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Obama Goes Full Stalin: Tells Secret Court To Ignore Law He Signed 4 Hours Earlier, Extend Illegal NSA Surveillance
Just when we thought the absurdity that marks every single day of Obama's reign could not possibly be surpassed, we learned that 4 hours (3 hours and 47 minutes to be precise) after the US president vowed to sign a new law banning bulk data collection by the NSA (named, for purely grotesque reasons, the "USA Freedom Act"), the Obama administration asked the secret Fisa surveillance court to ignore a federal court that found bulk surveillance illegal and to once again grant the National Security Agency the power to collect the phone records of millions of Americans for six months.
Or, as the Guardian's Spencer Ackerman, who spotted this glaring page out of Josef Stalin's playbook, summarized it:
June 2, 6:03pm: Obama says he'll sign law banning bulk collection.
June 2 9:50pm: DOJ asks secret court for 180 more days of bulk collection
— Spencer Ackerman (@attackerman) June 8, 2015
According to Ackerman, this latest travesty by the administration "suggests that the administration may not necessarily comply with any potential court order demanding that the collection stop."
Or, in other words, the administration "may" give orders that openly flaunt US laws. From the Guardian:
US officials confirmed last week that they would ask the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance court – better known as the Fisa court, a panel that meets in secret as a step in the surveillance process and thus far has only ever had the government argue before it – to turn the domestic bulk collection spigot back on.
This is a problem because Justice Department national security chief John A Carlin cited a six-month transition period provided in the USA Freedom Act – passed by the Senate last week to ban the bulk collection – as a reason to permit an “orderly transition” of the NSA’s domestic dragnet. However, Carlin "did not address whether the transition clause of the Freedom Act still applies now that a congressional deadlock meant the program shut down on 31 May."
So after the second circuit court of appeals already ruled NSA surveillance illegal, and after Congress officially shut down NSA's bulk data collection in its current form, Obama's DOJ decided to singlehandedly order that NSA spying on Americans be extended for at least another 6 months.
Follow the details of how the US Department of "Justice" crushes every semblance thereof:
Carlin asked the Fisa court to set aside a landmark declaration by the second circuit court of appeals. Decided on 7 May, the appeals court ruled that the government had erroneously interpreted the Patriot Act’s authorization of data collection as “relevant” to an ongoing investigation to permit bulk collection.
Carlin, in his filing, wrote that the Patriot Act provision remained “in effect” during the transition period.
“This court may certainly consider ACLU v Clapper as part of its evaluation of the government’s application, but second circuit rulings do not constitute controlling precedent for this court,” Carlin wrote in the 2 June application. Instead, the government asked the court to rely on its own body of once-secret precedent stretching back to 2006, which Carlin called “the better interpretation of the statute”.
The punchline:
The second circuit court of appeals is supposed to bind only the circuit’s lower courts. But the unique nature of the Fisa court – whose rulings practically never became public before whistleblower Edward Snowden’s revelations – has left ambiguous which public court precedents it is obliged to follow.
Said otherwise, the NSA's espionage activity is above the law, any law.
Amusingly, some still harbor hope that "justice" is still a viable concept in the United States, such as the FreedomWorks conservative group, which is asking the Fisa court to essentially disband itself:
On Friday, the conservative group FreedomWorks filed a rare motion before the Fisa court, asking it to reject the government’s surveillance request as a violation of the fourth amendment’s prohibition on unreasonable searches and seizures. Fisa court judge Michael Moseman gave the justice department until this coming Friday to respond – and explicitly barred the government from arguing that FreedomWorks lacks the standing to petition the secret court.
Which, incidentally, is like asking Wall Street to police itself. A quick reminder of what happened there: after gross market manipulation was taking place for years involving trillions of interest-rate products, the person who witnessed it every single day called it, don't laugh, a "conspiracy theory."
Incidentally, "conspiracy theorists" is precisely what all those who accused the NSA of engaging in mass illegal surveillance even before the Snowden revelations, were branded as. And, we are confident, before all is said and done, the "conspiracy theorists" who dare speak the truth against the surreal Orwellian state that the US finds itself in, will be crushed by the administration, both the current and the one that will replace it, whose every day modus operandi is taken straight out of the Stalin memoirs.
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A secret court huh...didn't the Nazi's ahve one of those too???
HEIL OBAMA!!!!!!
Can't stand this POS
As cunts go, Obama takes some beating.
Hopefully with a baseball bat sometime soon.
I know I feel much safer now......
Because the Brownshirts are all around you, everywhere.
Banana Republic...
They don't want to work, they want YOU to work.
"Which, incidentally, is like asking Wall Street to police itself."
But Wall Street does police itself and bar all competition through the laws and regulations promulgated by government. But somehow folks think that more government regulation will stop what is created by government regulation.
Stalin spelled backwards Nilats
Burma!
Why'd you say Burma?
I panicked.
Always keep in mind who Obama is working for... Who everybody is working for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twRDQmmxLkw
It must have been the pool party that set Obama off. White people now being punished.
Officer Faceplant resigned. The Chief called his actions "indefensible" although I saw a lot of folks trying to do just that.
I'm thinking it's almost time. Watering time.
In my administration, WJC, GWB and BHO would all be arrested and then tried for treason and a whole bunch of other infractions.
In my administration there would be no arrests or trials for the crimes being committed now.
It might not wind up being the longest on record, with volumes of new laws being put on the books to build precedent on or to ooo & aaahhh over...but it would certainly be useful & productive ;-)
MOAR LAWS!!! Yeah, that'll fix everything....
MOAR TAXES!!! Yeah, that's what we need, more slave burdens, that'll fix them slaves...
MOAR POLICE BRUTALITY!!!! Yeah, that'll scare those criminals straight....
MOAR SURVEILLANCE!!! Yeah, that'll help us put more people in prison...
/end sarcasm
I don't see what difference it makes, we already know they are going to implement digital implants, BANK ON IT. Therefore, they will be able to monitor everyone's activity & identity, like a real Nazi State... (Bend over America)
I know this is going to seem weird to some...BUT...my son is now sixteen, in 1998 I made sure he didn't have anything, privately.
Thats how much I trusted them a decade and a half ago. As far as DNA collection at birth in any hospital now, I wouldn't be at all surprised.
The placenta is just for "scientific research"...for the good of all and anonymity is "guaranteed by law" in a police state isn't it...right? ;-)
Do you REALLY think it makes any difference either way? What do you think the NSA is doing with all that storage capacity in Utah? Whether they record all converstaions and internet activity DIRECTLY or get it via GCHQ to circumvent both National laws, doesn't really make much difference. Meanwhile they hate us for our freedoms........................
Can't wait for the day when his jew masters come after his corrupt black ass.
Miserable POS!
arrest, convict, execute.. not necessarily in that order
Has anyone read the law? The 6 month sunset is part of the LAW itself.
NSA and FBI arent national security oriented, they are blackmail and industrial espinage machines. If they were focused on national security they would have stopped 9-11, Boston Bombing and Waco shooters.
Obama care doesn't go far enough. What we need is single-payer. Healthcare should be free. I need Uncle Sam to fix my teeth.
Trux, it matters hardly at all. The hyperventilating over the LAW when most (even here, except the LAWyers) really what is going on the Criminal Justice System, including the courts, the three letter agencies, the LEO's.....all of it.
How can they get away with so many false convictions? So many!
It's a CRIMINAL just us system and they can and will do what they want, when they want it.
Ka Boo Ki!
New Guitar...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsrCg7rwcqA
The only LEO is the Sheriff and their deputies. Highway patrol, state troopers and police are code enforcers. Just ask them, they know.
All Part of the Plan!
TPTB are now operating the biggest damn BIG DATA center in Utah and elsewhere underground.
Do any of the Brother here on ZH believe the TPTB will allow any data collection to go DARK? Chart the progression of Big Data from cradle to today. I and others have been writing about this years ago.
We have been living in the Matrix for a long long time. With Big Data we will evolve to Minority Report phase where predictive technologies will prevail. "I know you WILL be guilty Tuesday, so I protecting the plebs now.
What follows is the Terminator phase where the TPTB reduce population by remote control (drones anyone?). Droning death is so yesterday.
I think we need more movies.... heh. (old farts, can you say Logan's Run?)
Utah can kill it simply by turning off the water (2 million gallons /day).
Maybe so but I'd doubt it without real state legislation...
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=25978926&nid=148
At that kind of water consumption, I'd be willing to wager they are going to cause another drought...
(Just like Neslte, fracking, & silicon valley did in Cali...)
nmewn,
I have some boxes of things that are heavy to carry.
I keep them to defend OTHER boxes of things.
My youngest is 24, and now an idiot. My second youngest is 26, and works for the ENEMY (DHS). FUCK, I have FIVE TOTAL (ALL complete morons). The ELDEST is now 34. In 1999, I was fighting to try to keep the kids as a 'male parent' (you KNOW what the courts decided; fucking NWO-supporting cocksuckers that they are). The bitch that whelped them is hooked on SSRI's (in case you were wondering). She was a 'reformed' dope-smoker when I met, fell in love, and fucking married her; but she returned, lika a DOG, to her own VOMIT. She blamed the CHILDREN (NOT ME) for her 'depression' (I still have her diary).
Your son might be luckier that he understands.
As far as DNA collection at birth in any hospital now, I wouldn't be at all surprised.
See the Newborn Screening Saves Lives Act of 2008. DNA is collected from every baby born in US hospitals.
What the hell is MOAR?
Opposite of Le$$
I had a short-run of shooting targets printed up (just like the DHS did, a while back). It features a Mullato man with a pen, a Star Wars character (a Wookie), and a former politician who scammed the banking system and paid off underage girls who claim that he raped them (I call this one 'Hennis Dastert'). It also features a bespectaled nerd with a nerd-pack, and a couple of wrinkled old guys who are supposedly the 'leaders of the free world'.
The HARD parts of my simulated tagets appear to be the local 'stormtroopers', which are in front of them. The TRUE ZOMBIES of the APOCALYPSE, they have class-IV body armor on, and are weaving in and out with MRAP's and using LRAD's and night-vision and calling in airstrikes.
If not NOW, WHEN?
TOO LATE!
Nice try, though. WELCOME to the occupied (former) US. WELCOME to (my) the NIGHTMARE.
Did you ever hear of an 'artist' named 'Alice Cooper'? NAW. Here's Dane Wiggington...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf6jhFothAo
The TREE OF LIBERTY was given it's ULTIMATE POISON in 1913.
Tyranny collapses from its own stupidity.
bbq: if Rome was any example of "Tyranny collapses from its own stupidity." it can take awhile, a few centuries in that example in Rome's case..don't hold your breath.
Yeah, but a perfect storm is imminent.
The same things it took to bring Rome down,
Are at exponential levels in the Western World of today.
Expect the unexpected.
That's easy the Luciferian Oligarchs are who they are working for.
What the are doing is setting precident for future puppets.
Scientific Dictatorship here we come.
Speaking of spying, I just got this email saying my NEST Thermostat was on its way. I thought it was a phishing email. I wrote to the company and they said it was legit. They said “the order was placed on your behalf from your energy provider". I never asked for it and was never informed it was available to me. They are just sending me a FREE thermostat that’s worth $250! You have to ask yourself why would they send me a $250 item I never asked for no charge. Looking at their site, it’s a little too big brother for me. It learns your routines, knows when you’re home or not, and is connected to the internet. There is no privacy anymore.
https://store.nest.com/product/thermostat/?utm_campaign=product-listing-ad&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=T200577&gclid=CjwKEAjwndqrBRC16IyeqPicp3ASJAB-vB-crWfxx_YNSy5iktVXasTBOwCzxKlkucRPXrsbJFzjDRoCmrXw_wcB
ahh the Internet of Things
Try reading Technocracy by Patrick Wood, it will make perfect sense.
He previously co-authored with Anthony Sutton about the Trilateral Commission.
http://www.augustforecast.com/
Earlier this month, Petraeus mused about the emergence of an “Internet of Things” — that is, wired devices — at a summit for In-Q-Tel, the CIA’s venture capital firm. “‘Transformational’ is an overused word, but I do believe it properly applies to these technologies,” Petraeus enthused, “particularly to their effect on clandestine tradecraft.”
All those new online devices are a treasure trove of data if you’re a “person of interest” to the spy community. Once upon a time, spies had to place a bug in your chandelier to hear your conversation. With the rise of the “smart home,” you’d be sending tagged, geolocated data that a spy agency can intercept in real time when you use the lighting app on your phone to adjust your living room’s ambiance.
“Items of interest will be located, identified, monitored, and remotely controlled through technologies such as radio-frequency identification, sensor networks, tiny embedded servers, and energy harvesters — all connected to the next-generation internet using abundant, low-cost, and high-power computing,” Petraeus said, “the latter now going to cloud computing, in many areas greater and greater supercomputing, and, ultimately, heading to quantum computing.”
http://www.wired.com/2012/03/petraeus-tv-remote/
Now you can look Forward! to an email invitation to plug the Progressive Auto Insurance Thingamjig into your car so you can SAVE!!! on your auto insurance by being a responsible, overly cautious, now stuck in traffic and being car-jacked at a traffic light driver.
Always here to help ;-)
But, but, but...
You could SELL IT on E-BAY... with your 'PayPal' account...
You know, a .308 or a .38 or a .45 puts MUCH LARGER entry and exit holes in 'free' items than a .223 or a 22LR.
For deliveries within the CONUS, forward this item to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, D.C.. or the address of the new NSA collection facility in Utah (OR, the Microsoft offices in California). As an alternate, look up the address of the facilities in Alexandria, Virginia.
For deliveries to other nations, simply look up 'intelligence facilities', subtitle 'Total Control Paradigm'. Tell them that 'Eric Clapper' sent you, for a full refund of your postage costs. Your local CIA station chief in your nation will expidite your refund, via FEDRES funding.
Thank you for your enquiries regarding our product line, For our full list of offerings, see our page 'American Import-Export Bank', and feel free to explore the POSSIBILITIES!
J...
(Mr. Janet Yellen)
"If you're not paying for the product, you are the product"
Banker's Whore
Redundant.
Should we expect something big to happen in the next 6 months in the Banana Republic?
;-)
Anthrax!!!
(Bulk collect that assholes)
It's not like they use any of the data to stop crimes anyway; which they love, because then they can claim they need more power.
It's so that they can blackmail people later on when those people become a nuisance to TPTB. That and marking political dissent for "re-education".
Pressure cooker bombs!
Everything done is about power & control my friend. Sold under the brand names of "Public Safety" and "Patriotism" which is sure to be lapped up by the illiterate and willfully ignorant.
Every despot throughout time has had some variation of this Machiavellian concept (for da Fadderland!) Hitler, Mao, Robespierre, Tamerlane...now Obama.
Hey Zio, you left out Perez, Sharon, and Netanyaho. How come?
Hey Leftard, I left out Ivan the Terrible, Papa Doc, Ceausescu, Pol Pot and Amin too.
How come?
Well I'm not sure why you left out those you mention, but I do know why you left out the Zionists. Birds of a feather flock together don't they now?
Yeah, trolls of a feather certainly do flock together.
So, you're seriously going to TRY to make your boy Obama seem irrelevant to his OWN actions against ME by bringing up joooish prime ministers?
Son, you better get some caffeine in you after you drop the crack pipe.
Calm down, boys.
ALL HAIL the MESSIAH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l46t_nrySg4
BUT, you both failed to mention Dennis Hastert! Mina, Arkansas! TWA Flight 800! Larry Silverstein! Waco! The Kissinger-brokered OPEC accords! Kennedy? The 'Moral Majority'? 'Whip Inflation NOW'? The 'Gulf Of Tonkin Incident'? The 'U.S.S. Liberty'?...
If you want to be understood, use the spelling 'DRUISH'. Ex-kikes EVERYWHERE use this spelling!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAZhtT-dUyo
Mel Brooks would be honored.
We have such a great and powerful military.
Great how they take their Constitutional oath seriously like the rest of the govt employees.
F***ing over people's kids and getting them killed for bankster wars since 1861 and possibly as early at 1812.
The liberals heros - Obola. Not that the Republicans are any different then the scum Democrats.
Well, Obama is looking to modify ITAR so that you cannot even talk about guns in the internet. I don't think the Republiscams ever thought of that one.
And the republicans will do nothing except give Bibi and Porky 500 standing ovations when they both address CON-gress in 3 minute speeches along with the Democrats.
They jump up every second to applaud like circus seals.
... Banana Republic...
It's more banana, and less republic. Those Russian students were right...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4FkLCZsDak
Republic? there are several flavours of Republic. I'll repeat here a different comment
have a look at the Turkish Republic
there, the current President hoped he would be able to have a constitution-changing super-majority in the elections, which would have allowed him to change Turkey from a Parliamentary Republic to a Presidential Republic
the Turkish electorate was against, and even the National-Conservatives to the right of President Erdogan's Conservative AKP party are against, so his plan is moot, for a while
why is this relevant? well, because in this case, President Obama is doing exactly what a President of a Presidential Republic can do, i.e. exert executive power over and beyond legislative and judicial powers
(of course, if anybody would ever ask for a Young Turk Revolution in the US, most would think about the Democrat/Progressive "Young Turks", another interesting sign of a possible political premption of any such "silly things")
ask yourself why the US puts so much power in the hands of one. ask yourself why campaigns for that post cost so much, and last years
further, ask yourself why the US Congress is the most hated institution in the US... while based on the principle of one seat only for grabs in such interestingly shaped districts
the Turkish Electorate seems to know a few things that the American Electorate seems not even to want to know, imho
Ghordius, representative republic, based on educated electorate..secret courts, secret deals, leadership segregated in secure areas, removed from contact with the common voters. all needed for empire, the immediate needs of security for the state (which is now a Super Power), overrules the legal foundation of the USA. corruption is a hall mark of the government of empires..and today we got that in spades (no not a racist remark).
I like me some women who buy at Banana Republic
"brown shirt's everywhere"
I see three of them on your post
Does it look like republic or democracy or fucking anything we seen before?
Third century Rome?
Did Rome have nuclear weapons? or any other modern things.
Jezz, you can't raise food anymore by yourself. It will end very bad
Fissionius Explosicanus gave it his best shot but succumbed to a bad batch of ocelot one night at the vomitorium.
The Romans had a horse in the Senate and we had Kerry.
good point, but i think that hey shot horse with broken leg?
Very different indeed. And very bad. May you live in interesting times ain't funny no more, not at all.
Sad times when aging men who claim honor look fondly toward the grave and privately thank their Gods that they are old and soon to leave this monstrosity to younger hands.
Coming with us? Just for the laughs and entertainment of course./s
Elysium
(keeping with the general theme)
I'll stand in line for my turn and I hate lines
I'll help!
Obama that world class cocksucker.
oh Mao god!
~"HEIL OBAMA!!!!!!"~
Now??
Can we impeach him now?
And if not now, when? And for what ? Isn't this enough?
Will anything ever be enough?
IS there no act of his that is not too henious?
I think it's called
TREASON!
Seems there is no rule of law in the US. Guess the folks in Ferguson and Baltimore were acting appropriately.
It is indicative of a society that hve developed a Pretorian Class.
There's the upper class that does no work and pays no taxes.
There's the middle class that does all the work and pays all the taxes.
And there's the lower class that's just there to scare the shit out of the middle class.
- George Carlin
I think he should go explain his actions, in front of an Idaho classroom!
Anyone who thinks that this will deter well-trained Foreign Agents or genuine newbie terrorists (with an IQ>100), is nuts.
It's the Neocon/Ziocon way of telling us who considers themselves to be in charge. These guys have the audacity of the Borg, and the confidence of using the Jedi Mind Trick: "You will obey, you will..."
Damn Zi'Borgs!
Never mix your sci-fi metaphors. Next you'll be trying to boldly split infinitives where no infinitive has been split before.
Now, that's some serious Grammar Nazism. Impressive.
The phrase "megalomaniacal, sociopathic douche bag" just doesn't do this Prez justice.
That's Grammar Ekosian for the Trek fans. Death to Zeon!
Death to Zeon.
But notice that Kirk saved Zeon from destruction by the Ekosians.
And the Zeonists were superior, and "peaceful" too, only seeking to help their inferiors on the sister planet advance.
After the killing of the Fuhrer of the Ekosians, John Gll, and his Lieutenant, Melakon. the Zeonist took over the leadership spots to guide these "poor misguided unfortunates".
The episodes' name is, "Patterns of Force" released in the Second Season of the Original Series.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterns_of_Force_(Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series)
You can watch it, remastered, here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjdiWOw3VT0
It is propaganda after all.
Kirk, Spock and Chekhov are Jewish not to mention Roddenberry. This makes for a bit of unintended humor when Kirk and the gang discover that the sun worshipers on Planet Rome actually worship the Son of God. Uhura makes the connection and Kirk seems quite pleased. Even Spock responds with a raised eyebrow. There's something not quite kosher about it.
I think your radar needs recalibrating on Roddenberry's actual religion, notwithstanding his programmed take on history to date:
However, he said that he dismissed all organized religions saying that, for the most part, they acted like a "substitute brain... and a very malfunctioning one."[191] Roddenberry was also critical of how the public looked at certain religions, saying that when the King David Hotel bombing took place in 1946, the American public accepted it as the action of freedom fighters, whereas a car bombing by a Muslim in Beirut is considered a terrorist act. While he agreed that both parties were wrong in their use of violence, he said that the actions of both were undertaken because of their strong religious beliefs.[192]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Roddenberry#Religious_views
EDIT: Plus to suggest that because the remaining principals have a certain religion means they have editorial control?...bit of a stretch... that's why trying to capture the source of the NWO is so difficult ...because they use religion so effectively to shadow box, distract and control...all religions. Criminals are as criminals do....regardless of what religion they claim to represent.
EDIT 2: SuperIrony Category: The Star Trek episode cited in the thread has a plot reveal that culminates in an explanation that the Nazi Fascist state on that planet was an aberrant by-product of the industrial efficiencies grafted onto their citizens by the Earthling cultural advisor based on the historical experience of Earth and Germany in the 1930’s (translation: the financial bloom of non-fiat state controlled labour certificates by Germany at that time...an anathema to the NWO Counterfeit Central Banks of the USA and GB). And in the episode the victims were the Zeons (c.f. Zionists) conflating Zionists with Jews when Jews become the victims of Fascism then and now as the human shields for the Zionist Orcs that profiteer and plot but ultimately march blindly to the orders of NWO Bankers that seek the Global profits of death, destruction and hatred at every turn.
Did I mention it was ironic...or should I have said twisted? Definitely an ironic grain of truth and distortion in there for sure...perhaps the lesson is beware of human nature and the evil that lurks in unchecked power.
Thanks for the correction on Roddenberry's religion but otherwise you're reading way too much into a bit of harmless (and perhaps ineffective) humor (That's why we take it on the road before playing the big town). I did not say that the actors had editoral control or imply that they are agents of the New World Order.
My biggest problem with the Bread and Circuses episode is its reliance on the worst kind of faux O. Henry suprise ending. The Son of God revelation simply can't carry the weight of all the B-grade material that takes us up to that point. It's strange that Kirk and especially Spock seem impressed that Christianity has spread throughout the galaxy as Star Trek TOS never mentions Christianity on 23rd century Earth or anywhere in Star Fleet. One would think that Kirk and Spock would find Christianity to be a quaint but pointless subject at best. The ham handed ending seems just that much more out of kilter when we remember that the actors delivering these campy lines about the Son of God are in fact Jewish. And having grown up watching Shecky Green and David Brenner how could I resist delivering a punch line which included the phrase "it isn't kosher?"
That's the problem with the implications of generalization...it can become such a schtick. Nice to see you mix it up here on the boards.
Oh...and wrt to Sun worship there is this eyebrowraisingworthy consideration
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/codex_magica/codex_magic...
Cheers
Kirk dude you got your brain too close to the dilythium crystals man. Obama a "neocon"???? Really?? In what kinda alternate progressive assclown reality is obama considered a "neocon"???
Fucking progressives are in charge. Dude. If ya gotta put "neo" if front of something then "neo-stalinist" would be about right in describing obama's progressive criminal regime.
Neo-cons are assclowns like Dick Cheney and Bill Crystal. And they are NOT in charge.
But you already know that.
Grimaldus
Nuland is a neo-con and Obama's letting her run wild to the detriment of Kerry. Strange bedfellows.
Umm, hate to break it to ya but obama does not nominate neocons to assistant secretary of state positions.
Nuland is an arch criminal progressive, just like Hillary Clinton.
You are working rather hard to deflect blame from your murdering criminal progressive heros. Too bad it is not working.
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2013/05/obama-nominates-nuland-for-as...
"Obama nominates Nuland for assistant secretary of state"Grimaldus
Go take your medication.
"You are working rather hard to deflect blame from your murdering criminal progressive heros. Too bad it is not working."
The last time I voted it was for Ron Paul. When was the last time you took your meds?
Nuland’s husband is Robert Kagan, an American neocon historian and foreign-policy commentator at the Brookings Institution.
Guess what genius, neocons follow the progressive method of tyranny.
And you voted obama, so embrace your progressive suck. Be a proud drone assclown progressive. No need to lie about it.
Dont forget, the progressive stupid, it burns.
Grimaldus
Your psychic powers have grown weak along with your reading comprehension. I didn't vote for Obama.
I read the wikipedia definition a while back, and I read it again in response to your post. I has been completely re-written and is now a joke, so by the definition, Obama is not a Neocon.
From the urban dictionary
Neoconservative. Criminally insane spenders that believe in killing brown people for the new world order. Huge Orwellian government, unfathomable amounts of spending, bomb tens of thousands of people to death to rearrange the globe. Take the worst aspects of the liberal and conservative positions and combine them into one and you would have a NeoCon.
This is a bit hardboiled but is a real definition, without including undying support for the state of Israel..... Hey I acknowledge they had to leave something out to get past the sensors.
Neo cons are twisted left. As in leaning progressive. So, by your urban dicktionary, a progressive is far worse than a neo-con. True, in fact. Thank you for pointing that out.
Grimaldus
Neocons are latter day Trotskyites. How ya like that, Snowball?
Nailed it. They're still butthurt from that ice pick in the head in Mexico. But...but...but...the territories!
You might be right about that. A different flavor of progressive tyranny.
Grimaldus
"We're all Neocons now."
- Richard Millhouse Nixon
C'mon Grimaldus, that's Bill Kristol on the neo-con side. I'm pretty sure Billy Crystal is funnier.
My bad!!
Grimaldus
Obama, McCain and the NeoCons and NeoLibs are owned by Soros and the other z-oligarchs. The NeoLibs include Schumer, Feinstein, Boxer, Waxman, and a bunch more.
They all jump up and down in Con-Gress when Bib or Porky Porshenk aka Sholomo Waldman give speeches in from on Con-Gress. They stand up and applaud after every sentence. Totally pathetic.
They are all owned.
NEIN!
Nein und a half. And that's my final offer.
I wonder what judge judy thinks of this? Or for that matter any of our other jooish legal scholars.
I like Judge Judy. She's all business and I love her veracity test: "If it doesn't make sense then it isn't true." Use that yardstick against any government program or pronouncement and see what you get.
STFU before I pound your face into the soil.
"I could push your face in some dough and make gorilla cookies!" -- Fred G. Sanford
Star Courts (secret) are specifically forbidden in the Constitution. What part of this does the AG, Supreme (laughter) court, and the 'Murikan people don't understand?
Influence on the U.S. ConstitutionThe historical abuses of the Star Chamber are considered a primary motivating force behind the protections against compelled self-incrimination embodied in the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution.[16] The meaning of "compelled testimony" under the Fifth Amendment – i.e., the conditions under which a defendant is allowed to "plead the Fifth" to avoid self-incrimination – is thus often interpreted via reference to the inquisitorial methods of the Star Chamber.[17]
As the U.S. Supreme Court described it, "the Star Chamber has, for centuries, symbolized disregard of basic individual rights. The Star Chamber not merely allowed, but required, defendants to have counsel. The defendant's answer to an indictment was not accepted unless it was signed by counsel. When counsel refused to sign the answer, for whatever reason, the defendant was considered to have confessed." Faretta v. California, 422 U.S. 806, 821–22 (1975).
There are no patriots in the Capital Police, Secret Service, or Presidential Marine Detail.
Right, but some are delusional enough to think they are.
Some? More like all.
They think they are protecting America by protecting the criminals that have hijacked power and are running it into the ground.
Then again former military men, for the most part, aren't the smartest bunch of people..indoctrination really fucks up a persons brain.
Tungsten:
Protecting has nothing to do with it. It is a play for power.
More importanly, any sheriff in any state!
or Presidential Marine Detail.
Bullshit and fuck you and the low-info cretins that supported your comment!
They're just following orders. As will those in the military who turn their weapons upon the American people. Mark my words!
They're just following orders.
Of course, that cretin equated military honor to a coup and that's idiotic. George Washington disagrees too.
As to your second part, I don't think I'd disagree, but that <possible> future act does not dishonor people now. Lets just agree that I'm much closer than MOST to Marines that have done that detail and cretin is barking up the wrong tree...
I come from a long line of military service. While his Marine detail doesn't believe they're allowed to disobey their orders. Their first and foremost oath was to the Constitution of the United States. To defend the country against all enemies foreign and domestic. Sometimes courage is standing up for what you've sworn to defend, even if that means breaking ranks.
While we may not agree. I respect your right to disagree on the matter.
Please note the specific order of the oath of service:
Each person enlisting in an armed force shall take the following oath:
"I, (state name of enlistee), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
Pickleton - I agree and by the way Semper Fi!
Maybe he meant Obama's Secret Service Detail ,,, there must be someone who takes their oath of office seriously enough to arrest this worthless prick.
I agree with Colonel Klink ,, the Marine Detail needs to slap him in handcuffs and fly his skinny ass to a military prison the next time he boards Marine 1. THAT would be keeping their oath.
I'm pretty sure the Secret Service (the SS) doesn't take the same oath as the military. Their allegiance I'm sure is to the prezidolt first and foremost. I'm sure they'd intervene if any military member tried to do anything. Plust I doubt any of those Marines actually have any live rounds. Even the honor guard at the TOTUS (tomb of the unknowns) can't carry live ammo. They can be trusted to give their lives, but not carry live ammo.
http://communitytable.com/300248/viannguyen/former-agent-busts-5-common-...
I guess we know where you work, on Obola's tool!
I'm not in favor of secret courts -- FISA or otherwise -- but the 5th Amendment doesn't specifically bar them. While the protection against self-incrimination might be a hedge against such secret courts, FISA doesn't deal with confessions at all.
That being said, secret courts are total antithetical to a free society.
FISA doesn't deal with confessions at all.
So when you're confessing via phone conversation (to be used against you at a time of the govt's choosing) that was taped under illegal FISA Court order, there's no question about confessions?
Is FISA more lenient than Father O'Malley? He makes you say a ton of Hail Marys.
The 4th Amendment bars the issuing of warrants unless the specific person is named and upon a finding of probable cause...which would apply
http://warisacrime.org/content/secret-court-it-constitutional
http://blogs.reuters.com/alison-frankel/2013/07/08/do-surveillance-court...
https://www.creators.com/opinion/judge-napolitano/is-the-fisa-court-cons...
https://www.aclu.org/why-fisa-amendments-act-unconstitutional
If anyone was paying attention the American Constitution was suspended on 9/11/2001 when Dick (pus-brain) Cheney delared "Continuity of Government" to be in effect. This state has been re declared every six months since 9/11/2001 to this present day . COG suspends the Constitution in whole or part, and like the TPP, the public is not informed which parts. This allows for executive rule, suspending congress and other things of a democratic nature, and so this is what you get....."which side are you on boy... which side are you on?"
'This blog summarizes the numerous episodes of genocide committed by Britain in its perfidious and ongoing ambition to maintain its imperialist grip on the indigenous world. For too long the world has been duped by the treacherous and viperous anglosphere which eagerly points their blood-stained finger at demonized foreign (i.e. non-white) individuals and groups to conceal their own massive, unsurpassed and unpunished crimes against humanity.'
http://worldsworstmassmurderer.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/britain-worlds-wo...
as long as we think its allright if they spy on others but not on us, the game will go on, anyhow.
They sure don't seem to appreciate it when the Eye of Osiris is turned back upon them to wit the confiscation of videos recorded on personal phones ....
They deserve Rockwell in their dreams!...or at the very least playing non-stop during their incarceration* at Gitmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY
*awaiting trial
There abides a thin line between the lawless and the law abiding, the oligarchs and the proles, the rulers and the ruled, the "them and the "us. If it were a string it would be as faint as an baby hair, a line that the oligarchs never see, but to the average man looks like a corded rope. History proves over and over that The Line abides through much travail, through trampled human rights and spilled innocent blood at the hands of the state, temperance prevails until the line snaps under the years of stress and the sound reverberates through the land like a clarion call and in a moment of time like a massive structural failure those once civil, ruled and herded turn. The king becomes the prey, his court is scattered to the four corners of the earth and out of chaos...... order.
Like this
https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=youtube+nicholi+chechescu&ei=UTF-8...
Yet no one will fire a shot. No Operation Valkyrie. Most Americans will not ever be aware of this. Most of those who do will not care. The little who do care, won't do anything.
Mover along. Nothing to see here in the ashes of America.
Jumbotron, I believe that is more of a dare or a wish than a belief on your part.
It is a metaphysical and quantum physical reality that not......one....damn....thing will be done in the halls of power nor the population.
You're belief otherwise is not required. Truth does not require your belief.
Shrugging has been popular for a long time.
As Confucius was passing by the side of the T‘ae mountain, there was a woman weeping and wailing by a grave. Confucius bent forward in his carriage, and after listening to her for some time, sent Tsze-loo to ask the cause of her grief. “You weep, as if you had experienced sorrow upon sorrow,” said Tsze-loo. The woman replied, “It is so. My husband’s father was killed here by a tiger, and my husband also; and now my son has met the same fate.” Confucius asked her why she did not remove from the place, and on her answering, “There is here no oppressive government,” he turned to his disciples, and said, “My children, remember this. Oppressive government is fiercer than a tiger.”
Maybe it will choke to death on a giant hair ball resulting from a constant self adoring licking of itself.
Just remember that we'll have to pass the hairball to see what's in it.
um, I guess you are not a student of history or visual aids.
yah-not keeping track of all those congresscritters illicit liasons -might lose control over them and wind up impeached before the end of the year!!!
NAZI did followed the Law of the Land. There was no secret courts in Nazi Germany.
The Soviet Union did have secret courts but it was irrelevant since the system did not give a shit about any Laws. This is were Obama and his handlers are taking this country to.
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