking - no better than Bush - see things as you wish them to be, with your rose-colored glasses of peace and progress, instead of how they really are.
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Article is based on reports from Reuters, for whom propaganda is making a living.
The only benefit (if possible) of this kind of articles is to show the US citizens incredible taste for propaganda.
Actually, they are probably the only ones tasting it.
I hope Putin comes to his rescue. no more instability is needed in that region!!
Israel will get their Lebensraum.
It's funny how many sheeple speak of ISIS like it is some grassroots rebel group, and not the CIA and Mossad creation they really are.
Most days I feel as if I'm Alice in Wonderland.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
Release the Kraken!-Vlad Putin
It becomes increasingly obvious why US oil storage has been filled by the great shale not-so-miracle. WOAR WOAR WOAR
Desperation in the Sputtering Push to Drive Russia from their Only Mideast Base through "Regime Change"?
well every other Obama foreign policy choice is a failure....so I assume the end game is to give a country to ISIS?
Perhaps the Alawites (and Christians) in Syria should ask Putin to help facilitate mass emigration to Russia. Russia has plenty of land and needs more people.
*** The Third Triumvirate ***
To make a long metaphor short, Antony and Octavian eroded the power of Lepidus and eventually the two of them fought it out at sea at the Battle of Actium, midway (give or take) between the Black Sea and the Baltic Sea.
The Nusra Front
The dread ISIS
Rebelstilskin (from Washington and Brussels)
The West is pulling for a victory of the Rebels, but how likely is that given ISIS's past performance and that of the rebels?
If ISIS prevails, it could either turn its Western weapons against the Muslim NATO nation, Turkey, to the north or to the south, toward Israel, the cause of all the problems in the middle east since the end of the last World War.
Leaving the Wicked Witches of the West between Scylla and Charybdis.
And replace him with... ISIS? Why remove a secular stable leader and replace him with fanatics? It worked out so well in Libya. Let's do it again.
Putin will send in troops before he lets Assad fall.
Obama is still trying to set up Muslim Brotherhood jihadist regimes.