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The Sick Man Of Asia - China's Looming Health Disaster

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Submitted by Charles Hugh-Smith of OfTwoMinds blog,

That the China Story is going to implode is already baked into the public health catastrophe that will unfold with a vengeance in the coming decade. 

The financial pundits gushing over "The China Story" - that the Middle Kingdom's industrialization is a permanent boon to the global economy and China's poor - never calculate the human cost of that runaway industrialization and the vast inequalities it has unleashed.
 
The human cost is staggering: at least half the population is suffering from chronic lifestyle/environmental-related illnesses and 225 million suffer from mental disorders. For context, the population of China is estimated to be 1.39 billion, roughly 4.4 times the U.S. population of 317 million, and about 20% of the total global population.
 
 
Here are some estimates of China's public health problems: (source links below)
 
-- Half the population is estimated to be prediabetic (suffering from metabolic syndrome/diabesity).
 
-- 12% of the populace now has diabetes, roughly 115 million people.
 
-- An estimated 70% of China's diabetics are undiagnosed; only 25% are receiving any treatment and of the 25%, the disease is only being controlled in 40% of those getting treatment.
 
-- Noncommunicable diseases--cardiovascular disease, chronic respiratory diseases and cancer, account for 85% of total deaths in China today -- much higher than the global average of 60%.
 
-- Mental disorders rose by more than 50 percent between 2003 and 2008. An estimated 17.5% of the population (225 million) suffers from some form of mental problem, one of the highest rates in the world.
 
-- More than 300 million people in China -- roughly equivalent to the entire U.S. population of 317 million -- smoke tobacco.
 
-- 200 million workers are directly exposed to occupational hazards.
 
-- Informal estimates suggest a large percentage of the urban population suffers from lung/pulmonary diseases. Over the last 30 years, deaths ascribed to lung cancer have risen by a factor of five in China.
 
-- 160 million Chinese adults have hypertension (high blood pressure).
 
-- In 2006, 80 percent of China’s health budget was spent on just 8.5 million government officials.
 
-- Tthe rate of health-care coverage is high, but the level of benefits is still very low. 836 million rural residents who were officially covered by the government's plan still had to pay the lion’s share of their medical bills. The government coverage paid a mere 8.6% of rural residents' total healthcare expenditures.
 
Sources:
 
Reliable statistics are hard to come by for a number of reasons. Authorities in China avoid quantifying China's public health realities because it detracts from the glowing "China Story" they promote.
 
The rural population (still 55% of the total populace) often has little access to health care and statistics are sketchy.
Preconditions that lead to disease (for example, prediabetes and early-stage COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease) are not accurately monitored.
 
The standard Western proponent of the China Story spends a few days in a fancy Shanghai hotel and then repeats glowing (and dodgy) economic statistics, as if that's the whole story. Western pundits don't visit rural village stripped of working-age adults, where grandparents are struggling to raise the children who resent their factory-worker parents' absence.
 
Proponents don't spend time with those on the bottom of the urban "growth story," the millions living in makeshift hovels who receive no state aid due to their status as "illegal residents" in urban zones.
 
The mental health issues arising from dislocated families, uprooted workers and grinding poverty in the midst of a society dominated by an Elite that drives super-sports cars and owns lavish homes in the West are ignored by the mainstream Western media.
 
The rapid ageing of the Chinese populace is exacerbating an already immense public health crisis. It's estimated that by 2040 there will be more people with Alzheimer’s disease in China than in all the developed countries combined.
 
Ill health and chronic disease are undercutting the economic growth everyone is focusing on. Whatever the metric used--hours of labor lost to illness, years of labor lost to early retirement due to ill-health, etc.--the costs of China's environmental damage, disrupted social order and low investment in public health are weighing heavily on output.
 
The rise in health-related costs going forward will not be linear but geometric.Linear increases in pollution, diabesity, etc. can yield a ten-fold increase in diseases that require costly treatments.
 
Every nation, developed and developing alike, has public health challenges. What's different about China (and India) is the scale is just so enormous: 740 million Chinese are regularly exposed to second-hand smoke, for example, and ten of millions of urban dwellers are exposed to air pollution that is said to rival smoking three packs of cigarettes a day in its negative impact on pulmonary health.
 
It's all well and good to toss around grandiose plans for new Silk Roads, aircraft carriers and islands constructed in disputed seas, but where is the money and labor going to come from when the health problems of hundreds of millions of workers and retirees come due and payable? How many more trillions of yuan can local governments borrow once the credit bubble in China deflates, as all financial bubbles eventually do?
 
Apologists and cheerleaders will naturally claim these estimates are exaggerated, and that China is aggressively tackling its immense environmental and public-health problems. The Chinese excel at the Soviet model of showcase trials and projects staged for propaganda, and officials regularly present Potemkin-Village pollution clean-ups. But if you try to come back a year later and check on the progress, you will find it isn't possible--and insisting might get you arrested.
 
What's being exaggerated is China's response to the unfolding environmental and public health catastrophe. The Chinese government's priorities are tightening control of its domestic society and extending hegemony in the South China Sea. Public health receives lip service and a marginal slice of state funding and focus. The money flows to care for the elites, and the peasantry gets next to nothing.
 
That the China Story is going to implode is already baked into the public health catastrophe that will unfold with a vengeance in the coming decade.
 

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Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:22 | 6180887 ted41776
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more giant sunrise diplays will fix all your health problems. and stronger suicide nets too

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:28 | 6180901 LetThemEatRand
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There will be no exponential rise in healthcare costs in China.  People will simply die young unless they are rich or connected.  It's fucking China, a third-world country pretending to be a first-world country because it has a few billionaires.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:39 | 6180931 notallangreenspan
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Gee, that sounds like the United States. Oh wait,  we already are a third-world country. 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:55 | 6180948 LetThemEatRand
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That's the model that is being sold here.  And a whole lot of ZH'rs are egging it on.  It's only a matter of time before we hear someone on this site say that suicide nets in factory dorms are the result of the FSA.  Fuckers want free nets.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 21:55 | 6181124 wee-weed up
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What health disaster?

Every Chinese who dies lessens the burden on the corrupt govt.

The govt loves this!

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 22:08 | 6181152 Thirtyseven
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2nd world, not too unlike Romania or, say, Algeria or South Africa.

Getting there though. Lowering the bar every day.  I don't think we'll quite hit Uzbekistan or Bangladeshi levels, but Honduras status is definitely obtainable.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:53 | 6180968 Antifaschistische
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well...I'm actually a China fan, and I hope their people work through many of their problems in the coming decade.

But...we can be darn sure, their health care system won't do the completely moronic things we do today.....walk in an Emergency room with some unknown problem in China and they will NOT do a CAT Scan, they will NOT bill you $14,000 for about one hour of "care" like my mother received not to long ago.

Sure...China would spend about $14 until they knew what was wrong with you, so acting as if China will have a problem like we have is overblown.   They WILL have health problems....it doesn't mean they will have a financial healthcare disaster.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 22:09 | 6181154 Miffed Microbio...
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Have to agree with you. My eldest was in Shanghai for a year. She passed out on the subway, banged her head and was taken to a hospital by her friend from a wealthy family. She told me she was embarrassed that she was rushed right in to see a Dr, passing up many who had been waiting for a long time, obviously more injured than she. Wealth has privilege there as in the USA. I can't see the Chinese government spending any excessive money on the poor.

Because this health " crisis" appears to be relatively recent, I suppose we will be blamed exporting our western diet to others. I guess McDonald's is a new form of bioterrorism.

Miffed

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 04:38 | 6181475 Dubaibanker
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Hi Miffed,

Love your comments.

But have to disagree on the spending aspect of China.

Just between 2006 and 2011, the entire complex of health care spending from total spending to pharma or even domestic Chinese medicine doubled in dollar terms. Here is data from Nov 2012 from McKinsey: http://www.mckinsey.com/insights/health_systems_and_services/health_care...

China is spending over 5.4% of its GDP and in absolute terms USD 500bn plus (as of 2013) on health care. This according to Deloitte. http://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/global/Documents/Life-Scie...

2018 is expected to be above USD 800 billion at compund growth rate of 11.8% pa!

Finally, McKinsey has projected and Forbes published in Nov 2014 that China will surpass annual health care spending upto USD 1 trillion by 2020 (as compared India with the same population of 1.25 billion plus will spend just USD 3 billion approx in 2015 and last year spent USD 4 billion). Here is Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jackperkowski/2014/11/12/health-care-a-trill...

China's spending is lower than that of the US but that's because China has 5 times more population and until a decade ago, China's spending was far lower than it is today however their catch up speed is phenomenal.

No wonder the healthcare stocks worldwide keep rising!

As far as the title of this post and the author, they don't know what they are talking about....

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 07:41 | 6181785 Apostate2
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The stats cited in this post are fairly close to the reality, as far as the reliability of Chinese stats may be accepted.

Healthcare spending is indeed up but there is much cognitive dissonance. An example would be that the anti-smoking campaign is rather doomed to failure given that all the tobacco companies are SOEs. Fox guarding the hen-house and so on. What your sources do not break down is where and how that infusion of cash is spent. The highest number of civil unrest (sometimes quite bloody) incidents occur against hospitals and medical personnel. This is also a response to the poster below.

Tue, 06/16/2015 - 18:52 | 6203637 BigJim
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Smoking kills people early, meaning they don't draw pensions.

If the cigarettes are taxed at the right level, smoking = economic gains for government, because people die off just around the time they would have stopped being productive anyway (ie, around retirement)

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 13:43 | 6183130 Miffed Microbio...
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Dear dubaibanker,

I believe you are right if these stats are reflective of reality. Who knows in these dark times. However, to approach the per capita spending on healthcare as we do in this country would, I believe, be prohibitive for China even with their economic growth. Not that such levels have resulted in a healthy population in our society and we are just throwing money down the proverbial rat hole. It is tragic to me I am a part of this farce. Healthcare will become more and more restrictive.

Healthcare costs will rise. I watch our costs go up daily and the government has not stopped the ridiculous onslaught of regulations which will not bode well for the future. Games for reimbursements get tougher. A sick game of cat and mouse and people's lives are caught in the middle. I suppose this is simply the nature of everything today.

Thanks for the links.

Miffed;-)

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 13:50 | 6183157 Max Steel
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+1 

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 07:25 | 6181753 Apostate2
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The 'health crisis' is not new, just never perceived as a 'crisis'. It was the norm. With the reinvention of the 19th c industrial revolution wheel (the playbook says you need industrial proles led by the vanguard--i.e. the CPC to overthrow the bourgeoisie to usher in the socialist paradise), environmental considerations were the unintended (or acceptable) intended consequences.

Having money to buy better health services is conjoined with access to political pull or time-honoured guanxi. 

Before you go off on McDonald's, Asians have their own home-grown junk processed food and in China food adulteration is a massive problem.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:38 | 6182109 Max Steel
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Yeah except western nation all other countrirs are third world . I DON'T FATHOM WHY PEOPLE CARRY SUCH A ANOTION .

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:30 | 6180904 NihilistZero
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You mean centrally planned "capitalisim" really doesn't work???

I disagree with a lot of his world view but this quote has always spoken to me:

Capitalisim is a system of profit and loss, and the loss is JUST as important as the profit. - Milton Friedman

The correction always comes, sooner or later.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:32 | 6180911 Dindu Nuffins
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Well, you go out to a village and you see a lot of middle-aged women with large bald spots on their heads. Either that's chemicals or Chinese genetics are shit.

One reason that Chinese save is for healthcare. The other is for their son's marriage expenses and house. Can;t get to consumption-based nirvana without guaranteeing basic healthcare, so keep swinging those hammers and breathing that smog. Industrial production as a share of GDP has only one way from here... up, up, and up!

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:34 | 6180917 williambanzai7
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Have you ever been to China?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:49 | 6180957 nmewn
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Charles reads stats and extrapolates stats, did you know I was technically pre-diabetic this very morning after two cups of coffee with cream (audible gasp) and refined cane sugar (same people running now with their hair on fire, with scissors).

I had to atone for this to my fellow man with a small lunch of yellow rice and leftover chicken.

With gobs of salt, cuz thats the way I like it ;-)

(Aaaaaagggghhhhhh I'm gonna get sick and be a burden on "society"...lol.)

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 22:31 | 6181208 Miffed Microbio...
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You know, once I was at risk for hunger. I was driving to Las Vegas for a convention and realized I should have eaten breakfast. Had to listen to my stomach grumble the last two hours. Damn near pee'd myself it was so scary. ( well, I did have a couple of gallons of water in the trunk so I ain't too stupid).

But I have to disagree on one point. Coffee is meant to be enjoyed strong, rich and black. Cream and sugar is just.....oh I can't say it. ;-)

Miffed;-)

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 07:07 | 6181733 Apostate2
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I thought you were in the medical field. Your stomach grumbles are just your body's way of cleaning out the leftovers to ready it for the next meal.:)

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:49 | 6180958 Dindu Nuffins
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Who? I live there. Lots of people look unhealthy, sure.

Another common thing to see is the various cripples missing bodyparts that beg on the street after accidents in mines or steel factories. However, a few such victims can kinda almost understand English, like Max Steel, so the Chinese .gov put those poor bastards on the internet-posting staff to keep them off the street. It's a living, I suppose!

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:31 | 6182344 Max Steel
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Well healthcare problem is common in developing nations where they lack hi-tech medical operations and research . If you think there is a crisis in China just think of other asian nations having poor economy like Cambodia , Myanmar , Philipinnes , Indonesia etc . They must be exploding by now due to healthcare fiasco let alone africa nations and middle east. Begging is a common problem in Asia China is not alone facing this issue even in India begging is rampant and they run rackets there .

Ah! so  newbie amateur troll is calling out  others for trolling, funny  . I've seen many ignorant , highly misinofmred , stuid circle jerks like you . I was informing and educating you on the other thread regarding China economy and instead of acknowledging the facts you kept on regurgiating the propaganda . Well nothing new though geniuses like you think  reading all the propaganda releases by the American government and its captive press and you believe you know something.  . You seem to be very emotionally invested in something that you don't know.

Its clear that you have nothing substantial to prove your made up hollow claims about collapsing chinese economy meme and that leaves you with nothing except discrediting others . That's what trolls do . You are  too busy regurgitating 1956 Cold War propaganda, and didn't get the memo. 
You got nothing remotely clever or intelligent to contribute.So what I will do is watch as you slowly recede into the moron troll sunset.I don't give a shit about circle jerks like you . keep peddling your propaganda ..

Oh! so dindu basement hugger is residing in China now ? lol . Must be truth because nuffins said so . 

 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:51 | 6180964 LetThemEatRand
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Love your stuff, but that's a cop out.  Have you ever been to Iraq?  Do you have an opinion about it anyway based upon what you've read?  I understand that China has pockets of great wealth, but it has very major problems and I'm glad I was not born there on some farm.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:57 | 6180978 suteibu
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"I'm glad I was not born there on some farm."

I like your stuff sometimes but you are the one that copped out on this.  If you were born on a farm in China, your opinions that you express here would be totally different.  In fact, you might be very happy with your life there, you just don't know.  You can not judge other people's feeling about life based on your own experience.  There are liable to be plenty of Chinese who would hate your life.  So be it.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 21:01 | 6180992 LetThemEatRand
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Fair enough that there are plenty of poor farmers who enjoy their lives.  But I tend to think that the farmers who go to work for FoxConn and similar did so for a reason.  America had its industrial revolution as well, complete with child labor, insanely dangerous conditions for workers, and no right of legal recourse for workers.  Sadly, we're moving back in that direction, trying to meet China in the middle.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 21:13 | 6181027 suteibu
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"But I tend to think that the farmers who go to work for FoxConn and similar did so for a reason."

Not to belabor the point, but those people probably had the same motivation that drove early Americans to head to California or settle the Great Plains.  Thousands of Chinese and Japanese were motivated to come to America for the same reason.  I do not know (and neither do you), but I would think the risks they took were somewhat greater than Foxconn employees, despite how bad those conditions might be.  America's early textile industry (and many others) were not much different than the Chinese are experiencing today.  They will survive it as a people and move on, just as Americans did.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 21:13 | 6181033 LetThemEatRand
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And not to belabor my point, but the difference is that China already has a communist dictatorship government that works hand-in-hand with billionaires to be sure that workers never get any rights.  It took the US a couple of hundred years to get one of those.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 21:18 | 6181042 suteibu
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So the evil robber-barons were kind employers who paid living wages, offered working conditions that were safe, and provided excellent healthcare to all employees?  Not to mention, of course, the slave owners - both in the South and the industrial North (BTW, the Chinese I know are free to change jobs according to their abilities and some do with frightening regularity).

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 21:44 | 6181099 nmewn
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In LTER's world the government is always there to protect the worker, not to collude with the boss against the worker.

You'll never get past that roadblock of the mind...but good luck with it.

Forward! secretive TPP legislation, for the People!!! ;-)

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 00:21 | 6181397 NihilistZero
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Thought you might like this poster I bought:

V for Vendetta - See The Truth

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 06:52 | 6181709 nmewn
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Pretty cool, it would look even better with the stars and bars tho ;-)

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 13:27 | 6183066 NihilistZero
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It does have the stars and bars.  V is just refusing to be blinded by them :-)

Bought it and framed it.  Damn good piece of political art...

I bought this poster from the same guy.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 22:21 | 6181182 LetThemEatRand
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Totally false dichotomy my friend.  The robber barons of early American history had little to no government interference, and they fucked the workers.  The Chinese government is in bed with the robber barons, and they are together fucking the workers.  America for a short period of time had a reasonably effective elected government of the people who kept the robber barons in check, and the middle class thrived for that short period of time.  And America became the envy of the world, and a world power as a result of that brief period.  It's nto going to last much longer.  The robber barons are back, and they mean to take control again.  

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 22:41 | 6181227 suteibu
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Are you honestly arguing that the wealthy industrialists of the 19th and early 20th century did not own the government in similar fashion to now?  Do you think our freedoms have only now been lost under Obama? 

Smedley Butler claimed all of the wars he fought were for the bankers and industrialists.  Did the military act outside the authority of the Presidents and Congresses to do the bidding of the wealthy then?  Did the bankers create the Fed without the President and the Congress?  You say the robber barons are back, I contend they never left, they just don't seem to care whether the curtain is pulled back or not.

You can't be naive about America's history leading up to now yet claim to know what Chinese farmers are thinking at the same time...because communism.  Please.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 23:21 | 6181313 LetThemEatRand
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I think we actually agree with the root problem (oligarchs/wealthy industrialists).  It was a different dynamic in the 1800's than now in that there was not a powerful federal government, but the ultimate problem then as now is that a powerful elite control most of society.   It is worse now because we have a powerful federal government controlled by oligarchs.  Incidentally, I don't think Obama has anything to do with it.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 23:36 | 6181343 suteibu
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Well, of course Obama has plenty to do with it.  He sits in the office, he knows what's going on and he obviously agrees with it.  He sure as hell ain't doing anything about it.

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I want to leave one more point about the Chinese.  It is not for Americans to dictate to another country, another culture, how they evolve.  Mao put China in a state of suspended animation for two generations.  He kept the Chinese at arms length from the West.  Some may look on this as a good thing in the long term since the Western cultures have fallen into decline. 

Some want to blame China for this decline but the Chinese did not come to the West and hold a gun to the heads of the governments and CEOs and force them to do business in China.  Blame the government and CEOs as it was not China's responsibility to prevent Western decline.  In the same regard, it is not our responsibility - nor any of our business - to fashion China (or any nation) into an image of how we would prefer them.  One would think that all of our democracy building since WWII would teach us all that lesson.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 02:12 | 6181357 NihilistZero
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Americans elected progressives in the early 20th century to write the wrongs of the industrial revolution.  Yet as soon as they did those same industrialists colluded with politicians to create the FED and set about their mission of destroying Americans purchasing power, and even worse their freedom with the income tax.  Given a choice I'd rather have the Robber Baron era.  There was at least some competition and without the government enabled monopolies Edison's electricity was able to beat out Rockefeller's oil in the energy industry.  But now business interests are beyond entrenched, and they have become that way through the backing of a powerful federal government.

Though optimism isn't my strongest trait, I believe we aren't destined for dystopia.  Imagine if those who picketed Carnegie's steel plants back in the day had the benefit of unbiased internet coverage?  There is a whole generation who laughs at the idea of getting their news from the networks, FOX or CNN.  That number is going to continue to swell.  They know something is gravely wrong.  All the kids in Guy Fawkes masks.  The German cutie who made Draghi piss his pants.  The classical liberal/libertarian minded of today have a much better chance than the '60s kids.  They're more engaged to the economic raping of their generation, and ultimately it's ALL economics.  Beyond that seeing your teenage friend get a gun pulled on her by the cops would radicalize just about anybody. I'm sincerely hopeful that in their rush to use technology to control the populace that the tech outpaced them and it has now backfired.  A lot more people know what's going on than they used to.  Hopefully it makes the difference...

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 05:36 | 6181625 Ghordius
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LetThemEatRand: "The robber barons of early American history had little to no government interference, and they fucked the workers.  The Chinese government is in bed with the robber barons, and they are together fucking the workers.  America for a short period of time had a reasonably effective elected government of the people who kept the robber barons in check, and the middle class thrived for that short period of time."

perhaps you should revisit the history of the American "Robber Barons".

Then, you would find out that State Legislatures (that were more powerful then today) were much more important for their schemes, and that they often had extremely cosy arrangements with them. In some cases, they lobbyied State Legislatures to nominate them to Senators, in others they were part of the State governments, and even signed themselves laws in favour of their schemes, particularly in the case of railroads. Up to the anectodal and less lucrative case of one Robber Baron lobbying for a quick law that would allow him to divorce from his wife on the grounds of mental illness, a law that was afterwards quickly rescinded. A personal law has a name: privilege, from private and lex = private law

In fact, corruption was commonly seen as so widespread that the Progressives had a "solution" for it in 1913 that appealed many, and looked as if it would help: the 17th Amendment

the US Robber Barons of old were Crony Capitalists, their business models were based on corruption. That's why they were called Robber Barons in the first place, and because of their quasi-monopolies (then called trusts), which American "Austrian School"/Mises Club proponents usually see as based on pure cronysm and only as a result government intervention for the "Captains of Industry"

And no middle class thrived in that age, America had to wait for the 1950's for that phenomenon to surface, toghether with the Great US Corporation business model, Freddy Mac, Fanny Mae and so on

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 02:16 | 6181552 Dr. Bonzo
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You're missing the point. 150 years ago... we didn't know any better. China should have known better but the near 1850s industrial revolution-like conditions and gross exploitation of dirt cheap labor were not just by-products of its rapid rise, but very deliberately planned.

So please spare us your rationalizations.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 00:49 | 6181435 Anusocracy
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"complete with child labor, insanely dangerous conditions for workers, and no right of legal recourse for workers."

Just some typical bullshit from you by drawing a comparison between two totally different periods in time. The people involved made choices based on situations totally absent from your silly mind. YOU WEREN'T THERE.

And your socialism only works after capitalism has created enough wealth and progress and then only until it squanders all of that. As Maggie said, it runs out of other people's money.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 03:47 | 6181603 Lin S
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"...trying to meet China in the middle."

Precisely. Can't have a One World government without harmonization.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 02:12 | 6181548 Dr. Bonzo
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Ooooooooh, that explains why they're all trying to buy houses in my city and send their kids to my university and make sure their kiddikens have my country's passport.

 

Just sayin.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 21:00 | 6180989 nmewn
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Well, to be fair, I think the life expectancy in Iraq is just a tad lower than China's and amputees a little more prevalent.

Sayin ;-)

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 22:55 | 6185116 roddy6667
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I don't think any of the people who write these China-bashing articles have been to China. Where do they get off being 7000 miles away on the other side of the planet and pretending they know the facts? I live in China, and every day I read outrageously false drivel written by Westerners who obviously have never spent a minute in country. I don't know if they are merely trashy Yellow Journalists trying to make a buck getting clicks from trailer park residents, or if they have larger agendas. Do they write these articles to benefit a government agenda?

Thu, 06/11/2015 - 09:35 | 6186028 Max Steel
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exactly and some retards over here like dindu nuffins think we are cpc trolls . btw can you tell me the difference btwn chinese healthcare system and american healthcare . I heard european healthcare is best .

Fri, 06/12/2015 - 23:25 | 6192412 roddy6667
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Chinese healthcare is far behind Western counterparts. However, the life expectancy is rising every year. The residents of the huge, polluted big cities live longer than Americans. One thing that is deceptive about this article is they medical spending numbers. A US dollar spent in China buys about 5X as much as in America. In healthcare, it buys much more. I got blood tests, a chest x-ray, examination, 5 days of IV antibiotic therapy for about $42. It is cheaper to pay cash in China than it is to use insurance in America. The deductible is almost more than just paying cash. I go to a large hospital that is affiliated with a medical school. They perform heart and liver translpants there, and their doctors have been trained all over the world.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 11:07 | 6193149 Max Steel
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thanx

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:40 | 6180920 JustObserving
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Half the population is estimated to be prediabetic

That is 695 million people.  

About 80 million Americans are prediabetic.

Learn how to eliminate your risk of diabetes, add years to your life, and know your healthcare savings:

http://diabetesrisk.net/


Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:47 | 6180952 suteibu
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Prediabetes, a made up condition used to drive up healthcare costs.  The solution, fuck the governments food triangle, cut out sugars and bread, eat a balanced diet of meats and vegetables, get off your ass and do some moderate exercise a couple of times a week.  Problem solved without feeding the healthcare/Big Pharma machine.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 21:30 | 6181066 thamnosma
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I could not agree more with your post. 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:37 | 6180924 q99x2
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225 million suffer from mental disorder.

Bummer. I never liked mental disorders.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:37 | 6180927 suteibu
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What is this, Bash China Week? 

And on healthcare?

Damn, it's stunning that humanity survived and evolved without 21st century healthcare.  Perhaps we should look at the declining health of the society to understand the declining health of the people.  Maybe China should ban KFC, Taco Bell, and McDonald's and then reassess their health problems.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:40 | 6180933 reader2010
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modernization always paid for by tremendous human cost, from white peons,  black slaves to Gulag inmates. 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:40 | 6180936 nmewn
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Maybe the government needs to force the people into ObaMaoCare, Charles. Perhaps have a Chinese version of Pajamas Boy.

That'll fix it ;-)

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 23:02 | 6181272 joego1
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I pay the equivalent of two average Chinese salaries every month for my Obamacare bill $1017- How long can this go on?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:44 | 6180941 teslaberry
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charles. in your effort to be prolific and gain attention and a bigger audience, you dilute the quality of your content like water added to wine. 

 

better analogy, you are like a shitty ass tech blog. stop writing so much and avoid putting out total crap like this

 

the chinese and their government are not concerened with their health all too much, wy should we?

americans are none to healthy either. eesh

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 03:32 | 6181596 Lin S
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+1000

You said it better than I ever could.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:59 | 6180984 oddjob
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Surely the benefits of chemtrails could help them.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 21:01 | 6180990 Normalcy Bias
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In a gesture of kindness and brotherhood, I would like to offer China Barack Obama.

Please take him and he will perform MIRACLES 'fixing' your health care system, just as he's done for the US!

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 21:03 | 6181002 suteibu
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Why do you hate the Chinese?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 21:06 | 6181007 ISEEIT
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If being delusional...defined as 'consistently not perceiving reality in a manner consistent with provable points of empirical evidence' is fairly assigned as a measure of diagnosis for "mental disorder" then sanity is extremely rare indeed.

 

In fact from the perspective of a central planner....the more 'mental' the prisoners/citizens the easier it is to 'manage' them.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 21:05 | 6181012 zerofever
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That will be our export.  Heathcare, food and guns.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 21:26 | 6181058 cynicalskeptic
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Declining helath is simply a simple means of population control for China (and a eugenic way to weed out a proportionately larger portion of the poorer, less educacted, 'weaker' members of the population.   Cuts down on the total population and reduces the need for govenment spending.

Keep in mind that Communict China ended its opium addiction problem overnight - they shot all the addicts.  That's a bit TOO blatant these days...... China is not going to spend a fortune dealing with all the health issues in its population.  Those that can afford treatment will pay out of pocket.  The rest will die earlier than they might have died under better circumstances.

Hewre in the US we pay for liver transplants fo alcoholics and knee replacements for people weighing 400lbs who won't ever do the therapy needed.  Addicts and alcoholics collect disability payments and get whatever care gov can provide - to the point where they're used to defraud the system by doctors and clinics 'treating ' them for maladies they DON'T have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 21:45 | 6181098 SgtShaftoe
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This is one data set that none of the elite seem to understand. If you want to increase a population and their fertility, you put them under severe stress (insufficient food, resources, etc.) If you want to decimate a population, you make them comfortable and wealthy.

Just look at the macro data. What countries have the highest birthrates, and which have the lowest? It is a natural law of nature. It applies to all animal and plant systems. It's designed in, if you will.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 21:54 | 6181120 Faeriedust
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This is what the Industrial Revolution has always looked like.  How quickly we forget.  And no, it's not pretty.  The only thing uglier is the mass bouts of starvation that tend to precede it, motivating the switch to a new, different, and far from universally pleasant alternative.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 22:03 | 6181139 sam site
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At least the chinese understand their illnesses are related to the toxins in their air and water and Chinese medicine has a long history of emphasizing detoxification and supporting the immune system.  The chinese don't seem to have rulers that are poisoning them like we in the West have.

At least they are way ahead of American's in understanding the cause of their diseases.  American's still believe in Allopathic Monopoly Quack Medicine that blames natures cleanup crew (germs) for disease and the fallacy of helping or training the immune system with injected poisons and food laced with toxic GMO Roundup that causes cancer.

While the chinese were f*ck'd over by 33rd degree Freemason Mao Zedong who implored them to overpopulate under orders from the European Black Nobility that led to the fouling of their environment.  They're still a lot better off than the deluded sheeple of the West that don't have a clue about what is causing their maladies. 

At least the chinese have been rejecting vaccines, GMOs and particularly fluoridated water.  No less than 22 chinese  studies have shown fluoride causes low IQ in children including a recent Harvard study, but the brain dead sheeple are still asleep at the switch and allow our hidden rulers to continue poisoning and handicapping us.

While they have a lot of challenges from their polluted environment, at least they use genuine natural medicine that we drove out in the 1920s in favor of Rockefeller's Allopathic quacks that are still poisoning their patients.  The sheeple still believe it's the only "proven and scientific" medicine.  Traditional chinese medicine is going in the right direction while our's is going in the wrong direction.

 

Quotes from Eric Jon Phelp's book Vatican Assassins on how Mao screwed over and betrayed the chinese as a Black Nobility Masonic agent.

"Then in 1949 the Order, using their British, American and
Russian Empires, installed its Chinese Grand Inquisitor, Mao Zedong.

To deceive
the anti-communist West, Mao OPENLY expelled the Jesuits in 1949! He in turn, in
the name of “communism,” murdered fifty million of his own people.

The Black Pope’s High-Level, Socialist-Communist Freemasons:
Chinese Oriental Mass-Murderer Mao Zedong (1893 –1976)

 

With the Black Pope’s American Council on Foreign Relations and British Royal Institute of International Affairs enthroning the murderous Chairman Mao in 1949 via the its Central Intelligence Agency and British Secret Intelligence Service

I read about the forty to eighty million Chinese who were
butchered after our [Francis Cardinal Spellman’s CFRcontrolled] State
Department [via the CIA] brought Chairman Mao to power

This merciless dictator, whose favorite pastime
according to his wife was raping young Chinese virgins, murdered at least fifty
million “heretic” and “liberal” Buddhist Chinese, including those who read the
Bible or advocated popular liberty. 

He, as the head of the Jesuit Inquisition in the
Far East, would also be responsible for the murder of millions in Thibet, Korea,
Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia in conjunction with American B-52
bombers!

Nixon on one side and Mao on the other crushing the Buddhists of the
Far East! It is for this reason the Chairman said to President Nixon during the
latter’s visit to Peking, “You are as evil as I am.”

 

In 1949 Mainland China was betrayed into the hands of Mao Zedong by none other than Cardinal Spellman! His CFR-ruled State Department embargoed Chiang so that he could not buy weapons anywhere in the world.

Meanwhile, Stalin aided Mao, giving munitions provided by FDR’s Lend-Lease giveaway!

When Chiang finally received a US shipment of arms, too little too late, there were no
bolts in the rifles! Mao assumed absolute power and with a clever ruse of war

OPENLY EXPELLED the Jesuits in 1949-50, fueling the Company’s anti-communist crusade in the West as its Grand Inquisitor “extirpated” all Chinese “heretics and liberals.” Spellman knew however, that his secret Jesuit masters were the rulers of both the Soviets and Red Chinese—even as they are today!

the betrayer of the Chinese people into the hands of Rome’s Inquisitor, Mao Zedong; a “jet setter” and member of Yale’s “Skull & Bones” fraternity; a proponent of fascism"

 

 

 

 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 23:29 | 6181331 Bazza McKenzie
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I just want to get the details straight here.  Are you certain Mao was a "33rd degree Freemason" and not maybe a "34th degree" one or even a "35th degree".  They all have different powers.  God alone knows what would have happened if he was a 47th degree Freemason.  That would have put us somewhere past Ghostbusters territory.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 05:44 | 6181660 Balanced Integer
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Nutcase. Chew on your ginseng a little harder next time.

Mao the Freemason. ROFL!

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 22:59 | 6181262 mijev
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"Over the last 30 years, deaths ascribed to lung cancer have risen by a factor of five in China."

 

Why would the lung cancer rate increase by a factor of five when the smoking rate has remained stable or declined? I've read a few times recently that smoking gets unfairly blamed for (90% of?) cases of lung cancer that are more likely associated with exposure to radioactive particles and heavy metals. Then again, just breathing in China is probably not a healthy pastime.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 23:09 | 6181284 steveo77
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Hitler Attacks Nuclear Shills, Fukushima, WIPP a Hilarious Parody

Thanks enenews! Now this is an article at nukepro, well worth watching

http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2015/06/hitler-attacks-nuclear-shil...

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 00:57 | 6181462 Bull Bear Nice Pair
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That the China Story is going to implode is already baked into the public health catastrophe that will unfold with a vengeance in the coming decade.

 

So Chinese economy will keep growing by just dealing with health care issues.


Wed, 06/10/2015 - 01:00 | 6181466 HonestlyExpress...
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Not a very balanced piece: as someone who lives here can tell you, Yes the place is a mess in many ways - that's not news. But No people are not all miserable about it. Chinese people are much happier and more contented than you'd expect from the surface reality of things like pollution, lack of democracy, corruption, poor organization of many things, general uncleanliness, ugly cities, overcrowded tourist spots, lack of social etiquette (like queue jumping) and endless traffic etc. Despite all this people are actually quite happy I think, just by observing their general disposition.

Health wise one has to be careful whether the increased rates of diseases reflect better monitoring or actual incidence increase?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 02:07 | 6181545 Dr. Bonzo
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Good reminder. Going from mud shitting hole to squat toilet is 100% improvement for some.

 

SMH.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 01:37 | 6181516 JoJoJo
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70 percent of Japanese men (and majority of women) smoke  cigarettes but they still live to an average of over 80 years of age

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 01:41 | 6181520 JoJoJo
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Correction- Japanese men smoking down to 36% 

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 02:06 | 6181544 Dr. Bonzo
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Good. Hopefully black lung hits some of these wu mao shitbirds posting here on ZH.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 05:26 | 6181657 squid
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Hey Charles:

 

Your whole piece is predicated on a single assumption....

That the Chiense goernment gives a shit.

 

They don't and even if they did, they are not deluded enough to belive they could ever do anything about it.

 

Squid

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 05:47 | 6181662 Balanced Integer
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Fuck China in the face anyway.

They took our jerbs. 

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 06:40 | 6181692 strangewalk
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I lived in China for over 10 years and got sick a couple of times there, as I also have in the US. In China, basic care is much better, faster and more affordable for almost everyone than it is here, at least in tier 1 and 2 cities. For highly specialized treatment, the US system is better, but only for those who have very good coverage. On the downside, both systems are death-dealing and living in either place will kill you--guaranteed. In the US it's mostly due to the poisoned, processed food, and in China because of the severely degraded environment.  

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 06:42 | 6181695 Atlas Crapped
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Sounds like an excellent opportunity for the multi-national corporate "healthcare" complex to rape and pillage any vestige of emerging middle class sino-wealth. The template is already available for implementation. It's called Obamacare.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 06:43 | 6181698 22winmag
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China: world heavyweight champ of citizens shitting on the side of the road.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:57 | 6182209 Yakhont
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What a retarded rant. The 317 million Americans are already exposed to cancer and god knows what other frankenstein diseases by GMOs. When does this self righteous idiot think THAT catastrophe will explode?   

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:00 | 6182223 Dixie Flatline
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What a retarded rant.

Self referential?

Thu, 06/11/2015 - 07:17 | 6185708 lisacolnett
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Before the development of prescription drugs, treatments and preventions came from home remedies passed down from generations of ancestors. The trouble with those remedies was that there was no way of knowing whether they were safe until they were tested. The Osha root is an herb that has been around for many years, having stood the test of time. Also called bear root, Osha is an herb from the parsley family, mainly used for medical and spiritual purposes.

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