NYPD Can't Hire African Americans Because "So Many Of Them Have Spent Time In Jail," Commissioner Says

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“The people in this building are just as upset over that piss as you are.”

That’s what 22-year NYPD veteran Eric Adams told a rookie cop when the two entered an elevator in a New York public housing project. The puddle of urine in the corner prompted the new recruit to offer the following appraisal: “these people are all animals; they don’t deserve anything.”

Adams — who was a captain by the time he retired five years ago to pursue a career in politics — is African American and says police too often stereotype entire communities based on the offenses committed by a “numerical minority.” One might be inclined to view minorities' disproportionate share of lethal police shootings involving unarmed suspects as evidence of this dynamic.

Some suggest that hiring more African American police officers would help to ameliorate the situation. 

The problem, according to NYPD commissioner William Bratton, is simple: too many African Americans have spent time in prison. The Guardian has more:

What an officer does, in essence, can make or break community trust – and even keep black applicants away from the NYPD. Even as the NYPD is more diverse over all than it’s ever been, in late June the police academy will graduate one of its smallest percentage of black males since the 1960s..

 

While increasing numbers of Hispanics and Asians, especially men, are joining the NYPD, the future looks bleaker for black applicants. One number in particular is jarring: black males make up only 6.86% of the 2015 police academy recruit class that will graduate this month, with black females just under 4%, for a total of 10.86%, while black residents total about 22% of the city’s population.

 

For comparison, black recruits totaled 7.3 % in 1970 at the end of the Civil Rights Movement, almost all of whom were men.

 

Commissioner William Bratton is blunt about probable causes. “We have a significant population gap among African American males because so many of them have spent time in jail and, as such, we can’t hire them,” he said in a 20 May interview. Because many black men have been convicted of a felony, they are automatically disqualified.

The irony, of course, is that one reason so many African Americans have spent time in jail and thus cannot become police officers is poor policing. 

A complicating factor is what Bratton calls the “unfortunate consequences” of an explosion in “stop, question and frisk” stops in the last decade that caught many young men of color in a summons net.

 

Those summonses are not automatic disqualifications. However, after passing the exam, a candidate moves to the more subjective background investigation, which includes criminal records. A pot arrest without indications of gang activity might not disqualify a candidate, but a series of summonses could. As a result, Bratton is concerned that the “population pool is much smaller than it might ordinarily have been”.

 

Bratton is often blamed for New York’s stop-and-frisk era – 4.4m stops; 92% non-white from 2002 until 2012. The controversial policy was struck down in 2013 by a federal judge, who called the practice blatant racial profiling.

Trevena Garel, a retired African American NYPD veteran of 21 years whose father was an NYPD detective, is not optimistic about the future for relations between police and African American communities. In fact, she tells her own son that if he is ever pulled over he should immediately place his hands on the steering wheel, refuse to say anything, and ask for an attorney. Here's her rationale:

“I may piss off my law-enforcement colleagues, but I want to keep my son alive. That’s something that, unfortunately, I have to do, and my white counterparts don’t have to do. That’s what America’s ugly history has taught.”

Needless to say, that rather grim assessment does not bode well for the future of race relations in America.

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Dazman's picture

If only we could get more Banker Wankers locked up.

Publicus's picture

That's discrimination. All are created equal. 100% of the police should have spent time in jail to know what it's like.

So Close's picture

That's ok..  We are getting ready to throw a few more white cops in jail....

The Juggernaut's picture

FDA and a drug dealer on the street corner... whats the difference? No difference! If anything the dealer on the street would have to answer for bad drugs.  FDA have yet to have someone come for them. Legalize drugs to at least give the people, who are willing to do something, a chance to make their lives better.

 

USA is one of the few countries that jail people who hurt themselves or do what pharm companies/FDA do... Sell drugs (drugs are in non-organic foods too).

ACP's picture

The only thing that pissed me off about this story is that the black NYPD officer retired after only 21 years.

How about putting an end to that shit first?

Bumpo's picture

It's all Whitey's fault

J S Bach's picture

Why aren't there any quotas for black banksters?  So many having spent time in jail makes them perfect candidates for the banking profession.

Then we'd hear Banksta Rap songs.

lordylord's picture

NYPD Can't Hire African Americans Because "So Many Of Them Have Spent Time In Jail," Commissioner Says

Police too often stereotype entire communities based on the offenses committed by a “numerical minority.”

These statements are at odds.  Wonder which one is more accurate?

Dr. Richard Head's picture

I wouldn't want to be a cop at all.  They have lost my trust as you cna see with this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oTWMXfb_QY

SWRichmond's picture

It would never occur to the prison industrial complex that there are too many things which are illegal.

The value of any form of government can be measured by the number of aspects of private life which are outside the reach of the voter.

whotookmyalias's picture

Is this like a poll tax or voter ID?  Institutionalized discrimination, I tell ya.  What's next, you have to actually get good grades to graduate and have qualifications to be hired for a job? Wait until Obozo gets his "common sense" regulations implemented, then we'll be able to continue the march towards income and social equality for all.  

chumbawamba's picture

I could never qualify to be a cop.  Sadly, my IQ isn't low enough.

I am Chumbawamba.

TBT or not TBT's picture

That information right there knocks a standard deviation off of the likelihood that chumba resembles Trayvon. 

COSMOS's picture

"If only we could get more Banker Wankers locked up."

But then where would all the Khazars be able to work?

Billy the Poet's picture

"It's all Whitey's fault"

 

In the following case, yes, as both the cops and their victims are white. They'll find a way to stereotype you before they beat you.

 

Man sues police for excessive force after Taser incident at home

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWzP0LULBj0

tmosley's picture

Reality is so racist.  We should all ignore it!

Billy the Poet's picture

But you've never been acquainted with reality.

The Juggernaut's picture

Doesn't NYPD make criminals, anyway?

Billy the Poet's picture

Criminals, cannibals, you name it.

Four chan's picture

the average black iq is 70, they have elevated testosterone levels, they commit violent crimes at the same ratio of male crimes to women or 8:1 black crimes to white.

Billy the Poet's picture

What's your IQ? Mine is 138.

SilverFish's picture

Son, that 3 digit number won't even buy you a cup of coffee anymore. I'm not even talking about the good stuff. I'm talking about the piss water swill they serve at the convenience store on the midnight shift that's been sitting there since noon. Buys you about as much as a good credit score these days.

Billy the Poet's picture

Could you state your point more succinctly? I enjoyed the ride but I'm not sure where we ended up.

SilverFish's picture

It didn't really mean anything. Maybe my critique of shitty convenience store coffee, but that's about it.

 

 

It was all about the ride.

seminal1's picture
seminal1 (not verified) Billy the Poet Jun 10, 2015 11:56 PM

"What's your IQ? Mine is 138."

Gawd, what an insufferable asshole.

Intelligence is like a river: the deeper it is, the less noise it makes. -- Annonymous

The difference between a smart man and a wise man is that a smart man knows what to say, a wise man knows whether or not to say it. -- Frank M. Garafola

LasVegasDave's picture

"If only we could get more Banker Wankers locked up."

But then where would all the Khazars be able to work?

 

Khazars can work any job, and excel at any job.  Which is why you envy and hate them.

Billy the Poet's picture

No, it's their stated goal of forcing goyim to work for them and give up their organs for transplant.

 

Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.

Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. That is why gentiles were created.

Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, Jerusalem Post, October 10, 2010.

 

 

If every simple cell in a Jewish body entails divinity, is a part of God, then every strand of DNA is a part of God. Therefore, something is special about Jewish DNA.

If a Jew needs a liver, can you take the liver of an innocent non-Jew passing by to save him? The Torah would probably permit that. Jewish life has an infinite value. There is something infinitely more holy and unique about Jewish life than non-Jewish life.

 

Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg, Jewish Week, april 26, 1996

Four chan's picture

religion, it's always been the problem.

seminal1's picture
seminal1 (not verified) Billy the Poet Jun 10, 2015 11:40 PM

When the Poet fag feels like a failure and loses an argument, he always blames them. 

tmosley's picture

"Undermining everyone outside of your tribe is the same as everyone in your tribe having superior characteristics."

No.

Triggernometry's picture

The FDA obviously offers better pay than a street dealer.

sdmjake's picture

"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws"  -Tacitus

funthea's picture

If the cops wish to keep saying that there are only a few bad apples in their bunch. perhaps they could start to disove the thin blue line and begin outing these bad apples. Because from where I stand, the bad behavior tends to be more the norm rather than the exeption.

General Decline's picture

Sterotypes exist because they are largely accurate.

bwh1214's picture

Oh no, did he just make a simple observation based on the NYPDs policies.

Racist!!!

Fun Facts's picture

Very difficult to tell the criminals from the police these days.

TBT or not TBT's picture

According to the agitprop that passes for news, and cryptocommunist obama DOJ appointees and their flaks, yes it is.  

RafterManFMJ's picture

Police are even less accurate and display even fewer qualms about opening fire for the slightest imagined provocation.

Police call for backup and will have 20 officers on a "scene" quicker than flies on fresh cow pie.

A large percentage of police are on steroids than common criminals.

The police rob you with fines, tickets and then with taxes; even when they're not robbing you, they're robbing you. Non-state sanctioned gangbangers are unable to mount such a persuasive, ongoing robbery campaign.

Police are festooned with more weapons and armor than a Navy Seal, yet are frightened by old women, chained dogs, an unfunded pensions. Criminals are usually unarmored and lightly armed, if at all.

There's an imposed upper limit to a cop's IQ; regular criminals, not so much.

Shoot a cop's dog as it tries to tear your throat out - that's a big no no and you'll do time. Shoot a criminal's dog as he attacks you, no big deal.

I could go on, but this should give you a rudimentary way of figuring out which flavor of criminal you're dealing with - state sanctioned or otherwise.

Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

Fact: Cops are NOT legally liable for their errant rounds.  Citizens ARE legally and criminally liable for rounds that miss.  Who do you think is gonna fire more and miss more, given this risk/reward?

Dont forget, cop shoots somebody, it's PAID VACATION CITY.  Citizen shoots somebody?  Time for the 2nd mortgage to pay the lawyer.  Not to metion pink slip, if you are working for the man.

DOES ANYONE SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS SYSTEM?

Bob's picture

How many decades of patently unconstitutional "stop and frisk" abuse of people "of color" without any hope of legal representation did it take for these thin blue line cocksuckers to be able to say "gee, we wish we could hire them, but they've just plain been in jail too much." 

Oldwood's picture

I would be curious to know what the statistical difference in black arrests were between say 1955 and 2015. How much of police violence has been a response to minority violence versus how much minority violence has been a response to police violence OR civil rights activists and liberal media that instantly highlight any action that could be seen a racist in even the slightest way?

As a white man living in a predominantly black suburb and having a wife who has served on a city board, I can tell you that there is virtually NO conflict that is not couched in claimed racism. While this is bad enough in that many times the real issue is missed completely, it fosters animosity in many minorities who have been indoctrinated with the belief that they were being oppressed as the ONLY reason why they had not achieved all that they dreamed possible. How could ANY police department maintain any set of laws fairly with this kind of predisposition. We are living in a world where everyone is carrying a chip on their shoulder, being constantly reminded of their NEED to do so, to retain every sense of injustice from birth, as justification for THEIR demands for JUSTICE.

Does anyone even really know what justice is anymore?

Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

Another poster on this thread linked this:

According to it:

When whites commit violent crime, 3% of their victims are black.

In contrast blacks commit more violent crime against whites than they do other blacks.

Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa (this I found astounding, given the politization of 'hate crime'.

Of the ~770,000 violent inter-racial crimes involving blacks and whites, niggers commit 85%.

Blacks are an estimated 39  times more likely to commit a violent crime againsta white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.

 

Now repeat after me, “Diversity is our greatest strength”

 



RafterManFMJ's picture

Really want your mind blown? Look up the black on white vs. white on black rape statistics.  There's a war on, friends, whether you're willing to admit it or not

Billy the Poet's picture

"Sterotypes exist because they are largely accurate."

 

So the stereotype of the racist white male who hates black men because their penises are larger is true in your experience. My condolences to your libido.

AchtungAffen's picture

lil dingy cracker hates bid dingaling blacks and loves guns. Freud would have a field day.

Billy the Poet's picture

To paraphrase Freud, sometimes a gun is just a gun.

whotookmyalias's picture

They drink Thunderbird but their penises are regular sized.

Oldwood's picture

I don't think I hate anyone, but what I sincerely dislike is anyone who thinks I owe them something, and also feels they have the right to take it. I'm just a little resistant to that.

Billy the Poet's picture

Right there with you, buddy. And most of the folks who rip me off are white like the former and present governors of PA, for example.